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Speaker 1: Just like that, we back on the air.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to get another carefully reckless episode which your
Speaker 3: girl Jess hilarious. We got Taylor in the building and
Speaker 3: say hi, Taylor. Hi, y'all say hi to Taylor. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's my baby Mama. She and here and she's gonna
Speaker 3: be helping me fix the mess. We're gonna jump straight
Speaker 3: into it again. We have no voice notes and I
Speaker 3: get why, but I already see this person can't spell,
Speaker 3: so bear with me, all right, All right, hey Girley,
Speaker 3: So I'm conflicted. I've been cool with these two guys
Speaker 3: since we were in diapers, damn near. But as we
Speaker 3: grew older, I started to realize one of them developed
Speaker 3: feelings for me.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I was stuck in some shit like
Speaker 1: that before. Let's say his name is Jake.
Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna turn him down nor agree because we're friends.
Speaker 1: First.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to mess up the friendship. So once
Speaker 3: the other boy found out, I'm gonna say his name
Speaker 3: is Aj. So once AJ found out his man's liked me,
Speaker 3: all hell broke loose. The friendship dynamic was no more.
Speaker 3: Now they both just try to prove who's better for me.
Speaker 3: But it's quite annoying because I don't want either one
Speaker 3: of them. What so the other one I know, I'm
Speaker 3: almost I'm almost to the point of confusion as well.
Speaker 3: So there she has two friends she grew up with, yes,
Speaker 3: basically since in diapers, like they've been cool as fuck,
Speaker 3: but she said one of them started developing feelings for her,
Speaker 3: and one of.
Speaker 1: Them she didn't want.
Speaker 3: I know, but now she's talking about the second one
Speaker 3: development feelings as well, because both of them now were
Speaker 3: trying to see who can win her over, like they're
Speaker 3: in competition to get her. But she did say that
Speaker 3: Shane want to mess up the friendship with Jake, so
Speaker 3: Shane want to turn him down or agree to start
Speaker 3: dealing with him. So she just like kind of didn't
Speaker 3: do anything yet. I know, we got to finish, but
Speaker 3: I mean it's kind of a little weird. Yeah, like
Speaker 3: she said, I'm gonna take it from a few lines up,
Speaker 3: she said, now they both try to prove who's better
Speaker 3: for me. Yeah, so both of them like yours, dummy,
Speaker 3: and it's quite annoying because I don't want neither one
Speaker 3: of them. Okay, Okay, I valued our friendship way more
Speaker 3: than anything. Now, don't get me wrong. I did like
Speaker 3: aj when we were younger, but it's like he's like
Speaker 3: a brother now, and how would I even be able
Speaker 3: to do that?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: Then Jake just fell back once he realized I wasn't budging.
Speaker 3: Then he randomly texts me for a date. I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna lie. I actually replied and accepted the fuck you
Speaker 3: just said, girl. Then he flaked girls, so that confused me.
Speaker 3: They just playing games? Oh my gosh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm just here to ask should I choose one or
Speaker 3: just try to keep them both in a friend zone
Speaker 3: or just cut both of them off. It's hard to
Speaker 3: tell when your friends start to like you, and I
Speaker 3: just don't know what to do, and I don't want
Speaker 3: to lose them. Okay, so you don't want to lose them,
Speaker 3: but it's annoying that they like you. You don't like
Speaker 3: neither one of them, but you did like one when
Speaker 3: you were younger, but you didn't want to fuck up
Speaker 3: the friendship.
Speaker 1: And that was when you were younger.
Speaker 3: So now you get fast forward, you get older. You
Speaker 3: don't like me the one of them, but you accepted
Speaker 3: a fucking date right that one of them asked you
Speaker 3: out on.
Speaker 1: I think weird?
Speaker 4: What were they just trying to see? I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think with guys from in a sense what I've learned.
Speaker 4: I think they.
Speaker 1: Try to see if they can mm hmm.
Speaker 4: How long they were friends for.
Speaker 3: She says, since they've been in diapers damn near, both
Speaker 3: of them. She's been friends with both of them, Like
Speaker 3: all three of them are friends, and she's been well,
Speaker 3: you know what. She actually didn't say whether AJ and
Speaker 3: Jake were close. She's just been both of their friends.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: Hey, girl, I'm so complext that I've been cool with
Speaker 3: these two guys since we were in diapers damn near.
Speaker 3: But as we grew older, I started to realize one
Speaker 3: of them developed feelings for me.
Speaker 1: Let's say his name is Jake. I wasn't going to
Speaker 1: turn him down nor gread.
Speaker 3: Yeah. She didn't say whether Jake and AJ were friends,
Speaker 3: like all three of them were like collectively friends together
Speaker 3: as a group.
Speaker 1: She's just friends with both of them. What if I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I just feel like, depending on the circumstance, guy's gonna
Speaker 5: try it and.
Speaker 3: See absolutely, especially if you're attractive. But then he turned
Speaker 3: her down, so I don't know, and she said he flaked.
Speaker 3: So what she asking she wants to know whether she
Speaker 3: should try with the other guy now. No, I want
Speaker 3: to know should I keep them both in a friend
Speaker 3: zone or just cut both of them off? As hard
Speaker 3: as hell when your friends start to like you, I
Speaker 3: just don't know what to do, and.
Speaker 1: I don't want to lose them.
Speaker 3: Yes, keep them in the friend zone booth, But I
Speaker 3: think you owe both of them a conversation, you know,
Speaker 3: especially if you're writing you're to the point where you're
Speaker 3: writing me about this, I think you should have a
Speaker 3: conversation with the both of them.
Speaker 1: Sit down with AJ. You sit down with Jake.
Speaker 3: Sit down with Jake first, because he's the one that
Speaker 3: came on to you first, and you actually didn't tell
Speaker 3: him yeah or nay.
Speaker 1: You know, you just decided to go on a date
Speaker 1: with Jake.
Speaker 3: I mean with AJ, and AJ flaked on you, so
Speaker 3: you said at one point they were in competition to
Speaker 3: see who can get you first, like who can prove
Speaker 3: themselves I guess to be the best for you. I
Speaker 3: feel like you need to sit down with Jake and say, yo,
Speaker 3: we've been friends since diapers and shit, I don't want
Speaker 3: to mess up anything.
Speaker 1: When you first told me that you did like.
Speaker 3: Me, and you you know, we realized that you had
Speaker 3: developed feelings for me. I didn't know what to tell you.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to say yes, I didn't want to
Speaker 3: say no.
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 3: We we you know. I've grown to know who you are.
Speaker 3: I know you inside and out. We're friends, We're really
Speaker 3: really good friends. I just don't want to risk the
Speaker 3: entirety of our friendship if this doesn't work out, because
Speaker 3: some friends actually do that. They come on to their
Speaker 3: friends and they actually start dating, and they realize that
Speaker 3: the shit is not what you know, they thought it
Speaker 3: would be, and then now they can't even go back
Speaker 3: to being friends because they've already explored more intimately what
Speaker 3: a relationship would be like.
Speaker 4: I think she should keep it as friends.
Speaker 1: I think they should keep it as friends.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she didn't feels aj the same thing.
Speaker 3: She said she used to like one of them when
Speaker 3: they were younger, when they were all younger, but.
Speaker 1: Then they grew up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like this, it's too many people out here, there's too
Speaker 3: many men out here to try to choose between two
Speaker 3: really good friends. And then also good friends are very
Speaker 3: very hard to come by. So I think if there
Speaker 3: were if there were if there wasn't anything going on,
Speaker 3: like anything wrong with the friendship at all, don't fuck
Speaker 3: it up by trying to fuck with each other. Also,
Speaker 3: at the same time, I know she's enjoying that attention
Speaker 3: that both of them are basically competing for her love.
Speaker 1: Because what woman wouldn't like that.
Speaker 3: I mean, she did say it's annoying, but she also
Speaker 3: didn't put a fucking stop to it either and tell
Speaker 3: either one of them.
Speaker 1: Look, I don't want either one of y'all.
Speaker 3: This is crazy. We've been friends for a long time.
Speaker 3: I've been you'all homegirl, you know what I'm saying. Let's
Speaker 3: just keep it at that. Aj, I did like you
Speaker 3: when I was younger. I know you probably know that,
Speaker 3: but we were younger.
Speaker 1: We're grown now.
Speaker 3: I don't know how old you are, but you know,
Speaker 3: if you all are adults, we're adults. We're young adults.
Speaker 3: Like No, it's too many efficient tocyy. I just don't
Speaker 3: want to fuck our friendship up. We all three of
Speaker 3: us have a great friendship. I don't want to a period.
Speaker 3: And that's the point blank. I needn't have a story.
Speaker 3: This was boring, crazy, because girl, why you come on?
Speaker 3: Answer your old question, answered your own goddamn question. Now
Speaker 3: we got a commercial, and if you click off this podcast,
Speaker 3: I swear I'm ana beat your ass.
Speaker 1: Listen. All right, so this is the story? Do you
Speaker 1: do you have a story?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: All right, good, that's fine. That's fine because we got
Speaker 3: another one. Okay, hey ja, So let me tell you
Speaker 3: about my baby daddy. So he got his new little girlfriend. Okay, cool.
Speaker 3: I have no problem with that, but our seven year
Speaker 3: old daughter does. And not to get me started, when
Speaker 3: he bought the girlfriend around my daughter without even asking
Speaker 3: me how I would feel about it, which is a
Speaker 3: big no no for me.
Speaker 1: But that's a story for another day.
Speaker 3: My daughter isn't comfortable with her yet, or just not
Speaker 3: even comfortable with the fact that her father is seeing
Speaker 3: someone else, so I suggested we give her time. He agreed,
Speaker 3: then proceeds to do it again and lied, knowing that
Speaker 3: my daughter has to come back home to me and
Speaker 3: tell me. Of course, we had arguments about it, but
Speaker 3: he just feels he can do what he wants and
Speaker 3: come to find out, it's two different women.
Speaker 1: Okay, nil, Jess.
Speaker 3: I don't want to keep her from seeing her father,
Speaker 3: but it comes to a point especially when it has
Speaker 3: to do with my child and her comfortability. I have
Speaker 3: I haven't let her over there in two weeks, but
Speaker 3: she asked about him. I'm just not sure how I
Speaker 3: should go about this. I know this is a lot,
Speaker 3: but do you have any suggestions?
Speaker 1: Oh my, aha? Now what is this?
Speaker 4: What you said that the baby daddy agreed?
Speaker 3: The baby daddy agreed, I guess to you know, she said,
Speaker 3: the fact that our father isn't is seeing someone else,
Speaker 3: like the daughter has a problem with that. So I
Speaker 3: suggest that we give her time. And he agreed, but
Speaker 3: then yeah, but then proceeds to do it again. And
Speaker 3: then he lied, like you know, because he knows that
Speaker 3: the daughter, I mean, the daughter's going to go back
Speaker 3: and tell the mom everything that happened at the dad's house.
Speaker 1: Anyway, she's seven years old, and the.
Speaker 3: Mom honestly probably asks her, like what's going on?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like she sounds like she's already exposed to a lot. Anyway,
Speaker 3: Has daughter told him? Has a daughter told him what
Speaker 3: she felt? I don't think the daughter told the mom,
Speaker 3: I mean told the dad. I think the daughter tells
Speaker 3: the mom and then the mom then goes to the
Speaker 3: dad like, yo, look, this is a problem. I want
Speaker 3: to know how long they've been broken up though, because honestly,
Speaker 3: let me say, yeah, she doesn't say how long they've
Speaker 3: been broken up. She just says it's her baby daddy
Speaker 3: and he got a new little girlfriend. But listen, I'm
Speaker 3: a woman. And then I you know, I read, I
Speaker 3: read into contacts and she said he got a new
Speaker 3: little girlfriend. That tells me that there is some type
Speaker 3: of intimidation or jealousy there, or they may whether they
Speaker 3: have been broken up long or a shorter short pairiod
Speaker 3: of time.
Speaker 1: She's not past her baby daddy. I get that.
Speaker 3: I get that she's not fully moved on from him.
Speaker 1: And he probably is not either.
Speaker 3: He probably probably makes passes at the baby mom. But
Speaker 3: before we get there, if y'all are not together, he
Speaker 3: certainly can do what he wants to do. I understand
Speaker 3: the concerns for your child safety, the concerns for you know,
Speaker 3: exposing too many women too quickly to your daughter. She
Speaker 3: is only seven. I understand that. However, you kept baby
Speaker 3: girl away from him from two for two weeks, and
Speaker 3: you said that she asked about her dad. Why not
Speaker 3: have her dad come to your house? Why not just say, look,
Speaker 3: can you just not have them around? Can you just
Speaker 3: take her out somewhere? Like take the daughter out? I
Speaker 3: don't you know you can still there are still ways
Speaker 3: that she can be around her father without being around
Speaker 3: those women. And you know, keeping her away from him
Speaker 3: from for two weeks. As you can see, that hurts
Speaker 3: the daughter. That doesn't hurt Hugh. It doesn't hurt you know,
Speaker 3: the dad as much as it hurts the daughter.
Speaker 4: I think the docter say something.
Speaker 3: You think, Yeah, I mean I think that the dad
Speaker 3: should step in and have one on one with his daughter.
Speaker 3: I don't think the mom should have anything to do
Speaker 3: with it. I think he should also explain to her
Speaker 3: that sometimes mommy's and daddies don't say together. I know
Speaker 3: you probably want to see because baby girl probably want
Speaker 3: to see her mom and her dad together. Yeah, which
Speaker 3: is something that she probably already saw. And now she's confused.
Speaker 3: There's not one. There's not only this one new woman
Speaker 3: that my dad is introducing me to her that I'm
Speaker 3: seeing around my father.
Speaker 1: But there are two women. Okay. I honestly had reservation
Speaker 1: about it when they said neo. When neo, baby mom
Speaker 1: was like, yo, you.
Speaker 3: Got these four women around my kids, like you introduced
Speaker 3: them and then you know what I'm saying, like this
Speaker 3: is crazy. You have daughters and you have sons and
Speaker 3: you're letting them know that this is okay in life.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And Neil, so you're like, because like live how you
Speaker 5: wouldn't live.
Speaker 4: But it's just how he just is going about it.
Speaker 4: It's just disappointing. Like all of your songs were lies.
Speaker 1: I know, and I still be but I don't care.
Speaker 1: I know it is crazy.
Speaker 5: He was saying too that like he tells his kids like, yeah,
Speaker 5: this one, you know, she'll take you to work.
Speaker 3: This one, Yeah, this one's gonna cook your gonna But
Speaker 3: it's like they have rules, but you're teaching yes because
Speaker 3: you have daughter. Neil has daughters and sons. He does
Speaker 3: I think he just has sons. No, he has daughters too,
Speaker 3: I believe, m hmm. But yeah, So I mean I'm
Speaker 3: with I'm totally with keeping it real with your kids,
Speaker 3: Like you shouldn't lie to your children, know that's what Like,
Speaker 3: that's what black families have done up until now. Like
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like back in the day,
Speaker 3: they always swept shit under the rug. They lie to
Speaker 3: different you know, trying to parents would make it seem
Speaker 3: like everything is great in the house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like even me growing up with two married parents, there's
Speaker 3: a lot of shit going on that I didn't find
Speaker 3: out about until I was an adult, and that was
Speaker 3: their way of protecting us, you know, and do I
Speaker 3: think they should have done it another way, just for
Speaker 3: the sake of themselves not being happy in a marriage
Speaker 3: that long with each other, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't feel that you should sacrifice your happiness just
Speaker 3: so your kids can see a traditional family dynamic growing up. No,
Speaker 3: everything is not the normal. Everything is different for different families.
Speaker 3: I would absolutely prefer that my mom put her happiness
Speaker 3: before you know, yeah, before hours, honestly, because kids are
Speaker 3: gonna adapt.
Speaker 1: We we're kids, We're gonna adapt. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You don't have to live a lie.
Speaker 3: Don't live a lie so long, you know, because then
Speaker 3: your life then passed you by.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Up, Hold up, I know this shit getting good, But
Speaker 3: listen to just a couple seconds of a commercial. If
Speaker 3: you love me, you'll listen. I was a kid we didn't.
Speaker 3: We would have adapted the fun you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: My dad was never a bad daddy, just wasn't a
Speaker 3: good husband, you know, so that that's just what it was.
Speaker 3: He was the greatest father I could have had ever,
Speaker 3: and we would have definitely adapted to them living separate
Speaker 3: or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But back to this shit,
Speaker 1: What the fuck was the story about again?
Speaker 3: Because girl, I'm like the fire know what to do
Speaker 3: when it comes to her.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, that's all.
Speaker 3: I don't want to keep her from saying her father, but
Speaker 3: it comes to a point, especially when it has to
Speaker 3: do with my child and her comfortability. Yes, but I
Speaker 3: do want you to update me on this because I
Speaker 3: want to know did you move on from your baby
Speaker 3: daddy yet?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I feel like you haven't.
Speaker 1: I feel like there is maybe. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just feel like because because how she describes the
Speaker 3: girlfriend the beginning, the new little girlfriend is very telling,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It sounds a little yeah, a little new little.
Speaker 3: Girlfriend like and then she didn't even say little she
Speaker 3: l I l yeah, oh bitch here that was me
Speaker 3: all that when when I was back back, back, end
Speaker 3: of the day, Rome had a new little bitch. I
Speaker 3: would definitely sound like that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: rather like now it's more so like oh, Rome's friend
Speaker 3: or Rome's girlfriend or you know he's in a relationship now,
Speaker 3: you know whatever.
Speaker 1: So I would I refer to Mariah as from.
Speaker 4: Friend when you were back in the day, did he
Speaker 4: bring me?
Speaker 3: I never kept him. I never kept him from ash
Speaker 3: was bad ship. Please get him? No, but you can
Speaker 3: have him around ten bitches please.
Speaker 4: He didn't care he was around other girls.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: You know why because Rome loves his children, has always
Speaker 3: loved even when it was just Ashton, like loved my son,
Speaker 3: loved his son. So I always trusted that Rome would
Speaker 3: never ever put Ashton in harm's way intentionally.
Speaker 1: And then I was like over roam very early and.
Speaker 3: Like my last time even looking at Rome in any
Speaker 3: type of way that would give me butterflies was Ashton
Speaker 3: was maybe what three months? Oh wow, yeah, like our
Speaker 3: baby was young, and the last time we'd actually tried
Speaker 3: to get together Ashton was two. And after twenty four hours,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh fuck no, it's literally a day
Speaker 3: like and I was in a relationship with somebody, and
Speaker 3: I left that nigga to try to make it work
Speaker 3: again because I wanted to ask you to see the
Speaker 3: traditional family dynamic.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: I wanted to give it a chance. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: I want my family. He was saying the same shit,
Speaker 3: and that nigga cheated on me. Oh yeah, saying that
Speaker 3: in twenty.
Speaker 1: Four hours, and I was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: Girl?
Speaker 3: When I went to try to go get the nigga back,
Speaker 3: and the nigga was like, oh, I'll stay over, and
Speaker 3: I was like, no, I don't got a grace period,
Speaker 3: like the fun.
Speaker 1: Girl m So that's why, that's that's why I'm say.
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, no, no, no, you have to really
Speaker 3: really move on and be past this shit, because I
Speaker 3: honestly don't think she would give a fuck if she
Speaker 3: was past the baby daddy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly yes, and especially if he's a good father.
Speaker 1: If he's a good father.
Speaker 5: Do you think people that like parents that do feel
Speaker 5: the type of way when they bring another person in
Speaker 5: too soon, like its sister, they're feelings say that again, like,
Speaker 5: do you think that they just have feelings towards their
Speaker 5: baby mom or baby dad and when they when they
Speaker 5: want to bring around other people like you. You've seen
Speaker 5: girls get upset and like, I don't want don't bring
Speaker 5: my kid around every girl like I don't know her,
Speaker 5: but I feel like I would have to meet the
Speaker 5: girl too.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, absolutely, I felt like I definitely
Speaker 3: feel like you would have to meet the person. I
Speaker 3: don't disagree with that at all, especially if you're gonna
Speaker 3: be around my child. I would love to know. And
Speaker 3: there's so much shit is going on with people with
Speaker 3: kids and shit these days. These people are hurting kids
Speaker 3: that are even there, so you know, stepfathers and stepdads
Speaker 3: are like hurting kids, killing kids, all types of shit.
Speaker 3: So absolutely, I definitely have to know who my child
Speaker 3: is going to be around. But this is also another thing.
Speaker 3: Is this a serious relationship or is.
Speaker 1: This just a one off?
Speaker 4: And I'm saying, would you feel that way if there
Speaker 4: just flings?
Speaker 1: It's been in that situation, and yes, Rome has had thousands.
Speaker 5: Of flings, because I would feel I don't think I
Speaker 5: need to be have feelings for you for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I think in that case, don't why like,
Speaker 3: why do they have to be around my child? If
Speaker 3: this is just some somebody that you're talking to, why
Speaker 3: do you have to be around my child? Like if
Speaker 3: this is just somebody that you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 3: if this is not a committed relationship. Now when it
Speaker 3: gets committed and it gets serious, it's like, okay, I'm introducing,
Speaker 3: but I would love to meet this person. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: so then I know I want to be comfortable. I
Speaker 3: want to make sure what my child is I'm absent,
Speaker 3: you know, in my absence or anything where and while
Speaker 3: you are around them or you know, you're with your dad.
Speaker 3: Is the girlfriend safe? Is the girlfriend cool? Does she
Speaker 3: have kids?
Speaker 1: The fund? Does she not a care for a child? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think that should be a conversation with the parents.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Absolutely.
Speaker 3: I think this guy is just he just got bitches. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, because she did say new little girlfriend. Or
Speaker 3: maybe he has a new little girlfriend. No, no, maybe
Speaker 3: she is the one who made the.
Speaker 1: Girl the new little girlfriend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I don't think he probably what if he
Speaker 3: didn't tell her like this, this is my bitch, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like this my girlfriend, the little
Speaker 3: girl probably came back like, oh dad, it was a girl,
Speaker 3: you know, and then came back like, oh it was
Speaker 3: another girl. You know what I mean, Like, so this
Speaker 3: this may be just women that he is around, that
Speaker 3: he talked to that do shit for him or whatever,
Speaker 3: or just whatever. I don't agree that he's bringing them
Speaker 3: around his daughter if he's not going to be with them, right,
Speaker 3: m But you got to be able to just spend
Speaker 3: time with your child. Just buy yourself with your fucking child.
Speaker 3: Like some niggas can't move with our bitches.
Speaker 1: Weird.
Speaker 3: But we've come to get the end of another carefully
Speaker 3: reckless episode with your girl j just hilarious. Hey bye, Taylor, Bye,
Speaker 3: and we're gonna get some updates on these people. I
Speaker 3: know it was a lot of boneless stories today, but it.
Speaker 1: Is what it is. I'll catch you next week.
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