WEBVTT - Second Date Update: Hired A Hinge Coach 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.960 Dude, we actually had a listener pay for advice, of course, 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:07.840 not our advice. Okay, yeah, he hired an actual coach 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:10.960 and he did get one very very very useful piece 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:13.360 of advice that you're gonna hear in just a second. 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:15.600 But first we got to say thank you so much 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:17.120 for being here on a Monday. We got a brand 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:19.600 new episode for you on our Second Date podcast, and 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:22.520 we'd love to highlight a comment. Yeah, Melissa said. My 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:24.759 boss saw me smirk and said, you've been smiling and 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:27.400 giggling all day. Are you plotting something I should know 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:31.720 about as I'm listening to your podcast? Just say yes, yeah, 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:33.760 say why can't you have like a new crush? Yeah yeah, 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:36.120 why can't you just have fun at work? Oh way? Yeah, 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:39.200 well y's not allowed, even the boss. It's like, what's up? 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:39.680 All right? 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:42.720 Your brand new episode starts right now. Brooke and Jeffrey 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:44.800 in the morning Second Date Updates. 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:48.599 I can't believe I'm saying this. Okay, but if you're 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:52.000 a guy on a dating app right now. Looking back 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:55.720 to twenty twenty four, those were the good old days 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:58.560 of online meetups. Just like a year and a half, 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:03.480 oh yeah, remember those the golden era. Don't even get 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:09.000 me started on twenty twenty three. Oh oh, they make 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:13.720 documentaries about that time. But things have really changed. Whether 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:17.479 it's just a generations thing or the culture, the truth 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:21.360 is there's a lot of swiping and matching and chatting happening, 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:24.800 but not a whole lot of meeting and hanging and 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:26.120 actual romancing. 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:28.280 You do get the sense that people are just over it. 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:32.560 Yeah, you know, like not totally regime. Let's face it, 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.440 there's a really good Netflix show. You can binge with 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:38.800 your cat right now, and you don't need some random 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.200 guy to be there and ruin that for you. 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:42.880 Honestly, the cat probably smells better. 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.240 Yeah, So just blow that, dude and move on with 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:48.480 your life solo. I get it, okay, But one of 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:52.680 our listeners says he was determined to change that narrative. Okay, 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.760 fix the pattern, and his name is Roman. He's asked 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:57.800 for our help today. Roman, welcome to the show. 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:00.000 Hey guys, thanks so much for having me. 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:02.240 All right, you're going to fix it for all men 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:03.640 out there, just for yourself? 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:05.960 Roman, Well, at this point, I don't even know if 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:06.760 it worked for myself. 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:11.200 What was your plan? How did you try to change 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:12.919 the online dating trends. 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:16.360 Well, dating after so hard these days, and a lot 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:18.399 of times I don't even know how to really get 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:22.160 from just a regular conversation to an actual meetup. So 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:23.760 I hired a hinge coach. 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:28.040 Oh you got a coach? Oh yeah, okay, I mean, 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.799 I guess dating coaches have been around for a long time, 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:31.560 and we all. 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:33.840 Have a friend that can help, but like an actual coach, 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:37.839 like a professional that knows how the online matchups really work. 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.160 And we'll be honest with you. 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:43.200 Okay, you know your friends will not. But what did 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:47.320 your your hinge coach? What was his instruction for you? 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:49.240 You know? He said something that was so simple, but 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:53.040 it really changed my life. He said, once you match 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.920 you had a couple of comments back and forth, you 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:57.960 just have to go for it and say the following 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.640 and he quotes Okay, I feel like getting to know 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:02.680 each other would be more natural in person. 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:07.840 Oh, implying that this feels very awkward between us. 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:11.600 Yeah that I feel like that coach is not going 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:14.839 to be happy. You just spilled all his information. Yeah, 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:16.240 people pay for I. 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:17.680 Charged people five dollars for that. 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:22.480 Yeah, but it worked, It really worked. Now I'm actually 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:25.000 getting dates. 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:26.520 XI from the match to the act. 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:29.960 It's hard not to agree with that statement. 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:33.480 Yeah, I mean anybody could use it, like guys, girls. 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:37.280 Right yeah, aliens. Yeah sure, if aliens spoke English totally, 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.520 I bet some girls will be down to try some 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:41.960 alien species based on what they've had to deal with lately. 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:45.480 So who's the woman that you matched with that you 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:46.640 want us to call today? 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:48.080 Well, her name is Haley. 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:49.120 Okay. 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.280 And also, this is some advice I can give that helps. 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:56.160 Don't ask for her number, give them your number. 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:00.400 Strategy that I mean, you would feel more comfort as 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:01.320 a woman that way. 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:05.200 Right, Yeah, absolutely, And it worked. She texted me and 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:10.400 I was like, dude, this can't be real. Now. 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:13.320 Is this the first person that you use this strategy on? 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.240 It wasn't the first, but it's been the most successful, 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:19.839 which is why I'm so curious as to why it's 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:23.320 not going any further. Because we went out, we met, 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.400 it was awesome, Okay, what'd you do? We went to 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:34.040 the Mediterranean restaurant Mediterranean Mediterranean? Did I say Mediterranean? You did? 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.039 That's vegetarian and Mediterranean mixed together? 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:42.320 I think, yeah, yeah, we did the vegetarian Mediterranean. But 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:46.240 it was going so well that even halfway through the date, 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:47.800 we were talking about what we're going to do the 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:48.320 next time. 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:50.320 Cute, rare. 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:52.360 I've been on dates like that, but those are rare. 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:54.719 It's got to be a good sign, That's what I thought. 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.159 But then we're talking and all of a sudden, she 0:04:57.160 --> 0:05:00.960 gets real quiet, and it seems like she's thinking more 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:03.840 about it, and I don't know what it is. 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.440 She's like, wait a minute, why did I say future plans? 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:10.159 Oh my god? Is that what it felt like? She 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:11.200 was trying to walk back. 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.080 Absolutely. I was worried she was thinking of a movie 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:16.360 too fast? Or does she have other guys she wants 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.200 to see, because I mean, she is gorgeous. 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:21.400 She's really beautiful, Like this guy's going to take me 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:23.360 to another Mediterranean restaurant. 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.080 I mean it sounds like you have other women you're 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:27.360 talking to as well. 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.840 Not really, because my whole thing is like, we'll talk, 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:34.040 but once we go out, if it is successful, then 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:36.400 I kind of back off of the other people until 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:37.920 I see where this one goes. 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:38.719 Okay, Okay, you. 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:42.240 Didn't ask her to do the same, did you? 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:42.520 No? 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:44.279 No, no, no, no no, no, okay, all right, but you 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:46.800 could tell there was the hesitation just. 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.800 For a moment, just for a moment, and then she 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:50.960 kind of snapped out of it and we started talking 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.480 again and it was amazing. But you know, I didn't 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:56.360 want to overstate by welcome, so I walked into her 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:58.560 car and we actually we kissed. You. 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:01.039 So what's happened since then? 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.800 I mean she hasn't completely ghosted me. It hasn't been 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:08.159 all ghosting, but like if I say, hey, do you 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.599 want to plan the next time, I'll get a I'll 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:11.480 get back to you on. 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:15.120 That energy shift, it's like non committal. 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:17.360 Yeah, she's brushing him off. 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:19.919 Sure, And I just don't know what's going on. So 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:21.640 I really need you guys to help me out. 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:23.520 Sometimes, Brooke, I'll ask you a question and you'll say, 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:25.320 I'll get back to you on that. You're not completely 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:26.239 brushing me off. 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:28.719 I'll never get back to you on that. 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:33.000 You should just say that directly, but then you. 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.520 Have follow up questions if I say that, and then 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:36.280 that's a noise. 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:38.720 I know. Communication is so hard. 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.160 Easier to just lead you on and make you say 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:42.240 that you're going to get something. 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:44.640 Oh man, where is that hinge coach where you need 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:45.919 one to deal with your coworker. 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:48.800 I'll give you his number. 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.960 Okay, I have a question. Did you ask him about this? 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:54.400 No, my free trial expired. 0:06:54.720 --> 0:07:02.520 Okay, you're coming to the free service Brook and Jeffrey 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:03.000 in the morning. 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:05.640 Remember you get what you paid for. 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:09.040 Okay, so we're gonna do that. We'll give you exactly 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:12.520 what you paid for when we call Haley and get 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:15.600 some more details on what really may have happened on 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.920 your Meditanean date's coming up right after this. 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.040 Brook and Jeffrey in the morning. 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:25.960 Second date updates, planning your next date in the middle 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:29.200 of your first one. And that's something that doesn't normally 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:33.240 happen unless you're really clicking and are both feeling excited 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.440 and vulnerable with each other. And that's what our listener, 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:39.320 Roman says happened when he met up with Haley for 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:42.840 dinner until a few minutes later, when Hailey suddenly got 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:46.440 a little quiet like, uh oh, why am I committing 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:48.680 so quickly to another hangout with this guy I barely 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:49.040 know him? 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:50.320 Yeah, that was definitely his read. 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.240 Yeah, Roman wasn't exactly sure what she was thinking, but 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:55.320 he did end up getting a kiss at the end 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.400 of the night. The weirdest part though, is since then, 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.880 she's been kind of rushing him off over and over 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.040 where he'll suggest a date and a time and then 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.440 she'll say, you know, I'll get back to you on that. 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:08.320 Yeah. 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.760 So it's been enough delaying where Roman has decided forget it. 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:15.000 I'm just gonna come to the radio show, get some 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:15.680 radio lance. 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:16.400 Remember. 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:19.120 Yeah, that's it. Well, yeah, that's his free trial. 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.640 I wasn't going to pay for more hinge coaching, so 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:22.360 here we are. 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:26.040 Did sound like it would have been worth your money. 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:28.000 Yeah, well it's still an option if we fail you Roman, 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:29.600 so you can keep that in your back pocket. 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.760 Yeah, I'll do my best. 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:36.280 I mean best case scenario is she is just busy 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.840 with other dates. Because you sound like a confident guy. 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.520 You sound like you're a guy that could be like, yeah, sure, 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:43.280 put me up against some other dudes. I'll win. 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:43.719 M h. 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:45.920 Yeah, I'm gonna be honest. I don't like that read 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:47.600 that's not well he should be getting. I really don't 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:49.000 want to compete with a bunch of other dudes. 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.480 Okay, okay, Well, trying to hype you up as like 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:53.680 confident guy. 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.880 Yeah, maybe just one other guy? Will you go one 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.320 on one with the dude. If he's smaller than. 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.760 You, be smaller. Oh sure, Well, we're not. 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:03.960 Beating people out either of you. 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:07.000 We're doing best case scenario, as you said, Brooke, I'm 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:07.720 on your page. 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:08.800 All right, let's just call it. 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.679 Okay, here we go. Hopefully it's something totally unrelated to 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:13.040 other dudes, but let's find out. 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:18.880 Hello. 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.200 Hey, my name is Jeff from the radio show Brook 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:25.600 and Jeffrey in the Morning. Is this Haley? 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:27.040 Yes? Who is this? 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.240 This is what I said at the start of the sentence. 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.560 Jeff from Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning, a radio show. 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.520 Okay, I didn't hear you your phone cut out earlier. 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:36.959 Who's why are you calling me? 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:40.000 Sorry that we've had very old phone lines here at 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.079 the radio station. They've been put in since like the 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:47.680 nineteen forties. So we got a dollar zero to get out. Yes, rotary, 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.720 but we're doing this segment. It's called a second date update. 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:56.000 I'm not sure if you're familiar with that. No, okay, 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.160 it's a newer segment than the nineteen forties. It's where 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:02.480 we try to help out are slightly. Yeah, we try 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:04.920 to help out our listeners if they've gone out on 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:06.800 a date with someone and felt like they had a 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.440 good time and they're confused why they're not getting a 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:11.480 call back. We can step in to try and get 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:12.280 them some answers. 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.480 I mean, who are you calling to me about? 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:17.440 Brook? 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.360 Do you want to say? Or have you've forgotten the person? 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:26.160 I'll step in. It's a very very close friend of 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:32.319 the show. Clearly, his name is Roman, that's it. Roman. Yeah, 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.280 he emailed us and we spoke to him a little 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:38.439 bit about your hangout at dinner, and according to him, 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:40.880 he said that you two got off to a really 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:41.760 strong start. 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:44.360 Yeah, I mean I think we did. What else did 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:45.400 he tell you about? Sayings? 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.200 Okay? 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:49.840 All good stuff from Roman? 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:53.360 Yeah, he said that you just were such a cool person, 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:55.160 really unique, beautiful bro? 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:58.920 Could you possibly be any more general with the description? Correct? 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:01.679 Do you have to say after our first meeting? Those 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:04.680 are pretty good reviews, Like you sounded like you both clicked, 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:08.360 like the boxes you were talking about future dates even that. 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:08.880 Was a good sign. 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:12.600 Yeah, that was honestly really awkward. I are weird in 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.680 the moment, Like I just couldn't believe that that was 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:16.160 actually something we were talking about. 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:18.640 Oh yeah, that's how Roman felt too. You felt awkward 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.720 about it. It was like, I don't know, idea, what 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:22.079 do you mean? 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.480 You couldn't believe you were talking about it is in 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:25.839 a good way. You couldn't believe it. 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:29.520 Well, I mean, it's not usually something you do on 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.480 the first day, and so it was just kind of no, 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:35.240 this is new, you know, kind of charring and it 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:37.280 made me definitely worry about some things. 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:39.880 So usually talk when you've been on many dates, it's 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:41.439 like your fourth date. Then you're like, all right, what 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:42.240 are we going to do now? 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:45.600 What we're talking about the next day? What were you 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.720 worried about? Like you said it made you worry. 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:51.559 I mean I just kind of didn't really know how 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.240 the next couple of months would look. And to have 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:57.560 that commitment chat on the first date, I was like, 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.080 I don't know really what to say. 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:02.960 Oh, like your life is a little sporadic, like your 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:04.960 job or something. No. 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.320 I mean, it's just that it's about to be wedding 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:12.400 season and I'm in a wedding and going to three others, 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.720 and I just kind of felt, am I gonna have 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.400 to invite this dude to all of these weddings now? 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:19.839 And if I don't is he going to be a 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:21.599 set Oh. 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:25.040 I mean Alexis would know. This wedding season is like 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:26.760 a whole thing. Most of my friends don't have money 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:31.119 for weddings. You don't even get a plus one anyway, Okay, dating. 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:32.920 You're like looking ahead, being like, is it going to 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.680 be awkward if I try to bring this guy around 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:38.240 all my friends and I don't meet your family member. 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:40.880 I mean two of these weddings are absolutely going to 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:45.000 have to meet my grandmother. So it's like, do you 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:48.320 just make this person who you just met have the 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:51.120 pressure of going to these things? Or am I going 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:53.680 to hurt their feelings? Like I just I kind of 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:55.480 felt like, you know, let's just wait till after the 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:57.000 wedding season is done. 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:58.520 This actually makes sense. 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.840 It doesn't say you can't bring an extra person. 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:03.840 But to a wedding season is done. Like how long 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:05.440 is that going to be? It could be five to 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.320 six months down the road that he would have to wait. 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:12.440 Yeah, but we're still talking, Like I'm still texting with 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:15.040 him and getting to know him. I'm just not I 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.120 just don't is he going to be my boyfriend at 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.320 this point? Like if you are a pressure on the 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:19.960 first day. 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:23.560 She's going to say something in sensible No, you're so 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.200 many steps down the road right now, like you're not 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:27.000 in the present. 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.000 That's how it made me feel. That's how the whole 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.360 thing made me feel, too, and that's why I was 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:33.520 kind of like, oh my god. 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:37.240 Okay, okay, so you're thinking that he's so many steps 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:39.839 down and you're not quite You're not you're not in 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:40.760 step with him. 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.160 I want to pursue this. I want to I'm talking 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:47.040 to him, I'm enjoying the conversation. I just don't want 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:47.520 the drama. 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:49.800 All right, This is definitely I don't think what we 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.679 expected to hear from you when we called you, and 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:56.359 it's certainly not going to be on Roman's radar, i'd imagine. 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:58.400 But let's find out, because he is on the other 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.080 line right now waiting to talk to you. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:07.839 You hey, have gone oh my god, Hi, Hey, I'm sorry. 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:09.480 If I made you feel like I was pushing things. 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:10.240 There really wasn't. 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:13.840 But no, that's the thing, though you weren't. It was 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:17.480 just the situation evolved so nicely that it just sat 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.200 kind of like, Okay, well here's the next step. And 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:21.960 that's a lot of pressure to put on somebody you 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:23.440 just met. 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:25.960 I could. I guess I could see where you're coming from. 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:29.920 I just why didn't you tell me about the wedding season. 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.760 Thing, because I don't know how to talk about that, Like, oh, 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:34.680 I like you so much, but I can't invite you 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:36.840 to these weddings because that might make you feel weird. 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:41.600 And that would have been okay, pretty sentence. 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:43.440 I feel like this would be a whole lot easier 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:45.400 if we had met in September at the end of 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:46.120 wedding season. 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.560 Sure, you waded through wedding season, but then after that 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:52.360 you're going to have to put pressure on him around 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:54.400 the holidays that are going to be coming up, and 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.160 that could be just as awkward, if not more awkward. 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:58.840 That is not helpful, Jeffrey. 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.920 I'm just going off of her line of logic. At 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.000 the end of the day, there is no perfect time 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:05.680 for you to start seeing someone. 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.400 That is true. There is no such thing as perfect timing. 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:10.160 I mean just just doesn't exist. 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.560 Unless you're talking about the end of March for that 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:18.280 one week, Yes, right after you've gotten over Valentine's right 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.520 before you get into Saint Patti's Day and all that stuff. 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:22.360 Non commitment. 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:24.880 I mean, I just wish Haley could hear herself, Like, 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:28.360 you sound so into this possible relationship. 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:30.400 I am, he's awesome. 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.880 Wow, it's gonna be so cute when you see him 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:35.560 in six months. 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:40.600 Who cares if he meets your grandma and then you 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:43.440 end up breaking up? Come on, Like, if you guys 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.120 don't even want to go to the wedding, why does 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:45.920 that even matter? 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:49.440 Though? Like, I don't understand my Grandma's gonna freaking love then, 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.840 Like I know that, and then she's gonna feel bad 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:54.160 if we don't work out. 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.080 Oh my god, there's so much pressure. 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.160 But what if you do work out? Like what if 0:15:58.200 --> 0:15:59.800 we looked at that angle instead? 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:01.280 Is that realistic? 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:07.720 Though? Life is sure? Bring them to all the weddings. 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:11.160 I mean, honestly, we're going to ask the question here 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:13.080 in just a second, but we haven't heard from Roman 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.720 in a little bit. So, Roman, is there anything that 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:17.280 you have to say to Haley? 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.680 Yeah? I hate that you're putting so much pressure on 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:24.080 yourself and us. I can work around your schedule and 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.120 it would make you uncomfortable for me to come to 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:27.880 one of your weddings. I just won't come. 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.640 Yeah, they're not her weddings at least, I don't think 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:35.680 I would hope not friends and family members and Grandma's there, you. 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:37.320 Know what, I just want to see her. So whatever 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:40.000 she feels comfortable with, however that works, I'm. 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:44.560 Good, h Haley. That could not have been a better response. 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.080 Seriously, So at this point, we would like to offer 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:50.760 to pay for your next date with Roman, whether that 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:54.280 happens next week or at the end of September, whenever 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.960 you're comfortable, we will fund it. If you say yes. 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.080 I would love to him again, and so if he's cool, 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.560 and we'll just take it day by day. I guess the. 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:07.360 Only way you can take it. 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.240 Okay, now to put a final stamp and seal on this, 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.159 can we get Grandma on the phone and get her 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:12.800 blessing to. 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:16.280 You'd never get her off the phone. 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.679 That's a true Grandma. Yeah, I love it. 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:24.600 Brooking Jeffrey in the morning. Isn't it ironic that wedding 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:30.040 season almost destroyed a possible love connection Today normally works 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:30.960 the opposite way. 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:32.679 I don't know. I think she just would rather go 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:33.640 single to weddings. 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:35.920 It is kind of more fun. Yeah, not to be 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:40.200 bogged down, but we wouldn't let a wedding destroy love. No, 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:41.359 not on our show. 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:43.679 And honestly, I think he sounds like the type of 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:45.400 guy that you could bring him to a party and 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.080 just be okay that he's there. You know, some of 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:51.200