WEBVTT - Kylee Russell Is Back

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Joe and I'm Serena.

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<v Speaker 1>And we are here with Kylie Russell from last season

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<v Speaker 1>A Bachelor in Paradise and from Kylie, who is your

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<v Speaker 1>bachelor Zach?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's in twenty seven. I'm a Bacheler. What's Zach.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nice to let's see you guys again and be

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<v Speaker 3>back Bachelor Nation.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so funny because we had Tyler Cameron a few

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<v Speaker 4>weeks ago and we're like, oh, like, you've never been

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<v Speaker 4>on the podcast, so crazy, and then this week I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, I think Kylie's been on like three times,

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<v Speaker 4>like she's like a regular here.

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<v Speaker 3>This is my third time and I love this space.

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<v Speaker 3>I always feel so welcomed and very energetic platforms beyond,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm excited to be back.

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<v Speaker 2>We love having y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>When I hear your name, I think of one thing

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<v Speaker 1>and you said it up. You said it on our podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what I This is how I associate you. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what they are on Happy Hour?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you said it on Clickbait already. It's if

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<v Speaker 1>you do. It's something that you do that I.

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<v Speaker 3>Drink Mountain do And yes, I really got off that

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<v Speaker 3>podcast and I was like, why did you just word vomit?

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<v Speaker 3>Like are you good? Because although I do that, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want the world to know. But I live in

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<v Speaker 3>California now and I feel like I have to be

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<v Speaker 3>like a healthy queen. I guess. So we've done out

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<v Speaker 3>back on that and do and we only drink that

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<v Speaker 3>ever so often.

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<v Speaker 4>Really instead of waking up and having a coffee, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>wake up and have a glass.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep a Mountain Dew at her nightstand and wake up.

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<v Speaker 4>The first thing, you know what though, So that is

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<v Speaker 4>crazy Kylie like it is. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 4>there's people that are like crazy, crazy diet coke drinkers,

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<v Speaker 4>and I feel like it's kind of similar. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>Anna Redmond is like obsessed with mountain dew. Also, I

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<v Speaker 4>think they like sent her a bunch of I don't

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<v Speaker 4>feel so wone now there's a community of you guys

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<v Speaker 4>out there drinking Mountaindale.

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<v Speaker 3>Less embarrassed now. But yeah, like I said, I've tried

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of put my health at my forefront and

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<v Speaker 3>be a little bit better. But I think I will

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<v Speaker 3>if mountain dew is what kills me, at least I'll

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<v Speaker 3>die happy. I guess you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know what everyone has like their thing, you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>Joe loves Pinkberry and.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, okay, I actually don't. I'm actually I'm over Pinkberry.

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<v Speaker 5>Is no longer ordering Pinkberry every night after But if

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<v Speaker 5>I were, if I were to do a pop, if

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<v Speaker 5>I were to drink a pop, my go to is

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<v Speaker 5>a coke.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love a good king. It's a toss up

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<v Speaker 3>Coke Coker Mountain dew for me. But mon deu is there?

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<v Speaker 3>My heart lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you drink coffee?

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<v Speaker 3>No? And I'm a nurse, so I work long, twelve

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<v Speaker 3>hour shifts and not being a coffee drinker will be

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<v Speaker 3>the death of me, just because I'm so physically tired

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<v Speaker 3>all the time. And it would be so nice to

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<v Speaker 3>have like that espresso boost. But it's just my tastebuds

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<v Speaker 3>are really picky. I'm twenty six, and I have the

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<v Speaker 3>tastebuds of like like a six year old child. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm hoping one day I'll wake up and they'll be

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<v Speaker 3>like evolved, but unfortunately does not yet happen, So no

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<v Speaker 3>coffee for me. I want to like Starbucks. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to walk in with like my cute scrubs and my latte.

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<v Speaker 3>But it just will never be me unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all right, that's so funny to me. I like,

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<v Speaker 2>so you're like a chicken fingers and fries girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, absolutely, yeah, I think too. That's why when you

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<v Speaker 3>were traveling for Zach season at the Bachelor, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the things put being on TV and like the emotions

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<v Speaker 3>of like falling in love aside, Like, one of my

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<v Speaker 3>biggest struggles was finding things on the menu in the

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<v Speaker 3>different countries that I liked. It was a struggle and

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<v Speaker 3>probably a red flag. But if they don't have chicken

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<v Speaker 3>fingers and fries, like I don't want it.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the most adventurous food you've you've dabbled in?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I my junior year of college, I went

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<v Speaker 3>to Spain for two weeks and Spanish food is very interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought. So in the South, we love a good

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<v Speaker 3>hush puppy, and for whatever reason, I thought I was

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<v Speaker 3>eating a hush puppy in Spain. It definitely wasn't a hushpuppiy.

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<v Speaker 3>It was. I'd bit into it. It looked just like

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<v Speaker 3>one and cuet. Yeah, probably, and it was not. I

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<v Speaker 3>was very surprised that it was not what I was expecting,

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<v Speaker 3>so I think that I think the Spanish food in

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<v Speaker 3>Spain really was out there for me. I ended up

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<v Speaker 3>finding an American diner in like the pit of Barcelona,

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<v Speaker 3>and I ate there like every other day, just because

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be so cultured, like I really do.

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<v Speaker 3>But my taste bluds just hate me basically.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know what, like, if you're trying things, that's

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<v Speaker 4>all you can do. You know what I mean exactly,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't like them, you don't like them. I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like it's just out of your control, like what foods

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<v Speaker 4>taste good to and what don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Serene, thank you for having me b And

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<v Speaker 3>it's like you said, it's not like lack of effort.

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<v Speaker 3>I always put my best friend forward. It's just my

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<v Speaker 3>body rejects me. So they know I'm always advocate.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I used to be judgmental of picky eaters,

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<v Speaker 4>but then I'm like, when you think about it, it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're not willing to try different foods, like that

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<v Speaker 4>is an issue. I think I think you should always

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<v Speaker 4>be open to, like trying different cultures foods, but if

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<v Speaker 4>you're trying them and they don't taste good to you,

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<v Speaker 4>Like you can't do anything about that, like if you

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<v Speaker 4>don't like them. Oh, I'm just a girl, yeah, like

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<v Speaker 4>the just who wants chicken fingers.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a friend that I was just in Forida

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<v Speaker 1>with and he he will only eat like a cheeseburger

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<v Speaker 1>well done with catchup and like cheetos and like that's

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<v Speaker 1>all he'll eat. But we have to pivot.

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<v Speaker 4>So you you're from Charlotte, yes, and you are living

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<v Speaker 4>wear in California.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you're in San Diego right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm one of the basic Bachelor nations and that

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<v Speaker 3>moved to California, San Diego specifically after being on a season.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm actually in my apartment with I love with Jess

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<v Speaker 3>Gerard from my season of Paradise a ZAC season. She's

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<v Speaker 3>in the room beside me. She's a work from homegirly.

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<v Speaker 3>So my god, Hi Jack, Yeah, hey Jess, if you

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<v Speaker 3>can hear us. But yeah, no, I have loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been here. I moved here in mid February, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's almost been two months, which is insane how fast

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<v Speaker 3>time it's grown. It's taken some adjustment because it's so

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<v Speaker 3>much different than the East Coast. But I really do

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<v Speaker 3>love it.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think it is that pulls so many

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<v Speaker 4>people from Bachelor Nation to go live in San Diego?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, was it on your radar before?

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<v Speaker 4>Was it just like all of your friends were moving there,

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<v Speaker 4>you thought it would be fine? Like it's the whole

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<v Speaker 4>San Diego Bachelor Nation thing is so interesting to me

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<v Speaker 4>because there's literally so many of them there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So I honestly, for myself, if you would have

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<v Speaker 3>told me prior to going on The Bachelor that I

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<v Speaker 3>would ever move out of Charlotte, I would be like,

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<v Speaker 3>you're insane. There's no way. I went to college there.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved ten minutes from my parents after being out

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<v Speaker 3>of my parents' house, Like, Charlotte was my home, it

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<v Speaker 3>was my community, and I loved it there. And so

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<v Speaker 3>I think The Bachelor and especially Paradise provided so much

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<v Speaker 3>growth for me and allowed me to really become independent.

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<v Speaker 3>And then so that kind of sparked my interest of

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<v Speaker 3>wanting to get out of Charlotte and explore and experience

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<v Speaker 3>new cities. And then everyone for my season, I know,

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<v Speaker 3>Kat lives here now, Genevieve Mayo and then Anastasia and

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<v Speaker 3>they kind of just picked up and came here and

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<v Speaker 3>so Jess and I were like, why not us? So

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was just it was never specifically San Diego.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, it was I want to experience a new city,

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<v Speaker 3>and all my friends just so happened to go to

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<v Speaker 3>San Diego. So that's why I chose it.

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<v Speaker 4>That makes sense because it's like it's an easy adventure,

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<v Speaker 4>but it also feels safe probably to be like, I

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<v Speaker 4>want to try something new, but I don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>be like isolated and alone.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know that you're going to have kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a beautiful too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean it's not a hard place to live

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<v Speaker 3>at all. And exactly like you're saying, Serene, I did

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<v Speaker 3>become very independent on the Bachelor, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>power to the people who can pick up a move

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<v Speaker 3>and know no one. But unfortunately that's just not something

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<v Speaker 3>I probably would ever be comfortable with. So it's that

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<v Speaker 3>comfort blanket of having my friends here while exploring a

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful inner city. You guys should come and visit.

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<v Speaker 2>I've actually never been to San Diego.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you've been twice, Yeah, twice.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I would love to go.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just like we live in New York and it's

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<v Speaker 4>like a bit of a mission to get out there.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's far. It's like a six hour flight from

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<v Speaker 3>North Carolina, so I feel like it may be a

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<v Speaker 3>little further for good. I'm very geographically challenged, so I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not exactly sure. But New York was actually on the list.

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<v Speaker 3>I know Davia and we are both live in New York,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I was like pulled in either that action

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<v Speaker 3>or San Diego. But I hate the cold, and unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>you guys' winters are brutal, so I'm going to stay

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<v Speaker 3>over here where I can go to the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, So what is what is a regular weekend for

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<v Speaker 1>you guys? Are you all getting together all the time?

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<v Speaker 1>What's that looking like?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? So I think because we have the comfort of

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<v Speaker 3>each other, we find ourselves migrating to one another. We

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<v Speaker 3>like to experience any new restaurants. We like to go

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<v Speaker 3>to the local bars. There's two separate kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>fields of San Diego. You have Pacific Beach, which is

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<v Speaker 3>like your beachy bars, kind of gives like a college vibe.

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<v Speaker 3>And I swear Jessica is obsessed with peb like she'd

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<v Speaker 3>probably be buried there as she could, so she often

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<v Speaker 3>drags us to PB or there's like the little Italy area.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say it's like similar to New York vibes,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like your older men women kind of just

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<v Speaker 3>like by very low key and subtle. So I guess

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<v Speaker 3>it just depends on how we wake up that Saturday

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<v Speaker 3>and what we're feeling. But if it's up to Jess,

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<v Speaker 3>peb is where it will be.

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<v Speaker 4>Where it is at And then during the week, what

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<v Speaker 4>is your life like?

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<v Speaker 2>You were an urn right, yes, in Charlotte?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I was. Yeah, I was honestly really weird because

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<v Speaker 3>I had been talking about moving since like September of

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<v Speaker 3>last year, and I worked in postpartum, so right after

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<v Speaker 3>a mom and baby delivers and labor delivery, they come

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<v Speaker 3>to my unit and I take care of them for

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<v Speaker 3>the next couple of days. And it's a very specialized field,

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<v Speaker 3>and once you're there, no one really wants to leave

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<v Speaker 3>because it's an amazing place to work. Long story short,

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<v Speaker 3>I could not find a gig anywhere in San Diego.

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<v Speaker 3>It was almost impossible, and so I'd kind of just

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<v Speaker 3>given up. I was going to work at a med

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<v Speaker 3>spa here already like accepted the offer, was ready to go.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the day I moved out, I found a position.

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<v Speaker 3>Day I moved out of Charlotte, I found a postpartum

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<v Speaker 3>position at a hospital here, and I like interviewed on

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<v Speaker 3>a whim. Literally within an hour later, I had an

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<v Speaker 3>offer letter, and then two hours later I was on

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<v Speaker 3>a plane to San Diego. So it was like everything

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<v Speaker 3>had just fallen into place. I was so like genuinely

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<v Speaker 3>excited about my work and when I was coming to so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a post part of Meiers here in San Diego.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>It mustage just felt like truly the stars were aligning

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<v Speaker 4>for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally, because I think I was obviously excited about moving,

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<v Speaker 3>but my job was kind of holding back that excitement

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<v Speaker 3>because it just it wasn't where I felt like I

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<v Speaker 3>was drawn to. And so that aligning literally was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm supposed to be going here. I'm supposed to be here,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's going to be a good experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice. What what are you? What are your what are

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<v Speaker 1>your shifts? Like? What shifts do you work?

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<v Speaker 3>I am a unicorn and I was able to get

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<v Speaker 3>not only a new job, but I was able to

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<v Speaker 3>get day shifts. So I work I go in about

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<v Speaker 3>and that's really rare, especially if you're starting out on

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<v Speaker 3>a new unit. You're typically always nights and then you

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<v Speaker 3>have to work through what your way up to days.

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<v Speaker 3>So I get into the hospital around like six forty

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<v Speaker 3>five in the morning and then I don't ever really

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<v Speaker 3>leave until about seven forty five at night. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>so long day once I'm there. But I only typically

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<v Speaker 3>work three to four days a week, so I have

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<v Speaker 3>some days of rest like today in between, so it

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<v Speaker 3>makes it, it makes it worth it nice.

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<v Speaker 1>That's uh, yeah, that's not bad. Then I never know

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<v Speaker 1>because like sometimes I hear like you'all hear like nurses

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<v Speaker 1>that work around the clock every day and then you

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<v Speaker 1>have like there's all different hours, so I was curious

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<v Speaker 1>about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I empowered to them. I can agree that I was

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<v Speaker 3>off of work for like two and a half months

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<v Speaker 3>and so my body was used to just being lazy,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I go into my first whole hour shifts

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<v Speaker 3>being back, and I felt like I had just died

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<v Speaker 3>and got back to life. So I'm slowly but surely adjusted.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's very hard on your body, but a really

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<v Speaker 3>rewarding job.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I feel like that's such a special unit to

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<v Speaker 4>work in because you're kind of seeing people hopefully and

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<v Speaker 4>like their happiest time with their news.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, but also like stressful because it's like if.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not getting any sleep, the babies wanting to feed

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<v Speaker 3>all night, the babies crying. No, it's literally so rewarding.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like there's a lot of education that comes

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<v Speaker 3>into my job of just like helping especially a new

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<v Speaker 3>mom transition into motherhood. I will say, like ninety eight

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<v Speaker 3>percent of the time, like you said, it's one of

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<v Speaker 3>the happiest moments of their life. I do occasionally get

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<v Speaker 3>some baby daddy drama that's always kind of interesting to see.

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<v Speaker 3>But yes, yes, I like sometimes I like, am I

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<v Speaker 3>working on Jerry Springer? Or like, am I in the

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<v Speaker 3>hospital right now? But putting that aside, it's very refreshing

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<v Speaker 3>and something I love to do.

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<v Speaker 4>I could totally see you in that role. If I

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<v Speaker 4>ever have a baby, I'll be like, Kylie, what do

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<v Speaker 4>I do?

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<v Speaker 3>I'll fly out to New York and I'll do all

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<v Speaker 3>of the most part tricks I got you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you all right? So I want to get into

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<v Speaker 1>your dating life, but before we do, let me kind

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<v Speaker 1>of summarize for everyone what went down, Yes, with your

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<v Speaker 1>season of Paradise. So essentially, you're on Paradise, you and

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<v Speaker 1>Avon leave kind of like you wishy washy, but like

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of in a you're you're somewhat of a couple.

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<v Speaker 1>Then after the show airs, you guys post that you're

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<v Speaker 1>together in San Diego, and then like twenty four hours later,

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<v Speaker 1>you post a story or you might have posted in

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<v Speaker 1>and feed that he cheated on you, and you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are broken up. And that's kind of the last of

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<v Speaker 1>what I know, and I think most of the viewers know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you went and did file files, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you talked a little more on that, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to catch us up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that time period of my life was a whirlwind.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like you said, I left with Avon on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>It didn't really look like we were happy. We just

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<v Speaker 3>had some we had indifferences about kind of our ending

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<v Speaker 3>when it came to the show, but we still decided

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<v Speaker 3>to leave with each other as like boyfriend girlfriend. We

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was like a six month time period

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<v Speaker 3>in between filming and the very end of the show.

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<v Speaker 3>We were a strong couple, as strong as we could be.

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<v Speaker 3>Because we were doing long distance. I had not yet

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<v Speaker 3>moved to San Diego. I was still in Charlotte, he

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<v Speaker 3>was here, and then we would make it a point

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<v Speaker 3>to try to see each other at least once per month,

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<v Speaker 3>and we did a really good job with that. And

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<v Speaker 3>then unfortunately I did find out that news, and it

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<v Speaker 3>kind of felt like everything was just like stripped away

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<v Speaker 3>from me and I was having to start from scratch.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't I'm not really seasoned when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>being in relationships. Aside from Avan, I only had one

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<v Speaker 3>other boyfriend and that was six years ago. So obviously

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<v Speaker 3>I've talked to guys, I've dated around, but never really

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<v Speaker 3>been serious with anyone other than those two men, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I've never been cheated on before. This was the

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<v Speaker 3>first time. So having that happened to you was already

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<v Speaker 3>like a gut punch, but then having to deal with

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<v Speaker 3>it on such a public platform that was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>can't even put into words how devastating that was. And

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<v Speaker 3>then I felt like I had to answer to so

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<v Speaker 3>many people because in one breath I was posting that

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<v Speaker 3>you were together, and then we were happy, and everyone

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<v Speaker 3>was texting me congratulations, and then all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 3>I find this out and I'm like feeling I have

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<v Speaker 3>to lie to people saying thank you, and we're not

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<v Speaker 3>together anymore. So long story short, I am in a

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<v Speaker 3>place where I've completely moved past the emotions of finding

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<v Speaker 3>something like that out. I'm trying to be I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like it was a sense, to be very honest with you,

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like I had the human emotion of

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<v Speaker 3>like feeling insecure about myself there for a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm like, well, if he chose to do this

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<v Speaker 3>to me, then there's obviously I'm not enough or there's

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<v Speaker 3>obviously something wrong with me, and I know that's not

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<v Speaker 3>the case whatsoever, But it was just that human emotion

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<v Speaker 3>of like, Okay, is there something I need to do better.

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<v Speaker 3>I have now since grown from that and realized that

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<v Speaker 3>that's not necessarily the case. It was just a character

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<v Speaker 3>flaw on his end. But it's really just putting the

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<v Speaker 3>pieces back together just because I did. We were in

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<v Speaker 3>such a strong place where at the end of it

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<v Speaker 3>that I thought that he was my future, in my

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<v Speaker 3>forever and being having that stripped away from me completely,

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<v Speaker 3>so suddenly I was like, Okay, I got to start over,

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<v Speaker 3>and I will say, I'm not gonna lie moving to

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<v Speaker 3>San Diego. He was a big part of that prior

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<v Speaker 3>to all of this happening. So I had to decide

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<v Speaker 3>one if I was going to continue to move, if

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to ever even be willing to speak

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<v Speaker 3>to him again, Like there were so many different things.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was like my life was a whirlwind in

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<v Speaker 3>December and January, and then I decided to move here

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<v Speaker 3>solely for myself. I wanted to prove to myself that

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<v Speaker 3>I am independent, that I can finally cut the umbilical

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<v Speaker 3>cord from my family and I can do big things

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<v Speaker 3>without them, And then I wanted to experience this with

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<v Speaker 3>my friends. I think right now, speaking on dating, I

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<v Speaker 3>am not in a position to be dating anyone. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that circumstance really just like took everything out of

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<v Speaker 3>me and I can't find it in me right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it will eventually come to give myself like

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<v Speaker 3>that to someone else again, So I think it's just

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<v Speaker 3>all about time and allowing myself to fully heal before

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<v Speaker 3>I jump back into something.

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<v Speaker 4>What was that feeling like then moving to San Diego? Obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>like you have your girls there, you have friends, but

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<v Speaker 4>like he lives there right right, So you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>now moving to the city where my ex I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know exactly like how you're referring to him label wise

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<v Speaker 4>at that time, but like my ex is living there,

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<v Speaker 4>and like, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>You have mutual friends in the city.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, was there anxiety had you talked to him like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm coming into town, we might run into each other?

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<v Speaker 4>Like what was that dynamic like, and how are you

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<v Speaker 4>feeling about it?

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<v Speaker 3>So I was definitely very anxious. I would be lying

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<v Speaker 3>if I said that, even and I still were in

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<v Speaker 3>somewhat of communication, so he knew that I was moving.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he was very anxious too, just because obviously

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<v Speaker 3>he was in a like a place, in a space

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<v Speaker 3>where he wanted to get back together, but he wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to give me time to heal as well. As he's

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<v Speaker 3>been very mature in all of this. He's wanting to

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<v Speaker 3>heal and become a better person himself before he even

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<v Speaker 3>jumps back into anything, So he wanted I think we

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<v Speaker 3>were both scared because we wanted to allow each other

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<v Speaker 3>their space to grow separately before because you know, you're

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<v Speaker 3>in a new city, that comfortability of having someone that

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<v Speaker 3>you were once so close to can easily draw you

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<v Speaker 3>to them, but it wasn't. We didn't want it to

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<v Speaker 3>be a situation where we just like, because it was comfortable,

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<v Speaker 3>we just jumped back in. And that wasn't even something

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<v Speaker 3>that I was considering at the point, but knew it

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<v Speaker 3>could be a possibility because it would have been easy.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think I was definitely very anxious, but we

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<v Speaker 3>had grown conversations where we were like, we just need

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<v Speaker 3>to take this time apart and give each other space.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I should, a normal human should, but I

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<v Speaker 3>don't harbor any like resentment towards Avan. I was very

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<v Speaker 3>angry with him, especially with what he had done, but

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<v Speaker 3>I just try. I know I can't continue to grow

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<v Speaker 3>and I can't move forward if I don't find it,

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<v Speaker 3>and need to hopefully one day fully forgive him because

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<v Speaker 3>it's just not allowing me to fully, fully move past

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<v Speaker 3>that and fully be a better version of myself. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's its not It's probably been one of the hardest

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<v Speaker 3>things I've ever had to navigate in my life, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just trying to do it grace as gracefully as

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<v Speaker 3>I can and as responsible as I can, and just

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<v Speaker 3>truly look out for myself because at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the day, I think I need to put myself above

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<v Speaker 3>everything when it comes to that situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you say, you know, it's not a normal

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<v Speaker 4>way to handle it, but I really don't think there's

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<v Speaker 4>any normal way to handle infidelity. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I've been exposed to people in my life experiencing that

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<v Speaker 4>in relationships, and like everyone handles it differently, Every situation

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<v Speaker 4>is different, so you know, don't be too hard on yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. It's been really it has. It has taken

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<v Speaker 3>a toll, especially in my mental health. But I've been

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<v Speaker 3>going to therapy. We love therapy, and just really trying

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<v Speaker 3>to move forward and build a life for myself separately

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<v Speaker 3>out here. I want my own identity out here, I

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<v Speaker 3>want my own friends, and I don't want to fall

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<v Speaker 3>into that negative space.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think there's anything wrong with forgiving him,

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<v Speaker 1>especially because I think that's that's better on your own

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<v Speaker 1>mental health when you do forgive someone an opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>at least for speaking for myself opposed to holding a grudge,

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like that negativity will just like linger

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<v Speaker 1>with inside you, and that's I feel like that's not good. Yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>as of as of today, do you still speak to Even?

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<v Speaker 3>I knew you guys were going to get into the

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<v Speaker 3>integrity of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you said.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's okay, It's okay, So I will say Even

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<v Speaker 3>and I are really good friends at this point. I

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<v Speaker 3>have just been trying to navigate because I've only been

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<v Speaker 3>here in like two months. I recently started my new

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<v Speaker 3>job two weeks ago, so I've been trying to navigate.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you being here working and like I said, building

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<v Speaker 3>a life for myself out here separately. So we're very

0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:17.200
<v Speaker 3>good friends. We still catch up. I'm still kind of

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<v Speaker 3>encouraging him on his journey of healing, just as I did.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know he kind of brought it upon himself.

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<v Speaker 3>He did receive a lot of hate in regards to this,

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<v Speaker 3>and that took a big toll on his mental health.

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<v Speaker 3>So just kind of healing from that. But like I said,

0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:38.959
<v Speaker 3>I'm not in a space right now to fully comment

0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:42.840
<v Speaker 3>myself in a relationship with anyone, even included, So I

0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:46.879
<v Speaker 3>think we're both just working on ourselves before we decide

0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:49.480
<v Speaker 3>how we would move forward, if that would even be

0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:53.360
<v Speaker 3>a thing, or how we would grow in our separate ways.

0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:55.720
<v Speaker 4>Have you guys seen each other in person, I feel

0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:57.360
<v Speaker 4>like it would be impossible to avoid each other.

0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:01.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we have seen each other in person. The

0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 3>first interaction I kind of like took my like it

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:07.560
<v Speaker 3>was it was a shock, just because I hadn't seen

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:14.879
<v Speaker 3>him in so long prior to everything happening. Everything is

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:17.960
<v Speaker 3>very cordial, if I think that's the best word to

0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:22.880
<v Speaker 3>put it. It's such a tricky space to navigate because

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:29.439
<v Speaker 3>I know my worth, I know what I deserve, and

0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:33.639
<v Speaker 3>so I'm trying not to sacrifice any of that for anyone.

0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:38.320
<v Speaker 3>So if there was ever even like a possibility or

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:41.119
<v Speaker 3>a chance for us to get back together, he would

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:44.159
<v Speaker 3>have to completely work on himself and I would have

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:46.359
<v Speaker 3>to know in my heart of hearts like he is

0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 3>a changed person. So I just yeah, yeah, it's just

0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:54.639
<v Speaker 3>a lot. It's a lot to process, and I think

0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:58.000
<v Speaker 3>I talked about this on next podcast, But for me,

0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 3>it was really hard because I I don't think I'd

0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:05.160
<v Speaker 3>ever truly loved anyone prior to even so I had

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 3>given so much in myself and invested so much in

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:10.920
<v Speaker 3>our relationship that's very hard just to like walk away

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 3>from immediately in the drop of the hat. So I've

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:17.919
<v Speaker 3>just been really trying to give myself grace but realize

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 3>who I am, what I deserve, and kind of just

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:22.400
<v Speaker 3>hold that to the upmost standard.

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So what I'm hearing is the door is still

0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:31.640
<v Speaker 4>open if the conditions were right and the work had

0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:32.720
<v Speaker 4>been done.

0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:37.240
<v Speaker 3>Had been done. Yes, And I don't know how long

0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:39.919
<v Speaker 3>that will take. We could both be in a place

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:43.679
<v Speaker 3>where we've moved on, we've moved forward before that could happen.

0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 3>But I guess what I'm trying to say is my

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 3>main focus right now is not dating. My main focus

0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 3>is Kylie and building my career. I'm starting nurse practitioners

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 3>school in August. I just moved to a big city. Like,

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:01.120
<v Speaker 3>there's so many exciting things happening for me that I'm

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:03.240
<v Speaker 3>not trying to dwell or put my energy into a

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 3>relationship right now.

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:09.720
<v Speaker 1>You I know you're saying you're not you're not ready

0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:13.160
<v Speaker 1>to fully date. But if let's say you went out

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:15.119
<v Speaker 1>with your girlfriends and you're at a bar and you

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 1>meet a guy and you're like really into him, are

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 1>you willing to go on?

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Are you willing to go on a date and see

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 1>where things go?

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't think it would be responsible for

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:30.320
<v Speaker 3>me to do so right now, just because it wouldn't

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 3>be It wouldn't be fair to the other person because

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 3>I in that moment, you know, like lust and desire,

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 3>I could potentially feel ready, but I know in my heart,

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 3>like one, oh, part of it still belongs to my

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:46.400
<v Speaker 3>relationship with Aban, and I'm trying to recover and heal

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 3>from that and like move on from that because I

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 3>know it's already April. But like I said, I was

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:53.720
<v Speaker 3>so blindsided by all of this.

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there's no timeline.

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:58.879
<v Speaker 3>There's no timeline, and trust me, it would be so easy.

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:00.680
<v Speaker 3>My life would be so much better if I could

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 3>have just woken up the next day after I found

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 3>out now about it and was like, if him, screw him,

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 3>I never want to see him again because then I

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 3>could just like wipe my hands clean and moved on.

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:13.639
<v Speaker 3>But unfortunately that just hasn't been my healing journey. So

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:17.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it would be fair to the other

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 3>person if I put myself off there right now. Could

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 3>that change next week? Absolutely, But I just I just

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:27.920
<v Speaker 3>need the time and space to grow, and I'm typically old.

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:30.360
<v Speaker 3>Kylie would be like, oh, absolutely, because it could kind

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 3>of just feel fill avoid at that point. But I'm

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 3>really trying to be mature and grow, so I think

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 3>for myself right now, what's best for me. I just

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:40.639
<v Speaker 3>need to focus on me.

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:51.439
<v Speaker 4>If Paradise was a thing and you were in a

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:52.360
<v Speaker 4>place where you.

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Felt ready to date, would you go back?

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:59.440
<v Speaker 3>So I think when it comes to Paradise, I would

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 3>have to the door between Ave and I would have

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 3>to be closed. And then again, I don't know if

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 3>America wants to see me crying every other day of

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 3>the week again, So you would probably have to ask

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 3>America if they're not that avoid with see me, then maybe,

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 3>But honestly, I don't know. I loved Paradise so much,

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 3>Like when Jesse came down the stairs and told us

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:26.160
<v Speaker 3>that it was over, like I wanted to cry because

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 3>I was so upset, Like no, I'm like Kinnesas forever.

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:34.639
<v Speaker 3>But the aftermath of Paradise really took a toll on me,

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 3>not just in regards to like the ave and stuff,

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 3>but I did receive a lot of hate. So I

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 3>just don't know if I would want to put myself

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 3>back out there again. But if America would promise to

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 3>be kind, I don't know. It would just have to

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 3>be the right time. I don't know.

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 2>That's hard, that's fair saying.

0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to sound like a hypocrite, like absolutely no,

0:28:57.360 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 3>but I don't know.

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 4>But it's okay to say, like based on what I

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 4>went through, Like if they were like no right now,

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 4>it's okay, Like we will hold you to it.

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 2>If in a year they asked you and you decide

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 2>to go, we won't hold you to that.

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Okay, okay, thanks three.

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 1>So you're really not ready to date, go on another

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>dating show, or do anything until the door is fully

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 1>closed with AVA or fully open and the door is

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>not the door is not fully closed.

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't think it would be fair for me

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 3>to put myself out there in that way if the

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 3>door was somewhat open with anyone. So, yeah, to be

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 3>respectful to all parties.

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you're right, I'm going to ask you one more question.

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Then we're going to play a game.

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Thanks not to not not at all to excuse even

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 1>of his actions, because I think he was in the wrong.

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 1>But do you think if the circumstances were different as

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 1>far as you met in real life, you didn't meet

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 1>on a dating show and you lived in the same city.

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you think do you think he would have cheated that?

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 2>WHOA a crazy question, ask your Joe.

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm just well, because we talked about this, so

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 3>I can kind of give you an insight of how

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 3>we navigated that conversation.

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Because I figured that. I figured that because I think

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>that is an excuse that most people make that cheat

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>that go on a dating show, because the excuse is

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 1>it's not I'm different in a real relationship, like they

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 1>use it as as an excuse. Okay, And I'm just

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 1>curus I'm.

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Curious if he used the distance in the show as

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 2>an excuse.

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I want to know what. Yeah, Well, her.

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Thoughts, So we actually did. This was one of the

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 3>we had like a big debrief at one point and

0:30:57.440 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 3>he kind of just kind of came to me with

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm not using any of this as an excuse quote unquote.

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm just kind of telling you each time that it happened,

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 3>this is where my head's face was at, and so

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 3>there's no excuse for any of it. The like I

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 3>talked about in the bile Flous the first original time

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 3>in July, when it happened when I received the pictures.

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 3>I was a little bit like, Okay, we had just

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 3>got back from the show. If we wouldn't have been

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 3>on the show, we probably wouldn't even be dating at

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 3>this point, probably still just talking, so like, maybe we

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 3>can work through that. But then when I found out

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:38.480
<v Speaker 3>about the Boston situation, I'm like, Okay, there's no excuse

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 3>for that. Like I can't ever get past this. He

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 3>did say in July, whenever he got home, a lot

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 3>of his friends were kind of like asking him about

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 3>our relationship, asking him about the seriousness of it, and

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:56.479
<v Speaker 3>he was very excited, and they just kept planting in

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 3>his ear, well, you know, it is a paradise, just

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 3>a paradiselationship. I do you think it's actually going to last.

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 3>So his excuse in a sense of doing what he

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 3>did in July was because he thought that it wasn't

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:15.360
<v Speaker 3>actually like a lasting relationship. Which I was very taken

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 3>aback by that, because in my eyes, especially even though

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 3>it was early, I never once questioned, oh, we just

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 3>did that for TV. I think him and I went

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:31.959
<v Speaker 3>to Paradise for very different reasons. I think he of

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 3>course wanted to go and like hopefully find someone, but

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 3>he didn't really hold much weight to that. For myself,

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 3>I didn't care about gaining an extra Instagram follower or

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 3>getting paid like, I didn't care about any of that.

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Like I wanted to find a man. I wanted to

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 3>leave happy, and that's all that was important to me.

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was very evident watching you on the show.

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, clearly. Yeah, And so I think in the beginning,

0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 3>for sure, if we would have met in a conventional way,

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:02.520
<v Speaker 3>I would have been in San Diego, we wouldn't had

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 3>the pressure of distance. Then I would hope he wouldn't.

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 3>But then again, this is going to sound crazy too.

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 3>I think in order for Avan to become a changed man,

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to speak on him, but in order

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 3>for him to truly become the man that he deserves

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 3>to be for someone, if that's not me, I think

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 3>this needed to happen. I think unfortunately it happened to me,

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 3>but I think he needed to wake up call that

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 3>he did have some character flaws he does need to change,

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 3>And unfortunately it happened on this magnitude, But he had

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 3>the whole world looking at him, and that is what

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 3>has forced him to become a completely different person. So

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't know I would hope that if we met

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 3>in a conventional way, he wouldn't have done so, and

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 3>it sucks that he did it to me, but I

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 3>think for him and his personal growth journey, I think

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 3>it needed to happen.

0:33:57.080 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Cool, I like that. But then it makes you

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 1>answered my question, Well, I think that makes sense.

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Is it? I don't know, it's so long?

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 1>No, No, I think I think it does. I I'm

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 1>also curious too, because I know, like the door is

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>still open. So yeah, to me, I'm like, well, if

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the door is still open, you're considering potentially getting back

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 1>with him, But I know you wouldn't get back with

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 1>him if you think that he would cheat again. So

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>that's why I'm more curious to think, like, maybe if

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:32.360
<v Speaker 1>if you did live in the same city, state and

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 1>now it's it's not a relationship off the show, it's

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 1>just different.

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:41.320
<v Speaker 4>Is that a concern in your mind that is maybe

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:45.359
<v Speaker 4>holding you back from revisiting that relationship that he may

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:45.839
<v Speaker 4>do it again.

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 3>I would say so, I I he has changed. I've

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 3>seen just so much growth in him in a couple

0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 3>of months that he's been working on himself. So gun

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.279
<v Speaker 3>to my head right now, I don't think he would

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 3>ever do that again, but it's any Like, I feel

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 3>like it would be abnormal for as a human to

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:15.399
<v Speaker 3>not have that small insecurity in the back of my brain, like, Okay, well,

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:17.359
<v Speaker 3>if he's going out with his friends without me, like

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:19.799
<v Speaker 3>what is he doing? Because that one time he did that,

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:24.800
<v Speaker 3>obviously it led to a different thing. He he would

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 3>give me all of the reassurance in the world right now,

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 3>and he's working to do that. But it's still just

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 3>that human flaw of like thinking, okay, that insecurity of like, okay,

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 3>but what is he doing tonight? I haven't heard from him,

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:40.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, So it's really hard. I just have to like,

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 3>if I were to want to jump back into something

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:47.319
<v Speaker 3>like that, I would. It would only be healthy for

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 3>our relationship to fully one hundred percent trust him. I

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 3>can't continue to harbor or bring back what he did

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 3>in the past enable in order for us to move forward.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's another thing. In order for us to get

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<v Speaker 3>back to that place, I need to trust him and

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<v Speaker 3>not have that insecurity anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one hundred percent. I agree.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, wishing you the best on that journey. Whether the

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<v Speaker 4>door opens back up or closes.

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<v Speaker 2>I just hope that you end up happy.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate you. I know, I just wanna. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to be you. Guys. I'm ready just to be settled

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<v Speaker 3>down and just living my best life with my partner,

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<v Speaker 3>so hoping that one day I can get there.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, in the meantime, enjoy the bars with Jess and

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<v Speaker 6>dining in TV.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, have fun in Phoebe. Let's play a little game.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do rapid fire get to know me with Kylie Russell.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're gonna ask you some questions and just the

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<v Speaker 4>first answer that comes to your mind. Okay, perfect, Okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 4>So dream vacation spot. Goodbye, Go to self care mask

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<v Speaker 4>favorite song or artist.

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<v Speaker 3>Justin Bieber.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we may have asked you that last time.

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<v Speaker 3>He last time, and I will die say no time.

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<v Speaker 6>Go to drink at a bar, m tequila, pineapples. Favorite

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<v Speaker 6>food or cuisine anything Italian and Mountain Deal and chicken

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<v Speaker 6>fingers and fries.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh sorry, I know, Hi was Yeah that too?

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<v Speaker 6>Gold or silver jewelry gold for sure. Wine night in

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<v Speaker 6>or girls night out.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of a lazy girl, so definitely wine.

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<v Speaker 2>D current favorite beauty product.

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<v Speaker 3>I just got into, like the bronzing drops. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>like to wear a lot of makeup at work because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to wake up early for that. So

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<v Speaker 3>if I just put some of those on my face,

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<v Speaker 3>it looks like I have makeup and then plus my so.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I just started.

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<v Speaker 4>I I typically stray away from like skin tints just

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<v Speaker 4>because my skin so sensitive.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't really found one that like sits well with

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<v Speaker 2>my skin.

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<v Speaker 4>But the first aid beauty bronzing drops are to try.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh good, I put them like if I'm wearing like

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<v Speaker 4>stropless clothes. I'll literally put it like all over my

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<v Speaker 4>cast my shoulders. Yeah, it's really like that.

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<v Speaker 3>And you said it's first eight.

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<v Speaker 2>First aid beauty. That's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go look for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to comfort movie or show.

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<v Speaker 3>How to Lose a Guy in Today's a classic on.

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<v Speaker 2>Favorite season.

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<v Speaker 3>Summer. I'm excited for San Diego summers.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, it'll be your first time having like a

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<v Speaker 4>full year of summer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm so excited. I am. I am quite disappointed

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<v Speaker 3>in the weather. It's been very chilly thus far. I

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<v Speaker 3>always feel like I have to at least have a

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<v Speaker 3>jacket one So I'm ready for like the summer summer time.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, same girl. And then what is your favorite holiday?

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<v Speaker 3>I would say Christmas because that's when all of my

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<v Speaker 3>family gets together.

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas is the right answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Christmas is the only answer. Christmas. Well, Kylie, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for coming on bet your Happy Hour again.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really nice catching up with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate you. We got deep today, but it was

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<v Speaker 3>nice talking it all with you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Not at the beginning though. The first five talked about

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<v Speaker 1>candy and pretzels and you're talking about And thank you

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<v Speaker 1>to all our listeners for tuning in. Make sure you

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<v Speaker 2>Bye bye,