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Speaker 1: up to capture audio. Fascinating anyway, I digress. So there's

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Speaker 1: so much going on within the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Within the next couple weeks. We recorded this interview a

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Speaker 1: little while ago. His name is Carell. You might know

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Speaker 1: him as the slut Whisperer or the ambassador and creator

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Speaker 1: of a brand called Assholes Live Forever. All that sounds

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Speaker 1: I think that he had some interesting things to say,

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Speaker 1: and I'll just leave it to you and you'll get

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Speaker 1: it was quite long. Not that I took out anything bad.

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Speaker 1: I just took out like kind of rambling stuff. But Diamond,

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Speaker 1: what did you think of it? You're not urt my feelings? Well,

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed the conversation, but it was more of like

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think we should just get to it

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Speaker 1: kind of there's one thing I sort of came around on,

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Speaker 1: and I might agree with him over about well see

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Speaker 1: either way, here he is Caryl. All right, I have

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Speaker 1: with me somebody who I met at a party and

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Speaker 1: guy on my podcast. So I invited you to be here,

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Speaker 1: and now we have Carol also known as Carol was here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: or the slut Whispers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I'm surprised that I'm allowed in the building.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, tell me about why you feel that way.

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Speaker 2: Oh, so, I have a very great history with this company.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I've lived many lives. First life, dropping out

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys remember it's like eighteen

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Speaker 2: Clear Channel and I started doing all the graphic design

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Speaker 2: as a freelancer. And the logo before the logo you

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Speaker 3: And the fucking thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh wow, And I did that in maybe two

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Speaker 3: It's like two thousand and seven. Everything.

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Speaker 1: Did we just pay you to do it once?

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Speaker 3: Or yeah? I think I got Like I could look

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Speaker 2: I think I got maybe two grand, Okay, but I

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Speaker 2: But I was like, wait, this is not enough money

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Speaker 2: And then I used to shoot photos afterwards because I'm

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Speaker 2: also a photographer at the PC Richard and Sun Theater.

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Speaker 2: I was the first photographer in that building shooting all

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Speaker 2: your private concerts. So I have photos of Bieber when

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Speaker 3: I was so out of my league.

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Speaker 2: Dude, like way out, Like I just got a camera

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Speaker 1: Okay. So we just sort of got a brief history

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Speaker 3: I'm just annoying, I think. No.

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Speaker 2: You know that the Instagram name is slut Whisper. So

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Speaker 2: So some people were like, oh my god, he's a

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Speaker 1: That's my LinkedIn I have, Like I knew you, not

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Speaker 3: So I heard about this, dude.

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Speaker 2: This is such a weird night because it it was

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Speaker 2: because who likes bad press. So what happened was yes,

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Speaker 2: I did a party in Hoboken, as I normally do,

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Speaker 2: Well because from the outside view, everyone's like, this guy's

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Speaker 3: Went out? Right? Should a cop finger his wife in

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Speaker 2: There's so many levels of publican decency I see every

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Speaker 2: Like, I'm just like, dude, I want you so bad

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Speaker 3: It was socially acceptable. But it's not.

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Speaker 1: I'm just laughing at the whole fingering concept. I don't

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Speaker 3: Me, Well, fingering is like it's like eighth grade.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but it's just doing that as an adult at

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Speaker 2: literally that's how much I love you, Like, I don't

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Speaker 1: An interesting spin to put on it. I don't have

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Speaker 2: That was a public display of affection really, just modern

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Speaker 2: Was a probably? I mean we all were. That's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, we were drunk. What do you think happens

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Speaker 1: I've never seen someone get fingered on a bar. I've

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Speaker 1: seen some crazy stuff, I have not seen that one.

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Speaker 2: You've got to look, Okay, I guess you're right. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: you don't even realize what's happening. You many girls could

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Speaker 1: Do, just plenty do. I'm saying I have actually witnessed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Why do they lose their liquor license?

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Speaker 3: Good dude, because you can't have that happen.

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Speaker 2: Sex and alcohol don't usually mix legally, or I just

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Speaker 2: think it's just a baby. In New Jersey, there's got

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Speaker 2: to be some nudity laws. Like New York, you're allowed

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Speaker 2: you know it's politics. I'm sure like enough press gets out,

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Speaker 2: the mayor's got to get involved, and someone's like, yo,

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Speaker 2: Like we have expensive real estate here, we can't have

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Speaker 1: Did anyone ever come after you specifically for this? Did

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Speaker 1: and then I was it.

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Speaker 2: I think I might have like lost one gig because

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Speaker 1: Were you how did you start down this path? Because

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Speaker 2: People started booking me in other nightclubs all over like

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Speaker 2: of Twitter. What for? I got in a fight with

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Speaker 1: And then you got deleted. Yeah, looking back at it,

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Speaker 2: I mean, here's the thing. Yeah, I'll tell you that

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Speaker 2: was like, as an artist, no, I shouldn't be deleted.

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Speaker 2: But as a business owner, you're like, like, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: Twitter's like, I'm who care? Get rid of them?

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Speaker 3: Right? Like they don't care?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Like Twitter doesn't give.

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Speaker 2: Like when I think about me getting kicked off Instagram,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I totally understand. Like if I was the

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Speaker 3: I'd be like, yeah, I don't care, Like, why don't

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Speaker 3: need this? A slut whisper? What is that? Get rid

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Speaker 4: I don't want this, so you understand why.

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Speaker 3: I totally get that. It's a business, and like I

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know what I mean, and you're okay with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like herpees, you know, you can't really, you

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Speaker 2: can't really get rid of me. I'll find my way back.

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Speaker 2: The craziest part is I had so many names and

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Speaker 2: then I finally was like, I give up my last name.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be slut Whisper. And that's the one that's stuck.

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Speaker 2: no nothing, because nobody wants a slut Whisper sign. Even though, yes,

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Speaker 2: it's just an off putting name because right, which is

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Speaker 2: a great way to have conversations and arguments with people

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Speaker 2: people like, dude, you're on the face called slow whisper,

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Speaker 2: right like this this is like what do you like

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Speaker 2: We're really going to have like real discourse here.

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Speaker 1: You seem to have your head wrapped around this in

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Speaker 1: people would say, no, you can't ban me. F that

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Speaker 1: I'm taking myself very seriously. I'm an entrepreneur, I've done

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Speaker 1: I'm here to fuck around and it's fine and it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I talk about you just have to okay.

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Speaker 2: So also, you know you're just calloused, right, Like how

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Speaker 2: many how many Instagrams have I lost? How many times

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Speaker 2: have I been kicked off? So you still need like

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Speaker 2: every journey's up an uphill battle, right, Like are you ever?

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Speaker 2: Like everyone's still working? Like even people who you're like,

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing now?

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Speaker 2: They deleted me after the I think the Netflix documentary shined.

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Speaker 3: Too much of an eye on me.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Netflix. Yeah, okay, American Meme, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 3: That's okay.

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Speaker 1: So what was it that you think from that got

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Speaker 2: No, I think it just got me kicked. I think

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Speaker 2: it just got kicked me off Instagram because it's just

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Speaker 2: like shine too much. It just put too many eyes

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Speaker 2: on me. The American Meme was the greatest thing that

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Speaker 2: Everyone that documentary is very famous. It was like Emily Raderkowski,

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Speaker 2: it was like Paris Hilton, DJ Khaled and then like

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Speaker 2: Because I was like, I don't go to funk about

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Speaker 3: Us, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So it did the most for me because the weight

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Speaker 2: And then when it was on Netflix, this was like

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Speaker 2: Netflix was like it made you and then.

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Speaker 1: It all went away, and then it all went away.

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Speaker 2: Overnight to zero boop kicked off and you're like, okay,

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Speaker 2: so let's just figure this out.

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Speaker 1: How does it feel to go from everything to zero?

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Speaker 1: Did you panic? Did you freak out?

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Speaker 4: When you?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: How did you find out?

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 4: I didn't know?

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Speaker 3: We didn't, dude.

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Speaker 2: I was I was getting a this, I was getting

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Speaker 3: I just got kicked off Instagram.

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Speaker 2: But it happened so many times in my life that

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Speaker 2: I was like, all right, we'll get it back, we'll

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Speaker 2: figure it out, right, well whatever, We'll take a week off,

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Speaker 2: I'll come back like, hey, look, you know they can't

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Speaker 2: kill us, right that comeback post probably will do better

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Speaker 3: Being online for a week anyways. And then it just spanned.

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Speaker 2: You know, we had like a bounty out forever on it,

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Speaker 1: Did you get an alert you've been kicked off Instagram?

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Speaker 1: How does that? Because it hasn't happened to me, I'm shadow.

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Speaker 2: Band, No, no, no, I mean I think we're all shadow

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Speaker 2: band at this. I mean I don't know what you

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Speaker 2: post that's like out of pocket?

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Speaker 1: Well they think that my Instagram name because it's maybe

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Speaker 1: hot sauce. They think it is close to some sort

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Speaker 1: of child pedophilia, like a pedophilia ring.

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Speaker 3: I'm not kidding, Like the internet's so soft.

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Speaker 1: That's my shadow band story. It's exciting, not as exciting

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Speaker 1: as yours.

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Speaker 2: No, but I mean, like, why can't we all That's

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Speaker 2: why I understand if I have a following, Fine, don't

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Speaker 2: show me to new people, but fucking show me to

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Speaker 2: my people, right right? Like why am I being like

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Speaker 2: I don't find don't I can live in my own

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Speaker 1: How many times does this happened to you?

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Speaker 3: Twenty?

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Speaker 1: So we could sort of tell this as a story

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Speaker 1: of resilience, yes, coming back?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's such a dumb thing because like my

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Speaker 2: grandfather went to war and this is what I do. Right,

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Speaker 2: You're like, what a soft like Like I say, the

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Speaker 2: internet soft, but like what a soft man?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: Look at these hands, they all like these are just

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Speaker 2: twitter fingers, right like that done?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what does your family think about all this and

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Speaker 1: what you do? Did she explain it to them?

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Speaker 2: So my parents so we're Russian immigrants, right, so my

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Speaker 2: like what real suffering could be. You know, I didn't

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Speaker 2: have a banana to like he in America, Like, we

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Speaker 2: just didn't have a bunch of shit.

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Speaker 1: Right, when did you come to America in nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 3: I was six?

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Speaker 2: My parents love the arts like I got. We go

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Speaker 2: to Broadway, like, they love comedy, They love all this shit.

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Speaker 2: So then when I chose to pursue this, yes, it

442
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Speaker 2: scared them because they're Russian immigrants and education so important immigrants,

443
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Speaker 2: and I dropped out of college. This was like what

444
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Speaker 2: the was the first person in my family not to

445
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Speaker 2: attend a school. But when it comes to like what

446
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Speaker 2: I do, they don't view it negatively. They just think

447
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Speaker 2: it's funny what.

448
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Speaker 1: You portray to the world. Is it a character to them?

449
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Speaker 1: Or are they like, no, that's really what he's like.

450
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Speaker 2: No, it's exaggerated, yes for the internet. But it's like

451
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Speaker 2: I still kind of thoughts are in my head, right, they.

452
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Speaker 3: Make me laugh.

453
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Speaker 1: Do you think you're a misogynist?

454
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Speaker 2: No, I think I'm a modern day feminist. Explain that

455
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Speaker 2: or just a real feminist, because you know that argument's

456
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,680
Speaker 2: just so like everyone's like, oh, curly misogynist I'm like, well,

457
00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,080
Speaker 2: the what's misogynsts about letting a woman choose what to

458
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Speaker 2: do with their own body? And if that choice is

459
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,080
Speaker 2: to have champagne poured on it, why is that, all

460
00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:21,600
Speaker 2: of a sudden not her choice anymore?

461
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

462
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Speaker 1: I like it. I think a modern day feminist is

463
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Speaker 1: an interesting way to put it.

464
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Speaker 3: I think so I love women. Who doesn't. I mean,

465
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Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot. I know a lot of people.

466
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people out there right now with

467
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Speaker 1: a lot of big ideas about women and how they operate.

468
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Speaker 1: And I think that the whole you getting banned for

469
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Speaker 1: getting into an argument with a youtubur for whatever reason.

470
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Speaker 3: Yeah, for a fat joke.

471
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Speaker 1: For a fat joke. Do you remember what the joke was?

472
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

473
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Speaker 1: What was it?

474
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Speaker 2: So I tweet you know this, dude, this is such

475
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Speaker 2: a dumb joke, and it was it was the best

476
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Speaker 2: way to go out on Twitter. Ok okay, if I

477
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Speaker 2: can be like, all right, I got kicked off Twitter

478
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,640
Speaker 2: for this, Like I'll take it. I tweeted something like, hey,

479
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Speaker 2: I have no problem with fat people until their fatness

480
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Speaker 2: is an inconven means to me, Like if you're spilling

481
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Speaker 2: over in your seat on a plane onto me. Then

482
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Speaker 2: I have a problem with you. I even at this girl.

483
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Speaker 2: I don't know how she saw my twe that was

484
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Speaker 2: the tweet. It's the tweet. I got no problem with

485
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Speaker 2: you until it's up on top of me. I don't

486
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Speaker 2: know how she found it. I had a little bit

487
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Speaker 2: of a following, but not like her. She writes back,

488
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 2: don't worry, honey, or something like that, I fly private.

489
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Speaker 3: I was like, damn, it's a great roasted It's great.

490
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Speaker 2: It is great, Like I love that, Like that's such

491
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Speaker 2: a great like that's what I would say if I

492
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Speaker 2: flew private. And so I was like, well, I can't

493
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Speaker 2: not chirp her back because I'm like, clearly she's got

494
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Speaker 2: a little bit of sense of humor about this. And

495
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Speaker 2: I said, I know, I saw the movie, and then

496
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Speaker 2: I posted the movie post. I've ever seen the movie

497
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Speaker 2: Operation Dumbo drops? Were they airlift an elephant?

498
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, See the diamond is dying. She's doing it quietly.

499
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Speaker 1: She's dying in the dude.

500
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Speaker 2: A funny jokes, Just a funny joke. Every joke has

501
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Speaker 2: a victim. Let's take suicide. I got kicked off for bullying,

502
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 2: but because then her fans were like, oh my god,

503
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

504
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Speaker 3: I was like, fuck, well.

505
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Speaker 1: Okay, So let's this is an interesting thing, especially at

506
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Speaker 1: this time in American history. Freedom of speech. Yes, how

507
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Speaker 1: far do you feel it should be allowed to go?

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Speaker 4: I mean, isn't the where's the line?

509
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Speaker 2: I think there's no I mean there's no line, because

510
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Speaker 2: I think the concept is freedom of speech is there

511
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Speaker 2: to protect speech you don't like. But sorry, that's just

512
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Speaker 2: kind of part of that freedom part, right, like just

513
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Speaker 2: because you know what I mean, Like if someone doesn't

514
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Speaker 2: like rock music, do they get to make a.

515
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Speaker 3: Choice for all of us?

516
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Speaker 2: Right?

517
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Speaker 3: It's such a personal taste, so.

518
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Speaker 1: You don't draw the line anywhere because like, what about

519
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Speaker 1: when it comes to be cause I'm.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like nothing related.

521
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Speaker 4: It takes a lot.

522
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Speaker 2: I don't know what would offend me. And maybe this

523
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 2: is obviously a straight white male, privileged kind of situation too, right,

524
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Speaker 2: But like all right, fine, even if you put in

525
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Speaker 2: the jew card in there, if it's funny, that's even better.

526
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Speaker 2: But if it's not, like I don't.

527
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Speaker 1: Know, I mean, I guess I can't say nothing offends me.

528
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Speaker 1: I've definitely seen some comments where I'm like, oh, gasp.

529
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Speaker 1: That hurt my feelings a little bit.

530
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Speaker 2: I don't know hurt my feelings is like that's just like,

531
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Speaker 2: oh yeah, damn that like I have nothing to say about.

532
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 2: Like if someone just posts on like you're fat, I'm like, damn,

533
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Speaker 2: I didn't want.

534
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Speaker 3: To see that today. But he's right. But that's the thing.

535
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Speaker 2: Imagine if you had on check power, you'd be like,

536
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Speaker 2: no more fat jokes.

537
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Speaker 3: Right, that's right.

538
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Speaker 1: That's kind of getting to.

539
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're getting to like some dictator shit, which is

540
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 2: you know, a company can, theoretically, I guess, run like that.

541
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Speaker 2: Like we said, right, Instagram can choose who to delete

542
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,880
Speaker 2: based on who they want. But I think the whole point.

543
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Speaker 3: Of where we live is we could just we should

544
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Speaker 3: be able to say anything and we can face the

545
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Speaker 3: consequences for it.

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Speaker 1: But like so, when it comes to hate speech, because

547
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Speaker 1: this is where I get torn about things, I wholeheartedly

548
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Speaker 1: believe people should say what is on their mind, what

549
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: is on the hurt, Go ahead, say it. I want

550
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Speaker 1: to know from somebody.

551
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Speaker 3: I'd rather know your people.

552
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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you hate Indian people, I don't want to

553
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 1: frequent your business, So please, by all means, go off

554
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Speaker 1: and say it. At the same time, now with this

555
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Speaker 1: rise of social media and everybody just diving into it

556
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 1: like balls deep, it is interesting to watch the influence

557
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: that it has on a younger generation that never grew

558
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: up without it. And it is interesting to see what

559
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 1: appears to be very hateful rhetoric spreading like wildfire. And

560
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Speaker 1: because we live in a country where there is free

561
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Speaker 1: speech it being allowed, you wouldn't step in anywhere and

562
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Speaker 1: be like, yeah, no, that might be a little too much.

563
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean we live in these echo chambers, right,

564
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,479
Speaker 2: Like before a person with crazy thoughts hopefully thought they

565
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: were alone. Now you're like, oh, I can find my people, right,

566
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,719
Speaker 2: and so now it's now you're just like, oh, well,

567
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 2: this must be true.

568
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 3: We must be right.

569
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Speaker 2: And most conspiracy theorists, obviously or whatever, people in those

570
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 2: like extreme fringe groups believe they're always right like I do.

571
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 3: Like entropy.

572
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Speaker 2: I love when shit breaks down, and it's kind of

573
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Speaker 2: interesting to watch society crumble that we get to live

574
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 2: through that. But I'm such a I'm such a like.

575
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Speaker 2: I believe in the good of people so much. I

576
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 2: believe someone's good before I believe there. I'll give you

577
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Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt.

578
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Speaker 1: Okay, how does that affect your thoughts on?

579
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 3: Oh, so here's my thing, here's my thing.

580
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 2: I believe in the good and people, and so for now, yeah,

581
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 2: I guess if everyone wore what they believed on their shirt,

582
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: it would really make me sad because right now I

583
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 2: walk down the street and I'm.

584
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Speaker 3: Like, oh, look at all those good people.

585
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 2: But then if I'm like, oh shit, that's what that

586
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 2: guy thinks, and that's what that guy thinks, maybe we

587
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: have too much like maybe yours right, Maybe we have

588
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: too much freedom of speech in terms of free Maybe

589
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 2: we have too much freedom of expression. We're all pieces

590
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Speaker 2: of shit, right, like and luckily history dude, you don't

591
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: know fucking Leonardo da Vinci like raped a bunch of women, right,

592
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: we don't know any of that shit. So it's like

593
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 2: it lets us kind of romanticize humanity and maybe that's bad,

594
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: but you know, but in the end, like you'd be

595
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Speaker 2: surprised how many people downstairs?

596
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: How many how many murderers do you think you shake

597
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 3: hands with? Oh?

598
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: I think about that all the time.

599
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: Right, how many disgusting human beings have you shaken hands with?

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Speaker 3: Where you're like, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think about that even when it comes

602
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Speaker 1: to just taking pictures with people. Because somebody comes up

603
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Speaker 1: to you and they're like, oh my god, I love

604
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Speaker 1: you so much. I want to take a picture with.

605
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Speaker 1: You're not going to say no, say yeah, for sure,

606
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 1: you don't know what that person is up to.

607
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: Then on the news the next week, what about how

608
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 2: many famous people you've taken a picture with? And then

609
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 2: one in a million ends up fucking Diddy and then

610
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: you look like fucking You're on Epstein's Island, right Like,

611
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Speaker 2: It's just it's crazy.

612
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Speaker 1: We have too much information, which I say this all

613
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Speaker 1: the time. I think the amount of information we have

614
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 1: is almost akin to having no information, because you can

615
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: find something to support any crazy thing that you have

616
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: to say. It doesn't matter what it is, you're gonna

617
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: find your little echo chamber of people who say, yep,

618
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Speaker 1: I agree with that thing. I just there has to

619
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Speaker 1: be a breaking point at some place with this. It

620
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Speaker 1: feels that we're sort of getting there. Technology moves faster

621
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Speaker 1: than regulation does. I'm not sure what should be regulated

622
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Speaker 1: or not be regulated. You seem like you're in a

623
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Speaker 1: position where you've experienced both sides of this, and you

624
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: seem fine with it. But I just I look at

625
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: certain things, you know, like this rise of the in

626
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Speaker 1: cell is wild. Where's it coming from? And why? What

627
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Speaker 1: is what is all of this about? I know you're

628
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Speaker 1: not gonna have an answer.

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Speaker 2: For No, I think there are a lot of Well,

630
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Speaker 2: here's the thing. I think first of all, rising the

631
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: inseel probably comes to the fact that men no longer

632
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Speaker 2: have to engage in the art of conversation in person.

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00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 3: Right.

634
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 2: There used to be a thing we had to do.

635
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: Now I get to sit there like a fucking king

636
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 2: and look at my bounty and just go yes no, yes, no,

637
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: and then like.

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00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: I will talk about that later.

639
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just there's just it turned relationships and dating

640
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: into this kind of like algorithmic thing. And then and

641
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: suddenly these dudes who aren't getting laid, they're just mad

642
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 2: at that system. But like, go out, go talk to people.

643
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: Someone will fuck you, dude, trust.

644
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: Me, someone will fuck you firsthand.

645
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: Dude, trust me. I've gotten laid my entire life looking

646
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 2: like I look, I was going to.

647
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Speaker 1: Ask you when it comes to that when you did

648
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,959
Speaker 1: have the slut whisper tag and you were throwing these

649
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: wild parties and dolving champagne on people, and there was

650
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: a reputation that went along with that. Yes, did that

651
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: make it more difficult or less difficult when it came

652
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: to relationships?

653
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: It made it obviously more difficult, Okay, for obvious reasons. Right,

654
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 2: every girl friend you're with has to feel very comfortable

655
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 2: and the fact that you get to hang out with

656
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: boobs every night, but.

657
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: You know it a good boyfriend.

658
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 3: No, Okay, I wasn't. I wasn't.

659
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 2: And that in my twenties and you know, living in

660
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 2: New York and you know, you felt like a local

661
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 2: celebrity and the best part of being a party photographer

662
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 2: a photographer is he you're everyone's best friend. Right, Everyone

663
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: wants their photo taken, and then you have a gift

664
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 2: for them the next day or that night where you're like, yoh,

665
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: here's a picture I ticke of you. Right, there's just

666
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: there's like a crazier connection like a DJ. Arguably, I

667
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: think has an easier job because they get to stand

668
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: in one place and not be annoyed by people and

669
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 2: they can kind of control their environment. But I'm like,

670
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 2: I get to form a way stronger bond because I

671
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 2: get to kind of prowl around.

672
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 3: And have these little moments happen.

673
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 2: And I think photography also actually helps offen my brand

674
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: my entire life right as crazy as it is, like yeah.

675
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 3: But look at and people meet me and.

676
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: They hang and they're like, ah, he's nice, he's that

677
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 2: just a you know whatever it is.

678
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: Are you in a relationship now? Yeah, and you think

679
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: she's your Yeah, she's that's it, that's it, or you

680
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't be with it.

681
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. I'm done, dude. Have you

682
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 2: seen it out there?

683
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 4: Unfortunately?

684
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like if I was single, I would just be

685
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: a complete degenerate.

686
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 1: But I would imagine being a photographer at these kind

687
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 1: of parties would really highlight how crazy things are at

688
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: the moment. It also does feel like parties have completely changed.

689
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: Like the party where I met you. Yeah, I was

690
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: fascinated because there were so many influencers there, and all

691
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: of them were just so concerned about their phone and

692
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,479
Speaker 1: what they were doing and being in the bubble of

693
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: them that it didn't seem like a ton of people

694
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: were really interacting with each other. And I was kind

695
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: of like, am I the weirdo for being here with

696
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: a couple of my friends and cracking up laughing when

697
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: everyone else is so fucking serious and taking seventeen thousand

698
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: pictures at the same time.

699
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if you feel this, but I'm comfortable

700
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: in my life right now enough that I'm kind of

701
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: overfeeding the machine, Like I'm trying to unplug as much

702
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 2: as I can, Like I give social media the air

703
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: minimum now, and so I get to enjoy places Like

704
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: there's times I go out, I'm like, fuck, I didn't

705
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: even like post it. I went out today, And I

706
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: think a lot of people they're so caught up in

707
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: it that they're just they're just all they're doing is

708
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: making content.

709
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 3: It is disheartening because.

710
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: It's kind of grows, to be honest, Yeah.

711
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: Because it used to be just like a photographer and

712
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: a video guy captured it all for all of us.

713
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: And now every now everyone's got their own.

714
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: Perspective on it, and everyone thinks they're a perspective or

715
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: their opinion whatever it is matters so much that that's

716
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: I think, which.

717
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: I think you'd be a good dictator.

718
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: I would love to be.

719
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you give me dictator vibes because you're like, you're

720
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: very like, you know what, I don't think we need

721
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: any of these.

722
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: Opinions, not at all. There's too many, there's too much.

723
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: There's just a lot of shit going on that I'm

724
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: not a fan of. I would love to be a

725
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: dictator or a cult leader if.

726
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: I could, Well, well that I think a cult leader.

727
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: The difference is, I think you well, both definitely die

728
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 2: horrible deaths, but I think the dictator gets to live

729
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: longer than the cult leader usually dies with the cult.

730
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to do that, it is, that'd

731
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: be a good way to go. It just it was

732
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: a very strange thing that specific party because and I

733
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: also know that influencers were specifically invited to do that

734
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: and spread the word and do well.

735
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: That's the thing too now is that this is what

736
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: sucks about the current state of affairs. Is it used

737
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: to be like, hey, let's curate a fun party and

738
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: a fun vibe to how many eyeballs can we get

739
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: in here?

740
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: Right?

741
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: Like, oh, that person's going to add two million eyes

742
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: that present. Right, So now you have a room full

743
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: of people that necessarily shouldn't be hanging out together, but

744
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: you're just trying to maximize views and clicks instead of like, hey,

745
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: we need where the eccentric, like gay kids, right, like,

746
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,239
Speaker 2: I need forty of them there having a blast. Where's like,

747
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: you know, these guys and the punky and right, and then

748
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you have a dope party.

749
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: Speaking of the funny gay kids whatever, like the gritty

750
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: gay kids. You lived in LA for a while and

751
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: then you said that you hated it, so you moved

752
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: from LA, where I would imagine exactly what we're talking

753
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: about happens at a much crazier level right over there.

754
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: You moved from LA back to New York because you

755
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: hated LA. You were about to tell me why, I said, Zeba, stop,

756
00:30:58,760 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: I want to cat on the podcast.

757
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 3: Why did I hated LA?

758
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: Because I needed someone else to collaborate with constantly, and

759
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: LA people are very lazy, don't want to leave the house.

760
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: They don't adhere to schedules, So you're constantly looking for

761
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: stimulation from other people to try to, like, you know,

762
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: make content right like where you know, I run a

763
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: clothing brand, like I New York is great because the

764
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: city is the collaborator. I don't need to worry in

765
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: schedule models. I'm like, dude, I can walk the streets

766
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: in New York with my phone and probably fill it

767
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: full of content because the city's just so much more alive.

768
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: So much more fun, and the city is beautiful. The

769
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 3: city's fucking gorgeous. This is a great city.

770
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: Absolute said earlier. There's so much propaganda on New York

771
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: and we sort of talk about that too, like, yeah,

772
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: there are some crazy stories you're gonna hear, but for

773
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: the most part, they really sensationalize it, like.

774
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 3: Are you gonna get assaulted?

775
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, I get assaulted in I'll get assaulted

776
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: in California, but no one will see my body for

777
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: a week.

778
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: If I at least get assaulted in New York.

779
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, there's two thousand people that are gonna least

780
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,959
Speaker 2: be within vicinity to drag my body to help. Somebody

781
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: will will step in. Right, It's like I'd much rather

782
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: be assaulted here than in La.

783
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: What a way to say it. But this is I

784
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: do feel like the city is great. I don't feel

785
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: unsafe when I'm here. Oh, I don't feel like it's

786
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: collapsing into itself time, do you. She's born and raised Brooklyn.

787
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: So she's part of the appeal to cities that's a

788
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: little dangerous, right, Like that's kind of the fun part

789
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 2: of it, Like where all of a sudden like part,

790
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: you know, we're supposed to be New York is supposed

791
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: to be tougher, like Philly's scary.

792
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: Philly definitely has Philly.

793
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: Philly is a little scary sometimes, right, But New York

794
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 2: is great.

795
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: I just I was very fascinated by that article because

796
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: it was like, if you look at these places where

797
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: people used to hang out all the time and it

798
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: was like god, kids and artists and all these other people.

799
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: Now it's just every single person looks the exact same

800
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: with the slickback gun and the tiny hoop beerings and

801
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: they're all walking around with a ring camera trying to

802
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: kind of but they're not from New York.

803
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: Well, fame became accessible of a sudden, that's what it has,

804
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: or the prospect of fame. It seems a lot easier,

805
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: right to become a famous actor. You're like, fuck, that's

806
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: a lot of work, right, But now you're like, oh,

807
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: it needs a ring light and a phone and that

808
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: the barrier of entry is so and you can go

809
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: viral now for just having a long neck.

810
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: How much do you think fame actually helps you monetize

811
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: something and how often do you think you can make

812
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: something out of that? Because we see things go viral

813
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: all the time, because I think there's a reality that

814
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: exists there that a lot of people don't know about.

815
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: Well, there's a difference. I think when lightning strikes, it's

816
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: nice to have a library, right, Like I always say,

817
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: my friend's musician and he desperately wanted to have like

818
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: a hit out the gate, and you're like, dude, but

819
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: if you blow up with one song, do you have

820
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: no life library to like build anything off of. And

821
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: now the pressure is even higher because now you've got

822
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: to recreate that energy. Right, But if you won't go

823
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 2: viral on your thirtieth song, you could go on tour

824
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: the next day because now you have your fans can

825
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: look back at your archives, get fall in love with

826
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 2: your shit, and now you're like, oh, already, my muscles

827
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: are there. I've done thirty songs. I can keep releasing

828
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 2: shit the form like I just you know what I mean.

829
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: So I think a lot of people might go viral

830
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: too early and then it just disappears. I think if

831
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: you're consistent, you go viral, you can keep it.

832
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're suck in a box?

833
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I don't really I mean I

834
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't really have an A I don't know.

835
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: So you say you don't have an agenda. Well, so

836
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: when you lead up every morning and you're like, I

837
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: got a hustle, I gotta do something, like what is

838
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: your day?

839
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 3: Like a slow news day sucks because there's nothing to

840
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 3: make fun of.

841
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: I don't think there are slow news days anymore.

842
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: Well, there's slow news days when you make march okay,

843
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: like shit just won't sell, right, Like the Coldplay fucking

844
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 2: cheating thing. Great, we made a shirt that says I'd

845
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 2: rather be caught cheating than in a cold Play concert,

846
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 2: right like that was our response and went like mini

847
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 2: viral for arc thing and did well. So it's kind

848
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 2: of like you wake up, you start brainstorming ideas all

849
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: day and then you execute them and it's not a

850
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: glamorous life.

851
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: Are you comfortable? Do you feel like you have to

852
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: like you can coast on this? Do you think for

853
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 1: the rest of your life is going to think?

854
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no reason to not run assholes left

855
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: forever forever because A I'll always have something to say

856
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 2: about what's going on, and it might not be the

857
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: correct stance always, but it'll be a funny one. And

858
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: if it's funny, that's good enough for me.

859
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 4: Sometimes, look at the.

860
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: Very least, the political climate has to be great for

861
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: your brand at the moment.

862
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, except you know what, Like here's the problem is,

863
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: like it's still a business. And unfortunately, dude like Joe

864
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: Biden March just didn't sell. Like it sucks because the

865
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: left it doesn't.

866
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: Shop like that. They're not right or dies. They're not.

867
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 2: They're more of like, we don't really you know, they're

868
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 2: not like they're not like that. And so like anytime

869
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: you would do like a Trump shirt, you're like, god,

870
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: damn it, these people really they love that shit love it.

871
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: But hey you might as well make money off.

872
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 3: Of it if you're Yeah, I mean we make fun

873
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: of them a lot too.

874
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 1: Do those move?

875
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 3: Those move too?

876
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: But those get bought by like even like the fucking

877
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: magat crowds sometimes, And.

878
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 3: I mean it's weird. It's a silly The Internet's a

879
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: silly place.

880
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: How how do you deal with the trolls? You seem

881
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: like you probably just don't get shit.

882
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 3: I don't care.

883
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: You can just watch like as I will use it

884
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: for content if it's worthy of it, right, Like when

885
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 2: they send you like an email like I'm gonna burn

886
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: all my shit. I can't believe you support abortions and

887
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, and you're like, great, awesome, thank you

888
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 2: for I don't even need to think of a post

889
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 2: for today.

890
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 3: I'll just post that right.

891
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: Also, you already bought it. What do I care if

892
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: you burn it?

893
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,479
Speaker 3: Dude? That's people are so dumb.

894
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: It makes me laugh every single time when when they

895
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: burn their stuff. I'm like, but you already paid them.

896
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: It's not like you're paying residuals to wear it. No

897
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: one cares if you burn it, dude.

898
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 4: Donate it.

899
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: At least when you think about your career and the

900
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: things you've done in your life in general, Yes, you've

901
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 1: done something differently probably dude.

902
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: You know what I say? Then no one talks about

903
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 3: this shit, but like it's some part of me is.

904
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: Like I have a friend who works for like the

905
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: gas company since he was twenty years old, and he's

906
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: retiring in two years with two hundred grand a year

907
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: for the rest of his life. Oh, I'm like, I'm like,

908
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: fuck my life because you're just like damn. Like my

909
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 2: journey here was great, but now he gets to stop

910
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: and gets to do whatever he wants. And I'm like,

911
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 2: oh man, I got to keep being funny and weird

912
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: and silly to generate a revenue. But I guess that's just,

913
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: you know, the price we pay. But I don't know,

914
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: maybe maybe it would have been.

915
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: A life the way that you want to live.

916
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 2: It's I know, but it's just filled with a lot

917
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 2: more anxiety and insecurity.

918
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 3: And you know, it's just you never know.

919
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you're anxious and insecure? I, yes, yes,

920
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: I'm a neurotic jew.

921
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I'm very anxious. I hate being like late places.

922
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 2: I hate talking, I hate talking with lawyers, I hate

923
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: talking with accountants. I hate all forms of like emails.

924
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 2: I just don't like. Life just gotten complicated, didn't it?

925
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 4: It did?

926
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 3: It got so I used to just poor Champagne on girls,

927
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: I get paid money and go home.

928
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: Now you have to do it.

929
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, now, I'm like, God, God, So.

930
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: You would do that differently if you could. You would

931
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: really go back and be like, you know what, let

932
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: me get a job at the gas company and give

933
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: up everything else that you've had since you kind of

934
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: started this way, you would.

935
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: Go in that direction maybe who knows? Who knows.

936
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 2: I appreciate that answer, but you know what the crazy

937
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: part is is like I was talking to my best

938
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 2: friend about this, yes, sir, because he's having a kid,

939
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: and I'm like, dude, if I had a kid, I

940
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: would be that, Oh my god, I'm going to be

941
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: that parent that goes like, no, go get a real job.

942
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: Your arts are not like the way to go. And

943
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: I know that if my parents told me that, I

944
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: would have been like, shut up.

945
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: You don't know. Like I want to express myself. I

946
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 3: want to express myself.

947
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, dude, at forty one, I'm like, I'm

948
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: tired of expressing myself right, like for money.

949
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: So you wouldn't let your kid do what you do?

950
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: Would you let your kid go to a party that

951
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:05,479
Speaker 1: you threw?

952
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't care about any of that.

953
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 2: My mom has been to my party, my parents, everywhere

954
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: my family has been.

955
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: I was so when I initially wanted to have you

956
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: on the podcast, I was like, he probably has the

957
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 1: craziest stories. And I know that you definitely do obviously

958
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: have the craziest stories. But I've really been thinking about

959
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: getting into a podcast called the Cancel Club where people

960
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: who have sort of dealt with a lot of shit

961
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: or maybe even at some point got canceled. Okay, do

962
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: we give them a little shot at redemption? Should they

963
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 1: have been canceled? Because I think for the most part,

964
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: most people probably shouldn't have and.

965
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 2: I don't think you should ever lose your way of

966
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: I guess that once again, dita, no, right? And then

967
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, because my God complex says I know

968
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 2: what's right, right, so like just trust me, Like, yeah,

969
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 2: that person doesn't need that job, right, Like like bake

970
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 2: the fucking cake for the gay people?

971
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: Like what are you doing?

972
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: No, don't bake the cake for the gay people. But

973
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: everybody know that you don't want to cook for gay

974
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: people and bake for gay because I'm like, and then

975
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: I don't want to go to you. I'm not kidding me.

976
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 3: Money doesn't like he shouldn't even have a business, Like

977
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 3: are you kidding me?

978
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 1: So I was thinking, but you haven't really been canceled.

979
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: You've sort of just continued to rebound from all of it.

980
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 2: So I can't even say you can't get canceled when

981
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: you have no boss. That's the other thing, right, So

982
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 2: I always saw this like think about it this way,

983
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 2: Like could Louis c k he got canceled?

984
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 3: But does he really? Can he really get canceled?

985
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: Like not really because he's an artist of He's like,

986
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: he writes his own material, he performs his own material.

987
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: All he needs is a microphone. In theory, he would

988
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 2: always find his way back. If you're an actor and

989
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: get canceled, like dude, what do you do you? What

990
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: are you going to light your own set, film your

991
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 2: own like you know what I mean? Those people truly

992
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: could lose their way of life in some way. I

993
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: don't have a boss, Like, okay, you cancel me by

994
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 2: kicking me off a platform, like they just make another account,

995
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 2: and then can you still do that? Make more accounts? Well?

996
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: Because yeah, now I know like if I block someone,

997
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: I never used to block people, but now I'm like,

998
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 1: I'm the dictator of this page. This is not a democraphy,

999
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: I'll block you immediately, but it says block this person

1000
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: and any future account they make or other accounts they have,

1001
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: And I'm like.

1002
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I block a lot of people. Yeah, it's so much.

1003
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: I think you block someone because you said you told me.

1004
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: You don't get offended.

1005
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 4: Really, I don't.

1006
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 2: I just like because I know it ruins their day.

1007
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: A part of me just goes.

1008
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 3: I'll start.

1009
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 2: No.

1010
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 3: The best part is when you are you argue and

1011
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 3: then block before they can respond, or you restrict them

1012
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: so they can't. They're only talking to themselves. No, and

1013
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 3: sees their interactions. It's just fun.

1014
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: Like you're an internet past.

1015
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 3: I'm a dictator of my own I'm.

1016
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: A dictator for career. It is I say not everybody's

1017
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: opinion matters here. This is my page. This is where

1018
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: I come from, my happiness and what I want to do.

1019
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: I don't need these little people chirp.

1020
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: But it is nice when you get shirt because that's

1021
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: when you realize you've done something right. Like I think

1022
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 2: to me at the end of the day, true art

1023
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: is something that evokes an emotion, right, And so when

1024
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: you say something that bothers people, I'm.

1025
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 3: Like, you did it, that's good.

1026
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: Look at me in my art.

1027
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 3: That's good. You don't want people to agree with you

1028
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: always either.

1029
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 4: That's that's it's crazy.

1030
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 3: You annoy people all day. Oh yeah, what do you

1031
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: get shipped for?

1032
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 4: Oh?

1033
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: What's on? I get shipped for?

1034
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 3: What's your most controversial take.

1035
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: Controversial take? It's never really about a take either, It's

1036
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: just so I'm the newest into the show, Okay. I

1037
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: think that in general that tends to rub people the

1038
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: wrong way who have listened for a very long time, like, oh,

1039
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: what is this new person? Why is she there? What

1040
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: is she doing? I think that because I report the news.

1041
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: It's part of my job here. When people don't like

1042
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: a news story, they assume that that is me that

1043
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: created the news story, as opposed to the person.

1044
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 3: That's the message you and they're like, I heard you.

1045
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. Diamond said that the tide has turned.

1046
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: Are they still talking shit? I haven't a while.

1047
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh my god, why are they talking about?

1048
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: What are they saying about?

1049
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 3: You?

1050
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: Hold on couple over here? Annoying to just.

1051
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: I'm like whatever, Yeah, imagine shown up to these people's jobs, say.

1052
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's what do you do for a living?

1053
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: You flip the lame?

1054
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1055
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, it's it's at some point, sort

1056
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: of to your point earlier, where you're like you just

1057
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: sort of become immune to it. In the beginning, it

1058
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 1: stung a lot like when it first started to happen.

1059
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, why would somebody say that about me?

1060
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 1: Clutches pearls. This is so sad. And then after a while,

1061
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: it's like the difference between a tornado and the amount

1062
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: of deaths and a tsunami and the amount of deaths.

1063
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: When eleven people die in a tornado, you're like, holy shit,

1064
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: eleven people died. That's crazy. And then when twenty five

1065
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: thousand people die in a tsunami, you can't process that number.

1066
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 1: So it's just this wave pun intended I guess of

1067
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: nonsense that you're like, I can't even because I can't

1068
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: process it, it doesn't matter anymore.

1069
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I don't like this, but I like that

1070
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 2: you do have really good dictator mentality where.

1071
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 3: You're like, twenty five thousand.

1072
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 4: Deaths can't even what it can't process.

1073
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 3: That does not compute. But then like that's like my

1074
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 3: girlfriend and then she sees like a homeless guy with

1075
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 3: a puppy and she's like I need to save that dog. Right,

1076
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 3: She's like that dog is suffering. I'm like, there's read

1077
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: the news. It's like.

1078
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 1: You can't I can't process.

1079
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: Think about it this way? Do you really care people die?

1080
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 2: Like I kill so many people in traffic.

1081
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

1082
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: When I sit in traffic, I'm like, I wish you

1083
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: were dead, like the car in front of me if

1084
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 2: the guy doesn't make the left fast enough.

1085
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: Right, are you not an angry? Where are you from?

1086
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: Originally the family's Indian?

1087
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 3: Okay, but like where'd you live for? New York?

1088
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: Boston?

1089
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 3: Okay? Yeah, okay, so there's there's rage there.

1090
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 1: The meanest place I've ever encounter in my life.

1091
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: I love Boston.

1092
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: I love it too, but if they are mean, it's

1093
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: like the mean city and I appreciate it. I say

1094
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: all the time, like people think New Yorkers are mean,

1095
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: but they're not. I think New Yorker's are really efficient.

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00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: They will give you the directions, not talk to you,

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00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: not smile, not have like a little conversations, send you

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00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: on your way. In Boston, they will give you the

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00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: wrong directions. I think that that's like the difference. And

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Speaker 1: I love Boston.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's hilarious. I've never even thought of it that way.

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Speaker 1: They are. Think about all the people you know from Boston.

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00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: They're kind of assholes, massholes if you will. But I

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00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: love it and I'm some of my favorite people are

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00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: from there. But there's a big difference.

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Speaker 3: Do you get hate for betraying your city but not.

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00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: That's the hate that I don't care about. That's that's

1108
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 1: not real hate, that's not serious. That's not like, oh,

1109
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 1: you should lose your job for X y Z. And Also,

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00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: I think part of the thing here that might rub

1111
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: people the wrong way is I tend to be a

1112
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: bit of a dissenter when everyone is on one page.

1113
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: Oftentimes I just don't agree with it. And it's not

1114
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: specifically trying to be the devil's advocate or like fight

1115
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: with people. I just see things from a different lens.

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00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: Right, But it was also fun that creates a fun conversation.

1117
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: Haven't argue to appoint you. I'll commit to a point

1118
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: if I have to and find my way out of

1119
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: it somehow.

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Speaker 1: What is your hottest take?

1121
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 2: I once said, I don't like this is an old

1122
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: hot take that I don't like when we stand for

1123
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: the survivors of like a cancer at like a baseball game, okay,

1124
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: because I was like, they did nothing but survive, Right,

1125
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: That's not like we should be standing for the doctors, right,

1126
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: the people who actually helped write like people like you're

1127
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: such a fighter I'm like, it's in my body's just

1128
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: doing what's doing. Right when I get the hiccups, I didn't,

1129
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: I didn't call you know what I mean, Like, that's

1130
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 2: just my body being my body. So like, yes, I'm

1131
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: glad you're here. Maybe not, I don't even know. You

1132
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: might be a piece of shit first of all. But

1133
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: when they're like everyone's standing this is like everyone survivor's

1134
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: breast cancer, and you're like, yes, I got it. I'm

1135
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: glad you guys are here, but like the real heroes

1136
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: are the people that really saved you.

1137
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 3: You guys just got that.

1138
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I'm still standing clapp for the

1139
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: cancer survivors. I'm not in my head all the time.

1140
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, we thank modern medicine.

1141
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: Think yes, I think thank the people that that why

1142
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: you're here.

1143
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: Not you get on board with that.

1144
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 3: Okay, So there you go.

1145
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: All right, So people want to find if they want

1146
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: to find your merch, okay.

1147
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: So you can go to Assholes Lift Forever dot com

1148
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: or you might know the other version of the website

1149
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 2: is Linda Finegold. We had to make a woman we

1150
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: couldn't advertise as assholes Lift Forever, Okay, and then I

1151
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: just needed It's a long story.

1152
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 3: I'll tell you know the time.

1153
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 2: But assholes, if forever dot com my Instagram is still

1154
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: a slot whisper, I still have that. I have Carill

1155
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 2: was Here and then that's it, or I also have

1156
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: Carill again. Speaking of backups, so I have three, I

1157
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: have two. Hopefully this doesn't get me deleted, but you

1158
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: know I have two lifeboats. That's it, okay, And then my.

1159
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: Photography is just Carill was here dot com.

1160
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: So people want you to like show up and shoot

1161
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: their event, they just go to Carol dot com.

1162
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1163
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like a free agent where people hit

1164
00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: me up and I'll go shoot it if I think

1165
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: it's fun, okay, and will I take the money, probably,

1166
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 2: But I do a lot of free shit. I just

1167
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: want to I don't want to be tarnished by money

1168
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: right now. And instead of ten shit I really want

1169
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 2: to see and instead of being like, fuck, I got

1170
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 2: paid to go to this tonight and I should have

1171
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: gone to that that I.

1172
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: Really wanted to go to, which goes back to the

1173
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: earlier point about influencers. It's much more important to focus

1174
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: on what things feel like rather than what things look like. Yeah,

1175
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: there's been a big shift in that.

1176
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1177
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 3: Well, because it's so easy to make something look good,

1178
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: so easy, right.

1179
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: Okay, so people are going to come find you if

1180
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 1: they want to. Which one do you? Which one is

1181
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: the most important to you?

1182
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: I mean salt whisper go there. You know that's just

1183
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 2: come for the hajas. Okay, it's for the little little debate.

1184
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: So that's where you'll get the best content. You can

1185
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: get into arguments with people if you want to. Yeah,

1186
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: and I really appreciate you showing up to do the podcast.

1187
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.

1188
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. I was so fascinated by like what

1189
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: you're doing and what your adventure has been and your journey.

1190
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: I hate that word, but your journey has been so

1191
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: thanks for coming to talk about all of it. Is

1192
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: there anything that we missed that you wanted to talk about?

1193
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: No, I'm an open book. I feel like, Yeah, thanks

1194
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: for having me.

1195
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: Thank you. Okay, And that was that you want to

1196
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: know what I think I agree with him on. Everyone's

1197
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: gonna hate me for this. I don't even know if

1198
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: I should say it. I don't think Okay, I'm not

1199
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 1: going to I agree with him on something he said.

1200
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes people say things and they make you think and

1201
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: you're like, huh that maybe that is how we should

1202
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: be looking at things, all right, I'll leave that right there. Also,

1203
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: and maybe this is just like the whole next episode

1204
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: because I got some of the greatest ask me anything

1205
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: questions of all time, and I kind of think that

1206
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: maybe just you and me should do it because I

1207
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: thronest over here. I'm nervous. I know I'm debating, but

1208
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: we'll see. I'll show you some of the questions and

1209
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: then you can decide if you think we should do

1210
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: this as like a whole episode, because I would be dune.

1211
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say yes, but my palms will probably be

1212
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: sweaty the entire time these week. Arms are heady. Wait,

1213
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: palms are sweaty. Knees we yeah, you were right. Oh,

1214
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: arms are heavy. Why does that not make sense to

1215
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: me right now? Well, remember when you're feeling sick, like

1216
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: you just feel sumped over. I wish you could do

1217
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: what you just did now. Fair enough, Okay, if people

1218
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 1: want to find you online, Diamond, where can they find

1219
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: you at?

1220
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 3: Diamond?

1221
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 1: Since here on Instagram? I am at baby Hot Sauce

1222
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: on Instagram, Like, follow, subscribe, Thank you, so much for

1223
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: everybody supporting this. And by the way, Sauce on the

1224
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: side now has a whole Instagram page where you can

1225
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: go and see little clips or longer clips. Sometimes it

1226
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: make me live it because I hate the cameras so much.

1227
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: But aside from that, we're moving in a positive direction

1228
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: and I like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: All right, until next time, Say bye, Diamond Bye.