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Speaker 1: with a lot and I repeat a lot going on

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Speaker 1: Brooks like, I like Edgie Brooks, but getting mad at

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Speaker 1: how do we avoid it? And that's We're obviously gonna

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Speaker 1: go low pod uh Sunday night after the US Open

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Speaker 1: personal instagram. So we got a lot of a lot

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Speaker 1: over so far are really really old. Right feels fifty

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Speaker 1: one years old feels a big draw. I'm sorry, Like

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Speaker 1: Phil hasn't been that great the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Putting him at PGA Tour events, even if it's just

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Speaker 1: five or six of the biggest ones of the year

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Speaker 1: minus the majors, is a big deal. People like to

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Speaker 1: see him. There's a reason if you turn on wrestlemany

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Speaker 1: and the Rock shows up, that matters. He's the most

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Speaker 1: famous guy not named Tiger on the PGA Tour. Like

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Speaker 1: you want him around. You don't want to lose him,

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Speaker 1: And like I said with Bryson, like you don't want

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Speaker 1: to lose villains. Part of what sucks about Brady and

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Speaker 1: Belichick breaking up is like they were the best villain

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Speaker 1: in league history. It didn't get any better because most

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Speaker 1: people hated them. But you know what they did. They

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Speaker 1: had a motion. I had a wise person tell me

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Speaker 1: a long time ago. If you're gonna talk for a living,

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Speaker 1: you want to be two things. You want to be loved,

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Speaker 1: you want to be hated. You never want to be

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Speaker 1: indifferent because the moment you're indifferent, they don't listen to you.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever watch Howard Stern in Private Parts when

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Speaker 1: uh Paul Giobani freaks out because power D ratings are

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Speaker 1: so high, and he goes, how do people like this guy?

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Speaker 1: And the person handing the ratings is like ore polling,

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Speaker 1: not even necessarily the people like him. They just can't

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Speaker 1: wait to hear what he says next. It's no different

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Speaker 1: with golf. Your biggest stars like who's playing, Who's playing who?

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Speaker 1: It's why Aaron Rodgers. People have opinions on the guys.

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Speaker 1: Same with Tom Brady, same with Bill Belichick. That's what

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Speaker 1: you want. And right now, this fragmented tour is sad

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Speaker 1: and speaking of it like the best part of out

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Speaker 1: is the actual golf, and this is the US Open,

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Speaker 1: the toughest test of the year where sometimes it's not inconceivable,

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Speaker 1: and sobel as he'll tell me a little bit later,

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Speaker 1: like you never truly know what the winning score is

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Speaker 1: gonna be, but it's not inconceivable, but this winning score.

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Speaker 1: He had a caddie tell him that they would take

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Speaker 1: even right now in the clubhouse on Sunday afternoon. Like

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Speaker 1: this separates the men from the boys. Who's playing the best.

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Speaker 1: Who can drive at the straightest, who can hit these

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Speaker 1: small greens, who's great around the green because the rough

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Speaker 1: is outrageous. Who has a great short game, who can

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Speaker 1: handle the pressure. These crowds are gonna be nuts. It's

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Speaker 1: in Boston, They're playing in the NBA Finals. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be hot. The booze is gonna be flowing. I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: But let's face it, the black cloud, like ultimately Live

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Speaker 1: is a huge part of this because who's to say

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Speaker 1: that some of the Lived guys won't be in the mix.

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Speaker 1: It's all kind of intertwined now, which I would say

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Speaker 1: for Greg Norman is a good thing. He might be

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Speaker 1: an egomaniac. A lot of people think he's a d bag,

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Speaker 1: but what he's doing because he has these backers with

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Speaker 1: just cash that is never gonna run out, might work.

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Speaker 1: And uh, I mean, I barely even talked about the

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Speaker 1: US Open. And that's just the reality of where we

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Speaker 1: are right now with the sport, which again, as someone

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Speaker 1: just I want to give some of my bets before

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Speaker 1: we get into Sobel. I broke it up into several parts. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I have a Lock of the Week, which I placed,

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Speaker 1: one of the biggest golf bets I've ever placed. Usually

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Speaker 1: I put twenty to a hundred dollars either like I

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Speaker 1: took a bunch of first round leaders because you can

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Speaker 1: Took guys like Web, Daniel Berger, Justin Rose. I think

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Speaker 1: Bryson is somewhat undervalued right now. I know he's been injured,

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Speaker 1: and I know he hasn't been playing and other SADI stuff.

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Speaker 1: But here's a reality with Bryson. He won this tournament

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Speaker 1: win this tournament. And Keegan Bradley, who I also like,

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Speaker 1: those are just I dabbled a little on the first

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Speaker 1: I have a hundred dollar bet on him that it

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Speaker 1: lot of people think that just translate to this course.

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Speaker 1: again everyone's gonna be off the scent elite short game.

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Speaker 1: So if he's hitting the ball straight off the tea,

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Speaker 1: is no longer hitting that. If his short game is on,

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Speaker 1: he can compete to win this tournament. And when you

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Speaker 1: can get a guy way down the board with win equity,

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Speaker 1: I can't get off him. I wouldn't say this is

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Speaker 1: great ball striker who's got some mojo coming in. Tommy

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Speaker 1: Fleetwood to top five, but my lock and the biggest

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Speaker 1: bet I ever made. I put a thousand dollars golf bet.

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Speaker 1: and he did. He ended up winning the tournament. I

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Speaker 1: I don't feel that. I mean, this tournament is gonna

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Speaker 1: be really hard. It's very difficult to just you gotta

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Speaker 1: spread your money around. But I think that Justin Thomas

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Speaker 1: Him and Bones have this kind of You and Yang

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Speaker 1: think he could easily win the tournament, but I definitely

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Speaker 1: like him to tie. I don't like, I love him

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Speaker 1: to top ten. So that right now is my betting card.

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Speaker 1: I might I just look, Bryson is way down the board.

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Speaker 1: You can get him one ten, one, twenty to one

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Speaker 1: to win this tournament again, a guy who wanted two

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Speaker 1: Some stuff change, for sure, but that that's the type

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Speaker 1: You can get him to top ten like four or five,

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Speaker 1: six to one. Now you can argue that they don't care,

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Speaker 1: we're here with the man that started the Phil Mickelson

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Speaker 1: What is up, bro? What's going on? John? I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: peel back that curtain, by the way, from the philm

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Speaker 1: Nicholson press conference that you mentioned it. I got there

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Speaker 1: at least sixty seventy reporters stuffed into this little tent.

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Speaker 1: I mean I couldn't even like get into the tent.

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Speaker 1: of my producers here at uh here at Serious X

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Speaker 1: the picture was just the back of like sixty five

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Speaker 1: not looking great, and so at some point I just

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Speaker 1: little closer, and a bunch of us kind of raised

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Speaker 1: our hands and said we had questions, and uh, they

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Speaker 1: turned around and the moderator basically handed the microphones of

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Speaker 1: me and I wasn't expecting to get the first one.

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Speaker 1: I got a question now, it was fine, but all

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Speaker 1: the ones after that, you know how it goes. Someone

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Speaker 1: else has a question, that's that. That would have been good,

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Speaker 1: but I got the ice broken. Well, I know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you saw kept Goo Today's edgy about

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Speaker 1: the LIFTOK, but I hate to bring the news to him.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a major story. And uh, I think

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Speaker 1: we need to start with Phil yesterday. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: you've been around the guy for a couple of decades now.

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Speaker 1: And my takeaway Sobil was for one of the most

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Speaker 1: candid you know, golfers, athletes or whatever. I consider Phil

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Speaker 1: an athlete, one of the most candid individuals in sports

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Speaker 1: for decades, felt like a different human being, which is understandable.

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Speaker 1: He's in a tough spot, but I felt like Phil,

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Speaker 1: the guy for for a long time, you've been around him,

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Speaker 1: what what was your take just watching him get peppered

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Speaker 1: with questions? Yeah, I know Phil is getting crushed for

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Speaker 1: what he said. Um, look, I didn't expect anything different.

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Speaker 1: Isn't this kind of what we knew was going to happen.

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Speaker 1: That Okay, Phil's gonna face the firing squad, but he's

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Speaker 1: not gonna fire back. He's not gonna make too many admissions.

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Speaker 1: He did say at one point, Look, this is a

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Speaker 1: of know that. I've had a lot of people say, look,

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Speaker 1: just say you're going there for the money. Just say

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Speaker 1: I'd be better with that. And I suggested that, Hey,

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Speaker 1: about the Saudi Arabian government? What do you think about

638
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: ties to this? What do you think about being a

639
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: partner with them? And Phil goes, man, I don't care.

640
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm getting paid. That does not sound better. That does

641
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: not make him look better in your eyes, even if

642
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: you think you want to hear him say that he's

643
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: just doing it for the money, If you say you're

644
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: just doing it for the money, it sounds way worse.

645
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: So I get it. Look, I I appreciate all the

646
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: questions from my fellow reporting brethren. I thought there are

647
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: a lot of really good ones. But I also appreciate

648
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: the situation Phil is in. Look, he's there. Now, we

649
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: have to live with it. He has to live with it.

650
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: And I didn't expect him to answer those questions really

651
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: any differently than he did. If you had given me

652
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: John a list of all the questions and said, okay,

653
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: fill in the blanks with Phil Michelson's answers, I think

654
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: I kind have got like I would agree, you're you're

655
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: on the grounds out there. What what's the buzz regarding

656
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: live from players and caddies. Everybody's talking about it. I

657
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: had one player, UH told me, before you know everyone's

658
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: talking about it's when they start whispering about it that

659
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: you know. I gotta hear what's going on here. I

660
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: canna hear what these guys are saying. When when there's

661
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: when there's whispers all of a sudden. You know that

662
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: it's more than just gossip and rumor innuendo about it.

663
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: I had another player just tell me a little while ago.

664
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: He said, what a player says he's not going to live,

665
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: he might be going. What a player says he might

666
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: be going to live, he's definitely going. So there's gonna

667
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: be a lot more defectors after this week. I think

668
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna see a lot of bigger games moving over there. Look,

669
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: they've got to fill up forty eight spots in the field.

670
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: They have unlimited funds. You and I've been talking about

671
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: this here on the podcast for a while, and they

672
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: just don't care. You know, this is a game. I think,

673
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: to the people that are running live golf thing, you know,

674
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: what's the number for us to get some and so

675
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: all right, let's all from that number and make him

676
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: make that decision. And that's essentially what they're doing right now.

677
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: It's gonna fracture the game of golf. It's certainly hurting

678
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: the p G A tour. But this is the part

679
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: where we're at right now. And and look, I mean

680
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: I love with Justin Thomas said earlier this week where said, look,

681
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it but I can understand it, but

682
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: I also can't understand it. But I sort of can,

683
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: but then I can't, and I go back and forth

684
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: on this whole thing. I felt the same way this

685
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: entire time, John, because I'm sitting there saying, now, you

686
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: can't take the money. It's you know, it's coming from

687
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: the Saudi Arabian government. They have a terrible human rights record.

688
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: It's just not right. But boy, it's a lot of money,

689
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: and everybody has a price, and at some point you've

690
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: got to set up your family, your children, your children's

691
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: children's children for generations to come. And you can do

692
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 1: that by by just taking the offer. And yet it

693
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: feels wrong, and yet it kind of feels it's sort

694
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: of as another tour player said to me, He's like,

695
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 1: you feel really stupid if you would take this offer,

696
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: but you almost feel dumber if you don't take the offer.

697
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: So you think it's fair to say the exodus people,

698
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: a lot of guys waited for this first event. Let

699
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: people take the firing squad for this event and then

700
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: jump after the US Open. I mean, do you think

701
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: is there a chance we get ten to fifteen guys

702
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: or is just gonna be that kind of group of

703
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: you know, there's already the Varners, the co Cracks. I mean,

704
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: Bubba is injured, but I mean in a couple more

705
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: euros fire over any buzz of like any top like whoa,

706
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: there's a name coming get ready. I've heard a pretty

707
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: big second tier type of player. Um who I think

708
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: is going over there soon. I've heard a third tier

709
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: type of player. And these are not the names that

710
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: everyone else has heard. These are other ones that are

711
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: out there. So yeah, there's there's gonna be name players

712
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: going over there, and a lot of them, a lot

713
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: of them so far in that back nine stage of

714
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: their careers. There are thirty eight to forty eight years old.

715
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: They're getting ready for that next phase in their life.

716
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: But I've heard that some young players are thinking about

717
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: it too. I mean, what a life essentially, you know,

718
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: if you're twenty three, twenty four years old, you get

719
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 1: paid nine figures and essentially, I guess for the rest

720
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 1: of your career you just go out and play fun

721
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: golf for lots of money and enjoy your life. I

722
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: guess that's it's hard to say there's something wrong with that.

723
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: It's hard to say, you know, you shouldn't do that.

724
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: You should be more competitive when these guys are getting paid,

725
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: you know, just millions and millions of dollars. I understand it.

726
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 1: At least one thing I saw Bryson say this morning

727
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: on Tuesday morning was the he was asked if he

728
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: still wanted to play in the PGA Tour, and he said,

729
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: I would love to play Memorial, I would love to

730
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: play the Arnold Palmer. And I talked to someone that

731
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: might be in the know a little bit that said,

732
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: they're very confident they're gonna win this lawsuit. And do

733
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: you think Bryson thinks because some of these guys obviously

734
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: gonna play the live events, it might expand they're only

735
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: doing eight this year. A lot of people think it's

736
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: gonna go to fifteen or whatever. But if I could

737
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: still play the Majors and riv and the Memorial and

738
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: the Arnold Palmer, whatever means a lot to me as

739
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 1: a younger player. That could be a major major blow

740
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 1: for JA and company. Right. I have spoken with people

741
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: as well in the legal field who believe that these

742
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 1: lived players will win this lawsuit. They're they're independent contractors,

743
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: and so I mean I might have sent this to

744
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: you on the pod last week or two weeks ago

745
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: or two months ago. I don't know what it was.

746
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 1: It's all kind of running together. But at one point

747
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: spoke with a friend of mine who's an attorney, said, look,

748
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: this goes beyond golf. He said, if you look at

749
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: from a perspective of you know, an Uber driver is

750
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: an employee of Uber. If an Uber driver works for

751
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: that company, they can go work for Lift as well,

752
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: and you can't keep them from working for Lift. And

753
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: if they go work for Lift, you can't say you

754
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: can't work for Uber anymore because you're not an employee

755
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: of that company. So he said, if this goes to

756
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: the courts, the ramifications are wide, sweeping, way beyond anything

757
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: we're thinking about for professional golf. So we have to

758
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: think about what precedent it would set. I do think

759
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: that these guys are fairly confident. Reading between the lines

760
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: of Phil Nicholson's press conference on Monday, I think Phil

761
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: believes that if it comes down to it, he's gonna

762
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: win a lawsuit against b J Dour and be able

763
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: to play some of these events. So is it safe

764
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 1: to say, just from being out there talking to these guys,

765
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: did Greg Norman Win, He's he's getting there. He's getting there.

766
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's not. He's not losing, right

767
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: You're not losing right now. Um you know at what cost,

768
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: of of course, and you know, and you know again

769
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: it comes down to where the money's coming from and

770
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: you know whether it's a good thing. But yes, if

771
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: Greg Norman, you know, I don't. I don't mean when

772
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: Moratt you know, from the standpoint, I mean from a

773
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: golf standpoint. It it's I think a lot of people,

774
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: including myself, bet against this maybe three or four months ago.

775
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: It is dramatically more impressive and going in the wrong

776
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: direction form for the PGA Tour than I ever would

777
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: have imagined. The original movie started twenty five years ago

778
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: and it was, hey, the big bad Shark is gonna

779
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: come and you know, try to change the PGA Tour.

780
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: In the end, the PGA Tour one and they did

781
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: their own thing and the movie ended. And now this

782
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: is the sequel, twenty five years later, and the bad guy,

783
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: the Shark is back with bigger, better uh friends of his,

784
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: trying to overtake the PGA Tour. And yes, it's working

785
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: right now. Everything they're doing is working and it's an

786
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: un believable, uh morality decision. I I hope that there

787
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: are college ethics classes which are studying this case right now,

788
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: because it's it's fascinating to me because at some point

789
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: you look at it from you know, a global perspective,

790
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: you look at it from a human perspective inside this,

791
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 1: you know, I I get where the money is coming from.

792
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: I get that this is sports washing. I get that

793
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: I shouldn't do it. Then you look at it from

794
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: the perspective of but boy, they can give me more

795
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: money than I'll ever make in my entire career on

796
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour and they just hand it to me.

797
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 1: I don't even have to work for it, and then

798
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: I can go work for even more money. Tarles Schwartz,

799
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: We've got four point seven five million dollars this past

800
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: weekend for winning a forty eight man event that no

801
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: one really seemed that into. I mean, this is ridiculous money.

802
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: At some point, where where do the lines cross, and

803
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's like having a graph where all right,

804
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: my morality is here and my financial game is here.

805
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: When do they intersect, and when do I say, Okay,

806
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: that's that's enough money. For me to drop my morals

807
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: and my ethics. And again, I hope that there are

808
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: classes out there studying this right now because it's fascinating.

809
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: Do you agree with kept Good that this putting a

810
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: black cloud over this event, which is obviously, probably beside

811
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: the Masters, the biggest event we have in America? I do,

812
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't see any way around it. Look,

813
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: there's the biggest news in the game right now. I

814
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: said it on the radio show yesterday that you know,

815
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: the U s J is absolutely hating this right now.

816
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: First of all, they're left in the lurch as far

817
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: as you know, Hey, what are you gonna do in

818
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: the future. Are you gonna let these live golfers continue

819
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: to play in the US Open if they qualify, or

820
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: are you gonna somehow try to cut them off? You know?

821
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: And and they don't have world ranking points for these

822
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: events now, so maybe they can't continue qualifying a lot

823
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: of these guys. But uh, there's a lot unknown still.

824
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: And yes, it's it's taking away from major championship. I

825
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: get that. But look, we're we've we've just been what

826
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes on the pod talking about it. We haven't

827
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: even mentioned the US open yet. Yeah, there's a reason

828
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 1: why we're talking about this. It's massive, polarizing news right now. Yeah,

829
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do. Uh. I guess before we

830
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: get into some betting, your take, I mean educated guests

831
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: on how the majors, the RNA, obviously the U s

832
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: g A, the AUGUSTA, the p g A, uh will

833
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: what their overall decision will be if these guys keep

834
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: going at the rate in which they're going. I think

835
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: at the very least, the PGA Championship, US Open and

836
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: Open Championship will still allow qualified players to compete their championship.

837
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: Essentially because of what we said earlier, the legal statutes

838
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: are gonna it's gonna be a lawsuit. It's gonna be

839
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: a legal issue if you if you say to Phil Nicholson,

840
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: who won the PGA Championship and it's qualified for all

841
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: the majors, you can't play next year. I don't see

842
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: how they can get away with that. Now. The one

843
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: that can because of the qualification process is the Masters.

844
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: Because essentially what Augusta National does they don't let players qualify.

845
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: They invite players, and they can invite whomever and whenever

846
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: they'd like to invite them. If they decide they don't

847
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: want to invite them, that's fine. Of course, there might

848
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: be people in Augusta Nationals who don't necessarily want to

849
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: see where the money is traced from their own perspectives

850
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: if they're going to criticize the players who are taking

851
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: the Saudi Arabian money as well. So there's there's so

852
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: much more in play than you and I can even

853
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: think of right now. But my guess is I don't

854
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: think any of the four block them. But the Masters

855
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: is very, very intriguing, again because I don't think they're

856
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: legal ramifications for that one, because they're invitations, not qualifications. Okay,

857
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: let's dive into the US Open the course. Give me

858
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: your thoughts. Really cool looking. Took a in around here

859
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: on Monday afternoon, and I like this place reminds me

860
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: of Mary in a little bit, and keep that in

861
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: mind as we go through some of the picks here

862
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: hosting the US Open. Back in this one. Look, it's

863
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: a typical New England style golf course, think rough, but

864
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: not as long as we've seen in recent years. Not

865
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: like you're gonna be stepping it in up to your

866
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: ankles or up to your knees. But um, but it

867
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: is thick and the ball is gonna sit down in

868
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: this rough. Some of these false fronts are fantastic. You're

869
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: gonna see some shots hit that okay, approach shot to

870
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: ten feet below the hole, that looks really good. They're

871
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: gonna have a bertie. But all of a sudden, the

872
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: ball starts trickling just a little bit and just a

873
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: little more, just a little more, and it will run

874
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: off the front of the game green. Next thing you know,

875
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: a sixty yard pitch shot back up the hill to

876
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: the exact same spot where your ball looked like it

877
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: had rested before that. And so, uh, that's gonna be

878
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: very frustrating for some of these players. But it's not

879
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: a very long course, just over seventy yards, fairly generous

880
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: fairways for US Open. We haven't seen that recently, so

881
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: I think guys, and I know people look at that

882
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: and say, oh, that's uh, that's a big edge to

883
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: the guys who spray it. I actually think it's a

884
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: bigger edge to the guys who are more accurate. Is

885
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: what we've seen in recent years. Wingfoot. It was a

886
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: great example a couple of years ago, essentially nobody was

887
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: hitting fair ways. So you'd rather be three twenty in

888
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 1: the rough than two eighty in the rough. Now, if

889
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: you've got little, you know, fairways are a little bit

890
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: wider than they usually are. These those accurate guys have

891
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: a chance of keeping it and play. And there are

892
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys who aren't necessarily big bombers that

893
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: I have near the top of my list this week,

894
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: and quite frankly, we haven't seen that in a while.

895
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: The last six champions kept gets waste, d J Woodland, Bryson,

896
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: John rom It's like the uh, it's like golf's arm

897
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 1: wrestling squad. You know. These these are all big, strong,

898
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: athletic dudes. And so I wonder if this is finally

899
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: one of the u s opens where we go back

900
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: to a you know, I don't I don't know that

901
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: we're for you to go back to the Corey Davin,

902
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: you're the gym fur here. But I don't think you

903
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: necessarily have to have to be a Brasen the shambo

904
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 1: with forearms like that to win at the scolf course.

905
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: I think Tiger mentioned this after like round one at

906
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: Augusta looked at Joey Lacavy said, there's not many. Lee

907
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: Jansen is out here anymore, and Lee Jan's another guy.

908
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: I went to the Olympic with my dad and it's

909
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: just it's a different game now. So early buzz out there,

910
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: number wise. I mean, when I hear you talking, I

911
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: kind of get the vibe. This isn't a twelve under winner.

912
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean, is this? Are we talking low low? Three

913
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: four under? Are we talking even par? What? What? What

914
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 1: you're I know it's early, and obviously the weather bakes out,

915
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,479
Speaker 1: gets hard, but what are people talking that you gotta

916
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: do to have a chance. What I've found over the years, John,

917
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: is that absolutely nobody knows, but people, even the guys

918
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: that study this, players, caddies, people that are out here,

919
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: they've been doing this, playing majors for the last twenty years,

920
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: they have no idea on a Wednesday afternoon, what scorts

921
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: gonna take to win? The conditions, change the set up.

922
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: Cha injes that said, I did hear one caddy yesterday

923
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: saying I'll think even par right now and sit in

924
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: the clubhouse for the next four or five days and

925
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: and see if I have a chance to win it.

926
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be hard, It's gonna be hard. It's

927
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: gonna be hard. Now. I I think maybe it's something

928
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: a little under par. I think it's maybe a little

929
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: bit quote unquote easier than that. But no, it's not

930
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: gonna be fifteen under. I mean it's not gonna be

931
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: you know, wow, what an easy golf course. There's not

932
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 1: sixty five every day. And you know one one way

933
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: under Red figures it's gonna be. It's gonna be tough.

934
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna be you excuse me. It's gonna be a

935
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: us open ish and look very much like what we've

936
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: seen at at this beat the past. Well, you've been

937
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: banging the table. You you wrote about this guy. I've

938
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: already put a little cash on him. Uh, you still

939
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: feel very confident as a Tuesday afternoon of our of

940
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: our man Shane Lowry. Yeah, I like him. He's my

941
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: favorite outright play on the board thirty to one. Maybe

942
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: still find him thirty five to and in some books.

943
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: And uh, look he's he's been playing his best golf

944
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: of his life this year. Twelve starts in two and

945
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: nothing worse than a thirty fifth place finish. Doesn't do

946
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: anything spectacularly, but he's solid off the day solid with

947
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: his iron, solid around the green, solid with a putter.

948
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: He's got the right mentality for this. He's contended before.

949
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: He finished second to Dustin Johnson at Oakmond back in

950
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: sen I just like his all overall game. I mean,

951
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: there are a bunch of guys in that sort of

952
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: second tier right below all the superstars in that twenty

953
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: eight to one to forty to one range that I

954
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: really like. But he's at the top of the list. Yeah.

955
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: I mean there's the Phenales, the Hovelin's, Homer's, Headecki's that

956
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: he burns Sala Taurus. I mean that feels like a

957
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 1: pretty sexy group, you know, with some pretty good numbers,

958
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: with guys with win equity. Right of that group, I

959
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: just will Slaturus. I mean, is this like him? I

960
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 1: have I have a bet on him? Is that? I mean,

961
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: this is a good spot for I really like when

962
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: it comes down to the putter. I mean, these are

963
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: gonna be the toughest greens to put that we see

964
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: all year, and Wills Alatoris confidently makes them four and

965
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: five footers like he'll need to a sorry, guys, do

966
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: that now you're good to go out? Okay, Yeah, I'll

967
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 1: pick it up. Can Wills Alators confidently makes some four

968
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: and five footers what he needs to when these green

969
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: speeds get up to, you know, as fast as they're

970
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: gonna be. I'm not completely confident, but I do like him.

971
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I've gotten I think twelve or thirteen on

972
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: my on my ranking this week, so I like him.

973
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 1: Some of the other guys in that range besides Lowry

974
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: and Slators, Fee Nowe Burger, Homer fitz Patrick's gonna get

975
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: a lot of love in the marketplace this week. Guy

976
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: won US Amateur on this golf course, plus places best

977
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 1: golf when conditions are tougher, when the winning scores close

978
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: certain relation to bar we should see that. This week.

979
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: One guy has been trending that I I don't know

980
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: if for an outright winner, but I got a top

981
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: five bet on him as Tommy Fleetwood. Uh what are

982
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: your thoughts on Fleetwood coming into this event? Don't hate it.

983
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: I don't have him that high. And it's just he

984
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: hasn't contended. He's just been consistent. He's just been good.

985
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: Nothing great, nothing terrible. I like Tommy for more of

986
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: a top twenty type of bet than the top five.

987
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: I just haven't seen you know, I need to see

988
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: him kind of get into the heat of it before

989
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: I play him. There guys that a similar number that

990
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 1: you might want to play for a top five, top ten,

991
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: I'll give you, Uh, Justin Rose, look this place I

992
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: mentioned it. It reminds me of marrying Justin Rose. Is

993
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: your winner? Back in He's coming off a sixty on

994
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: Sunday that probably cou should have would have been a

995
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: fifty seven. He had three bodies, he had three bobbies,

996
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: So obviously trending right now. I like Justin Rose, this

997
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: guy that can win this golf tournament with Simpson, another

998
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: past US Open champion. I like the guys who understand

999
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: how to play US g can grind. Yeah, yeah, they

1000
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: can grind through a web. Simpson could have a really

1001
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: nice week of then no one's talking about some JM.

1002
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: He's finished twenty one or better in his last four starts.

1003
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: He is criminally undervalued in the marketplace right now. Okay,

1004
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: let's talk about the heavy favorite. And this guy not

1005
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: only is having a fantastic season, he's talking a lot

1006
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: of ship right now to these live guys. And that's

1007
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: Rory McElroy. Who is I mean him and JT are

1008
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 1: really kind of carrying the flag for for j Uh.

1009
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 1: Thoughts on Rory coming into this major, I mean, he's

1010
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: played really well in the last two majors. He just

1011
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: one and looks fantastic. Does this feel like Rory McElroy

1012
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: or is he? I mean he's kind of feeling himself

1013
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: right now. He certainly is. He is firing on all

1014
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: cylinders on and off the golf course. He's a must

1015
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: watch when he's playing. He's a must watch when he's

1016
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: in the interview room. I mean, yeah, it's it's sort

1017
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: of feels like the convergence of all these things coming

1018
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: together be really nice for the PJ Tours se Rory win.

1019
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: I love him this week. I've got him right near

1020
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: the top of my list. Same with j T. JT

1021
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: is doing everything right. I actually took the shuttle over

1022
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: here today to the course with a couple of a

1023
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: couple of professional golfers who were working with us here

1024
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 1: at Sirius XM radio throughout the week, and they're talking

1025
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: about JT having more shots than anybody else, and it

1026
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. He said, you know, if

1027
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: he needs to hit a punch cut from seventy five yards,

1028
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 1: he's got it. If he needs in a high draw

1029
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 1: from two thirty yards, he's got that. He's got more

1030
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 1: shots that he can work than anybody else in the

1031
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: world right now, and so that's gonna serve him very

1032
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: well this week. I like both those guys a lot

1033
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: j T as a top ten bet right now on

1034
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: Vandel's plus one. That's my lock of the week. I

1035
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: I feel very, very confident about the guy coming into

1036
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: this week. I love that, and I love making bets

1037
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: like that. I know some people listener like I want

1038
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: the lottery ticket. I want to hit it big. Look,

1039
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: use those bets to bankroll the rest of what you're doing.

1040
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: You can, you know, lock in JT for a top ten.

1041
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: Look Xander Shofle, I think for a top twenty at

1042
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: vanduel Is minus one twenty this week. Xander Shoftly has

1043
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 1: finished in the top twenty in thirteen of twenty career

1044
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: major championships. I don't believe he's ever been outside the

1045
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: top twenty at a US Open. I mean, the guy

1046
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: just he's that good play some of those bets. Don't

1047
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: don't be afraid to play even money or you know,

1048
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: close to it type of bets at a US Open

1049
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 1: like this and then use the perceived value of of

1050
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: what you're gonna make off that to bank all some

1051
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: of those long shots. One value play just because this

1052
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: guy is a major champion and he's another guy with

1053
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: a lot of shots in his bag. And you tell

1054
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: me your thoughts on Jordan's he's not his outspoken as

1055
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: Rory and JT, but he's in that camp of being

1056
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: very loyal to the tour. Feels like one of their

1057
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 1: stalwarts moving forward, not a guy that can be bought.

1058
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: This course set up to him twenty five to one

1059
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: fan to me, that's that's pretty good odds for a

1060
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: guy that has win equity out here. Correct, I love it.

1061
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: The only problem is Jordan's speeed. We all remember him

1062
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: winning at Chambers Bay back in in nine others start,

1063
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: by the way, just weird that Jordan's Speeds played ten

1064
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: US Opens already in his career. That that feels like

1065
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: it's that's crazy twice as many as it should be.

1066
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: He's only years old. That said, he's played ten of

1067
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: these things. He's one once, hasn't finished better than seventeen

1068
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: in the other nine. And so you start looking at

1069
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: and you go. Yeah, can Jordan's speed win? Of course? Again,

1070
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: is that a good number on it? Absolutely? Can we

1071
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: see some speech magic this week? I completely think so.

1072
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 1: I really like him. I've got him in the top

1073
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: ten of my rank. I think I've gotten sixth or

1074
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: seventh in the ranking right now. John that said, if

1075
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: there's some trepidation, it's just that year after year, other

1076
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 1: than that victory, he just hasn't had his best stuff

1077
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: in US Open the beast and he fades with big

1078
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: names that you're off. Uh. I don't know why, but

1079
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: I don't love Cameron Smith this week, spraying it off

1080
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: the tea the way he does. I can see him

1081
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: in some thick rough around here where you know, it's

1082
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: just you're not gonna be able to get something back

1083
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: onto the green. So I think he could be in

1084
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: some trouble. Victor Hovlin still ranks dead lad. I get

1085
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: how good he is is. He's a great balls right

1086
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: rank's dead last in strokes getting around the greens. If

1087
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: you or I played the PGA Tour, we might be

1088
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: better at chipping the ball around the greens than Victor Hoflin.

1089
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: Can't do anything else better than him. But look, you're

1090
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: you're going to miss Greens. It's the US Open, and

1091
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: so I just don't like the fact that he's not

1092
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: as proficient as he needs to be when he does

1093
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: miss and so I don't love him for the number.

1094
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: I probably don't love John rom for the number. I

1095
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: don't love Scottie Scheffler. It doesn't mean, you know, for

1096
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: a one and done pool or something like that, you

1097
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't take him, But I just I don't want to

1098
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: play him at that short number of the betting marketplace. Well,

1099
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: once upon a time these guys, if like we're BFFs.

1100
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: That no longer is clearly the case. But they've won

1101
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: US Opens. Is DJ and Kepta. They got big numbers

1102
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: right now. I mean two guys that have been in

1103
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: the easily fifteen to one and up before DJ fan

1104
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: to a forty four to one, kept a fifty five

1105
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: to one. Uh, DJ, does he even care kept as

1106
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: he healthy takes on those two guys. Yeah, I'm I'm

1107
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: not really in on either of those guys. They have talent,

1108
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: of course they do. If there's one guy who's gonna

1109
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: be able to put all the live stuff behind him

1110
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: and just not even think about it and go play golf.

1111
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: It's Dustin Johnson, So yeah, I can certainly see DJ

1112
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: playing well this week. There's something going on with Brooks.

1113
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. He's only played two

1114
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: events in the last two months, and that was the

1115
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: Masters and the p G. A hasn't played anywhere else.

1116
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's hurt. I don't know if

1117
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't care. I gotta send some some things that

1118
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: I heard of, just you know, it's just not that

1119
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: into going out there and grinding that much right now.

1120
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm staying away from Brooks for a while. Okay, last,

1121
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: but not least, this guy's played really well. It feels

1122
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: like he's got some momentum at fifty two one. Billy Horschel, Yeah,

1123
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's kind of a quote unquote somewhat

1124
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,959
Speaker 1: of a flyer, you know, is this a spot form? Look?

1125
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: I like Billy. I'd almost like Billy Moore if he

1126
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: hadn't won the Memorial Tournament a few weeks ago. I

1127
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: don't know that he's got back to back wins in them,

1128
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: you know. I yes, he's done it before his career.

1129
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: He did during the FedEx Cup playoffs the year that

1130
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: he won. He won back to back, but that's that's

1131
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: that's a tough little double. They're going from your field

1132
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: village to the country club and winning both of them.

1133
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: As far as an outright play, I've got him right

1134
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: around eighteen to twentieth I think in my ranking. So

1135
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's not like I disliked Billy Orschel playing

1136
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: some of the best golf of his life, as he

1137
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: said afterwards. But I just don't know. If he finished

1138
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: six the Memorial, I might like him better for that

1139
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: wor he played this week than winning at the Memorial,

1140
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Okay, last, but not least just

1141
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: because I just said one Bryson d Shambo. I mean,

1142
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: he's won this tournament a couple of years ago. Like

1143
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: you said, the completely different setup here good bad spot

1144
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: for him. His his head somewhere else. He's been injured.

1145
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: Thoughts on Bryson, there's no reason to like him this

1146
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: week other than I've heard he's very confident. That's that's

1147
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: a huge number. So that's a huge numb heard Bryson

1148
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: talking about how confident he is in his abilities this week.

1149
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: Now does that mean something? I don't know. We'll see.

1150
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: But if Bryson likes himself, maybe we should have reason

1151
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: to like. Everything else is working against him. Though he's

1152
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: been injured, hasn't played great golf, he's going to live,

1153
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: he's got all his distractions. I don't love it, but

1154
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. Sometimes you listen to a player who

1155
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: thinks he knows it might not be crazy for like

1156
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: a top ten just giving those odds, right, I mean

1157
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: that's those are pretty big. Maybe, Although I feel like

1158
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: Bryson is the kind of guy that he's either gonna

1159
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: win or miss the cut by set, I don't know

1160
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: if I like him for a nice, consistent top ten

1161
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: kind of finish. Remember last year he's going he's headed

1162
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: the whole ten with the chance to win, and he

1163
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: shoots forty five on the back nine. Well, so we'll

1164
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: enjoy the week and uh tell Phil and everyone else

1165
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: we all say hi, and we're gonna miss him, and

1166
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: uh talk to you soon. I will absolutely head right

1167
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: back out to the course right now and go find

1168
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: Phil and talking for you. Take it easy, enjoy the

1169
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: US over man, Thank you appreciate. Okay, let's get the

1170
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: little mail bag at go lo pod. At gol pod

1171
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: is the Instagram you just fire in those d m

1172
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: s and you get your question answered here on the show.

1173
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: Very very easy to do. So I gotta go to

1174
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: my requests and let's filter, and let's start with Jason

1175
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: first time Golf d m R. How bad would it

1176
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: be for the PGA Tour if a live golf golfer

1177
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: wins a major. I feel like the majors are the

1178
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: PGA's bread and butter to the common golf fan, and

1179
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: if a live golfer comes in and steals the show,

1180
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: it would be deflating to the PGA Tour and the

1181
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: PGA members. They're bashing other guys from going to get

1182
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: the money with live. Well, I don't think these guys

1183
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: are bashing them because they're not good players. I think J.

1184
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: T Rory would tell you what a legend Phil is,

1185
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: or how talented Bryson is, or how great Patrick Reid

1186
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: Shortcame is or how well Taylor Gooch has played this year.

1187
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it would be a very very

1188
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: big deal for live. Now, the PGA Tour does not

1189
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: own or operate any of the majors, so if you're

1190
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: not like a golf die hard, they don't obviously operate

1191
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: the Masters They do not operate the the US Open,

1192
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: the U s g A does. They do not operate

1193
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: the British Open, and they do not operate despite it

1194
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: being the PGA Championship. The PGA Championship. They're really They're

1195
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: major is the players, which you know had the biggest

1196
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: person the history of golf this year at twenty million

1197
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: until the live event. So this weekend is big for live.

1198
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: If some of live golfers crush it, I'm with you,

1199
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: it's it's not gonna be ideal. But I don't know

1200
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,479
Speaker 1: what the PGA Tour does. Will this live deal force

1201
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour to completely restructure their operating model. I

1202
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: read they have high administrative overhead and do a ton

1203
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: of charity payoffs. They may have to lean up their

1204
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: operation and cut the charity to allow much more cash

1205
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: flow to the players. If what I read is true, well,

1206
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: it is true. There are five oh one c it's

1207
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: the reason that they can't put guys on salary. I

1208
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: know there are some questions and Phil has always had

1209
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: them about the commissioner, specifically Jay Monahan's compensation and the

1210
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: way he's compensated relative to not the top twenty guys,

1211
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: but like the top fifty guys. It makes certain top

1212
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: guys uncomfortable. They go, where is the money going? Now?

1213
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: They're discrepancies. Phil claims there's a lot of money missing.

1214
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: The PGA Tour has been adamant there's not that much

1215
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 1: money missing. But it's pretty clear with the NFL and

1216
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: the NBA they have specific revenue sharing agreements that all

1217
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: the money the players get are because they split the revenue.

1218
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: That does not feel like the way the PGA Tour

1219
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: operates because it's not. And I think this will forever

1220
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: alter the PGA Tour. Do I know how? I do not,

1221
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: but I know they don't have a choice. They have

1222
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: to change. When you are threatened by a legit foe

1223
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: in your business, you have two choices. You can get

1224
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: taken out or slowly destroyed, or adapt and try to thrive.

1225
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: And I think so far there has been an arrogance

1226
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 1: with J Monahan and the PGA Tour officials. I'm not

1227
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 1: blaming the players. I'm blaming J for not going. We

1228
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: got a problem. I'm watching the RBC Sunday Afternoon and

1229
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: a t Rory Tony Fine out teeing off on hold

1230
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: to eighteen and a fucking commercial comes on. That is

1231
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: a direct def you to me as a consumer. I'm

1232
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: giving you my time, which gives you the money to

1233
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: pay the players. Yet you throw an ad And I

1234
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: know that CBS's choice, but like you gotta figure that out.

1235
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: You are not a consumer friendly product and you can't

1236
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: just do the same thing over and over and over again.

1237
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: And I love golf. I like golf probably even slightly

1238
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: more than football because, like I've said before, I play it,

1239
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I haven't taken a snap with

1240
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: pads on since I was eighteen years old. It's why

1241
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: our relationship with the sport of golf is so much

1242
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: different than the other sports. You can be fifty years

1243
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: old and you get to I can go play St Andrew's,

1244
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: I can go play pebble Beach. I can't play Lambo.

1245
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: So you have to treat the fans who watch your

1246
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 1: stuff better than they do, and they don't treat them well.

1247
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: The players do rory how they treat their They're awesome,

1248
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: But the way the the PGA Tour, which is led

1249
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: by j Monahan, and the business relationship they have with

1250
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: their TV partners, it's a massive f you to us.

1251
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: They have to be better or they deserve to get

1252
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: curb stomped. And right now I wouldn't say curb stopped,

1253
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: but they're definitely getting some some kidney shots in. At

1254
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: what point does the PGA Tour essentially become a tryout

1255
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: for these guys to get paid by Live? If there's

1256
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 1: no serious consequences to leaving the PGA for Saudi Payday,

1257
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: what's stopping more of these guys from jumping ship after

1258
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: the tournament we saw the RBC this weekend. Live will

1259
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: come back swinging. I think their first event went well,

1260
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: but clearly the bulk of the prime time product is

1261
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: still in Monahan's army. But these guys are employed soldiers,

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Speaker 1: their mercenaries. They go where the money is, and I'm

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Speaker 1: taking financial freedom for twenty weeks of work. Ten times

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Speaker 1: out of ten, I agree, And I think DJ said

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01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: it well. I joined Live to play less golf. The

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01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: goal of life is to make the most money possible,

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01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: to have the most time possible. The most valuable asset

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01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: we have when we are alive is not money. It's

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01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 1: not our house. It's time. Because the more time you have,

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Speaker 1: the more ability you have to spend with the people

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01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: you want to spend it with and do what you

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01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: want to do. And if I want to make a

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01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: lot of money in the PGA Tour, I have to

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01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: play a lot of events and they literally have minimums

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01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: fifteen and that's separate from the Major. So I'm with you.

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01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of guys and you

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01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: can honestly call them kind of weak, like Bryson Patrick

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01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: read they didn't go to the first event, they avoided

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01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: the heat. If you want to give DJ and Phil

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01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 1: credit for taking all the money, they took all the bullets.

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01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 1: Ian Poulter, Lee Westwood getting asked questions that they would

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01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: play in Putin's Golf Tournament. You know, Bryson hit he

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01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: answered questions this week, but everyone's answering this questions this week.

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01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 1: It's a major. Bryson didn't have the stones to go

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01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 1: to that first event in London. That there's no way

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Speaker 1: around that. That's a fact. So I I do give

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01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: some of these guys if you're gonna give them credit,

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01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: because again they don't deserve credit. They they're getting paid

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01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: to do this. This is not charity. But like they

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01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: took all the arrows for all these other guys that

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01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: are gonna get to you know, kind of Kevin Nah

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01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: that these guys took it. We've seen a lot of

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01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 1: rumors about how much cash DJ Phil Brison have received.

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Speaker 1: What I haven't seen is any speculation on what length

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01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 1: of the deals for one or two years is very

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Speaker 1: different than a hundred five million for ten years. It

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Speaker 1: also would have a big impact on how long it

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01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: could be until these guys could rejoin the PGA Tour

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01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: if they do chose to do so. I don't think

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01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: these guys want to break the contract with a shoddy rasime.

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01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 1: Sounds risky. I've heard maybe maybe this sobol Bid have

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01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 1: said this might have been off air. The deals are

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01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 1: for four years, so these are not one year deals.

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01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: This is a long term plan. These guys are gonna

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01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: be playing for the Saudi League for years. That's a

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01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: big reason why Jay's matt like he lost Dustin Johnson

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01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: and Taylor Gooch four years. Those guys are gone. Bryson,

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01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 1: d Shambo and Patrick Read are gone until they're allowed

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01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: to play both and right now they're obviously all indefinitely suspended.

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01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 1: Now will that hold up in court? Time will tell, uh,

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01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's multiple years it's not a one

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01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: year deal. And I think there's some discrepancies on if

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Speaker 1: I paid you a hundred fifty million you also is

1314
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 1: that also part of your winnings? Like if you win

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01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: two million dollars, do you actually only get to take

1316
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: one million dollars? And some of it was up front?

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01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 1: No one really knows except the player of the agent

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01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 1: and the Saudis and probably the Shark. But I I

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01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: think a lot of this money is getting thrown around.

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01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 1: Some people question the validity to all of it, not

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01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 1: that it doesn't exist, but the setups of the contracts.

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01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 1: Not everyone is the same, right, Kevin Na is not

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01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 1: operating the same thing that Filling and Dustin Johnson or

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Speaker 1: or even Bryson. Uh. While watch in the RBC this weekend,

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Speaker 1: I have thought about the recent live player migration and

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01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: wanted to get your thoughts. I feel like the p

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Speaker 1: g A is eventually gonna have to walk back the

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01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 1: ontour band for the players going to live. Ideally, they

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01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: love to dust those players under the rug and pretend

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01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 1: they don't exist to maintain viewership. Won't happen. The live

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01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 1: players were mentioned all weekend during the RBC broadcast talking

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01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 1: about records, past tournament finishes, et cetera. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: hard for fans to remain loyal viewers of the p

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Speaker 1: g A if they're reminded of the players they can't

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01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: watch on their own platform. I for one, would be

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Speaker 1: more inclined to follow live over the p g A

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01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: If my favorite players like JT and Cameron Smith ever moved,

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01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: do you think the PGA doubles down and starts to

1339
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 1: blacklist live players from even being mentioned during the PGA broadcast.

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01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: That seems extremely petty, but nowadays nothing is surprising. I'm

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01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: with you. They talked about live and they're continuing to

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01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: do it at the US Open more than they are

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01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 1: about the US Open or the RBC E. Now, you

1344
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 1: could argue it's not avoidable. It's not avoidable. I could

1345
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 1: not host a radio show in Cleveland right now and

1346
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 1: not talk about Deshaun Watson all the time. The elephant

1347
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: in the room in golf is live that there is

1348
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 1: no way around it. When Phil Brison and DJ go

1349
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean, you can never discount it. I listen.

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01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 1: I got fired because the Raiders wanted me out because

1351
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: they didn't like the way I talked money talks. Here's

1352
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: the problem. The reason the PGA Tour has the money

1353
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 1: is because CBS and NBC bottom because they had the players.

1354
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 1: That's where all the cash comes from. The stars. So

1355
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: you start losing the stars, it starts getting into murky waters.

1356
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: I I don't know. I mean, I think he would

1357
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: love to blacklist them, but I don't think he can.

1358
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: He's gonna lose that fight and ultimately the PGA Tour.

1359
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 1: Here's what's weird about these relationships is CBS pays the

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01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 1: PGA Tour. So ultimately, how does the PJA tory tell

1361
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: you what you can and cannot do when I pay

1362
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: you whatever? They're paying them a billion dollars over a

1363
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: debt ten years. It's like, hey, motherfucker's I'm cutting you

1364
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 1: the check. We dictate what goes on. But it's it's

1365
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 1: always a give and take. It's one thing. If it's

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01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 1: the NFL, it's like, bro, you guys, the PGA Tour,

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01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 1: you know two and a half million people watch, come on,

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01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 1: I'm cutting you the check. So I I think it's

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01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: a very slippery slope. What is lives endgame with paying

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01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,839
Speaker 1: these golfers astronomical amounts of money can they possibly recruit

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01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 1: to make a profit. I think not, Well, that's the

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01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: scary part. I think you just hit the nail on

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01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 1: the head. They're not trying to make a profit. They're

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01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: trying to do what all these guys keep talking about

1375
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 1: the sports washing. They're trying to make Soddis look better

1376
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: through golf, and they have the money in the financial

1377
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 1: resources to do it. So if me and you, let's

1378
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: say I had let's just say we're super rich. I

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01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 1: had five million dollars, you had five million, hundred million dollars,

1380
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 1: and we became partners, and we said we're gonna go

1381
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 1: finance two companies. We're each gonna give both companies, you know,

1382
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: we'll give them each four hundred million dollars and will

1383
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: invest the other hundred million dollars into something else, So

1384
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 1: we'll have multiple investments. Will would eventually want with our

1385
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 1: investments money coming back a return on an investment. When

1386
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 1: you're watching the stock market right now, a lot of

1387
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 1: these growth stocks that never turn to profit are getting destroyed,

1388
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: and the stocks that individuals own and definitely firm zone

1389
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 1: are selling it off because they don't think these companies

1390
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 1: are gonna be able to turn a profit. That is

1391
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 1: the way our society works when it comes to business.

1392
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: I may give you a runway if I give you

1393
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: five hundred million dollars as an investment, to give you

1394
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:49,480
Speaker 1: several years to build the business model, build by you know, consumers,

1395
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 1: But eventually I have to see an r o I.

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01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: Most people that I've read that know what they're talking about,

1397
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 1: do not think that these people care about a return

1398
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 1: on investment, which is very, very scary for the PGA

1399
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 1: Tour because the PGA Tour, CBS, everyone that's in bed together, RBC, KPMG,

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01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 1: you name a T and T. They're all about making money,

1401
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 1: making money. I don't think people believe that live the

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01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 1: saadis give one. They don't lose one second of sleep

1403
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: over what the r o I is, at least for

1404
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:28,719
Speaker 1: the foreseeable future. And the amount of money they're spending.

1405
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 1: It's like they're they're not looking for a ten bagger here.

1406
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: They'd be fine with just they'll lose money. I think

1407
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 1: how much money they're making right now and goal in

1408
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 1: in gas. So it's very very scary times, I think

1409
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 1: for the PGA Tour. Hey John sent a similar question

1410
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: before the Masters. We are doing this pool again, each

1411
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 1: person picks one player in the group. I think the

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01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 1: guys you should be all over right now? Are J

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01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 1: T R Rory? Uh? I think Shane Lowry for or

1414
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:04,640
Speaker 1: I like speed Zala Trus. I think Homer is very

1415
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 1: very interesting in Joaquin Neeman. I think I love Burger

1416
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 1: I think Burger us Open. It feels like he's a

1417
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: He's that type player. Um and Tommy Fleetwood, Billy Horschel.

1418
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:21,560
Speaker 1: I'd be on some of those guys too. Uh. Do

1419
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 1: you think the middle of the lower middle class of

1420
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 1: the PGA tour leaving to live will actually help PGA

1421
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 1: on Sundays? The top ten fifteen are so much better

1422
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: than the middle class once the once the lower class

1423
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: of tour. I'm sure the super smart M I. T

1424
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 1: Guy has already done the math to calculate if the

1425
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 1: probability of X top ten player before live versus afterlive.

1426
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 1: So what is Vegas saying in terms of the odds

1427
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 1: of the big boys who stayed? But here's the thing, so, yeah,

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01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: I hear you. You lose Sergio, you lose Louis Use stays,

1429
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 1: and you lose Lee Westwood, you lose Patrick Read. Those

1430
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 1: guys are not considered like top ten players, but they

1431
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 1: are they impact the strength of the field. You remove

1432
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: those guys, you still you still have to fill their spots.

1433
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 1: The guys just feeling their spots are not as good.

1434
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:07,680
Speaker 1: So it's more likely the j T speak rom you know,

1435
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:11,560
Speaker 1: whoever uh rory is gonna win. There might be some

1436
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 1: validity to that. Non majors. Um yeah, I could see that,

1437
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: so you could argue it could be good for the

1438
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 1: tour potentially, Cam Smith, Scotty Scheffler, Sam Burns. You know

1439
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 1: when tigers around Colin Morikawa, if if some of the

1440
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: if if the fluff, if the middle and lower class leave.

1441
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,879
Speaker 1: But ultimately I think having star players and names matters.

1442
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 1: I do have a question for the POD. I'm new

1443
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 1: with paying attention to pro golf and with live taking

1444
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 1: the top players. What does that mean for the field

1445
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,640
Speaker 1: in the majors? Can anyone compete in majors? Would love

1446
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 1: to hear more about the one on one mechanics of

1447
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 1: pro tournaments. Keep up the great content well, the way

1448
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 1: the masters can invite whoever they want, whenever they want.

1449
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 1: Now they have a rule of your top fifty player.

1450
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,719
Speaker 1: Most of these other events are determined by the World

1451
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 1: Golf rankings o w g R official World Golf rankings,

1452
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 1: which the European and the PGA Tour own. Now, if

1453
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 1: you win a tournament like let's say the US Open,

1454
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: you're exempt for a decade. So Dustin Johnson, when he

1455
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 1: wins in two thousand and sixteen, could play the US Open,

1456
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 1: whether he quits golf or not, plays and live for

1457
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 1: the next ten years. If I win the the British Open,

1458
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 1: I am exempt till I'm sixty years old. So if

1459
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: I win the British Open like Jordan's Speed at twenty

1460
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: four years old, I can play whether I'm good at

1461
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 1: golf or bad at golf for the next thirty six years.

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01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 1: UH the PGA Championship, I think it's only a five

1463
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 1: year exemption, but once you win it, your your official

1464
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 1: Golf World rankings are so high, and ultimately when you

1465
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 1: fall out of official World Golf rankings, it can impact

1466
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 1: your status for the majors when you don't have status.

1467
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:58,719
Speaker 1: When Phil talks about he's a lifetime member like Dustin Johnson,

1468
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 1: it's because they have fifteen plus years on the PGA

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Speaker 1: Tour and they've won twenty events. So there are several

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Speaker 1: different categories, whether it's big picture macro like that, whether

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Speaker 1: it's individual tournaments and you have exempt status, whether it's

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Speaker 1: all time money lists. If you're in like the top

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Speaker 1: fifty of a money list, you can get exempt status

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Speaker 1: to play on the PGA Tour. So this is what

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Speaker 1: Jay Monahan, on top of the labor laws, is going

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Speaker 1: to have to battle against. So Phil Mickelson is able

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Speaker 1: to play in the Majors for the foreseeable future. He

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Speaker 1: has exempted in the Masters for the rest of his life.

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Speaker 1: At fifty one years old, he can play the British

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Speaker 1: Open for the next nine years. DJ is a little

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Speaker 1: different because he's never won the Open, but he's obviously

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Speaker 1: exempt for life at the Masters. In the US Open,

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Speaker 1: he still has five more years, So it gets a

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Speaker 1: little more complicated with the Louise he's won the Open,

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Speaker 1: but Kevin Nas Taylor Gooch is guys like that who

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Speaker 1: are very dependent on the World Golf rankings. So I

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Speaker 1: think they're just a lot of moving parts. There are

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Speaker 1: a lot of variables. That's why a lot of people

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Speaker 1: in golf are freaking out. They don't know what to

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Speaker 1: make of any of this, and it's complicated. I don't

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Speaker 1: necessarily have all the answers either. I just know that

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Speaker 1: last week I think had uh someone that lives in

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Speaker 1: the Bay Area for now, an earthquake. I we got

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Speaker 1: one probably a month ago, at like three or four

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Speaker 1: in the morning. It'll rattle you, it'll shake you, it'll

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Speaker 1: wake you up. And I think Jay Monahan, the PGA

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Speaker 1: tour officially last week got got shook and live was

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Speaker 1: the earthquake. Appreciate everyone listening, subscribe to the podcast, share

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Speaker 1: uh interacting and talk to you soon see it the

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