1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm Nicole Perkins, and in my new podcast, The Godmother, 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm inviting you to nineteen thirty six New York to 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: a Manhattan courthouse. 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: At the time, it was called the Trial of the Century. 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: They had snipers on the roofs in Foley Square. They 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: had police officers with riot guns in the hallway. 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: On the stand was one of America's most notorious gangsters, 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: a man named Lucky Luciano. 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: He is called sometimes the Boss of Bosses. NiCoT Father 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: was a great film based Paul on the Luciana legend. 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: At this trial, on a crisp spring morning, in the 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: middle of the Great Depression, Lucky would finally be. 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: Brought down or Old Luciano said, Holy Toledo, you're giving 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: me a life sentence. Everybody generally agrees that that was 15 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: the nail in Lucky's coffin. 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: But beneath the glitz, the glamour, the grime, and the 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: notoriety of this moment in American history, there's another story 18 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: that's being overshadowed, a name that's been left out of 19 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: the Hollywood retellings, Unice Carter. 20 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 2: There's a better story to be told, a more complex story. 21 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: But for Unice Carter. I don't know that Lucciana wouldever 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: have been convicted. 23 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: Unice Carter was a black female lawyer in nineteen thirties 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: America who took down one of history's most notorious gangsters. 25 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,919 Speaker 2: Unice Carter was the spark that started the fire. 26 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: She was the one that said, this is how we 27 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: get it. So why hasn't she been remembered. 28 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: I just want people to know what she did. 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: I've been doing some digging, and what I found paints 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: a picture of a complex, fascinating woman. 31 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: This is a straight shooter who will say something and 32 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: mean it. 33 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: She intimidated a lot of people in real life. She 34 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: was just kind of a fierce person. 35 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: All around us. Today, Black American history is being erased, 36 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: especially the stories of black women. 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: It's not even just that not everyone remembers Unice, but 38 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: that people don't even believe she could have existed. The 39 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 3: idea that she could have existed seems like a fantasy 40 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: to people. 41 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: Remembering Unice Carter feels more urgent than ever. This is 42 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: a story of ambition, justice, and legacy. This is the 43 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: story of Unice Carter. 44 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 3: The influence that you have while you're alive matters, even 45 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 3: if after you're gone, everyone forgets about you. It doesn't 46 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 3: mean that it was all for nothing. 47 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: Listen to The Godmother with me Nicole Perkins, Launching on 48 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: January fifteenth on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 49 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts.