WEBVTT - TechStuff Looks at iOS 5 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.920 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:08.840 It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology with 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:17.560 tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello everyone, 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.760 welcome to tech stuff. My name is Chris Polette and 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:24.320 I am an editor at how stuff works dot com. 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:29.440 Sitting across from me as usual as senior writer Jonathan Strickland. Operator. 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:34.839 Could you help me place this call? Very nice? Thank you. 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:38.280 Today we are going to talk about an operator, uh 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:40.279 in a way, a small time operator, in a way, 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:42.720 a big time operator, depending on how you look at it. 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:46.839 It's an operating system for a portable set of portable 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:50.680 devices from Apple called Io S five. You may have 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:53.040 heard of it. I know some of you have, because 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.320 you've written in to ask us to talk about it 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:59.600 a lot. Yes, yes, so I O S five. The 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:03.200 the as of the recording of this podcast, latest generation 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:07.720 of Apple's mobile operating system for devices such as the iPhone, 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:11.240 the iPod Touch, and the iPad. Mm hm m m 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.160 uh yeah. There there are a lot of a lot 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:17.720 of changes in this operating system. Um. We'll probably have 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:21.280 to do one on the the latest generation of Android 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.360 operating systems coming up for ice Cream sandwich before you 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.280 write in and say ice creams and it's I know, 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.720 you know, we record this sort of right before lunch, 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:31.080 you know, and then in not like an hour and 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:34.800 a half before lunchtime, and didn't have breakfast either. So 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:37.280 so talking about iOS five doesn't make me hungry, but 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:39.400 we might have to do something about ice cream sandwich 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.200 comes up to bring some in. Um that's what tech 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:46.080 News today does. They bring in ice cream sandwiches when 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.000 they talk about it. I know because I was a 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:49.920 guest on the show and I skyped in and they 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.840 did not mail me an ice cream sandwich. You know, 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:54.480 it should be like one of the like the Captain 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.240 Kangaroo where you know, where you can't do that on TV, 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:00.280 where they just dropped stuff from the ceiling. I would 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.920 cream sandwich. I would have I would have loved that. 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:07.520 But let's get to the actual iOS five and what 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.520 the updates are to the system. And now, you know, 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:14.440 we don't tend to talk about operating systems that much 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:16.560 on this show, although we've we've done a few. We 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:19.440 did Windows eight, we didn't Mac os ten Lion, we 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:23.560 did Windows seven, and we did snow Leopard before that. Yeah, 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.720 and we've also talked about and we talked about Linux before. 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.079 I guess we do talk about operating systems a lot. 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:30.919 It just seems a lot. It seems weird to talk 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.480 about the updates, right, But you know, this is a 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.320 big deal because the uh, you know, when when the 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:41.200 iPhone four S was announced, UM, the initial reaction to 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.359 the iPhone for S from what I saw online. Now, 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:47.160 granted this is a a just a sliver of the 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:51.440 population of iPhone users was one of is that all? 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:55.919 But I think the iOS five was in some ways 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.440 even more important than the iPhone for S. And there 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:01.520 are some elements the iPhone for S that are pretty 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.880 darn cool that that tie into iOS five, and it's 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.720 you can only find it on the iPhone for S 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:10.080 as a matter of fact, that there's some there's some 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:13.760 tie in there. UM. Keeping in mind that up until then, 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.520 we we actually heard about iOS five at the Worldwide 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:21.080 Developer Conference earlier in two thousand eleven, in June. Yeah, 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:26.800 that's around yeah, And basically that's Apple's big Developer UM 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:29.920 conference where they talk to people who are writing software 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:34.720 for UM generally both the operating system for these mobile 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:38.280 devices and the Macintosh computer itself and sometimes for other 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:42.480 devices like Apple TV. Yeah yeah, um, and you know, 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.960 for for people who are not really following that uh, 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.760 that world, it can be kind of dry. I think 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.760 the same thing could probably be said for uh, for 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.440 the Windows developer conferences in Google io. Um, you know, 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.400 this is not really a general This is not generally 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:02.240 where you expect to hear this kind news. People. Occasionally 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:06.680 you'll have crazies like like myself or Chris log in 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.080 and try and find a live blog and follow line 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.680 by line as announcements are made. Because we actually find 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.960 the stuff really fascinating. Yeah. Well, I mean eventually it 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:18.320 will become fascinating for the consumer who's really into tech, 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:23.240 but you know, finding out about application programming interfaces APIs 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:27.720 and things like. Yeah, I mean, it will eventually become 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:31.800 relevant to the average person, but not necessarily. But um, 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.320 they announced quite a bit about iOS five at that point. 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.520 That's when we learned a lot about it. In the meantime, 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:40.880 we heard a lot from the tech media about because frankly, 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:45.080 listeners sort of asked us to speculate on the new 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:49.120 iPhone five and as it turned out, there wasn't one. Um, 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:52.400 but we did find out a lot about about iOS 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.880 five and a lot of the features, some of which 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.960 had been out on other operating systems such as Google's 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:02.400 Android UM and others which are sort of innovative. Now, 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:06.120 one of the ones we've actually developed dedicated an entire 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:11.440 podcast too, because uh iicloud ties into iOS five as 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:15.520 well as UH mac OS ten lion as well as 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.000 other elements. But we've already done a full episode on 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:20.880 i Cloud, so I don't think we really need to 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:22.960 touch on i Cloud that much other than to say 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.920 it's a cloud storage solution that allows you to put 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:32.360 files into the cloud and access them across all your 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:36.839 various Apple devices. Yeah, now it's not it's not for everyone, 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:40.359 I should point out, UM and the iOS five is 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.000 not for everyone. As a matter of fact. If you're 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:47.159 running a Macintosh UM and you're you want to use 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.560 i cloud, uh, you have to be using the new 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:54.000 the newest version macOS ten point seven, which is which 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:58.200 is lion UM. But you can use on anything that 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.760 will run iOS five. You can do that, which is 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:05.200 the last few iPhones UM, the last couple iOS or 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:08.080 I'm sorry, the iPod Touch and both versions of the 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:11.920 iPad UM and you can. You can actually see that 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.960 as soon as you update your device to iOS five. 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.359 My iPod Touch is a first generation so it is 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:21.760 not eligible. But I did update my iPad software to 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.680 iOS five, and the first thing that happens right after 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.320 you updated is it starts to ask you questions about 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.800 setting up the device. UM. You know, it wants to 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:32.920 know what your Apple I D is and whether or 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.400 not you want to sink to I Cloud. Um it 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:39.440 will continue to uh if you do agree to do that. Uh, 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.680 it will sink your address book, your calendars, UM, and 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:46.280 a lot of of other information to I Cloud so 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:50.719 that um it can sink across Say I did have 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:54.400 an iPod Touch or an iPhone UM, and I had 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:58.359 updated my Mac to iOS lion UM or I'm sorry 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.240 OS ten lion, I would be able to sink all 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:06.120 that information without having to worry about, you know, plugging 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.680 stuff in and and sinking a device to device. It 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.960 would sink at all from I Cloud. Yeah. And actually, uh, 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.720 we can touch on this just very briefly. There there's 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:19.000 been some criticisms about iOS five and I Cloud and uh, 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.240 and I thought I'd just go and and pipe up 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.000 on one of them. Since we're talking about the subject already. 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:28.120 I heard that apparently when you take photos and it 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:31.640 uploads to I Cloud, there's no way to delete them. 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:35.240 Oh so if you were to take a photo using 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.800 your iPod Touch, let's say, okay, so you've got an iPod. 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.960 iPod touches have cameras, right ones. Okay, so you can 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:46.080 tell that I have an iPod Classic people, so I 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.440 am well behind, although I've got lots of music on it. 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.360 So you take a photo of your iPod Touch and 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.280 it's got the eye cloud feature in there, and it's 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:56.760 not you're on WiFi, and it uploads to your eye Cloud. 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:00.000 Now that photo is visible to all the other devices 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.080 that are on that So let's say that you're sharing 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:06.560 devices with oh, I don't know, um, your your spouse, 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:11.160 Um that could you know? You could end up having 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.920 some problems there if you're taking photos of like you 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:17.480 think this one one thing that you're seeing is really funny, 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:19.360 and you want to send a photo to your best buddy, 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:22.120 but your your your spouse might not find it as 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.600 amusing as you do. Well, if you take the photo 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:25.920 and it goes to the eye Cloud and you can't 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.920 delete it, your spouse has access to that too. So 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.680 I'm being really delicate while I'm walking around this. I'm 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:33.080 just saying that if there are a lot of people 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:37.240 using the same sort of eye cloud, like like a 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.520 family or whatever, there could be potential problems. I'm sure 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.439 that that will be addressed if it hasn't been addressed already. 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:47.719 But it's a problem that I was alerted to. But 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:51.120 let's talk about some of them. The features of iOS five. 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:55.080 I want to talk about this notification center. It sounds 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:59.559 really interesting to me. So this notification center actually has 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:03.320 a little thing of notifications when when new technology, new 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.840 information is coming into your your iPhone. And I mean, 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.960 this is something that's really really phenomenal. I mean I've 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:13.160 only had this since two thousand seven on my Android phone. 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:17.400 I do smell snark. Um yeah, yeah, well, and it's 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.559 one of the things that I like on my Android phone. Um. Now, 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.480 on iOS five, if you have a device capable of 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:25.320 doing that, you can pull down from the top of 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.840 the screen. And when I say pull down, uh, you know, 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:29.800 we're talking about putting your finger at the very edge 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:33.160 of the screen where the menu bar is swiping down 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.880 and you can actually see the notifications and it looks 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.160 a little different. I'm showing Jonathan on my iPad. Now, 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:40.600 it looks a little different. They have the the gray 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:46.840 linen background behind it. Um, but it works very much 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:51.240 like the Android operating systems exact same feature. Well, you 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.240 could kind of expect that at this point, you know, 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:54.960 they all kind of know you could have kind of 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.720 expected it back in two thousand seven or two thousand eight, 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:01.760 but Apple just implemented. That's what I'm saying is they 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:05.280 they all kind of pick each other's good features and 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:08.160 will add them to subsequent releases. What it reminds me 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.440 of really is and you know, and I'm picking on 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:12.439 Apple a little bit about this, about being so late 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:14.960 to the game and implementing something like this in their 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:17.440 operating system. I'm picking on them. I mean, I'm glad 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.800 that they've done it because it is a useful feature, 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:22.480 and I'm glad that iPhone users and iPad users and 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.800 ipont touch users were be able to to take advantage 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.640 of it. That's the feature a lot. Yeah. Uh, the 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:29.720 reason why I'm picking on them is it's reminding me 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:33.439 a lot of how Apple was really slow to implement 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:38.080 copy and paste like or multitasking or multitasking, and these 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:41.400 are very basic features that you see in other smartphones, 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:45.400 and you wonder, like the people who are Apple fans 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:48.880 will say, I love Apple's products, I just don't understand 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:52.440 why they have not done something similar to this other 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:54.959 operating system that's been doing this for years, and you 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.719 would think that would be a fairly simple solution. Now, 0:10:57.760 --> 0:10:59.920 we don't know everything that's going on behind the scene. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:04.240 Are the motivations behind implementing versus not implementing certain features 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.960 there may be and in fact, I wager there are 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:11.240 very good reasons for the rollout being the way it 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:15.800 has been. But still from a from an outside perspective, 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:18.520 it just seems a little a little ludicrous. So I 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.800 couldn't help but poke just a touch of fun at 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.240 Apple for that. Well, a lot of the Android UH 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:28.880 fans like to poke fun at Apple for for doing that. Um. 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.080 That being said, Apple's got a lot of features that 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:35.240 Android does not support. Yeah, so I'm fully aware of 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:39.120 that Apple fans, So you know, UM, I've also heard 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.800 a lot of hooting about some of the bugs. There 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:47.679 have been some problems installing iOS five. Excuse me, Um, 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.040 I would I would actually add that I had trouble 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.600 installing iOS five at first. That just me a couple 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:54.560 of tries before I actually got it to work. I 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:57.560 think there may have been some some attempts to sync 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.560 with Apple servers and I tried to install it in 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:01.760 the first a and I think that may have been 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:03.320 part of it. So it might have been a bandwidth 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:04.800 this year. It might have just been that a lot 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.720 of people are flooding Apple with requests to to up 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:10.280 update the iOS. Is that what you're saying, But that 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:13.640 that seems fair with bugs and and concerns like this, 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:17.240 I feel that's kind of unfair anyway. It's a day 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:21.240 zero thing that's gonna happen with any major roll out. Yeah, 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.720 any operating system, and especially an operating system as popular 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:29.360 as iOS five, as as iOS I should say, any 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:32.320 operating system as popular as iOS that seems to be 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.160 magnified because you've got so many people trying to hit 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:38.760 it at once, that little problems that for for a 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:42.760 quote unquote regular operating system would you know, be noticed 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.400 by a few people, But because the adoption rate wouldn't 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:48.839 be so fast, it wouldn't be concentrated on day zero 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:52.680 so much. Uh, the company would have an opportunity to 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:57.360 patch problems on a regular basis, and so the average 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.560 consumer might not ever be aware that there were problems 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.120 because you know, there wasn't a rush to try and 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:06.600 adopt the operating system as soon as it became available Apple. 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.719 Apple's a rock star company. There are people who were 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:14.760 staying awake until the wee hours of the morning the 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:17.600 first few hours of October twelve eleven, which is when 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:21.560 iOS five became available, uh, just so that they could 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.040 try and get the operating system as fast as possible. 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:26.760 So I've heard about people like I know some guys 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.920 in Texas who are up till almost three am trying 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.360 to get it. So well, Frankly, you know, I have 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.560 an Android based smartphone and I would like to have 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:38.080 Gingerbread on it. I still have fro you, but I 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:41.400 am waiting for my phone carrier to push that to me. 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:43.360 I can't go get it. If I could go get it, 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.440 I would have already had it well. And and before 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.400 anyone writes in, yes, we know that if you could 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:51.120 take it to the store and have them force it, 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:54.439 or you could root your phone get a rom But 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.720 you know, Chris and I we both like our phones 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.720 to work. We're funny that way. Well, and that's the 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.120 thing is, I don't mind tinkering with it, but not 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.000 to the point where I break it and then I 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:10.960 have to go, well, I wanted it to work, which 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:13.840 I mean, the nice thing is that it's really hard 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.680 to truly break it, although you can. UM. But anyway, 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.200 let's get back to iOS five and talk some more. 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:21.600 You were talking about, you know, did you have any 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.760 other problems once you got through? Was the Was the 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:28.640 installation process smooth for you? Um? Basically, the first step 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:32.440 in doing this, uh, if you are running iOS four, UM, 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.480 you plug it into your computer and use iTunes to 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:38.800 upgrade the system software. And it says, lay, I see 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.680 there's an update available. Would you like to do this now? UM? 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.040 You say yeah, sure, And it takes a while for 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:47.920 it to download from from Apple servers. And then what 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:49.800 it tries to do is it's going to offer to 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:53.920 sink your your device UM with the computer first to 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:56.480 make sure that you don't lose anything that's gonna come 0:14:56.520 --> 0:15:00.160 up again too. UM. And uh, once it goes to 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:04.760 that process, UM, it attempts to write the software onto there. 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:08.080 And I actually got stuck a couple of times um 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:10.360 to the point where it said there's a there's an error. 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:14.200 I cannot actually uh install this software on here at 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.680 this time. Um, you know, give it a give it 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:18.960 a shot. And it actually said that it was having 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:22.880 trouble sinking uh once or twice two. Um. It was 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.400 one of those things where I think, uh, it may 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.160 have been a bandwidth thing. Um. It also may have 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.760 been a watched pot sort of thing, because I actually 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:32.600 told it to go ahead and try it again, and 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:34.280 then I went off to do something else, going well, 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:35.880 you know, hopefully it'll do it this time, and I 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.880 came back and it was almost done. Um. Once it 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:43.560 actually does install the software, then it reinstalls most, if 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.560 not all, of your your stuff. I didn't have any 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:50.360 problems with it, uh uh installing everything that I had 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:52.560 on there. But I understand that there are people who 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:56.120 have had apps missing and music missing. Yeah. Tom Merritt 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.800 of tech News Today and this Weekend tech Um But 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:03.040 was on his show. He mentioned that when he was 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:07.080 updating to iOS five, about half of his apps were missing. 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.400 When the installation was complete and he was able to 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:12.080 you know, get the apps again, but he had to 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:15.280 redownload them to his phone so uh, and he had 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.320 to do it I guess manually, because it just it 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:22.200 didn't do it automatically. And all of his playlists were missing. 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.480 So he had created playlists on and they were missing 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:29.200 not just from his phone but from iTunes, like they 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.120 were going, yeah the song, the music was still there, 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:36.480 it just wasn't arranged in the playlists. So yeah, so 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.600 he had that those issues, and we've heard of other 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:41.880 issues as well through the installation process. But again, this 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.040 is a day zero thing, and you know, those kind 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:47.880 of problems can can occur. Uh, it's just that you know, 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:50.360 normally we wouldn't hear so much about it if it 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:53.200 weren't for the fact that everyone's obsessed with getting it. Uh. 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:54.600 Do you want to talk about some of the other 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:57.120 features that iOS five has. I mean, I made fun 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.120 of notifications just because I wanted to get that out 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.440 of the way. But the notifications do look a lot 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:03.440 nicer than they used to, and you have a lot 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:07.080 more control over them there. If you go into um 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:12.800 your devices uh system settings, UM, you can actually control 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:17.320 how your notifications show up UM, which is nice. Again 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:20.800 that's sort of a behind the scenes type of thing. UM, 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:24.639 but you know, you can you could sort the notifications 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:30.080 um by time or or manually if you prefer um. 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:31.640 And uh, I mean, there are a lot of other 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:33.440 things that are are sort of behind the scenes to 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:37.240 like the Twitter um the Twitter integration. And this is 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.040 not very exciting if you are already a Twitter usier, 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:43.199 you already have Twitter on your iPhone or your iPad 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:46.639 or your iPod. But um, we're talking about a p 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:50.119 I S again. This is going to enable people. The 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.399 integration is going to enable people to build apps that 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:56.680 will allow you to tweet directly from those apps. Like 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:59.760 the the integration is much more fluid now than it 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:01.399 will as before. Well, it's kind of like if you 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:04.359 take a photo, now there's a one you're one touch 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.200 away from sharing that photo on Twitter instead of having 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.600 to you know, maybe go through a couple of commands. 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.359 It's it's really streamlined that which seems kind of it 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.000 may seem trivial, but it does make a big difference 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:17.639 when you're actually using these and uh as I can 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.320 attest because I've I've had that where you know, I 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.000 had to go through and upload a photo from my 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:26.719 phone to Twitter, and then eventually I had Twitter integration 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:28.919 where I could I could take a photo and then 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.359 choose at that moment to upgrade upload it to Twitter, 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:35.800 and it makes a huge difference. Um. Also, I always 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:40.160 five supports I Message across devices besides just the iPhone. Yes, 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:43.680 you can have I Message on the iPod Touch and 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:47.560 the iPad. So now and that's my message of course. 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:50.800 Is Apple's instant Messaging service, Yeah, I know it only 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:55.080 works with those eye devices, Um, but it's sort of 0:18:55.840 --> 0:19:00.000 People have likened it to the BlackBerry Messenger service, where 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:03.360 people who have Blackberries can message people with other Blackberries. Um. 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.800 I would say that people who complain about Apple's closed 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:11.640 offness are probably going to complain about this feature too. Um. 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:14.439 But it does give you the opportunity to send text 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:18.080 messages to other people who are using those devices, even 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:22.720 if they're on a different network. Um, you know, without 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:26.800 without a penalty. So uh, I say you have three 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:30.120 friends and all of you have iPhones. Um, you don't 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:33.119 have to pay for text messaging in addition to your 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:35.760 data plan. If you just want to send text messages 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:38.560 to those three or four friends, as long as they're 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:41.040 on an eye device, they can. You could you could 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.679 share those messages without having to worry about that. Um. 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:47.080 There's also the Reminder's feature, which is sort of a 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:49.800 built in to do list. Um. I've got a couple 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.199 to do programs on there. One of the two do 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:54.959 is a personal bug bear for me. I have trouble 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:58.200 getting myself to write stuff down in a particular place. 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:01.280 So I've tried several different ask managers trying to get 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.640 me to develop a pattern and then make a habit 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:08.159 out of writing stuff down. Um. The Reminder's feature is 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:10.520 pretty pretty nice built in to do list that I 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:14.480 haven't really tried yet. As as we're speaking, iOS five 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:18.080 has only been out for actually less than forty eight hours, UM, 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:20.840 so I still haven't really gotten to see whether that 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:22.399 one's a lot better. It seems to be kind of 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:24.760 a low end. Uh. You know, it's not. It doesn't 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:27.600 have a lot of bells and whistles, um, but it is. 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:31.160 It is built into the operating system now. iOS five 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:35.280 also supports some new functionality with the cameras involved in 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:39.359 various uh Apple products that run on iOS. Yes, so 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:41.480 now you can do things like with the iPhone, you 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:45.400 can uh you can activate the camera from the lock screen. Yeah, 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:48.159 which is nice. Although I imagine that also means we 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:50.760 will ultimately end up with a lot more photos of 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:54.560 the inside of people's pockets. Um, it is possible. One 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:56.840 nice thing about this is you might say, what's the 0:20:56.880 --> 0:21:00.320 big deal. Uh, you could hand your phone to a 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:02.760 friend and they don't have to know your pass code 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:05.280 to take a photo. Hey wait, wait, wait wait, I'm 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:07.359 gonna jump up here and and take a photo of 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:10.080 his statue, you know. And you could just take the 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:13.879 photo and uh, if somebody else gets hold of your phone, 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:15.800 they might be able to take a photo, but they 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:18.359 can't look at all the other photos on the phone. 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:20.800 It's also nice and that if you are in a 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:24.719 situation where something is um, there's a cool photo opportunity 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:27.760