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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. On this episode, we have Lila Rose
Speaker 1: with us. She is the founder of Live Action. Check
Speaker 1: out the Lila Rose podcast and also her book is
Speaker 1: Fighting for Life.
Speaker 2: Ms. Rose.
Speaker 1: We live in interesting times, a lot of good stuff
Speaker 1: going on, a lot of bad stuff going on. We'll
Speaker 1: talk to you about all of it today. Thanks for
Speaker 1: making the time for us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1: So let's start with the Dodgers. I'm not a sports guy.
Speaker 1: I played sports, I like sports. I am somebody who,
Speaker 1: in my older age now no longer wishes to give
Speaker 1: any money or time to professional sports because well, a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of reasons I'm sure you can guess, and
Speaker 1: we could get into some other time. But even within
Speaker 1: the I don't care about sports realm, occasionally something comes
Speaker 1: up and I go, wow, now we do have to
Speaker 1: talk about this. So tell us about who the Dodgers invited, disinvited,
Speaker 1: and then reinvited for their Pride Night celebration, and what
Speaker 1: the stance is right now? Of at least one player,
Speaker 1: and how this whole thing is playing out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, so the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence is
Speaker 3: not a group of lovely nuns or Catholic sisters trying
Speaker 3: to serve the poor. They are a group of men
Speaker 3: drag queens who dress up as women and commit blasphemous
Speaker 3: sex acts using crucifixes and rosary. So there's this extremely
Speaker 3: anti Catholic, basically a hate group against Catholics. And this
Speaker 3: is who the Dodgers is. Beloved Team Los Angeles. Team
Speaker 3: decided to invite not just invite to Pride night Buck,
Speaker 3: but they chose to give them the Community Hero Award,
Speaker 3: And so they're saying that they are the community heroes
Speaker 3: and they need to be awarded in this way. And
Speaker 3: obviously this caused uproar from not just Catholics and not
Speaker 3: just Christians, but people in general, saying this group is
Speaker 3: specifically mocking Jesus Christ, who's considered God by the leading
Speaker 3: world's religions. I mean, imagine if this was done to
Speaker 3: an image of Mohammed. There was a group of LGBTQ
Speaker 3: activists who were mocking and committing sex acts on an
Speaker 3: image of Mohammed. I mean it would just be an
Speaker 3: all out It would be extremely scandalous and contentious. But
Speaker 3: because it's Christians, is fair game is kind of that.
Speaker 3: The Dodgers are active behaving as so. Anyways, they got disinvited,
Speaker 3: like you said, and then they got reinvited after a
Speaker 3: bunch of LGBT groups said how dare you disinvite this
Speaker 3: drag cream group? And so now we have continuingly doubled down.
Speaker 3: I mean, the Dodgers have not done anything they could.
Speaker 3: They gave them the award, they're giving them the award,
Speaker 3: and I think a lot of people are going to
Speaker 3: be boycotting future games.
Speaker 1: It seems overtly almost intended to offend for Catholics. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've seen some of the video, for example, of someone
Speaker 1: portraying the crucified Jesus and then having a drag queen
Speaker 1: do a strip tease. I mean, you know, this is
Speaker 1: about as offensive or blasphemous as I think it's could
Speaker 1: be expected to get, right. I mean, it's about as
Speaker 1: bad as anybody I think can imagine in some ways.
Speaker 1: But I also want to know why is being a
Speaker 1: drag queen is something that is now considered brave, Like,
Speaker 1: what is brave about a man who derives, based on
Speaker 1: what we knew about psychology at least for the last
Speaker 1: fifty years or so, sexual gratification for dressing up as
Speaker 1: a woman. This is brave?
Speaker 3: Why, right? And why do they need to exhibit their
Speaker 3: behaviors and sexual dances and provocative dances in front of
Speaker 3: children at public libraries? You know, why is it even
Speaker 3: a thing that we're talking about drag queen's story hours
Speaker 3: this even enter the publisation And who was the first
Speaker 3: person who thought, yeah, what children really need to see
Speaker 3: is adult men living out their fetishes in front of
Speaker 3: children to get their approval in our library system. But
Speaker 3: that's obviously where the debate is gone. And you know,
Speaker 3: the Dodgers doing this, it's like we've created this victim
Speaker 3: class that if you're a drag queen, you are you
Speaker 3: can do and mock anyone. You can be sexual in
Speaker 3: front of children, you can mock Jesus Christ, and everyone's
Speaker 3: supposed to say like, oh, you have the right to
Speaker 3: do that. It's nonsensical and I think there's backlash happening
Speaker 3: against it. I do think the Dodgers are going to
Speaker 3: suffer from this in the future, their reputation is tarnished.
Speaker 3: You know, one of their lead players announced on Twitter
Speaker 3: a few days ago, well, now we're going to have
Speaker 3: a Christian Family night. I forget the name of the player,
Speaker 3: but you know, as if to make up for Yeah,
Speaker 3: we just you know, spat on your religion and now
Speaker 3: we're going to celebrate your religion. I don't think anyone
Speaker 3: should go to that Christian family like night, by the way,
Speaker 3: because the Dodgers have already made clear where they stand.
Speaker 3: But I don't think long term, this extreme you can
Speaker 3: call it wokeism or gender ideology coming from these businesses
Speaker 3: is going to serve them. I do think. You know,
Speaker 3: Target had their LGBTQ pride sections in the front of
Speaker 3: all their stores. They had their tuch friendly bathing suits.
Speaker 3: I know you've covered this and talked about this, tuch
Speaker 3: friendly bathing suits for baby.
Speaker 1: We use a scientific term for this on the Clay
Speaker 1: and Buck Show, Lila, we call it a hot dog hider.
Speaker 3: Okay, very scientific of you. Well, I mean there's they.
Speaker 4: Say they're not Well, it's so crazy because they're saying, oh,
Speaker 4: it's not it's not targeted, right that you get fact
Speaker 4: checked by the way, buck, if you say that target
Speaker 4: is targeting children with these products, like literally, the AP
Speaker 4: fact checkers are going to go after you on Facebook
Speaker 4: and say or on Instagram, Oh, that's not what targeted.
Speaker 3: These weren't targeted towards children. The Pride it was a
Speaker 3: Pride onesie for your baby, and the tough friendly swimsuits
Speaker 3: were in a section next to children's gear, and they
Speaker 3: were they save size, extra small for the twelve year
Speaker 3: old boy who thinks he's a girl that targets now
Speaker 3: encouraging him to hate his body and hate his penis basically,
Speaker 3: so it's it's like where did we Where did we
Speaker 3: get here?
Speaker 2: So anyways, they're so this is new. I gotta I
Speaker 2: gotta make sure I get this right.
Speaker 1: My understanding from reading the news articles was that there were,
Speaker 1: you know, hide the man area stuff for adults, which
Speaker 1: I think is bizarre and twisted in and of itself.
Speaker 1: But it sounds like you're telling me and I had
Speaker 1: not heard this manynals before that some of the hide
Speaker 1: demand parts bathing suits were actually geared toward children or
Speaker 1: could be geared toward children.
Speaker 2: Is that right?
Speaker 3: They were in sections with children, so right next to
Speaker 3: the baby onesie and the toddler clothing is a swimsuit
Speaker 3: which size extra small would absolutely fit a twelve or
Speaker 3: thirteen year old. And then one of the models wearing
Speaker 3: this swimsuit looks like a twelve or thirteen year old
Speaker 3: girl or could be a boy dressing, you know, presenting
Speaker 3: as a girl. So this to say, you know, the
Speaker 3: fact checker is saying that, oh, this is not target
Speaker 3: is you know, is children's over here? Adults target would
Speaker 3: never target children with these products. It's a total lie.
Speaker 3: They're targeting children. They're in unamong children's products. They use
Speaker 3: children child models for the for the garment. Is it
Speaker 3: an adult sizing? Sure, but pubescent children you know that.
Speaker 1: Are sure technically it's adult size, but obviously a smaller
Speaker 1: you know, a child could get the extra small and
Speaker 1: it's near enough that they might just say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: I'm I see, I see what's going on here. But
Speaker 1: I want to ask you that the deeper question, why
Speaker 1: do they want to do this? Why are they doing this?
Speaker 1: This is clearly I mean, I have an answer which
Speaker 1: I'm happy to share with you, but I wanted to
Speaker 1: know why you think they're doing.
Speaker 2: This because it is clearly you brought up.
Speaker 1: Why do they want to have drag queen story or
Speaker 1: why are they Yeah, Okay, what do you think the
Speaker 1: answer is? Because I think the answer is so disturbing
Speaker 1: that it's almost hard to speak about out loud. But
Speaker 1: I think people need to hear it more. What do
Speaker 1: you think is going on?
Speaker 3: I think one answer. I think there's a few things
Speaker 3: going on. One answer is that there's a desperate need
Speaker 3: when you are practicing a disordered sexual lifestyle, when you
Speaker 3: are at war with your body, you have a deep
Speaker 3: need for acceptance. You're looking for your identity and you
Speaker 3: want to be You want to find that identity. So
Speaker 3: you're going to blame when you're at war with yourself.
Speaker 3: Like if you're someone who has same sex attraction, you're
Speaker 3: going to say, well, I'm unhappy because of homophobia. Well,
Speaker 3: maybe you're unhappy because you're living a lifestyle where you're
Speaker 3: having sex with other men and you're a man. That
Speaker 3: will lead to psychological and physical unhealth for you down
Speaker 3: the line, But you want to blame exterior forces. If
Speaker 3: you're a person who struggles with gender dysphoria, you'll say, well,
Speaker 3: I struggle with gender dysphoria and I have all of
Speaker 3: these suicidal issues that I'm depressed or I'm anxious because
Speaker 3: society won't accept me. No, you're at war with your
Speaker 3: body and you need to make peace with your body
Speaker 3: and need medical health for that and psychological health for that.
Speaker 3: But if you can blame external forces, then you can
Speaker 3: say that external forces have the responsibility to support what
Speaker 3: you're doing, to support your gay marriage or to support
Speaker 3: your transgender identity. And then why wouldn't children have the
Speaker 3: responsibility as part of society to not be a homophobe
Speaker 3: or a transphobe. You know, why shouldn't we say, Yeah,
Speaker 3: children need to see two men kissing on the street
Speaker 3: the same the way that they would see their mother
Speaker 3: and their father. Or they need to see a man
Speaker 3: cross dressing the same way that they see a man
Speaker 3: or a woman wearing you know, their gender's clothing. So
Speaker 3: the natural consequence of lack of self acceptance and war
Speaker 3: with yourself wanting society to inform you because you have
Speaker 3: this deep psychological and health leads to forcing the children
Speaker 3: to get in line. I mean, I think that is
Speaker 3: a kind of complex, but that is the ultimate answer.
Speaker 3: I think there's also satanic stuff happening it's spiritual. I
Speaker 3: think there's sexual revolution consequences for that, but I think
Speaker 3: the core reason is you need the children to ultimately
Speaker 3: affirm you to continue to live in this depravity, because
Speaker 3: otherwise you're forever at war with yourself. You're looking for
Speaker 3: that ultimate affirmation.
Speaker 1: Also, I've been telling people this, and I think that
Speaker 1: this is hard for people to process. But the position,
Speaker 1: I know you know this, but it bears repeating for
Speaker 1: everybody who's listening. The position of the left is not
Speaker 1: that you can become a transgender woman. It's that you
Speaker 1: are a woman when you are trans in every way,
Speaker 1: which is the most blatant and obvious kind of lie,
Speaker 1: because in no way are you actually a woman, growing
Speaker 1: out your hair long, pinting your fingernails. And you know,
Speaker 1: I point out to everybody that Dylan mulvaney, Dylan mulvaney
Speaker 1: does not act like a woman. Dylan mulvaney acts like
Speaker 1: a caricature of a fourteen year old girl, and not
Speaker 1: even a good version of a fourteen year old girl,
Speaker 1: a caricature of a fourteen year old girl. Dylan mulvaney is,
Speaker 1: I think, in his twenties, but this all I think
Speaker 1: has been growing for a long time. And part of it,
Speaker 1: as I see it is the on a political level
Speaker 1: and really a mass psychosis level. If they can get
Speaker 1: you to affirm the most obvious untruth, then they can
Speaker 1: get you to say anything. And I think this is
Speaker 1: very common in the Soviet Union, that if you can
Speaker 1: debase people's and they did not just a Soviet Union.
Speaker 1: They do this in North Korea, they do this, they
Speaker 1: did this in Maoist China. Debase the most obvious things
Speaker 1: that you know to be true, and you are inherently
Speaker 1: destabilized and more able to be molded in other areas. Right,
Speaker 1: because if you can't say the most blatant and obvious
Speaker 1: things that you can observe yourself, well, then when someone
Speaker 1: else in authority tells you, well, this is true, you
Speaker 1: no longer have the psychological defenses to say no, it's not,
Speaker 1: because you've effectively been co opted into a massive lie.
Speaker 1: And then, without getting too deep into it, the point
Speaker 1: you made about something satanic or demonic about this? What
Speaker 1: could be more demonic than convincing children to generally mutilate themselves.
Speaker 2: For the rest of their lives.
Speaker 1: It's hard to think of things and that there are
Speaker 1: doctors and mds pushing this, that there is a desire
Speaker 1: to make this a standard. I mean, I truly believe
Speaker 1: I used to say this, Ellilah, that it's only a
Speaker 1: matter of time before you'll be considered a bigot as
Speaker 1: a straight male if you don't find a trans woman attractive,
Speaker 1: which you've probably seen this. This comes up acause they try,
Speaker 1: they'll float a trial balloon about this.
Speaker 2: Oh, but what do you mean.
Speaker 1: That's you're bigot at your transphobic and also the doctor's
Speaker 1: getting the gender of the baby wrong. Well, that's just
Speaker 1: the That is the end result of the overall ideology,
Speaker 1: which is that this is somehow both entirely changeable, and
Speaker 1: yet we're supposed to believe that it is ingrained from
Speaker 1: birth right, which is completely incoherent.
Speaker 3: Makes no sense, right, It's totally incoherent and it doesn't
Speaker 3: make sense. But you know, you see the catastrophe. I
Speaker 3: interviewed Chloe Cole recently, and I know you familiar with her,
Speaker 3: but she's nineteen years old and eighteen years old when
Speaker 3: she was fifteen. They give this perfectly healthy girl a
Speaker 3: double mass sectomy because she's having gender identity issues, and
Speaker 3: they say, well, now you're a boy. And then she
Speaker 3: de transitions at sixteen, and now she's telling her story
Speaker 3: and now they're saying, you know, they're mad at her
Speaker 3: for how dare you violate the cult? It's a basically,
Speaker 3: gender ideology is a cult. And if you don't believe
Speaker 3: the things that are totally illogical, and you don't stay
Speaker 3: and do what everyone else is doing, and you break
Speaker 3: free of it, then they give you the cult treatment,
Speaker 3: which is, we hate you forever. I mean, you're going
Speaker 3: to completely reject you. And that's what they've done to Chloe.
Speaker 3: But you know the other thing that's so crazy about
Speaker 3: this buck is that if a child can consent to
Speaker 3: changing his or her gender, Like if a child can
Speaker 3: decide at five years old that they're not a boy,
Speaker 3: they're a girl, and that they can decide to take
Speaker 3: puberty blockers and hormone blockers and then you know get
Speaker 3: you know, bottom surgery or chest surgery, which is basically
Speaker 3: their reproductive parts and retooling them to be a fake
Speaker 3: version of the other bodies part, you know, the opposite
Speaker 3: sex is part. If a child can consent to all
Speaker 3: of that, why can't a child consent to having sex?
Speaker 3: Right like why why can't a child have sex? And
Speaker 3: I think that's where this gender ideology takes you, is
Speaker 3: that it basically says children are sexual, children have autonomy,
Speaker 3: and they should be yet to make sexual choices. So
Speaker 3: why can't you be okay with pedophilia? And you know,
Speaker 3: there's a there's this thing of oh well, these conservatives
Speaker 3: are those those anti trans people, They're just so scared
Speaker 3: of pedophilia. They they see pedophiles everywhere. Yeah, because pedophiles
Speaker 3: are everywhere. There are pedophiles in our country, there always
Speaker 3: have been. And are we going to give them legal
Speaker 3: cover for their perversion or are we going to protect children?
Speaker 3: And that's what it does come down to at its core,
Speaker 3: what Target is doing. They are groomers. What these businesses
Speaker 3: are doing to promote pride products and transgender social contagent
Speaker 3: to kids. They are grooming kids for sexual exposure and activity.
Speaker 3: And it should be criminalized. And that's why obviously so
Speaker 3: many people are upset about it, and Targets share has
Speaker 3: dropped ten billion dollars in the last few weeks.
Speaker 2: You think it's going to keep going?
Speaker 3: I think so if people like you and me keep
Speaker 3: speaking on it, and if people like you and maybe
Speaker 3: not maybe not you, but definitely like me, stop shopping there.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you loved you used to love.
Speaker 1: To tell my wife, I've had to tell her no
Speaker 1: more targets. She used to love shopping at Target. This
Speaker 1: is a very common thing. So let's come back in
Speaker 1: a second. I want to I want to talk to you.
Speaker 3: What would you say, Carl Jean Los Angeles is a
Speaker 3: pro life brand. They have Target light clothes. There's alternatives.
Speaker 1: Okay, good to know. I want to speaking about a
Speaker 1: pro pro life issues in a second. But you know,
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Speaker 1: I have to ask you, I know a number. I mean,
Speaker 1: I work with some pro life organizations, have currently worked
Speaker 1: with one, and have with others in the past. I
Speaker 1: have a number of friends who have been very vocal
Speaker 1: in the pro life movement in media for years now,
Speaker 1: and this is what I'm hearing from a lot of them. Okay,
Speaker 1: if we don't back off six week abortion bends everywhere,
Speaker 1: basically we're going to lose every state and we're going
Speaker 1: to lose the presidential election in twenty twenty four. You know,
Speaker 1: every state election, I should say, and we'll lose the
Speaker 1: presidential election in twenty twenty four. This is a loser,
Speaker 1: we can't win with it. What do you say to that?
Speaker 3: Totally inaccurate. It's completely inaccurate. Look at Florida. Governor Desantas
Speaker 3: signs into law the heartbeat bill. He had fifty four
Speaker 3: This is a purple state. Susanta's had fifty four percent
Speaker 3: of Democrats in Florida support the heartbeat law. In Texas,
Speaker 3: Governor Abbott signs the heartbeat law into sends a heartbeat
Speaker 3: bill into law. He wins his reelection in an increasingly
Speaker 3: moving towards purple state. So you and then Governor de
Speaker 3: Santa's won in the landside. But you did a national poll.
Speaker 3: So there's a national poll that was done by Resmusen.
Speaker 3: It found that forty six percent of Americans nationally, of
Speaker 3: voting Americans Democrat and Republican, forty six percent said they
Speaker 3: wanted the heartbeat law, versus only forty three percent said
Speaker 3: that they opposed it. So this idea that Americans hate
Speaker 3: the heartbeat law is a complete lie. And in fact,
Speaker 3: like in Florida, even the Democrats at majority support the
Speaker 3: heartbeat law. So what I think that really is about
Speaker 3: Buck is there's a narrative coming from pro abortion people
Speaker 3: and some pro life people that are just scared and
Speaker 3: not being cowards, quite frankly, not being leaders who are saying,
Speaker 3: we're not even going to try. Roeby Wade is overruled.
Speaker 3: Now we can enact abortion bands. We're not even going
Speaker 3: to try because oh, we're going to lose. No, you're
Speaker 3: going to win like Governor DeSantis. Whin you're going to
Speaker 3: win like Governor Abbott one, if you're smart about it,
Speaker 3: if you're smart about how you message on it, if
Speaker 3: you'd communicate well, if you're proud of your position instead
Speaker 3: of being scared and like running from it every time.
Speaker 3: And then one other thing to note. You know, the midterms,
Speaker 3: people said, well, the pro life movement did so poorly
Speaker 3: in the mid term. So many candidates said poorly. Well,
Speaker 3: some candidates said poorly. Some prolitate candidates did wonderfully, like
Speaker 3: Governor DeSantis. But the point is in the midterms, we
Speaker 3: were outspent. The pro life side was outspent, they said
Speaker 3: up to thirty up to forty dollars to one dollar,
Speaker 3: between thirty and forty dollars to every one dollar because
Speaker 3: the Republican Party didn't even put the money in. They
Speaker 3: didn't even try. So. Yeah, if you run from the issue,
Speaker 3: if you don't message on the issue, and if you
Speaker 3: won't spend any money to support life, you shouldn't complain
Speaker 3: when your pro life candidate wasn't even very pro life loses.
Speaker 3: I mean Governor Or Oz, you know, Senate candidate Oz
Speaker 3: in Pennsylvania. He was doctor Oz. He was a horrible candidate.
Speaker 3: He was hardly prolact and they're like, oh, he lost.
Speaker 3: So you know, the Republicans are losing because of Roev
Speaker 3: Wade being overturned. That's not what happened. We have to
Speaker 3: change the narrative on it because it's just it's just
Speaker 3: not this is not the case.
Speaker 1: What do you think about President Trump's position that it
Speaker 1: should be left up and tie of the states, the
Speaker 1: federal government doesn't have a role.
Speaker 3: I think it's to splat out false. I mean, think
Speaker 3: about it this way. What's the number one goal, what's
Speaker 3: the number one purpose of the government, of the federal government,
Speaker 3: And it's to secure the common defense. But it's secure
Speaker 3: our constitutional rights. And what are our constitutional rights? The
Speaker 3: first right is what life? If you don't have life,
Speaker 3: you don't have any other rights. If you have a
Speaker 3: state who's not enforcing their homicide laws, they're purposefully leaving
Speaker 3: out a whole group of people. So the preborn children.
Speaker 3: Preborn children are human beings just like you and me.
Speaker 3: They should have equal protection under the law like you
Speaker 3: and me. Under the fourteenth Amendment, life doesn't begin at birth.
Speaker 3: It begins when the human life begins at conception. So
Speaker 3: these children deserve legal protection. If a state like California
Speaker 3: decides to not only not protect children in the womb,
Speaker 3: but to give lethal power to franchise, lethal power to
Speaker 3: the medical community to kill children for a profit, which
Speaker 3: is what they're doing, the federal government absolutely has a role.
Speaker 3: How could you say they don't. The federal government's job
Speaker 3: is to protect the fundamental human right, and if the
Speaker 3: states aren't doing it, they need to step in. So
Speaker 3: I think there should be a federal abortion ban, and
Speaker 3: I think that there's a lot of things the executive
Speaker 3: branch can do even without legislation. I mean, if we
Speaker 3: have a president in office whose pro life, they can
Speaker 3: ban the sale of abortion drugs. I mean, that's interstate
Speaker 3: commerce right there. That's easy to do. The FDA could
Speaker 3: just say we're not going to be distributing these lethal
Speaker 3: drugs to be used as abortions through there's some very
Speaker 3: concrete things that both the legislature federally and the executive
Speaker 3: branch can and should do.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, excuse me, I want to
Speaker 1: ask you about feminism in a second, which I'm sure
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Speaker 3: I'm a millennial millennial too.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're a millennial as well. I'm an old millennial,
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Speaker 1: So you know, I feel like I'm I'm not hip
Speaker 1: to like what the cool kids say, but I have
Speaker 1: some idea of what folks in their thirties are are
Speaker 1: thinking and how they're living their lives, and I just
Speaker 1: wonder when's it going to come across more that the
Speaker 1: promises of whatever you want to call it, postmodernist feminism
Speaker 1: lead to deep misery and unhappiness. And I think this
Speaker 1: is reflected and honestly, a lot of the data now
Speaker 1: about well women in their twenties and thirties, but also
Speaker 1: all the way down to teenage girls who are having
Speaker 1: the worst mental health crisis since I think they've been
Speaker 1: able to measure this kind of stuff with national polls.
Speaker 1: And is there a narrative that is to blame here
Speaker 1: or that needs to be adjusted?
Speaker 3: There is, And yes, you can blame modern and I
Speaker 3: consider it. You know what you could call it? I
Speaker 3: think you said postmodern feminism.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, they call it a lot of
Speaker 2: different things.
Speaker 3: But yeah, what does feminism mean today? To most people?
Speaker 3: It means the bad stuff, which is pro sexual promiscuity.
Speaker 3: Women are at war with their motherhood, women are pro abortion.
Speaker 3: I mean, all of that is nonsense and is the opposite,
Speaker 3: the antithesis of valuing what it means to be a woman.
Speaker 3: What makes women different? For men? We have the unique
Speaker 3: ability to be mothers. Men can be fathers. Do we
Speaker 3: champion motherhood in women? Do we champion marriage in women?
Speaker 3: Which I think most women deeply want a committed lifelong
Speaker 3: relationship as opposed to hookup culture. Yeah, that would be
Speaker 3: the pro woman message. But I think so many young
Speaker 3: girls are miserable. I mean, during COVID, the anxiety rate
Speaker 3: spiked for young girls. I think it's one out of
Speaker 3: every three young girls have considered suicide. I mean, it's insane.
Speaker 3: And I remember being a young girl and going through
Speaker 3: hard times and wondering what's my identity in my teen years?
Speaker 3: And it's even worse for girls today because I didn't have,
Speaker 3: you know, the messages young girls today. It has gotten
Speaker 3: so much worse in the last decade and a half
Speaker 3: that even when I was that age. So what's the
Speaker 3: source of it? Social media is huge, where the constant comparison,
Speaker 3: the con instant need to be perfect look perfect. I
Speaker 3: think that's part of it. A lack of connectivity to
Speaker 3: real world people, deep friendships, friendships and brings so much
Speaker 3: meaning in someone's life. Broken families is part of it, buck,
Speaker 3: I mean, so many people, more people are growing up
Speaker 3: without an intact family than not. You know, so many
Speaker 3: people don't know what a real marriage even looks like.
Speaker 3: No wonder, they don't want to get married, no wonder.
Speaker 3: So many are giving up on love when marriages are
Speaker 3: broken everywhere. But I do think gender ideology and abortion
Speaker 3: ideology is especially pernicious for young girls. Because we talked
Speaker 3: about Chloe cull earlier. She's this great example of what
Speaker 3: young girls suffer when you hit puberty. As a young girl,
Speaker 3: you're questioning your identity, You're questioning your body if you're
Speaker 3: told your body is wrong, or you're told in order
Speaker 3: for you to be a woman, you have to be
Speaker 3: like a Kardashian and be uber, sexy and basically sexually
Speaker 3: commoditize yourself. If that's what womanhood is, right, No wonder,
Speaker 3: So many girls are like, I'm out, you know, I
Speaker 3: don't I don't want this, I don't this. This feels bad,
Speaker 3: this feels wrong. So you're creating this perfect cesspool of
Speaker 3: misery for girls between the Internet, between the beauty and
Speaker 3: sex standards, and between the sexual revolution saying that you know,
Speaker 3: marriage and motherhood don't matter anymore. No wonder, girls are miserable.
Speaker 3: What's the solution. We talk about it on my podcast
Speaker 3: a lot. I know you care about this, but it's values.
Speaker 3: It's returning to morality. It's returning to values and a
Speaker 3: positive view of women and men, of motherhood and fatherhood
Speaker 3: and of marriage. So in explaining why these things are
Speaker 3: good and worth fighting for instead of we should give
Speaker 3: up on them.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you've you've come across this, but on
Speaker 1: some of these I don't know if they called, I
Speaker 1: don't know what they'd really kind of these alpha male
Speaker 1: podcasts or some of these influencers who will talk about
Speaker 1: because you did the whatever podcast recently which I saw,
Speaker 1: which you had some some viral moments on that. But
Speaker 1: you'll come across in general guys on the internet who
Speaker 1: will say they use this term. I actually learned this
Speaker 1: term from my friend Jenedi Abila. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you know her, but she talked about body count once
Speaker 1: and I'm legitimately I was like Jedediah when I was
Speaker 1: helping special operations guys in a rock and Afghanistan, like
Speaker 1: body count was a very you know, That's what I
Speaker 1: thought of as the body count, like how many people
Speaker 1: died in the you know, in the strike basically. But BodyCount, obviously,
Speaker 1: in the context of dating is a very very different thing,
Speaker 1: which is how many people somebody has slept with. And
Speaker 1: I feel like these guys who say you have to
Speaker 1: take that into account and there's a very you know,
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, I would never you know, if a
Speaker 1: woman has slept with more than three men or something.
Speaker 1: They're getting at something that is somewhat true, but they're
Speaker 1: taking the wrong approach to it, which is just cycle
Speaker 1: through as many women as you can until you happen
Speaker 1: to find one who hasn't slept with a lot of guys.
Speaker 1: Instead of women sleeping with a lot of guys because
Speaker 1: the culture pressures them to do. That is doing a
Speaker 1: lot of damage to women, to other human beings that
Speaker 1: has long term psychological impacts, right, I mean this is
Speaker 1: so there's they're picking up on some thing, but it's
Speaker 1: like they're dieing. I mean they're diagnosing a problem, but
Speaker 1: their approach to it is wrong.
Speaker 3: Well, it's more than wrong there. It's like hot called
Speaker 3: the kettle black, and it's like, you guys are both
Speaker 3: doing the wrong thing here. If your solution to women
Speaker 3: are promiscuous is to be promiscuous yourself, good luck with that. Like,
Speaker 3: you know, you're not going to find eternal happiness that way.
Speaker 3: And so I think the solution is men have to
Speaker 3: stand up and be better men, and women have to
Speaker 3: stand up and be better women. You know, I think
Speaker 3: sometimes I hear in culture this blaming game of like
Speaker 3: it's the women's fault or it's the men's fault, and
Speaker 3: I think we're all at fault. I think every single
Speaker 3: one of us are at fault in terms of if
Speaker 3: we're participating in hookup culture, if we are participating in
Speaker 3: hatred and division between the sexes, then we have a
Speaker 3: responsibility to stop. And the message for young women out
Speaker 3: there is a very similar message to young men, which
Speaker 3: is pursue virtue. You know, virtues is like forgotten word,
Speaker 3: but what is virtue? Self control, its respect, Virtue is
Speaker 3: even modesty, modesty not just of dress, but of behavior.
Speaker 3: It's understanding that what are you aiming for? What makes
Speaker 3: people most happy? This is what gets so crazy, Buck,
Speaker 3: is when you look at the social data. All the
Speaker 3: social data says that people who are monogamous, who get married,
Speaker 3: who stay married, are the happiest and healthiest sexually and
Speaker 3: physically in every aspect. They are the most economically successful.
Speaker 3: And that's not just because they come from a rich background.
Speaker 3: It's for both different socioeconomic levels. Regardless. If you are
Speaker 3: monogamous and you seek then keep an intact family, you
Speaker 3: will have better outcomes because you're going to be protected
Speaker 3: from all of the nightmares that come from cheating, dishonesty,
Speaker 3: breaking up your family, children out of wedlock, STIs, all
Speaker 3: of the stress, economic stresses of that of having multiple households.
Speaker 3: You're protected from those things. And again there's still mistakes
Speaker 3: that can be made in a monogamous marriage, of course,
Speaker 3: but the point is at large is better for society.
Speaker 3: So that's a message, right. And then the other message
Speaker 3: too is you are actually more likely to divorce if
Speaker 3: you live together before marriage. Most people don't even know this.
Speaker 3: They think if you mail together before marriage, you're actually
Speaker 3: like somehow protected from messing up the marriage because you
Speaker 3: really know you want to marry this person. Actually, if
Speaker 3: you test drive the car, as you say, before getting
Speaker 3: you know, buying the car, you're actually more likely to divorce.
Speaker 3: Couples that are chased, you know, abstinate before marriage and
Speaker 3: then get married are more likely to stay married. So
Speaker 3: more people hear of this and understand why I think
Speaker 3: it's going to change our culture on this.
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a closing.
Speaker 1: I like to look for a point of optimism where
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Speaker 1: last word for you. Everyone should check out the Lila
Speaker 1: Rose podcast. She is talking about all the a lot
Speaker 1: of the things we've touched on today and a whole
Speaker 1: lot more. And it's good to hear a young lady
Speaker 1: espousing a traditional value of morality and virtue so eloquently.
Speaker 1: What makes you optimistic?
Speaker 3: What makes me optimistic? Because I think a lot of
Speaker 3: people are waking up. I see I mean just the comments.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure you see these two, but comments
Speaker 3: from people saying, you know, they're not even religious, they're
Speaker 3: not Christian or Catholic or anything, but this makes a
Speaker 3: lot of sense. I get DMS from people saying, oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, I thought that I had to sleep with
Speaker 3: my boyfriend because that's what everyone said you do. But
Speaker 3: I don't want to do that anymore, want to I
Speaker 3: want to save sex for marriage. I mean, people are
Speaker 3: making these decisions. So, you know, people are looking for happiness,
Speaker 3: they're looking for meaning, they're looking for solutions, and I
Speaker 3: think a lot of the things we're talking about, our value,
Speaker 3: our values are a solution to what a lot of
Speaker 3: people are longing for. So I'm hopeful that there's cultural
Speaker 3: revival happening and excited to yeah, be a part of it.
Speaker 1: Bilo Rose, thanks for being with us. We'll talk to
Speaker 1: you soon Thanks for having