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Speaker 2: the backyard. I hope you're doing well. Analish is not here.
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Speaker 2: I adore today's guest. It's Joe Castle Baker. Joe, welcome
Speaker 2: to I said no gifts.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. It is a
Speaker 3: pleasure to be here in your beautiful backyard.
Speaker 2: It's a pleasure to have you here. And you've got
Speaker 2: a diet doctor pepper.
Speaker 3: I brought only one, which I think is a really
Speaker 3: a kind of mark against my character.
Speaker 2: Really sorry, very crass. Is it cold? It's cold?
Speaker 3: It's cold?
Speaker 2: Is that your soda of choice?
Speaker 3: It has become that since when, well since I had
Speaker 3: one maybe a year and a half ago and fell
Speaker 3: in love.
Speaker 2: It's that set. Yes, Wow, what were you drinking prior
Speaker 2: to that? Die Coke? Oh?
Speaker 3: Of course, I know, I know. I like both.
Speaker 2: They're both good drinks. But diet doctor Pepper.
Speaker 3: There's something about it. If you haven't had it yet,
Speaker 3: you really got to try it.
Speaker 2: It's a very I mean, it's got a great sweetness.
Speaker 3: It has the perfect sweetness, and it tastes very similar
Speaker 3: to the regular, but it has its own quality for sure.
Speaker 2: It's more of a little sister than diet Coke is
Speaker 2: to coke exactly. It's a different drink.
Speaker 3: Diet Coke is a different drink. It might as well
Speaker 3: be a different company in my opinion. People aren't gonna
Speaker 3: like that, but it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think diet doctor Pepper. I haven't had regular
Speaker 2: doctor Pepper really really long telling either. Actually I should
Speaker 2: probably try, yeah, to see if you're even I mean,
Speaker 2: if that's equal to say that, Yeah, I've been saying
Speaker 2: so confident.
Speaker 3: I know, really I like this. It's very very good though.
Speaker 2: And then they had a doctor Pepper called doctor Pepper ten.
Speaker 2: Do you remember this? I think I do. Where it
Speaker 2: was ten calories and it was for men and this
Speaker 2: was not that long.
Speaker 3: Wow, So I'm drinking the women's drink.
Speaker 2: I ultimately drinking.
Speaker 3: I'm sunned. I mean, I'm happy with that they discontinued ten.
Speaker 2: I assume I would assume. I don't think that it
Speaker 2: launched in the way that they wanted it to. Wide
Speaker 2: a disappointment, just an immediate backlash. Why only I think
Speaker 2: that's so funny. Ten calories? Men can handle ten.
Speaker 3: They can handle ten. What did they do to give
Speaker 3: it ten calories? What did they put right?
Speaker 2: They got so close to.
Speaker 3: Zero, so close it's like just a little bit.
Speaker 2: Men are not going to drink this if it's zebra exactly.
Speaker 2: They drive their something like that. You know. That's kind
Speaker 2: of how the commercials were for Doctor Pepper ten. They
Speaker 2: were like kind of aggressive and masculine. That's so wild.
Speaker 2: I mean, there there's that whole industry of kind of
Speaker 2: things that you know, are perceived as women products and
Speaker 2: are now kind of being marketed to men. Uh dude, wipes,
Speaker 2: Oh god. Even saying that out loud, it's just it's scary.
Speaker 2: But Doctor Piper ten was kind of a pioneer. I think.
Speaker 2: I think so dropped the ball.
Speaker 3: They really did. If they had come out with that,
Speaker 3: now I might try it. I've had I used I
Speaker 3: was spraying ax for women for a second.
Speaker 2: Wait, there's an actual xen.
Speaker 3: Ax for women, and it's called anarchy and it's in white,
Speaker 3: the bottle is white, and it's called Anarchy for her,
Speaker 3: and I was like, Okay, well, maybe I'll give it
Speaker 3: a shot. I was kind of desperate. I was at
Speaker 3: a gas station looking for deodorant, and I was like,
Speaker 3: this is the option. This was the best option I
Speaker 3: could get. And I kind of, you know, I didn't
Speaker 3: mind it.
Speaker 2: What does it smell like?
Speaker 3: I honestly I don't remember it was. It was not good.
Speaker 3: It wasn't really feminine. But except for the packaging, which
Speaker 3: looked a little feminine, was.
Speaker 2: The branding like the anarchy A with the circle around.
Speaker 2: They didn't include that. That's interesting. It feels like a
Speaker 2: very obvious I.
Speaker 3: Don't I think that was a little too far for them.
Speaker 3: But they just had Anarchy for her, and then instead
Speaker 3: of black, it was white, just to make it really clear.
Speaker 3: Different different, different, different, different different.
Speaker 2: I want to get my eyes on an Anarchy for her.
Speaker 2: I'm going to google this really. Yeah. I can't believe
Speaker 2: that this has never crossed my radar, because that is
Speaker 2: a terrible brand.
Speaker 3: I only saw it once at a gas station in Ohi, California,
Speaker 3: and then I maybe saw it again. I got a target,
Speaker 3: but it's very rare.
Speaker 2: Wow. Oh and it's got some pink.
Speaker 3: Yes, it definitely has some pink.
Speaker 2: I forgot. Wow, it's bad branding. That's bad. It's definitely
Speaker 2: bad because it does say axe yes, but then daily
Speaker 2: fragrance and then beneath that anarchy for her. Yes.
Speaker 3: Wait, that actually looks a little more what you're looking
Speaker 3: at here for your computer looks a little more refined
Speaker 3: than what I remember.
Speaker 2: You may have gotten kind of a crow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe interesting.
Speaker 2: I would love to smell some anarchy for her. I
Speaker 2: thought that X had gone away completely. I thought that
Speaker 2: after two thousand and nine they kind of said, we've
Speaker 2: got to find a new name for this brand. But
Speaker 2: oh and looks of a shower gel. Oh my, you
Speaker 2: can smell. And then there's some kind of kind of
Speaker 2: a wizard looking man and his review is actually good. Yes,
Speaker 2: I agree. His hand is glowing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's what happens.
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, but this is a whole new world.
Speaker 3: I know, what were you doing in OHI it was
Speaker 3: my sister's wedding, so you know I had to smell
Speaker 3: really good.
Speaker 2: To smell like gas station exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and no complaints about how I smelled and I
Speaker 3: officiated the wedding, so wow, you know I, uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people caught a whiff of you and said, get
Speaker 2: rid of the other person, Joe exactly.
Speaker 3: They got rid of the Catholic priest. And I stood
Speaker 3: there and said, they're not they're not.
Speaker 2: Got what are you wearing now?
Speaker 3: Right now, I'm wearing my classic arm and hammer.
Speaker 2: Armand hammer. Yes, it's really good. Does it just smell
Speaker 2: like baking soda?
Speaker 3: It smells like nothing, nothing, and it's great. I used
Speaker 3: to be so sweaty when I was younger, right, really
Speaker 3: sweaty that I'd have to wear like the deodorant at
Speaker 3: night before.
Speaker 2: Wow, just to prepare your body for it.
Speaker 3: Yes, and then what happens is the sweat moves elsewhere,
Speaker 3: And so then I started sweating profusely in my butt crack,
Speaker 3: is true.
Speaker 2: Yes, the bodies like the water has to We got
Speaker 2: to release this somehow. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And so then I would sit up, the seat would
Speaker 3: be perfect butt cheek imprint wet through my jeans and
Speaker 3: then I'd have just a little slit of water.
Speaker 2: Myra this is mortifying.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And I was sixteen seventy something like that.
Speaker 2: Hell, so were you like seeing a doctor about it. No, No,
Speaker 2: you were kept a private. I kept it really tight,
Speaker 2: you know, really sharing it with medical. Wow, that's really interesting.
Speaker 2: But then you switch to arm and a hammer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that Actually I still sweat a lot from everything.
Speaker 2: We live in New York. I mean during heat yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh and the heat there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I sweat everywhere, real wet heat. But it works.
Speaker 3: It doesn't make me smell bad. And then I don't
Speaker 3: get stains on my shirt that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Right, right, So I assume it's an antiperspirant.
Speaker 3: No, it's not deodorant. It's just deodorant. And then it
Speaker 3: does have baking soda.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I should try that.
Speaker 3: It's really I can't praise it enough. It is really good.
Speaker 2: I have very sensitive armpits. Oh really. I used to
Speaker 2: use speedstick, which I think is probably garbage. Well, I
Speaker 2: think I don't know what am I to say. It's
Speaker 2: probably actually good. I'm sure this wizard is rebuted it
Speaker 2: as something. But then I switched to something else, maybe
Speaker 2: old spice for a period. Yes, absolutely burned me, really
Speaker 2: literally burned my skin. So I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: the product's fault or my body's fault. Interesting, but now
Speaker 2: I'm I'm in Dove, Dove, Dove, but Dove for men. There,
Speaker 2: that's what it's in a gray case.
Speaker 3: That's the one where I'm kind of like, I got it.
Speaker 2: It makes sense. I got it. I feel like Dove
Speaker 2: has done it in a tasteful way. I agree. Why
Speaker 2: is that, I guess because they have never really it
Speaker 2: wasn't it didn't feel aggressive. It's still called Dove.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still kind of feminine.
Speaker 2: It's not right. I didn't like call it hawk no eagle, yeah,
Speaker 2: or like predator or something. We're a brand usually for women,
Speaker 2: and now we're a brand for everyone. The sense are
Speaker 2: kind of thoughtful.
Speaker 3: They are, they really are. They're very thoughtful. I can't
Speaker 3: think of a one, but I believe it.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I mine is, but it's a
Speaker 2: pleasant slue. It's kind of a bluish sometimes they have
Speaker 2: like a one that's like ocean are the words they're
Speaker 2: using to describe, of course, Yeah, the ocean smells really
Speaker 2: not the best smell, but fish and salt fish and yeah,
Speaker 2: god knows sewage, yeah, just free roaming suits. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: then I also use the Dove showered I've really bought
Speaker 2: into really in it. Yeah, I guess you know, whatever
Speaker 2: they were doing caught me.
Speaker 3: Now I believe it and I get it. I think
Speaker 3: I've had that and the squirt bottle tall with.
Speaker 2: The well we're using the one that's not. I would
Speaker 2: love to have a square bottle tall, but I don't
Speaker 2: think there's room on my shower shelf for that. You're
Speaker 2: more humble, I'm a more humble, yea humble beginnings, And
Speaker 2: so we have the one that's more of a squeeze
Speaker 2: from the middle. SSS. Do shower jail or a body soap?
Speaker 2: I do a bar a bar? I know, Oh I
Speaker 2: said shower jail or body soap? Those are the same thing. Well,
Speaker 2: the bodies are, that's bar bodies open bar of soap.
Speaker 3: I know, I don't really love it, but I bought
Speaker 3: a twenty pack or something and I'm now I'm stuck
Speaker 3: for until twenty twenty six or something. You know, there's
Speaker 3: nothing I can do about it.
Speaker 2: I don't think as an adult, I've ever used a
Speaker 2: bar of soap.
Speaker 3: I know, I don't know what happened to me when
Speaker 3: I decided to do this, and now I'm stuck.
Speaker 2: Do you have to use a washcloth? I do. Okay,
Speaker 2: so it's a whole thing. You've really pictured it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is. I have to a washcloth.
Speaker 3: I use a Korean washcloth that I would say scrapes
Speaker 3: off the first layer of skin every time.
Speaker 2: Oh see this sounds very appealing. No, it's good.
Speaker 3: It was something I saw on a TikTok and I
Speaker 3: thought let's give it a shot.
Speaker 2: It's a care so is it rough? It's rough and
Speaker 2: it's but it's still like flexible like.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and it's actually a glove and you stick
Speaker 3: your hand in it, okay, grab the soap. It gets
Speaker 3: it picks up that soap real nice, and then it
Speaker 3: just rips off off the skin on your body and
Speaker 3: it is really I mean, it works. I want to
Speaker 3: try this now you I don't know if you can
Speaker 3: handle it.
Speaker 2: There's a good chance I couldn't. But I have had
Speaker 2: a Korean body scrub before. I haven't had that. It's
Speaker 2: incredible and like a U parlor pizza parlor. No, it's
Speaker 2: called Wee spaw. And I was about to go today,
Speaker 2: you were, I was well. Then I ruined your day.
Speaker 3: Well, and now it's I can't possibly do something that
Speaker 3: somebody has told me to do now now I love
Speaker 3: it there.
Speaker 2: Oh it's great. You get to wear their shorts and
Speaker 2: their backing shirt.
Speaker 3: I thought that you couldn't get a massage there.
Speaker 2: You can't get a massage. Now this is when we're
Speaker 2: going back to men and women. Women can get a
Speaker 2: massage there. They have all these services for women. Men
Speaker 2: can only get scrubbed. I see interesting, which you know
Speaker 2: again it say you can only get the most aggressive
Speaker 2: thing if you're a man. I got that. I mean,
Speaker 2: I got it.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm maybe I'm responsible for all this division after all,
Speaker 3: you know, But.
Speaker 2: If you go, you should have it done. I would
Speaker 2: a fascinating experience and probably good for something.
Speaker 3: Did you feel smooth afterwards?
Speaker 2: I felt I was just slipping and sliding. My clothes
Speaker 2: wouldn't say on. My body couldn't hold onto the steering wheel.
Speaker 2: It was very difficult for me. I heard a horror
Speaker 2: story about a SPA recently. I don't even know if
Speaker 2: I should tell it on this podcast. Some friends ran
Speaker 2: into a dead person really yes, yes, and the spa.
Speaker 2: This was not we spa. They ran into it. What happened?
Speaker 2: And I guess we're telling the story now like that,
Speaker 2: And I guess the staff started acting weird and then
Speaker 2: they kind of said, there's somebody passed out in the spa.
Speaker 2: But they weren't calling nine one one. They were just
Speaker 2: acting suspicious, and so my friend and her friend were like, well,
Speaker 2: if someone has to take what's happening, someone needs to
Speaker 2: deal with this. They went into the sauna and we're
Speaker 2: like trying to wake the person up, clapping, wake up,
Speaker 2: wake up, nothing happening. They took the pulse the person
Speaker 2: had died, and only then did the SPA call for
Speaker 2: an ambulance. WHOA to me, that says they've had a
Speaker 2: lot of people died there before.
Speaker 3: If they if they're not to do anything, or a
Speaker 3: lot of people pass out and they kind of just
Speaker 3: wait until the next logical step, right and hope they
Speaker 3: wake up. Yeah, I hope they wake up or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But then they also charged my friend. They still
Speaker 2: didn't they had to pay really.
Speaker 3: Even though they found the dead body, they ran.
Speaker 2: The dead body. Oh my god, can you imagine? I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean I can't imagine at all. I'm inviting you
Speaker 2: to imagine this right now.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, first of all, if someone passed out, well,
Speaker 3: I guess if somebody passed out.
Speaker 2: I would do something. I would probably I would try to,
Speaker 2: especially if I work there, certainly I would be like, well,
Speaker 2: it's now our responsibility. Yeah, because this could only get worse.
Speaker 3: Oh god, well, I'm really let me just say this,
Speaker 3: and I don't mean to be disrespectful, but I'm really
Speaker 3: glad it wasn't in a jacuzzi for their sake, because
Speaker 3: I always imagine and it's in the jacuzzi and then
Speaker 3: they got to drain it the sauna. I think they
Speaker 3: can get back to business the next day almost immediately.
Speaker 2: I think. So it's a dry, hot space exactly.
Speaker 3: It almost disinfects itself kind of, and so they can
Speaker 3: get back right on the saddle.
Speaker 2: You know, I assumed this spa. I mean, according to
Speaker 2: how they handled the situation, they probably did just get
Speaker 2: They're probably just like, okay, who's back in the sauna.
Speaker 3: They might have had a small vigil and then moved on.
Speaker 2: But apparently there were customers who were like, well, I
Speaker 2: want to shower, Like people were mad that, like their
Speaker 2: day had been right. I guess I can't believe it.
Speaker 2: If I were there, I'd be like, well, I guess
Speaker 2: I just have to leave.
Speaker 3: It's a risky place. Let's be real, it's a risky place.
Speaker 2: It is kind of risky.
Speaker 3: It's scary to mean a sauna can be. Sometimes I
Speaker 3: feel like I'm about to die. If you go in
Speaker 3: there on an empty stomach, Oh you're done.
Speaker 2: Forget it, you're dead. You're going to pass out. You'll
Speaker 2: pass out. I have very low blood pressure, so size
Speaker 2: you are sickly, tank hyper whatever? Tanks No, I get
Speaker 2: just standing up, I'll almost pass up. So low low
Speaker 2: blood pressure? Wait, what's that? You want? That one? Right
Speaker 2: between that? It is better, right, yeah, ultimately better, But
Speaker 2: I think I'm too low. Like when I go to
Speaker 2: the doctor whatever, they'll be like, oh, this is low.
Speaker 2: They always comment on it, so you know that's not
Speaker 2: But then my cholesterol's not right, my heart and my
Speaker 2: blood system's broken. Interesting blood systems.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, maybe you've got to get more scrubs.
Speaker 2: Maybe scrubbing does kind of circulate the blood through your body.
Speaker 2: You're getting rid of yourself. Well you should go to
Speaker 2: we spa. Treat yourself to that. It's a really to me,
Speaker 2: it's better than like going to Disneyland. Okay, pay thirty dollars.
Speaker 3: Well, that's definitely better than Disneyland.
Speaker 2: Disneylands so expensed.
Speaker 3: I would say it's two thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: It's so expensive, it's I think truly two hundred dollars
Speaker 2: at least. Yes, for a single day of wandering around
Speaker 2: the park.
Speaker 3: Big difference is I can't get naked at Disneyland. That's
Speaker 3: the big difference.
Speaker 2: See, that would be interesting if it were taken over
Speaker 2: by weeks. I think so just people kind of separated. Yeah,
Speaker 2: adults only. Everything is extremely hot, yes, dead bodies. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Have you been to Disneyland recently?
Speaker 3: No, but I was going to go the other day.
Speaker 3: I was kind of disappointed. My sister was like, let's go,
Speaker 3: and then she backed out.
Speaker 2: Oh. Interesting, Yeah, you've kind of been making all these
Speaker 2: plans and then they're falling through. I know, how long
Speaker 2: are you in town for? I was here for It'll
Speaker 2: be three weeks. Oh, I leave in a week. Yeah.
Speaker 2: What have there been any exciting things you've done while
Speaker 2: you're here?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: Kind of, but not really. I've been to the beach
Speaker 3: a few times. I've I went to Musso and frank Oh.
Speaker 2: I have feelings about Musso and frank Oh. I don't
Speaker 2: think it's good. Really, I think it's bad. I think
Speaker 2: it's cafeteria food. What I loved it, people love it.
Speaker 2: But the one time I've been there, I don't drink,
Speaker 2: so like I'm not getting a martini or anything. That's
Speaker 2: the big draw, right, I think. And then all the
Speaker 2: other food, I'm like, oh, this is something that could
Speaker 2: have been prepared in an elementary school, Like it's like
Speaker 2: chef's salads. Well I got something like that. What did
Speaker 2: you get?
Speaker 3: I got the jelly consumme. I know I got it
Speaker 3: because that you know that it's so grows sounding.
Speaker 2: What is jelly consumme? It is broth with gelatine. It's broth.
Speaker 3: Imagine you're making jello, but instead of water, you're using
Speaker 3: beef broth with pieces of beef in it, and they
Speaker 3: serve that.
Speaker 2: So it's it is essentially like a jello but savory. Yes,
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was expecting it to be this thing that I
Speaker 3: would defend with my life after I had it, because
Speaker 3: it was you guys get it all wrong. And you
Speaker 3: know what, it's okay, I've had it just once and
Speaker 3: I'm moving on and never again.
Speaker 2: But you ate the whole thing, well, not just me.
Speaker 2: I passed it around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was kind of like, let's let's take a
Speaker 3: turn one, you know, and you.
Speaker 2: Just eat it on a fork. You don't like spread
Speaker 2: it on a toastrew.
Speaker 3: It's just in a it's served in a cocktail glass,
Speaker 3: and it has this horse radish cream on it.
Speaker 2: Inexcusable.
Speaker 3: It was definitely definitely worth trying, but never again.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, and it's a warm cold but not cold enough.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, And you want that to be ice.
Speaker 3: I want it to be freezing cold. But it was
Speaker 3: just cold, just a little just a little cold.
Speaker 2: So it just feels like a mistake kind of Yeah.
Speaker 3: If they didn't eat it up enough, or they left
Speaker 3: it out or I don't know, but you know, I'm.
Speaker 2: It was good. It was good. I was happy I
Speaker 2: got it. Yeah, a little cafeteria food. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: feel like you go there more. It's like an experience,
Speaker 2: I suppose, definitely. Yeah. And if I because I'm in
Speaker 2: such a bad mood by the time I'm having dinner,
Speaker 2: I need it to be good. I can't just have
Speaker 2: it be an experience. No, I agree, So Musso and
Speaker 2: Frank that Dantana's. That's another place I don't know if
Speaker 2: I've been. That place is in Beverly Hills, believe I've
Speaker 2: never been. We tried to get it and they were
Speaker 2: so rude. But it's you know, it's like a scene
Speaker 2: like you go there because it's like Hollywood or whatever.
Speaker 2: That's something I do not want to do ever. I
Speaker 2: know it is kind of unappealing, right, but apparently they
Speaker 2: have a they have chicken palm, which I would eat.
Speaker 3: I love chicken parm they had I think they had
Speaker 3: chicken parm on. Mussom Frank too.
Speaker 2: Well, they've got everything. They basically like if it's been
Speaker 2: turned into a TV dinner, they they'll have it at
Speaker 2: exactly right to discuss. My apologies to Musso and Frank.
Speaker 2: Who even owns that at their children? Probably not so
Speaker 2: junior somebody. So that was one of the highlights of
Speaker 2: the trip. Yeah, yeah, had you been there before? No? Wow?
Speaker 2: And you're from LA I am, Yeah, so you've avoided
Speaker 2: it for years? I know.
Speaker 3: Well, I wasn't really hanging out over there when I was.
Speaker 3: I was no, I was at the Chipotle in Westwood
Speaker 3: two three, four times a day. I was about to
Speaker 3: say a week with my best friend Maggie, and that
Speaker 3: was about it. That was my La experience vibrant definitely culturally,
Speaker 3: you know involved.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think Chipotle has gotten worse or everyone's
Speaker 2: tastes have evolved worse?
Speaker 3: It has or maybe both our tastes have gotten worse,
Speaker 3: which is why we still tolerated. But it's gotten worse.
Speaker 3: Chipotle has gone worse.
Speaker 2: The quality has shot straight downhill, right, I think so.
Speaker 3: I think it's you know, after ten years of doing anything,
Speaker 3: people get tired, you know.
Speaker 2: They lost the spirit, they lost the joy.
Speaker 3: There used to be such a spark there in the beginning,
Speaker 3: and now it's just another bowl, another bowl, I think, orige.
Speaker 3: I think the original sin was that people started getting
Speaker 3: the bowl when they were like, our whole thing was burritos, right,
Speaker 3: and they're kind of sad that they they stopped their passion.
Speaker 2: They lost their way exactly right my sense, I always
Speaker 2: thought Chipotle was like fine. It was like, oh, I'll
Speaker 2: have a fine lunch, and now it feels horrible. It's horrible.
Speaker 2: They've got to get it back together. I know, what
Speaker 2: do you is the plan just to go out of business?
Speaker 2: I think some of these companies, I don't understand what
Speaker 2: the strategy is.
Speaker 3: I think it's something needs something bigger and better needs
Speaker 3: to come in and they need to get scared.
Speaker 2: I think it is your opportunity.
Speaker 3: I mean, well, we'll see. I'll try to come up
Speaker 3: with something.
Speaker 2: Well, I think we should talk about something else, Okay, Joe.
Speaker 2: I was very excited to have you here today. Thought
Speaker 2: Joe will come over after a probably four hour car ride,
Speaker 2: we'll have a nice time chatting. I'll send him on
Speaker 2: his way. Everything will be fine. So I was absolutely floored.
Speaker 2: Throne is putting it mildly when you sauntered into my
Speaker 2: backyard holding a gift on my podcast, I said, no gifts.
Speaker 2: I just couldn't resist. It was irresistible opportunity.
Speaker 3: To inside and see what's what's what's in store?
Speaker 2: Well, you've brought this gift in this gorgeous like almost
Speaker 2: a Christmas packaging, but it feels like it could be
Speaker 2: at any time of pea denominational. Yes, it's a non denominational.
Speaker 2: It has kind of snowflakes, but could also be fireworks exactly.
Speaker 2: It could be whatever you want. Should I open it here?
Speaker 2: On the podcast? I think, so, oh, this is harder
Speaker 2: to open the next space.
Speaker 3: I didn't want that. I didn't anticipate that I should
Speaker 3: have pre ripped it.
Speaker 2: That's very tough wrapping paper. Okay, we're opening now, we're
Speaker 2: to a white box. We're opening the white Oh, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of things in here. There are should it
Speaker 2: do I need to open it in any order? No? Okay.
Speaker 2: The first thing we're pulling out is a gorgeous beanie baby. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's a green rabbit, A see green rabbit, see like
Speaker 2: a sea glass. Do they have? His name is Hippity Yes.
Speaker 2: Should we talk about this first? I think so? Well, okay,
Speaker 2: And it was born June first, nineteen ninety six. Hippoti
Speaker 2: is a cute little bunny dressed in green. He looks
Speaker 2: quite funny, twitching his nose in the air, sniffing a
Speaker 2: flower here and there. Wow, gorgeous, I think. So why
Speaker 2: did you bring this? Well? For one, I thought you
Speaker 2: would appreciate it. I immediately. I love the color and
Speaker 2: the tag is still on. It's I mean, essentially mint condition.
Speaker 3: It's of all of the ones I had, and not
Speaker 3: that I had many in front of me to choose from,
Speaker 3: but if that was the case, this was definitely the
Speaker 3: most mint conditioned one.
Speaker 2: How many do you think you have? Oh?
Speaker 3: Thanks, I prefer to keep things private, and this one definitely.
Speaker 3: You know, this one is actually the one that is
Speaker 3: supposed to be the most expensive if it's if it
Speaker 3: has a factory defect, this one can go for like
Speaker 3: a thousand bucks.
Speaker 2: I'm selling this immediately.
Speaker 3: This one, unfortunately, is flawless. Well yeah, for now, I
Speaker 3: could counterfit you exactly, rip off an eye something like that.
Speaker 2: What is the flaw that makes it valuable?
Speaker 3: I think I think millimeters of missage something like that.
Speaker 3: Everyone thinks the Princess Diana want is like the really
Speaker 3: expensive one, but there's actually like thirty thousand of those everywhere, right,
Speaker 3: But this one is this was like one of the
Speaker 3: original beanie babies. What I'm really hyping it up as
Speaker 3: though I'm giving you something special.
Speaker 2: It's not. It's not. It's really not, because ultimately it's
Speaker 2: not the one that I want. I want the one
Speaker 2: we want.
Speaker 3: You want thee Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: Wow, there's John Is showing us one on eBay that
Speaker 2: says thirty five thousands. I want it back now, I
Speaker 2: want this one back.
Speaker 3: I'm like, made a mistake.
Speaker 2: This is the one, right, is the one? But obviously
Speaker 2: this one must be the one with the no, wait,
Speaker 2: this is not this is a lawsuit. My god got
Speaker 2: a mistake. And then we have audio of you giving
Speaker 2: it to me. I gave it to you on the record.
Speaker 2: This is a normal one.
Speaker 3: It's a normal one, and it's thirty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Joe. I can't take your thirty five thousand Dollarsanie, I
Speaker 2: don't know to take me to dinner with the money
Speaker 2: you make off I so, yeah, what that should to me?
Speaker 2: That feels like it should be a government trap and
Speaker 2: that person, the person who buys it, should be arrested immediately.
Speaker 3: There's no way who would would possibly buy that?
Speaker 2: Who clicks yes on a thirty five? Wow, that can't
Speaker 2: possibly be true. That maybe the seller is just like,
Speaker 2: let's just.
Speaker 3: Wish thinking I might as well. Yeah, it's gonna set
Speaker 3: on my mantle. Yeah, it costs me nothing.
Speaker 2: I'm blown away. How did you find out it was
Speaker 2: worth anything at all?
Speaker 3: Well, we have found all of it. I'm staying at
Speaker 3: my mom's house. You can't tell. And we found a
Speaker 3: bunch of beanie babies from my childhood, my brothers and
Speaker 3: my sisters and I and we have a big pile
Speaker 3: of them. And we were trying to value them. There's
Speaker 3: no value there at all. But so we were looking
Speaker 3: through and we have them all like in one location,
Speaker 3: and we're like, you know, eventually we'll find some I
Speaker 3: will find a seller, a verified seller, and we'll kind
Speaker 3: of figure out how to do, you know, we'll get
Speaker 3: that money there. But it's never gonna happen except for
Speaker 3: this one.
Speaker 2: This one was the most valuable for I really. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So we were all collecting them, I think, So, yeah,
Speaker 2: are you the oldest sibling.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of the middle though, I'm a twin so
Speaker 3: oh I didn't know that. Yeah, I have a twin sister,
Speaker 3: and then I have an older brother, but I'm five
Speaker 3: minutes older, so I guess I'm.
Speaker 2: The interesting Yeah. I've never thought about the middle child
Speaker 2: involving twins. I know. Yeah, it's not quite right, but
Speaker 2: right enough. Yeah, very good. So you have quite a
Speaker 2: few of these at home, yes, And you went through
Speaker 2: and the rest were worthless. Yeah, and then this one.
Speaker 2: Some freak out there figured out that there were some
Speaker 2: that had a factory defect. Yes, and not.
Speaker 3: Those are the ones supposedly that the collectors want, right,
Speaker 3: and the rest are kind of like it's more just like,
Speaker 3: if you like them, keep them, but no one's going
Speaker 3: to have her buy these.
Speaker 2: I don't know how the beanie baby craze passed me
Speaker 2: by I for whatever reason. I mean, I had a
Speaker 2: little sister who got a few of them, but there
Speaker 2: was never any like, oh, we need to invest in
Speaker 2: beanie babies. Yeah, but it seems like the rest of
Speaker 2: the country got taken for a ride. They definitely did.
Speaker 2: Were they ever were I guess probably during the height
Speaker 2: of the fame they were worth something.
Speaker 3: I think it was the kind of thing where it's like,
Speaker 3: hold on to this, it's going to be a worth
Speaker 3: whole lot of money some day, And I don't.
Speaker 2: Know about that yet. I guess it's a low investment. Definitely,
Speaker 2: they probably cost what ten dollars at the time.
Speaker 3: I imagine honestly that they were a little more, oh interesting,
Speaker 3: because they had hype right like they were. I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't remember.
Speaker 2: Sixteen dollars feels like about privy to that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: I was kind of you were just kind of blinded
Speaker 2: by the whole excitement exactly.
Speaker 3: I was focusing on the experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they had the ones I believed that
Speaker 2: you got a McDonald's that somehow we're all so collectible.
Speaker 2: Maybe smaller, smaller, I'm sure cheaper made. I'm sure they
Speaker 2: were as.
Speaker 3: Opposed to this, which was clearly very fine, very hand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly hand.
Speaker 3: Car.
Speaker 2: I watched that Beanie baby documentary. Did you watch this? No?
Speaker 2: I should. I don't know that you should. Really. I
Speaker 2: remember thinking, oh, this is just whatever, like bad nostalgic rab.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I think I would learn something,
Speaker 2: and I don't remember learning a single thing. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: I'll skip it, skip it. But I think the one
Speaker 2: thing I learned was other worthless. Yes, so, but yeah,
Speaker 2: fortunately I never got involved. But you brought this along
Speaker 2: just as a gorgeous gift for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is just the opener. This is just the
Speaker 3: there's four there's four things in here.
Speaker 2: Four things? Uh? Is there anything else to say about
Speaker 2: beanie babies at the time when you were collecting them?
Speaker 2: Was it a thing like your parents? Did it drive
Speaker 2: your parents crazy sort of thing? Or were they like, oh,
Speaker 2: Joe want something I really didn't pay attention to. I
Speaker 2: was focused on other things.
Speaker 3: But I think probably it did drive them crazy, because
Speaker 3: also I think my sister and I thought over them,
Speaker 3: or like we wanted I wanted her, she wanted mine,
Speaker 3: but I wouldn't give her, you know.
Speaker 2: And did you have to like go wait outside of stores? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: we never did that. No, like camping out.
Speaker 3: No, we weren't that kind of obsessed with it.
Speaker 2: We weren't that family. No, we were not. And this
Speaker 2: was also about the same time as Tamagatchy, Yes, and Furby,
Speaker 2: those all happening at the same moment.
Speaker 3: I would say, within years of each other, if not
Speaker 3: at the same time. Did you have all of those
Speaker 3: things I did? I had a Tamagatchi, I remember I
Speaker 3: had a Tamagatchi, and I think I had a Ferbi too. Okay,
Speaker 3: but those kind of we got rid of those because
Speaker 3: there was some creepy about that.
Speaker 2: I think these ones we held on to. Tama Gotchi
Speaker 2: is an interesting surprise name for someone named Tammy. It's
Speaker 2: a cute name for it. It's a cuteness someone named Tammy.
Speaker 2: I mean to find out your full name is tama
Speaker 2: Gotcha's or a fun play name. Maybe annoying for them.
Speaker 2: I think we. I think I also had a Tamagatchi
Speaker 2: and a Ferby, but I don't remember, like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: remember being something I didn't take care of. It was
Speaker 2: like a novelty for maybe three days. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: immediately was dismissed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing about these toys. And I see
Speaker 3: it in my nephews now where I'm like, oh, you're
Speaker 3: not gonna like that in a week. You're not gonna
Speaker 3: like that in a week. And here we are giving
Speaker 3: this to you, like oh yeah, oh here, this will
Speaker 3: be the one. This will be the toy.
Speaker 2: This will be the toy they'll never get over. Is
Speaker 2: there anything for children right now? That's like a beanie
Speaker 2: baby that I don't know. Actually I'm not I should be.
Speaker 2: I should be up to date with that. I feel
Speaker 2: like my nieces were like collecting something with giant eyes,
Speaker 2: animals with giant like dogs. But I don't know what
Speaker 2: those were. Probably a beanie baby, maybe the very songs.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I was I was
Speaker 2: too old for brats. Brats. Yeah, no, this is beyond breds.
Speaker 2: It's just like a very cute animal. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I've got my niece's birthdays coming up
Speaker 2: in two weeks, and I need to find out what's
Speaker 2: good for an eight year old? I feel like eight
Speaker 2: is when you feel like at the school across the streelers,
Speaker 2: I'll just go stand to the fence. What sort of
Speaker 2: toys are you kids? No? I feel like eight was
Speaker 2: probably the age when I started appreciating getting money, yes,
Speaker 2: rather than so I could go buy a toy, yeah,
Speaker 2: rather than something being given to me. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know what an eight year old cares for. Look
Speaker 2: into it. You came with no information. Maybe I give
Speaker 2: heard this beanie baby.
Speaker 3: I bet you'd like it, especially when you told her
Speaker 3: the price tag.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Should we open another object? Some of them?
Speaker 3: We can maybe go? Well, whatever, let's skip it.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's here's the thing wrapped in white tissue.
Speaker 2: Oh god, oh, this feels like a coloring book. First
Speaker 2: of all, it's a Rachel Ray thirty Minute Meals book.
Speaker 2: But you know, usually with a cookbook, it's like a
Speaker 2: hard cover. Yeah, this is essentially a magazine.
Speaker 3: It's almost like the pages I meant to be ripped out.
Speaker 2: It feels like they're probably going to be activities to
Speaker 2: do inside.
Speaker 3: If you look inside. The design of it is the
Speaker 3: same way.
Speaker 2: Oh, Rachel did not want any care put into this cookbook.
Speaker 2: Not soever. We've got the Let's see. I wonder if
Speaker 2: this was an original run of the thing. Where did
Speaker 2: this come from?
Speaker 3: At the kitchen? Am I in the kitchen? I believe
Speaker 3: it or not? And it's like brand new, I know,
Speaker 3: but this is from I think this is from probably
Speaker 3: like two thousand and thirty.
Speaker 2: Right, the design everything, and Rachel looks twenty.
Speaker 3: Years She looks like somebody that we could ask about
Speaker 3: eight year old toys.
Speaker 2: Here. She's essentially an on the cover of this cook
Speaker 2: childlike it's a different era. And the I mean, the
Speaker 2: photo shoot is confusing. She's kind of hanging out over
Speaker 2: the top of these stove.
Speaker 3: Yes, there's nothing in the stuff in the pot. She's
Speaker 3: holding the lid.
Speaker 2: There's not even steam coming out of her hair is
Speaker 2: kind of just a chop. The ends look looks like, hey,
Speaker 2: like if you touched it, it would fall away. Her
Speaker 2: hair is dead, it is dead. She looks great. She
Speaker 2: I mean, she looks more joyful than she has in years. Year.
Speaker 2: This is when she was still you know, she had
Speaker 2: the heat, she had the hunger. Yes, let's see if
Speaker 2: this we can find the copyright. Let's see nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 3: Wow, I really throwing it back here.
Speaker 2: Twenty five years old, and it is like it was
Speaker 2: just off the show. It's been like preserved airtight container.
Speaker 3: How is this?
Speaker 2: It was actually in the kitchen. Yes, how did it
Speaker 2: stay this? You?
Speaker 3: Well, clearly we haven't been making many thirty minute meals
Speaker 3: in this household. I've been having more like Thanksgiving state exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I think this was actually bought for me because
Speaker 3: I loved her. Did you read I loved her so much?
Speaker 3: What was the first thing she did that you loved?
Speaker 3: Did she have like did you launch a show first?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: That was how I first fell in love with her.
Speaker 2: And what was the first show she did? Was it
Speaker 2: a thirty minute meals?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: And I think the premise is the show is thirty
Speaker 3: minutes and by the time from start to finish, she
Speaker 3: will make a meal and there's no TV magic.
Speaker 2: It's like she does it. You watch it in real time,
Speaker 2: in real time? Yeah, Wow, that stresses me.
Speaker 3: I mean it's kind of amazing.
Speaker 2: Did you ever try or were you just watching?
Speaker 3: I think I did maybe once, but I think I
Speaker 3: just I don't know.
Speaker 2: You loved her personality.
Speaker 3: I was more in it to watch.
Speaker 2: I was it was a foyeuristic thing, right, Well I
Speaker 2: don't know about that, watching this woman in her home
Speaker 2: thirty minute slice of Rachel's day. But you were hooked immediately.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really liked her, though I liked Ina Garten more.
Speaker 3: But oh of course she had two hers for her.
Speaker 3: They give her two slots back to back from five
Speaker 3: to six and it was two half hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, Yeah that's how popular she was. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she blew up almost immediately. Oh yeah, but I don't
Speaker 2: have much memory of her show. I just remember her
Speaker 2: being famous almost immediately. Yeah, I yeah, but I love
Speaker 2: cooking shows. I just I don't know why I didn't
Speaker 2: latch onto Rachel her.
Speaker 3: She got a little I will say it was quick.
Speaker 3: I got over her quickly, oh interest, which is maybe
Speaker 3: why the cookbook here wasn't used like some ferby.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was kind of like, I want to really hunk
Speaker 3: her down and cook. I don't want to make these
Speaker 3: kind of thirty I'm not cooking for a family. I'm
Speaker 3: looking for me and I'm thirteen.
Speaker 2: I mean, when you were in love with her, how
Speaker 2: did that manifest itself? Just watching the show, watching the show,
Speaker 2: and I did it every day.
Speaker 3: I'd come home and I'd watch maybe two hours of
Speaker 3: Food Network every single day.
Speaker 2: Do you cook now? I do.
Speaker 3: I love cooking, Okay, and I really I enjoy it.
Speaker 3: I love cooking. I love learning about cooking. And I
Speaker 3: think it like started when I was a kid.
Speaker 2: A kid. But was she kind of your first chef love? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Her, definitely she was. And I also loved her other
Speaker 3: show that was twenty forty dollars a Day or something.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting. She had these real gimmicky shows things that
Speaker 2: we're just like, things are not going right for me exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like I have no time, I have no money.
Speaker 3: I'm really trying to make it work.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That one. She would like go to the grocery
Speaker 2: store and spend No, she would go traveling. I'll go
Speaker 2: visit like a plane. So you're on the Yeah, this
Speaker 2: person is desperate. They're on the run, they have nowhere
Speaker 2: to turn exactly.
Speaker 3: When she's at home, she's in a rush, you know.
Speaker 3: But she'd go like to Sconnectady, New York and try
Speaker 3: to survive on twenty bucks.
Speaker 2: I was like out of the back of her van. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 2: I want to watch all of these I know it
Speaker 2: really was. I wonder if she's had them scrubbed. I
Speaker 2: don't know, are they still online? I could torrent them,
Speaker 2: find it. I would love to tourrent just gigs and
Speaker 2: gigs of Rachel Ray shows. Really. Okay, so that's but
Speaker 2: then you probably moved on to Aina. I did. That
Speaker 2: feels like a natural next step. This is more mature.
Speaker 2: This person has taste and exactly. Yeah, she's out there
Speaker 2: just kind of doing her thing, waiting for Jeffrey. And yes,
Speaker 2: but now you're just cooking on do you find recipes?
Speaker 2: What is your because I don't cook it all?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Really, not a single thing. It's shameful.
Speaker 3: That's not you know what people say that Sometimes I'm like,
Speaker 3: it's not.
Speaker 2: I think it is. Some people.
Speaker 3: Listen, some people have to cook and some people have
Speaker 3: to eat, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But my boyfriend doesn't cook either. Oh well, then you're
Speaker 2: kind of screwed. It's a bad situation. Yeah, well you
Speaker 2: have Trader Joe's right. I mean, there's food in the world.
Speaker 2: It would be nice to just have, like the care Well,
Speaker 2: I'm really glad I gave you that book. I mean,
Speaker 2: thirty minute Maybe this is a good first step for me,
Speaker 2: I think it could be very much. How often are
Speaker 2: you cooking at home?
Speaker 3: You know, I cook like a big thing and then
Speaker 3: I'll like have it like paste it out over there.
Speaker 3: It's not like meal prepping, but I'll make like a
Speaker 3: big thing and then it'll be like last me a while.
Speaker 2: Like, so I am very this is something I could
Speaker 2: probably do, and I'm curious, like what is a big
Speaker 2: thing you'll cook.
Speaker 3: I'll make like a big thing of beans, and then
Speaker 3: I'll make like rice, and then I'll like maybe make
Speaker 3: some tofu like on the day of Oh, so it's
Speaker 3: it is kind of like meal prepping, right right. Or
Speaker 3: I'll make like chicken or like some kind of soup
Speaker 3: or something, or like grains, like a big thing of grains.
Speaker 2: And then it lasts you three to four days. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and you don't get tired of it.
Speaker 3: I do by the last day. By the last day,
Speaker 3: we're kind of like, oh god, here we go. More
Speaker 3: black beans. Okay, let's see how we can black beans again.
Speaker 2: Here we go.
Speaker 3: You have to really learn how much you should make
Speaker 3: because sometimes you can go off and it's just you're trapped.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I assume beans are hard they can be. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't how to measure out a bean for several days.
Speaker 3: I'm still learning, and I've been doing it for.
Speaker 2: A while, always learning. Have you ever seen Rachel or
Speaker 2: Aina in person? No? I did.
Speaker 3: I saw Jada, well not, this is the dumb person
Speaker 3: between someone exactly.
Speaker 2: Jiada.
Speaker 3: I saw once on the street, Yeah, begging after the
Speaker 3: show get went away?
Speaker 2: She kind of no.
Speaker 3: She was walking out of a like a yogurt store,
Speaker 3: like a yog frozen yogurt place, and I thought, wow,
Speaker 3: my god, I was blown away.
Speaker 2: Did you see what sort of yogurt she was eating?
Speaker 2: I didn't. I'm so curious.
Speaker 3: She kind of proud, I think she I don't even
Speaker 3: know if I looked at that, I was looking at
Speaker 3: her face.
Speaker 2: You needed to get the fall. I would have been
Speaker 2: walking up and just taking a little bit. I know.
Speaker 2: I should have taken a picture. You should have ultimately
Speaker 2: been a popular Yeah. No, I would love to see
Speaker 2: any of these women in person. I've got a make
Speaker 2: a better effort. Over the holidays. We drove by Inina's house.
Speaker 2: Oh where it's in the hamp tanpas, Yes, yeah, and uh,
Speaker 2: you could just walk up to the door. Really, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's very exposed. I don't know if she lives there anymore,
Speaker 2: but some friends told us this is where her house.
Speaker 2: Did you play ding dong ditch? Did you throw a pebble?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I should have just gone up and ran could have happened.
Speaker 2: Can you teach me to cook? What's wrong with harassing
Speaker 2: a celebrity? Fact?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm blown away by that. I would have expected
Speaker 3: it to be behind a gate or something.
Speaker 2: Right, Maybe I don't remember there being any I feel
Speaker 2: like it was just the lawn up to the house. Wow.
Speaker 2: But I feel like probably within that community people are respecting. Maybe. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people. She's not the sort
Speaker 2: of celebrity that drives people crazy. No, I don't know.
Speaker 3: You should have talked to me when I was fifteen.
Speaker 2: I was okay, so I have thirty minute meals. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't mind cooking something at some point. I obviously cooked
Speaker 2: during the pandemic, yeah, deep pandemic, but then immediately gave
Speaker 2: it up. Yeah. I don't blame you. I think I
Speaker 2: just got tired. Yeah, and I'm not skilled enough, but
Speaker 2: I still bake. So, oh yeah, that's harder. It's not harder,
Speaker 2: it's way easier. Okay, it's simply following instructions, fair enough. Yeah,
Speaker 2: whereas with cooking, I assume you're actually putting thought into
Speaker 2: there's a little more improvisation. Yeah right, definitely right. I
Speaker 2: can't have anything go wrong or freak out. Okay, so.
Speaker 3: Told me at the beginning of the podcast.
Speaker 2: Really relax, you freak out. So just keep that in mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Should I open the next gift? Yes, definitely. Is this
Speaker 2: also from nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, around that time, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2: Run wrapping, run rapping. Oh my god, this really is.
Speaker 2: Oh this is a fascinating combination.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, let's just put it on the table.
Speaker 2: There's CD ROMs. They're CD ROMs. Well, isn't music CD
Speaker 2: called a CD ROM or is it just software? No, well,
Speaker 2: I guess you'd just say CD. We bring up an
Speaker 2: interesting question, you do, and I think I.
Speaker 3: Think it's just CD for music and then CD ROM
Speaker 3: for software.
Speaker 2: Right, so one of these is a CD ROM and
Speaker 2: the other is a CD for Hanson's Middle of Nowhere.
Speaker 2: That's right. This was the first U single I ever bought,
Speaker 2: really bought a cassette tape at Walmart. Oh my god. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: well I mean what other single would I have? Yeah?
Speaker 2: What if I named another you know, I a single
Speaker 2: other song of theirs? And I think it was on
Speaker 2: a cassette type. Yeah, definitely. This was maybe like the
Speaker 2: first run of CDs. Wow, what's your history with Hanson?
Speaker 2: I don't It's all there, that's it.
Speaker 1: It is that.
Speaker 3: I don't even know if this has ever been opened. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm looking at it, and let's see is there a
Speaker 3: CD inside?
Speaker 2: Let's see there is?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: Is it the one? Yeah? It is, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: perfect condition. It's absolutely pristine.
Speaker 3: What if I gave you something this? All of these
Speaker 3: are worth like ten grand?
Speaker 2: Just ruined yourself financially. Yeah. Really, I don't think I
Speaker 2: ever bought the full album. So you saw this CD?
Speaker 2: I mean, like, look how new this is?
Speaker 3: It looks I don't know how this is possible. This
Speaker 3: is I mean, it's actually as if they've been in
Speaker 3: like a temperature control the environment.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not faded in any way. It's crisp
Speaker 2: as the day it was born, and they are all
Speaker 2: the lyrics inside. You're not getting this in a modern
Speaker 2: I mean, can you buy a CD?
Speaker 3: I maybe or maybe even more likely by like the
Speaker 3: vinyl right.
Speaker 2: The vinyl right. But this is a I mean, you
Speaker 2: get all of the lyrics. I wonder if there's a
Speaker 2: thank you. I always loved the thank yous within the
Speaker 2: CD thing. Let's see guitar. Now where they're from? Oklahoma? Wow?
Speaker 2: And now I'm obviously at some point was a thing
Speaker 2: you were a big fan. Yeah, John, would this fact
Speaker 2: check that? I'm almost positive Oklahoma? That feels right. They
Speaker 2: seem so Australian to me. Interesting, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: They have the sunny energy, so Australian Tulsa, Oklahoma. There
Speaker 2: we go. Don't challenge me, Okay, it says thanks to
Speaker 2: Bill Coben, No, these aren't very Oh thanks to Jeff
Speaker 2: Rabhand for his ears, you know, part of the team.
Speaker 3: Anyone that we that we've canceled since the release.
Speaker 2: Of Friends and Family, Dad and Mom, Walker and Diana.
Speaker 2: They have old older sisters and a brother. Oh that
Speaker 2: that hurts to hear when they're such a family oriented thing,
Speaker 2: and siblings were left find a place in the band.
Speaker 2: Yeah for them and our deepest thanks to the one
Speaker 2: plants and waters and causes all things to grow.
Speaker 3: To him at the end to be like the one
Speaker 3: we're talking about.
Speaker 2: God, let's just leave it a little vague, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: will keep everybody involved, yeah, the one, but the one
Speaker 2: hasn't officially been canceled yet, not quite. Yeah, okay, so
Speaker 2: you bought this CD I remember, Yeah, my friend Tyson
Speaker 2: introduced me to them because he had cable and had MTV. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it was immediately Gaga, absolutely for this song, got
Speaker 2: the cassette, and then never. I guess it was one
Speaker 2: of those things when you're that age, you're just kind
Speaker 2: of almost immediately over it. Definitely, definitely Yeah. And then
Speaker 2: I think I was on to Lenny Kravitz for about
Speaker 2: thirty seconds, okay, and then it was that thing you
Speaker 2: do oh and then that kind of was like the
Speaker 2: official launching into like music, like the music exactly. And
Speaker 2: then that was just the beginning stage, right of liking music, right,
Speaker 2: which is an interesting thing because it's a fake band.
Speaker 2: It is not real. No, Hansen, that thing you do back.
Speaker 2: I don't remember what their name was, the Wonders Wonder,
Speaker 2: but I was spelled right right right. What happened for
Speaker 2: you after Hanson?
Speaker 3: Well, I really I think this was more something for
Speaker 3: my sister. I think I just I think I just
Speaker 3: gifted something that was my sister's.
Speaker 2: Who was your first kind of band? Tweet? Tweet? Do
Speaker 2: you know? Oops? Oh my?
Speaker 3: I don't know anything about This was an R and
Speaker 3: B singer, okay, and she had one kind of a
Speaker 3: one hit wonder and it was this song called oops
Speaker 3: oh my, and it was about I think masturbating.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, and I exactly I had no idea that
Speaker 2: was what it was about, but I was, oh my god.
Speaker 3: I listened to this song day in, day out, and
Speaker 3: then my next song that I loved with this other
Speaker 3: really gay song by this I think Australian electronic band
Speaker 3: called Madison Avenue and it was called Don't Call Me Baby,
Speaker 3: and that was that was kind of it. It was
Speaker 3: like those two songs on repeat.
Speaker 2: All of those people are dead now they're all gone. Yeah,
Speaker 2: no one's heard of any of them. You know, Well
Speaker 2: that's they're both really good. I will say, they're introducing
Speaker 2: you to them.
Speaker 3: I think I just saw them on MTV like Late
Speaker 3: at Night.
Speaker 2: Tweet and Madison at madisine at It was a horrible name,
Speaker 2: Oh oh my god, but this song is so good?
Speaker 2: Is it also? R and b No.
Speaker 3: That is like it's like electronic like clubby like music.
Speaker 3: It's so gay, Like if I if it came on
Speaker 3: to the club now, I'd be like, tweet is it
Speaker 3: t w e E T Yeah, like a bird.
Speaker 2: Wow, so ahead of their time. I know, Wow, it's
Speaker 2: gone too soon. I know.
Speaker 3: I think there might be one song on their one
Speaker 3: other song that's okay, but okay.
Speaker 2: And the rest is that was a period when it
Speaker 2: felt like you really could have one song and then
Speaker 2: just fill a CD with garbage. Oh definitely. I mean, Hansoon,
Speaker 2: we're looking at one right here. I we don't know
Speaker 2: any of this. What's another title? No thought was put
Speaker 2: into this. The first is called thinking of You? Okay,
Speaker 2: then we haven't bop number three is weird? Oh yeah?
Speaker 2: Another one? Uh speechless? Where's the love this is? I
Speaker 2: mean it's just like a filler CD. Definitely, just like
Speaker 2: home filler, Like a realtter would put this on a
Speaker 2: T like this is where the teen would live your
Speaker 2: book Look at you, Lucy, I will come to you
Speaker 2: a minute without you, Madeleine with you in your dreams.
Speaker 2: And then there's a bonus track for CD man for
Speaker 2: Milwaukee the Garage mix.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, the other mix of man for They
Speaker 3: didn't want to put that one out yet.
Speaker 2: De Yeah, no one has heard any of these other songs.
Speaker 2: Your book feels like they were aiming for their audience.
Speaker 2: I know they were truly children they look yeah, but
Speaker 2: it was aimed at kind of everybody I know that
Speaker 2: does that happening, does feel like it. I don't feel
Speaker 2: like any adult is being marketed music by a nine
Speaker 2: year old anymore. Not quite right, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't pay attention to that, right, But
Speaker 2: I feel like the youngest pop stars are in like
Speaker 2: their seventeen eighteen, yeah, late teens. Olivia Rodriguez right right,
Speaker 2: and she feels like the youngest successful one. I feel
Speaker 2: like her ken her peer. But at this period, I
Speaker 2: think at least two of them were like ten years old.
Speaker 3: They look tiny. Yeah, they look so young, and.
Speaker 2: Then the oldest one kind of looks like a haggard mom. Definitely. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's the caretaker, he's the Yeah. He ultimately got custody
Speaker 2: of them. Yeah. Okay, so we have Hansoon and then
Speaker 2: you had those two. Hanson was my first band. I
Speaker 2: think then there was just a large dry period I
Speaker 2: think where I didn't listen to music at all.
Speaker 3: Oh, you were kind of listening to Bob for a while,
Speaker 3: over and over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just burning it. I heard it recently and I thought, oh,
Speaker 2: that is a catchy piece of music. Definitely.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I say that nice when that happens when
Speaker 3: you hear when you hear a song that you thought, oh,
Speaker 3: it must be trash. I didn't have good taste back then,
Speaker 3: but I loved it, and then you hear it again,
Speaker 3: you're like, wait a minute, I'll.
Speaker 2: Give myself some respect. This song is good.
Speaker 3: It's actually I liked it, and I deserved to like
Speaker 3: it because it's a good song.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That is a good feeling, because most of the
Speaker 2: things you like as a young person are usually garbage. Yes,
Speaker 2: pure really. Yeah, mmbop is a song that's I can
Speaker 2: see why it sold millions of copies. Yes. Can you
Speaker 2: think of anything you've gone back to that's been bad?
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, well that's a shame, not a thing.
Speaker 2: It's actually kind of hard. Well hmmm, no, yeah, I
Speaker 2: guess I can't. I think I like everything that I like,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I'm like I feel like there was probably
Speaker 2: some of those like late nineties singles that I'd probably like, Wow,
Speaker 2: Natalie and nobody. Oh yeah, but I like it. Okay,
Speaker 2: I need to listen to it again.
Speaker 3: It's beautiful. There was indecision.
Speaker 2: What was the Meredith, Oh what is that Brooks Brooks,
Speaker 2: that sounds right, She's sang a song called Bitch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the one. Another one hit Wonder, I think,
Speaker 3: yeah it is.
Speaker 2: I remember. I think it was in like eighth grade
Speaker 2: or something, and there was like a school dance and
Speaker 2: I put in her request for that song playing looking
Speaker 2: at each other. That's so funny. Yeah, those are the
Speaker 2: two big ones I can remember. I mean, then there
Speaker 2: are bends like third Eye Blind, things like that, like
Speaker 2: I don't think I would in that one.
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't. I don't know if I would have
Speaker 3: like that now.
Speaker 2: I don't know that I'm throwing them on up. There
Speaker 2: was like that period of like new metal. Yeah that
Speaker 2: is biscuit kid rock. That is just objectively bad musick. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But even then, it's like there's some time and place
Speaker 3: for everything you can listen to that.
Speaker 1: I can.
Speaker 2: I can get into Creed even yes, which song higher.
Speaker 3: I can get into it. I can really listen to
Speaker 3: higher and like I am. I cannot believe I am
Speaker 3: a gay man listening to Creed right now?
Speaker 2: In what situation would you listen to it? Privately? But
Speaker 2: even but maybe I dip my toes. Oh, let's play
Speaker 2: this song. Let's put this song? What's this?
Speaker 3: I'll try this and play it in front of friends
Speaker 3: just to see.
Speaker 2: But you can.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's actually kind of it's you can get
Speaker 3: into it.
Speaker 2: And you're able to listen to it and enjoy it. Sincerely.
Speaker 3: Yes, Wow, that's inaudible. I don't know what happened.
Speaker 2: Powerful piece of music, I know, absolutely powerful. I can't remember.
Speaker 2: There are other songs.
Speaker 3: I think maybe that's it. Yeah, now there's a couple.
Speaker 2: But then I think of the other songs. I think
Speaker 2: of Ore, I think Nickelback's songs. John is what course?
Speaker 2: Thank you for that? Yeah? I was going to say,
Speaker 2: is higher than one about having a baby, but having one,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I like that one as much. Well,
Speaker 2: you're not a father, I'm not yet. It's gonna hit
Speaker 2: pretty hard.
Speaker 3: The second I exit that adoption agency.
Speaker 2: They just hear that blasting out of your car like
Speaker 2: another happy baby baby screaming in the back. Oh, wow. Okay,
Speaker 2: and then we of course we haven't even talked about
Speaker 2: the second CD rare in backyard. Do you do you
Speaker 2: know about this? I'm not familiar with this.
Speaker 3: Well, this one is kind of a deep cut.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: This was like one of the first like computer games.
Speaker 3: And it's this very very beautiful world where everybody plays
Speaker 3: sports and everybody's good at sports and we can have
Speaker 3: we can have everybody have fun playing sports.
Speaker 2: Very inclusive.
Speaker 3: It's very inclusive. There's like players on there who you
Speaker 3: can play. There's like a person in a wheelchair who's
Speaker 3: playing football and he's the star player. It's not kind
Speaker 3: of thing. Oh, this is wonderful and you can click around.
Speaker 3: It's very rudimentary.
Speaker 2: It's for kids.
Speaker 3: I think it says five five to ten. It's a
Speaker 3: big gap, Yes, big intelligence gap.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they're trying to sell more. Yeah, five
Speaker 2: to thirty.
Speaker 3: Squeeze them in there exactly. But oh, well, this is
Speaker 3: worth what how much is it worth?
Speaker 2: John is showing us you're lying and it's being sold
Speaker 2: for one hundred and sixty six dollars. What is the
Speaker 2: value of what I just gave you? This is like
Speaker 2: you win, you would win this on the prices.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm blowing away. There's no way what what is
Speaker 3: this worth?
Speaker 2: Anything?
Speaker 3: Is the CD inside? That's the thing I kind of
Speaker 3: grabbed it. Oh no, wait, so what's in there? What's
Speaker 3: inside there?
Speaker 2: Pocon animated story? This is a completely different thing. I
Speaker 2: guess is probably like a you probably click through a
Speaker 2: story or something. Well, how much is that one? I've
Speaker 2: been totally blindsided by whatever. Really we're combined. Maybe this
Speaker 2: was a factory defect, like you got that storybook in
Speaker 2: the football game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this one's the one that's really worth thirty five
Speaker 3: k oh, this is shocking Alan away by that.
Speaker 2: Wow, what a surprise I'm opening. I'm going to see
Speaker 2: the quality of this again. Well a little smudge, a
Speaker 2: little jam or some twenty I mean still to be
Speaker 2: paying twenty dollars for this in twenty twenty four is
Speaker 2: an interesting thing too. Wow. Wow, so wow, I don't
Speaker 2: even I'm speechless.
Speaker 3: I think absolutely anyone would be rendered speechless.
Speaker 2: Year. But you were playing backyard football. I was.
Speaker 3: But backyard baseball is the one that I think people
Speaker 3: played really Okay, it's a little easier to play I
Speaker 3: think on the on the computer, and like it's just
Speaker 3: the iconic version of Backyard Sports. Okay, but it's like
Speaker 3: one of the very first like computer games that came out.
Speaker 2: I didn't get you into.
Speaker 3: Sports, no, no, no, no no. It got me into equality,
Speaker 3: your first peak exactly. It got me into imagining a
Speaker 3: better future. But that's about it.
Speaker 2: But did you enjoy playing the game? Yeah? I did.
Speaker 3: I played it with my friend Jason, so you could
Speaker 3: play two players, well kind of one of them would
Speaker 3: kind of be sitting next to you.
Speaker 2: I mean it looks like crap.
Speaker 3: It definitely definitely wasn't a beautiful game, just kind of
Speaker 3: click around.
Speaker 2: You definitely click around. Yeah. Yeah, gosh, it's a kid's
Speaker 2: version of some of NBA. Oh it has kid versions
Speaker 2: of the players like Dan Marino's. Oh that did not
Speaker 2: hit home with me. You over who cares? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Did you play other video games? I did?
Speaker 3: Well, what I would really do is I'd go home
Speaker 3: and play World of Warcraft and watch and watch Rachel
Speaker 3: Ray at the same time.
Speaker 2: That was the missing piece. Wow, multitasking such an interesting.
Speaker 3: I needed the sound and then the visual experience.
Speaker 2: World of Warcraft is online. Yes, were you really deep
Speaker 2: into that? Yeah? Oh man? Yeah, for how long? Years.
Speaker 2: Would you like have friends on it? How does? I
Speaker 2: don't really know how it works.
Speaker 3: You could make friends, but they were far away. And
Speaker 3: then there was one time I had like a real
Speaker 3: life friend who played it once, and it was kind
Speaker 3: of like, let's just keep this private, let's not really
Speaker 3: engage with each other in that dimension.
Speaker 2: We're showing sides of ourselves at home.
Speaker 3: But oh man, it really got me hooked. But it
Speaker 3: was a little too mask so I needed the like
Speaker 3: sound in the background. Really that combo really hits. I
Speaker 3: will say, that makes perfect sense to me. Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: that makes absolute sense. And so but you get into
Speaker 3: the game, you like create a little man or once
Speaker 3: and just run around killing things.
Speaker 2: Is that yeah, essentially.
Speaker 3: Requests killing things? And it was a slog was I
Speaker 3: mean months months to get like to the point where you're.
Speaker 2: Done kind of Oh so there is an end to it,
Speaker 2: well kind of.
Speaker 3: But they kept adding things and then you got to
Speaker 3: the max level and then you did like little more
Speaker 3: quests and you wanted to get like fancier items and things, right,
Speaker 3: and that was kind of where the game really started.
Speaker 3: But I don't think I got to that point. I
Speaker 3: think I I kind of you.
Speaker 2: Were done with it, I think so. And are you
Speaker 2: do you have to buy things with real world money
Speaker 2: or is this before that sort of thing you had
Speaker 2: to pay a subscription? Right?
Speaker 3: So right, I'm not sure how that where that money
Speaker 3: came from. But I have an idea.
Speaker 2: Where your parents ever concerned. Were that ever, like, Joe,
Speaker 2: please stop playing video playing this? Yes? Definitely, definitely definitely
Speaker 2: And with your.
Speaker 3: Parents, no, I think I got good grades and I
Speaker 3: was a good kid, so they were kind of like
Speaker 3: something must be working in all this. But yeah, it
Speaker 3: was man, it was fun and I have like nostalgia now.
Speaker 2: Have I tried to go back and play, and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have, and it's not quite the same, but
Speaker 3: it's it's funny, like I really have, Like some people
Speaker 3: reminisce about like being on the soccer field, and I
Speaker 3: literally reminisce about running through tears.
Speaker 2: Fall glades like in you know, It's wild, that's incredible.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I have a lot of nostalgia tied
Speaker 2: to video games. And did you you played video games? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I think it was a similar thing where
Speaker 2: I played them NonStop, and I think my parents had
Speaker 2: like a hovering concern that was never real. I remember
Speaker 2: my dad, I think at one point tried to stop
Speaker 2: me from getting a Nintendo sixty four, but my mom
Speaker 2: ultimately won over. I think they were like, well, what
Speaker 2: else is he going to do? Yeh, he's found something.
Speaker 2: This thing is not capable of anything, just leave him alone. Wait,
Speaker 2: so what did you play? Like Zeldazelda Banjo kazuis ah,
Speaker 2: my gotcha? Yes, and then you know, just I played
Speaker 2: video games now still obviously yes, it kind of progressed
Speaker 2: from there, but I've never kind of gotten into like
Speaker 2: violent video games. They stress me out. I agree. I'll like,
Speaker 2: occasionally people will be talking about a violent video game.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I have to try this, and then I
Speaker 2: am panicking, like this isn't why I would play this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't want to be scared. Resident Evil my brother played.
Speaker 2: I've played one of those, and I did enjoy it.
Speaker 3: It's kind of cute now, like in hindsight, they're really
Speaker 3: bad graphics, But when I first came out, I was
Speaker 3: really scared.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course, really really really scared, horrifying. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: I tried playing Resident Evil four recently and I was
Speaker 2: still scared to death, screaming. I don't like that.
Speaker 3: I like, I don't like being with the controller when
Speaker 3: you're scared. I don't play well in those conditions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need something it's a little bit more laid
Speaker 2: back and soothing. Yes, definitely kind of a Soma type thing.
Speaker 2: Are you playing any video games right now? No, I'm not.
Speaker 2: I wish what a shame.
Speaker 3: I did play something recently. I played Balder's Gate.
Speaker 2: People love that thing. It is Oh my god, people go, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is the reaction I've heard from every single person. Incredible,
Speaker 2: And I don't understand what's happening. Well, you can have sex, well,
Speaker 2: I've played the Sims show, but you can see it
Speaker 2: this time.
Speaker 3: What kind of Yes, and they're not just doing missionary
Speaker 3: straight guy girl, they're going there's pegging.
Speaker 2: They do it all what yeah? Why?
Speaker 3: And you can do everyone's Everyone's pan, everyone's boat.
Speaker 2: Yes. So it's kind of the backyard football modern video games. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's the kind of logical conclusion of that. It also
Speaker 2: character Yeah that's funny. Well that's interesting. So you're basically
Speaker 2: like choosing what's happening in every element.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything is like a choice. You're kind of you're
Speaker 3: very in control and you have these very serious, like
Speaker 3: moral dilemmas. You have to wow pick and there's pros
Speaker 3: and cons to each. It's very fun.
Speaker 2: It feels like it would completely take over your life. Well, yes,
Speaker 2: maybe I should give it a shot, but I've never
Speaker 2: played because it's like Dungeons and Dragons. It's exactly dungeons.
Speaker 2: So you've played Dungeons. I hadn't until okay and I
Speaker 2: could play it. Then have you played it? I never
Speaker 2: played Dungeons and Dragons, so I thought, oh, this will
Speaker 2: be over my head.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, they make it very accessible. They don't
Speaker 3: even advertise it as Dungeons and Dragons. I was, well,
Speaker 3: this is different, this is a different thing. And then
Speaker 3: I had someone tell me after the fact that it's
Speaker 3: the same.
Speaker 2: Thing, and they're so ashamed. I know, it's like, why
Speaker 2: hide that? You know? What are you scared of?
Speaker 1: There?
Speaker 2: Everyone knows? I know, how do I even know? I know? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's really good though, Yeah, okay, well maybe I'll try that.
Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds absolutely out of control. The sex thing.
Speaker 2: I just I know, interesting that like a whole group
Speaker 2: of adults was working to make this happen.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and they keep adding more sex hot fix,
Speaker 3: there's more sex. We added a hot fix, so there's
Speaker 3: more sex scenes.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, do we have anything left to say about Backyard?
Speaker 2: I mean this treasure trope that I've gotten, I know,
Speaker 2: what are you going to do with it? I have
Speaker 2: I'm buying a car, two snowmobiles, job of course. No,
Speaker 2: these will clutter my home for a long definitely coasters, yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: so then eventually I'll I'll die and my nieces will
Speaker 2: be like, well, what what do we do with any
Speaker 2: of them? They'll be even more valuable. Yeah, I mean imagine.
Speaker 3: I hope you have a proper storage unit for this.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, I could be on Storage Wars at some point,
Speaker 2: I hope. So I'm going to fake my death in
Speaker 2: order to be on Storage Wars. Have a whole thing
Speaker 2: full of stuff, fake my death and then they open it.
Speaker 2: I've got a count. I need to think through the details,
Speaker 2: but it could work. I think it's a brilliant idea. Well,
Speaker 2: I think it's time to play a game. We're going
Speaker 2: to play a game called Gift or a Curse, and
Speaker 2: I need a number between one and ten from you.
Speaker 2: Uh two, Okay, I have to do a little bit
Speaker 2: of light calculating to get our game pieces. So right
Speaker 2: now you can promote, recommend, do whatever.
Speaker 3: You want with the microph. I see, well, I don't.
Speaker 3: I wanted to promote my I always feel weird promoting.
Speaker 3: But you guys can follow me on my social media
Speaker 3: at Joe Castle Baker and I produce shows monthly in Brooklyn,
Speaker 3: and I do shows in LA sometimes. And yeah, you
Speaker 3: can catch me on TV on some TV shows and
Speaker 3: you can look me up on IMDb where I where
Speaker 3: I really shine the brightest.
Speaker 2: That's great. I mean, promoting something is the most uncomfortable
Speaker 2: thing in the world, in the world, especially when I
Speaker 2: just blindside you with it. No, but you did an
Speaker 2: excellent show. Thank you so much. Buddy followed Joe, go
Speaker 2: harass Joe. This is how we play Gift or a Curse.
Speaker 2: I'm going to name three things you're going to tell
Speaker 2: me if they're do not look at the screen, Okay,
Speaker 2: I won't.
Speaker 3: I'm blind by the way, I can't see anything asks
Speaker 3: one foot in front of me.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna name three things. You'll tell me if there
Speaker 2: each one is a gift or a curse and why? Okay,
Speaker 2: And then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong,
Speaker 2: because they're correct answers and you can lose. Okay, this
Speaker 2: number first one is from a listener named Parker Gift
Speaker 2: or a curse No show socks curse? Why? Well, first
Speaker 2: of all, what are you scared of? What are you
Speaker 2: trying to hide?
Speaker 3: And also what you think your ankles are so beautiful?
Speaker 3: Let's you know, have a little humility and show show
Speaker 3: those socks.
Speaker 2: We know they're there.
Speaker 3: And so I think it's a curse. I think it's
Speaker 3: for people who have everything wrong about society.
Speaker 2: Joe wrong. What a horrible way you're lying.
Speaker 1: What gift?
Speaker 2: There's a time and a season for everything. Sure, no
Speaker 2: show socks. They've got to have a purpus.
Speaker 3: I'm really scared where we're sitting here.
Speaker 2: Maybe some people their only good quality is their ankle,
Speaker 2: and what are they supposed to.
Speaker 3: So you are so right, that is not the backyard
Speaker 3: football thing for me to write.
Speaker 2: You've got to be a little bit more, you know,
Speaker 2: just entirely positive about everything, including the ankle. Okay, and
Speaker 2: the no show sock is maybe for that sort of person, yes,
Speaker 2: And also you know, maybe somebody over invested in no
Speaker 2: show socks and they're thinking, well, now I want to
Speaker 2: knee sock, but I've got too many of these and
Speaker 2: they feel horrible.
Speaker 3: This is really painting a picture that's changing my mind.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm hoping that there's some level of guilt surging
Speaker 2: through your body. Okay, so one is wrong so far,
Speaker 2: and that's bad. Number two This is from a listener
Speaker 2: named Ben Gift or a curse food adjectives for non
Speaker 2: food items, for example, on My Lottery dream Home. In
Speaker 2: quotes this yummy closet. That was the word I was
Speaker 2: thinking of, too.
Speaker 3: Absolute curse, absolute curse. I just I find it to
Speaker 3: be very perverse, and I use that word very I
Speaker 3: don't use it lightly. Let's just say that I think
Speaker 3: when we start accusing people of being perverts, it goes
Speaker 3: to a new level of almost like a witch hunt.
Speaker 3: And this is where the witch hunt needs to go.
Speaker 3: People that say yum, yummy, ooh that looks so delose
Speaker 3: or even sexy about something that's not sexual, that too
Speaker 3: feels similar. I'm like, oh, God, like got a grip,
Speaker 3: you know, Like it's like it's like your mind is
Speaker 3: so loose that you can't even think. Everything's kind of blending,
Speaker 3: you know, have some you know pull up those socks
Speaker 3: and start using the right word. You know, that's what
Speaker 3: I would think, Joe, wrong, You're lying, is what's going
Speaker 3: on here.
Speaker 2: This is a gift. To hear somebody say yummy in
Speaker 2: any situation is a shock to the system. And I
Speaker 2: absolutely I mean talk about feeling alive to be in
Speaker 2: the presence of someone who's called something a yummy closet.
Speaker 2: Oh god, we should be using all kinds of food adjectives.
Speaker 2: Melt in your mouth that could be used for anybody.
Speaker 2: This melt in your mouth microphone I'm holding right now,
Speaker 2: this backyard is absolutely melt in your mouth. It makes sense. Okay,
Speaker 2: wrong again and everyone is disappointed. I bet we've lost
Speaker 2: a lot of listeners. Just kind of turn it off,
Speaker 2: wait for the next episode, and that's okay. You've gotten
Speaker 2: zero so far. Number three. This is from a listener
Speaker 2: named Jennifer Gift or a curse typing in www dot
Speaker 2: before a website.
Speaker 3: I say, Gift, Why, well, I think it's almost kind
Speaker 3: of like somebody who makes their own yogurt or something
Speaker 3: like that, you know, like it's like you don't need to,
Speaker 3: you don't need to.
Speaker 2: We've made it easier for you.
Speaker 3: But it's almost like we're reminding ourselves of a time
Speaker 3: that's not here anymore, and it's this it's almost kind
Speaker 3: of like getting back to the basics in this beautiful way.
Speaker 3: So I think it's a gift. And how much does
Speaker 3: it cost? What a second of your time? I think
Speaker 3: it's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Correct, there we go. You got a point. Thank god,
Speaker 2: that's a gift, putting in the little extra work, show
Speaker 2: some respect to the U r L. Exactly. I think
Speaker 2: it's nice. It is kind of a farm to table
Speaker 2: type thing, you know, very we're just uh talking about
Speaker 2: yet that Yeah, that is a yummy you are exactly, Yeah,
Speaker 2: absolutely right. I mean you said it so beautifully. I
Speaker 2: can't even add to that. And I'm glad you got
Speaker 2: one point. I'm glad too, because we were all rooting
Speaker 2: for you ultimately, and if you had lost, I don't
Speaker 2: know what would have happened.
Speaker 3: I'm noticing a theme here.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna stay true to my guns and say
Speaker 3: when it's a curse, even when I don't, even when
Speaker 3: society might be a.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you got one right. I think it's
Speaker 2: time for the final segment of the podcast. This is called.
Speaker 2: I said, no emails, people write into I said, no
Speaker 2: gifts at gmail dot com. Desperate for answers, begging, just
Speaker 2: pleading for help. Will you help me answer a question? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 2: this is deer Bridger and guest. My husband turns forty
Speaker 2: this year and I am unsure what to get him.
Speaker 2: Turning forty seems like an event, but he has given
Speaker 2: no indication how he would like to spend his birthday
Speaker 2: or what he would like. He loves running Formula one,
Speaker 2: racing and making things. That's a very broad thing or whatever.
Speaker 2: The tricky part is that I turn forty only six
Speaker 2: weeks after him. Anything I do for his birthday sets
Speaker 2: the bar for mine, so if I do something big,
Speaker 2: he may feel obligated to do something over the top
Speaker 2: for me. Plus, I am worried that all my ideas
Speaker 2: are actually how I would want to spend my day
Speaker 2: slash gifts I would want, so I'm having a hard
Speaker 2: time making a decision. Last part is that I always
Speaker 2: think I have a good idea for him, and he
Speaker 2: is regularly underwhelmed. This adds to my indecision. Any help
Speaker 2: you could provide would be appreciated. Thank you, And that's
Speaker 2: from Katie, whoa, I mean dump him? Yes? Are you
Speaker 2: ever liked any of her gifts?
Speaker 3: And spend some time thinking about yourself? You know, I'm
Speaker 3: blown away. I don't know where to even begin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you get for a forty year old
Speaker 2: man who wants to who likes racing cars and running?
Speaker 2: Guess he likes to go fast of speed? Yeah? What's
Speaker 2: a third fast object you could get this person? Tesla?
Speaker 3: I don't know, I am in I guess you know what.
Speaker 3: Don't worry about your birthday. Let him handle that. That'll
Speaker 3: take one thing off the table.
Speaker 2: Stop worrying about yourself.
Speaker 3: It'sop worrying about yourself. Quit being self exactly, and maybe
Speaker 3: you can buy a better guess.
Speaker 2: Think more about your husband. Think about your husband constantly. Yes,
Speaker 2: this man who doesn't care about anything you've ever given
Speaker 2: him exactly?
Speaker 3: Well, look, I think you have to. I wish you
Speaker 3: had told us what you had given him in the past.
Speaker 2: Right that's been yeah exactly, because I mean she only
Speaker 2: knows three things about him. I know how long have
Speaker 2: you been together? I mean it's probably decades. I imagine
Speaker 2: probably forty years.
Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, it's one of those infancy marriages. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't even know. I think, I mean, why, no doubt,
Speaker 3: give four gifts, that's how I get Yeah, do multiple gifts?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you like it's kind of a throwing what does
Speaker 2: the phrase throwing spaghetti? Yes, exactly, something will stick exactly.
Speaker 2: And if he's unhappy with all of them, then he's
Speaker 2: obviously trying to undermine her exactly. And what's going on there? Right,
Speaker 2: there's trouble brewing. There's divorce in the future, yes, which
Speaker 2: we do recommend. Yes, hire an attorney right now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe that's the gift she always wants to spend the
Speaker 2: day with a uh, divorce, Katie, you have so many
Speaker 2: options here. I don't even know if we have anything
Speaker 2: else we can say about this.
Speaker 3: I would say, go on a trip. Go on a
Speaker 3: trip so that he can maybe discover new interests.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, right, yeah, yeah, go somewhere that doesn't involve
Speaker 2: where he won't be able to run, where he can
Speaker 2: slow down. Yeah, somewhere with a hammock exactly, spa I
Speaker 2: recommended a spat earlier on this podcast, exactly. I mean,
Speaker 2: go to that one that could take care of a
Speaker 2: lot of books for you, Katie. Yes, I think we
Speaker 2: answered it perfectly, I agree, And if she complains, then
Speaker 2: she's obviously catching this from her husband. And it's a
Speaker 2: poisonous relationship varies. It's spreading out into podcasts, Yes, toxic.
Speaker 2: A bit at home, Katie. Happy fortieth birthday to you
Speaker 2: and yours. Don't write back, Joe. I can't believe the
Speaker 2: retail value of what you've given me today. I can't either. Devastating.
Speaker 2: I'm blown away.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm really lucky that I'm going to find
Speaker 3: that Backyard Football CD run back home.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like this is a moral dilemma.
Speaker 3: For me, I know, I mean, how much is that
Speaker 3: Hanson CD. We didn't even look up the Hanson CD
Speaker 3: or the cookbook? God knows how much. I'm told you
Speaker 3: know how much value there is there?
Speaker 2: Right, I'm sure this is probably over fifty thousand dollars gifts,
Speaker 2: and so I could probably take off a year of
Speaker 2: podcasting just stop, just give it up, you know, and
Speaker 2: go treat myself. Yes, exactly, go on a little vacation
Speaker 2: with hadian husband. Well, thank you for being here. I've
Speaker 2: had a wonderful time. Likewise, thanks for having me listener.
Speaker 2: The podcast is over. If you hadn't already left. It's
Speaker 2: time to stop, and you're listening. Do something else with
Speaker 2: your day. I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts
Speaker 2: is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear
Speaker 2: friend Analise Nilson, and it's beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday.
Speaker 2: And we couldn't do it without our guests. Booker Patrick Coottner.
Speaker 2: The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle
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Speaker 2: at I said no Gifts. I don't want to hear
Speaker 2: any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of
Speaker 2: all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want
Speaker 2: to see pictures of the gifts? And I invited you hear.
Speaker 1: Though a man myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest
Speaker 1: to Ma, you gotta come to me empty. And I said,
Speaker 1: no gifts. Your presences presence enough, and I'm already too
Speaker 1: much stuff, So how do you dare to survey me