1 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Colts Reunion Podcast, a conversation with former 2 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: Colts players look back at their career, what they're up 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: to now, and how the Colts played a positive role 4 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: in their lives. Hello, welcome to another Colts Reunion podcast. 5 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: I'm Matt Taylor. What's former Colts wide receiver and Ring 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: of Honor member Bill Brooks and joining us today for 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: our reunion as former Colts safety Antoine Buffet that they 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: drafted by the Colts in the sixth round of the 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: two thousand and sixth draft and right away came in 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: as a starter, helped the Colts win the Super Bowl 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: as rookie season named three Pro Bowls. Also played for 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, Cardinals, and Giants before retiring in 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: two nineteen, and Antoine is with us on the phone today. Antoine, 14 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: thanks so much for the time today. How are you. 15 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm doing well, man, Thank you for having me absolutely So. 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: Let's let's start with you first of all today. What's 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: what's going on with you today? What's life like for 18 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: you now? Being retired from the NFL for only about 19 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: three years or so? Man, life is good, you know. 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: Based on South North Carolina here with my wife and 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: my three kids, Man, and the three kids, you know, 22 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: definitely keeping us busy, um with school and their their activities. 23 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: Have a podcast now with another form of Coat Darius 24 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: Butler Demand the Man Podcast. UM. You know, I got 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: some businesses um in my hometown, and I'm I've been 26 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: deep into my my foundation. But they've family foundation, Man, 27 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: So keeping busy. Well, you are staying busy, quite busy, 28 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: you know. Uh, Antoine, you went to Howard University and 29 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: going into Howard University, did you ever think that you 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: make it to the National Football League playing in the 31 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: pros and for the Indianapolis Coats. I didn't, you know, 32 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: going to Howard University, I think, you know, my goal 33 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: at that time was just to be able to continue 34 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: to play UM after high school and get a free education. 35 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: You know, I think that was my my biggest goal 36 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: at that time. But you know, once I got to 37 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: Howard and UM started playing and I saw my play progress, Man, 38 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 1: I thought it could be become a reality. Well, now 39 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: that you made it to the PROS in your rookie year, 40 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: what was the biggest challenge for you going from Howard 41 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: to the Coats in the National Football League? I would say, Um, 42 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: The biggest silence was really off the field. You know, 43 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: that was really like, yeah, I would say off the 44 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: field for me because and not to downplay the level 45 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: of play there, but um, like I kind of try 46 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: to tell young guys, I'm like, man, football is football. 47 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: You gotta run, you gotta tackle, you gotta catch the ball. 48 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: Those are things that you know that kind of come 49 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: naturally to guys that get to that get to that 50 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: level obviously, you know, it's the terminology and learning the playbook. 51 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: But for me, I would say off the field, where 52 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: now this is kind of the first time of my 53 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: life where I'm having to pay my own bills, going 54 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: to get the groceries, going to get the cub, manage 55 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: my time wise. Um and then from there, you know, 56 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: you have you know, the folks that's looking from the outside, 57 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: they thinking that you're an instant millionaire. So being able 58 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: to have the um fend off the Yeah, the folks 59 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: that's coming asking for a lot of money, so that 60 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: that takes that that takes a lot out of you 61 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: when you're not used to that. UM. So I would 62 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: say that was one of the biggest biggest things for me, 63 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: were just handling the stuff off the field, and you're 64 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: only a twenty two, twenty three year old guy at 65 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: the time. I mean, you're still you're still a kid 66 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: having to deal with all of that responsibility right exactly exactly, 67 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: And again not to not to not to downplay anything 68 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: as far as on the field, but on the field, 69 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: that's kind of the that's your yeah's your getaway, you know, 70 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: when you're able to just to go out there and 71 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: just run around and do what you've been doing since 72 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: you was a little kid. Antoine, you were again drafted 73 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: in the sixth round in two thousand and six and 74 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: the Colts won a Super Bowl your rookie season and 75 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: you started fourteen games that season, again as a sixth 76 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: round pick. It's very very rare. How are you able 77 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: to come in immediately, break in right away on a 78 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: really good team and carve out a very prominent role. Man. 79 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: I think it was just, you know, the confidence I 80 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: had in my ability, but then also the confidence that 81 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: um my dB coach Olive Williams, coach Dungee Bill poland 82 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: what they what they had to me as well, and 83 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: that that was, you know, really that was the biggest thing. 84 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: And just going in there and just willing to listen 85 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: to the older guys, willing to listen to the coaches, 86 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: take the coaching UM, and just have a mindset of 87 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: you know, I just want to be able to go 88 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: out here and just impact and do whatever I can 89 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: to help this team win. And um and really for 90 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,119 Speaker 1: me six round draft pick, I'm like, look, special teams 91 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: is gonna be where I make my make my head, 92 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: you know, being able to go out there doing OTAs 93 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: and make plays. Um. You know I was fortunate enough 94 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: to be able to win that starting spot. Did you 95 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: have a I mean, I'm fast forwarding a ton here 96 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: at the end of your career. You play fourteen seasons, 97 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: three Pro Bowls, you want to Super Bowl. You accomplish 98 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: so much. Again, you came in right away and you started. 99 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: But throughout your career, did you have a chip on 100 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: your shoulder because you were a sixth round pick and 101 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: if you played at such a high level. I'm just 102 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: curious if if falling that late in the draft motivated 103 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: you and inspired you throughout your career to play at 104 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: a high level. Yeah, no, no doubt. Even though I 105 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: was blessing, I was gracious that, you know, I heard 106 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: my name called in the round. I still feel as 107 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: though it was because I went to Hogvard University, you know, 108 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: and I felt as if I played the way I 109 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: played at any other university or Power five, I think, 110 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: you know, it would have been different. But again, you know, 111 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: situation or situational, and I'm glad my situation was what 112 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: it was. You know, it could have turned out very 113 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: different for me. And that that chip of my shoulder, Yes, 114 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: it lasted the duration of my of my career for 115 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: different reasons. You know, that chip on our shoulder changed. 116 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: You know, Um the first the first year it was 117 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: because you know Howard University HBCU drafted sixth round. Um, 118 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: year nine, it was okay, I didn't get resigned by 119 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: the coach. I'm born to the San Francisco forty nine 120 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: ers to show that my still got something left in 121 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: the change. So for different times in my career it changed, 122 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: but I always had that chip on my shoulder. Never 123 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: wanted to be satisfied to what I did in the 124 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: past and looking at the president in the future. You know, 125 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: you said coming in as a sixth round pick, that 126 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: you listen to the veterans and you listen to the coaches. 127 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: Was there any one or a group of veterans that 128 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: you listen to that kind of took you under their 129 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: wings to help you navigate your way once you got 130 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: into the National Football League. Yeah, I would say three 131 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: guys that really kind of that's that stood out for me. 132 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: Like one was Robert Mathis, Um, you know, some similar 133 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: coming from an HBCU drafted in the fifth round. Um. 134 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: Then you go with Kato June. Cato June a sixth 135 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: round draft pick out of Michigan and was playing at 136 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: a high level. And then Gary Brackett. Gary Brackett a 137 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: undrafted free agent but played a pivotal, pivotal role on 138 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: our team and our defense. So those three guys were 139 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: the guys that kind of that kind of staying out 140 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: the most to me. Well, that's great. Do you keep 141 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: in contact with those guys right now? Oh for sure? Yeah, Yeah, 142 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, talk to the guys often. You know, I'm 143 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: good to see you know, Cato back on the staff 144 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: and you know, um, Rob, you know, he's doing a 145 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: lot um you know with his company and you know, 146 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: developing young young young men out there, and obviously, um 147 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: Gary doing great things in the community as always. So 148 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: still talk to those guys and a lot of guys 149 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: that was um that was on our team during that time. Yeah, 150 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: and like you said, Kato June's on the staff on 151 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. Reggie Wayne is the 152 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: wide receivers coach now obviously on the offensive side of 153 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: the ball. In Antoine, I mean again, you played at 154 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: such a higher level, accomplished so much, You speak the 155 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: game well, you discussed the game well on your podcast. 156 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: Did you have ever have any uh notion of getting 157 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: into coaching yourself after your playing career. Nah, I haven't. 158 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: I haven't, man, I just I gotta I gotta be 159 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: honest with myself, you know, just with you know, like 160 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: you said, playing fourteen years away from the family for 161 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: such a long time and putting so much into the game, Um, 162 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: I will be doing a disservice to to to to 163 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: my wife and kids at this time, I would say, 164 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: UM not not to say that, you know down the role, Um, 165 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: some may change or right now. I just know how 166 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: much you have to really put in, um to being 167 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: a coach and being a great coach on the time 168 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: that you have to put in being at the building. UM. 169 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: So I just think I'll be a disservice amount to 170 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: the to the family. But I uh, but the knowledge 171 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: I have do I do want to give that um 172 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: to the players. So you know, maybe that could come 173 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: in a different role, maybe here in the near future, 174 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: but I definitely do want to give back to the game. 175 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: You know, you said you have a lot of knowledge 176 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: for the the game. What you do. You have a lot 177 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: of knowledge of the game, and you play the game 178 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 1: at a high level. In in in order to play the 179 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: game at a high level, you also have to look 180 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: at the things that you do well and things that 181 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: you don't do well. What are some of the things 182 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: that you wanted to work on during the off season 183 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: to help you improve your game getting ready to go 184 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: into a season in the National Football League. I would 185 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: say for me it was always and like you said, yeah, 186 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: you have to be your harshest, your hardest critic. You know, 187 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: you obviously you want to go and say, Okay, I 188 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: do this well, But to your point, you gotta go 189 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: into every season and with at least three things that 190 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: you could work on. I know one for me always 191 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: was I can get better I'm tackling and just the 192 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: way the game was maturing, it was a lot more 193 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: open field tackling for the safeties, right, like, so how 194 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: can I work on my angles? How can I work 195 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: on you know, coming to um, coming to balance when 196 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: I'm tackling. And then obviously the rules were changing as well, 197 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: so UM head placement and things of that nature. One 198 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: thing that I always I still kick myself to this 199 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: day is just you know, turning the ball over like 200 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, punching, stripping, UM, catching the ball, you know, 201 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: when the ball gets to you, being able to capitalize 202 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: on those moments. And then obviously you know, just on 203 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: the X is an old side, UM, not really having 204 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: to worry about the defense, just doing the defense on 205 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: like the back of hand, but just studying the game, 206 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: what offenses like to do in certain situations. So that 207 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: was really the biggest thing, UM two minute situations rays 208 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: don't um you know after a toner or what the 209 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: offense is like to do. So just really UM buckling 210 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: down on the exs and olds and understanding the game. Yeah, 211 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: you know, you're talking about doing different things on the 212 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: football field as far as making sure the xs and 213 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: os and and tackling as well. Which player gave you 214 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: the hardest time as far as in in regards to 215 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: you having to tackle him in the open field as 216 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: the running back was the wide receiver, or was it 217 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: any one particular individual that gave you a tough time? Man? 218 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: It was I always talked about how to like I 219 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: would I would say running backs, because you know, obviously 220 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: every week you're gonna you gonna deal with a with 221 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: a tough running back. But you know sometimes you know, like, okay, 222 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: this running back is really a speed guy, so you 223 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: know he gonna try to outrun you, or you're gonna 224 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: have a big back who's gonna try to you know, 225 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: run you over. But I'd say for me, um playing 226 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: in the post, you know, coming down and trying to 227 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: tackle a back in the open field. The tough the 228 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: tough guys were the guys that were elusive, Um that 229 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: were elusive, that could that could sick you, that could 230 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: run by you, but also was big enough to run 231 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: like really get behind his pass. And early in my career, 232 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,479 Speaker 1: Fred Taylor was kind of one of those guys, UM 233 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: where he could put his foot in the ground and 234 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: he could run by you, or to my point, he 235 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: could you know, play behind his pass. So I would 236 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: say if Freddie t was one one of those guys. Um, 237 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: and obviously you know receivers. You know, you're dealing with 238 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: a Calvin Johnson, a big guy like that, who can run, 239 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: who can go up get the ball. Um. Those type 240 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: guys were were were really dangerous. Yeah. I mean that 241 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: that Fred Taylor, that that analogy that you use right there. 242 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I just remember that Jacksonville game. What your 243 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: rookie season antoine down there, and then I mean, you guys, 244 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure just use that as motivation throughout the rest 245 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: of the regular season. And then you guys were just 246 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: epic in terms of stopping the run of the playoffs 247 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: and route to the Super Bowl Championship. Yeah. Man, that 248 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: game was ugly, Fred Taylor and Maury Jones drew many 249 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: they almost made it to the Pro Bowl. Off for us, 250 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: that definitely we definitely used that as motivation. I think 251 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: that entide. Yeah man, I run defense was it wasn't 252 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: good at all. Yeah. But um, but again, like you said, 253 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: we got to the playoffs. Man, we was able to 254 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: get one hour you know, key keys tributors back Bob 255 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: back during that time, and we was able to make 256 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: a go run doing that playoffs. You know, we talked 257 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: with Marlon Jackson earlier this offseason for one of these 258 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: similar podcasts, and we asked him, and I'm just curious 259 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: because you guys came in kind of the same time. 260 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: He in two thousand and five, yourself in two thousand 261 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: and six, and that defensive secondary. When you first got 262 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: to the Colts, they were rolling right, I mean, winning 263 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: AFC South Division championships every year, going to the playoffs. 264 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: I mean, your entire career with the Colts, outside of 265 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: one year two eleven, you made the playoffs every year 266 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: except for one during your time in Indianapolis. So when 267 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: you first dropped into the Colts locker room and you're 268 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: in the same room with guys like Marvin Harrison, Marlon Jackson, Reggie, 269 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: Wayne Peyton Manning, Dwight Freeney, Gary Brackett, when you're looking 270 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: around at all of the great players as a rookie, 271 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: how did that make you feel? What was that like 272 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: being in the locker room and on the same team 273 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: with so many great players at the time. Man, you know, 274 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: you gotta think about it, like just a few a 275 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: few months before. Man, I'm at Howard University and these 276 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: are guys that I'm looking on. I'm looking at on TV. 277 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: So it's a lot of emotions. It's it's one it's like, man, 278 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm here, I made it. And then it's like, you know, 279 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: kind of starstruck. And then it's like I gotta get 280 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: out of that. There are my teammates now. So it's 281 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: a lot of emotions. But then, you know, one thing 282 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: you always heard, whether it was um, you know you're 283 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: watching watching them, watching the games and these guys are playing, 284 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: or you hear something about um coach Dungee, or you 285 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: hear something about Bill Polian, it's like, it's the culture, right, 286 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: And as soon as you stepped footing that building, you understand, 287 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: like it's a culture. It's a reason why they're winning. 288 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: It's a reason why, Um you know, you got a 289 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: bunch of future Hall of famers on that team. And 290 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: in the snap of the fingers, okay, I gotta I 291 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: gotta buy into this culture. You know, if I want 292 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: to be a part of this, I gotta buy in. 293 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: I gotta be a part of this. So um, you know, 294 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,239 Speaker 1: stepping into that locker room and it's a it's a 295 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: vary the different emotions, man. But again, man, I was 296 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: blessed to be a great situation, walk into a great situation. 297 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: Now you talked about you walk into a great situation 298 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: with Indianapolis coach and you want a super Bowl your 299 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: first year. Is there any other special moment about your 300 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: time here in Indianapolis that stands out for you? Man, 301 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: I will um, hey, I think it was. It was 302 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: a few. It was a few, you know, winning the 303 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, UM, get my first Pro Bowl, NAB my 304 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: second year, UM, winning the Walter Payton Man of the 305 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: Year there and UM in India as well, for the 306 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: community work, um, and you know all of those things. Man, 307 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: I think I think those are some of the times 308 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: that you you think it's gonna last forever. But then 309 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: now you know, like you know, being retired, you kind 310 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: of look up look back on those times to say, man, 311 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: we had a great time. And then just the relationships 312 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: with the guys, just still keeping in keeping in communication 313 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: with the guys, you know, helping bullet drop powells, the 314 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: guys that come in and you know, we still have 315 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: that bond in that brotherhood. So rules are like the 316 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: things that and Bill, you know, like those the things 317 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: that you really really miss about the game. You know, 318 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: obviously you missed the competition, but you really don't miss 319 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: getting beat up on weekend and week out. But you know, 320 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: being able to sit in that locker room and joke 321 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: and laugh with guys, fly on that plane and go 322 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: to different guys's hometowns, or participating in that camps. Like 323 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: that's what you know, I miss a lot and just 324 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: you know, having that brotherhood and having that Camarado antoine 325 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: was what was practice like in that era? You know, 326 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: we always heard Peyton and Marvin talk about practice, how 327 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: intense it was, and how on some levels, practice was 328 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: a lot harder than the games. Did you share that 329 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: same sentiment in terms of practice really kind of ramping 330 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: up and the game's sort of coming easy to you 331 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: in a way because you were so prepared and you 332 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: were so organized heading into Sundays, Oh, no doubt, you know, 333 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: tell oriented, And you know that's what all the coaches preach. 334 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: That's what you know, all the players preach like, you know, 335 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: we we have to know what we're doing, but we 336 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 1: also got to know what the other team is doing. Um, 337 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: you know, we always think about you know, when I 338 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: went to other teams, you know, we would redo plays 339 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: and coach Dungee, you know, every now and then you 340 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: will redo a play. But it's like, you know, it's 341 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: no reduce doing the game, you know, so we gotta 342 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: be perfect. We gotta be we gotta be on point. 343 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: And again when you name the guys that was on 344 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: the opposite side of the ball when we're going in 345 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: training camp and going against the offense, you know, you 346 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: got Paid Manning at quarterback. You got Marvin Harrison, you 347 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: got Reggie Wayne at the wild house, you got Dallas 348 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: Clark at the tide of end position. And you look 349 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: during that time, all those guys, the top five guys, 350 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: top three guys at their position. You know what I'm saying. 351 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: So for me as a safety or just a defender 352 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: in general, now, how how much harder can it get? 353 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: You know, no disrespect to anybody else, but how how 354 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: harder can it get? And then just knowing how much 355 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: work they put into it to want to be perfect, 356 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: and really them already knowing what we're gonna do. So 357 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, if if Peyton already knows like we run 358 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: a ton of cover too, like and he knows where 359 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: the holes are gonna be, just gonna make us work 360 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: that much harder to try to get to the ball, 361 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: So like when Sundays came. Not to say it was easy, 362 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: but it was doing the week helped us out a lot. 363 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: I would say that, well, that's good. I mean, it 364 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: sounds good that you know. It seems like those guys, 365 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: the older guys, helped up the younger guys with the team, 366 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: and you guys had a lot to go buy and 367 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: you had a lot of accountability within that locker room. 368 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: And to pick it back on that, if you can 369 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: give one some advice to some of the young guys 370 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: coming out right now, what would that advice be to 371 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: these young guys as far as trying to make the team, 372 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: trying to fit into a new team, a locker room, 373 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: and how to navigate their careers throughout the NFL for 374 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 1: their whole career. I would say it's UM. A couple 375 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: of things that I would say, UM, first and foremost, 376 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: you got to control what you can control, UM. And 377 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: that's your work ethic. That's how hard you're going in practice. 378 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: That you that's you studying as you knowing the exs 379 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: and ohs um, that's you keeping your nose clean, staying 380 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: out of trouble. Control what you can control. UM. So 381 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: at the end of the day when it's cut day, 382 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: if you've done everything that you could do, UM, then 383 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: you can walk out of there. Whether it's you know 384 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: you being on the team or not. You can go 385 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: out there with your head hanging high. But if you 386 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: go if you get cut because you didn't know what 387 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: to do, UM, you was missing missing curfew, that's on you. 388 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: Another thing is, like you said, accountability. You gotta hold 389 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: yourself accountable, accountable, but you got to hold the guys 390 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: around you accountable as well. That's the way you, UM 391 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: you're able to play a long time. UM. And one 392 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: thing about about the players, it's it's being being consistent, 393 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: being consistent. I think that's why one of the things 394 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 1: I tell people about my careers, I feel as though 395 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: I was consistent throughout my career. I think all the players, 396 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: all my teammates, and all my coaches knew they were 397 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: gonna get on Sundays, Mondays or Thursdays or whatever it was. Right. 398 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: Coach A Williams, he used to say it all the time, 399 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: if you're a player, I need a player all the time. 400 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: If you need if you're a B player, I need 401 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: to I need B play all the time. And if 402 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: your average, be average. I don't need a guy that's 403 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: gonna be a BC. I just don't know who I'm 404 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: gonna get. So if you can, if you can be consistent, 405 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: you can hold yourself accountable. If you control what you 406 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: can control, man, you have a good shot. I have 407 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: a great career in the league. Yeah. Staying with that though, 408 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you played fourteen years, but you only miss 409 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: fifteen games in the regular season of your entire career, Antoine, 410 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: And you hear guys say all the time, you know 411 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: that they're most proud of their availability and answering the 412 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: bell every single Sunday. What was your secret to play 413 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: all of those years and staying healthy more often than 414 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: not for all sixteen games during the season. Yeah, like 415 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: you said, your your best ability is your availability. Um. 416 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: And you know, first I had to say it was 417 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: it was some luck. It was some luck UM mixed 418 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: into that. But then you know, like I said, like 419 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: you know, being at to control what you can control 420 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: and taking care of your body. Right, So that's you know, 421 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: getting the proper amount of rest as you know, hitting 422 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: the weights. UM, that's you know during the off season, UM, 423 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: really getting it in UM. Because I felt as though, 424 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: that was the time that you really were was able 425 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: to get your body, um in shape. You know, when 426 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: you when you didn't have practice where where you could 427 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: just kind of focus on just getting your body right. Um. 428 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: You know during the season, you know, still in the 429 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: weight room, eating right, getting rested, uh outside of the building, 430 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: getting your massages or whatever you needed to do, um 431 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: to say, to stay ready. And that was, um, that 432 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: was a thing, just trying to be consistent and then 433 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: obviously just having to play through some things. Um we 434 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: all know, you know, once we hit that training camp, 435 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: nobody's one hundred percent healthy, and you know, against just 436 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: that having that accountability. I know, my guys are accounting 437 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: on me to be out there. So if I had 438 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: to play through something, I had to play through it. 439 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: But if I could, um control what I could control 440 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: as well as put putting the proper things in my 441 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: body and taking care of that, That's what I was 442 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: going to do. Antoine, I want to go back a 443 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: little bit if we can talk about that that changeover 444 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: in leadership in twenty twelve with the Colts. You know, 445 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: Ryan Grigson, Chuck Pagano come in. There's a lot of 446 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: changeover in the roster that year, Andrew Lux drafted t 447 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: Y Hilton, Um, yourself, Reggie Wayne, Robert Mathis, Dwight Freeney, 448 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: Adam VINATAI. You guys were like the holdovers from one 449 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: regime to the next, and you did such a fantastic job. 450 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: I remember that was my first year, you know, working 451 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: with the Colts. So being in the locker room with 452 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: you guys, there's no doubt, you know, the entire roster 453 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: look to you guys, you know for leadership. Do you 454 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: remember that that twenty twelve season and the challenges that 455 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: you face going from from one era to the next, 456 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: so to speak. Yeah, you know, like you said, new gym, 457 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: new head coach, coach uh you know Ryan Grigson coach 458 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: for Gano. UM. But to your point, man, it was 459 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: about the locker room, you know, and we still had 460 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: that foundation of what those guys built before I even 461 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: got there. UM. So when you look at the organization, 462 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: you look at their UM I would say, their success 463 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: or their failures. You can look at the just the 464 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: foundation from them from the top to the bottom, you know, 465 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: because we're all scaled, we all have great players, but 466 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: it's about that foundation. And Monday the Monday through Sunday. 467 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: You know how the guys relate with one one with 468 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: one another off the field. Um, so we still had that. 469 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: So all the younger guys had to come come in 470 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: and do is follow suit and again put their best 471 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: for four you know, Um, and I think we were 472 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: I think it was done the right way. You know, 473 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: you had your leaders, You had your guys who will 474 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: come in and help in the young guys. Or they 475 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: had to do was you know, look at what the 476 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: older guys were doing. So it mess it messed well, um, 477 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: and it turns out it turns out well there for 478 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: full full half second. Yeah, like we talked about earlier. 479 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: You know, two thousand and eleven obviously was a outlier season, 480 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: not only for the franchise but your career. Two and fourteen, 481 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: you know, that was the Peyton Manning next season and 482 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: all the drama that surrounded that. But in two thousand 483 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: and twelve, eleven and five, you guys make the playoffs, 484 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, eleven and five, you win the division. And 485 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: going into that two thousand and twelve season, you know, 486 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: I remember it very vividly. You had the power rankings 487 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: that people put out in the off season the Colts 488 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,719 Speaker 1: were dead last, and you guys make the playoffs. In 489 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: fact again in two thou twelve and two thousan thirteen 490 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: eleven and five seasons make the postseason. How much pride 491 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: did you take in that personally, going from one era 492 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: to the next, being able to still play a higher 493 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: level and still succeed not only as as a player 494 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: but as a team in those first two seasons, UM 495 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: in a new era and you know, a new head 496 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: coach and a new defensive coordinator. Man that was important 497 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: to us. UM. Like you say, you know power Rank 498 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: has had his dead last And as much as players 499 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: say we don't read the news clip things and we 500 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: don't listen to it, that's a lot you know, we 501 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: see those things. You know, so um so being able 502 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: to come come in and and make the playoffs both 503 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: for those years to your to your point, you know, 504 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: having a rookie quarterback, having a young roster UM again, 505 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: that that speaks volume on UM the locker room and 506 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: speaks volume on the guys. He just speaks volume about 507 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: the culture so UM as a player, as an organization, 508 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: as a city. UM. I know we we were we 509 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: were later about that and so I'm curious. You know, 510 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: you just retired not too long ago, and I want 511 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: to know when you watch football games now, do you 512 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: watch the games as a fan and just enjoyed the 513 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: game as it is, as it presents itself, or do 514 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: you watch it as a formal player? Are you breaking 515 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: down things, looking at the receivers where they line up 516 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: at and what they're gonna do or how how are 517 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: they going to run their route to what the offense 518 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: is trying to do. Do you look at as a 519 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: fan or do you look at it as a formal 520 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: player like you're in a meeting room. It's both, it's both. 521 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: You know, I cast my time, just wanted to enjoy 522 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: the game, but then it sounds where like, you know, 523 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: crucial moments, it's like, okay, they lined up this way, Oh, 524 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: I think they're about to do this, or um or 525 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: their motion in this guy, you know, just trying to 526 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: call plays out and you know, looking at the defense, 527 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: the defense as well, trying to see what they're doing, 528 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 1: how they're trying to stop stop guys. But it's definitely 529 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: both on both ends as a fan and as a 530 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: as a formal player trying to break down a film 531 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: all right, Antoine, last one for me. As you said earlier, 532 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: you're in the media now, so to speak with the 533 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: Man Demand podcast. It's a great podcast Former Colts defensive 534 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: back Darius Butler and I love it because it's it's 535 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: just two guys, but it's educated guys. Two former players, 536 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: two former defensive backs. You're talking about the game of 537 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: football from different angles. Talk up the pod. How did 538 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: you get into it and how much are you enjoying 539 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: doing it now? I appreciate that. Yeah, the Man, the 540 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: Man pod Man. We're live on Mondays and Thursdays at 541 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: eleven am. UM. Like you said, myself and Darius Butler, UM, 542 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: we obviously during the season we speak on all football. UM. 543 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: Even the off season, we were speaking on on all 544 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: things football. UM games, matchups, the overs, the unders, UM, 545 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: the good, the bad, the ugly. UM. You know as 546 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: falls you know right now you know it's it's big 547 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: NBA playoffs, So we're talking about all sports. And then 548 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: we you know, we talk about UM life in general. UM. 549 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: You know, two UM African American men in this world. 550 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: Things that you know we go through. UM we're fathers 551 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: as well. UM, so we just talk about all things 552 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: UM life you know, it's to the point of the 553 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: title of the podcast, Man the Man, Um, and we 554 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: start all that than doing doing COVID. You know, doing COVID, 555 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: we had ample time on our hands, Um, sitting in 556 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: the house. Yeah you know, Um, and you know we 557 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: just saw the song and say, hey, man, we should 558 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: you know, we should, we should cook up a podcast 559 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: and see where it takes us. Man. So it's been 560 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: i would say, in two years. Yeah, two years. Um, 561 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: and I'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying it, man. So we're 562 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: just gonna see where it takes us man, and and 563 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: just keep enjoying the rod. Yeah, it's it's very successful. 564 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: And now I listened to it, you know, very religiously. 565 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: Like you said, it drops every Monday and Thursday. The 566 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: Man Demand Podcast Antoine Buffet Darius Butler. Where can people 567 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: find it? Just search Man Demand pod and then on 568 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: most podcast platforms it should show up correct exactly exactly 569 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your podcasts as Spotify, uh, you 570 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: know Apple. We're on YouTube as well. So I'm typing 571 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: the Mand de mand pod man and it should pop 572 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: up there you go, that's Antoine Buffet. Man, It's it's 573 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: so great to hear your voice. It's awesome to have 574 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: you back on as a guest and relive some of 575 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: those magical moments in Occult's uniform number forty one back 576 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: in the day. Antoine, thanks so much for the time, 577 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: continued success both professionally personally, and have a great summer 578 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: coming up. Man, I appreciate it. Man, you've baged up 579 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: to be safe.