1 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here. I thought I made myself 2 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: perfectly clear. But you're a guess to mah, you gotta 3 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: come to me empty And I said, no, guess your 4 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: presences presence enough. I already had too much stuff. So 5 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: how do you dad to surbey mean? 6 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: We are less than a week away from the live 7 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: show on June twenty sixth, seven thirty pm Dynasty Typewriter. 8 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: We've got Blair Saki, Carl Tart, Rob Hubal. What a 9 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: gorgeous asling lineup, and there'll be a variety of other surprises. 10 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you what those are. You'll 11 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: find out when you watch it. That's how surprises work. 12 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: Maybe I'll have an emotional meltdown on stage. That's a 13 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: very real possibility. If you're going to see all this unfold, 14 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: you need to buy the live stream at Dynasty typewriter 15 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: dot com. Tickets sold out, you know, a million years ago, 16 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: but you still can buy the live stream Dynasty typewriter 17 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: dot com. And now it's time for the podcast. Welcome 18 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: to I said, no gifts. I'm Bridger Wineger. We're in 19 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 2: the backyard. I hope you're doing well. Analish is not here. 20 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 2: This week after they tried to shoot me last week. 21 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: I sadly had to have them arrested. Ah, so we'll 22 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: just see what the court system decides and see if 23 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: they're allowed back to produce the podcast. But in the meantime, 24 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: we have our friend John Bradley here. John, Welcome to 25 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: the podcast. And oh there's nothing else else. I'm getting 26 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: a new dishwasher. I can't wait. Let's get into the show. 27 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: I adore today's guest. It's Joe Castle Baker. Joe, welcome 28 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: to I said no gifts. 29 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. It is a 30 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: pleasure to be here in your beautiful backyard. 31 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: It's a pleasure to have you here. And you've got 32 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: a diet doctor pepper. 33 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 3: I brought only one, which I think is a really 34 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: a kind of mark against my character. 35 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: Really sorry, very crass. Is it cold? It's cold? 36 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: It's cold? 37 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 2: Is that your soda of choice? 38 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 3: It has become that since when, well since I had 39 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 3: one maybe a year and a half ago and fell 40 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: in love. 41 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: It's that set. Yes, Wow, what were you drinking prior 42 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: to that? Die Coke? Oh? 43 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: Of course, I know, I know. I like both. 44 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: They're both good drinks. But diet doctor Pepper. 45 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 3: There's something about it. If you haven't had it yet, 46 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 3: you really got to try it. 47 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: It's a very I mean, it's got a great sweetness. 48 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: It has the perfect sweetness, and it tastes very similar 49 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: to the regular, but it has its own quality for sure. 50 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: It's more of a little sister than diet Coke is 51 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: to coke exactly. It's a different drink. 52 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 3: Diet Coke is a different drink. It might as well 53 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: be a different company in my opinion. People aren't gonna 54 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 3: like that, but it is. 55 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think diet doctor Pepper. I haven't had regular 56 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: doctor Pepper really really long telling either. Actually I should 57 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: probably try, yeah, to see if you're even I mean, 58 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: if that's equal to say that, Yeah, I've been saying 59 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: so confident. 60 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: I know, really I like this. It's very very good though. 61 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: And then they had a doctor Pepper called doctor Pepper ten. 62 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: Do you remember this? I think I do. Where it 63 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: was ten calories and it was for men and this 64 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: was not that long. 65 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: Wow, So I'm drinking the women's drink. 66 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: I ultimately drinking. 67 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: I'm sunned. I mean, I'm happy with that they discontinued ten. 68 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: I assume I would assume. I don't think that it 69 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: launched in the way that they wanted it to. Wide 70 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: a disappointment, just an immediate backlash. Why only I think 71 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: that's so funny. Ten calories? Men can handle ten. 72 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: They can handle ten. What did they do to give 73 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: it ten calories? What did they put right? 74 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: They got so close to. 75 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 3: Zero, so close it's like just a little bit. 76 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 2: Men are not going to drink this if it's zebra exactly. 77 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: They drive their something like that. You know. That's kind 78 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 2: of how the commercials were for Doctor Pepper ten. They 79 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 2: were like kind of aggressive and masculine. That's so wild. 80 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: I mean, there there's that whole industry of kind of 81 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: things that you know, are perceived as women products and 82 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: are now kind of being marketed to men. Uh dude, wipes, 83 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: Oh god. Even saying that out loud, it's just it's scary. 84 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: But Doctor Piper ten was kind of a pioneer. I think. 85 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: I think so dropped the ball. 86 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: They really did. If they had come out with that, 87 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: now I might try it. I've had I used I 88 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: was spraying ax for women for a second. 89 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 2: Wait, there's an actual xen. 90 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: Ax for women, and it's called anarchy and it's in white, 91 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: the bottle is white, and it's called Anarchy for her, 92 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: and I was like, Okay, well, maybe I'll give it 93 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 3: a shot. I was kind of desperate. I was at 94 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 3: a gas station looking for deodorant, and I was like, 95 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: this is the option. This was the best option I 96 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: could get. And I kind of, you know, I didn't 97 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 3: mind it. 98 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: What does it smell like? 99 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 3: I honestly I don't remember it was. It was not good. 100 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: It wasn't really feminine. But except for the packaging, which 101 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 3: looked a little feminine, was. 102 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 2: The branding like the anarchy A with the circle around. 103 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: They didn't include that. That's interesting. It feels like a 104 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: very obvious I. 105 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: Don't I think that was a little too far for them. 106 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 3: But they just had Anarchy for her, and then instead 107 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: of black, it was white, just to make it really clear. 108 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: Different different, different, different, different different. 109 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: I want to get my eyes on an Anarchy for her. 110 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to google this really. Yeah. I can't believe 111 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: that this has never crossed my radar, because that is 112 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 2: a terrible brand. 113 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: I only saw it once at a gas station in Ohi, California, 114 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: and then I maybe saw it again. I got a target, 115 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 3: but it's very rare. 116 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: Wow. Oh and it's got some pink. 117 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 3: Yes, it definitely has some pink. 118 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: I forgot. Wow, it's bad branding. That's bad. It's definitely 119 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: bad because it does say axe yes, but then daily 120 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: fragrance and then beneath that anarchy for her. Yes. 121 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: Wait, that actually looks a little more what you're looking 122 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 3: at here for your computer looks a little more refined 123 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 3: than what I remember. 124 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: You may have gotten kind of a crow. 125 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe interesting. 126 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: I would love to smell some anarchy for her. I 127 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: thought that X had gone away completely. I thought that 128 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: after two thousand and nine they kind of said, we've 129 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: got to find a new name for this brand. But 130 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: oh and looks of a shower gel. Oh my, you 131 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: can smell. And then there's some kind of kind of 132 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 2: a wizard looking man and his review is actually good. Yes, 133 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: I agree. His hand is glowing. 134 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's what happens. 135 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, but this is a whole new world. 136 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: I know, what were you doing in OHI it was 137 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: my sister's wedding, so you know I had to smell 138 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: really good. 139 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: To smell like gas station exactly. 140 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and no complaints about how I smelled and I 141 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: officiated the wedding, so wow, you know I, uh. 142 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, people caught a whiff of you and said, get 143 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: rid of the other person, Joe exactly. 144 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: They got rid of the Catholic priest. And I stood 145 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: there and said, they're not they're not. 146 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: Got what are you wearing now? 147 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: Right now, I'm wearing my classic arm and hammer. 148 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: Armand hammer. Yes, it's really good. Does it just smell 149 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: like baking soda? 150 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 3: It smells like nothing, nothing, and it's great. I used 151 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: to be so sweaty when I was younger, right, really 152 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 3: sweaty that I'd have to wear like the deodorant at 153 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: night before. 154 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: Wow, just to prepare your body for it. 155 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: Yes, and then what happens is the sweat moves elsewhere, 156 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 3: And so then I started sweating profusely in my butt crack, 157 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 3: is true. 158 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: Yes, the bodies like the water has to We got 159 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: to release this somehow. Yeah. 160 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: And so then I would sit up, the seat would 161 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: be perfect butt cheek imprint wet through my jeans and 162 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 3: then I'd have just a little slit of water. 163 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: Myra this is mortifying. 164 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And I was sixteen seventy something like that. 165 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: Hell, so were you like seeing a doctor about it. No, No, 166 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: you were kept a private. I kept it really tight, 167 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: you know, really sharing it with medical. Wow, that's really interesting. 168 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: But then you switch to arm and a hammer. 169 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that Actually I still sweat a lot from everything. 170 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: We live in New York. I mean during heat yeah. 171 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: Oh and the heat there. 172 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I sweat everywhere, real wet heat. But it works. 173 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: It doesn't make me smell bad. And then I don't 174 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 3: get stains on my shirt that kind of thing. 175 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: Right, right, So I assume it's an antiperspirant. 176 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: No, it's not deodorant. It's just deodorant. And then it 177 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: does have baking soda. 178 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: Oh wow, I should try that. 179 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 3: It's really I can't praise it enough. It is really good. 180 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: I have very sensitive armpits. Oh really. I used to 181 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: use speedstick, which I think is probably garbage. Well, I 182 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 2: think I don't know what am I to say. It's 183 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 2: probably actually good. I'm sure this wizard is rebuted it 184 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 2: as something. But then I switched to something else, maybe 185 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 2: old spice for a period. Yes, absolutely burned me, really 186 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: literally burned my skin. So I don't know if it's 187 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: the product's fault or my body's fault. Interesting, but now 188 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 2: I'm I'm in Dove, Dove, Dove, but Dove for men. There, 189 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: that's what it's in a gray case. 190 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: That's the one where I'm kind of like, I got it. 191 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: It makes sense. I got it. I feel like Dove 192 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: has done it in a tasteful way. I agree. Why 193 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: is that, I guess because they have never really it 194 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: wasn't it didn't feel aggressive. It's still called Dove. 195 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still kind of feminine. 196 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: It's not right. I didn't like call it hawk no eagle, yeah, 197 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: or like predator or something. We're a brand usually for women, 198 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: and now we're a brand for everyone. The sense are 199 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: kind of thoughtful. 200 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: They are, they really are. They're very thoughtful. I can't 201 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 3: think of a one, but I believe it. 202 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 2: I don't know what I mine is, but it's a 203 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 2: pleasant slue. It's kind of a bluish sometimes they have 204 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: like a one that's like ocean are the words they're 205 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: using to describe, of course, Yeah, the ocean smells really 206 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: not the best smell, but fish and salt fish and yeah, 207 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 2: god knows sewage, yeah, just free roaming suits. Yeah, and 208 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: then I also use the Dove showered I've really bought 209 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: into really in it. Yeah, I guess you know, whatever 210 00:10:58,600 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 2: they were doing caught me. 211 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 3: Now I believe it and I get it. I think 212 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 3: I've had that and the squirt bottle tall with. 213 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: The well we're using the one that's not. I would 214 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: love to have a square bottle tall, but I don't 215 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: think there's room on my shower shelf for that. You're 216 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: more humble, I'm a more humble, yea humble beginnings, And 217 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: so we have the one that's more of a squeeze 218 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: from the middle. SSS. Do shower jail or a body soap? 219 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 2: I do a bar a bar? I know, Oh I 220 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: said shower jail or body soap? Those are the same thing. Well, 221 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: the bodies are, that's bar bodies open bar of soap. 222 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: I know, I don't really love it, but I bought 223 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 3: a twenty pack or something and I'm now I'm stuck 224 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: for until twenty twenty six or something. You know, there's 225 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 3: nothing I can do about it. 226 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: I don't think as an adult, I've ever used a 227 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: bar of soap. 228 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 3: I know, I don't know what happened to me when 229 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 3: I decided to do this, and now I'm stuck. 230 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: Do you have to use a washcloth? I do. Okay, 231 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: so it's a whole thing. You've really pictured it out. 232 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah it is. I have to a washcloth. 233 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: I use a Korean washcloth that I would say scrapes 234 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 3: off the first layer of skin every time. 235 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: Oh see this sounds very appealing. No, it's good. 236 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 3: It was something I saw on a TikTok and I 237 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 3: thought let's give it a shot. 238 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: It's a care so is it rough? It's rough and 239 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: it's but it's still like flexible like. 240 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and it's actually a glove and you stick 241 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 3: your hand in it, okay, grab the soap. It gets 242 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: it picks up that soap real nice, and then it 243 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 3: just rips off off the skin on your body and 244 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: it is really I mean, it works. I want to 245 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: try this now you I don't know if you can 246 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: handle it. 247 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 2: There's a good chance I couldn't. But I have had 248 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: a Korean body scrub before. I haven't had that. It's 249 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: incredible and like a U parlor pizza parlor. No, it's 250 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 2: called Wee spaw. And I was about to go today, 251 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: you were, I was well. Then I ruined your day. 252 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 3: Well, and now it's I can't possibly do something that 253 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 3: somebody has told me to do now now I love 254 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: it there. 255 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: Oh it's great. You get to wear their shorts and 256 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 2: their backing shirt. 257 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 3: I thought that you couldn't get a massage there. 258 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: You can't get a massage. Now this is when we're 259 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: going back to men and women. Women can get a 260 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: massage there. They have all these services for women. Men 261 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: can only get scrubbed. I see interesting, which you know 262 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: again it say you can only get the most aggressive 263 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: thing if you're a man. I got that. I mean, 264 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: I got it. 265 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm maybe I'm responsible for all this division after all, 266 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 3: you know, But. 267 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: If you go, you should have it done. I would 268 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 2: a fascinating experience and probably good for something. 269 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 3: Did you feel smooth afterwards? 270 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: I felt I was just slipping and sliding. My clothes 271 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: wouldn't say on. My body couldn't hold onto the steering wheel. 272 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: It was very difficult for me. I heard a horror 273 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: story about a SPA recently. I don't even know if 274 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: I should tell it on this podcast. Some friends ran 275 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: into a dead person really yes, yes, and the spa. 276 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 2: This was not we spa. They ran into it. What happened? 277 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: And I guess we're telling the story now like that, 278 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: And I guess the staff started acting weird and then 279 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: they kind of said, there's somebody passed out in the spa. 280 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: But they weren't calling nine one one. They were just 281 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: acting suspicious, and so my friend and her friend were like, well, 282 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: if someone has to take what's happening, someone needs to 283 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: deal with this. They went into the sauna and we're 284 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: like trying to wake the person up, clapping, wake up, 285 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: wake up, nothing happening. They took the pulse the person 286 00:14:55,360 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: had died, and only then did the SPA call for 287 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: an ambulance. WHOA to me, that says they've had a 288 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: lot of people died there before. 289 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: If they if they're not to do anything, or a 290 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: lot of people pass out and they kind of just 291 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 3: wait until the next logical step, right and hope they 292 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: wake up. Yeah, I hope they wake up or something. 293 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. But then they also charged my friend. They still 294 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: didn't they had to pay really. 295 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 3: Even though they found the dead body, they ran. 296 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: The dead body. Oh my god, can you imagine? I mean, 297 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: I mean I can't imagine at all. I'm inviting you 298 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: to imagine this right now. 299 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 3: I'm thinking, first of all, if someone passed out, well, 300 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 3: I guess if somebody passed out. 301 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: I would do something. I would probably I would try to, 302 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: especially if I work there, certainly I would be like, well, 303 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: it's now our responsibility. Yeah, because this could only get worse. 304 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: Oh god, well, I'm really let me just say this, 305 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 3: and I don't mean to be disrespectful, but I'm really 306 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 3: glad it wasn't in a jacuzzi for their sake, because 307 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 3: I always imagine and it's in the jacuzzi and then 308 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 3: they got to drain it the sauna. I think they 309 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: can get back to business the next day almost immediately. 310 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: I think. So it's a dry, hot space exactly. 311 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 3: It almost disinfects itself kind of, and so they can 312 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: get back right on the saddle. 313 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: You know, I assumed this spa. I mean, according to 314 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: how they handled the situation, they probably did just get 315 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: They're probably just like, okay, who's back in the sauna. 316 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 3: They might have had a small vigil and then moved on. 317 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: But apparently there were customers who were like, well, I 318 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: want to shower, Like people were mad that, like their 319 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: day had been right. I guess I can't believe it. 320 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: If I were there, I'd be like, well, I guess 321 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: I just have to leave. 322 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: It's a risky place. Let's be real, it's a risky place. 323 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: It is kind of risky. 324 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 3: It's scary to mean a sauna can be. Sometimes I 325 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 3: feel like I'm about to die. If you go in 326 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: there on an empty stomach, Oh you're done. 327 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: Forget it, you're dead. You're going to pass out. You'll 328 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: pass out. I have very low blood pressure, so size 329 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 2: you are sickly, tank hyper whatever? Tanks No, I get 330 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: just standing up, I'll almost pass up. So low low 331 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: blood pressure? Wait, what's that? You want? That one? Right 332 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 2: between that? It is better, right, yeah, ultimately better, But 333 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 2: I think I'm too low. Like when I go to 334 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: the doctor whatever, they'll be like, oh, this is low. 335 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 2: They always comment on it, so you know that's not 336 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 2: But then my cholesterol's not right, my heart and my 337 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: blood system's broken. Interesting blood systems. 338 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, maybe you've got to get more scrubs. 339 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: Maybe scrubbing does kind of circulate the blood through your body. 340 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: You're getting rid of yourself. Well you should go to 341 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: we spa. Treat yourself to that. It's a really to me, 342 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 2: it's better than like going to Disneyland. Okay, pay thirty dollars. 343 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: Well, that's definitely better than Disneyland. 344 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 2: Disneylands so expensed. 345 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 3: I would say it's two thousand dollars. 346 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: It's so expensive, it's I think truly two hundred dollars 347 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: at least. Yes, for a single day of wandering around 348 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: the park. 349 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 3: Big difference is I can't get naked at Disneyland. That's 350 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 3: the big difference. 351 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 2: See, that would be interesting if it were taken over 352 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 2: by weeks. I think so just people kind of separated. Yeah, 353 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: adults only. Everything is extremely hot, yes, dead bodies. Yeah. 354 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: Have you been to Disneyland recently? 355 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: No, but I was going to go the other day. 356 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 3: I was kind of disappointed. My sister was like, let's go, 357 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: and then she backed out. 358 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 2: Oh. Interesting, Yeah, you've kind of been making all these 359 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 2: plans and then they're falling through. I know, how long 360 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: are you in town for? I was here for It'll 361 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: be three weeks. Oh, I leave in a week. Yeah. 362 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 2: What have there been any exciting things you've done while 363 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:45,239 Speaker 2: you're here? 364 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: Well? 365 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 3: Kind of, but not really. I've been to the beach 366 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 3: a few times. I've I went to Musso and frank Oh. 367 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 2: I have feelings about Musso and frank Oh. I don't 368 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: think it's good. Really, I think it's bad. I think 369 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: it's cafeteria food. What I loved it, people love it. 370 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 2: But the one time I've been there, I don't drink, 371 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 2: so like I'm not getting a martini or anything. That's 372 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: the big draw, right, I think. And then all the 373 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: other food, I'm like, oh, this is something that could 374 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: have been prepared in an elementary school, Like it's like 375 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 2: chef's salads. Well I got something like that. What did 376 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: you get? 377 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: I got the jelly consumme. I know I got it 378 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 3: because that you know that it's so grows sounding. 379 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: What is jelly consumme? It is broth with gelatine. It's broth. 380 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 3: Imagine you're making jello, but instead of water, you're using 381 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 3: beef broth with pieces of beef in it, and they 382 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 3: serve that. 383 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: So it's it is essentially like a jello but savory. Yes, 384 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: I was. 385 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 3: I was expecting it to be this thing that I 386 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 3: would defend with my life after I had it, because 387 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 3: it was you guys get it all wrong. And you 388 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 3: know what, it's okay, I've had it just once and 389 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 3: I'm moving on and never again. 390 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: But you ate the whole thing, well, not just me. 391 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: I passed it around. 392 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was kind of like, let's let's take a 393 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 3: turn one, you know, and you. 394 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: Just eat it on a fork. You don't like spread 395 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: it on a toastrew. 396 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 3: It's just in a it's served in a cocktail glass, 397 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 3: and it has this horse radish cream on it. 398 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: Inexcusable. 399 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 3: It was definitely definitely worth trying, but never again. 400 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, and it's a warm cold but not cold enough. 401 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, And you want that to be ice. 402 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 3: I want it to be freezing cold. But it was 403 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 3: just cold, just a little just a little cold. 404 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 2: So it just feels like a mistake kind of Yeah. 405 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 3: If they didn't eat it up enough, or they left 406 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 3: it out or I don't know, but you know, I'm. 407 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 2: It was good. It was good. I was happy I 408 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: got it. Yeah, a little cafeteria food. Yeah, yeah, I 409 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: feel like you go there more. It's like an experience, 410 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: I suppose, definitely. Yeah. And if I because I'm in 411 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 2: such a bad mood by the time I'm having dinner, 412 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: I need it to be good. I can't just have 413 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 2: it be an experience. No, I agree, So Musso and 414 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 2: Frank that Dantana's. That's another place I don't know if 415 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 2: I've been. That place is in Beverly Hills, believe I've 416 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: never been. We tried to get it and they were 417 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 2: so rude. But it's you know, it's like a scene 418 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: like you go there because it's like Hollywood or whatever. 419 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 2: That's something I do not want to do ever. I 420 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: know it is kind of unappealing, right, but apparently they 421 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: have a they have chicken palm, which I would eat. 422 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 3: I love chicken parm they had I think they had 423 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 3: chicken parm on. Mussom Frank too. 424 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 2: Well, they've got everything. They basically like if it's been 425 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 2: turned into a TV dinner, they they'll have it at 426 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 2: exactly right to discuss. My apologies to Musso and Frank. 427 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: Who even owns that at their children? Probably not so 428 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: junior somebody. So that was one of the highlights of 429 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 2: the trip. Yeah, yeah, had you been there before? No? Wow? 430 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: And you're from LA I am, Yeah, so you've avoided 431 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 2: it for years? I know. 432 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 3: Well, I wasn't really hanging out over there when I was. 433 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 3: I was no, I was at the Chipotle in Westwood 434 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 3: two three, four times a day. I was about to 435 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 3: say a week with my best friend Maggie, and that 436 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 3: was about it. That was my La experience vibrant definitely culturally, 437 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 3: you know involved. 438 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think Chipotle has gotten worse or everyone's 439 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: tastes have evolved worse? 440 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 3: It has or maybe both our tastes have gotten worse, 441 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 3: which is why we still tolerated. But it's gotten worse. 442 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 3: Chipotle has gone worse. 443 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: The quality has shot straight downhill, right, I think so. 444 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 3: I think it's you know, after ten years of doing anything, 445 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 3: people get tired, you know. 446 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: They lost the spirit, they lost the joy. 447 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 3: There used to be such a spark there in the beginning, 448 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 3: and now it's just another bowl, another bowl, I think, orige. 449 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 3: I think the original sin was that people started getting 450 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 3: the bowl when they were like, our whole thing was burritos, right, 451 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 3: and they're kind of sad that they they stopped their passion. 452 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: They lost their way exactly right my sense, I always 453 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: thought Chipotle was like fine. It was like, oh, I'll 454 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 2: have a fine lunch, and now it feels horrible. It's horrible. 455 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 2: They've got to get it back together. I know, what 456 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 2: do you is the plan just to go out of business? 457 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: I think some of these companies, I don't understand what 458 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 2: the strategy is. 459 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 3: I think it's something needs something bigger and better needs 460 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: to come in and they need to get scared. 461 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: I think it is your opportunity. 462 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 3: I mean, well, we'll see. I'll try to come up 463 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 3: with something. 464 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 2: Well, I think we should talk about something else, Okay, Joe. 465 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 2: I was very excited to have you here today. Thought 466 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: Joe will come over after a probably four hour car ride, 467 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 2: we'll have a nice time chatting. I'll send him on 468 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 2: his way. Everything will be fine. So I was absolutely floored. 469 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 2: Throne is putting it mildly when you sauntered into my 470 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 2: backyard holding a gift on my podcast, I said, no gifts. 471 00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: I just couldn't resist. It was irresistible opportunity. 472 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: To inside and see what's what's what's in store? 473 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: Well, you've brought this gift in this gorgeous like almost 474 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 2: a Christmas packaging, but it feels like it could be 475 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 2: at any time of pea denominational. Yes, it's a non denominational. 476 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: It has kind of snowflakes, but could also be fireworks exactly. 477 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 2: It could be whatever you want. Should I open it here? 478 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 2: On the podcast? I think, so, oh, this is harder 479 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 2: to open the next space. 480 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 3: I didn't want that. I didn't anticipate that I should 481 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 3: have pre ripped it. 482 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: That's very tough wrapping paper. Okay, we're opening now, we're 483 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: to a white box. We're opening the white Oh, there's 484 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: a lot of things in here. There are should it 485 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: do I need to open it in any order? No? Okay. 486 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 2: The first thing we're pulling out is a gorgeous beanie baby. Yes, 487 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: it's a green rabbit, A see green rabbit, see like 488 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: a sea glass. Do they have? His name is Hippity Yes. 489 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: Should we talk about this first? I think so? Well, okay, 490 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: And it was born June first, nineteen ninety six. Hippoti 491 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: is a cute little bunny dressed in green. He looks 492 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: quite funny, twitching his nose in the air, sniffing a 493 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: flower here and there. Wow, gorgeous, I think. So why 494 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 2: did you bring this? Well? For one, I thought you 495 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: would appreciate it. I immediately. I love the color and 496 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: the tag is still on. It's I mean, essentially mint condition. 497 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 3: It's of all of the ones I had, and not 498 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 3: that I had many in front of me to choose from, 499 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 3: but if that was the case, this was definitely the 500 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 3: most mint conditioned one. 501 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: How many do you think you have? Oh? 502 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 3: Thanks, I prefer to keep things private, and this one definitely. 503 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 3: You know, this one is actually the one that is 504 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 3: supposed to be the most expensive if it's if it 505 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 3: has a factory defect, this one can go for like 506 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 3: a thousand bucks. 507 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 2: I'm selling this immediately. 508 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 3: This one, unfortunately, is flawless. Well yeah, for now, I 509 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 3: could counterfit you exactly, rip off an eye something like that. 510 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 2: What is the flaw that makes it valuable? 511 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 3: I think I think millimeters of missage something like that. 512 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 3: Everyone thinks the Princess Diana want is like the really 513 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 3: expensive one, but there's actually like thirty thousand of those everywhere, right, 514 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 3: But this one is this was like one of the 515 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: original beanie babies. What I'm really hyping it up as 516 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 3: though I'm giving you something special. 517 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 2: It's not. It's not. It's really not, because ultimately it's 518 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 2: not the one that I want. I want the one 519 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: we want. 520 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 3: You want thee Yeah exactly. 521 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 2: Wow, there's John Is showing us one on eBay that 522 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: says thirty five thousands. I want it back now, I 523 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: want this one back. 524 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 3: I'm like, made a mistake. 525 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 2: This is the one, right, is the one? But obviously 526 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: this one must be the one with the no, wait, 527 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 2: this is not this is a lawsuit. My god got 528 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: a mistake. And then we have audio of you giving 529 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 2: it to me. I gave it to you on the record. 530 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: This is a normal one. 531 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 3: It's a normal one, and it's thirty five thousand dollars. 532 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: Joe. I can't take your thirty five thousand Dollarsanie, I 533 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 2: don't know to take me to dinner with the money 534 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 2: you make off I so, yeah, what that should to me? 535 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: That feels like it should be a government trap and 536 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: that person, the person who buys it, should be arrested immediately. 537 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 3: There's no way who would would possibly buy that? 538 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: Who clicks yes on a thirty five? Wow, that can't 539 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 2: possibly be true. That maybe the seller is just like, 540 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: let's just. 541 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 3: Wish thinking I might as well. Yeah, it's gonna set 542 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 3: on my mantle. Yeah, it costs me nothing. 543 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 2: I'm blown away. How did you find out it was 544 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,239 Speaker 2: worth anything at all? 545 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 3: Well, we have found all of it. I'm staying at 546 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 3: my mom's house. You can't tell. And we found a 547 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 3: bunch of beanie babies from my childhood, my brothers and 548 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 3: my sisters and I and we have a big pile 549 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 3: of them. And we were trying to value them. There's 550 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 3: no value there at all. But so we were looking 551 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 3: through and we have them all like in one location, 552 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 3: and we're like, you know, eventually we'll find some I 553 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: will find a seller, a verified seller, and we'll kind 554 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 3: of figure out how to do, you know, we'll get 555 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 3: that money there. But it's never gonna happen except for 556 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 3: this one. 557 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 2: This one was the most valuable for I really. Yeah, 558 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: So we were all collecting them, I think, So, yeah, 559 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: are you the oldest sibling. 560 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 3: I'm kind of the middle though, I'm a twin so 561 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 3: oh I didn't know that. Yeah, I have a twin sister, 562 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 3: and then I have an older brother, but I'm five 563 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 3: minutes older, so I guess I'm. 564 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: The interesting Yeah. I've never thought about the middle child 565 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: involving twins. I know. Yeah, it's not quite right, but 566 00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 2: right enough. Yeah, very good. So you have quite a 567 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: few of these at home, yes, And you went through 568 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: and the rest were worthless. Yeah, and then this one. 569 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: Some freak out there figured out that there were some 570 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: that had a factory defect. Yes, and not. 571 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 3: Those are the ones supposedly that the collectors want, right, 572 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 3: and the rest are kind of like it's more just like, 573 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 3: if you like them, keep them, but no one's going 574 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 3: to have her buy these. 575 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 2: I don't know how the beanie baby craze passed me 576 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 2: by I for whatever reason. I mean, I had a 577 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: little sister who got a few of them, but there 578 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 2: was never any like, oh, we need to invest in 579 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: beanie babies. Yeah, but it seems like the rest of 580 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: the country got taken for a ride. They definitely did. 581 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: Were they ever were I guess probably during the height 582 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 2: of the fame they were worth something. 583 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 3: I think it was the kind of thing where it's like, 584 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 3: hold on to this, it's going to be a worth 585 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 3: whole lot of money some day, And I don't. 586 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: Know about that yet. I guess it's a low investment. Definitely, 587 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: they probably cost what ten dollars at the time. 588 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 3: I imagine honestly that they were a little more, oh interesting, 589 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 3: because they had hype right like they were. I don't know, 590 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 3: I don't remember. 591 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: Sixteen dollars feels like about privy to that kind of thing. 592 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: I was kind of you were just kind of blinded 593 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: by the whole excitement exactly. 594 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 3: I was focusing on the experience. 595 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they had the ones I believed that 596 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 2: you got a McDonald's that somehow we're all so collectible. 597 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: Maybe smaller, smaller, I'm sure cheaper made. I'm sure they 598 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: were as. 599 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 3: Opposed to this, which was clearly very fine, very hand. 600 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly hand. 601 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 3: Car. 602 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: I watched that Beanie baby documentary. Did you watch this? No? 603 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 2: I should. I don't know that you should. Really. I 604 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: remember thinking, oh, this is just whatever, like bad nostalgic rab. 605 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I think I would learn something, 606 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 2: and I don't remember learning a single thing. Yeah, okay, 607 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 2: I'll skip it, skip it. But I think the one 608 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: thing I learned was other worthless. Yes, so, but yeah, 609 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: fortunately I never got involved. But you brought this along 610 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 2: just as a gorgeous gift for me. 611 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is just the opener. This is just the 612 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 3: there's four there's four things in here. 613 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 2: Four things? Uh? Is there anything else to say about 614 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 2: beanie babies at the time when you were collecting them? 615 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 2: Was it a thing like your parents? Did it drive 616 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: your parents crazy sort of thing? Or were they like, oh, 617 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: Joe want something I really didn't pay attention to. I 618 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: was focused on other things. 619 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 3: But I think probably it did drive them crazy, because 620 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 3: also I think my sister and I thought over them, 621 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 3: or like we wanted I wanted her, she wanted mine, 622 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 3: but I wouldn't give her, you know. 623 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 2: And did you have to like go wait outside of stores? No, no, no, no, 624 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: we never did that. No, like camping out. 625 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 3: No, we weren't that kind of obsessed with it. 626 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 2: We weren't that family. No, we were not. And this 627 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: was also about the same time as Tamagatchy, Yes, and Furby, 628 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: those all happening at the same moment. 629 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 3: I would say, within years of each other, if not 630 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 3: at the same time. Did you have all of those 631 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 3: things I did? I had a Tamagatchi, I remember I 632 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 3: had a Tamagatchi, and I think I had a Ferbi too. Okay, 633 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 3: but those kind of we got rid of those because 634 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 3: there was some creepy about that. 635 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: I think these ones we held on to. Tama Gotchi 636 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 2: is an interesting surprise name for someone named Tammy. It's 637 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: a cute name for it. It's a cuteness someone named Tammy. 638 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: I mean to find out your full name is tama 639 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: Gotcha's or a fun play name. Maybe annoying for them. 640 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 2: I think we. I think I also had a Tamagatchi 641 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: and a Ferby, but I don't remember, like, yeah, I 642 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 2: remember being something I didn't take care of. It was 643 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 2: like a novelty for maybe three days. Yeah, I don't 644 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 2: immediately was dismissed. 645 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing about these toys. And I see 646 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 3: it in my nephews now where I'm like, oh, you're 647 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 3: not gonna like that in a week. You're not gonna 648 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 3: like that in a week. And here we are giving 649 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 3: this to you, like oh yeah, oh here, this will 650 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 3: be the one. This will be the toy. 651 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 2: This will be the toy they'll never get over. Is 652 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 2: there anything for children right now? That's like a beanie 653 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 2: baby that I don't know. Actually I'm not I should be. 654 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 2: I should be up to date with that. I feel 655 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: like my nieces were like collecting something with giant eyes, 656 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 2: animals with giant like dogs. But I don't know what 657 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: those were. Probably a beanie baby, maybe the very songs. 658 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I was I was 659 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 2: too old for brats. Brats. Yeah, no, this is beyond breds. 660 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: It's just like a very cute animal. I don't know. 661 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. I've got my niece's birthdays coming up 662 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 2: in two weeks, and I need to find out what's 663 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: good for an eight year old? I feel like eight 664 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 2: is when you feel like at the school across the streelers, 665 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 2: I'll just go stand to the fence. What sort of 666 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 2: toys are you kids? No? I feel like eight was 667 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 2: probably the age when I started appreciating getting money, yes, 668 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: rather than so I could go buy a toy, yeah, 669 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 2: rather than something being given to me. But yeah, I 670 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 2: don't know what an eight year old cares for. Look 671 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: into it. You came with no information. Maybe I give 672 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 2: heard this beanie baby. 673 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 3: I bet you'd like it, especially when you told her 674 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 3: the price tag. 675 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Should we open another object? Some of them? 676 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 3: We can maybe go? Well, whatever, let's skip it. 677 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's here's the thing wrapped in white tissue. 678 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: Oh god, oh, this feels like a coloring book. First 679 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 2: of all, it's a Rachel Ray thirty Minute Meals book. 680 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 2: But you know, usually with a cookbook, it's like a 681 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 2: hard cover. Yeah, this is essentially a magazine. 682 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 3: It's almost like the pages I meant to be ripped out. 683 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 2: It feels like they're probably going to be activities to 684 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 2: do inside. 685 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 3: If you look inside. The design of it is the 686 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 3: same way. 687 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 2: Oh, Rachel did not want any care put into this cookbook. 688 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 2: Not soever. We've got the Let's see. I wonder if 689 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 2: this was an original run of the thing. Where did 690 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: this come from? 691 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 3: At the kitchen? Am I in the kitchen? I believe 692 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 3: it or not? And it's like brand new, I know, 693 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 3: but this is from I think this is from probably 694 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 3: like two thousand and thirty. 695 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 2: Right, the design everything, and Rachel looks twenty. 696 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 3: Years She looks like somebody that we could ask about 697 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 3: eight year old toys. 698 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 2: Here. She's essentially an on the cover of this cook 699 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 2: childlike it's a different era. And the I mean, the 700 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 2: photo shoot is confusing. She's kind of hanging out over 701 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 2: the top of these stove. 702 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 3: Yes, there's nothing in the stuff in the pot. She's 703 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 3: holding the lid. 704 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 2: There's not even steam coming out of her hair is 705 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 2: kind of just a chop. The ends look looks like, hey, 706 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 2: like if you touched it, it would fall away. Her 707 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 2: hair is dead, it is dead. She looks great. She 708 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 2: I mean, she looks more joyful than she has in years. Year. 709 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 2: This is when she was still you know, she had 710 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 2: the heat, she had the hunger. Yes, let's see if 711 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 2: this we can find the copyright. Let's see nineteen ninety eight. 712 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 3: Wow, I really throwing it back here. 713 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 2: Twenty five years old, and it is like it was 714 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 2: just off the show. It's been like preserved airtight container. 715 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 3: How is this? 716 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 2: It was actually in the kitchen. Yes, how did it 717 00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 2: stay this? You? 718 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 3: Well, clearly we haven't been making many thirty minute meals 719 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 3: in this household. I've been having more like Thanksgiving state exactly. Yeah, 720 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 3: but I think this was actually bought for me because 721 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 3: I loved her. Did you read I loved her so much? 722 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 3: What was the first thing she did that you loved? 723 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 3: Did she have like did you launch a show first? 724 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 2: Yes? 725 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 3: That was how I first fell in love with her. 726 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 2: And what was the first show she did? Was it 727 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 2: a thirty minute meals? 728 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 3: Oh? 729 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 2: Okay? 730 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 3: And I think the premise is the show is thirty 731 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 3: minutes and by the time from start to finish, she 732 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 3: will make a meal and there's no TV magic. 733 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 2: It's like she does it. You watch it in real time, 734 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 2: in real time? Yeah, Wow, that stresses me. 735 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 3: I mean it's kind of amazing. 736 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 2: Did you ever try or were you just watching? 737 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 3: I think I did maybe once, but I think I 738 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 3: just I don't know. 739 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 2: You loved her personality. 740 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 3: I was more in it to watch. 741 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 2: I was it was a foyeuristic thing, right, Well I 742 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 2: don't know about that, watching this woman in her home 743 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 2: thirty minute slice of Rachel's day. But you were hooked immediately. 744 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I really liked her, though I liked Ina Garten more. 745 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 3: But oh of course she had two hers for her. 746 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 3: They give her two slots back to back from five 747 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 3: to six and it was two half hours. 748 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, Yeah that's how popular she was. Wow. Yeah, 749 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,919 Speaker 2: she blew up almost immediately. Oh yeah, but I don't 750 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 2: have much memory of her show. I just remember her 751 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 2: being famous almost immediately. Yeah, I yeah, but I love 752 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 2: cooking shows. I just I don't know why I didn't 753 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 2: latch onto Rachel her. 754 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 3: She got a little I will say it was quick. 755 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 3: I got over her quickly, oh interest, which is maybe 756 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 3: why the cookbook here wasn't used like some ferby. 757 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 758 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 3: I was kind of like, I want to really hunk 759 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 3: her down and cook. I don't want to make these 760 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 3: kind of thirty I'm not cooking for a family. I'm 761 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 3: looking for me and I'm thirteen. 762 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 2: I mean, when you were in love with her, how 763 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 2: did that manifest itself? Just watching the show, watching the show, 764 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 2: and I did it every day. 765 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 3: I'd come home and I'd watch maybe two hours of 766 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 3: Food Network every single day. 767 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 2: Do you cook now? I do. 768 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 3: I love cooking, Okay, and I really I enjoy it. 769 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 3: I love cooking. I love learning about cooking. And I 770 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 3: think it like started when I was a kid. 771 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 2: A kid. But was she kind of your first chef love? Yeah? 772 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 3: Her, definitely she was. And I also loved her other 773 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 3: show that was twenty forty dollars a Day or something. 774 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 2: Oh interesting. She had these real gimmicky shows things that 775 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 2: we're just like, things are not going right for me exactly. Yeah, 776 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 2: it's like I have no time, I have no money. 777 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 3: I'm really trying to make it work. 778 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. That one. She would like go to the grocery 779 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 2: store and spend No, she would go traveling. I'll go 780 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 2: visit like a plane. So you're on the Yeah, this 781 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 2: person is desperate. They're on the run, they have nowhere 782 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 2: to turn exactly. 783 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 3: When she's at home, she's in a rush, you know. 784 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 3: But she'd go like to Sconnectady, New York and try 785 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 3: to survive on twenty bucks. 786 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 2: I was like out of the back of her van. Yeah, wow, 787 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 2: I want to watch all of these I know it 788 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 2: really was. I wonder if she's had them scrubbed. I 789 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 2: don't know, are they still online? I could torrent them, 790 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 2: find it. I would love to tourrent just gigs and 791 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 2: gigs of Rachel Ray shows. Really. Okay, so that's but 792 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 2: then you probably moved on to Aina. I did. That 793 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 2: feels like a natural next step. This is more mature. 794 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 2: This person has taste and exactly. Yeah, she's out there 795 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 2: just kind of doing her thing, waiting for Jeffrey. And yes, 796 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 2: but now you're just cooking on do you find recipes? 797 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 2: What is your because I don't cook it all? 798 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: Oh? 799 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 2: Really, not a single thing. It's shameful. 800 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 3: That's not you know what people say that Sometimes I'm like, 801 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 3: it's not. 802 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 2: I think it is. Some people. 803 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 3: Listen, some people have to cook and some people have 804 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 3: to eat, you know what I mean. 805 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 2: But my boyfriend doesn't cook either. Oh well, then you're 806 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 2: kind of screwed. It's a bad situation. Yeah, well you 807 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 2: have Trader Joe's right. I mean, there's food in the world. 808 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 2: It would be nice to just have, like the care Well, 809 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 2: I'm really glad I gave you that book. I mean, 810 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 2: thirty minute Maybe this is a good first step for me, 811 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 2: I think it could be very much. How often are 812 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 2: you cooking at home? 813 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 3: You know, I cook like a big thing and then 814 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 3: I'll like have it like paste it out over there. 815 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 3: It's not like meal prepping, but I'll make like a 816 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 3: big thing and then it'll be like last me a while. 817 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 2: Like, so I am very this is something I could 818 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 2: probably do, and I'm curious, like what is a big 819 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 2: thing you'll cook. 820 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 3: I'll make like a big thing of beans, and then 821 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 3: I'll make like rice, and then I'll like maybe make 822 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 3: some tofu like on the day of Oh, so it's 823 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 3: it is kind of like meal prepping, right right. Or 824 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 3: I'll make like chicken or like some kind of soup 825 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 3: or something, or like grains, like a big thing of grains. 826 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 2: And then it lasts you three to four days. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 827 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 2: and you don't get tired of it. 828 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 3: I do by the last day. By the last day, 829 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 3: we're kind of like, oh god, here we go. More 830 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,919 Speaker 3: black beans. Okay, let's see how we can black beans again. 831 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 2: Here we go. 832 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 3: You have to really learn how much you should make 833 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 3: because sometimes you can go off and it's just you're trapped. 834 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I assume beans are hard they can be. I 835 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,280 Speaker 2: wouldn't how to measure out a bean for several days. 836 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 3: I'm still learning, and I've been doing it for. 837 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 2: A while, always learning. Have you ever seen Rachel or 838 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 2: Aina in person? No? I did. 839 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 3: I saw Jada, well not, this is the dumb person 840 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,959 Speaker 3: between someone exactly. 841 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 2: Jiada. 842 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 3: I saw once on the street, Yeah, begging after the 843 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 3: show get went away? 844 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 2: She kind of no. 845 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 3: She was walking out of a like a yogurt store, 846 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,399 Speaker 3: like a yog frozen yogurt place, and I thought, wow, 847 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 3: my god, I was blown away. 848 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 2: Did you see what sort of yogurt she was eating? 849 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 2: I didn't. I'm so curious. 850 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 3: She kind of proud, I think she I don't even 851 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 3: know if I looked at that, I was looking at 852 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 3: her face. 853 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 2: You needed to get the fall. I would have been 854 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 2: walking up and just taking a little bit. I know. 855 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 2: I should have taken a picture. You should have ultimately 856 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 2: been a popular Yeah. No, I would love to see 857 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 2: any of these women in person. I've got a make 858 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 2: a better effort. Over the holidays. We drove by Inina's house. 859 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 2: Oh where it's in the hamp tanpas, Yes, yeah, and uh, 860 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 2: you could just walk up to the door. Really, Yeah, 861 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 2: it's very exposed. I don't know if she lives there anymore, 862 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 2: but some friends told us this is where her house. 863 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 2: Did you play ding dong ditch? Did you throw a pebble? 864 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? 865 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 2: I should have just gone up and ran could have happened. 866 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,280 Speaker 2: Can you teach me to cook? What's wrong with harassing 867 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 2: a celebrity? Fact? 868 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm blown away by that. I would have expected 869 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 3: it to be behind a gate or something. 870 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 2: Right, Maybe I don't remember there being any I feel 871 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 2: like it was just the lawn up to the house. Wow. 872 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 2: But I feel like probably within that community people are respecting. Maybe. Yeah, 873 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people. She's not the sort 874 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 2: of celebrity that drives people crazy. No, I don't know. 875 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,240 Speaker 3: You should have talked to me when I was fifteen. 876 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 2: I was okay, so I have thirty minute meals. I 877 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 2: wouldn't mind cooking something at some point. I obviously cooked 878 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 2: during the pandemic, yeah, deep pandemic, but then immediately gave 879 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 2: it up. Yeah. I don't blame you. I think I 880 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 2: just got tired. Yeah, and I'm not skilled enough, but 881 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 2: I still bake. So, oh yeah, that's harder. It's not harder, 882 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 2: it's way easier. Okay, it's simply following instructions, fair enough. Yeah, 883 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 2: whereas with cooking, I assume you're actually putting thought into 884 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 2: there's a little more improvisation. Yeah right, definitely right. I 885 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 2: can't have anything go wrong or freak out. Okay, so. 886 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 3: Told me at the beginning of the podcast. 887 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 2: Really relax, you freak out. So just keep that in mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 888 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 2: Should I open the next gift? Yes, definitely. Is this 889 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 2: also from nineteen ninety eight. 890 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, around that time, Yeah, definitely. 891 00:43:53,640 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 2: Run wrapping, run rapping. Oh my god, this really is. 892 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 2: Oh this is a fascinating combination. 893 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: I know. 894 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, let's just put it on the table. 895 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 2: There's CD ROMs. They're CD ROMs. Well, isn't music CD 896 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 2: called a CD ROM or is it just software? No, well, 897 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 2: I guess you'd just say CD. We bring up an 898 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 2: interesting question, you do, and I think I. 899 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 3: Think it's just CD for music and then CD ROM 900 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 3: for software. 901 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 2: Right, so one of these is a CD ROM and 902 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 2: the other is a CD for Hanson's Middle of Nowhere. 903 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 2: That's right. This was the first U single I ever bought, 904 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 2: really bought a cassette tape at Walmart. Oh my god. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, 905 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 2: well I mean what other single would I have? Yeah? 906 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 2: What if I named another you know, I a single 907 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 2: other song of theirs? And I think it was on 908 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 2: a cassette type. Yeah, definitely. This was maybe like the 909 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 2: first run of CDs. Wow, what's your history with Hanson? 910 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 2: I don't It's all there, that's it. 911 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 1: It is that. 912 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 3: I don't even know if this has ever been opened. Yeah, 913 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 3: I'm looking at it, and let's see is there a 914 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:54,760 Speaker 3: CD inside? 915 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 2: Let's see there is? 916 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 1: Is it? 917 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 2: Is it the one? Yeah? It is, Oh my god, 918 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 2: perfect condition. It's absolutely pristine. 919 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,399 Speaker 3: What if I gave you something this? All of these 920 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,720 Speaker 3: are worth like ten grand? 921 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 2: Just ruined yourself financially. Yeah. Really, I don't think I 922 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,399 Speaker 2: ever bought the full album. So you saw this CD? 923 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 2: I mean, like, look how new this is? 924 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 3: It looks I don't know how this is possible. This 925 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 3: is I mean, it's actually as if they've been in 926 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 3: like a temperature control the environment. 927 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not faded in any way. It's crisp 928 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 2: as the day it was born, and they are all 929 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 2: the lyrics inside. You're not getting this in a modern 930 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 2: I mean, can you buy a CD? 931 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 3: I maybe or maybe even more likely by like the 932 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 3: vinyl right. 933 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 2: The vinyl right. But this is a I mean, you 934 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 2: get all of the lyrics. I wonder if there's a 935 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 2: thank you. I always loved the thank yous within the 936 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 2: CD thing. Let's see guitar. Now where they're from? Oklahoma? Wow? 937 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 2: And now I'm obviously at some point was a thing 938 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,439 Speaker 2: you were a big fan. Yeah, John, would this fact 939 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 2: check that? I'm almost positive Oklahoma? That feels right. They 940 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,879 Speaker 2: seem so Australian to me. Interesting, you know what I mean? 941 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 2: They have the sunny energy, so Australian Tulsa, Oklahoma. There 942 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 2: we go. Don't challenge me, Okay, it says thanks to 943 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 2: Bill Coben, No, these aren't very Oh thanks to Jeff 944 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 2: Rabhand for his ears, you know, part of the team. 945 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 3: Anyone that we that we've canceled since the release. 946 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 2: Of Friends and Family, Dad and Mom, Walker and Diana. 947 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 2: They have old older sisters and a brother. Oh that 948 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 2: that hurts to hear when they're such a family oriented thing, 949 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,399 Speaker 2: and siblings were left find a place in the band. 950 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 2: Yeah for them and our deepest thanks to the one 951 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 2: plants and waters and causes all things to grow. 952 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 3: To him at the end to be like the one 953 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 3: we're talking about. 954 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 2: God, let's just leave it a little vague, yeah, exactly, 955 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 2: will keep everybody involved, yeah, the one, but the one 956 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 2: hasn't officially been canceled yet, not quite. Yeah, okay, so 957 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,840 Speaker 2: you bought this CD I remember, Yeah, my friend Tyson 958 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 2: introduced me to them because he had cable and had MTV. Yeah, 959 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 2: and it was immediately Gaga, absolutely for this song, got 960 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 2: the cassette, and then never. I guess it was one 961 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 2: of those things when you're that age, you're just kind 962 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 2: of almost immediately over it. Definitely, definitely Yeah. And then 963 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,879 Speaker 2: I think I was on to Lenny Kravitz for about 964 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 2: thirty seconds, okay, and then it was that thing you 965 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,800 Speaker 2: do oh and then that kind of was like the 966 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 2: official launching into like music, like the music exactly. And 967 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,879 Speaker 2: then that was just the beginning stage, right of liking music, right, 968 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 2: which is an interesting thing because it's a fake band. 969 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 2: It is not real. No, Hansen, that thing you do back. 970 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,800 Speaker 2: I don't remember what their name was, the Wonders Wonder, 971 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 2: but I was spelled right right right. What happened for 972 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:05,320 Speaker 2: you after Hanson? 973 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 3: Well, I really I think this was more something for 974 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 3: my sister. I think I just I think I just 975 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 3: gifted something that was my sister's. 976 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 2: Who was your first kind of band? Tweet? Tweet? Do 977 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 2: you know? Oops? Oh my? 978 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 3: I don't know anything about This was an R and 979 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 3: B singer, okay, and she had one kind of a 980 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 3: one hit wonder and it was this song called oops 981 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 3: oh my, and it was about I think masturbating. 982 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 2: Oh wow, and I exactly I had no idea that 983 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 2: was what it was about, but I was, oh my god. 984 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 3: I listened to this song day in, day out, and 985 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 3: then my next song that I loved with this other 986 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 3: really gay song by this I think Australian electronic band 987 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:54,280 Speaker 3: called Madison Avenue and it was called Don't Call Me Baby, 988 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 3: and that was that was kind of it. It was 989 00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,720 Speaker 3: like those two songs on repeat. 990 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 2: All of those people are dead now they're all gone. Yeah, 991 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 2: no one's heard of any of them. You know, Well 992 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 2: that's they're both really good. I will say, they're introducing 993 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 2: you to them. 994 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 3: I think I just saw them on MTV like Late 995 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:12,800 Speaker 3: at Night. 996 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 2: Tweet and Madison at madisine at It was a horrible name, 997 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 2: Oh oh my god, but this song is so good? 998 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 2: Is it also? R and b No. 999 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 3: That is like it's like electronic like clubby like music. 1000 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,320 Speaker 3: It's so gay, Like if I if it came on 1001 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 3: to the club now, I'd be like, tweet is it 1002 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 3: t w e E T Yeah, like a bird. 1003 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 2: Wow, so ahead of their time. I know, Wow, it's 1004 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 2: gone too soon. I know. 1005 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,799 Speaker 3: I think there might be one song on their one 1006 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 3: other song that's okay, but okay. 1007 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 2: And the rest is that was a period when it 1008 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 2: felt like you really could have one song and then 1009 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,320 Speaker 2: just fill a CD with garbage. Oh definitely. I mean, Hansoon, 1010 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 2: we're looking at one right here. I we don't know 1011 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 2: any of this. What's another title? No thought was put 1012 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 2: into this. The first is called thinking of You? Okay, 1013 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 2: then we haven't bop number three is weird? Oh yeah? 1014 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:12,320 Speaker 2: Another one? Uh speechless? Where's the love this is? I 1015 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 2: mean it's just like a filler CD. Definitely, just like 1016 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 2: home filler, Like a realtter would put this on a 1017 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 2: T like this is where the teen would live your 1018 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 2: book Look at you, Lucy, I will come to you 1019 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,280 Speaker 2: a minute without you, Madeleine with you in your dreams. 1020 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 2: And then there's a bonus track for CD man for 1021 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 2: Milwaukee the Garage mix. 1022 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, the other mix of man for They 1023 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 3: didn't want to put that one out yet. 1024 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 2: De Yeah, no one has heard any of these other songs. 1025 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 2: Your book feels like they were aiming for their audience. 1026 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,840 Speaker 2: I know they were truly children they look yeah, but 1027 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 2: it was aimed at kind of everybody I know that 1028 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 2: does that happening, does feel like it. I don't feel 1029 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 2: like any adult is being marketed music by a nine 1030 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 2: year old anymore. Not quite right, I don't think so. 1031 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't pay attention to that, right, But 1032 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 2: I feel like the youngest pop stars are in like 1033 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 2: their seventeen eighteen, yeah, late teens. Olivia Rodriguez right right, 1034 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 2: and she feels like the youngest successful one. I feel 1035 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 2: like her ken her peer. But at this period, I 1036 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,399 Speaker 2: think at least two of them were like ten years old. 1037 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 3: They look tiny. Yeah, they look so young, and. 1038 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,359 Speaker 2: Then the oldest one kind of looks like a haggard mom. Definitely. Yeah, 1039 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 2: he's the caretaker, he's the Yeah. He ultimately got custody 1040 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 2: of them. Yeah. Okay, so we have Hansoon and then 1041 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 2: you had those two. Hanson was my first band. I 1042 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 2: think then there was just a large dry period I 1043 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 2: think where I didn't listen to music at all. 1044 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 3: Oh, you were kind of listening to Bob for a while, 1045 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:53,399 Speaker 3: over and over. 1046 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, just burning it. I heard it recently and I thought, oh, 1047 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,320 Speaker 2: that is a catchy piece of music. Definitely. 1048 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I say that nice when that happens when 1049 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 3: you hear when you hear a song that you thought, oh, 1050 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 3: it must be trash. I didn't have good taste back then, 1051 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 3: but I loved it, and then you hear it again, 1052 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 3: you're like, wait a minute, I'll. 1053 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,399 Speaker 2: Give myself some respect. This song is good. 1054 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 3: It's actually I liked it, and I deserved to like 1055 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 3: it because it's a good song. 1056 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. That is a good feeling, because most of the 1057 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,359 Speaker 2: things you like as a young person are usually garbage. Yes, 1058 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 2: pure really. Yeah, mmbop is a song that's I can 1059 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 2: see why it sold millions of copies. Yes. Can you 1060 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 2: think of anything you've gone back to that's been bad? 1061 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 2: You're like, oh, well that's a shame, not a thing. 1062 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 2: It's actually kind of hard. Well hmmm, no, yeah, I 1063 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 2: guess I can't. I think I like everything that I like, 1064 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 2: so yeah, I'm like I feel like there was probably 1065 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:58,399 Speaker 2: some of those like late nineties singles that I'd probably like, Wow, 1066 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 2: Natalie and nobody. Oh yeah, but I like it. Okay, 1067 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:04,840 Speaker 2: I need to listen to it again. 1068 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 3: It's beautiful. There was indecision. 1069 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 2: What was the Meredith, Oh what is that Brooks Brooks, 1070 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 2: that sounds right, She's sang a song called Bitch. 1071 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the one. Another one hit Wonder, I think, 1072 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 3: yeah it is. 1073 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,359 Speaker 2: I remember. I think it was in like eighth grade 1074 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 2: or something, and there was like a school dance and 1075 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 2: I put in her request for that song playing looking 1076 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 2: at each other. That's so funny. Yeah, those are the 1077 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 2: two big ones I can remember. I mean, then there 1078 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 2: are bends like third Eye Blind, things like that, like 1079 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 2: I don't think I would in that one. 1080 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,400 Speaker 3: Maybe I don't. I don't know if I would have 1081 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 3: like that now. 1082 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,600 Speaker 2: I don't know that I'm throwing them on up. There 1083 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 2: was like that period of like new metal. Yeah that 1084 00:53:55,400 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 2: is biscuit kid rock. That is just objectively bad musick. Yeah. 1085 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,800 Speaker 3: But even then, it's like there's some time and place 1086 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 3: for everything you can listen to that. 1087 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 1: I can. 1088 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 2: I can get into Creed even yes, which song higher. 1089 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 3: I can get into it. I can really listen to 1090 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 3: higher and like I am. I cannot believe I am 1091 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,960 Speaker 3: a gay man listening to Creed right now? 1092 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 2: In what situation would you listen to it? Privately? But 1093 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 2: even but maybe I dip my toes. Oh, let's play 1094 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,880 Speaker 2: this song. Let's put this song? What's this? 1095 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 3: I'll try this and play it in front of friends 1096 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 3: just to see. 1097 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 2: But you can. 1098 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 3: I mean, it's actually kind of it's you can get 1099 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 3: into it. 1100 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 2: And you're able to listen to it and enjoy it. Sincerely. 1101 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 3: Yes, Wow, that's inaudible. I don't know what happened. 1102 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,440 Speaker 2: Powerful piece of music, I know, absolutely powerful. I can't remember. 1103 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 2: There are other songs. 1104 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 3: I think maybe that's it. Yeah, now there's a couple. 1105 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,399 Speaker 2: But then I think of the other songs. I think 1106 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 2: of Ore, I think Nickelback's songs. John is what course? 1107 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:00,759 Speaker 2: Thank you for that? Yeah? I was going to say, 1108 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 2: is higher than one about having a baby, but having one, 1109 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if I like that one as much. Well, 1110 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 2: you're not a father, I'm not yet. It's gonna hit 1111 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:11,360 Speaker 2: pretty hard. 1112 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,280 Speaker 3: The second I exit that adoption agency. 1113 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 2: They just hear that blasting out of your car like 1114 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:27,719 Speaker 2: another happy baby baby screaming in the back. Oh, wow. Okay, 1115 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 2: and then we of course we haven't even talked about 1116 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,800 Speaker 2: the second CD rare in backyard. Do you do you 1117 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,320 Speaker 2: know about this? I'm not familiar with this. 1118 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 3: Well, this one is kind of a deep cut. 1119 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 2: Okay. 1120 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 3: This was like one of the first like computer games. 1121 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 3: And it's this very very beautiful world where everybody plays 1122 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 3: sports and everybody's good at sports and we can have 1123 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 3: we can have everybody have fun playing sports. 1124 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:51,800 Speaker 2: Very inclusive. 1125 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,800 Speaker 3: It's very inclusive. There's like players on there who you 1126 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,439 Speaker 3: can play. There's like a person in a wheelchair who's 1127 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 3: playing football and he's the star player. It's not kind 1128 00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,359 Speaker 3: of thing. Oh, this is wonderful and you can click around. 1129 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 3: It's very rudimentary. 1130 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:04,320 Speaker 2: It's for kids. 1131 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,320 Speaker 3: I think it says five five to ten. It's a 1132 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 3: big gap, Yes, big intelligence gap. 1133 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they're trying to sell more. Yeah, five 1134 00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 2: to thirty. 1135 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:19,520 Speaker 3: Squeeze them in there exactly. But oh, well, this is 1136 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,919 Speaker 3: worth what how much is it worth? 1137 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,839 Speaker 2: John is showing us you're lying and it's being sold 1138 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 2: for one hundred and sixty six dollars. What is the 1139 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,320 Speaker 2: value of what I just gave you? This is like 1140 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:32,920 Speaker 2: you win, you would win this on the prices. 1141 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:37,320 Speaker 3: Right, I'm blowing away. There's no way what what is 1142 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:37,799 Speaker 3: this worth? 1143 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 2: Anything? 1144 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,360 Speaker 3: Is the CD inside? That's the thing I kind of 1145 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 3: grabbed it. Oh no, wait, so what's in there? What's 1146 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:48,879 Speaker 3: inside there? 1147 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:56,360 Speaker 2: Pocon animated story? This is a completely different thing. I 1148 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,320 Speaker 2: guess is probably like a you probably click through a 1149 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,399 Speaker 2: story or something. Well, how much is that one? I've 1150 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 2: been totally blindsided by whatever. Really we're combined. Maybe this 1151 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 2: was a factory defect, like you got that storybook in 1152 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 2: the football game. 1153 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, this one's the one that's really worth thirty five 1154 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 3: k oh, this is shocking Alan away by that. 1155 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 2: Wow, what a surprise I'm opening. I'm going to see 1156 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 2: the quality of this again. Well a little smudge, a 1157 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 2: little jam or some twenty I mean still to be 1158 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 2: paying twenty dollars for this in twenty twenty four is 1159 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 2: an interesting thing too. Wow. Wow, so wow, I don't 1160 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 2: even I'm speechless. 1161 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 3: I think absolutely anyone would be rendered speechless. 1162 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,480 Speaker 2: Year. But you were playing backyard football. I was. 1163 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 3: But backyard baseball is the one that I think people 1164 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 3: played really Okay, it's a little easier to play I 1165 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 3: think on the on the computer, and like it's just 1166 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:52,160 Speaker 3: the iconic version of Backyard Sports. Okay, but it's like 1167 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,920 Speaker 3: one of the very first like computer games that came out. 1168 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 2: I didn't get you into. 1169 00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 3: Sports, no, no, no, no no. It got me into equality, 1170 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 3: your first peak exactly. It got me into imagining a 1171 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 3: better future. But that's about it. 1172 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,080 Speaker 2: But did you enjoy playing the game? Yeah? I did. 1173 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 3: I played it with my friend Jason, so you could 1174 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 3: play two players, well kind of one of them would 1175 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:20,960 Speaker 3: kind of be sitting next to you. 1176 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 2: I mean it looks like crap. 1177 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 3: It definitely definitely wasn't a beautiful game, just kind of 1178 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 3: click around. 1179 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 2: You definitely click around. Yeah. Yeah, gosh, it's a kid's 1180 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 2: version of some of NBA. Oh it has kid versions 1181 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 2: of the players like Dan Marino's. Oh that did not 1182 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 2: hit home with me. You over who cares? Yeah, exactly. 1183 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 2: Did you play other video games? I did? 1184 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 3: Well, what I would really do is I'd go home 1185 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 3: and play World of Warcraft and watch and watch Rachel 1186 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 3: Ray at the same time. 1187 00:58:54,720 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 2: That was the missing piece. Wow, multitasking such an interesting. 1188 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,880 Speaker 3: I needed the sound and then the visual experience. 1189 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 2: World of Warcraft is online. Yes, were you really deep 1190 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,200 Speaker 2: into that? Yeah? Oh man? Yeah, for how long? Years. 1191 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 2: Would you like have friends on it? How does? I 1192 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 2: don't really know how it works. 1193 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 3: You could make friends, but they were far away. And 1194 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 3: then there was one time I had like a real 1195 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,440 Speaker 3: life friend who played it once, and it was kind 1196 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:27,760 Speaker 3: of like, let's just keep this private, let's not really 1197 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 3: engage with each other in that dimension. 1198 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 2: We're showing sides of ourselves at home. 1199 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 3: But oh man, it really got me hooked. But it 1200 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 3: was a little too mask so I needed the like 1201 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 3: sound in the background. Really that combo really hits. I 1202 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 3: will say, that makes perfect sense to me. Yeah, right, 1203 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 3: that makes absolute sense. And so but you get into 1204 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,240 Speaker 3: the game, you like create a little man or once 1205 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 3: and just run around killing things. 1206 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,320 Speaker 2: Is that yeah, essentially. 1207 00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 3: Requests killing things? And it was a slog was I 1208 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 3: mean months months to get like to the point where you're. 1209 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 2: Done kind of Oh so there is an end to it, 1210 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:08,520 Speaker 2: well kind of. 1211 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 3: But they kept adding things and then you got to 1212 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 3: the max level and then you did like little more 1213 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 3: quests and you wanted to get like fancier items and things, right, 1214 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 3: and that was kind of where the game really started. 1215 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,320 Speaker 3: But I don't think I got to that point. I 1216 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:24,680 Speaker 3: think I I kind of you. 1217 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 2: Were done with it, I think so. And are you 1218 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,880 Speaker 2: do you have to buy things with real world money 1219 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,840 Speaker 2: or is this before that sort of thing you had 1220 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,640 Speaker 2: to pay a subscription? Right? 1221 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,720 Speaker 3: So right, I'm not sure how that where that money 1222 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 3: came from. But I have an idea. 1223 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 2: Where your parents ever concerned. Were that ever, like, Joe, 1224 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:48,880 Speaker 2: please stop playing video playing this? Yes? Definitely, definitely definitely 1225 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,240 Speaker 2: And with your. 1226 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 3: Parents, no, I think I got good grades and I 1227 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 3: was a good kid, so they were kind of like 1228 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 3: something must be working in all this. But yeah, it 1229 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,760 Speaker 3: was man, it was fun and I have like nostalgia now. 1230 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:03,520 Speaker 2: Have I tried to go back and play, and. 1231 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have, and it's not quite the same, but 1232 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,400 Speaker 3: it's it's funny, like I really have, Like some people 1233 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 3: reminisce about like being on the soccer field, and I 1234 01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,960 Speaker 3: literally reminisce about running through tears. 1235 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 2: Fall glades like in you know, It's wild, that's incredible. 1236 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 1: I know. 1237 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I have a lot of nostalgia tied 1238 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 2: to video games. And did you you played video games? Oh? Yeah, 1239 01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 2: I mean I think it was a similar thing where 1240 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 2: I played them NonStop, and I think my parents had 1241 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,840 Speaker 2: like a hovering concern that was never real. I remember 1242 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,640 Speaker 2: my dad, I think at one point tried to stop 1243 01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,200 Speaker 2: me from getting a Nintendo sixty four, but my mom 1244 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,160 Speaker 2: ultimately won over. I think they were like, well, what 1245 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 2: else is he going to do? Yeh, he's found something. 1246 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,960 Speaker 2: This thing is not capable of anything, just leave him alone. Wait, 1247 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 2: so what did you play? Like Zeldazelda Banjo kazuis ah, 1248 01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,560 Speaker 2: my gotcha? Yes, and then you know, just I played 1249 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 2: video games now still obviously yes, it kind of progressed 1250 01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,840 Speaker 2: from there, but I've never kind of gotten into like 1251 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,240 Speaker 2: violent video games. They stress me out. I agree. I'll like, 1252 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 2: occasionally people will be talking about a violent video game. 1253 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, I have to try this, and then I 1254 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,919 Speaker 2: am panicking, like this isn't why I would play this. Yeah, 1255 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 2: I don't want to be scared. Resident Evil my brother played. 1256 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 2: I've played one of those, and I did enjoy it. 1257 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 3: It's kind of cute now, like in hindsight, they're really 1258 01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 3: bad graphics, But when I first came out, I was 1259 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 3: really scared. 1260 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course, really really really scared, horrifying. Yeah yeah, 1261 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 2: I tried playing Resident Evil four recently and I was 1262 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 2: still scared to death, screaming. I don't like that. 1263 01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,120 Speaker 3: I like, I don't like being with the controller when 1264 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,120 Speaker 3: you're scared. I don't play well in those conditions. 1265 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I need something it's a little bit more laid 1266 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 2: back and soothing. Yes, definitely kind of a Soma type thing. 1267 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,760 Speaker 2: Are you playing any video games right now? No, I'm not. 1268 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:52,440 Speaker 2: I wish what a shame. 1269 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,200 Speaker 3: I did play something recently. I played Balder's Gate. 1270 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 2: People love that thing. It is Oh my god, people go, yeah, 1271 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,480 Speaker 2: this is the reaction I've heard from every single person. Incredible, 1272 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:07,240 Speaker 2: And I don't understand what's happening. Well, you can have sex, well, 1273 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 2: I've played the Sims show, but you can see it 1274 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:10,760 Speaker 2: this time. 1275 01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,960 Speaker 3: What kind of Yes, and they're not just doing missionary 1276 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,520 Speaker 3: straight guy girl, they're going there's pegging. 1277 01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,479 Speaker 2: They do it all what yeah? Why? 1278 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,400 Speaker 3: And you can do everyone's Everyone's pan, everyone's boat. 1279 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 2: Yes. So it's kind of the backyard football modern video games. Yeah, 1280 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,720 Speaker 2: it's the kind of logical conclusion of that. It also 1281 01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 2: character Yeah that's funny. Well that's interesting. So you're basically 1282 01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,400 Speaker 2: like choosing what's happening in every element. 1283 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, everything is like a choice. You're kind of you're 1284 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 3: very in control and you have these very serious, like 1285 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 3: moral dilemmas. You have to wow pick and there's pros 1286 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,120 Speaker 3: and cons to each. It's very fun. 1287 01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,320 Speaker 2: It feels like it would completely take over your life. Well, yes, 1288 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 2: maybe I should give it a shot, but I've never 1289 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,840 Speaker 2: played because it's like Dungeons and Dragons. It's exactly dungeons. 1290 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,120 Speaker 2: So you've played Dungeons. I hadn't until okay and I 1291 01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,240 Speaker 2: could play it. Then have you played it? I never 1292 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 2: played Dungeons and Dragons, so I thought, oh, this will 1293 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 2: be over my head. 1294 01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:19,000 Speaker 3: No, no, no, they make it very accessible. They don't 1295 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,720 Speaker 3: even advertise it as Dungeons and Dragons. I was, well, 1296 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 3: this is different, this is a different thing. And then 1297 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:25,680 Speaker 3: I had someone tell me after the fact that it's 1298 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:26,200 Speaker 3: the same. 1299 01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,720 Speaker 2: Thing, and they're so ashamed. I know, it's like, why 1300 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 2: hide that? You know? What are you scared of? 1301 01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:32,240 Speaker 1: There? 1302 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 2: Everyone knows? I know, how do I even know? I know? Yeah, 1303 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,280 Speaker 2: it's really good though, Yeah, okay, well maybe I'll try that. 1304 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds absolutely out of control. The sex thing. 1305 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,000 Speaker 2: I just I know, interesting that like a whole group 1306 01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,000 Speaker 2: of adults was working to make this happen. 1307 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and they keep adding more sex hot fix, 1308 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,720 Speaker 3: there's more sex. We added a hot fix, so there's 1309 01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 3: more sex scenes. 1310 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,400 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, do we have anything left to say about Backyard? 1311 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 2: I mean this treasure trope that I've gotten, I know, 1312 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,360 Speaker 2: what are you going to do with it? I have 1313 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 2: I'm buying a car, two snowmobiles, job of course. No, 1314 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:21,680 Speaker 2: these will clutter my home for a long definitely coasters, yes, yeah, 1315 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,800 Speaker 2: so then eventually I'll I'll die and my nieces will 1316 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 2: be like, well, what what do we do with any 1317 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,040 Speaker 2: of them? They'll be even more valuable. Yeah, I mean imagine. 1318 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,480 Speaker 3: I hope you have a proper storage unit for this. 1319 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, I could be on Storage Wars at some point, 1320 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,880 Speaker 2: I hope. So I'm going to fake my death in 1321 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,080 Speaker 2: order to be on Storage Wars. Have a whole thing 1322 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,960 Speaker 2: full of stuff, fake my death and then they open it. 1323 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,400 Speaker 2: I've got a count. I need to think through the details, 1324 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,920 Speaker 2: but it could work. I think it's a brilliant idea. Well, 1325 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,480 Speaker 2: I think it's time to play a game. We're going 1326 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,320 Speaker 2: to play a game called Gift or a Curse, and 1327 01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,280 Speaker 2: I need a number between one and ten from you. 1328 01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,880 Speaker 2: Uh two, Okay, I have to do a little bit 1329 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,480 Speaker 2: of light calculating to get our game pieces. So right 1330 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 2: now you can promote, recommend, do whatever. 1331 01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:11,080 Speaker 3: You want with the microph. I see, well, I don't. 1332 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,160 Speaker 3: I wanted to promote my I always feel weird promoting. 1333 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 3: But you guys can follow me on my social media 1334 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 3: at Joe Castle Baker and I produce shows monthly in Brooklyn, 1335 01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:29,560 Speaker 3: and I do shows in LA sometimes. And yeah, you 1336 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,160 Speaker 3: can catch me on TV on some TV shows and 1337 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 3: you can look me up on IMDb where I where 1338 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,040 Speaker 3: I really shine the brightest. 1339 01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 2: That's great. I mean, promoting something is the most uncomfortable 1340 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,120 Speaker 2: thing in the world, in the world, especially when I 1341 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 2: just blindside you with it. No, but you did an 1342 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,600 Speaker 2: excellent show. Thank you so much. Buddy followed Joe, go 1343 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,480 Speaker 2: harass Joe. This is how we play Gift or a Curse. 1344 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to name three things you're going to tell 1345 01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 2: me if they're do not look at the screen, Okay, 1346 01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:57,959 Speaker 2: I won't. 1347 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,360 Speaker 3: I'm blind by the way, I can't see anything asks 1348 01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:01,480 Speaker 3: one foot in front of me. 1349 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna name three things. You'll tell me if there 1350 01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,520 Speaker 2: each one is a gift or a curse and why? Okay, 1351 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:09,919 Speaker 2: And then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong, 1352 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 2: because they're correct answers and you can lose. Okay, this 1353 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 2: number first one is from a listener named Parker Gift 1354 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:22,800 Speaker 2: or a curse No show socks curse? Why? Well, first 1355 01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:27,040 Speaker 2: of all, what are you scared of? What are you 1356 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:27,640 Speaker 2: trying to hide? 1357 01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,520 Speaker 3: And also what you think your ankles are so beautiful? 1358 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 3: Let's you know, have a little humility and show show 1359 01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:40,280 Speaker 3: those socks. 1360 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:41,040 Speaker 2: We know they're there. 1361 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:43,720 Speaker 3: And so I think it's a curse. I think it's 1362 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,640 Speaker 3: for people who have everything wrong about society. 1363 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 2: Joe wrong. What a horrible way you're lying. 1364 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:53,920 Speaker 1: What gift? 1365 01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:58,360 Speaker 2: There's a time and a season for everything. Sure, no 1366 01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:00,200 Speaker 2: show socks. They've got to have a purpus. 1367 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,480 Speaker 3: I'm really scared where we're sitting here. 1368 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,200 Speaker 2: Maybe some people their only good quality is their ankle, 1369 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:07,320 Speaker 2: and what are they supposed to. 1370 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,600 Speaker 3: So you are so right, that is not the backyard 1371 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:10,800 Speaker 3: football thing for me to write. 1372 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:14,640 Speaker 2: You've got to be a little bit more, you know, 1373 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,560 Speaker 2: just entirely positive about everything, including the ankle. Okay, and 1374 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,760 Speaker 2: the no show sock is maybe for that sort of person, yes, 1375 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,840 Speaker 2: And also you know, maybe somebody over invested in no 1376 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,720 Speaker 2: show socks and they're thinking, well, now I want to 1377 01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 2: knee sock, but I've got too many of these and 1378 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:30,400 Speaker 2: they feel horrible. 1379 01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 3: This is really painting a picture that's changing my mind. 1380 01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,679 Speaker 2: Right, I'm hoping that there's some level of guilt surging 1381 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,559 Speaker 2: through your body. Okay, so one is wrong so far, 1382 01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,960 Speaker 2: and that's bad. Number two This is from a listener 1383 01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,559 Speaker 2: named Ben Gift or a curse food adjectives for non 1384 01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:51,240 Speaker 2: food items, for example, on My Lottery dream Home. In 1385 01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,360 Speaker 2: quotes this yummy closet. That was the word I was 1386 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 2: thinking of, too. 1387 01:08:55,920 --> 01:09:01,320 Speaker 3: Absolute curse, absolute curse. I just I find it to 1388 01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:05,360 Speaker 3: be very perverse, and I use that word very I 1389 01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,680 Speaker 3: don't use it lightly. Let's just say that I think 1390 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,960 Speaker 3: when we start accusing people of being perverts, it goes 1391 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 3: to a new level of almost like a witch hunt. 1392 01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,000 Speaker 3: And this is where the witch hunt needs to go. 1393 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:21,240 Speaker 3: People that say yum, yummy, ooh that looks so delose 1394 01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,320 Speaker 3: or even sexy about something that's not sexual, that too 1395 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,360 Speaker 3: feels similar. I'm like, oh, God, like got a grip, 1396 01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,640 Speaker 3: you know, Like it's like it's like your mind is 1397 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:34,320 Speaker 3: so loose that you can't even think. Everything's kind of blending, 1398 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:38,280 Speaker 3: you know, have some you know pull up those socks 1399 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,840 Speaker 3: and start using the right word. You know, that's what 1400 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:45,920 Speaker 3: I would think, Joe, wrong, You're lying, is what's going 1401 01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 3: on here. 1402 01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,680 Speaker 2: This is a gift. To hear somebody say yummy in 1403 01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,640 Speaker 2: any situation is a shock to the system. And I 1404 01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:56,720 Speaker 2: absolutely I mean talk about feeling alive to be in 1405 01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,320 Speaker 2: the presence of someone who's called something a yummy closet. 1406 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:03,680 Speaker 2: Oh god, we should be using all kinds of food adjectives. 1407 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,799 Speaker 2: Melt in your mouth that could be used for anybody. 1408 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,200 Speaker 2: This melt in your mouth microphone I'm holding right now, 1409 01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:18,920 Speaker 2: this backyard is absolutely melt in your mouth. It makes sense. Okay, 1410 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:24,280 Speaker 2: wrong again and everyone is disappointed. I bet we've lost 1411 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,760 Speaker 2: a lot of listeners. Just kind of turn it off, 1412 01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,080 Speaker 2: wait for the next episode, and that's okay. You've gotten 1413 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,000 Speaker 2: zero so far. Number three. This is from a listener 1414 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:38,479 Speaker 2: named Jennifer Gift or a curse typing in www dot 1415 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:39,639 Speaker 2: before a website. 1416 01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:46,840 Speaker 3: I say, Gift, Why, well, I think it's almost kind 1417 01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,240 Speaker 3: of like somebody who makes their own yogurt or something 1418 01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,479 Speaker 3: like that, you know, like it's like you don't need to, 1419 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:53,880 Speaker 3: you don't need to. 1420 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:55,400 Speaker 2: We've made it easier for you. 1421 01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:59,080 Speaker 3: But it's almost like we're reminding ourselves of a time 1422 01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:03,519 Speaker 3: that's not here anymore, and it's this it's almost kind 1423 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,400 Speaker 3: of like getting back to the basics in this beautiful way. 1424 01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,120 Speaker 3: So I think it's a gift. And how much does 1425 01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,720 Speaker 3: it cost? What a second of your time? I think 1426 01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:13,400 Speaker 3: it's beautiful. 1427 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,439 Speaker 2: Correct, there we go. You got a point. Thank god, 1428 01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,320 Speaker 2: that's a gift, putting in the little extra work, show 1429 01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,960 Speaker 2: some respect to the U r L. Exactly. I think 1430 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,200 Speaker 2: it's nice. It is kind of a farm to table 1431 01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,519 Speaker 2: type thing, you know, very we're just uh talking about 1432 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:35,000 Speaker 2: yet that Yeah, that is a yummy you are exactly, Yeah, 1433 01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,720 Speaker 2: absolutely right. I mean you said it so beautifully. I 1434 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,559 Speaker 2: can't even add to that. And I'm glad you got 1435 01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:46,759 Speaker 2: one point. I'm glad too, because we were all rooting 1436 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,960 Speaker 2: for you ultimately, and if you had lost, I don't 1437 01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:50,799 Speaker 2: know what would have happened. 1438 01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,000 Speaker 3: I'm noticing a theme here. 1439 01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:52,479 Speaker 1: Wow. 1440 01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,679 Speaker 3: But I'm gonna stay true to my guns and say 1441 01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,880 Speaker 3: when it's a curse, even when I don't, even when 1442 01:11:59,040 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 3: society might be a. 1443 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,160 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you got one right. I think it's 1444 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,080 Speaker 2: time for the final segment of the podcast. This is called. 1445 01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,479 Speaker 2: I said, no emails, people write into I said, no 1446 01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:13,600 Speaker 2: gifts at gmail dot com. Desperate for answers, begging, just 1447 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,880 Speaker 2: pleading for help. Will you help me answer a question? Yeah? Okay, 1448 01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:20,559 Speaker 2: this is deer Bridger and guest. My husband turns forty 1449 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,760 Speaker 2: this year and I am unsure what to get him. 1450 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,439 Speaker 2: Turning forty seems like an event, but he has given 1451 01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,839 Speaker 2: no indication how he would like to spend his birthday 1452 01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,680 Speaker 2: or what he would like. He loves running Formula one, 1453 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:36,360 Speaker 2: racing and making things. That's a very broad thing or whatever. 1454 01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,720 Speaker 2: The tricky part is that I turn forty only six 1455 01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,840 Speaker 2: weeks after him. Anything I do for his birthday sets 1456 01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,240 Speaker 2: the bar for mine, so if I do something big, 1457 01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,960 Speaker 2: he may feel obligated to do something over the top 1458 01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,839 Speaker 2: for me. Plus, I am worried that all my ideas 1459 01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:52,960 Speaker 2: are actually how I would want to spend my day 1460 01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,320 Speaker 2: slash gifts I would want, so I'm having a hard 1461 01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,719 Speaker 2: time making a decision. Last part is that I always 1462 01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:00,320 Speaker 2: think I have a good idea for him, and he 1463 01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:05,320 Speaker 2: is regularly underwhelmed. This adds to my indecision. Any help 1464 01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:07,720 Speaker 2: you could provide would be appreciated. Thank you, And that's 1465 01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:12,439 Speaker 2: from Katie, whoa, I mean dump him? Yes? Are you 1466 01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:13,599 Speaker 2: ever liked any of her gifts? 1467 01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:17,479 Speaker 3: And spend some time thinking about yourself? You know, I'm 1468 01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:20,320 Speaker 3: blown away. I don't know where to even begin. 1469 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you get for a forty year old 1470 01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,840 Speaker 2: man who wants to who likes racing cars and running? 1471 01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,120 Speaker 2: Guess he likes to go fast of speed? Yeah? What's 1472 01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,799 Speaker 2: a third fast object you could get this person? Tesla? 1473 01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:36,800 Speaker 3: I don't know, I am in I guess you know what. 1474 01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 3: Don't worry about your birthday. Let him handle that. That'll 1475 01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:41,679 Speaker 3: take one thing off the table. 1476 01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:43,080 Speaker 2: Stop worrying about yourself. 1477 01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,719 Speaker 3: It'sop worrying about yourself. Quit being self exactly, and maybe 1478 01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:47,959 Speaker 3: you can buy a better guess. 1479 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:51,000 Speaker 2: Think more about your husband. Think about your husband constantly. Yes, 1480 01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,559 Speaker 2: this man who doesn't care about anything you've ever given 1481 01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:54,320 Speaker 2: him exactly? 1482 01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,560 Speaker 3: Well, look, I think you have to. I wish you 1483 01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,759 Speaker 3: had told us what you had given him in the past. 1484 01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:02,960 Speaker 2: Right that's been yeah exactly, because I mean she only 1485 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,360 Speaker 2: knows three things about him. I know how long have 1486 01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:08,360 Speaker 2: you been together? I mean it's probably decades. I imagine 1487 01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:09,840 Speaker 2: probably forty years. 1488 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:15,000 Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, it's one of those infancy marriages. Yeah, I 1489 01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:19,519 Speaker 3: don't even know. I think, I mean, why, no doubt, 1490 01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,960 Speaker 3: give four gifts, that's how I get Yeah, do multiple gifts? 1491 01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you like it's kind of a throwing what does 1492 01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:29,120 Speaker 2: the phrase throwing spaghetti? Yes, exactly, something will stick exactly. 1493 01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,960 Speaker 2: And if he's unhappy with all of them, then he's 1494 01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:37,240 Speaker 2: obviously trying to undermine her exactly. And what's going on there? Right, 1495 01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:41,920 Speaker 2: there's trouble brewing. There's divorce in the future, yes, which 1496 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,599 Speaker 2: we do recommend. Yes, hire an attorney right now. Yeah, 1497 01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,600 Speaker 2: maybe that's the gift she always wants to spend the 1498 01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:54,679 Speaker 2: day with a uh, divorce, Katie, you have so many 1499 01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,000 Speaker 2: options here. I don't even know if we have anything 1500 01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:58,519 Speaker 2: else we can say about this. 1501 01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,439 Speaker 3: I would say, go on a trip. Go on a 1502 01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,360 Speaker 3: trip so that he can maybe discover new interests. 1503 01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:08,880 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, right, yeah, yeah, go somewhere that doesn't involve 1504 01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:10,840 Speaker 2: where he won't be able to run, where he can 1505 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:16,160 Speaker 2: slow down. Yeah, somewhere with a hammock exactly, spa I 1506 01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 2: recommended a spat earlier on this podcast, exactly. I mean, 1507 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,720 Speaker 2: go to that one that could take care of a 1508 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:26,320 Speaker 2: lot of books for you, Katie. Yes, I think we 1509 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,439 Speaker 2: answered it perfectly, I agree, And if she complains, then 1510 01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,479 Speaker 2: she's obviously catching this from her husband. And it's a 1511 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:37,040 Speaker 2: poisonous relationship varies. It's spreading out into podcasts, Yes, toxic. 1512 01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:40,400 Speaker 2: A bit at home, Katie. Happy fortieth birthday to you 1513 01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:46,000 Speaker 2: and yours. Don't write back, Joe. I can't believe the 1514 01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:51,880 Speaker 2: retail value of what you've given me today. I can't either. Devastating. 1515 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:53,000 Speaker 2: I'm blown away. 1516 01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:55,519 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm really lucky that I'm going to find 1517 01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,439 Speaker 3: that Backyard Football CD run back home. 1518 01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like this is a moral dilemma. 1519 01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:03,800 Speaker 3: For me, I know, I mean, how much is that 1520 01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:05,720 Speaker 3: Hanson CD. We didn't even look up the Hanson CD 1521 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:09,200 Speaker 3: or the cookbook? God knows how much. I'm told you 1522 01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:10,519 Speaker 3: know how much value there is there? 1523 01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:15,320 Speaker 2: Right, I'm sure this is probably over fifty thousand dollars gifts, 1524 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:19,880 Speaker 2: and so I could probably take off a year of 1525 01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,960 Speaker 2: podcasting just stop, just give it up, you know, and 1526 01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,120 Speaker 2: go treat myself. Yes, exactly, go on a little vacation 1527 01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:31,559 Speaker 2: with hadian husband. Well, thank you for being here. I've 1528 01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,439 Speaker 2: had a wonderful time. Likewise, thanks for having me listener. 1529 01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:38,439 Speaker 2: The podcast is over. If you hadn't already left. It's 1530 01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:42,360 Speaker 2: time to stop, and you're listening. Do something else with 1531 01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:51,240 Speaker 2: your day. I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts 1532 01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,439 Speaker 2: is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear 1533 01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:58,040 Speaker 2: friend Analise Nilson, and it's beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. 1534 01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,800 Speaker 2: And we couldn't do it without our guests. Booker Patrick Coottner. 1535 01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:05,960 Speaker 2: The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle 1536 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,920 Speaker 2: worker Amy Man. You must follow the show on Instagram 1537 01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:11,800 Speaker 2: at I said no Gifts. I don't want to hear 1538 01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,280 Speaker 2: any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of 1539 01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:16,519 Speaker 2: all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want 1540 01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:21,599 Speaker 2: to see pictures of the gifts? And I invited you hear. 1541 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:28,880 Speaker 1: Though a man myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest 1542 01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:37,040 Speaker 1: to Ma, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, 1543 01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:44,280 Speaker 1: no gifts. Your presences presence enough, and I'm already too 1544 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:49,160 Speaker 1: much stuff, So how do you dare to survey me