1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology with 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello everyone, 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: welcome to tech stuff. My name is Chris Polette and 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: I am an editor at how stuff works dot com. 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: Sitting across from me as usual as senior writer Jonathan Strickland. Operator. 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: Could you help me place this call? Very nice? Thank you. 8 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: Today we are going to talk about an operator, uh 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: in a way, a small time operator, in a way, 10 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: a big time operator, depending on how you look at it. 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: It's an operating system for a portable set of portable 12 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: devices from Apple called Io S five. You may have 13 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: heard of it. I know some of you have, because 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: you've written in to ask us to talk about it 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: a lot. Yes, yes, so I O S five. The 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: the as of the recording of this podcast, latest generation 17 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: of Apple's mobile operating system for devices such as the iPhone, 18 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: the iPod Touch, and the iPad. Mm hm m m 19 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: uh yeah. There there are a lot of a lot 20 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: of changes in this operating system. Um. We'll probably have 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: to do one on the the latest generation of Android 22 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: operating systems coming up for ice Cream sandwich before you 23 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: write in and say ice creams and it's I know, 24 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: you know, we record this sort of right before lunch, 25 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, and then in not like an hour and 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: a half before lunchtime, and didn't have breakfast either. So 27 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: so talking about iOS five doesn't make me hungry, but 28 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: we might have to do something about ice cream sandwich 29 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: comes up to bring some in. Um that's what tech 30 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: News today does. They bring in ice cream sandwiches when 31 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: they talk about it. I know because I was a 32 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: guest on the show and I skyped in and they 33 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: did not mail me an ice cream sandwich. You know, 34 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: it should be like one of the like the Captain 35 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: Kangaroo where you know, where you can't do that on TV, 36 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: where they just dropped stuff from the ceiling. I would 37 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: cream sandwich. I would have I would have loved that. 38 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: But let's get to the actual iOS five and what 39 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: the updates are to the system. And now, you know, 40 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: we don't tend to talk about operating systems that much 41 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: on this show, although we've we've done a few. We 42 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: did Windows eight, we didn't Mac os ten Lion, we 43 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: did Windows seven, and we did snow Leopard before that. Yeah, 44 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: and we've also talked about and we talked about Linux before. 45 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: I guess we do talk about operating systems a lot. 46 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: It just seems a lot. It seems weird to talk 47 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: about the updates, right, But you know, this is a 48 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: big deal because the uh, you know, when when the 49 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: iPhone four S was announced, UM, the initial reaction to 50 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: the iPhone for S from what I saw online. Now, 51 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: granted this is a a just a sliver of the 52 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: population of iPhone users was one of is that all? 53 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: But I think the iOS five was in some ways 54 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: even more important than the iPhone for S. And there 55 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: are some elements the iPhone for S that are pretty 56 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: darn cool that that tie into iOS five, and it's 57 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: you can only find it on the iPhone for S 58 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, that there's some there's some 59 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: tie in there. UM. Keeping in mind that up until then, 60 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: we we actually heard about iOS five at the Worldwide 61 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: Developer Conference earlier in two thousand eleven, in June. Yeah, 62 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: that's around yeah, And basically that's Apple's big Developer UM 63 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: conference where they talk to people who are writing software 64 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: for UM generally both the operating system for these mobile 65 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: devices and the Macintosh computer itself and sometimes for other 66 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: devices like Apple TV. Yeah yeah, um, and you know, 67 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: for for people who are not really following that uh, 68 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: that world, it can be kind of dry. I think 69 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: the same thing could probably be said for uh, for 70 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: the Windows developer conferences in Google io. Um, you know, 71 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: this is not really a general This is not generally 72 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: where you expect to hear this kind news. People. Occasionally 73 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: you'll have crazies like like myself or Chris log in 74 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: and try and find a live blog and follow line 75 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: by line as announcements are made. Because we actually find 76 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: the stuff really fascinating. Yeah. Well, I mean eventually it 77 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: will become fascinating for the consumer who's really into tech, 78 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: but you know, finding out about application programming interfaces APIs 79 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: and things like. Yeah, I mean, it will eventually become 80 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: relevant to the average person, but not necessarily. But um, 81 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: they announced quite a bit about iOS five at that point. 82 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: That's when we learned a lot about it. In the meantime, 83 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: we heard a lot from the tech media about because frankly, 84 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: listeners sort of asked us to speculate on the new 85 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: iPhone five and as it turned out, there wasn't one. Um, 86 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: but we did find out a lot about about iOS 87 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: five and a lot of the features, some of which 88 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: had been out on other operating systems such as Google's 89 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: Android UM and others which are sort of innovative. Now, 90 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: one of the ones we've actually developed dedicated an entire 91 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: podcast too, because uh iicloud ties into iOS five as 92 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: well as UH mac OS ten lion as well as 93 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: other elements. But we've already done a full episode on 94 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: i Cloud, so I don't think we really need to 95 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: touch on i Cloud that much other than to say 96 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: it's a cloud storage solution that allows you to put 97 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: files into the cloud and access them across all your 98 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: various Apple devices. Yeah, now it's not it's not for everyone, 99 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: I should point out, UM and the iOS five is 100 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: not for everyone. As a matter of fact. If you're 101 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: running a Macintosh UM and you're you want to use 102 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: i cloud, uh, you have to be using the new 103 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: the newest version macOS ten point seven, which is which 104 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: is lion UM. But you can use on anything that 105 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: will run iOS five. You can do that, which is 106 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: the last few iPhones UM, the last couple iOS or 107 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the iPod Touch and both versions of the 108 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: iPad UM and you can. You can actually see that 109 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: as soon as you update your device to iOS five. 110 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: My iPod Touch is a first generation so it is 111 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: not eligible. But I did update my iPad software to 112 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: iOS five, and the first thing that happens right after 113 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: you updated is it starts to ask you questions about 114 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: setting up the device. UM. You know, it wants to 115 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: know what your Apple I D is and whether or 116 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: not you want to sink to I Cloud. Um it 117 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: will continue to uh if you do agree to do that. Uh, 118 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: it will sink your address book, your calendars, UM, and 119 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: a lot of of other information to I Cloud so 120 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: that um it can sink across Say I did have 121 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: an iPod Touch or an iPhone UM, and I had 122 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: updated my Mac to iOS lion UM or I'm sorry 123 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: OS ten lion, I would be able to sink all 124 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: that information without having to worry about, you know, plugging 125 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: stuff in and and sinking a device to device. It 126 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: would sink at all from I Cloud. Yeah. And actually, uh, 127 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: we can touch on this just very briefly. There there's 128 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: been some criticisms about iOS five and I Cloud and uh, 129 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: and I thought I'd just go and and pipe up 130 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: on one of them. Since we're talking about the subject already. 131 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: I heard that apparently when you take photos and it 132 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: uploads to I Cloud, there's no way to delete them. 133 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: Oh so if you were to take a photo using 134 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: your iPod Touch, let's say, okay, so you've got an iPod. 135 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: iPod touches have cameras, right ones. Okay, so you can 136 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: tell that I have an iPod Classic people, so I 137 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: am well behind, although I've got lots of music on it. 138 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: So you take a photo of your iPod Touch and 139 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: it's got the eye cloud feature in there, and it's 140 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: not you're on WiFi, and it uploads to your eye Cloud. 141 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: Now that photo is visible to all the other devices 142 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: that are on that So let's say that you're sharing 143 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: devices with oh, I don't know, um, your your spouse, 144 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: Um that could you know? You could end up having 145 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: some problems there if you're taking photos of like you 146 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: think this one one thing that you're seeing is really funny, 147 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: and you want to send a photo to your best buddy, 148 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: but your your your spouse might not find it as 149 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: amusing as you do. Well, if you take the photo 150 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: and it goes to the eye Cloud and you can't 151 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: delete it, your spouse has access to that too. So 152 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm being really delicate while I'm walking around this. I'm 153 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: just saying that if there are a lot of people 154 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: using the same sort of eye cloud, like like a 155 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: family or whatever, there could be potential problems. I'm sure 156 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: that that will be addressed if it hasn't been addressed already. 157 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: But it's a problem that I was alerted to. But 158 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: let's talk about some of them. The features of iOS five. 159 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: I want to talk about this notification center. It sounds 160 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: really interesting to me. So this notification center actually has 161 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: a little thing of notifications when when new technology, new 162 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: information is coming into your your iPhone. And I mean, 163 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: this is something that's really really phenomenal. I mean I've 164 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: only had this since two thousand seven on my Android phone. 165 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: I do smell snark. Um yeah, yeah, well, and it's 166 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: one of the things that I like on my Android phone. Um. Now, 167 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: on iOS five, if you have a device capable of 168 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: doing that, you can pull down from the top of 169 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: the screen. And when I say pull down, uh, you know, 170 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: we're talking about putting your finger at the very edge 171 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: of the screen where the menu bar is swiping down 172 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: and you can actually see the notifications and it looks 173 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: a little different. I'm showing Jonathan on my iPad. Now, 174 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: it looks a little different. They have the the gray 175 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: linen background behind it. Um, but it works very much 176 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: like the Android operating systems exact same feature. Well, you 177 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: could kind of expect that at this point, you know, 178 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: they all kind of know you could have kind of 179 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: expected it back in two thousand seven or two thousand eight, 180 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: but Apple just implemented. That's what I'm saying is they 181 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: they all kind of pick each other's good features and 182 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: will add them to subsequent releases. What it reminds me 183 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: of really is and you know, and I'm picking on 184 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: Apple a little bit about this, about being so late 185 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: to the game and implementing something like this in their 186 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: operating system. I'm picking on them. I mean, I'm glad 187 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: that they've done it because it is a useful feature, 188 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: and I'm glad that iPhone users and iPad users and 189 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: ipont touch users were be able to to take advantage 190 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: of it. That's the feature a lot. Yeah. Uh, the 191 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: reason why I'm picking on them is it's reminding me 192 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: a lot of how Apple was really slow to implement 193 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: copy and paste like or multitasking or multitasking, and these 194 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: are very basic features that you see in other smartphones, 195 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: and you wonder, like the people who are Apple fans 196 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: will say, I love Apple's products, I just don't understand 197 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: why they have not done something similar to this other 198 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: operating system that's been doing this for years, and you 199 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 1: would think that would be a fairly simple solution. Now, 200 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: we don't know everything that's going on behind the scene. 201 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: Are the motivations behind implementing versus not implementing certain features 202 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: there may be and in fact, I wager there are 203 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: very good reasons for the rollout being the way it 204 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: has been. But still from a from an outside perspective, 205 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: it just seems a little a little ludicrous. So I 206 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: couldn't help but poke just a touch of fun at 207 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: Apple for that. Well, a lot of the Android UH 208 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: fans like to poke fun at Apple for for doing that. Um. 209 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: That being said, Apple's got a lot of features that 210 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: Android does not support. Yeah, so I'm fully aware of 211 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: that Apple fans, So you know, UM, I've also heard 212 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: a lot of hooting about some of the bugs. There 213 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: have been some problems installing iOS five. Excuse me, Um, 214 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: I would I would actually add that I had trouble 215 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: installing iOS five at first. That just me a couple 216 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: of tries before I actually got it to work. I 217 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: think there may have been some some attempts to sync 218 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: with Apple servers and I tried to install it in 219 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: the first a and I think that may have been 220 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: part of it. So it might have been a bandwidth 221 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: this year. It might have just been that a lot 222 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: of people are flooding Apple with requests to to up 223 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: update the iOS. Is that what you're saying, But that 224 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: that seems fair with bugs and and concerns like this, 225 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: I feel that's kind of unfair anyway. It's a day 226 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: zero thing that's gonna happen with any major roll out. Yeah, 227 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: any operating system, and especially an operating system as popular 228 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: as iOS five, as as iOS I should say, any 229 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: operating system as popular as iOS that seems to be 230 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: magnified because you've got so many people trying to hit 231 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: it at once, that little problems that for for a 232 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: quote unquote regular operating system would you know, be noticed 233 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: by a few people, But because the adoption rate wouldn't 234 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: be so fast, it wouldn't be concentrated on day zero 235 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: so much. Uh, the company would have an opportunity to 236 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: patch problems on a regular basis, and so the average 237 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: consumer might not ever be aware that there were problems 238 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: because you know, there wasn't a rush to try and 239 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: adopt the operating system as soon as it became available Apple. 240 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 1: Apple's a rock star company. There are people who were 241 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: staying awake until the wee hours of the morning the 242 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: first few hours of October twelve eleven, which is when 243 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: iOS five became available, uh, just so that they could 244 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: try and get the operating system as fast as possible. 245 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: So I've heard about people like I know some guys 246 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: in Texas who are up till almost three am trying 247 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: to get it. So well, Frankly, you know, I have 248 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: an Android based smartphone and I would like to have 249 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: Gingerbread on it. I still have fro you, but I 250 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: am waiting for my phone carrier to push that to me. 251 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: I can't go get it. If I could go get it, 252 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: I would have already had it well. And and before 253 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: anyone writes in, yes, we know that if you could 254 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: take it to the store and have them force it, 255 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: or you could root your phone get a rom But 256 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: you know, Chris and I we both like our phones 257 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: to work. We're funny that way. Well, and that's the 258 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: thing is, I don't mind tinkering with it, but not 259 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: to the point where I break it and then I 260 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: have to go, well, I wanted it to work, which 261 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: I mean, the nice thing is that it's really hard 262 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: to truly break it, although you can. UM. But anyway, 263 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: let's get back to iOS five and talk some more. 264 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: You were talking about, you know, did you have any 265 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: other problems once you got through? Was the Was the 266 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: installation process smooth for you? Um? Basically, the first step 267 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: in doing this, uh, if you are running iOS four, UM, 268 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: you plug it into your computer and use iTunes to 269 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: upgrade the system software. And it says, lay, I see 270 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: there's an update available. Would you like to do this now? UM? 271 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: You say yeah, sure, And it takes a while for 272 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: it to download from from Apple servers. And then what 273 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: it tries to do is it's going to offer to 274 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: sink your your device UM with the computer first to 275 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: make sure that you don't lose anything that's gonna come 276 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: up again too. UM. And uh, once it goes to 277 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: that process, UM, it attempts to write the software onto there. 278 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: And I actually got stuck a couple of times um 279 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: to the point where it said there's a there's an error. 280 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: I cannot actually uh install this software on here at 281 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: this time. Um, you know, give it a give it 282 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: a shot. And it actually said that it was having 283 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: trouble sinking uh once or twice two. Um. It was 284 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: one of those things where I think, uh, it may 285 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: have been a bandwidth thing. Um. It also may have 286 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: been a watched pot sort of thing, because I actually 287 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: told it to go ahead and try it again, and 288 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: then I went off to do something else, going well, 289 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully it'll do it this time, and I 290 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: came back and it was almost done. Um. Once it 291 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: actually does install the software, then it reinstalls most, if 292 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: not all, of your your stuff. I didn't have any 293 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: problems with it, uh uh installing everything that I had 294 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: on there. But I understand that there are people who 295 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: have had apps missing and music missing. Yeah. Tom Merritt 296 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: of tech News Today and this Weekend tech Um But 297 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: was on his show. He mentioned that when he was 298 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: updating to iOS five, about half of his apps were missing. 299 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: When the installation was complete and he was able to 300 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: you know, get the apps again, but he had to 301 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: redownload them to his phone so uh, and he had 302 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: to do it I guess manually, because it just it 303 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: didn't do it automatically. And all of his playlists were missing. 304 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: So he had created playlists on and they were missing 305 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: not just from his phone but from iTunes, like they 306 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: were going, yeah the song, the music was still there, 307 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: it just wasn't arranged in the playlists. So yeah, so 308 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: he had that those issues, and we've heard of other 309 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: issues as well through the installation process. But again, this 310 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: is a day zero thing, and you know, those kind 311 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: of problems can can occur. Uh, it's just that you know, 312 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: normally we wouldn't hear so much about it if it 313 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: weren't for the fact that everyone's obsessed with getting it. Uh. 314 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about some of the other 315 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: features that iOS five has. I mean, I made fun 316 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: of notifications just because I wanted to get that out 317 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: of the way. But the notifications do look a lot 318 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: nicer than they used to, and you have a lot 319 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: more control over them there. If you go into um 320 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: your devices uh system settings, UM, you can actually control 321 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: how your notifications show up UM, which is nice. Again 322 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: that's sort of a behind the scenes type of thing. UM, 323 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: but you know, you can you could sort the notifications 324 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: um by time or or manually if you prefer um. 325 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: And uh, I mean, there are a lot of other 326 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: things that are are sort of behind the scenes to 327 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: like the Twitter um the Twitter integration. And this is 328 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: not very exciting if you are already a Twitter usier, 329 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: you already have Twitter on your iPhone or your iPad 330 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: or your iPod. But um, we're talking about a p 331 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: I S again. This is going to enable people. The 332 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: integration is going to enable people to build apps that 333 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: will allow you to tweet directly from those apps. Like 334 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: the the integration is much more fluid now than it 335 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: will as before. Well, it's kind of like if you 336 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: take a photo, now there's a one you're one touch 337 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: away from sharing that photo on Twitter instead of having 338 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: to you know, maybe go through a couple of commands. 339 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: It's it's really streamlined that which seems kind of it 340 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: may seem trivial, but it does make a big difference 341 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: when you're actually using these and uh as I can 342 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: attest because I've I've had that where you know, I 343 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: had to go through and upload a photo from my 344 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,719 Speaker 1: phone to Twitter, and then eventually I had Twitter integration 345 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: where I could I could take a photo and then 346 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: choose at that moment to upgrade upload it to Twitter, 347 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: and it makes a huge difference. Um. Also, I always 348 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: five supports I Message across devices besides just the iPhone. Yes, 349 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: you can have I Message on the iPod Touch and 350 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: the iPad. So now and that's my message of course. 351 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: Is Apple's instant Messaging service, Yeah, I know it only 352 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: works with those eye devices, Um, but it's sort of 353 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: People have likened it to the BlackBerry Messenger service, where 354 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: people who have Blackberries can message people with other Blackberries. Um. 355 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: I would say that people who complain about Apple's closed 356 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: offness are probably going to complain about this feature too. Um. 357 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: But it does give you the opportunity to send text 358 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: messages to other people who are using those devices, even 359 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: if they're on a different network. Um, you know, without 360 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: without a penalty. So uh, I say you have three 361 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: friends and all of you have iPhones. Um, you don't 362 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: have to pay for text messaging in addition to your 363 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: data plan. If you just want to send text messages 364 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: to those three or four friends, as long as they're 365 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: on an eye device, they can. You could you could 366 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: share those messages without having to worry about that. Um. 367 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: There's also the Reminder's feature, which is sort of a 368 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: built in to do list. Um. I've got a couple 369 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: to do programs on there. One of the two do 370 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 1: is a personal bug bear for me. I have trouble 371 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: getting myself to write stuff down in a particular place. 372 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: So I've tried several different ask managers trying to get 373 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: me to develop a pattern and then make a habit 374 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: out of writing stuff down. Um. The Reminder's feature is 375 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: pretty pretty nice built in to do list that I 376 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: haven't really tried yet. As as we're speaking, iOS five 377 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: has only been out for actually less than forty eight hours, UM, 378 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: so I still haven't really gotten to see whether that 379 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: one's a lot better. It seems to be kind of 380 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: a low end. Uh. You know, it's not. It doesn't 381 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: have a lot of bells and whistles, um, but it is. 382 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: It is built into the operating system now. iOS five 383 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: also supports some new functionality with the cameras involved in 384 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: various uh Apple products that run on iOS. Yes, so 385 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: now you can do things like with the iPhone, you 386 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: can uh you can activate the camera from the lock screen. Yeah, 387 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: which is nice. Although I imagine that also means we 388 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: will ultimately end up with a lot more photos of 389 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: the inside of people's pockets. Um, it is possible. One 390 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: nice thing about this is you might say, what's the 391 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: big deal. Uh, you could hand your phone to a 392 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: friend and they don't have to know your pass code 393 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: to take a photo. Hey wait, wait, wait wait, I'm 394 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: gonna jump up here and and take a photo of 395 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: his statue, you know. And you could just take the 396 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: photo and uh, if somebody else gets hold of your phone, 397 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: they might be able to take a photo, but they 398 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: can't look at all the other photos on the phone. 399 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: It's also nice and that if you are in a 400 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,719 Speaker 1: situation where something is um, there's a cool photo opportunity 401 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: that's not gonna last very long. It removes some of 402 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 1: the time that it would take you to unlock your 403 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: phone and go to the camera app and and started up. 404 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: But it also has other features they're going to have, 405 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, use gridlines that you can align photos properly, 406 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: because you know, if you're a photographer, you know there's 407 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: certain tricks like you can align a photo to make 408 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: it more attractive as opposed to the way I take 409 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: photos where the subject of the photo is always dead 410 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: center in the middle of the picture. And there's nothing 411 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: interesting going on. Ever, because I am not a photographer, 412 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: and that is abundantly clear, or when you look at 413 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: the photos I've taken, well, they've they've also incorporated the 414 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: ability to use some of the other buttons. The volume 415 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: up button now becomes the the shutter release, so you 416 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: can use that rather than having to tap the screen. Um. 417 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: And uh, you know you can you can pinch to 418 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: zoom or pinch to shrink as you prefer. Um on 419 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: the screen. Yeah, because you move your fingers out. It's 420 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: a reverse pinch to zoom. It doesn't pinch to zoom 421 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. I just my brain's breaking right now. 422 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: It just mean if it were pinched to zoom to 423 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: be opposite what you would I need a break? You 424 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: can um. You can also do red eye removal, do 425 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: some some basic photo editing like that, and crop and rotation, um, 426 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: and organized photos into albums. Um. Again these are these 427 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,959 Speaker 1: are not uh, this is not necessarily exciting, but it's 428 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: nice functionality to add. Yeah, stuff that you know it 429 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: may it's the stuff that just makes the features that 430 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: much more uh easy to use and and really you know, 431 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: it may not be something that's evident necessarily to a 432 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: new iPhone owner or iPod touch owner iPad owner, but 433 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: it's those those little things that just make those features 434 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: much more useful. Um. There's also did you are you 435 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: aware of the PC free feature? Yes? Yes, And I 436 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: tried to go get a PC free and they said 437 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: I had to pay for it. Yeah. It doesn't mean 438 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: that you clearly did not read the description. You just 439 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: thought that you were going to get a free computer, 440 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: Sad Trombone. No. PC free is a feature where you 441 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: don't have to have a computer to use an iPad, iPhone, 442 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: iPod touch because you know, traditionally you would sink that 443 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: device to a computer, but this is a feature that 444 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: removes that that step. You can also sink your device wirelessly. Now, um, 445 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: if you are sinking to a computer, Uh, the only 446 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: trick is it's got to be plugged in. So once 447 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: you uh you know, get your your charger and plug 448 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: it into the wall. Um, then it should be able 449 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: to sink wirelessly with a hub. So you have a 450 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: computer that you are specifically using as your your eye hub, Um, 451 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: then it will will do that. You no longer have 452 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: to plug it directly in to make that work, which 453 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: is a feature. There was a neat feature that I 454 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: was telling Chris about that I had learned about just 455 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: this morning, because not all the features are the ones 456 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: that are being touted on Apple's page for iPhone iOS five, 457 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: but one of them, which I thought was pretty interesting, 458 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: was to create a custom vibration for particular contacts. So 459 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: in other words, you know, most phones just have a 460 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: standard vibration setting so that they're going to vibrate in 461 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: a particular pattern whenever notification comes in. But with iOS 462 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: five you can actually this is particularly for iPhones, um, 463 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: because I don't think anything else vibrates. But you've got 464 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: an iPhone and you want to set up a specific notification, 465 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: you can go into your contacts and you can choose 466 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: a context. So let's say that I want to set 467 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: up a contact where whenever Chris calls me, um, it's 468 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: my phone's going to vibrate in a particular pattern. I 469 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: can go in to my settings on contacts and create 470 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: a new vibration and it creates a screen where I 471 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: can just tap on the screen and the rhythm of 472 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: the taps becomes the pattern of vibrations. So you know 473 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: I might do shaven a haircut, and then I know 474 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: it's Chris calling me automatically. I don't have to even 475 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: look at my phone. I just feel d D D 476 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 1: d D. I'm like, oh, that's Chris. I'll just let 477 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: I go to voicemail. So the that's the cool thing 478 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: is like I was like, wow, that's I never would 479 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: have thought of that, you know, that never, And it's 480 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: probably a feature that very few people are necessarily going 481 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: to use, but it's one of those when I heard 482 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: about it was like, Okay, that's kind of cool in 483 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: a dorky way. Yeah. Yeah. Well another kind of cool 484 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: uh feature is the location based Reminders UM, because you 485 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: can tell the device to uh, say, remember to feed 486 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: the cat when you get home, and it will when 487 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: you get home send you a reminder at that time, 488 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: rather than just sending it at you know, five o'clock, 489 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: because you know, what if you get there, what if 490 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: what if you're stuck in traffic and so you don't 491 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: get home until five thirty five o'clock, you get the notice, 492 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm when I get home, I need to 493 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: feed the cat. And then you get there at five 494 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: thirty and you've forgotten about it until your cat wakes 495 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: up sniffing your uh, your ear, like, oh, that smells good, 496 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: I can eat that since he's not gonna feed me. 497 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: You wake up and your spouse is gone and your 498 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: cat is purring, and you're thinking, oh, there's a spouse 499 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:36,479 Speaker 1: shaped uh cat spot spot in the cat's belly. Huh, 500 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: that was mistake. Look at that to do list one 501 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: more time. So yeah, I mean, that's that's a nice feature. Um. 502 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: And then again, it's not glamorous when I would consider 503 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: a glamorous feature, but it's it's nice. Let's let's talk 504 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: about a feature that is pretty darn awesome because we're 505 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: racking up some minutes here, so let's let's talk about Sirie. Okay, 506 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: I was I was gonna mention newsstand, which is another 507 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: sort of less than exciting one. Now all right, let's 508 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: let's let's uh let's be a series not available on 509 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: all devices. That's it for last. Okay, news stand. Uh. 510 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: If you'll remember back a couple of years ago now 511 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: or a year and a half ago now, and one 512 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: of the things that the the iPad was supposed to 513 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: help with was uh single handedly saving the magazine industry, um, 514 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: which may or may not have happened, depending on who 515 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: you talk to. Mostly not UM. However, a lot of 516 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: magazines have embraced the iPad, and I've now that I've 517 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: got a couple electronic magazines on it, I could say 518 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: it is pretty useful for that. UM. The thing is 519 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: a lot of publishers have individual apps for their magazines UM. 520 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: So you know you might have one for Wired and 521 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: one for Esquire, and you have all these different magazine 522 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 1: applications UM, each with its own subscription and all these things. Well, 523 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: new Stand is designed to sort of look like eyebooks. 524 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: It's got a faux wooden shelf UM environment, and basically 525 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: new news Stand is supposed to display all of these 526 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: Now again, this is an ap I that the developers 527 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: for these apps can embrace and say, okay, well, as 528 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: soon as a new issue comes up, we will display 529 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: it in newsstands. So Newstand will launch the appropriate application 530 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: UM for an individual magazine, and it will it will 531 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: display the cover of the most recent UM issue of 532 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: all those magazines and bring them all into one place, 533 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: which I imagine will encourage more publishers to embrace the iPad, 534 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: which is I'm sure what Apple is trying to do, 535 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: but it is useful. Now. Um, one of the applications 536 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: that I use from for e magazines still hasn't embraced 537 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: the the API yet. So the most recent issue I 538 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: have in that one is not showing up. But I 539 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: do see wired in there um, which is which is 540 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: pretty neat. And I think once more people begin to 541 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: use that or embrace that API, it will be more 542 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: useful tool. Now can we talk about Siria? Okay, go 543 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: ahead and talk about series. Siri is pretty freaking awesome. Um, 544 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: Siri is really an uh you know, I I used 545 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: an Android phone, as we have mentioned several times in 546 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: this podcast. Chris, you have one as well. Yeah, and 547 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: and and people again, the Android people were saying voice recognition. 548 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: Well I've had that, Yeah, but it's more than't just 549 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: voice recognition. Mine doesn't work like this. Yeah, voice recognition 550 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: is awesome. I mean I can do things like call people, 551 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: I can navigate to places, I can search the web, 552 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: I can do voice to text messages. I can do 553 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: all those sort of things. But it generally requires me 554 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: to open up an application that already has that that 555 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: technology incorporated into it. So it's you know, using Google's 556 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: voice recognition software. In whatever the application is, most of 557 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: them happened to be made by Google, not a big surprise. 558 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: Siri is a little different. SII is voice recognition, but 559 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: it also has a natural language recognition element to it. 560 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: Natural language recognition is tough. It's very difficult, especially when 561 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: you're talking about people with accents. Yeah, well accents or 562 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: are they use idiomatic speech or whatever? You know, it's 563 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: it can be tricky trying to figure out the way. 564 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: You know, a machine can have problems figuring out what 565 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: a human wants just based upon natural speech. SIRIE is this, um, 566 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: this this technology that will listen to you and then 567 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: take whatever it is you said and come up with 568 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: a solution based on what it thinks you want. So 569 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: you might say something like, uh. You might you might 570 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: hold down the home button, which is the way you 571 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: activate SIRIE on an iPhone Forest it's the only device 572 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: right now as of the recording of this podcast. Uh. 573 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: And you might say, Siri, UM, I'm hungry, Are there 574 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: any good seafood restaurants nearby? And it might pull up 575 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: a map and show you the location of seafood restaurants 576 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: in relation to your location. Or you could say things 577 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: like Siri, do I need a jacket today? And it's 578 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: going to look and see what the weather report is 579 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: and come back and tell you whether or not you're 580 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: gonna need a jacket. Um. And it's kind of neat. 581 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: And it does this for all sorts of different applications. 582 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: So you you might ask it a question and it 583 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: will bring back the relevant information or it will initiate 584 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: a search based upon that topic. So you might say 585 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: something like, uh, Sirie, how many kilometers are in twenty 586 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: seven miles and it'll pull that information directly from uh 587 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: from Wolf from Alpha. Yeah, so you'll get that information there. Uh. 588 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: And it's this is pretty neat stuff. You know. You 589 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: might think on the surface of it, well that that 590 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: sounds interesting, but how useful is it? It's actually incredibly useful. 591 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: I mean. And and depending on how robust this device is, 592 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: this technology is uh, it could be truly revolutionary. Um 593 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: and Uh. And my favorite thing is that apparently the 594 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: people who incorporated Siri into the iPhone for ESTs have 595 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: a real sense of humor. Yes, very much like speaking 596 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: of Wolf from Alpha, there are easter eggs in the 597 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: theory and people have been, um have been investigating that 598 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: for the past few days. I would encourage you, if 599 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: you haven't already, uh, to look up some of these 600 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: UM series. By the way I spelled s I R 601 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: I if you're looking for that, UM and uh there 602 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: are I know that somebody has asked it to open 603 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: the pod bay doors, and there are several different answers 604 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: to that, including I'm sorry, but I can't do that 605 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: right now. Also, it uses your name. Yeah, yeah, since 606 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: you're just a little creepy, yes, since you read. Since 607 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: the device is registered to a person, Siri will respond 608 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: to requests with that person's name. UM. But here are 609 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: some other uh queries and responses. What are you wearing 610 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: aluminous silicate glass and stainless steel? Nice? Huh. There's a 611 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: do you know how nine thousand? Everyone knows what happened 612 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: to how I'd rather not talk about it. Um, there's 613 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: a there's of course, what's the meaning of life? And 614 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: one of the answers that it will give is forty 615 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: um and uh there's another one that's uh uh knock knock. 616 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: Have you seen that one? Knock knock? And this is 617 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: a series response knock knock? Who's there? Joshua? Joshua? Who Joshua, 618 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: I don't do not not jokes. Uh there's uh, there's 619 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 1: another one where if you ask what's the meaning of life? 620 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: Since I don't know, but I think there's an app 621 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: for that, there's another ones. I can't answer that now, 622 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: but give me some time to write a very long 623 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: play in which nothing happens. But as an English major, 624 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: that was my favorite. Um there's a let's see if 625 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: I can find the one. Will you marry me? My 626 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: end user licensing agreement does not cover marriage? My apologies. 627 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: Uh so Yeah, the people who who designed this created 628 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: some really fun ones. How much would would a wood 629 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: Chuck chuck? If a Woodchuck uld Chuck would? It depends 630 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: on whether you are talking about African or European Woodchuck's 631 00:33:54,160 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: money Python reference there's yeah, it's um. The the personality 632 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: that they have sort of given Siri is kind of fun. 633 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: It's almost a little GLaDOS from Bordle. In fact, I 634 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,959 Speaker 1: really hope there's some way for you to get Siri 635 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: to say the cake is a lie uh or initiated 636 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: series suddenly starts singing uh still alive. That would be awesome. 637 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, I love that. Not only is it 638 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: a useful feature, and it has some really cool implications 639 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: for everything from voice recognition to artificial intelligence to a 640 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: semantic web. I mean, these are all ideas that are 641 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: are tied up with the serie application, but it also 642 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: has a sense of humor. It's fantastic. Well, it's it's uh, 643 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 1: it's obvious that as time wears on, the mobile operating 644 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: systems are becoming much more functional, and they're turning the 645 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: smartphone and another portable devices into tools that are are 646 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,280 Speaker 1: just that much more useful for uh, for different people. 647 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: I definitely want to get into ice cream Sandwich in 648 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: an upcoming podcast because especially because it's it's going to 649 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 1: be useful for both the smartphone and the tablet running 650 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 1: the operating system, the Android operating system. So because people 651 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: were very um outspoken about Google splendoring off Androids so 652 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: that you had a tablet version and a smartphone version. Yeah, 653 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean, and Androids had a lot of a lot 654 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: of criticisms directed its way about fragmentation because there's so 655 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: many devices on the market and many of them are 656 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: running various versions of Android and are incapable of running 657 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: later versions, or the carriers just haven't pushed out the 658 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: later version to the devices, and so you've got all 659 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: these different versions of Android out there. Um, so when 660 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: if you're developing applications for the Android platform, you have 661 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: to you have to make decisions like well, how far 662 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: down the Android path do I allow support or do 663 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: I just aim for the top tier? And UH iOS 664 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: is a little easier. And that's not to say that 665 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: there aren't people out there who have older devices that 666 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: can't run iOS five. That's I mean people do, Chris does. 667 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: But but it tends to be that with the Apple fans, 668 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: they tend to upgrade more frequently I think than other 669 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: device owners. Usually, I Android is a little different. It's 670 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 1: it's hard to be an Android owner in a way 671 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: because three months after you get your phone, there may 672 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: be a new Android phone from a different carrier or 673 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: even the same one that is has more features. Right. 674 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: But with Apple it's a little more predictable. It's usually 675 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: every twelve eighteen months, right right. Plus, UM, you know 676 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: each individual carrier is different to UM. Some carriers will 677 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: pushing an Android update more quickly than others, if at all. UM, 678 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: and you have with the Android operating systems like UM, 679 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: you know I have an HDC based phone, So I 680 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: have HTC Sense as uh you know these they the 681 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 1: overlay on my phone and not everyone else does. So 682 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: my flavor of Android is different from other people's flavor 683 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: of Android. And I think that's also sort of part 684 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: of what's behind these glitches too, is you know, once 685 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: you've taken a device and personalized it, um, you know, 686 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: it makes it more difficult for the people releasing the 687 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: operating system to know that it's going to work with 688 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: that particular cocktail of applications and configurations, which is why 689 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: it's a little more predictable for Apple products, and it 690 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: is for uh when machines running Windows or you know, Android, 691 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: because there are more variations in those. Um. Anyway, Well, 692 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: I think this was a good you know discussion about 693 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 1: iOS five. Will definitely keep our eyes on further updates 694 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: because uh, you know it's five point one, will be 695 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: will fix some of these problems and may introduce more 696 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: of their own. I mean it's pretty common. 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