1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: We are rolling into the third hour. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Lots of news out there, Trump and Davos. We have 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: talked quite a lot about that, the Greenland debate, but 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: continuing now for a couple of weeks as a major 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: story everything that is surrounding Minneapolis. 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 2: We talked to her a couple. 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: Of weeks ago, and at that point in time I 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: was hopeful that she might be willing to put her 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: foot forward and step into the race. 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: Now she has done so. 12 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Former NFL sideline reporter Michelle Tafoya. She lives in Minnesota, 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: and she has thrown her hat into the ring to 14 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: compete in the Republican Senate primary in Minnesota to potentially 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: run for the Senate in November in the state of Minnesota. 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: So as we bring in Michelle Tafoya, congratulations you have 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: officially announced. We have shared your announcement video. What was 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: the deciding factor and what should we know about your 19 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: now announced campaign to bringing a Republican voice of sanity 20 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: to the state of Minnesota. 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 3: A state that really needs some sanity. Guys, it's great 22 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: to see you. Thanks for having me on. You know, 23 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: when I talked to you. A couple of weeks ago, 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: I was close to making this decision, and I think 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 3: just we are suffering a crisis here in Minnesota. We 26 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 3: are at crisis levels, a crisis of leadership, a crisis 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: of law enforcement, a crisis in the middle class, and 28 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: it it became very apparent to me that the career 29 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: politicians are not coming to save us, and so I 30 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 3: feel like the rest of us have to put our 31 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: foot forward and do this and clean up this mess. 32 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 4: Look, I've lived here over thirty years. I love it here. 33 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: I've raised my kids here, my family and my husband, 34 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: and I've raised our kids here, and I remember the 35 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: Minnesota that I'm sure you guys have visited, which is 36 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: peaceful and you know, safe streets, safe towns, and great schools. 37 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: But we've been in decline and it's hard to watch 38 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: and it's sad to watch, and we've lost some people. 39 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 4: They've moved out, and I've talked. 40 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 3: To fourth and fifth generation Minnesotans who don't want to 41 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: move out, and they want sanity, and they want common sense, 42 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: not the corruption that we've seen with all this fraud, 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 3: not the craziness. 44 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 4: And so that's why I'm running for Senate. 45 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: What has to happen for there are a lot of 46 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: independence that Michelle, thanks thanks for being here. It's buck 47 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: a lot of independence in your state. And there's a 48 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: big political independence street, right, and so this is I 49 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: think we can throw people sometimes because Okay, we've got 50 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: a lot of independence. What else would they have to 51 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: see from Democrat governance of this state to start to 52 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: consider themselves. 53 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 2: Right leaning independence? 54 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: I just wonder where they if you could kind of 55 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: frame or put in in context the mindset of the 56 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: Minnesota independent right now, how could you be in the 57 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: middle when one side is screwing everything up? 58 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think we saw a significant marker 59 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: of that when Tim Walls withdrew from the gubernatorial race. 60 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 3: He saw the writing on the wall he was not 61 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 3: going to win. 62 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 4: He was convinced to step down. 63 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 3: So I don't know who the Democrats are going to 64 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: put in the gubernatorial race, but I think what they're 65 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: seeing is that a lot of Minnesotans are fed up 66 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: and that they are ready for a change of some kind. Look, 67 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 3: the political elites have been running this state and not 68 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: running it well. And even our folks in Washington. Amy 69 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: klobashar Angie Craig. They were supposed to be mining the 70 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: store and they let things fall through the cracks. So 71 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: this is widespread failure of leadership. And I think the 72 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: Minnesotans that I talked to they're seeing that. They get 73 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: that Tim Walls got it, and so I think we 74 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: may be about to see a change, and I think 75 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: that people are starting to wake up to it. 76 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: A huge part Buck mentioned of the independent voice in 77 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: Minnesota is the kind of place that elect Jesse Ventura. 78 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: For people who remember this back in the day, and 79 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: I was reading Michelle, and I'm sure you're going to 80 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: see this a ton as you start to travel the state. 81 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: What really Minnesota represents is there's a Minneapolis view for 82 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: what the world should look like, and then there's a 83 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: whole lot of other people all over the state of Minnesota, 84 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: in different communities who have a completely different view of 85 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: what the world should look like. How do you manage 86 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: that divergence between what I would say is rural red 87 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: state Minnesota that overwhelmingly votes Republican and Minneapolis, which overwhelmingly 88 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: wrote votes blue and drags the state very often in 89 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: its direction. In other words, how do you get because 90 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: you're going to have to get a bunch of them 91 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: some people in Minneapolis to be able to see that 92 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: they need to come to the side of sanity. 93 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 4: Sanity is the word there. 94 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 3: Look, yes, I'm going to have to earn every single vote, 95 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: and I know every candidate says that, but in this 96 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: case it's absolutely true. Because we're fighting an uphill battle, right, 97 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: so we have got to get turnout. We have got 98 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: to get every Republican to the polls. And then yeah, 99 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: I'm going to talk to everyone. I am going to 100 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 3: talk to every because I want to represent everyone. I 101 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 3: don't like the division in this state, and I think 102 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 3: ultimately people have much more in common, and that's been. 103 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 4: Proven to me. 104 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: I've got friends on the other side of the aisle 105 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: who are pulling for me because they see this nonsense. 106 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 3: They see the insanity, they see the fraud, they see 107 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 3: law enforcement having their hands tied, and they're tired of it. 108 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 4: And the fraud really. 109 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: Is making everyone pretty sick because that was billions and 110 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: billions of dollars supposed to go to kids, right, and 111 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: it said it went to these criminals. And I would 112 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 3: urge Minnesotans of every strip to look at their pay 113 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: stubs and ask themselves about their taxes. What did it 114 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: pay for? Are we filling potholes or are we buying 115 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: lakeside property for these thieves. So I think a lot 116 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: of people are waking up to that and understanding that 117 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: what they thought Tim Walls and Peggy flan again were 118 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 3: is not who they are. And so there, I just 119 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 3: I believe that we have more in common across this state. Look, 120 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: there are some votes I'm never going to get right, 121 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: just absolutely never, and you accept that going in. But 122 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: that independent streak, I think they're ready. 123 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: Do you have any we're speaking of Michelle Tafoya, she's 124 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: running for Senate in Minnesota. And you know, we're always 125 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: heartened by the fact, Michelle, that we've got a great 126 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: station in Minneapolis and we're heard across much of the state, 127 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: I think pretty much, you know, certainly the greater Minneapolis 128 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: metro area. So there are sane people in your state. 129 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: And it was a pretty close election the last time. Right, 130 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: you're not trying to you know, you're not trying to 131 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: flip Massachusetts red or something there, Right, I mean, you've 132 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: actually got a real shot here. It's a very close 133 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: election in this last election, by the numbers, just for 134 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: the presidency. But in terms of the fraud and cleaning 135 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: things up, one of the concerns that I can see 136 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: it is you've got a Democrat governor, you got Democrat senators, 137 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: You've got a Democrat state attorney general, you got a 138 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: Democrat Frye in the city of Minneapolis. Is this something 139 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: that the Trump administration needs to dive into you on 140 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: the federal side, just so we can get some answers 141 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: about what's going on. 142 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I think that a lot of that 143 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: has been done. 144 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: We've had you knows lawyers here looking into it, and 145 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 3: that's where a lot of it's been found. Absolutely, because 146 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 3: clearly the folks running the state aren't going to do it, 147 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 3: so we need to. And a lot of these tax dollars, 148 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: as I mentioned, weren't just Minnesota's. They were US tax 149 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: dollars that were being funneled to Minnesota to help with 150 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: autism centers, to help with feeding kids, all of these things. 151 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 3: So I think that everyone should be ticked. I don't 152 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: think Minnesota is alone. I think we're going to see 153 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: a lot more in other states. And I think that's 154 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 3: going to have to come from the FEDS looking into 155 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: this and saying. 156 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 4: Where is it? What is it? 157 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: Can we claw any of it back? And how do 158 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: we stop it? And how do we not let this 159 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: happen again? You know, there need to be guardrails. There 160 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: need to be serious guardrails. If the federal government is 161 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: going to give your state money for specific use, there 162 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: need to be guardrails. And those clearly were not put up, 163 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: or they were clearly people just looked aside or they 164 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 3: didn't ask the tough questions because it was politically incorrect 165 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: to do so. 166 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 4: So I don't think the FED is going. 167 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: To care about federal government's going to care about political correctness. 168 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: Michelle, you made millions of dollars working in sports. A 169 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: lot of people know you from the sidelines. Oh good time, 170 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: Good for. 171 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: You, Michelle. I Clay said that love. 172 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm not tossing it out there. I'm not tossing it 173 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: out there as an insult. You had a good job 174 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: in sports. Some people are already saying, oh, she was 175 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: a sideline reporter, what the heck does she know about politics? 176 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: You might be surprised, Michelle. A lot of people don't 177 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: always say nice things about me. I came from the 178 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: world of sports. I actually I yell at them, though, Michelle, 179 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: I don't let them get away with that. But I 180 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: do think it speaks well for you because you had 181 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: my point on This is what many people would consider 182 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: to be a dream job. You traveled, you got to 183 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: stand on the sideline watch amazing athletes play the most 184 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: popular sport in America, the NFL, and as your career evolved, 185 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: you eventually couldn't stay silent anymore. What would you say 186 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: to critics who say, oh, she's just a dumb sports person. 187 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: Why in the world is she going to be a politician, 188 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: because that's out there. I've already seen it when I 189 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: shared your video. People often say mean things about me 190 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: in the same way, right, so I'm familiar with it. 191 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: But to me, it's actually a positive for you because 192 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: you had a great job, but you couldn't stay quiet 193 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: because of what you saw happening to the country. I 194 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: imagine that's part of your answer. But how did you 195 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: come from sports to here? 196 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 3: Look, nine to eleven really changed me, guys. I know 197 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: it changed lots of people in America, but look, my 198 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 3: dad was a kind of the son of legal immigrants, 199 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 3: told me every day of my life how lucky I 200 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 3: was to be born in this country, and I took 201 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 3: that to heart, and so I always appreciated and was patriotic. 202 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: I wasn't always conservative. I went to Cal Berkeley, but 203 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 3: you know, then I went to grad school and I 204 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 3: got a master's in business from Southern cal and that 205 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,479 Speaker 3: sort of started my awakening about like taxes and finance 206 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 3: and how things are done. Yes, I had my dream job. 207 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: I got to cover the Olympics. I got to cover 208 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: the NFL, the NBA, all kinds of college sports. It 209 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 3: was phenomenal. I traveled a ton. But that doesn't mean 210 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: that we don't read. It doesn't mean that we don't 211 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 3: pay attention. It doesn't mean that we don't study. And 212 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: I've done a lot of that at the same time 213 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: that I've been doing this job for the last you know, 214 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: since twenty twenty two, and that Super Bowl was my 215 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 3: last game. That's I have just dove in, dove in, 216 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: I have dove What is the right I dived in? 217 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: Reminded me dove in, by the way, But I've always 218 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: expert on garveryone who was. 219 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,239 Speaker 3: And I did, and I did swimming at the Olympics, 220 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 3: so I should really be better at that. 221 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 4: Dove dived thing. 222 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: But anyway, you get the idea, I have submersed myself, submersed, 223 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: immersed my. 224 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: First and submerged yourself. You combine those two words, which 225 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: should be a word I did. 226 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 4: That was kind of I'm not going to. 227 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,479 Speaker 2: Go there, George Bush, there we go, because. 228 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 4: This is like my one hundredth interview today. 229 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: But anyway, I have immersed myself in all of that stuff, 230 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: and in studying and reading and reading history. And Look, 231 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: you can be smart and wise about a lot of 232 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 3: things and be a sports reporter. And one of the 233 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 3: things my job taught me was how to ask questions, 234 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: how to hold people to account for their answers. I 235 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 3: dealt with owners, I dealt with gms. I dealt with 236 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 3: head coaches in good moods and in bad I dealt 237 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 3: with players. Look, I adopted my daughter from Bogota, Columbia. 238 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: We went through that whole legal process. I've been a 239 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: lot of places. I know how good America is and 240 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: how good it can be. So you know, if people 241 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: want to label me, that's up to them. I'm not 242 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 3: going to play that game. I'll just have to go 243 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 3: out and earn people's confidence. 244 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: Well, Michelle, when you win your Senate race. You have 245 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: to come back on and go head to head with 246 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: Clay with some football. 247 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: Sports picks for us. 248 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: Okay, because I want to see the Clay faces another 249 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: pro in the commentary business. 250 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: How he fares? 251 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: I don't know when I just said, I submersed. That 252 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 3: doesn't make me a pro in the commentary business, does it? 253 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 3: Or Dove dived? 254 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: Oh no, it definitely does. We make all kinds of 255 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: We have all kinds of kerfuffles here on this show. Oh, 256 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: I screw up everything when it comes to speech. 257 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 4: What's the reaction kerfuffle Land. 258 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: What's the reaction been from the sports media universe to 259 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: your decision personally on your phone. I'm not asking you 260 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: to tell you who said like, yes, I'm proud of 261 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: you or things like that, positive or negative that you've 262 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: decided to run in your own personal network of sports universe. 263 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: You know, I think it's been largely amazingly positive. And 264 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: I won't name names, but some of them might surprise you. 265 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 4: So it's been fun. 266 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 3: It's the first day, so I'm sure I'm going to 267 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 3: continue to hear from a lot of people, but I think. 268 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: We're I feel the support. I love that because they 269 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 4: know me. 270 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 3: These are friends of mine, these are people I've debated with, 271 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 3: and they know me, and they know what I bring 272 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: to this and what I won't do is lie. What 273 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 3: I won't do is sacrifice my integrity. So I think, 274 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 3: you know, look, that's the trust I have to build. 275 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: But I feel good about where I am and I 276 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 3: wouldn't be doing this if I didn't think we could win. 277 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: Amen, She's Michelle Tafoya. If people are interested in your campaign, Michelle, 278 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: where should they go? 279 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: Michelle Tafoya dot com, Michelle Tafoya dot This is going 280 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: to be a tough slog, guys. 281 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 4: It's going to be an uphill battle, and so we 282 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 4: need all the help we can get. 283 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: So if anyone wants to chip in or volunteer or whatever, 284 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: we'd love to have you on board because it's gonna 285 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 3: take It's gonna take a lot of work. 286 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: Amen. 287 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: We're looking forward to hearing how the campaign goes. I'm 288 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: sure we'll have you on quite a lot in Congrats 289 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: on the official launch, guys. 290 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 3: It's great to see you. Thanks so much for having me. 291 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 292 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: She has really good media presence. She should think about 293 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: a media career. Actually does a good job talking. 294 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: Thanks to Michelle, she's gonna I think, look, of all 295 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: the states out there, Minnesota, I think has become the craziest. 296 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: And the only way I think you can punch back 297 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: against crazy is Republicans have to show up and they 298 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: have to persuade. But Republicans have to also show up 299 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: in big numbers. And I want to see. It's an 300 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: open Senate seat, there's no incumbent. It's a relatively fair fight. 301 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. Look, we got some crazy winter 302 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: weather heading to Nashville. Thankfully we have rapid radios. I 303 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: didn't know we even had a generator. We were just 304 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: talking about this because it might get so wild that 305 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: maybe we're gonna get a couple of feet of snow. 306 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: And in Nashville, if you get a couple of inches 307 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: of snow, the whole city falls apart. 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We're gonna got a 345 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: lot of talkbacks coming in. 346 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: We gotta disentangle some of this, but I'm just gonna 347 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: say when it comes to a lot of you out there, 348 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: we love you all, a lot of you as prosecutors. 349 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: You take the Linda with the drug runners getting blown 350 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: up on the boats. 351 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: Approach. 352 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: Hang and jury out there for those of you, I 353 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: think it was Linda. When we were talking about the 354 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: drug boat charges. I couldn't stop they stop thinking about Linda. 355 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: I think it was Linda like just taking a drag 356 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: on her cigarette, just like waste them. Because Clay was 357 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: trying too, He's like, what if they're waving a tiny 358 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: white flag and they're holding an orphaned puppy. 359 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: In the light them up, Light them up. Fire. 360 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: I couldn't come up with anything that Linda would be like, 361 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: don't anything other than kill them. And we're running into 362 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: the same thing here with you know, it's a guy's 363 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: Tim Walls. 364 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: He's done. He's a hapless rube. He's the guy. You know, 365 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 2: he's got no power, doesn't really know anything. 366 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: What's the point, You're like, send them away, prosecute him, 367 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: whatever you gotta do, throw the kitchen sink at him. 368 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, WHOA, Okay, I don't know what Walls is. 369 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: So there are other people that I could see that 370 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: there would be this kind of reaction to. But I 371 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: don't think if Walls as somebody who we even care 372 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: about really anymore. When we come back, we will, we'll 373 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: break into some worthy stories. 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I 389 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: will read it directly for all of you from Davos. 390 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: Based upon a very productive meeting that I have had 391 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: with the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Root, we have 392 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: formed the framework of a future deal with respect to 393 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: Greenland and in fact the entire Arctic region. This solution, 394 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: if consummated, will be a great one for the United 395 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: States of America and all NATO nations. Based upon this understanding, 396 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: I will not be imposing the tariffs that were scheduled 397 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: to go into effect on February first. Additional discussions are 398 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: being held concerning the Golden Dome as it pertains to Greenland. 399 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: Further information will be made available as discussions progress. Vice 400 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: President jd Vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Special Envoy 401 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: Steve Whitcoff, and various others as needed, will be responsible 402 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: for the negotiations. 403 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: They will report directly to me. Thank you for your 404 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 2: attention to this matter. 405 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: Yesterday, Buck, the stock market sold off as people got 406 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: nervous about potentially there being conflict here, maybe even boots 407 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: on the ground attacks. Stock market is soaring and basically 408 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: erasing all of yesterday sell off as I speak to 409 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: all of you, and we are rapidly approaching yet another 410 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: all time record high in the stock market. Now, So 411 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: that is out there, Buck, what exactly that looks like? 412 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: Of course, the devil is in the details that we 413 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: as we have been talking about quite a lot, and 414 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: we got a whole lot of talkbacks of people that 415 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: want to go full Linda with the legal system. Throw 416 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: them away, lock, lock them up, throw away the key. 417 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: They're not they don't want to hear any nuance, any 418 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: any tactics. They're just like, enough is enough. So let's 419 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: let's make do you want to make our way through 420 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: some of the By the way, I start well with 421 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: Trump Greenland thing, yes, strain of salt. 422 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 2: Let's see. 423 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: I hope he's right, but you know, the beginning of 424 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: a framework for future deal. 425 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 2: I know Trump all don't have to know. 426 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: That could mean a lot of things totally, And I 427 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: would just say, in general, the people who panic every time. 428 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: I mean, we've been dealing with Trump now as a 429 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: person of political influence for over a decade. The degree 430 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: to which left wingers panic and immediately lose their minds 431 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: anytime Trump does anything, you would think it would change. 432 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 2: But Richard and Savannah Georgia Richard fire away. 433 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, good afternoon, gentlemen. Enjoy your show. I have been 434 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 7: listening to you since they took over from Rush. You 435 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 7: guys make me laugh out loud and sometimes make you 436 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 7: just want to scream. Anyway, I agree with you what 437 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 7: you just said about Greenland, about Trump. But why I'm 438 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 7: really calling though, is about earlier. I've been listening to 439 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 7: you guys about the DOJ bringing indictments and how a 440 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 7: Sister a farce and then won't work and the Sister 441 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 7: a joke. Well, you know that being said, the American 442 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 7: people voted for the dog and for Trump to bring 443 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 7: these people to justice, bring them to court. The American 444 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 7: people want true justice in the American way. To say, Superman, 445 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 7: that's what we want, and I don't care what happens. 446 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 7: The Democrats lost the end of minority, and all these 447 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 7: nuts that are in Minnesota are the same way. We 448 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 7: shouldn't worry about. 449 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: What we're not in disagreement. Sorry to cut you off. 450 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: We're not in disagreement with any of that. But the 451 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: question becomes, Richard, are you married? Yes, I am, Okay, 452 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: Before you were married, were you interested in potentially dating 453 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: a supermodel? 454 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: My bet is. 455 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm not gonna get you in trouble, not gonna 456 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: get you in trouble with your wife. But I bet 457 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: most of the men out there listening to us right now, 458 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: before you were married, you might have been interested potentially maybe, 459 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: And it's open to the idea I think is open 460 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 1: to the idea of this supermodel if she should cross 461 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: his path. Okay, and at some point in time, if 462 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: you were going to take the next step and actually 463 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: data supermodel, you would need to have a plan in 464 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: order to do so. What we are saying here, Thank 465 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: you for the call, Richard, and good luck with the supermodel. 466 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,239 Speaker 1: By the way, I have no idea where you're going 467 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: with the supermodel things. So I'm curious that analogy is 468 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: a good one. You can conceptually be in favor of 469 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: something that would be fantastic for you and hopefully the 470 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: country as well, but until you have a plan in 471 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: order to put that in motion, there is not actually 472 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: a tangible reality of it happening. What we have stepped 473 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: beyond is yes, there should be consequences for people who 474 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: break the law. But the question Buck asked, which is 475 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,719 Speaker 1: a good one? Is the important one. What are the 476 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: charges that can be brought? What is the tangible crime 477 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: that has been committed? And we always all we have 478 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: some people that are writing and saying I disagree with you, guys, 479 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: I think Letitia James should be chie We've said Leticia 480 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: James should be charged, Like you don't disagree. I'm saying 481 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: there is a crime that she is alleged to have committed. 482 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: She should not escape those, uh, you know, those consequences 483 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: because of political considerations, we no longer do that. We 484 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: shouldn't do that. I'm saying she should be prosecuted. You're 485 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: saying she should be prosecuted. I think that people who 486 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: lie under oath should be prosecuted. If Comy lied under oath, 487 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: he should be prosecuted. The only place where there seems 488 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: to be some disagreement. Is I'm saying, if for some 489 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: reason people want Tim Walls to be charged, I need 490 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: to know for what, Yes, And people who are saying 491 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: if you don't have an answer, it doesn't matter. 492 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 2: I say, that's not a good idea. You have to 493 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: have a for what. 494 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: Also important in a significant way, Tim Walls doesn't really 495 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: have any assets, so I don't believe team correct me 496 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. I don't think Tim tim Walls even 497 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: owns a home. So there are lots of politicians, we 498 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: can name a lot of them, Elon Otan takings, tap 499 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 1: dancing shoes, but yes, yes, but that get into office 500 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: and then become super wealthy. Tim Walls doesn't even own 501 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: a home, so charging him with a crime where he 502 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: benefited financially is going to be hard to do because 503 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: the dude has no assets, which is why I laid 504 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: out potentially the money campaign donations might be a way 505 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: if you look into it. I also think I have 506 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: not seen anything, and you can call me old fashioned, 507 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: but I have not seen anything to suggest that Tim 508 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: Walls has himself committed a crime. And I really mean 509 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: this being a moron, which he clearly is guilty of 510 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: is not a criminal offense. 511 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 2: So I don't know why. 512 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: Politicians in jail if being a moron was a criminal offense. 513 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: And before I get because I you know, we see 514 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: some of the headlines on some of the calls and 515 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: the talkbacks, we get here before anyone. 516 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 2: Else comes on. 517 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: The Somali fraudsters, of course should be prosecuted and should 518 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: go to prison. 519 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: The zero there's zero. 520 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: Disagreement with anybody who's calling in about that. Of course 521 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: they should because they committed a crime. But I just 522 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: think people are in this like we just got to 523 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: destroy the other side mindset. When and when I would say, 524 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: there are two problems with that. One, I'm not sure 525 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: it works as well as some people think it will. 526 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: That's to the point about okay, what's the crime? And 527 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: two is that really what we want? 528 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 7: Now? 529 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: We're just gonna have completely preposterous crimes like this. This 530 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: is why people keep saying it's the Trump thing is 531 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: not similar? Well, no, the Trump thing, the political blowback 532 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: of and maybe the twenty four or the thirty four 533 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: of felon accounts in New York is the even the 534 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: best example. The mar Lago raid they thought would destroy 535 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: Trump politically and it completely backfired in their faces. Yes, 536 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is if you just do something 537 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: that normal people can recognize is an abuse of the 538 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: law for political reasons, it can backfire on you. And 539 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: this is why bringing a charge against Tim Wallas that 540 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: we don't even know what the charge. 541 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 8: I don't know. 542 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 2: Where's this idea that Tim Wallas is going to be 543 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: charged for what I keep saying four on the market. 544 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: I think the best case for Tim Walls being charged 545 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: is the one that I laid out, and I think 546 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: it's a hard case to get a conviction on, but 547 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: I laid it out. Michael in Atlanta, you say you 548 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: want may Or Fry in Minneapolis charged with a crime. 549 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 2: What is the crime specifically? 550 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 8: Hi, guys, Well, I want to agree with you and 551 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 8: also disagree with you at the same time. And I'm 552 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 8: going to agree with you that there has to be 553 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 8: a crime. But where I'm gonna go disagree with you 554 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 8: is you were comparing earlier in your show. You were 555 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 8: comparing Fry with Trump, and you can't compare the two 556 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 8: because Trump really is the exception that disproves the rule. 557 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 8: What I mean is you go back in time in 558 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 8: the eighties. Trump was a rock star, bigger than most 559 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 8: rock stars. His life is completely different. He gets into 560 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 8: politics and he changes to a Republican And what we 561 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 8: saw is the Democrats basically want to sabotage him really 562 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 8: for who he was. Now Fry is nobody. He's a 563 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 8: mayor of Minneapolis, almost like mayor Pete being of of 564 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,959 Speaker 8: you know, South Bend. What I'm saying is he's not 565 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 8: gonna his profile is not going to be elevated because 566 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 8: he's indicted. 567 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: I think, I think, I think is wrong on that. 568 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: That'll be a major national story. But the bigger question 569 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: is his profile is massively elevated if he's charged at 570 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: a crime. What crime have you seen that you think 571 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: he should be charged with? 572 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 8: Well, I think obviously that's the question for Pam Bondy. 573 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 8: But that's where a lot of people are getting trustrated 574 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 8: because she's all, okay. 575 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: Okay, but I but thank you for the call. There's something. 576 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 2: There's something else here, Clay. 577 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: We saw him at the comparison with with Trump, and 578 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: by the way, we wanted to let the gentleman. 579 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 2: First of all, we appreciate him calling in. 580 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: And by the way, I like this, this is like, 581 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: what we this is what is my family? 582 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 2: Man? You should hear. 583 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: You should hear how my mom speaks to me if 584 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm being critical of Trump, I get, I get the 585 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: law laid out on me. She's like, how dare you 586 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: look what he's done. I'm like, well, I just don't 587 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: like this one thing. So even among family, you're gonna 588 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: have some disagreements. I would just say this, Clay. The 589 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: point about the comparison to Trump that I was making 590 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: isn't these are similar guys or similar situations. It's just 591 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,239 Speaker 1: proving the point that just bringing a charge in a 592 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: political realm, forget about everything else, can backfire politically in 593 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: a huge way. And that's why I think bringing a 594 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: specious charge against Waltz or Frey it's also immoral. I know, 595 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: I guess ethics, no one cares about it anymore, but 596 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: bringing a speed a clearly propri UST's charge just to 597 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: do it is a bad idea. Here is one that 598 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: I could give you for Fried, like, yes, I appreciate 599 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: the call. What I am saying is we're taking the 600 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: conversation above baanal generalities charge them with crimes, and I'm saying, okay, 601 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: what is this specific charge. I think you could potentially 602 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: and I look, go back and listen to the show, 603 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: or you like to say that word that way, I 604 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: think you're technically allowed to, but I prefer banal. 605 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 2: But anyway you like the. 606 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: Process based crimes, I think with the grand jury subpoenas, 607 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: they're potentially setting the table for process based charges when 608 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: there isn't a agreement to share documents that would be 609 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: potentially obstruction related. With the mayor of Minneapolis in particular, 610 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: I think Buck he may have given instructions to Minneapolis 611 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: Police as the mayor of the city, to not comply 612 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: with the instructions of the agents in Minneapolis, which could 613 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: set up a scenario where he is obstructing Ice from 614 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: being able to do their job, and they could potentially 615 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: charge him with crimes. There the whole sanctuary city element 616 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: in general, which I think it doesn't get talked about enough. 617 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: It's flagrantly unconstitutional. A city cannot, as a matter of 618 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: supremacy law, refuse to comply with federal law. Well give 619 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: picture charge that could apply across the board. 620 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: Just one thing here. 621 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: You know, Lindsay Halligan, you're not hearing a lot about 622 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,959 Speaker 1: her these days, and you're definitely not going to hear 623 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: her referred. 624 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: To as a. 625 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: US attorney because now another judge has said you are 626 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: not a lawfully appointed US attorney and you cannot even 627 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: use the title and end of story. 628 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: They messed this thing up. 629 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: It's very the statute is very clear you have to 630 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: be appointed within a certain time or else it reverts 631 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: to I think a federal judge in that district makes 632 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: the makes the this is black letter law, and the 633 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: DJ just said no, we think we have the right 634 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: to do this. 635 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 2: The DJ is wrong. And now they just lost. 636 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: And by the way, you might not care about this, 637 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: but she's the one who brought the charge against Komy 638 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: and because they lost in the because they lost with 639 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: her and letitious she got them both indicted. The reason 640 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: those indictments don't stand for Lindsay Howigan exactly. All the 641 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: flaw of the indictment, it's that they said she didn't 642 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: have the right to bring it. The indictment itself was fine, 643 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: it's the person who brought it because she's not a 644 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: lawfully appointed US attorney. And guess what she's not. She's 645 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: just not. I mean, I I hate to say it. 646 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,719 Speaker 1: I think she and I love what she did with 647 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: the because I think those two should be prosecuted. But 648 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: this is my point, Clay, you have to do things 649 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: in a way that's as Linda would say, smart. You 650 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: gotta be smart. You know, if you're gonna waste them, 651 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: you gotta be smart. That's that's my that's my take 652 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: on it. Where do you look at You look at 653 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: it like someone No, I've got I've got my my 654 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: whole sheet. I want to go to break. But we 655 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: got a bunch of callers. I was just looking to 656 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: see where the call right. The callers, Well, the callers 657 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: want a piece, they want to throw down. They're putting 658 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: on the brass knuckles. Let's go, let's go team, It's 659 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: go time, all right. Legacy Box is the company best 660 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: known for its ability to digitally transfer your family's old 661 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: videotape collection turn it into a brand new digital file 662 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 1: that allows you to revisit those memories. They've done this 663 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: for a million and a half families. 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Slash Buck say fifty five percent. 672 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 6: Today cheap up with the biggest political comeback in world history. 673 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 6: On the Team forty seven podcast, Clay and Buck highlight 674 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 6: Trump free plays from the. 675 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 2: Week Sundays at noon Eastern. 676 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 6: Find it on the iehet, a radio app, or wherever 677 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 6: you get your podcasts. 678 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay and Bucks. Just want to tell 679 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 2: any of your call any of the callers that are 680 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: on hold, or. 681 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: Any of you who are sending him talkbacks, if you're 682 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: going to be mad, be mad at play. 683 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 2: Why it doesn't matter. The process is the punishment and stuff. 684 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 2: So let's let's get to some of this. Here. 685 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: We have, Oh boy, we have a bunch of people 686 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: who are who are joining us and who are in 687 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: the mix. 688 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 2: And I'm saying that. 689 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: Mike in Las Vegas wants to talk to us about 690 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: Waltz in Minnesota. 691 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 2: What's going on? Mike? 692 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 5: Hey, guys, great show. Waltz was told by whistle blowers told. 693 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 7: Waltz about the crime a long time ago, and he 694 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 7: ignored us. 695 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 5: So he's concealing crimes. 696 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: But there have been thank you, There have been a 697 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: lot of charges brought in the Somali fraud case, and 698 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: being a moron is not necessarily a crime, unfortunately. So 699 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: I don't I don't find that to be a come 700 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: spelling argument. Again, do you think of all the members 701 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: of Congress we would have to frog march out of 702 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: their offices and cuffs if being a moron was criminal, 703 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: it would be it would be a long day. Steven Akron, 704 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: Ohio your case? What should be brought? 705 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 5: Hey, listen, guys, we've had the uh, we've had the 706 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 5: ability to let them have the audacity to march backwards 707 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 5: and do everything wrong. Okay, let's have the audacity to 708 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 5: do the right thing. 709 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 2: Okay. So what's the charge? 710 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 5: The dynamics of humanity play out here? Okay, assault or 711 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 5: not assault, but theft aiding in a betting conspiracy to 712 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 5: aid a bet finance crime. 713 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: Dig a little bit against against against Tim Walls, But 714 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: again thank you for the call. 715 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 2: You have to show that Kim Walls could spell aiding 716 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:47,919 Speaker 2: in a betting. 717 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: Also, again Tim Walls doesn't even own a home, so 718 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 1: you have to show in order for there to be charges, 719 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: you have to show some sort of tangible. 720 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: Act that he has done. 721 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: Now, if you want to argue with I did that, 722 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: sanctuary cities themselves are direct defiance of federal law. 723 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 2: I think that is a compelling case potentially. 724 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: I argued that if you want to say, hey, he 725 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: was benefiting campaign finance funds from Minneapolis, fraud came into 726 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: his coffers, I think those are potential cases that could 727 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: be brought. But just saying hey, like he's a cheater, 728 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: And again, there has to be a tangible act. And 729 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: I thought Lindsay Halligan did a really good job getting 730 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: those indictments. Again, they found tangible criminal acts that they 731 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: got a grand jury to indict for. That's the challenge 732 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: right now, that's facing the DOJ tangibly what did they do? 733 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: But we didn't pay attention to the rules and it 734 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: all got thrown out.