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Speaker 3: Continues from last week Yeah Rooth's Picnic Live in New York.
Speaker 2: This aired October twenty six.
Speaker 3: Imagine It, Team Supreme hold up in a hotel across
Speaker 3: the street from the venue. While everybody's performing, theyre run
Speaker 3: across the street to talk to us. Even Questlove, so
Speaker 3: make sure you pay attention to.
Speaker 1: Hear when he pops in.
Speaker 3: Featured in this episode appearances from The Jungle Brothers, Emily Wells,
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Speaker 1: Welcome to a very special edition of West Love Supreme
Speaker 1: once again. This is a road trip, well not exactly
Speaker 1: a road trip. We're kind of up the block from
Speaker 1: Bryant Park in New York City. I'll say that twenty
Speaker 1: years ago, when the Roots were first formed, we made
Speaker 1: and cut our teeth on the festival circuit, and festivals
Speaker 1: are like now a thing in America that back in
Speaker 1: the early nineties, it was like really unheard of to
Speaker 1: have different genres together under one roof, like doing a festival.
Speaker 1: We always said that we had enough pull and of
Speaker 1: course enough finances, we were going to bring a festival
Speaker 1: to whatever city that we chose to do. And of course,
Speaker 1: I guess most of you guys are familiar with the
Speaker 1: Root's Picnic. That's our Philadelphia homegrown festival event. So this
Speaker 1: year we decided to take the Roots Picnic to Bryant
Speaker 1: Park in New York City and entertained over twenty thousand
Speaker 1: people for two days.
Speaker 5: So many acts played the picnic.
Speaker 1: David Byrne, Bu tang Quin, Dangelo, John Mayer, even Alicia Keys,
Speaker 1: Dave Sappelle, Common of course the Roots were formed as well.
Speaker 1: Uh we even Adnle Rogers and She's That's a lot.
Speaker 5: Of line up. Anyway.
Speaker 1: We recorded these special episodes in Quest Love Supreme Live
Speaker 1: during the Roots Picnic. I was running around quite a
Speaker 1: bit too. I popped up in the show occasionally when
Speaker 1: I had a minute, but it was basically rehearsing. But
Speaker 1: don't worry, Uh, the team Supreme held it down and
Speaker 1: they really did an amazing job running the show with
Speaker 1: my absent.
Speaker 5: That's right. We got Fante, Boss.
Speaker 1: Bill still there, Unpaid Bills there, Sugar Steeds there, Lai
Speaker 1: is there, and a whole cast of others.
Speaker 5: And during this.
Speaker 6: Episode you will hear some great interviews with the Jungle Brothers,
Speaker 6: you and Daniel Marley, the Freeway, the team behind Participar
Speaker 6: Biscuits party An Emily Wells, and I really hope you
Speaker 6: enjoyed the show.
Speaker 1: This is part two of the Roots Picnic New York
Speaker 1: edition of Quest Love Supreme.
Speaker 5: Once one two y'all.
Speaker 7: This is Questlove Supreme only on Pandora Sponte Fontigelo holding
Speaker 7: it down for the boss Man and our coat leader,
Speaker 7: Quest Love.
Speaker 5: Who is busy working today.
Speaker 7: We're broadcasting live from the Roots Picnic in New York,
Speaker 7: in New York, New York City, the city and the state.
Speaker 7: We got, uh, we got lovely unpaid Bill Sherman, my
Speaker 7: Man Sugar, Steve, my Man Scott Yo, Yo, Boss Bill,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. We're all in here, we're
Speaker 7: having a good time.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 7: I cannot say enough how much the brothers that we
Speaker 7: are honored to have in this building today, how much
Speaker 7: of an influence that they played on my life, on
Speaker 7: my musical career. Just god, man, I don't know where
Speaker 7: to start. Straight out the jungle the album man mess
Speaker 7: my head up, done by the forces of nature, messed
Speaker 7: my head up even more. Jesus christ Man, I'm gonna
Speaker 7: just let these brothers tell their story, lads and women.
Speaker 7: One of my biggest musical influences, the forefathers of the
Speaker 7: Native Tongue movement, who just gave voice to so many
Speaker 7: of us. I'm talking about Mike G, Sammy B Baby Bam,
Speaker 7: bladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 5: Give it up the Jungle Brothers.
Speaker 7: Thousand you both and watch sound System State of the Odd.
Speaker 5: Come on, man, man, thank you.
Speaker 7: First off, let me say okay, me and Mike G.
Speaker 7: We have been planning to get together for like the
Speaker 7: past decade. Mike G lives probably like twenty minutes from me.
Speaker 7: He's we're both North Carolina residents. I'm North Carolina born
Speaker 7: and raised. He is pretty much he's been there, and
Speaker 7: we are part of the growing community of rappers in
Speaker 7: North Carolina. I think special ed, I think so Dot
Speaker 7: is so that X's and well, I know at one
Speaker 7: point he was in Greensboro.
Speaker 5: I don't know if he's still there. I don't know.
Speaker 8: I was on his tail somewhere in Raleigh. I got
Speaker 8: a good friend down there, he says, Yeah, man, I
Speaker 8: was just here, you know, as folks live down there, Raleigh,
Speaker 8: got family down there, so yeah, yeah, yeah, you know
Speaker 8: Caine is still in Durham.
Speaker 5: I believe Drma Raleigh. I believe.
Speaker 7: But but yeah, me and Mike g have been Yo. Man,
Speaker 7: let's get up, let's get dinner, let's do this, and
Speaker 7: this is the first time I think we've been in
Speaker 7: the same room. Yeah, I see him more on the
Speaker 7: road than I do actually in the city we live in.
Speaker 7: But but now, brothers, thank you'all so much for man, man,
Speaker 7: I cannot thank you enough. I guess let's just start
Speaker 7: with well, let's start kind of, let's.
Speaker 5: Go before we go back.
Speaker 7: Let's like start with one of my favorite records from y'all,
Speaker 7: which is fitting since the founder and our cut leader
Speaker 7: actually played on it, bring Uh Off the Raal Deluxe album.
Speaker 5: Tell us tell me about that record.
Speaker 7: I remember at the time when it came out, it
Speaker 7: just sounded new. It sounded like it was the Jungle
Speaker 7: Brothers that I knew in love, but it just sounded like, man,
Speaker 7: like this is a reinvention like my Boys is back,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, talk to us about that
Speaker 7: and too. It came off of the first single, uh,
Speaker 7: the How You Want It, which is just like some
Speaker 7: raw just straight loops. But then y'all came with the
Speaker 7: Brains and I was like, oh, this is like some
Speaker 7: cool shit, like wow, So let's talk about that record
Speaker 7: around the time y'all did it. Where were y'all at
Speaker 7: mentally at that thing in your career, because that was
Speaker 7: that was after the whole crazy Wisdom Masters situations.
Speaker 9: He was the masters we had.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 8: We had got back together with John Baker at G Street,
Speaker 8: who was uh real instrumental in our in the first
Speaker 8: part of our career off of Straight Out the Jungle.
Speaker 5: It's funny how that all came together, but he.
Speaker 8: Was instrumental on the UK side, on the Europe side
Speaker 8: for Jungle Brothers went Straight Out the Jungle and Uh,
Speaker 8: we got together for the Raw Deluxe album, and I
Speaker 8: want to say we were almost finished. We were probably
Speaker 8: sixteen some of our songs, but we still needed that
Speaker 8: that one, you know, really to help I guess capture
Speaker 8: the soul of the new audience that was out there
Speaker 8: and somehow the the link, the link came and got
Speaker 8: us all in the studio. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 8: quest thought they was they started early. By the time
Speaker 8: we got there, all it was, and I mean the
Speaker 8: rest is history. I mean, I think, like I said,
Speaker 8: as soon as we walked in it was. It was that,
Speaker 8: and then the chorus came on and then we just
Speaker 8: all split up, sat in the corner started.
Speaker 7: Writing, that's dope. That's dope, man. To give out our
Speaker 7: listeners a little backstory at this point in their career. Well,
Speaker 7: just and if I misspeak, please correct me. First album,
Speaker 7: Straight out the Jungle hip Hop Classic. This was nineteen
Speaker 7: eighty seven, Well Warlock Rect eight. I'm sorry, Warlock Records.
Speaker 7: I was nine years old, a long time ago. But
Speaker 7: then the second album.
Speaker 5: Wasn't born yet. That's real, man, listen.
Speaker 7: So second album done by the Force of Nature ninety
Speaker 7: one eighty nine, eight eighty nine. I remember I was
Speaker 7: it was probably fifth grade, I think, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 7: that record. So these were like two records that were,
Speaker 7: I mean really just cemented these brothers as just one
Speaker 7: of the most kind of forward thinking, forward moving groups
Speaker 7: in hip hop. After the second album, there was another
Speaker 7: record called Crazy Wisdom Masters, which was a record that
Speaker 7: was never officially released, and by all accounts, by all
Speaker 7: you know, the legend, everything, the record was incredible. I
Speaker 7: want to talk about that a little bit and talk
Speaker 7: about that record, kind of what happened to it and
Speaker 7: kind of the aftermath of that.
Speaker 8: Well, in the place of that record, the Crazy Wisdom
Speaker 8: record came JJ Remedy year that was also on Warner
Speaker 8: Brothers at the time. And you know, the time period
Speaker 8: was I think we were learning. You know, we had
Speaker 8: just we came off of touring done by the forces
Speaker 8: of nature. I mean we literally, I mean from straight
Speaker 8: out to jungle. We literally went from his graduation to
Speaker 8: touring Europe and then constantly touring. I mean we literally
Speaker 8: didn't take a break for a very long time, for
Speaker 8: a really long time.
Speaker 5: And for guys, you.
Speaker 4: Know we like.
Speaker 8: Seventeen eighteen nineteen, I mean it's like who does that?
Speaker 5: Who comes out of school? Get your passport? Travel of
Speaker 5: the world. The Berlin Wall was still up at the time.
Speaker 8: Wow, Wow, were doing crazy festivals. We're doing crazy festivals.
Speaker 8: I mean it was nuts. I mean, who does that?
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm haul and Brooklyn the Bronx. I mean
Speaker 8: at that time, the eighties, late eighties, I mean it
Speaker 8: was unheard of. You know, by the time we got
Speaker 8: back to the studio to start that third record, it
Speaker 8: was like, I mean it was it was vomit.
Speaker 5: It was like, Yo, look what we brought home.
Speaker 8: I mean, we got we got to build with the
Speaker 8: likes of Bill Liaswell, Bootsy mud Bone, George. I mean,
Speaker 8: it was just so much. We had so much that,
Speaker 8: I mean it was hard to interpret. Yeah, from the meters,
Speaker 8: I mean all the cats. I mean, I mean you're artist,
Speaker 8: I mean, where your soul comes from. I I mean
Speaker 8: I have to I have to throw this on you.
Speaker 8: When that Little Brother album came out, It's like it
Speaker 8: was a cheery moment. It was a cheery moment, you
Speaker 8: know what I'm saying, because you wouldn't think that that
Speaker 8: type of soul was in the audience, was in our
Speaker 8: you know, amongst our peers like that.
Speaker 5: Wow. But it's like we so when we came back
Speaker 5: and we we.
Speaker 8: Got to literally rub elbows and tour and do shows
Speaker 8: with the cast that we were sampling that we were
Speaker 8: sitting up in the sitting up in the Bronxe River
Speaker 8: Center listening to the Beach Jazzy and I'm going back
Speaker 8: and forth and were chilling with them in the tent,
Speaker 8: drinking bits.
Speaker 5: And all of that. And I ain't gonna put us
Speaker 5: in the studio right after that. Wow, Warner Brothers, they
Speaker 5: couldn't understand that. And that was for the Crazy the Master.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but it wasn't It wasn't originally named the Crazy
Speaker 8: was the Master. It was I don't think we even
Speaker 8: had a name to I don't think we had.
Speaker 5: Lose the originals or something like that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, it was all it was all politics
Speaker 8: in short. In short, we created a spaceship. We made
Speaker 8: a spaceship. Warner Brothers ain't know how to fly. They
Speaker 8: was like, not hold up, we just need four wheels
Speaker 8: in the steering wheel.
Speaker 9: They wanted four wheels in.
Speaker 5: The steering wheel. They did the okie doke with the mix.
Speaker 8: After we mastered it, they found, you know, they pulled
Speaker 8: what they felt was you know, relatable to the audience.
Speaker 8: They put out JB's with the Remedy and.
Speaker 7: That was the forty blow Trooper. That was yeah that way,
Speaker 7: And I liked that record. I mean it was it
Speaker 7: was funny because J the Remedy was one of those
Speaker 7: records that for me personally, had I not known the backstory,
Speaker 7: like I would have been like, Yo, this is dope.
Speaker 5: Like had I had, I I remember like reading I.
Speaker 7: Want to say it was in the source or something
Speaker 7: with you guys where y'all were, you know, telling them
Speaker 7: talking about the process and how disappointing it was and
Speaker 7: how the stuff y'all going through with the label and everything,
Speaker 7: And I just remember reading I was like, man, I
Speaker 7: had no clue, if you know. To me, it sounded
Speaker 7: like a junk Brothers record, but it was disappointing to
Speaker 7: hear that it wasn't you guys vision you know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying. But just for me, I remember for the
Speaker 7: blow truth came out.
Speaker 5: I love that record.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it was a there was I think
Speaker 8: crazy wis the masters it held, I mean it held
Speaker 8: the whole story. But I think it was just ahead
Speaker 8: of a lot of people's time. They just wasn't ready.
Speaker 8: Like I said, we built a spaceship, but they wasn't ready.
Speaker 8: They weren't even they wouldn't even put out the test
Speaker 8: for how do you drive a spaceships?
Speaker 5: We don't know. Just keep making calls.
Speaker 7: You know, that's what it was, you know, all right,
Speaker 7: so we're gonna go into that. So coming out of
Speaker 7: Crazy Wism Masters into JB's with the Remedy, this is
Speaker 7: when you left JA.
Speaker 5: It was ninety three, was it was it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 9: It was. It was probably like.
Speaker 7: Coming out of that record, you guys leave Warner Brothers,
Speaker 7: get with E Street and that brings us to the
Speaker 7: Rather Lucks album, which brings us to Brain, which was
Speaker 7: kind of like a reintroduction to you guys.
Speaker 5: What year is that? That was nineteen ninety six? Seven?
Speaker 5: It was ninety seven. It was ninety seven.
Speaker 7: Man, everything's almost tweeny years ago, yeah, because I remember
Speaker 7: that was like my twenty senior year of high school.
Speaker 3: I'll say, and y'all about to have y'all thirtieth anniversary.
Speaker 5: Yeap next year.
Speaker 7: For I mean, that's like thirty years you guys are
Speaker 7: coming up on what keeps you going?
Speaker 5: I mean, thirty is a long fucking time, oh man.
Speaker 10: Just you know, the love for the music, that's really
Speaker 10: the love for the music in the chemistry chemistry too.
Speaker 5: Question. I think we friends before music.
Speaker 11: You know, we grew up together high school, playing in
Speaker 11: the parks, going to the jams. I think that really
Speaker 11: kept us together because a lot of groups money comes
Speaker 11: in between them and all that kind of stuff. And
Speaker 11: I think at this point it really don't even matter,
Speaker 11: you know. I think that we're still friends and that
Speaker 11: makes a big difference.
Speaker 7: Yeah, do you guys feel like y'all were maybe more
Speaker 7: like better equipped to handle it now than you were
Speaker 7: when you were younger?
Speaker 5: I think so. Yeah, RelA so too.
Speaker 10: Yeah, we came along so early, you know where it
Speaker 10: was those pioneered years where you're just doing something in
Speaker 10: your circle or in your bedroom and not aware of
Speaker 10: what's out there. And we got a chance to go
Speaker 10: out there when no one saw us coming, you know,
Speaker 10: to fifty two different countries and see people experience hip
Speaker 10: hop for the first time and still be seventeen eighteen nineteen.
Speaker 10: So we had like a early jump where you know,
Speaker 10: you go from getting a radio in your room with
Speaker 10: a cassette, plugging turntables into it, baking a little makeshift
Speaker 10: studio and just doing it for yourself to actually being
Speaker 10: broadcasting on the radio on Red Alert show a mixed
Speaker 10: show that still was underground, to people taping you as
Speaker 10: far as Japan, and then you arrived there and they
Speaker 10: know who you are.
Speaker 5: But we still felt like we just stepped out of
Speaker 5: our bedrooms.
Speaker 7: Yet when you talk about like the bedrooms, you know,
Speaker 7: the Straight Out the Jungle, that was one of the
Speaker 7: albums that me and The Mirror have talked about as
Speaker 7: being in like and we mean this like in the
Speaker 7: best way. Technically it's like one of the worst mixed albums,
Speaker 7: but that's what makes.
Speaker 5: It well, there's a story behind that, Like Straight Out
Speaker 5: the Jungle.
Speaker 10: I used to first of all, that whole album was
Speaker 10: made off turntables. Wow, So that's not there's no sp twelves,
Speaker 10: there's no LINN drums, there's no NPC heads, there's no laptop.
Speaker 10: Of course, that was just straight off the turntables. So
Speaker 10: it's just straight r particularly Straight Out the Jungle. I
Speaker 10: would come home from school. I those two records were
Speaker 10: f from my dance record collection, okay, and I would backs.
Speaker 5: I only had one copy of each record.
Speaker 10: So the Bill Withers Break and I would play that
Speaker 10: on one turntable and the Mandrels on the other, and
Speaker 10: I only had eight bars. Wow, and I love the
Speaker 10: way those two went together.
Speaker 5: I would just play it over and over and over
Speaker 5: and over, not even get a chance to write to
Speaker 5: it yet, And I just.
Speaker 10: Held that in my head until we finally got into
Speaker 10: a studio situation. Cause we were in a couple of
Speaker 10: studio situations where the producers would throw when the drum
Speaker 10: machine beat at us, and we was like, nah, that's
Speaker 10: not really the sound we want. But a lot of
Speaker 10: hip hop records back then was drum machine heavy. And
Speaker 10: then we got into the studio where there was turntables,
Speaker 10: and I took that same technique of straight out the
Speaker 10: the breakbeat and then the groove.
Speaker 5: But now we have a tape machine.
Speaker 10: So on track one, you play those eight bars punching.
Speaker 10: On track two, play those eight bars of Bill Withers drums,
Speaker 10: and you keep doing that till you got five minutes.
Speaker 5: And I'm geeking off of that cause.
Speaker 10: I was like, Okay, now I got a track machine
Speaker 10: instead of a cassette, you know, or even just doing
Speaker 10: it by hand. And then on track three and four
Speaker 10: you're throwing down the mandrills for five minutes.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 10: So a lot of that stuff was just made on
Speaker 10: the fly, you know, And that was the process of
Speaker 10: the whole album, Like behind the Bush, you know.
Speaker 5: We had insane the same process.
Speaker 10: I saw Sammy's standing there with the record we used
Speaker 10: for the melody, which was a remaker of Marvin Gaye's
Speaker 10: What's going On and it was on forty five and
Speaker 10: we had to tape it to you know, a vinyl
Speaker 10: and then blend that or over the beat for five minutes,
Speaker 10: you know, and then go in the booth, and then
Speaker 10: Mike and I would be in another example of Jim Browski.
Speaker 5: Sammy Bold was.
Speaker 10: In the control room with the two turntables, Mike and
Speaker 10: I was in the booth with our rhymes already rehearsed,
Speaker 10: and he had his mic, I had my mic.
Speaker 5: Sometimes we had one mic we shared together.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna do because that sounds like yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 7: what you gotta understand the Jim Browski that was all
Speaker 7: three of us.
Speaker 10: The way we're doing on stage. We did that in
Speaker 10: the studio like a band. Like there's no you know,
Speaker 10: sampling or putting it on tape first and over. There's
Speaker 10: no overdose, there's no overdubes. It's like, Okay, we're gonna
Speaker 10: press record, take one the old fashioned way, but in
Speaker 10: the hip hop context, like we're gonna MC while he's
Speaker 10: DJing you know what I mean, and then it's like, yeah,
Speaker 10: let's listen down take two.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, do take two and that's it.
Speaker 7: So just to give the listeners some understanding of just
Speaker 7: this process when they say no over the Generally, when
Speaker 7: you go into the studio, everything is kind of pre done.
Speaker 7: So if you're recording over a beat, the beat is
Speaker 7: already done and it is recorded and laid down, and
Speaker 7: then the singers of rappers come in on another track
Speaker 7: and they do you know, they do whatever they do
Speaker 7: to that prerecorded beat, and so forth and so on. Uh,
Speaker 7: what these buds were doing was just everything was live
Speaker 7: in one take.
Speaker 10: So yeah, on stage they were doing put that. In
Speaker 10: the studio we were doing that. So at the end
Speaker 10: of that, Andre de Borg, the engineer for Salt and
Speaker 10: Pepper's records, and you know the quality of those records,
Speaker 10: he pulls up and I remember this in a in
Speaker 10: an army truck.
Speaker 5: With all his outboard geary total like gear ahead.
Speaker 10: He pulls up, he comes downstairs in the basement and
Speaker 10: he looks at the board and it goes, you made
Speaker 10: a record like this. There's wires everywhere, and he's like
Speaker 10: he said, before I even mix this record and master it,
Speaker 10: I have to take.
Speaker 5: Apart the whole studio and put it back together again. Wow,
Speaker 5: look at her face like that, what so trying to
Speaker 5: make some extra money.
Speaker 12: But basically, but basically it was about It's about a vibe,
Speaker 12: going back to what you you re quest level saying
Speaker 12: like like, technically this sounds wrong, but the vibe was
Speaker 12: captured and.
Speaker 10: That was the most important thing on Girl, I House
Speaker 10: you on Straight Out the Jungle on Jimbrowski.
Speaker 5: All the background vocals, the whoa, why why baby.
Speaker 10: And even bells ringing on my bracelet or tapping on
Speaker 10: the window or you hit the mic by accident, and
Speaker 10: the echoes, you know, all that stuff was captured live
Speaker 10: and that was the vibe and then the engineer just
Speaker 10: had to work with it make it sound like something.
Speaker 7: Yeah, one of the one of the lines I want
Speaker 7: to make the listeners aware of that is probably definitely
Speaker 7: kind of seeming that you guys in history uh Q
Speaker 7: tip from a ward tour her me and the eighty
Speaker 7: jvs on the promo. Yeah, for those who do not
Speaker 7: who don't know, uh Q tip from a trip called
Speaker 7: Quest was on Straight Out the Jungle on a record
Speaker 7: that was called the promo. The promo was essentially back
Speaker 7: in the day like UH mcs would do promos for DJs,
Speaker 7: and so it was essentially just like UH, it could
Speaker 7: be like a little you know, it could be a minute,
Speaker 7: minute and a half thing of just you rhyming shouting.
Speaker 5: Out to the DJ. So yet in that case it
Speaker 5: was for red Alert.
Speaker 7: But you know, all DJs were doing no Chuck chill
Speaker 7: out had them, you know, every all the DJs at
Speaker 7: that time. And q Tip was actually you guys actually
Speaker 7: gave q Tip his start. How did all you guys
Speaker 7: link up? And what was it that y'all heard in
Speaker 7: him to make you say, you know what, we'll let
Speaker 7: we'll let you get on.
Speaker 5: This m You used the class, Well, we went to
Speaker 5: school together. Yea, we were classes. Yeah, we were in
Speaker 5: the same home room together. Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know where you meet and then you go
Speaker 10: out to your classes. We don't have all the same classes,
Speaker 10: but we were in the same home room together. So
Speaker 10: the in the what year was this this was.
Speaker 5: Uh from eighty four to eighty eight.
Speaker 10: If he would come with UH come to school with
Speaker 10: rhymes and you know we all had a book of
Speaker 10: rhymes and he'd come to school with rhymes and we
Speaker 10: just kind of formed like a relationship through that.
Speaker 5: Gotcha.
Speaker 10: Actually, what actually happened is Mike was m that's my dude,
Speaker 10: that's my jungle brother.
Speaker 5: But he was a great ahead of me.
Speaker 10: Ah, and like what I liked to what I loved
Speaker 10: about him is like he was well known in school,
Speaker 10: but he still was to himself, stuck with himself, you know,
Speaker 10: by himself.
Speaker 5: And I was the same.
Speaker 10: I was well known in school in my grade, but
Speaker 10: I wasn't in any circles. And we met because brother
Speaker 10: Jay from x Clan oh man Em linked us up
Speaker 10: for uh A talent show. M So, long story short,
Speaker 10: he graduated before me and then I had one more
Speaker 10: year left, so q tit would be around me, and
Speaker 10: it was like, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Space yeah, f f F for him, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean?
Speaker 10: Cause I wasn't around Mike as much and in school,
Speaker 10: so he would be around me, and he know I
Speaker 10: w at th he on the weekends, I'm going to
Speaker 10: the studio and then he'd hear the records on the
Speaker 10: way for promos we were doing.
Speaker 5: He'd hear on the radio and stuff like that.
Speaker 10: So then he'd come around and you know, rap to
Speaker 10: me and stuff, do lyrics and he'd s you know,
Speaker 10: like complain that.
Speaker 5: People was comparing him to l School j and he
Speaker 5: was Jane not at the time.
Speaker 10: That trip was compared to Yeah, he was.
Speaker 5: And he was wrapping, rapping like you know that I
Speaker 5: need to be now though yeah, no, not that I
Speaker 5: need no, no, no, no, no, that I need to beat
Speaker 5: you know, all the big words from the dictionary.
Speaker 10: Into a form of a battle rap where you know
Speaker 10: you're outwitting the person you're battling.
Speaker 5: So so I was just like, well.
Speaker 10: That is the thing right now, so good, Like if
Speaker 10: you're on that level, then that's cool. But slowly, but
Speaker 10: surely he was like embracing what was becoming Jungle Brothers.
Speaker 13: Slow down a little bit.
Speaker 10: And slowed down a little bit and that and that
Speaker 10: that was that. That was the era of the Boogie
Speaker 10: Down productions where he was slowing it down and also
Speaker 10: rock him where he was torn and the boys down
Speaker 10: there and it wasn't all a yelling and Mike and
Speaker 10: I that's how we rapped as well.
Speaker 8: We was on some smooth MC ship, you know. That's
Speaker 8: that's what it was about. You know, we wasn't really battling.
Speaker 8: We was wasn't battling. We held were trying to get girls.
Speaker 14: You know.
Speaker 10: It was the smooth spoony G type rap me and
Speaker 10: Mike Love spoony G.
Speaker 5: And one of his first rhymes was like that, you know, so.
Speaker 10: Slowly but surely, Jane Nice was coming into his own,
Speaker 10: not into his own, but coming into the jungle brother
Speaker 10: vibe and then going away with that and developing into
Speaker 10: something that couldn't be compared to. And that's when I said, look,
Speaker 10: come down to the studio and.
Speaker 5: Let's do this promo joint.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 5: To know that q tit was compared to, that's just amazing, ladies, gentlemen.
Speaker 5: He just walked out.
Speaker 1: I've been here the whole time. I mean when I
Speaker 1: heard this episode, y'all talked to Smack behind me as
Speaker 1: Margaret always.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, Eli quest Love is back.
Speaker 7: Ladies, gentlemen, Okay, so girl, I house you what made
Speaker 7: y'all go? Because that was I mean, like you're said,
Speaker 7: that was a very bold direction and it was something
Speaker 7: that uh, at that time, I didn't know of any
Speaker 7: other hip hop artists that were that were doing it.
Speaker 7: It kind of kicked off the hip House movement, which.
Speaker 5: That was the first house song I ever heard.
Speaker 7: I didn't know same here and that really just kind
Speaker 7: of you know, there are a lot of imitators.
Speaker 5: That came in your way, and but that was still
Speaker 5: the one that was like.
Speaker 7: I think Latifa got it right, but coming to my
Speaker 7: house that she was dope, But I think was it
Speaker 7: was it top Terry Yeah, and he did the house
Speaker 7: did house?
Speaker 5: Yeah? What made you guys do that? Like what was
Speaker 5: that session?
Speaker 1: Like, well, obviously did some hours at the at Larry
Speaker 1: Levan's uh sparede Garage?
Speaker 5: Yes, obviously, Oh yeah, I mean I did.
Speaker 10: I think My mother was driving cabs when the Paradise
Speaker 10: Garage was happening and she took.
Speaker 5: Me there when I was twelve years old.
Speaker 10: She took me there when I was twelve years old,
Speaker 10: and I got a little taste of that crowd that early,
Speaker 10: the whole.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, the common denominators with all the
Speaker 1: guests on the show.
Speaker 5: To your parents.
Speaker 10: My mom was driving cabs like late that night and
Speaker 10: she was like, you're gonna come with me. I want
Speaker 10: to show you this place where I get all my rides,
Speaker 10: And it was it was Paradise.
Speaker 7: Garage for the listeners. This was Larry Levaughn, who was
Speaker 7: a incredible legend, legendary pioneer house. He laid everything open
Speaker 7: format his best his best.
Speaker 5: DJ gig was not playing records.
Speaker 1: He played the Wizard of Oz movie once and they
Speaker 1: said it was the most legendary night. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: had legendary DJ stories, but him playing Jackson Five's ABC
Speaker 1: his very last gig at the.
Speaker 5: Studio fifty four.
Speaker 1: It was defiantly playing ABC for three hours in a
Speaker 1: row in defiance Tanya Garter's heartbeat. He forced them like
Speaker 1: they they opposed to it. It was like too slow
Speaker 1: for them. They hated it, and he forced them. He says,
Speaker 1: I will, I will play this until y'all give me
Speaker 1: the respect I dessert And he's single handedly like said,
Speaker 1: you're gonna dance to some down tempo ninety bpm ship.
Speaker 5: So yeah, he's a monster.
Speaker 10: That's a good backstory for our house because you said
Speaker 10: it was a bold move, but we didn't see it
Speaker 10: that way. Because of the environment here in New York City,
Speaker 10: the birthplace of hip hop, you still had a strong
Speaker 10: dance scene, you know, just go high, you know, and
Speaker 10: downtown punk rock scene. So a lot and a lot
Speaker 10: of things were crossing together and together those scenes were
Speaker 10: linked together.
Speaker 5: You know, hip hop was.
Speaker 10: Still young, so it didn't have what it has now,
Speaker 10: like its own click boundaries, you know, and with boundaries
Speaker 10: and rigid formulae structures.
Speaker 5: It was a jam. Everything was a jam everywhere.
Speaker 10: You could get away with playing the Wizard of Ours
Speaker 10: and Grand After Flash and get away with playing.
Speaker 5: The Clash, you know. So but yeah, it was nothing.
Speaker 5: It was. It was that's what we're supposed to do.
Speaker 5: I mean, I was going to clubs.
Speaker 10: I was going to clubs carrying records for Red Alert.
Speaker 5: We all were playing, we all had a crate. But
Speaker 5: then I would leave.
Speaker 10: That club and go to our house club, like the
Speaker 10: World or some club with no name, holding the wall
Speaker 10: and being there till three four in the morning with
Speaker 10: just househeads, and at least four of the records they
Speaker 10: were playing was Todd Terry's records, and I could hear
Speaker 10: Todd Terry. It was a a is a producer from
Speaker 10: Brooklyn who was making hip hop and really wasn't getting
Speaker 10: that love and went into making house records and got
Speaker 10: a lot of love. And so I was hearing the
Speaker 10: hip hop samples in the house records he was making.
Speaker 10: I was like, he's the only guy doing this, you know,
Speaker 10: like all the house records were looping disco or having
Speaker 10: somebody preach over the record or mixing Martin Luther King
Speaker 10: or Malcolm XO. But Tod Terry was actually sampling breakbeats
Speaker 10: from hip hop crates and putting it into house music.
Speaker 8: So Chicago from the Chicago breaks, they was really the Chicago.
Speaker 10: Scene, Fast Freddy, Tyree Cooper. These were the guys that
Speaker 10: really they were setting it off because they were tired
Speaker 10: of doing house music, so they started rapping over it.
Speaker 5: But we didn't know about them. Uh you see what
Speaker 5: I'm saying.
Speaker 10: So one day we come in the studio at the
Speaker 10: end of Straight out the Jungle, we get out of school.
Speaker 10: We go to the studio and the studio that Todd
Speaker 10: Terry worked in, we worked in, and the engineer, Tony
Speaker 10: d said, do you guys want to make a house record?
Speaker 10: We was like, yeah, sure, didn't even think of it
Speaker 10: as a separate genre from hip hop.
Speaker 5: He put the record on and it was Royal House party. People.
Speaker 5: Now we used to see Royal House at the house,
Speaker 5: go out and do shows.
Speaker 10: Four people who were just dancers who worked on Wall Street,
Speaker 10: and we were like, y'all don't rap and you go
Speaker 10: out and do shows and you get five grand. So
Speaker 10: he put the record on and I was like, yo,
Speaker 10: I did I swept to that record party people by
Speaker 10: Royal House. So I said, yeah, let's do it. So
Speaker 10: we took the took the record, put it on the turnta.
Speaker 10: Me said, I don't have instrumental turntable press record on
Speaker 10: the eight track machine, recorded the whole record to the
Speaker 10: eight track machine, and then I in twenty minutes, I
Speaker 10: sang the hook girl, oule house shoe girl, loule house
Speaker 10: shoot you and my hut now because at the time
Speaker 10: we were saying and hip hop, we would say we're
Speaker 10: gonna house househ you like I'll take tomorrow. And so
Speaker 10: immediately I caught the double meaning of our house shoe
Speaker 10: in house music, and so I was like buzzing off
Speaker 10: of that cause I was like, one side is gonna
Speaker 10: hear it and go that's legit. You know, hip hop's
Speaker 10: gonna hear and say that's legit. And the other side,
Speaker 10: the dance people was gonna hear and go yeah, house
Speaker 10: music all like long, yeah, and so that set the
Speaker 10: hook off and then I just kind of freestyled in.
Speaker 5: The booth overdubbed the vocals.
Speaker 10: Then Mike went in and you know, I guess two
Speaker 10: hours later the record was done, and then we did
Speaker 10: some cuts on it, and we felt like we broke
Speaker 10: it down to a hip hop level. So we and
Speaker 10: then I remember calling a leics Shahid, and I was like, yo,
Speaker 10: I put the phone at the speaking I was like.
Speaker 5: I was proud. I was like, yo, look at listen
Speaker 5: to what we just did.
Speaker 10: And and Tip was on the phone and you was
Speaker 10: listening down. And then I took the phone back when
Speaker 10: the record was over and I said, you heard that?
Speaker 10: That is the jam and Ali was like, oh wow.
Speaker 10: He was like, Yo, that sounded like a real house
Speaker 10: record too.
Speaker 5: That was crazy.
Speaker 10: I repeat, that sounds like a real record too, you know,
Speaker 10: like authentic, you know.
Speaker 5: And I was like yeah.
Speaker 10: And I was like, but you can hear the hip
Speaker 10: hop in it too, you know, Sammy doing the cut.
Speaker 5: Star Wars breakbeat. So it was just like an exciting time.
Speaker 10: Now that record was given to the record company, they
Speaker 10: laughed at it. They said, we're not putting it on
Speaker 10: the vinyl. What, but we'll put it on the cassette.
Speaker 5: Wow. And what did the DJs do?
Speaker 10: From Limelight to Studio fifty four to Roseland to the Palladium,
Speaker 10: to Milky Way to pay Day to Land, what did
Speaker 10: all the DJs do? They took the cassette and at
Speaker 10: the end of the night was the last record they.
Speaker 5: Played, and they said, red, we need this record on vinyl.
Speaker 5: We playing it on cassette.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: So they had to go back and remaster the album
Speaker 5: and repress Wow, which.
Speaker 8: Goes back to G Street because they was the first
Speaker 8: one to actually take the song and preuss it on
Speaker 8: the hour original.
Speaker 5: Yeah, was like what this is not an album.
Speaker 8: It's like, yeah, we won't do the deal if that
Speaker 8: record is not on the album.
Speaker 1: So what was the reception like at the Latin Quarter
Speaker 1: when they heard, Like, were they open to it? Like
Speaker 1: could they play that at the Latin Quarter?
Speaker 5: Yo? Not at Quarters? It was kind of passed, It
Speaker 5: was pasted. Yeah, it was yeah, Latin Quarter.
Speaker 10: I'm sorry sorry I mentioned Latin Quarter, but that reckon
Speaker 10: wasn't recorded yet in the Latin Quarter years. Part of
Speaker 10: me on that, but that audience was still in those
Speaker 10: other clubs, especially Roseland And what was the.
Speaker 5: Club that closed that They closed down a couple of.
Speaker 10: Times that we did the final party for and they
Speaker 10: had a freestyle night. You think about that your question
Speaker 10: as your question, though I just wanted it was tramps.
Speaker 15: No, no, it was it was the.
Speaker 8: Rock eighteen team make the dream.
Speaker 9: Work the dream Work.
Speaker 5: Anyway, that record went down well with.
Speaker 10: Hip hop and the dance audience so much so that
Speaker 10: you had dudes that was like, yo, I hated house
Speaker 10: music until I heard that.
Speaker 5: I didn't like music until I heard that record. But yo,
Speaker 5: y'all got one.
Speaker 10: And then you start seeing those dudes at those clubs,
Speaker 10: you know, the hardcore dudes that would be listening to
Speaker 10: m w A be like, Yo, Jungle Brothers is playing
Speaker 10: here tonight. Ten eighteen were up in here, five thousand
Speaker 10: packed dudes in their first coach with the bottle of
Speaker 10: them away. It's like as soon as they go, as
Speaker 10: soon as that record come on, we're going straight.
Speaker 8: That's that's That was the one that old girls girls out.
Speaker 5: They caught on. They housed them, no doubt, but question.
Speaker 5: It was an anomaly and you could see it. You
Speaker 5: can see that people.
Speaker 10: It broke through the whole genre of boundary thing because
Speaker 10: it became just music.
Speaker 5: People just danced to it and jammed to it.
Speaker 10: Whether they was like I'm in the hip hop or
Speaker 10: I'm in the house, they was everybody.
Speaker 3: Was together a universal battle song to, like dance battle
Speaker 3: song to. I always remember seeing people in the club
Speaker 3: and that must be crazy to see people dance battle
Speaker 3: into your song like what they.
Speaker 2: Do like house shoot, yeah, exactly. It worked like Baltimore places,
Speaker 2: there you.
Speaker 5: Go, there, you go exactly, oh man.
Speaker 10: And then we go overseas and we think we're gonna
Speaker 10: be doing like a hip hop tour, which we did
Speaker 10: hip hop dates, but then we being.
Speaker 16: Like raves raves, they didn't even call them ridiculous, and
Speaker 16: sometimes they just be like, guys, here's eight thousand dollars,
Speaker 16: just do this the one.
Speaker 5: That's what they because I got it like that.
Speaker 10: If we did a whole show of straight out the Jungle,
Speaker 10: people people.
Speaker 5: Will be just waiting for our house. Yeah. Sometimes wow.
Speaker 10: So at the same we have that now at the
Speaker 10: same time we was breaking straight out the Jungle and
Speaker 10: that new vibe of hip hop, the whole rock chem
Speaker 10: esque E P M D S vibe of hip hop
Speaker 10: to a new audience in Berlin.
Speaker 5: With the walls.
Speaker 10: We were also breaking into the Acid House and we
Speaker 10: were breaking grounds with.
Speaker 5: All the raveheads that were doing the big festival.
Speaker 3: Not for nothing you mentioned the wall coming down. I
Speaker 3: just want to say, y'all did a festival at Wimbley
Speaker 3: for Mandela like when he first got.
Speaker 8: Yeah, when the first release birthday, Yeah, when they released
Speaker 8: it from President from Prins Yeah nice, Yeah, yes, us
Speaker 8: that's a sonic Nana Cherry. Yeah, you two, you two.
Speaker 8: That was probably the biggest date. That was the biggest
Speaker 8: ever was at that time?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Wait was was I late for the recording techniques? And
Speaker 1: yeah we missed the techniques for Straight Out the Jones.
Speaker 1: So you guys got all the stories. We got the story,
Speaker 1: all right. That's I have so many people, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that you know, no doubt,
Speaker 1: no doubt.
Speaker 5: That some girlfriends where we right now and then and
Speaker 5: there in their journey we are.
Speaker 7: We talked about Rough Deluxe, we went Straight Out the Jones.
Speaker 5: We talked about Crazy Wisdom Mass.
Speaker 7: We talked Crazy Wisdom Mass, but I'm sure story.
Speaker 2: We didn't talk about how they ended up at the
Speaker 2: root picnic.
Speaker 5: But you know, well because.
Speaker 8: But we was here, okay, okay, so we were in Japan, yeah,
Speaker 8: showing performing on stage.
Speaker 5: You already know the story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just one person, no, no, everybody else Okay.
Speaker 5: Japan, performing on stage.
Speaker 9: At the festival Soul Camp.
Speaker 10: And Sean g who was tour manager for Jill Scott.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the roots manager and the roots.
Speaker 10: Manager was in the audience. And then after the show
Speaker 10: he told me he was texting.
Speaker 5: He showed me the show.
Speaker 1: Sean was like, I was watching the show twelve hours behind,
Speaker 1: like four in the morning.
Speaker 5: That's technology is crazy.
Speaker 10: I went, I went, I went into the catering to eat,
Speaker 10: and Sean was like, yo, I was just texting quest
Speaker 10: Love and telling him, you know the show. You guys
Speaker 10: got to come to the picnic. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 10: you know live Leap of Faith, because it's like that
Speaker 10: was just a week agos two weeks ago. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 10: we moved, were only in Japan. Made the Work show,
Speaker 10: that MTV show, then one of the show after that,
Speaker 10: and then I was still in Japan for two weeks.
Speaker 5: After that. I just flew from Japan to Turkey to
Speaker 5: London to here.
Speaker 2: Because you don't live in this country.
Speaker 5: Don't live in country. Where are you? Where are you living?
Speaker 10: Don't ask me about politics, no clue.
Speaker 2: I asked you about the Brexit that's where.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm in Brexit world in London.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I live in London, but I've lived in a
Speaker 10: lot of places, and I just recently been in London
Speaker 10: for a year.
Speaker 5: I've lived in Panama, moving around. But yeah, that's how.
Speaker 5: That's how we arrived here. Thank you, Sean Cheefe, no doubt,
Speaker 5: thank you for you're for the jungle. You don't do
Speaker 5: a long ago. All right, So we're sitting here.
Speaker 1: Right now, uh with really one of one of my
Speaker 1: one of my favorite people ever.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: You are a one human operating, just walking machine of
Speaker 1: of of of of talent. I think the first time
Speaker 1: I saw you in Brooklyn, you were doing h Biggie's. Yes,
Speaker 1: you did Biggiest Juice and then I I haven't left
Speaker 1: your side. We've been signed these twins ever since. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the Court of Supreme Ladies and Gentlemen. Emily Wells, y'all.
Speaker 3: The third roop picnic for Emily, right, like how many picnics?
Speaker 15: Okay you did, Phil?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, she's been am I like her. Her
Speaker 1: and Chill Moody are just like the are our go
Speaker 1: to always you know, give them.
Speaker 5: Because you're cool.
Speaker 13: Well you know, but you welcomed me with your love.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I feel like Barry White.
Speaker 7: Now wait wait, wow, wait a minute, yes, now, why
Speaker 7: was it so white?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 5: Wow?
Speaker 1: Wait, that's the whitest thing you've ever thought thirty years
Speaker 1: I've known you.
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, I'm assaulted because.
Speaker 1: Because when she said it, it filtered to you as
Speaker 1: a creed.
Speaker 5: So but to me, I was going very white with it, Creed,
Speaker 5: I know. Hey man, it's it's real. We already know
Speaker 5: Sante is the is the Jedi Master?
Speaker 1: No, but yeah you I well, first of all, how
Speaker 1: was your set?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 13: It was really fun playing.
Speaker 7: For me.
Speaker 13: It's unusual play you know, stage.
Speaker 17: In the day and watching people trying to figure out
Speaker 17: what what does she do?
Speaker 13: There's no computer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they always get it in the third or fourth minute.
Speaker 1: And that's how it was because when I you know,
Speaker 1: because it takes you for those that don't know, I
Speaker 1: guess what what is What is your go to device
Speaker 1: that you do to loop?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 13: It's actually it's.
Speaker 5: That green device on.
Speaker 17: This you're talking about and samplennulas kind of it's kind
Speaker 17: of like having like a really accessible quick like you know.
Speaker 1: Four track, but like plus you know, so when you
Speaker 1: do that, is there a click track inside of your ears?
Speaker 1: Because when I watch you do this, you always start
Speaker 1: off with this kind of long ethereal note. And I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure out if you're counting the metronome in
Speaker 1: your head because you wind up, you loop everything perfect,
Speaker 1: but it's just such a yello like moldless form of time,
Speaker 1: but you always seem to catch it.
Speaker 13: The strings.
Speaker 17: I think they have that sort of femeral thing going
Speaker 17: on by their very nature.
Speaker 13: And I like to get a little and everything just
Speaker 13: let everything swim. But yeah, I I.
Speaker 18: It's a lot of practice for sure, And it's a
Speaker 18: lot of yeah, just.
Speaker 17: Just knowing where my one is, even if not obvious, it's.
Speaker 5: A good lesson knowing where you want is one? Where
Speaker 5: then is it? I wish.
Speaker 1: Morning certain members of the roots hespired?
Speaker 5: That's good? No, well, okay, so I.
Speaker 13: Also have a.
Speaker 17: On the stage with Okay, like I put some of
Speaker 17: my beats in there. I put all sorts of random
Speaker 17: simples that anything I want, So that really helped me
Speaker 17: open up your arrangements so I'm not just stuck on
Speaker 17: these loops.
Speaker 13: So if I wanna go to a A B section or.
Speaker 1: Whatever, I can just like yeah, I think at one
Speaker 1: point I you were I don't know if you were
Speaker 1: playing keyboard with your right hand and the the the
Speaker 1: SPD drump pad with your left.
Speaker 5: Hand and looping and sing.
Speaker 1: You know, it's you really have to see it like
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's it's next level uh performance.
Speaker 5: How long did it take you to to figure that
Speaker 5: all out?
Speaker 19: Oh?
Speaker 13: Well, it it took some time. I mean it started
Speaker 13: really simple. I think I think it really started with.
Speaker 17: Strings and the loop pedal for me because violin and
Speaker 17: never knew how to incorporate that into a set, because
Speaker 17: I I'm not gonna play like I can.
Speaker 13: Schedule in the club, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 13: oh what ll again? But that's not gonna.
Speaker 5: Apply for an an hour and.
Speaker 17: So and strings are meant to you know, rub next
Speaker 17: to each other, so I wanted that's so it kind
Speaker 17: of started with that, and then oh can.
Speaker 13: I just a.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 13: Stuf like stupid.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, you're your own uh tech
Speaker 1: as well, like what if it. What if the equipment
Speaker 1: breaks down, then what you just go a cappella?
Speaker 5: It can't it has it ever broken down?
Speaker 18: I've had, But I don't, really, like I said, on
Speaker 18: a computers, cause that stuff will break.
Speaker 13: Down more than a day.
Speaker 1: Really, I was about to say, you're you're you're one
Speaker 1: of the the sh should I say the Brooklyn elite
Speaker 1: that don't usually like when those Brooklyn act Brooklyn e
Speaker 1: acts come on our show, I'll see more MacBook pros on.
Speaker 5: Stage and yeah than anything else.
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, I was about to say that you're
Speaker 1: you're old school and your digital embrace. Sure, sure so
Speaker 1: kind of like D'Angelo with floppy discs.
Speaker 5: Oh so many.
Speaker 4: That I love that.
Speaker 14: And then yeah, uh it's like you can't even call
Speaker 14: that analog. It's like what what what what did you
Speaker 14: call that?
Speaker 1: Well, it's yeah, it's I don't care about electronic. It's electronic.
Speaker 1: It's not analoge. So a, So, how do you apply this?
Speaker 1: I always wanted to know when when you're recording, uh
Speaker 1: your music in the studio, how do you apply what
Speaker 1: you do live on stage to your cause, y, your
Speaker 1: music is more fleshed out in the studio than it
Speaker 1: is uh on stage.
Speaker 13: To try to bring that feeling of the live thing
Speaker 13: as it is for anyone into a into a recording studio.
Speaker 17: I mean, I I try to make it a mixture
Speaker 17: of those samples.
Speaker 13: And some things are just created in.
Speaker 17: The moment, and I wanna take the moment I was
Speaker 17: writing that song into the record then.
Speaker 13: And let it be forever. Some things I wanna reperform
Speaker 13: over and over again. Locks and lots of layers of strings.
Speaker 17: I mean some of my records a viola, violin and
Speaker 17: many like you know, twenty one layers or what you know.
Speaker 5: Whatever, and then try to you can layer that much?
Speaker 13: Yeah, well I do it live. I just play it over.
Speaker 13: I mean it's like this too.
Speaker 1: Oh you just uh uh uh you know, to sound fuller, Okay,
Speaker 1: make it sound.
Speaker 13: Really really big and.
Speaker 17: Yeah, I but some things are you know, are sampled
Speaker 17: right into that little pedal. And and as I'm writing
Speaker 17: the songs and I don't, I don't bring those samples
Speaker 17: into I kind of treat them as though I couldn't
Speaker 17: treat those samples like I was taking it off the
Speaker 17: record or something like that.
Speaker 13: I kind of create the loop.
Speaker 1: That I would make that I would that you would
Speaker 1: wanna take off of wan smart cause when I drama
Speaker 1: do the same thing, I might work.
Speaker 5: Your own break. That's dope, exactly.
Speaker 1: Make alright, God, so what's your future and t So
Speaker 1: you just uh released your record?
Speaker 5: Uh what three months ago?
Speaker 17: Or yeah, well a few months ago, you promise?
Speaker 20: Yeah, and I put it out on my own record label.
Speaker 18: And yeah, I just just I have I have a
Speaker 18: next the next and he has the next record. But
Speaker 18: it's a hard right because it's it's kind of about.
Speaker 1: And you mean, what will life be like after November?
Speaker 1: I've seen the future and boys.
Speaker 13: Rough, how do you make That's the question with a
Speaker 13: lot of artists face.
Speaker 5: So I'm it's gonna be great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what he's gonna do if he gets
Speaker 2: he's not gonna get it though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well uh on you know, once again, I thank
Speaker 1: you for doing the Roots picnic and anytime you you
Speaker 1: uh do anything with us collaborating whatever, you know, it's
Speaker 1: a treat. We're probably gonna work on this next roots
Speaker 1: album together because we've been we've been threatening to do
Speaker 1: this for for three albums now, so we're gonna make
Speaker 1: it happen. Em We wells, ladies and gentlemen, I want
Speaker 1: to go to can we play? Oh we can.
Speaker 4: Wake up?
Speaker 5: Just seen it the entire room like we can. Glad.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Emily and her class.
Speaker 15: Thank you man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, shout out for her being a trooper.
Speaker 21: She on the couch, Oh, thank you.
Speaker 5: So happy on the couch.
Speaker 13: Of record.
Speaker 17: That was and.
Speaker 13: The idea. I have this idea in my head. I
Speaker 13: will make it happy. I loved it so much.
Speaker 5: That's what's up. That's good.
Speaker 1: Well, we're going to go to Passenger by Emily wells
Speaker 1: Uh on Quest of Supreme only on Pandora.
Speaker 5: We will be right back. We are lots from the
Speaker 5: roach picnic in y C.
Speaker 22: I'm my person, Jo, I'm gonna person. Jin give me
Speaker 22: the keys. I'm a job, I'm a person. I'm the
Speaker 22: person if.
Speaker 5: You give me the keys.
Speaker 4: You know, so.
Speaker 23: Poll for its up throat and need it just to
Speaker 23: go a kiddy, kiddy, say it ain't so.
Speaker 4: I'm driving on tomorrow and.
Speaker 23: Losing on my rope botom of the wall, and I've
Speaker 23: just lost the rope.
Speaker 9: I had a feeling this myn.
Speaker 13: Is so hard.
Speaker 20: So tell me, tell me that you know how to make.
Speaker 23: It's to give me a a you mad, just sing
Speaker 23: give me all your bills, your bed siding, just to
Speaker 23: kill my ls.
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Speaker 7: This is Quest Love Supreme only on Pandora, Fonte Fontagelo, Sugar,
Speaker 7: Steve Lovely La, Boss, Bill Scott, motherfucking yea yo.
Speaker 5: That was passenger and lactating unpaid unpaid correction, we forgot it.
Speaker 7: Unpaid Bill is paid now, but we can still call
Speaker 7: my here.
Speaker 5: It's called continuity, so we gotta exactly.
Speaker 7: We were too far in the story to change it
Speaker 7: about underpaid.
Speaker 5: Under Okay, nicknames.
Speaker 1: My Maya Rudolph is still talking about the radio show,
Speaker 1: and she still calls you black Bill and white Bill.
Speaker 5: She said, wait, wait, who's some people like? I said,
Speaker 5: I've had nickname.
Speaker 2: She's like the only one that can do that because
Speaker 2: shepped both sides. But wait, so Boston.
Speaker 1: She was the first guest on our show. She still knows,
Speaker 1: but she was the first lady of She was the
Speaker 1: first lady question.
Speaker 24: She was the first and fell asleep forget it.
Speaker 2: She still you know, she could play both.
Speaker 3: I was about to give you some love, Boss, because
Speaker 3: you've been busy the last few days them.
Speaker 7: The name of the jam though for yeah you did
Speaker 7: we did, I don't think we did well.
Speaker 5: That was Passenger five minutes fact. Okay, so Liaiah, you
Speaker 5: were saying, no, I'm just.
Speaker 3: Saying that I wanted the bosses about to leave because
Speaker 3: he got to go on stage the main show, which
Speaker 3: is tonight, D'Angelo, John Maye.
Speaker 1: Mayor, John Mayor, and uh, a friend of mine from
Speaker 1: Chicago is going to come by as well.
Speaker 14: By the time everybody here's this, you know, it'll the
Speaker 14: show be in the past. So you can go ahead
Speaker 14: and tell us.
Speaker 5: Now, let's keep it a mystery alone.
Speaker 24: Alchoh, Michael Jordan, I was going I wish it was
Speaker 24: going to be out shut off, asshole.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I just wanted to say, Kirby Bucket just rest.
Speaker 1: He's from Minneapolis, Steve doing what he missed, the irony
Speaker 1: of saying your joke from your joke.
Speaker 5: Yes, okay, this is love supreme.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So tonight is uh the roots and uh we
Speaker 1: got common we got uh.
Speaker 5: John Mayor, and we got D'Angelo.
Speaker 1: The reason why I'm like struggling to remember things is
Speaker 1: because I mean the way that I do business is
Speaker 1: I kind of I tend.
Speaker 5: To agree to things fourteen.
Speaker 1: Months ahead of time, like right now we are planning
Speaker 1: the Philly Roots Picnic right now eight and with a
Speaker 1: very monumental record that came out as of this taping.
Speaker 1: We're now talking to that particular young lady about headlining. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just tend to plan things way ahead of time,
Speaker 1: and so at I don't know for me. Once it
Speaker 1: was proposed to me that we should do a Roots
Speaker 1: picnic on steroids and instead of the Roots back in
Speaker 1: the one act, why don't.
Speaker 7: We back like everybody, six of them?
Speaker 5: And I was like, yeah, yeah, of course I'll do that.
Speaker 1: And then once crunch time comes, you know, man, just
Speaker 1: the daggers in the stairs of all the Roots family
Speaker 1: members looking at me, I feel horrible, like all of
Speaker 1: them are libras, or I guess they're still libras even
Speaker 1: with the addition of that.
Speaker 5: Unspoken the astrological sign.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but all of them all their birthdays of this week,
Speaker 1: so most of them have had to uh not hang
Speaker 1: with their families and rehearse and wait and rehearse and wait.
Speaker 2: And he said they looked like zombie, like they.
Speaker 5: Were kung fu zombies. It just it just seems. It
Speaker 5: just seemed like I was in mood.
Speaker 1: But you know, I had a few triple espressos, so
Speaker 1: I was like normal while everyone else was like that's
Speaker 1: what you do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but no I don't sleep. Driver.
Speaker 2: It's like, no, you don't sleep.
Speaker 1: No, I do sleep. But I'm just saying that this
Speaker 1: this show is packed with a lot of cues and
Speaker 1: a lot of modulations and tricks and and and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that I remember everything. It's going to be
Speaker 1: a monster show. But I just hope that I remember everything.
Speaker 7: I think even if you don't remember, everything will be noneththerwiser.
Speaker 7: I think the crowd would just be happy. I know,
Speaker 7: to you, you be like, fuck I missed that. Whatever,
Speaker 7: But I'm willing to let the small stuff slide.
Speaker 1: But just the kind of neurotic nature of the guests
Speaker 1: that we had, like that are other show.
Speaker 7: You know they're gonna want it, like perfect note for
Speaker 7: note for note.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but miss it.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah they're missing and like get over yourself, dude,
Speaker 7: Like I'm paying, I'm playing for eighteen other motherfuckers.
Speaker 5: Right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But they never understand, they never understand that they never
Speaker 1: understand that she's witness to this stuff. Howard rehearsals. In
Speaker 1: your opinion, the first night of rehearsals with D'Angelo was
Speaker 1: probably that was the most beautiful thing I ever seen,
Speaker 1: because like common also happened to be rehearsal next door.
Speaker 5: That's how you post that on Instagram.
Speaker 1: And he had like his room was the epicenter collective
Speaker 1: of all like neo neo blackatism. We quoted new terms here,
Speaker 1: it was neo blackatism. Like it was like you know,
Speaker 1: Jamila of the mew and and and Ava and like
Speaker 1: all of class, yeah, Robert Glasper like just all the
Speaker 1: ensigns whining candles set of twenty fifteen sixty and it
Speaker 1: was like we were the pie piper. We we were
Speaker 1: going over the root from Voodoo and just one by one,
Speaker 1: like it was like all the children of you Voodoo
Speaker 1: just came like we looked up and then there was
Speaker 1: like at least like twenty of them, like it was
Speaker 1: a closed versal, but they all just came in, you know,
Speaker 1: and family, it was less a family reunion and more
Speaker 1: like and Dangel has never seen that, like it's really
Speaker 1: hard for him to even imagine the foodoo effect because
Speaker 1: he's so isolated from the world, so he doesn't get
Speaker 1: like he doesn't know what the dirty projectors are, and.
Speaker 5: How like their whole harmony game.
Speaker 1: Is based on you know, like Dave's hold Steeze is
Speaker 1: like Yo, Voodoo is how I stack my harmonies and
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and like all these references that even
Speaker 1: I missed, So just to see, I mean, the collective
Speaker 1: story is always like, yeah, when I was eight, my
Speaker 1: older sister got that record, and I grew up on
Speaker 1: that record. So just to watch them as food grown
Speaker 1: adults watching D'Angelo do that shit like it was, it was,
Speaker 1: it was some beautiful.
Speaker 3: Well boss, speaking of d Angelo, I just got to
Speaker 3: call from the officials at Brian Park.
Speaker 5: You got to go, Yeah, I gotta go.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is not the question of supreme.
Speaker 7: So we're so completely happy and honor today to be
Speaker 7: joined by a young lady that I am a fan of,
Speaker 7: you know, looking at the photo right now, and she
Speaker 7: first captured my heart when she put out a record. God,
Speaker 7: I want to say, was it twenty twelve?
Speaker 5: Was it was that.
Speaker 9: When life came up?
Speaker 15: Yeah?
Speaker 20: Christ and two thousand and oh my.
Speaker 7: God, it was Oh man, wow, time, keep on slipping
Speaker 7: into the future. Nah Man, Live your Life. It was
Speaker 7: a record she put out, produced by Pharrell, and uh,
Speaker 7: it was just something that was just I was amazed
Speaker 7: just by the simplicity of it.
Speaker 5: It was something that drove.
Speaker 7: It was at a you know, very driving beat, very
Speaker 7: mellow uh you know, keyboard, you know, arrangement and her voice.
Speaker 7: The thing I liked about it was that it just
Speaker 7: sounded really pure. It was just not a lot of
Speaker 7: vocal tricks, not a whole lot of just not a
Speaker 7: whole lot of a dormant It was just really simple
Speaker 7: and it cut through and she just sang the song
Speaker 7: and the lyrically really spoke to me was a you know,
Speaker 7: live if you really want to, you know, and sess
Speaker 7: that's something that you know, living is is a choice,
Speaker 7: you know, and and that really spoke to me. So, uh,
Speaker 7: ladies and gentlemen, give a big quest love Supreme Team,
Speaker 7: Supreme Brown. Applause for incredibly talented Una ladies jumping bang
Speaker 7: bang bang when this joint stage fresh out stage, How
Speaker 7: was your performance?
Speaker 5: Time to go?
Speaker 19: It went really really well, like you know, the crowd
Speaker 19: was amazing and yeah, it was just kind of like
Speaker 19: we we drove from yesterday. Oh my god, we were
Speaker 19: from Rhode Island yesterday. Oh wow, Providence, Rhode Island. So
Speaker 19: I'm on tour right now, you know. So yeah, we've
Speaker 19: been on the road, so coming out here is like
Speaker 19: a like a treat and I've always like, I've been
Speaker 19: looking forward to perform at the Roots Picnic.
Speaker 20: So yeah, I had a lot of fun.
Speaker 5: That's dope. What so your show?
Speaker 7: I was unfortunate, you know, I wasn't able to see
Speaker 7: your show because I was stuck over here.
Speaker 5: Doing this ship.
Speaker 7: Our cult leader of Mirror Thompson had us locked up
Speaker 7: in here like like hostages. No food, no food we
Speaker 7: had had and we had to ask for the water
Speaker 7: we had to ask for.
Speaker 5: That's a cushy.
Speaker 7: Gig, you know what I'm saying. But not so, I
Speaker 7: wasn't able to see your show, unfortunately. What does your
Speaker 7: show for people that you know haven't had the fortune
Speaker 7: of singing? What is your show like? Do you of
Speaker 7: course you're singing? Do you playing the instruments?
Speaker 5: Like? What is your what's your state show?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 20: Well, I sing mostly, you know.
Speaker 19: I used to do a lot of acoustic performances, so
Speaker 19: I used to play a lot of the acoustic guitar
Speaker 19: and then you know, like I couldn't hire a guitar player,
Speaker 19: so I play electric guitar on my set. But now
Speaker 19: that I can finally do that, you know, like I
Speaker 19: would love to play the guitar my shows. Is just
Speaker 19: that I just feel like, you know, I'm not like
Speaker 19: exactly like it's a guitar guitar player. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 19: there yet, So we'll just focus on just performing. And
Speaker 19: you know, like I've been touring for four years and
Speaker 19: it's really just I'm just growing into it a real artist,
Speaker 19: Like I never get to do that.
Speaker 20: I never got to do that back home in Malaysia
Speaker 20: where I'm from.
Speaker 19: Yeah, so coming out here was just like going on
Speaker 19: tour and kind of like just slowly learning how to
Speaker 19: you know, give a really good performance for the fans.
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's sellous.
Speaker 7: So Malaysia, Like what is that like in this this
Speaker 7: what's the city's music scene?
Speaker 20: The music scene?
Speaker 19: Oh, it's like it's a small country, but it's constantly growing.
Speaker 19: Like we went from like having singers like just doing
Speaker 19: ballads and traditional Malay music like I'm Malay, so the
Speaker 19: traditional music is more kind of like you know, like
Speaker 19: a cross between like Indonesian and kind of like Thaie
Speaker 19: and so that the Southeast Asian sound, you know. And
Speaker 19: but now it's like slowly growing. Like the hip hop
Speaker 19: scene started like I think like twenty years ago or so,
Speaker 19: you know, so it was it's pretty interesting to see
Speaker 19: Like when I I kind of like grew up just
Speaker 19: watching like Okay, well there's a Malaysian hip hop artist.
Speaker 19: I'm like, oh, okay, there's a Malaysian like indie rock artists,
Speaker 19: and yeah, so I kind of like grew up in
Speaker 19: that setting.
Speaker 2: Any of them crossed over as much as you have.
Speaker 4: I feel.
Speaker 20: No to America.
Speaker 7: No, I think you're kind of like the first stop
Speaker 7: the limo, like you're the one's Charlie Mat. You're Charlie Mat,
Speaker 7: like thank you.
Speaker 5: You know that kind of is putting on.
Speaker 7: Do you feel any like in hip hop in you know, America,
Speaker 7: there is a big the big thing of putting on,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, I put
Speaker 7: on for my city, Like so.
Speaker 5: Wherever I come from, I'm gonna put on for wherever.
Speaker 5: Do you feel the need to put on for the LASiS,
Speaker 5: the whole country? Like I'm Yuna and I'm doing it, but.
Speaker 19: Everybody, I mean, you know, I started out in Malaysia,
Speaker 19: Like I was already doing music for three four years
Speaker 19: back home before I move out to Los Angeles. Did
Speaker 19: you when did you come to LA twenty eleven? Around
Speaker 19: that time?
Speaker 2: The time is short.
Speaker 19: Yeah, So I started making music like two thousand and seven,
Speaker 19: two thousand and eight pretty much. So it's it's quite
Speaker 19: an interesting journey.
Speaker 7: You started making music in two thousand and seven, Yeah,
Speaker 7: that was when you really started.
Speaker 19: So writing, Yeah, writing songs and just kind of like
Speaker 19: producing my own album. Like I didn't want to sign
Speaker 19: to any labels back home. I don't know, like you know,
Speaker 19: inside I felt like inside I was just like in
Speaker 19: my heart, like okay, well I want to be a
Speaker 19: singer songwriter, but I don't want to be signed. I
Speaker 19: don't want to sign with any labels because I know
Speaker 19: if I do that, I'm like kind of like trapped
Speaker 19: in Malaysia for a long long time. So I didn't
Speaker 19: want to do that because I knew, like I want
Speaker 19: to get out of Malaysia. I want to come out
Speaker 19: to the UK or the US and really just make
Speaker 19: music out there.
Speaker 7: How does a person get because that's I mean, that's
Speaker 7: pretty amazing. How does a person get from making music
Speaker 7: starting off making music in two thousand and seven to
Speaker 7: working with for real Williams who is one of the
Speaker 7: biggest producers in the three years man, I mean four years.
Speaker 5: Man. How does the friend of a.
Speaker 2: Friend or like kind of a little bit like that.
Speaker 19: I think it's a little bit of kind of like
Speaker 19: when you work really hard and then you you know,
Speaker 19: like just meeting the right people, and I guess the
Speaker 19: mixture of both. Like I got really lucky, you know,
Speaker 19: like I was in Malaysia just doing my my music thing,
Speaker 19: and then my management from Los Angeles in deepop my
Speaker 19: manager Ben found me on my Space music.
Speaker 20: Oh yeah, that was that time.
Speaker 15: Shout out, where is Tom these days?
Speaker 19: So I know our first friend, but yeah, so I
Speaker 19: don't know, like he hit me up and then emailed me.
Speaker 19: I didn't. I didn't respond to his emails for a
Speaker 19: long time because I thought it was a scam. It
Speaker 19: was just like all these things like I'm not gonna
Speaker 19: reply to an American dude, you know, like just like
Speaker 19: fly out to l A, not not doing what to do.
Speaker 19: But he came out to call a Lumpur, the city
Speaker 19: where I'm from, met up with me, and you know,
Speaker 19: we got to know each other kind of talk about
Speaker 19: our the music career that could be, you know, like
Speaker 19: a potential music career out here. And I was like
Speaker 19: all for it, you know, okay, final, let's do it.
Speaker 19: And so Ben he's been in the music industry for
Speaker 19: a very long time. He just just started a music
Speaker 19: management like label, and he worked in radio for like
Speaker 19: a long long time time. So yeah, I mean, like
Speaker 19: I guess like I got really lucky that he was
Speaker 19: kind of like this fun, like nice and friendly person,
Speaker 19: you know as a manager, because like getting a good
Speaker 19: manager's car.
Speaker 20: Yeah, so yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 7: So when you guys were working on uh on the
Speaker 7: track the work you did with for real, was that
Speaker 7: you guys working together in the studio or was it
Speaker 7: like he did the track and then you came in
Speaker 7: and did it?
Speaker 5: Like how did that come together? Yeah?
Speaker 20: I know, I was.
Speaker 19: I was in the studio with him. Yeah, so we
Speaker 19: were that magic.
Speaker 20: Yeah we Wow.
Speaker 19: I was traveling from Malaysia to Los Angeles and then
Speaker 19: I took a flight to Miami and then from Miami
Speaker 19: like took the I remember this like from Miami Airport.
Speaker 19: We took the taxi and I didn't like shower for
Speaker 19: three days and just like went to the studio and
Speaker 19: then I was like, okay, well maybe I get to
Speaker 19: put some makeup on and I nope. He comes out
Speaker 19: from his car. I'm just like all right, well to
Speaker 19: sit high. I'm you know, yeah, I haven't shot in
Speaker 19: three days.
Speaker 5: But he would.
Speaker 19: He was really sweet, you know, like we got into
Speaker 19: the studio, start working and live your life was like
Speaker 19: the song that kind of just like I was kind
Speaker 19: of like afraid of moving forward with the music because
Speaker 19: he made that beat. Like I remember like maybe like
Speaker 19: we've been in the studio for five days and he
Speaker 19: was like do you like this? You know, he was
Speaker 19: working on something and I thought, I legit thought that
Speaker 19: he was doing that beat for someone else.
Speaker 20: And I'm like, oh no, this is dope.
Speaker 15: I love it.
Speaker 19: And he's like, okay, cool, write on this. I'm like
Speaker 19: wait what you know, Like how do I do this?
Speaker 19: But he guided me through it, you know, so it
Speaker 19: was fun, like it was a learning process, Like I've
Speaker 19: never worked with a hip hop producer before, so it
Speaker 19: was it kind of like bought me to be more
Speaker 19: experimental if you can, you know, like or open to
Speaker 19: new genres, because back then I was really just doing acoustic.
Speaker 19: I was in my own bubble, you know.
Speaker 7: So yeah, you're doing like when you're creative process, when
Speaker 7: you're writing, what comes first? Is it melody first? Or
Speaker 7: is it like lyrics words first? How does that come together?
Speaker 19: It depends really like I can. I'm pretty much you know,
Speaker 19: flexible when it comes to songwriting. I've been doing I've
Speaker 19: been doing it for a long long time. So it's
Speaker 19: like either I'm like I come out with lyrics, I
Speaker 19: write down some words.
Speaker 7: Are you one of these people because I'm I do it?
Speaker 7: Do you keep notes in your phone?
Speaker 20: Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 7: The albums with material in your phone.
Speaker 4: I have.
Speaker 19: I have like a lot of materials in my phone,
Speaker 19: like chapters for example my My the new album. Yeah,
Speaker 19: most of it was just like me writing on my
Speaker 19: my phone, like my notes.
Speaker 2: Yeah for all.
Speaker 3: It's like not the only like living legend that you
Speaker 3: work with. It's weird, this is a short career, but
Speaker 3: you're working with.
Speaker 5: Like great knocking down. It's like David Foster.
Speaker 14: You you have to have like twenty years under your
Speaker 14: So how did that?
Speaker 5: How did that happen?
Speaker 19: Well, So when I first came out to LA obviously
Speaker 19: we went to meet up with a lot of an
Speaker 19: R people, you know, like a lot of labels, like
Speaker 19: shopping for labels, and we met out with UH and
Speaker 19: an R from Verth And at the time that was
Speaker 19: like five years ago. Like the first person that I
Speaker 19: met was this this lady from from Verve Records and
Speaker 19: Universal and she was she she was in love with me,
Speaker 19: you know that she really believed in my career. And uh,
Speaker 19: back then, like David Foster was not in the picture yet.
Speaker 19: So after a while, you know, like he joined Verth
Speaker 19: and he found out about me and then like he
Speaker 19: was like, oh, you know, like why didn't we sign
Speaker 19: this girl like in the So it was really cool
Speaker 19: to be able to you know, come to see him
Speaker 19: and then like played some songs for him and you
Speaker 19: know like work with him, like for for a song
Speaker 19: on this album.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, did.
Speaker 7: You know that you're familiar of like who with who
Speaker 7: he was like before?
Speaker 19: Oh yeah, definitely, he's huge in Malaysia. He would come out,
Speaker 19: he would come out and like do his own concerts?
Speaker 2: Do they go crazy over you? Yet when you go home?
Speaker 2: Did they yeah, and.
Speaker 3: You must get a lot of love too, because like you,
Speaker 3: you you haven't changed who you are. I'm sure at
Speaker 3: some point there was some resistance about you being of
Speaker 3: course the broad Muslim woman that you are, and how
Speaker 3: you dressed the way you dress, even though you had
Speaker 3: you funk it up to a level that is.
Speaker 2: Like, but was there ever any resistance to you being you?
Speaker 20: Oh?
Speaker 4: No not.
Speaker 19: I mean like I've never faced any like, you know,
Speaker 19: anything challenging like.
Speaker 2: That labels because people always.
Speaker 19: Yeah, no, I mean, uh no, not at all. You
Speaker 19: know what's weird though, I went through that back home
Speaker 19: in Malaysia because like, yeah, like covering up it was
Speaker 19: just something like weird, like if you want to be
Speaker 19: an artist, it's not it's something. That's another reason why
Speaker 19: I stayed independent for a very long time because Okay,
Speaker 19: well they're not going to accept me for who I am.
Speaker 20: I gotta change. So I'm not going to change.
Speaker 19: I'm just going to do my thing. And but coming
Speaker 19: out here was surprisingly like super easy. Everyone was just
Speaker 19: like I you know, I was with the Fader label
Speaker 19: for for a while and they were super sweet, super
Speaker 19: supportive and really believed in like my my work and
Speaker 19: my talent and yeah, just like it was just easy
Speaker 19: for me.
Speaker 2: Are you doing anything in the fashion line?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 15: Yeah, I am a little bit, a little bit.
Speaker 2: I feel like I really want.
Speaker 5: You to.
Speaker 7: Know it seemed like it would be fit for you.
Speaker 7: Your newest record, Chapters. You were talking about how this
Speaker 7: was written. If I'm not mistaken, it was written after
Speaker 7: the end of a relationship or was it it was
Speaker 7: inspired by a breakup?
Speaker 13: You're like, you're not sure it was?
Speaker 10: No, no, no, I just want to I know, I know
Speaker 10: it was a record, every army record, I know, one
Speaker 10: of the motherfuckers.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, I just want to make you represent
Speaker 5: the right record.
Speaker 7: It was Chapters, and you were saying that you wanted
Speaker 7: to write a record. You know, previously you were in
Speaker 7: a relationship and you were I guess too dependent co
Speaker 7: dependent on that relationship that you're in, and so you said,
Speaker 7: you know, I want to write a record that you know,
Speaker 7: I was single, I'm free, and I want to write
Speaker 7: something in that state of mind.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 7: What is the difference between those two states of mind
Speaker 7: in terms of creating from a place of I'm in
Speaker 7: this relationship and maybe I'm a little to dependent on
Speaker 7: it versus I'm free and you know, I let that go.
Speaker 19: I mean, I guess, like you being a singer, song
Speaker 19: do you just tend to write like obviously what you
Speaker 19: know best, you know, like you know what's in your heart.
Speaker 19: And for me, at the time, I was going through
Speaker 19: like you know, like a breakup and it was really hard,
Speaker 19: you know, And but now I'm kind of you know,
Speaker 19: like I've moved on obviously by the time, like I
Speaker 19: was really in that moment, So like what do I do? Like, okay,
Speaker 19: like I'm in that moment, and then I have to
Speaker 19: write an album like duh, always like you'll end up
Speaker 19: just writing you know what you what you're feeling, and
Speaker 19: that's how it's supposed to be, you know, instead of
Speaker 19: just like writing happy songs or like you know, faking
Speaker 19: a song. And uh yeah, I guess it's a It
Speaker 19: really depends. Like for chapters, I I wanted to write
Speaker 19: about okay, like at the time I was going through
Speaker 19: a breakup, and then in the present like I feel
Speaker 19: kind of like in the limbo, you know. So there's
Speaker 19: a song called Mannequin where I just kind of feel
Speaker 19: that way and then and the future is like best love,
Speaker 19: like the kind of love that I want for the future,
Speaker 19: you know, so you want for the future.
Speaker 20: That's kind of love.
Speaker 7: Let everyone know because I mean, hey, this is Quess
Speaker 7: Love Supreme and you never know your best love could
Speaker 7: be listening right now.
Speaker 5: So let the people know. You know.
Speaker 7: Let what what does the best love look like?
Speaker 20: You know, someone who's just like.
Speaker 19: Who have the best intentions for you, you know, like
Speaker 19: who just wants you to be happy inside out, like
Speaker 19: without expecting anything back. Not that I'm not going to
Speaker 19: give you anything back, you know, obviously there there will
Speaker 19: be like it's a two way thing. But someone someone
Speaker 19: who's just purely like like lovely.
Speaker 20: I just want someone lovely, you know.
Speaker 7: And yeah, that was that was beautiful.
Speaker 5: In here.
Speaker 7: Man, Well you to thank you so much for taking
Speaker 7: time and coming through and chopping it up with us
Speaker 7: about being lovely.
Speaker 20: And and everything.
Speaker 7: Ladies, gentlemen, give it up for un on Quest. This
Speaker 7: is Questlove Supreme. Fine Tivolo like EA unpaid Bill Boss Bill, Hello,
Speaker 7: Sugar Steve is not Scott Yayo in the building us
Speaker 7: Quest Love Supreme. Y'all team Supremes in the buildings.
Speaker 5: How we go down?
Speaker 7: Listen, we are here today this is We're live in
Speaker 7: New York.
Speaker 5: City at the Brouts Picnic.
Speaker 7: So if you hear any background noise or whatever, that
Speaker 7: is the noise from musicians doing what they do getting
Speaker 7: paid and uh.
Speaker 5: From a few times we do actually get goddamn paid.
Speaker 5: Really on your show, on your show, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying.
Speaker 7: But but nah, man, so listen, we're live here and
Speaker 7: we're here today while with the young man who is
Speaker 7: by birthright music Royalty, Royalty.
Speaker 5: Royalty.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, man, I'm not I mean, no, no,
Speaker 7: no bullshit, no over selling.
Speaker 5: I mean, this is is actual facts.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 7: Ladies and gentlemen, give it up, big question of supreme
Speaker 7: ra applause, mister Daniel Marley, y'all give.
Speaker 5: You man, Thank you for being here.
Speaker 15: Half human, half ninja ninjaja.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 7: For tell us tell us about because because the note
Speaker 7: that we got was that you know you're half human
Speaker 7: half ninja. You're saying your full ninja like yeah, I mean,
Speaker 7: of course, okay, tell us about the life of a ninja.
Speaker 2: I mean we live this life. Okay, this bro, because
Speaker 2: Nina doubles.
Speaker 7: That is it's one of those words we can you know,
Speaker 7: half human also ninja.
Speaker 15: But I'm not half no ninja your ninja, okay, because
Speaker 15: I'm a ninja. You know, I'm very much into martial
Speaker 15: arts fully. You know, I grew up very into Bruce Lee,
Speaker 15: into his philosophy, you know, into everything he says, into
Speaker 15: his trainer as well, and so that that culture of
Speaker 15: martial arts is is a big deal to me. And
Speaker 15: and how they live their life and you know Charlie
Speaker 15: monks and very spiritual folks, and that's pretty much, uh
Speaker 15: path that I would love to take. If I choice,
Speaker 15: I would have been in the Shanin Temple, like just training.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you have a.
Speaker 7: Usually just bought a pet I do, like pitbull labrador
Speaker 7: mixed a little baby named Shain.
Speaker 15: Young animal.
Speaker 5: Nin you know that's dope.
Speaker 7: What what like the principles that they teach in that uh,
Speaker 7: what if any have you applied that to your music career?
Speaker 7: Like how do they mirror each other in any way?
Speaker 15: Well, mainly being like water, you know as in keeping
Speaker 15: a flow, you know, never never locking yourself into a
Speaker 15: corner like this bottle. It's filled with water. The water
Speaker 15: can't go anywhere else. If you put a hole in here,
Speaker 15: it's out and it keeps going wherever it wants to go.
Speaker 15: It just you know, and and always not to be
Speaker 15: never get phased by things. You know, And that's pretty
Speaker 15: much one of the main things where if you take
Speaker 15: that and apply it, it leads you to a lot
Speaker 15: of other aspects of it as well.
Speaker 7: Got you uh, at the beginning of the interview, I,
Speaker 7: you know, referred to you as being you know, royalty,
Speaker 7: and that certainly is no you know, no overstatement.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 7: He is Daniel, your dad, Ziggy Ziggy Marley, who is
Speaker 7: of course the sun Uh, legendary Bob Marley. When you
Speaker 7: talk about being like water and you know you do
Speaker 7: not want to be restricted. Was there every point in
Speaker 7: your life where you felt like being a son of
Speaker 7: such luminaries? Did you almost kind of feel like at
Speaker 7: times that like, man, I have to do music, like
Speaker 7: I have no other choice doing anything else?
Speaker 15: Well, I have no other choice because this is what
Speaker 15: I'm good at. It's not really you know, we tried
Speaker 15: a couple other things. Try to go to school, you know,
Speaker 15: you know what I'm saying, Like got picked out of that.
Speaker 15: You know, it wasn't for me. The school thing.
Speaker 5: What were you going to for?
Speaker 15: I was going to school for music production and music
Speaker 15: orchestra orchestral music. I was really into classical and I
Speaker 15: wanted to basically just like take courses in that lane
Speaker 15: and learn how how that world went. And it just
Speaker 15: didn't work out.
Speaker 5: You know, I didn't. It didn't work out.
Speaker 15: I couldn't afford the tuition man financial aid. They won't
Speaker 15: give me financial aid because of what you said earlier.
Speaker 5: They see that fast.
Speaker 15: You don't need no financial I'm like, yeah, I'm trying
Speaker 15: to go to school. Yeah, but life is what it is,
Speaker 15: you know. I grew up with my mom, so it's
Speaker 15: a different it's a different thing. So the whole royalty
Speaker 15: side of it, you know, I look up to my
Speaker 15: granddad and my old man for what they're doing, what
Speaker 15: they do, what he's doing right now, what my granddad
Speaker 15: has done. But like my granddad does not. He never
Speaker 15: think of hisself in that way. And that's where I
Speaker 15: take Like, when I talk about music and the whole mission,
Speaker 15: I go from his perspective. I don't really go from
Speaker 15: the perspective of after his death and what people perceived,
Speaker 15: you know, I kind of still listen to his words
Speaker 15: and understand that it's not about that you know, we
Speaker 15: grew up knowing it's not about that. Some of us,
Speaker 15: me and my sister. That was the lessons we grew
Speaker 15: up with. You know, it was never a silver spoon thing.
Speaker 15: I grew up around studios, but they weren't. You couldn't
Speaker 15: just use the studio, you really you had to be good,
Speaker 15: you know what I mean, Like you had to first
Speaker 15: learn how to wrap the cables up, you know what
Speaker 15: I mean like all of that. Yeah you are, Yeah,
Speaker 15: pretty much like you couldn't use the studio just because
Speaker 15: and so and that was my uncle Steven growing me
Speaker 15: like that and pretty much grew around him uncle Damien
Speaker 15: in Florida, and you know it was like that.
Speaker 5: So were you raised and where were you?
Speaker 15: I was raised in Jamaica. I moved to moved to
Speaker 15: Miami when I was fifteen. Oh okay, right, So I
Speaker 15: lived in Florida from fifteen to like i'd say, twenty one,
Speaker 15: and then I went to La So is.
Speaker 5: That where you are now right now? In La Now?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Yeah, man's that's so dope to hear you say about
Speaker 7: how you know, uh, you know, before you get in
Speaker 7: the studio you had to wrap the cables up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like learning that.
Speaker 15: Yeah, really you got to appreciate all parts of it
Speaker 15: in order to really be about it. And I'm very
Speaker 15: passionate about it. So I do want to know how
Speaker 15: to do it, and I do it a lot. A
Speaker 15: lot of the things I do is by myself. So
Speaker 15: I'm home and I you know, I hooked my whole
Speaker 15: plug up, plug up everything. You know, I break it
Speaker 15: down when I need to, But I record my self
Speaker 15: all instruments usually, And that's really where it came from.
Speaker 15: That teaching of starting from the ground is really what
Speaker 15: my whole passion in my life is about. Like we
Speaker 15: start from zero, you know, we don't start from He's
Speaker 15: Bob Marley's grandson. We start from this is Bambata. What
Speaker 15: are you going to do?
Speaker 5: Who are you? You know? What are you about? Are
Speaker 5: you good enough?
Speaker 15: You know what I'm saying? So totally and so from there,
Speaker 15: that's what I say.
Speaker 5: That's dope, man. Thanks When you start off.
Speaker 7: You know when you first started making your early record,
Speaker 7: First of all, how old were you when you first
Speaker 7: started recording?
Speaker 15: I'd say the first record I recorded, I was I'd
Speaker 15: say like eighteen, okay, yeah, was.
Speaker 5: That what records you did with your dad.
Speaker 15: No, I did that when I first got to La.
Speaker 15: So I was about twenty one when I did that,
Speaker 15: you know, And that happened right real random, you know
Speaker 15: what I'm saying, Like, I went to La. He lives
Speaker 15: in LA. I was in Miami, me and my sister
Speaker 15: for years and years. I want to let you go
Speaker 15: check him. He was like, oh, you want to do
Speaker 15: a song. I'm like, well, yeah, you know what I'm saying, Okay,
Speaker 15: why not? So then you know, he just asked me
Speaker 15: to write something down, like, you know, a little fifteen minute.
Speaker 15: I wrote a verse, did it, and I just went
Speaker 15: back to the crib.
Speaker 5: And that was it.
Speaker 7: That was just wow, Yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 7: So like with when you were working with your dad,
Speaker 7: you know, keeping you know, that spirit of you know
Speaker 7: how you're saying, just having to kind of work your
Speaker 7: way up. What was it like for you when when
Speaker 7: he was that kind of it was definitely kind of
Speaker 7: like no sign. It was to me, it was like,
Speaker 7: you know, this is a good time. Let's let's do
Speaker 7: this right now. It's a good time.
Speaker 19: No.
Speaker 15: I don't look for validation from family members. I'm really
Speaker 15: looking for y'all to like my stuff. You know, no,
Speaker 15: they could like it too, but that's my family. But
Speaker 15: really it's about the people, you know, the people. It's like,
Speaker 15: we can't hate him.
Speaker 3: Yesterday we had smashing hearts here and they're like the
Speaker 3: sons of Dwayne Wiggins, Tony. We're saying that Raphael is
Speaker 3: a dee and are very hard on us.
Speaker 15: Yeah, you know, it's not an easy thing when you
Speaker 15: come from a family of music, right, you know, it's
Speaker 15: the pressure is applied. You know, you really have to
Speaker 15: live up to certain things. But I don't put that
Speaker 15: pressure on myself because I don't even do the same
Speaker 15: sound like. You know, I'm a different being. I have
Speaker 15: I have different dreams because of how I grew up,
Speaker 15: and so the things that I'm looking to do and
Speaker 15: looking for are a little bit different than that.
Speaker 5: What is it that you're looking for? Like, what are
Speaker 5: your goal?
Speaker 15: Respect in music? First? This is a big deal. I
Speaker 15: feel like a lot of people have to appreciate when
Speaker 15: someone really is doing it. We have a lot of
Speaker 15: cats that just do things, but some folks are actually
Speaker 15: doing it. They live it every day, you know, they
Speaker 15: want to get better every day. There's not a day
Speaker 15: that goes by where I'm not practicing something or trying
Speaker 15: to learn something new. When it comes to the guitar, drums, vocals,
Speaker 15: just always push myself. It's never like, yeah, I'm just
Speaker 15: going chill and then I'm gonna go to the studio.
Speaker 15: You know what I'm saying. Every day we're at it
Speaker 15: like yo, we gotta write a better song. Let's keep pushing.
Speaker 15: So that that coming from the family like that too,
Speaker 15: is a part of that where it makes you, you know,
Speaker 15: hungry for it.
Speaker 7: Do you record with when you say you know you're
Speaker 7: working every day and it's really dope to hear that
Speaker 7: you record yourself because that's something that I think a
Speaker 7: lot of artists, maybe a little bit more now they
Speaker 7: do it because you know, you can actually have a
Speaker 7: studio at home and get right down. But it's still,
Speaker 7: you know, you don't see too too many guys that
Speaker 7: really take the time to learn that stuff. Do you
Speaker 7: collaborate mainly, you know with a band? Do you you
Speaker 7: say you play I'll.
Speaker 15: Play like our program. Before before I started writing lyrics
Speaker 15: or singing or rapping, I used to just spell beats
Speaker 15: so I would make beats using reasons and drum machine,
Speaker 15: you know, so we just made beats. At first, it
Speaker 15: was just all producing stuff. So I grew up producing
Speaker 15: playing piano a bit. I don't know it like that,
Speaker 15: I really know the drums. I grew up playing the drums,
Speaker 15: and I picked up the guitar. Like I'd say from
Speaker 15: this point four years ago, three years ago, because I
Speaker 15: went on a small tour. I had a dream, literal
Speaker 15: sleep and had a dream like, yo, take all the
Speaker 15: money you make from this run, go buy yourself a
Speaker 15: guitar and start writing a whole bunch of different songs
Speaker 15: based on what was happening. Is like I was doing
Speaker 15: a lot of hip hop, but when you put it
Speaker 15: out on a SoundCloud, people could take. They just take,
Speaker 15: you know what I'm saying. So I had to add
Speaker 15: situations where my music was just being taken and.
Speaker 7: So and this is like full songs with vocals and
Speaker 7: everything on it, Like yeah, like somebody will take the hook,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: Like you know, and I mean they'll do it on
Speaker 7: the same beat, you know, because that's what you could
Speaker 7: do when you're talking about mixtape stuff, you know. And
Speaker 7: then I realized, like I have more love for this,
Speaker 7: so I have to do something that you can't just
Speaker 7: RecA you can't just take it. And so I got
Speaker 7: the guitar and I just started teaching myself how to
Speaker 7: play and just started writing different songs, songs that you know,
Speaker 7: everything came came more from inside because when you have
Speaker 7: that connection to a live instrument, you can find more
Speaker 7: things inside of yourself.
Speaker 15: You know, it's so much more so that that helped.
Speaker 5: That's what happened.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, when you we were I was looking online.
Speaker 7: We were like trying to find some music and what's
Speaker 7: the status of everything? Are you working on an album
Speaker 7: when you just have stuff like on soundclouds?
Speaker 15: So right now the album, the album is about i'd
Speaker 15: say ninety five percent finish. There's a few things I
Speaker 15: want to record while I'm out here, just to seal
Speaker 15: it up, but the album is pretty much ready. It's
Speaker 15: called UNX and the definition at this point is unknown.
Speaker 15: That's the definition. I feel like we searched the things
Speaker 15: we don't know in life. That's what we're all, you know,
Speaker 15: that's what we do. We're like, Yo, we don't know this,
Speaker 15: so we're gonna learn it. We don't know this, so
Speaker 15: we're gonna you know what, I mean, so I call
Speaker 15: it unknown based on that that drive of seeking. You know,
Speaker 15: why are we here? What's my point?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 15: Am I doing what I'm supposed to be doing and
Speaker 15: really being connected to yourself to know if you're on
Speaker 15: the right track?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 15: So I call it the unknown and it's basically open
Speaker 15: space of unlimited possibilities. That's what the unknown is.
Speaker 7: Was there a moment with where you realize like or
Speaker 7: I mean, do you still do you maybe kind of oscillate?
Speaker 7: Do you when you feel like, yo, I'm on the
Speaker 7: right track, Like, I know this is where I'm posting.
Speaker 15: I'm definitely on the right track right now. The music
Speaker 15: that's coming out, the things I'm talking about and singing
Speaker 15: are really really powerful to me. And you know, to
Speaker 15: the close friends around who know it, you know, they
Speaker 15: give you, they'll give you more insurance, you know, your people,
Speaker 15: you know. But definitely I'm on the right track for sure.
Speaker 15: Come in here to play this gigas is the craziest thing,
Speaker 15: you know, Well is that? Like, I mean true? Yeah,
Speaker 15: it's the first show like this, you know. First that's
Speaker 15: like in terms of in terms of in this vein,
Speaker 15: you know, in this lane of where what I'm trying
Speaker 15: to do. You know, this is pretty much like, Yo,
Speaker 15: this is what I'm trying to do. I played, I
Speaker 15: played a lot of shows. It's mainly reggae shows based
Speaker 15: on the name, you know, but this shows what you
Speaker 15: want to Yeah, it's based on the music. Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 15: It's like this is the sound. It is a lot
Speaker 15: of different things. It's not one thing. There's influences of
Speaker 15: all types of music within it. But it's it's not reggae.
Speaker 15: You know, it's not pop. It's not just hip hop.
Speaker 15: You know, it's it's rockets. So you know, it's funkus,
Speaker 15: R and b's jazz.
Speaker 7: I heard, Yeah, I was surprised because I didn't because
Speaker 7: I was walking up and I caught like maybe the
Speaker 7: last five ten minutes said, because I was we had
Speaker 7: to come up here to set up. And so I
Speaker 7: was walking in and I saw it. I was like, well,
Speaker 7: who's that on? And so I looked at the schedule,
Speaker 7: I was like, oh that's I was like, oh wow,
Speaker 7: that's and so you know, I saw you. I was like, man, like,
Speaker 7: it sounded really dope from here I was. But I
Speaker 7: had to come up and you know, get to work
Speaker 7: for us.
Speaker 5: But we're coming.
Speaker 7: Man, I had to get up so but but but no, man,
Speaker 7: it's sounds.
Speaker 15: Did you was the thing to come upstairs?
Speaker 5: Many? Because there was? I'm sure it was like real life.
Speaker 15: You're right right, That's why the name thing, you know,
Speaker 15: I kind of that's why my name is African. You know,
Speaker 15: by the African name.
Speaker 2: You know, you better go straight by to know Daniel
Speaker 2: Marley at all.
Speaker 15: Or yeah, it's my sound. It's me, you know, and
Speaker 15: you know you get to know me. You know that
Speaker 15: this this is him.
Speaker 5: How did you choose?
Speaker 15: That's my name? Like birth name, it's my middle name.
Speaker 2: See y'all like Margaret, She's like yeah. Another one.
Speaker 7: One of the things I think is dope about uh,
Speaker 7: the younger generation. You know when you say that your
Speaker 7: music is not just reggae, you know, it's a mixture
Speaker 7: of a lot of things.
Speaker 5: Uh. The thing about the younger.
Speaker 7: Generation, I think is that you guys seem to be
Speaker 7: open to a lot more indeed, a lot more music.
Speaker 7: And I think, you know, I have a son that's fifteen,
Speaker 7: and he listens to everything. And I think largely in
Speaker 7: part because that generation now like there they can get
Speaker 7: everything for free, I mean everything they can just go
Speaker 7: to YouTube and look up whatever genre they want. Did
Speaker 7: you feel any kind of pushback from anyone.
Speaker 5: That you know?
Speaker 7: You said, you do the reggae festivals, but this is
Speaker 7: kind of where you want be. Do you feel me
Speaker 7: pushback from people felt you should be doing more traditional everybody.
Speaker 15: A lot of people, once they first hear about me,
Speaker 15: they think I should only play reggae. I actually don't
Speaker 15: play any at all. I have some songs that are
Speaker 15: out from before, but everything I create it's just what
Speaker 15: I feel, you know, And I can't really I'm never
Speaker 15: gonna just feel what somebody else felt and do it,
Speaker 15: you know. And so this music that's coming out of
Speaker 15: me right now is how I feel. It is what
Speaker 15: I feel. I can do a reggae song in ten years.
Speaker 15: You know, you got people doing reggae songs right now,
Speaker 15: Drake and stuff. You know, people it's not about but
Speaker 15: it's how I feel. And that's my goal is to
Speaker 15: really put my feeling on wax and get it out there,
Speaker 15: you know, and try to have people. I know, people
Speaker 15: feel the same way. We're singing about real things, you know,
Speaker 15: We're singing about life like there's nothing that you didn't
Speaker 15: go through that I'm not singing about.
Speaker 7: And so, yeah, talk to me about some of your
Speaker 7: hip hop influences. I was reading about you, and I
Speaker 7: was like, man, like this kid, like really you know
Speaker 7: nas and you you had like a lot.
Speaker 15: Of Yeah, you know, as far as hip hop goes,
Speaker 15: it's like mainly East Coast for me, you know, Big
Speaker 15: L Guru, I usually wake up, I wake up, I
Speaker 15: wake up?
Speaker 5: How did you? Okay, okay, just listen. You're how old?
Speaker 5: How old are you?
Speaker 15: Twenty seven?
Speaker 5: You're twenty seven? Okay, Big L? How did you?
Speaker 15: How that happened? Just based on I love old school rap.
Speaker 15: I love old school hip hop. For me, music like
Speaker 15: like Jamaica and hip hop has a great relationship based
Speaker 15: on the starting of hip hop. You know, cool her
Speaker 15: coming through right exactly. So with that and and that
Speaker 15: knowledge is the knowledge I use and take and applied
Speaker 15: to my music where it's like we can do that.
Speaker 15: It's all that reggae music is influenced by everything else too.
Speaker 15: That was happening James Brown Beatles, you know, the rock era,
Speaker 15: like it's all that come by, and then the Island flavor,
Speaker 15: which is you know, that's the feeling of the people,
Speaker 15: that's how they feel, and so that's why that is
Speaker 15: a different sound. But it's all music is all from
Speaker 15: it's all parts, you know, every genre is here for
Speaker 15: us to use. And like when you were saying about
Speaker 15: your son being able to have access to any type
Speaker 15: of music, any sound he wants to put inside his brain,
Speaker 15: is really an evolution that we're going through as people musicians,
Speaker 15: you know, where you can't be blocked off because the
Speaker 15: world is so much bigger for us right now. You know,
Speaker 15: it's only natural that we're gonna apply. You know, it's
Speaker 15: like without without internet, all right, maybe you'll do what
Speaker 15: it's only happening in your community because that's what you got,
Speaker 15: that's what you know, that's where you are. But you
Speaker 15: have the whole world right now, so it's like, why
Speaker 15: why stop?
Speaker 5: Why stop?
Speaker 7: We live from Bruce Picnic here in New York City,
Speaker 7: So if you hear any noise, it's just me and
Speaker 7: the boys getting it all right now, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 5: I'm so happy. It's funny. Me and his brother know a.
Speaker 7: Lot of the same people's ran a lot of the
Speaker 7: same circles, but this is actually our first time meeting
Speaker 7: face to face and it's crazy. Uh, this brother is
Speaker 7: one of the the I would say, the the next
Speaker 7: school or the of Philly MC's.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 7: When I was coming up, you know, I was listening
Speaker 7: to you know, just the Ogs three times, the cool
Speaker 7: see Steady, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Of course, schooly d of course.
Speaker 7: And uh then once I guess college, Uh, this was
Speaker 7: when you know, the rock took over and really it
Speaker 7: was Philly that.
Speaker 2: Was on the back of Philly.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like totally. And you know, and this brother was
Speaker 7: a cat. I always admired. He always had just really
Speaker 7: unconventional rhyme schemes, kind of unconventional in the way that
Speaker 7: he would kind of wrap around his rhymes, like he
Speaker 7: would start with one bar and then go on that
Speaker 7: for a little while, but then break off and then
Speaker 7: go back to another one, kind of like a boomerang
Speaker 7: kind of thing. And I always thought that was really dope. Yeah, man,
Speaker 7: And I'm such an honor to happen here with us
Speaker 7: to days. And gentleman, give it up for my man's
Speaker 7: freeway on question, how you feel man?
Speaker 5: How was it? How did it go today?
Speaker 25: Oh? Man, I feel great, man, It's wonderful experience. Man,
Speaker 25: you know, shout out Thereek, you know for bringing me out.
Speaker 9: He was on stage.
Speaker 25: We just performed did a legendary cipher with all legends. Man,
Speaker 25: I'm still caught up in a moment right now. It
Speaker 25: was me, it was Black Thought, it was Smith and Wesson,
Speaker 25: it was Big Daddy King, it was oh my god,
Speaker 25: it was Royce five now wow, Pharaoh Munch and we
Speaker 25: were and were.
Speaker 9: Stuck in and we at the end we did it.
Speaker 25: We did a cipher to the symphony. Coolie Rat came
Speaker 25: and Craigey kicked the original verses.
Speaker 14: Wow, Okay, I'm.
Speaker 9: Over here. I don't know what y'all doing over here.
Speaker 9: What y'all missed it?
Speaker 5: We're over here failing at life. Apparently we don't know
Speaker 5: what Welcome to quest supream. That's dope, man, that's really dope.
Speaker 25: I was happy birthday, Black Thought many and I want
Speaker 25: to take my hat off to him because the brother
Speaker 25: really put it together, and he had the most craziest
Speaker 25: job because he did versus like before before we did
Speaker 25: the actual cipher. He bought each of us out and
Speaker 25: we did some of our records and he like actually
Speaker 25: did a couple verses to each person's record.
Speaker 9: And that's hard.
Speaker 25: You know, it's hard enough just remembering your own ship,
Speaker 25: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: So because then that man, hats off to that man.
Speaker 7: One of the greatest, one of the greatest. Definitely one
Speaker 7: thing I wanted to wrap about. Man. It was it
Speaker 7: was interesting. I had was doing some work. This is
Speaker 7: a couple of years back. Uh, my man, brother I leave.
Speaker 7: Rom says, yeah. Man and me and him, we actually
Speaker 7: toured together, the first Little Brother tour that we went
Speaker 7: on with Hieroglyphics.
Speaker 5: We toured. Uh. We did a couple of dates with
Speaker 5: Brother a Lee in the atmosphere.
Speaker 7: And so he was telling me at the time, he
Speaker 7: was like, Yo, man, I got this new record about
Speaker 7: to come out with Freeway.
Speaker 5: She's gonna be crazy. I was like, well, we didn't
Speaker 5: take ship. It's gonna be crazy because he don't.
Speaker 7: Brother Ali is like the coolest, like most is in
Speaker 7: like dude ever.
Speaker 5: But he was like, yo, it's crazy. He's like I
Speaker 5: got to join. I was like cool.
Speaker 7: And so later out it came out. It was the record,
Speaker 7: the truth. It was the truth record. It was talk
Speaker 7: to me about that with you and being with Rom says,
Speaker 7: I thought it was so dope. How someone like you
Speaker 7: that was on you know, the rock and like was
Speaker 7: on like that major major you know label could then
Speaker 7: fuck with someone like ry Sayers. That's like yo, for
Speaker 7: those who don't know Rhyme Sayers is like a great experience.
Speaker 25: Great experience working with them. Man, you know, they really
Speaker 25: care about the music. You know, me and Jake put
Speaker 25: the album together, and it's like a critically claimed album,
Speaker 25: like everybody let the album. And you know, when a
Speaker 25: whole rock split up came, I just went back to
Speaker 25: what I normally do, and that's worked hard, you know
Speaker 25: what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: I was trying whatever I could do.
Speaker 25: Like before I did the project with Jake One and
Speaker 25: rom Sais, I did something called Month of Madness where
Speaker 25: I dropped a record every day for the whole month.
Speaker 25: Like I just went hard. Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 25: I'm like, man, I can't go back to doing what
Speaker 25: I was doing before this, so I gotta go hard.
Speaker 25: And you know, by the grace of God, I've been
Speaker 25: able to maintain a successful career throughout the whole time
Speaker 25: I've been doing it.
Speaker 5: So what blessed a transition?
Speaker 7: Like, man, going from you know when you say, like
Speaker 7: once the Rock split up and then saying, Okay, well
Speaker 7: I got.
Speaker 5: To go back to doing what it is I normally do.
Speaker 7: What is that transition like going from working like being
Speaker 7: with the major to then kind of being more independent
Speaker 7: than having to do things on your own.
Speaker 5: What was that a big transition for?
Speaker 9: I mean, everybody can't do it, like you know, a lot.
Speaker 5: Of people didn't. A lot of people could get.
Speaker 9: Fucked up in the head.
Speaker 25: But you gotta understand where I'm coming from and the
Speaker 25: type of person that I am.
Speaker 9: Like in the middle of.
Speaker 25: Me being super successful, like in the middle of rock
Speaker 25: the Mic, what we do when them Jonkers getting like
Speaker 25: five thousand spinds a week. I went to Mecca, I
Speaker 25: went to Saudi Arabia, made my pilgrimage. I went with
Speaker 25: like twenty o her brothers. I was sleeping on the floor.
Speaker 25: I was doing everything everybody else was doing. So just
Speaker 25: taking that trip in general, just getting here. It takes
Speaker 25: a lot of patients because we had to switch a
Speaker 25: couple of flights. We had to wait in the airport
Speaker 25: six seven hours, like you know. So I'm used to
Speaker 25: having patients and dealing with certain situations, So when a
Speaker 25: breakup first happened, it probably took me like a couple
Speaker 25: of weeks just to get myself together and just dig
Speaker 25: what's really going on with everything. And then I just
Speaker 25: went back to what I normally do, and that's worked
Speaker 25: hard and grind, you know.
Speaker 9: So I'm still here.
Speaker 5: Man, you know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I wanted to speak with you. I was this
Speaker 7: was I mean a couple I was reading on. It
Speaker 7: might have been on an Okay player, I believe, or
Speaker 7: I might be an okay player. In terms of your
Speaker 7: health right now with your kidneys, speak to us a
Speaker 7: little bit about that, what kind of led to it
Speaker 7: and how was that changed life.
Speaker 25: On September of twenty fifteen, I was diagnosed with in
Speaker 25: stage renal failure that's kidney fire. So as of right now,
Speaker 25: I gotta do dialysis three times a week, four hours
Speaker 25: a day. I'm actually active on a transplant list, so
Speaker 25: they could call me any time with a new kidney
Speaker 25: and I gotta go to the hospital and they gonna
Speaker 25: do the operation. Just like with the Rock break up,
Speaker 25: Like when it first happened, fucked me up. I got
Speaker 25: the call from my doctor. It was like, you need
Speaker 25: to get to the emergency room right now. So the
Speaker 25: first thing I did, you know, I'm a devote Muslim,
Speaker 25: So the first thing I did was I went to
Speaker 25: the mass jed. I prayed, asked God to help me
Speaker 25: deal with whatever the situation is is. I didn't really
Speaker 25: know to what extent it was, you know. I did that,
Speaker 25: went to the hospital. They diagnosed me with kidney failure.
Speaker 25: That day, they kept my chest open, put a cafe
Speaker 25: in my chest, and the next day I was doing
Speaker 25: dialysis and I've been doing it ever since then. Any differences. Now,
Speaker 25: I got a fistula in my arm, which is when
Speaker 25: they take your main vein from the bottom of your
Speaker 25: arm and bring it up to the top of your
Speaker 25: arm so they can access it. Then they tie the
Speaker 25: artery off and that's how they access my dialysis.
Speaker 9: They put two needles in each in my arm. Each
Speaker 9: time I go.
Speaker 25: One needle drains the blood out, putting the machine cleans
Speaker 25: the blood, and the other needle pumps the blood back in.
Speaker 9: It's a four hour process and everything is going good,
Speaker 9: you know.
Speaker 25: So, but what led up to it was in like
Speaker 25: twenty twelve, eyes diagnosed with high blood pressure and diabetes
Speaker 25: with your two of the leading risk factors for kidney failure.
Speaker 9: I actually have three risk factors.
Speaker 25: One is being African American, the other is high blood pressure.
Speaker 9: The other is diabetes.
Speaker 25: You know, so anybody out there to have any of
Speaker 25: those risk factors, just being black is.
Speaker 5: A risk factor.
Speaker 9: So you need to keyboard with your routine physicals.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 25: Make sure you see the doctor at least once a year,
Speaker 25: check get checked up. And you know, because once I
Speaker 25: was diagnosed with high blood pressure and diabetes. I took
Speaker 25: it serious in the beginning, but just like with everything else,
Speaker 25: you know, as time passes, you tend to like not
Speaker 25: pay as much attention to it, Like I was taking
Speaker 25: my medicine. But then I remember, like when I first
Speaker 25: got on, when I first got it, I was like,
Speaker 25: I remember one day I went to go see beans
Speaker 25: and beans beans. He got high blood pressure and diabetes.
Speaker 9: Also he was eating a cheese steak. I'm like, what
Speaker 9: you're doing, steak?
Speaker 5: Cheese steak.
Speaker 9: Like three months later, I was eating cheese steaks.
Speaker 25: So you know, it's just about being aware and standing
Speaker 25: and staying on point and you know, taking care of
Speaker 25: yourself and keeping up with your routine physical.
Speaker 5: That's dope, man.
Speaker 7: In terms of like during you know, because I mean
Speaker 7: being MCS, anyone, not just MCS, but being anyone working
Speaker 7: in the business will tell you traveling is like the
Speaker 7: biggest diet killer. Like anything you're trying to do right,
Speaker 7: being on the road just fucks that up.
Speaker 25: Come, I'm gonna tell you some real shit, like when
Speaker 25: we like with the first tour, first couple of tours
Speaker 25: with Jay.
Speaker 9: Jay was eating crab cakes, fish sticks. I'm not even
Speaker 9: paying attention.
Speaker 25: I'm fucking burgers up steaks, eating whatever I want. Like, man,
Speaker 25: I'm telling you better eat right, and you know you
Speaker 25: see what happens. Man, You know you it's more than
Speaker 25: just rat. You gotta take care of everything. You gotta
Speaker 25: make sure everything is up the park.
Speaker 5: Man. That's how it is with you.
Speaker 7: Do you have a family like kids, wife, Yeah, yep.
Speaker 25: Yep, everything, family, kids, everything, two kids fifteen and sixteen.
Speaker 9: Oh wow, you know so they well.
Speaker 3: Aware it was dope children too, winning awards and what Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 5: Know, brag on your children.
Speaker 25: Please my daughter, you know she she women was that
Speaker 25: like last year of the year before she won the
Speaker 25: award for for a poem that she made and like
Speaker 25: she uh, she read the poem like in front of
Speaker 25: the commissioner and the marror and a bunch of different
Speaker 25: people in the city, which was real good for me.
Speaker 25: And she get good, great grades in school, like you know,
Speaker 25: so I'm very proud of her. My son, you know,
Speaker 25: her a little knucklehead, but he tries be you know,
Speaker 25: he trying to do his rap thing too, so you know,
Speaker 25: I let him do his thing a little bit.
Speaker 7: Does he like, are your kids because you know, we
Speaker 7: asked a lot of guests that have kids. You know,
Speaker 7: I have boys myself. I was fifteen and ten. Do
Speaker 7: they know like who their dad is or they aware.
Speaker 9: They've been they've been aware.
Speaker 2: It's not a choice.
Speaker 9: You gotta think about what we do.
Speaker 25: They was on my lap in that joint, so you
Speaker 25: know they they already was gone.
Speaker 9: We'll see my son. You can't tell him he in
Speaker 9: a star.
Speaker 5: Oh wow?
Speaker 7: So he do they like come to you for like
Speaker 7: your son? You know you say he wants to rap?
Speaker 7: Does he come to you for advice or does he.
Speaker 25: Look at you like he do now? Like he tried
Speaker 25: to do his thing on his own in the beginning,
Speaker 25: like you know, he was he was making a look
Speaker 25: like his homies love his music and everybody like his
Speaker 25: little friends love his music.
Speaker 9: But you know, I know how to do it, and
Speaker 9: I know you know the.
Speaker 25: Route that you gotta take and everything you gotta do.
Speaker 25: And he tried not to listen to me in the beginning,
Speaker 25: but now you know he on point.
Speaker 5: He learned, He learned. That's dope. Man.
Speaker 9: You know, kids think they know everything.
Speaker 25: I'm like, man, I'm a whole successful role model and
Speaker 25: you're talking about you think you know.
Speaker 5: More than me. I like that. There's always one good
Speaker 5: one in one knucklehead. It doesn't matter what there's two,
Speaker 5: there's always yeah.
Speaker 7: Because your daughter is like you got one daughter that's
Speaker 7: like the cool daughter and then the other one's knucklehead.
Speaker 5: That's a great word. What is That's what's up?
Speaker 13: Man?
Speaker 5: That's up?
Speaker 7: So in terms of right now, what what are you
Speaker 7: working on? What's coming up?
Speaker 9: All right now?
Speaker 25: You know, I got a new situation on the table
Speaker 25: that I'm working out, which is gonna be great for
Speaker 25: me and for hip hop.
Speaker 2: So something looks laid.
Speaker 25: Something something to look forward to, something I'm very excited about.
Speaker 25: You know, you know, I just you know, since my
Speaker 25: situation instead of like hot in what I'm going through,
Speaker 25: I chose to stand in front of it.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 25: So I've been doing a lot of work with different
Speaker 25: kidney foundations. In March tenth, for twenty sixteen, I was
Speaker 25: a ordered the Patient Advocacy Award by the National Kidney Foundation,
Speaker 25: which was great for me, you know, at the.
Speaker 5: D n C this year.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I was at the d n C this year.
Speaker 9: I just just was at the White House last week.
Speaker 3: Wowal Museum African American No.
Speaker 25: I was there for the Actually they actually did a
Speaker 25: health summit, Millennial Outreach Health Summit. It was last Tuesday,
Speaker 25: you know, so I uh participated in that.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 25: I just was with uh Michelle when she came to
Speaker 25: Philly last Wednesday, first name. You know, I was with
Speaker 25: Bill Clinton Made in America and I performed two days
Speaker 25: in a row in Maine in America too, which is
Speaker 25: a huge accomplishment for me. I actually performed Maine America
Speaker 25: exists for five years. I performed four out of the
Speaker 25: five years.
Speaker 3: For the first announcement of Made in America to Philadelphia,
Speaker 3: so as it should.
Speaker 9: Be, yes, sir.
Speaker 25: So you know, I'm just I'm just trying my best
Speaker 25: to do as much as I can and get act
Speaker 25: as much as I.
Speaker 9: Can, you know.
Speaker 7: So that's what I'm That's dope, man, that's dope.
Speaker 5: We for y'all.
Speaker 7: We appreciate you taking this time to come through man
Speaker 7: after the performance anytime, and chop it up with us.
Speaker 7: And I really salute you, just, you know, for everything
Speaker 7: you've done, and also just for like you said, getting
Speaker 7: in front of.
Speaker 5: You know, that health issue.
Speaker 7: You know, I've lost relatives to you know, diabetes and
Speaker 7: high blood pressure, and we've seen, particularly twenty sixteen, a
Speaker 7: lot of people going, yeah, rest in peace, fightd out
Speaker 7: and you know, man, just for you to be out
Speaker 7: there and to be an advocate for it and bring
Speaker 7: more awareness to it, and just to really you know,
Speaker 7: let brothers know. I mean, your health is something that
Speaker 7: is you know, that's everything.
Speaker 5: That's the basis.
Speaker 25: Yeah, you know it's important man, you know, because it's
Speaker 25: so many people is just unaware, you know, and awareness
Speaker 25: is the key.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 9: Like if I would have been aware of how serious.
Speaker 25: It was when I was diagnosed with high blood pressure
Speaker 25: and diabetes, I couldn't avoid getting getting Kenny Fuller because
Speaker 25: it was already.
Speaker 9: In a world.
Speaker 25: But I could have prolonged it, you know, if I
Speaker 25: would have been more aware of what was going on
Speaker 25: in my body. So awareness is the key man, you know,
Speaker 25: and just me being here and being able to perform
Speaker 25: for the people, and and just them seeing me out
Speaker 25: here still going hardest motivation. I just want people to
Speaker 25: know like, even though I have a disease, I have
Speaker 25: kidney failure, it's not a death sentence. I'm still living
Speaker 25: a productive life, still doing. Like I told you, I
Speaker 25: performed two days in a row Made in America, just
Speaker 25: shut it down at the Roof's picnic. If I never
Speaker 25: told y'all was sick, nobody would never know. And I'm
Speaker 25: about to go back to Philly six o'clock tomorrow morning.
Speaker 25: I'm right back on the Diallasi's machine.
Speaker 3: Take care of yourself because when you when you drop
Speaker 3: that Instagram with you in the hospital on the first day, I.
Speaker 2: Don't cry over Instagram. But the teachers was like, while
Speaker 2: it's free in the hospital.
Speaker 9: I'm good, I'm good. God willing not be here for
Speaker 9: a minute.
Speaker 5: That what's up?
Speaker 7: We all love you, brother, Thank you, pleasure me and
Speaker 7: YouTube Yeah sure, yeah for sure, and yo, thanks for
Speaker 7: coming through. And when you know, whenever you whenever your
Speaker 7: situation is final, you know that once it's done soon
Speaker 7: you gotta come back and.
Speaker 9: We can talk about I got problem.
Speaker 7: Lazy gentlemen, free way get it up. Yes all, it's
Speaker 7: a lazy.
Speaker 5: Gentlemen boys and girls.
Speaker 7: Give a big quest love supreme round applause to Easy
Speaker 7: Moore Breezy, the founders and creators of grits and biscuits.
Speaker 5: That's going on part.
Speaker 26: In this thing like a chicken wing on the string
Speaker 26: in the middle of the spring.
Speaker 7: Damn right listen, Okay, so okay, So there are three
Speaker 7: of you in this collective. Easy more Breeze is then
Speaker 7: able to collective and individually.
Speaker 5: It's also.
Speaker 7: Erica DJ squib is. Yes, sir, Okay, Erica. I'm gonna
Speaker 7: start with you because me and you have some some ties,
Speaker 7: uh in that you had the misfortune of going to
Speaker 7: North Carolina Anti State University, which is which is a
Speaker 7: great online college.
Speaker 5: I didn't even go to an T I went to
Speaker 5: another HBCU. But I'm gonna have to square.
Speaker 21: My partner like that, you know, appreciate.
Speaker 26: Just so you got your associates University of Phoenix.
Speaker 4: I was the.
Speaker 21: Carolina Central Central College, Central Central College.
Speaker 5: I got you go from Central and she's a. She's
Speaker 5: an They gave degrees then.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, all the division is stepping up. Yeah, man,
Speaker 7: but no, she's a she's a she's an age. I'm
Speaker 7: an eagle, So I give her a joke a little bit.
Speaker 7: I actually grew up like right down the street from.
Speaker 5: It was too much. It was just like, dude, I'm
Speaker 5: going to school in my back yard. I can't yet.
Speaker 7: I was at every homecoming up until I graduated.
Speaker 21: And you were there last year too.
Speaker 5: I was the last year I.
Speaker 2: Was when the last time you've been.
Speaker 5: I haven't been a Central home coming a long time
Speaker 5: because I'll be working.
Speaker 7: I'm always I'm always on tour, and so the one
Speaker 7: time I'm home and I go, I went to grits
Speaker 7: and biscuits.
Speaker 5: Let me, I wasn't at the homecoming.
Speaker 2: I don't even know who's at the game they played
Speaker 2: against Central?
Speaker 26: They did Central only played flag football.
Speaker 7: So all right, So all HBCU slander aside Erica. She
Speaker 7: is a graduate of North Carolina Anti State University. And
Speaker 7: you were, as I understand it, pretty much the kind
Speaker 7: of the creator.
Speaker 21: Oh no, it wasn't just me. It was definitely a
Speaker 21: collective unit. So okay, but we were all three of
Speaker 21: us were living in Brooklyn, but we're all from the
Speaker 21: South originally, and so the concept of the party really
Speaker 21: came up out of just a friendly friends first, a
Speaker 21: friendly conversation about at the time two thousand and nine, Yeah,
Speaker 21: you didn't hear a lot of Southern hip hop music
Speaker 21: the way you do now in New York, and at
Speaker 21: the time, the majority of the parties that we you know,
Speaker 21: you saw in New York were very different in that
Speaker 21: it was velvet rope and bottle service, and so we
Speaker 21: decided just to come together and throw one party for
Speaker 21: friends and a party we would want to go to.
Speaker 21: That was very reminiscent of the black college experience because
Speaker 21: we all went to HBCUs.
Speaker 7: Okay, so you went to you went to t Out,
Speaker 7: So where'd you go?
Speaker 5: Priview and m University?
Speaker 26: Right, that's where that's no. DJ Premier his pops was
Speaker 26: my dean of science.
Speaker 5: That are you serious?
Speaker 13: Me?
Speaker 5: And it was tight, that's dope, that's dope. Shout out
Speaker 5: DJ Premier.
Speaker 7: I'm working with him on the breaks right now, that's dope.
Speaker 7: And where'd you go when the fam.
Speaker 2: Okay common dropped out of there?
Speaker 5: Yep, no.
Speaker 7: Fam, Yeah, Fam, I think FAM. That was one of
Speaker 7: my choices.
Speaker 5: Actually it was. I was that you went to Central Central.
Speaker 3: What's funny Central my high school counselor, because I went
Speaker 3: to academic high school but I got real bad grades.
Speaker 3: And she was like, I said, so what colleges can
Speaker 3: I get into? And she was like, have you heard
Speaker 3: a Prairie View?
Speaker 5: I feel like that up here. No, seriously, I was.
Speaker 7: I was looking at FM and the reason why I
Speaker 7: wanted to go to FAM at the time it was
Speaker 7: it was it was the.
Speaker 9: Band and it was Luke.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I was a Loop.
Speaker 7: Fan and so kind of cap d coming come on
Speaker 7: what and so yeah, so as a kind of I
Speaker 7: guess as a partying gift. So I didn't go to Fan.
Speaker 7: But my first year at Central, our homecoming show was Luke.
Speaker 7: He came, he closed, and then they never let him
Speaker 7: come back.
Speaker 5: It was over.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like girls dancing, they were stripping and that was okay,
Speaker 7: just to show you, like how life can come at
Speaker 7: you fast.
Speaker 5: Okay. So this was ninety seven. Jay Z was there.
Speaker 5: This is jay Z.
Speaker 7: He performed at that homecoming show and he was just
Speaker 7: off of in My Lifetime Volume one. Volume one was
Speaker 7: out and so just to kind of show you how
Speaker 7: stuff we changed hip up. At the time, he wasn't
Speaker 7: even the guy. He was doing his show and it
Speaker 7: was cool. He brought out Aconnellynlly.
Speaker 5: Shut ship down. He bodied it, he did, but put
Speaker 5: it in your mouth to all of the people, to.
Speaker 7: Scott, to people, to to just those just now tuning in,
Speaker 7: to give you kind of the the lineage of the
Speaker 7: Southern in a tradition applied.
Speaker 5: To a number of black He said, apply.
Speaker 2: But back to you can lick it, you can stick it,
Speaker 2: you can yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this was Yeah.
Speaker 7: Jay Z was like the guy, but he wasn't the guy.
Speaker 7: Just then he was becoming the guy. So acon Nelly
Speaker 7: came in on his set, who was a rapper at
Speaker 7: the time, had a big hit put it in your
Speaker 7: mouth and also the B side fucked me for free.
Speaker 7: Another another another negro spiritual.
Speaker 5: Drake draken call, Oh that's right, it happen. That's right,
Speaker 5: that's right, you're right.
Speaker 7: So yeah man, but but yeah, so that was at
Speaker 7: the time my black college spirits. So so back to
Speaker 7: back to you guys with grits and biscuits. So you
Speaker 7: wanted to bring the black college experience to it was
Speaker 7: that that was where the idea came from, wanting to
Speaker 7: bring that kind.
Speaker 5: Of up here up north.
Speaker 26: Yeah, yeah, to a certain extent, like it was, you know,
Speaker 26: to Erica's point, it was like the bougie dress code,
Speaker 26: bottle service, sparklers, all that, you know, and if you
Speaker 26: were if you if you were there with your homeboy,
Speaker 26: you couldn't get in the club unless you had ten
Speaker 26: seemingly good looking girls, you know, seemingly unattracted women couldn't
Speaker 26: get in the club, you know. And then if you
Speaker 26: did get in and nobody was dancing, they in heels
Speaker 26: and dresses and stuff. And then the other extreme was
Speaker 26: like the super duper bohemian house parties, which is dope.
Speaker 26: You know, they playing Feliu, which is amazing, you know
Speaker 26: what I'm saying. And those are the folks that's in there.
Speaker 26: They you know, they're trying to save the world and
Speaker 26: all that, but every once in a while.
Speaker 5: We don't save it to night.
Speaker 26: You know, there's a lot of stress trying to save
Speaker 26: the world. So when sometimes we need to take a
Speaker 26: break and get loose, you know, and so we create
Speaker 26: you know, we created a party we want to go to.
Speaker 26: And who knew that other folks want to come to
Speaker 26: it too. And six years fast forward and we sitting
Speaker 26: here talking to y'all clowns.
Speaker 7: One of the things I think is so beautiful about
Speaker 7: you guys, party man is that, you know, a lot
Speaker 7: of times hip hop it gets the rep of you know,
Speaker 7: when you talk about the parties that win the city
Speaker 7: and you talk about how you know they would be
Speaker 7: very subtly racist ship that they would do like no
Speaker 7: ball caps, no like no hoodies, no hoodies, like you know,
Speaker 7: little shit that It's like, Okay, we know who the
Speaker 7: fuck y'all talking to.
Speaker 5: But you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: So, because there's this stigma that hip hop creates ute
Speaker 7: unquote violence, I would say, I've been to three of
Speaker 7: you guys parties, and this is a you know, Southern
Speaker 7: rap part so all the violence inciting rap songs so
Speaker 7: like a knuck if you buck, or like any club
Speaker 7: tet a club up, those songs go off and there
Speaker 7: has never been I've never seen any fight in the
Speaker 7: parties I've been through. There's never been any kind of foolishness.
Speaker 7: It's never been Just as you say, it's very much
Speaker 7: as a come as you are.
Speaker 5: I mean, it is a party.
Speaker 7: You can walk up in if you just got on
Speaker 7: your jeans and a T shirt, then you can rock
Speaker 7: like that. And it's the parties I've been to. There
Speaker 7: has never been just a more just easy going, just
Speaker 7: it's very familiar atmosphere and I really appreciate.
Speaker 5: You guys for doing that.
Speaker 7: When you first started off, What was it like trying
Speaker 7: to bring that here?
Speaker 5: Were in New York or in the North? Was it
Speaker 5: any difficulty with that?
Speaker 27: Erica is okay talk about that because they were trying
Speaker 27: to go to the different venues and getting no love.
Speaker 21: Yeah, no, I think at first it was just people
Speaker 21: weren't It was they didn't understand the concept. And then
Speaker 21: we also got the question like, are you guys party
Speaker 21: promoters in New York?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 21: No, were you guys throwing parties in New York before?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 21: So you know, really it was just like one venue,
Speaker 21: the guy was like, oh, I like your vibe, you know,
Speaker 21: we'll give you a shot. And the first party, they
Speaker 21: asked us before the doors opened, they were like, how
Speaker 21: many people you are going to show up? And we
Speaker 21: were like, we hope two hundred.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 21: The funny thing is the only thing we did to
Speaker 21: promote was we created a really fly flyer and we
Speaker 21: sent it out via email and then we announced it
Speaker 21: at our Bible study.
Speaker 7: You announced the party, no I, no I do? Okay, okay,
Speaker 7: So do we need to give the listeners some context?
Speaker 5: Probably?
Speaker 7: Okay, Bible study? Do I think to break down what
Speaker 7: Bible study?
Speaker 5: Jesus, We're good, all right, okay.
Speaker 7: So in the in the in the South, uh, there
Speaker 7: is you know, church folks. You know, there's this Saturday
Speaker 7: night is the club and then Sunday Sunday morning is church.
Speaker 7: Sunday morning, you pray with all the su you pray
Speaker 7: with all the rest is that you did the night before.
Speaker 7: And these audiences very much overlapped. So I mean, so
Speaker 7: that's I never would have thought of that.
Speaker 5: That's genius.
Speaker 7: That's almost like that's almost like on Breaking Bad when
Speaker 7: Jesse went to narcotics and to sell man.
Speaker 5: Wow, that is that is you know, did you just
Speaker 5: compare our guess you know, we ain't gonna tolerate too much.
Speaker 5: You know, this ship is a genius.
Speaker 7: I never would have thought because because seriously, no real
Speaker 7: most people wouldn't even say like the people that are
Speaker 7: like qute unquote church folk, they kind of keep that
Speaker 7: ship to the side.
Speaker 5: They don't say that.
Speaker 3: So no, don't as many people show up the Bible
Speaker 3: Study as they do the actual service. So that's interesting
Speaker 3: too because it's like, why not just you know, put it.
Speaker 14: This is what I'm curious, but this is this is
Speaker 14: very fascinating.
Speaker 21: This was it was a Bible study for young people,
Speaker 21: and so we announced it at the Bible Study and
Speaker 21: we also, you know, the first party, we said we'd
Speaker 21: have two hundred people. We were like, we'll do We're
Speaker 21: gonna do it like old school, like we did in college.
Speaker 21: We're gonna have first hour five dollars. After that it's
Speaker 21: ten dollars. We were like, for fun, we made church
Speaker 21: fans because we were like, we need to have things
Speaker 21: that represent the South. Had no signage, had no website,
Speaker 21: had no nothing, and this is all we did. And
Speaker 21: when they asked us how many people are gonna show,
Speaker 21: we said, hopefully two hundred.
Speaker 5: First people in the doorway the manager.
Speaker 26: We told that to the manager and the manager was like, yo,
Speaker 26: if you get two hundred people to hear, that would
Speaker 26: be amaze.
Speaker 21: And we were like, okay, hopefully and then doors open.
Speaker 21: First people at the party Bible Study yeah, wow, five dollars.
Speaker 21: And then by the end of the night there were
Speaker 21: like five hundred people the majority. We did not know
Speaker 21: when we realized that, and at the end they were
Speaker 21: asking when's the next one? When's the next one? We
Speaker 21: had no idea because we only planned for one.
Speaker 5: When I used to DJ, my my answer to that
Speaker 5: question was talk to the manager.
Speaker 26: Well, the manager was like, can y'all come back next week?
Speaker 26: We was like, whoa bro?
Speaker 5: Is it tiger? Easy?
Speaker 3: So are y'all somebody completely different in the daytime or
Speaker 3: were y'all somebody still?
Speaker 5: Yeah? We all have we all have jobs. This is
Speaker 5: what are your What are your day jobs? What are you?
Speaker 5: I work at rock Nation?
Speaker 21: Okay, I work at Viacom.
Speaker 5: These day jobs are amazing.
Speaker 26: And you I'm advertising for talk for and I teached
Speaker 26: for lots of fell Wow. I teached philosophy at the
Speaker 26: college in New Rochhale Brooklyn Campus.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, I'm an adjunct professor.
Speaker 2: What a essence? A marked article?
Speaker 5: That's dope?
Speaker 7: So so d square is with you as a DJ?
Speaker 7: Was this your how long? How long you been DJing?
Speaker 27: Was this your I was fifteen or sixteen years?
Speaker 5: Oh wow?
Speaker 27: Okay, to stay out of trouble thanks to so Actually,
Speaker 27: my brother.
Speaker 5: I always got like real brothers.
Speaker 27: Like, okay, So I was like messing up in school
Speaker 27: and I met one of his friends and he taught
Speaker 27: me how to dj, and I wanted turntables bad. My
Speaker 27: mom was like, if you get your grades right, if
Speaker 27: you stopped acting up in school, you can get your turntables.
Speaker 27: And then my brother taught me how to dj. Once
Speaker 27: I got my turntable, so it was cool. So where
Speaker 27: you guys, where were you raised that? Where were all
Speaker 27: texas and texts?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 7: Oh wow, okay, yeah, gotch you got you gotcha.
Speaker 5: That's dope.
Speaker 7: So in terms of when you first started DJing, what
Speaker 7: kind of stuff were you first playing?
Speaker 5: Like, what was your first I.
Speaker 27: Was really in like early on, when I was like fifteen.
Speaker 27: I was really into like hip hop, hip hop, like
Speaker 27: sugar Hill Game, Grand Master Flash Run fifteen because my
Speaker 27: brother Beastie Boys, like Beastie Boys, Lords of the Underground Tribe,
Speaker 27: day so especially Daylight, so outcast for sure.
Speaker 14: So I was the older of the two. Yeah yeah, no,
Speaker 14: the trickle down effect that we're always talking yeah yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the older siblings a lot of times will set
Speaker 7: the tone and because what ma would be.
Speaker 5: Playing it out? Oh yeah, she was Luther Van Draws.
Speaker 27: And so my brother was raised in Florida while I
Speaker 27: was like until I was until I was nine. Then
Speaker 27: he moved to Texas to go to school. Okay, So
Speaker 27: from zero to nine it was Luther Van Drass, Anita Baker,
Speaker 27: Marvin Gaye like throughout the house. And then my brother
Speaker 27: was like, yo, you should listen to this hip hop thing.
Speaker 27: And I was like what he put it in? Like
Speaker 27: he was playing Lords of the Underground Tribe called quest.
Speaker 5: I was like, what is this? What is this? From there?
Speaker 5: Like took off?
Speaker 27: It took off and then like Chris Cross was like
Speaker 27: my favorite.
Speaker 14: Oh man, it's not no yo, Okay, Chriss Cross had jams.
Speaker 5: No they did.
Speaker 7: I missed the No, that's something again that she was
Speaker 7: so traumatic missing the bus because you were missing because
Speaker 7: what is you missed the bus? It was you miss
Speaker 7: it And then you know you got to go in
Speaker 7: and tell you she gotta take you to Now, I
Speaker 7: gotta go.
Speaker 5: Now, I go put on my house coat and take
Speaker 5: you to school. My mother wouldn't take me to school.
Speaker 21: She'd find a bus and drive around and city.
Speaker 5: Look at that bus. They go to your school. I
Speaker 5: like your mother. That's awesome. That's that's that's the kind
Speaker 5: of parandim.
Speaker 21: Wait where are you from North Carolina?
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's a men. I live in the city.
Speaker 7: I live in the city now that she was, she's
Speaker 7: from and she went to school where I was in Greensboro.
Speaker 5: So that's that's that's what's up. So this is.
Speaker 7: Going on six years and six years? What keep y'all in?
Speaker 7: This seems to be a recurring thing. Who else were
Speaker 7: talking to? Guess he was talking about how they kind
Speaker 7: of kept their day job until it was mom it
Speaker 7: was a moment another DJ. He was saying that, So
Speaker 7: when do you, guys, do you ever feel that you
Speaker 7: will one day say, okay, grits and biscuits one hundred percent,
Speaker 7: I'm leaving my day job. I'm leaving philosophy these kids.
Speaker 7: Do you ever do you ever feel that one day
Speaker 7: that one day y'all would just make the full leap
Speaker 7: into doing Christ and biscuits one hundred.
Speaker 5: That is the question.
Speaker 9: I don't know the job.
Speaker 7: I know, good job, I mean with benefits. Oh I
Speaker 7: got I got a cavity. I can go handle that.
Speaker 26: Yeah, I think I think if like it have to,
Speaker 26: we we expanded to something beyond grits and biscuits, because
Speaker 26: you know, to leave your job to just be a
Speaker 26: party promoter, that's not that's not how was raised.
Speaker 5: Real shit, that's really fun. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I was surprised because when I found out that you
Speaker 7: that you still do all this and still do a job.
Speaker 7: I mean, how do y'all find time for yourself? Like
Speaker 7: is there any personal time?
Speaker 5: Right? She was like, what is that? That's my job?
Speaker 27: Is kind of cool with it. They kind of see
Speaker 27: it as like an add on to like what I do.
Speaker 27: Gotcha is like you know when we when we throw
Speaker 27: on parties or doing stuff, it kind of gives me
Speaker 27: a name or a leverage when I'm talking to artists,
Speaker 27: like like I know how to sell out a venue
Speaker 27: because this is what we do with grits and biscuits.
Speaker 27: I know how to put on the performance because that's
Speaker 27: what we do with grits and biscuits. So when I
Speaker 27: talk to artists, they kind of see me as someone
Speaker 27: who has the knowledge already to kind of tell them
Speaker 27: nothing like a player coach type of thing.
Speaker 5: Totally totally what about your Erica?
Speaker 21: No, I mean, I definitely think the job I'm in now,
Speaker 21: I made it very clear from the beginning that this
Speaker 21: is what I do on the side, so they've been
Speaker 21: very understand I think, Yeah, I mean, it hasn't been
Speaker 21: as far as finding balance. I mean, you just have
Speaker 21: to force yourself to do it, you know, and sometimes
Speaker 21: it's you know, not going to be able to make
Speaker 21: every show. I mean, this is kind of a new
Speaker 21: reality as we continue to grow, and it's something that
Speaker 21: we haven't talked about before. But for me, like the
Speaker 21: role I play, I'm very much behind the scenes, and
Speaker 21: so if someone else is in my place, then I
Speaker 21: mean that may just have how it may have to
Speaker 21: play out.
Speaker 9: And then you know, the other times.
Speaker 21: It's just like we are very you know, deliberate and
Speaker 21: like blocking out time. Like we have a calendar and
Speaker 21: if someone's like, I am not available for this week,
Speaker 21: and we don't schedule anything for that week because that
Speaker 21: person needs their time.
Speaker 7: So we y'all might need to give some lessons to
Speaker 7: quest Love support.
Speaker 5: Organization.
Speaker 3: They don't have as many jobs, well has a lot
Speaker 3: of jobs.
Speaker 5: I wonder what my employer thinks about what I do here?
Speaker 7: Man, Yeah, Okay, Bill Sean works for Sesame Street.
Speaker 5: He does.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, so he goes from el Mo to put
Speaker 7: it in your mouth.
Speaker 5: So what about you? What about you?
Speaker 26: You think you know? Well, I don't. I don't have
Speaker 26: a full time job. So like I'm a freelance photographer.
Speaker 26: I'm an adjunct professor. I just teach once a week.
Speaker 26: I hadn't really worked for anybody since I was twenty four.
Speaker 26: Twenty yeah, so I realized a long time ago that
Speaker 26: I don't make a good employee. I don't like people
Speaker 26: telling me what to do, so I have to figure
Speaker 26: out on my own. And so like I think, you know,
Speaker 26: in terms of balance, like these these guys like they
Speaker 26: figured it out like out of balance. And for me,
Speaker 26: it's just about negotiating the relationship between all of the
Speaker 26: different things that I do.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 26: So if I'm teaching, I teach every Thursday, so you know,
Speaker 26: if it's a party on Thursday night, we got to
Speaker 26: get to as soon as I finish class, I want
Speaker 26: a plane. And it's interesting how like sometimes my students
Speaker 26: think they figured out a secret, like, oh, we know
Speaker 26: that you throw parties. I'm like, can we come, Sure,
Speaker 26: you can come, but just know that your paper on
Speaker 26: emanual con will be due next Thursday morning. You know
Speaker 26: what I'm saying, That's what's up.
Speaker 2: Sorry, no, what I was just gonna say.
Speaker 3: It's interesting because you said I hop on a plane
Speaker 3: and y'all are on another level. Y'all aren't just party
Speaker 3: promoters like y'all take this around the country, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: And so at this point where of some of the
Speaker 3: cities that y'all touched with Grits and Briskets.
Speaker 26: La, Chicago, d C, Detroit, Philly, Houston, Atlanta. We're going
Speaker 26: to the Bay Area this year or next year, Charlotte,
Speaker 26: Greensboro Movement done.
Speaker 7: Have you done overseas? Have you been out of the
Speaker 7: country to.
Speaker 5: Go for next for twenty seventeen?
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, Yeah, it's one of the things. I think
Speaker 7: it's dope when I go to the parties I've been to.
Speaker 7: I've been looking enough to catch the party in a.
Speaker 5: Few different cities.
Speaker 7: And the guy was he when I was at the
Speaker 7: show Charlotte, when I saw you guys in Charlotte a
Speaker 7: couple of weeks ago, and when my homies he was like, Yo,
Speaker 7: this show is crazy, and I was like, Yo, man,
Speaker 7: this this is crazy. Chicago House of blue nothing.
Speaker 5: And the thing about it is like I was.
Speaker 27: Lost my mind in the Yeah, I literally lost it
Speaker 27: was bad. It was I had to be taking off
Speaker 27: the I literally lost my mind.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I turned into big Brother that moment.
Speaker 2: I was yeah, Yeah, that might have been the one
Speaker 2: you were there.
Speaker 5: It might have been.
Speaker 9: It might have been.
Speaker 7: The party was So they did two nights the House
Speaker 7: of Blues, and I want to say maybe I was
Speaker 7: the second night. I can't remember the second night. It
Speaker 7: was the second night, So this is total. I mean,
Speaker 7: it was a pandemonium. And the thing that's so interesting
Speaker 7: about it is that how when you play the records
Speaker 7: in the South like a Charlotte, like people are having fun,
Speaker 7: But it seems like the records get an even bigger response.
Speaker 5: Outside of the South because all the time, all the time,
Speaker 5: and all the transplants. Yeah, right, right, right, right right, yes,
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean the Chicago was retarded.
Speaker 7: One particular joint that I want to talk about because
Speaker 7: I feel that y'all are single handedly responsible for reviving
Speaker 7: this song. And I wonder if the people who made it,
Speaker 7: if God, I can't remember the name, but the song Swagsurfing.
Speaker 7: It was the group's name. Fly Fly Fly Fly, swag Surfing.
Speaker 7: This was a song that it was. This was a
Speaker 7: song that came out in the height of what I
Speaker 7: would kind of call like.
Speaker 5: The ring Tone era.
Speaker 7: So this is like, oh my god, yeah, oh six
Speaker 7: right as I dropped an album called The Minstter Show.
Speaker 7: But right right, perfect timing and terrible time at the
Speaker 7: same time. But nah, man, it was a guy like
Speaker 7: shop Boy. It's probably like a rock star. And just
Speaker 7: like all these records that were at the time, Defour
Speaker 7: l Laughing Taffy, all those records, and so these were
Speaker 7: records that were used, I mean in a lot of
Speaker 7: ways that they sold Ringtones when Ringtones were hot.
Speaker 5: I mean that was the thing.
Speaker 7: I remember La was telling us like, yo, y'all need
Speaker 7: a song. We can sell some Ringtones for it. I
Speaker 7: remember that. But anyway, this song swag Surfing, y'all have
Speaker 7: like reignited that song. And so swag Surfing for the
Speaker 7: people who have never been to Biscuits party, that is
Speaker 7: like the come to Jesus moment of biscuits.
Speaker 5: We all come together as a family.
Speaker 7: I want you all to talk about it, like tell
Speaker 7: them like the essence of the swag surf, Like take
Speaker 7: us there.
Speaker 5: Now you yea. And also this he is on the mic,
Speaker 5: and this is like he is so right, he makes
Speaker 5: you feel.
Speaker 26: So we all have different roles, right and that and
Speaker 26: uh so this is how we say it. So my
Speaker 26: reason that was what to play. I know what to say,
Speaker 26: and Erica knows who to pay right, that is so
Speaker 26: and so on the the in the parties, my brothers
Speaker 26: obviously play, you know, spinning the records, and I'm on
Speaker 26: the mic just to make sure the crowd is where
Speaker 26: they need to be, creating a certain energy that we
Speaker 26: like to think is hospitable. But like the swag surf
Speaker 26: is one of those things where it's the epitome of
Speaker 26: the energy of our party that we want to create
Speaker 26: and maintain.
Speaker 5: Right, So we we.
Speaker 26: Don't care, like we say, we don't care if you
Speaker 26: bow legg is, slew foot of a pigeon. Told, we
Speaker 26: don't care if you talk short, gaze, straight, fat ugly,
Speaker 26: It doesn't matter. Like if you come to have a
Speaker 26: good time, you in the right place. And so you
Speaker 26: could be standing next to somebody you don't even know, right,
Speaker 26: and we ask you to put your arms out and
Speaker 26: you put your arms around on people and then once
Speaker 26: my brother drops the track, we start swaying from side
Speaker 26: to side. Right, we start swinging from side to side,
Speaker 26: and then right before the beat drops, we just got
Speaker 26: to let everybody know to get your motherfucking hands up.
Speaker 5: And it's not a request, a demand. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Every time, like I've seen, I've seen it, you know,
Speaker 7: in a few different places, and every every time, the
Speaker 7: energy is just through the fucking group. And the thing
Speaker 7: that's so dope about it, man, is like, well, for
Speaker 7: one thing, white people, our listeners, I need y'all to
Speaker 7: stop butchering the swag surf. I was watching something on
Speaker 7: It was some white university. It was a huge they
Speaker 7: were doing it. They tried the swag surf and it
Speaker 7: just there was no swag or surf at all.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 7: It was totally swag, body board, swag kayak but no,
Speaker 7: it was.
Speaker 5: It was so bad. But now you guys have.
Speaker 7: Just created a brand that is you know, coming from
Speaker 7: you know HBCU. I mean we joking, joke, but uh,
Speaker 7: just to see three of you guys from a fellow
Speaker 7: HBCUH attendees, just the stuff that y'all are doing, I
Speaker 7: just applaud you guys man, and just.
Speaker 21: Thank out so much.
Speaker 7: The party is a great time. If they're ever in
Speaker 7: your city, go like go. And I was seeing clips.
Speaker 7: We was in here working, so I couldn't even come
Speaker 7: out there to get my swagsurf on.
Speaker 5: But did.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I saw someone g I saw some of the
Speaker 7: videos was going down. So so now, man, ladies, gentlemen, man,
Speaker 7: this has been an incredible uh two day affair of
Speaker 7: quest Love Supreme fantee of myself lovely ea uh boss
Speaker 7: Bill unpaid Bill Scott yeo up in here.
Speaker 5: And also I must it's never gonna not make me laugh.
Speaker 7: And also in the background we got Chilling, the mother
Speaker 7: of this whole movie. We must, I mean, we must
Speaker 7: shot her out because she has been responsible in many
Speaker 7: ways for bringing us all together with the like okay
Speaker 7: player Angela, yeah, how many it's like six e's at
Speaker 7: the end of that the screen.
Speaker 5: She's laughing right now.
Speaker 7: You knew, I knew, Like, okay, let me explain it. Okay,
Speaker 7: So all the people out there and listen were okay.
Speaker 7: So so you know on social media now, when you
Speaker 7: get if you're on Twitter and you get like the
Speaker 7: blue check, that's like you were verified.
Speaker 5: Like that's like, okay, you're the fucking man.
Speaker 7: Right before the verification, there was Okay Player, and there
Speaker 7: was the okay that was beside your screen. Now when
Speaker 7: you got the okay, like I was tay gravy, I'm
Speaker 7: still take gravy, Okay player, and like.
Speaker 5: I'm take gravy.
Speaker 7: And it was like, all right, whatever, I'm take gravy.
Speaker 7: When I became take gravy. Okay, you made it?
Speaker 4: What yo?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 2: I still don't know the criteria.
Speaker 7: Okay, we can't talk about it as part of our
Speaker 7: Illuminati package.
Speaker 5: But it was part of it. Was we can't you
Speaker 5: can't speak on none of that.
Speaker 18: It was.
Speaker 5: It was a part of our Illuminati NDA that we
Speaker 5: had to sign.
Speaker 7: But okay, but but nah man. Shout out to Angie
Speaker 7: Okay player for bringing us all together. It has been
Speaker 7: an incredible and fellas, ladies and gents, I start to
Speaker 7: my left with lovely, what have you learned?
Speaker 5: What do we learn this over this two day period?
Speaker 5: Picnicas work?
Speaker 2: That's what I have learned.
Speaker 3: I have learned that as much as I like to
Speaker 3: tease our boss and you know, leader Fearless, Leader re quest.
Speaker 20: Love, that nigga works hard.
Speaker 2: And I don't know what kind of vitamins you know
Speaker 2: he takes. But it's good. It's got to be something
Speaker 2: he's keeping from us.
Speaker 5: Cocaine. It's got to be something.
Speaker 2: But I wish that he took drugs.
Speaker 14: I really don't know what the man is. Superhuman. He's
Speaker 14: got to be.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And I've learned that I can be in a room
Speaker 3: with y'all for over eight hours, and especially you know,
Speaker 3: I paid bill here ship.
Speaker 5: You liked it the whole time next to me? Stop,
Speaker 5: I think that, like what well you said you liked
Speaker 5: it the whole time.
Speaker 7: That and like you were talking about being trapped in
Speaker 7: a room.
Speaker 5: With that sounds bad? Yeah, that sound I'm sure that
Speaker 5: was like the same thing that Rick James said to
Speaker 5: that girl. You know what, maybe it's like an episode
Speaker 5: of Breaking Bad. So I want unpaid bill. What have
Speaker 5: you learned? Brother? Days? Man, I've had to really surreal
Speaker 5: fucking days man.
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, so your whole phase updated? Yeah, yes, apparently
Speaker 7: something went down last night.
Speaker 5: I went down last night.
Speaker 4: He wasn't.
Speaker 5: I you know, Uh, everything is good. That's how you're
Speaker 5: supposed to do it.
Speaker 14: That's how you're supposed to do.
Speaker 5: Don't leave me hanging over there. I'm sorry, I didn't
Speaker 5: see that I was laughing and I closed my eyes
Speaker 5: that I was supposed to do it.
Speaker 3: Can you at least tell your wool story, because it
Speaker 3: was funny.
Speaker 5: Oh my wool story? Okay, all right.
Speaker 24: So so the Wu Tank Plan are playing at the
Speaker 24: Ruth picnic, and so I went to the rehearsal today
Speaker 24: because I had some time to kill between the end
Speaker 24: of my whole phase in the beginning of the afternoon
Speaker 24: exactly if you will, just for just understand time in
Speaker 24: relation to me, all right. So I got into the
Speaker 24: WU thing, and I was there, and they were all there.
Speaker 24: But there's you know how many guys, There's nine of
Speaker 24: them or eight of them, right, and there was like
Speaker 24: forty people there, forty other dudes with like shoolin woo
Speaker 24: shit happening. And I fit right in, as I off
Speaker 24: do in these situations. Clearly, I'm a plaid. So I
Speaker 24: sat there for a while. So I sitting there with Steve,
Speaker 24: and and all of a sudden they're getting the songs together.
Speaker 24: So Rizza gets up and he starts to rap, and
Speaker 24: then and then a few of the guys get up
Speaker 24: to do whatever song they were doing.
Speaker 5: Meanwhile, two of them.
Speaker 24: Are set up a chess board and just start playing chess,
Speaker 24: like that's what you do during rehearsal. That's what you
Speaker 24: do during rehearsal, absolutely every time. So and I thought like,
Speaker 24: oh man, they're gonna get up and like get on stage,
Speaker 24: because that's what you do in rehearsal. But lo and behold,
Speaker 24: it got to like Jesus verse and he was playing chess,
Speaker 24: and he just rapped while he was playing chess. He
Speaker 24: was like, chess move, Chess move. And I was like,
Speaker 24: that's the most surreal thing I've seen in a really
Speaker 24: long time.
Speaker 5: They didn't have to get up. Oh and there was
Speaker 5: a teleprompter because you know, they forgot all that. They thought.
Speaker 24: They thought it was the funniest thing ever, because they
Speaker 24: don't when those kind of words are written on it
Speaker 24: tell it was very very funny to them.
Speaker 7: Wowverybody else shout out to the making chess moves and
Speaker 7: rap moves at the same time.
Speaker 5: Simultaneously happened such a big catalog.
Speaker 24: You got the mystery of chess wrapping it was and
Speaker 24: then and then Steve tried to make a joke about
Speaker 24: Bobby Fisher, but he called them Bobby Fisher Stein or
Speaker 24: something like that, and so then the joke fell on
Speaker 24: his face. That's Steve, Steve screwed up a joke, Yes,
Speaker 24: Steve not geting jokes man, it's the weed, it's the
Speaker 24: West that it doesn't it doesn't work for him.
Speaker 5: So anyway, Scotty, what did you learn?
Speaker 15: Must have learned?
Speaker 14: Okay, man, And we're not talking about the QLs after
Speaker 14: Dark session. The conversations which I missed.
Speaker 5: QULS after Dot was so real. It was so real.
Speaker 5: What makes that its own radio show? Yeah?
Speaker 7: Ql S fe Q Talk's like, yeah, who's been offs?
Speaker 5: A couple of things.
Speaker 28: One, the roots are really creative when they need to
Speaker 28: stall for time.
Speaker 5: Story. Yes, yes, Chappelle loved that five minutes. I'm sure
Speaker 5: he did. He looked very enthus to be up there.
Speaker 2: That forget about.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah we had Rosel got fa noise. That was
Speaker 7: seeing Rosell in a long time. Yeah, shut up, you know,
Speaker 7: I'm just saying that was one the first time seeing
Speaker 7: him in a long time.
Speaker 14: I see him there was Yeah, you missed it.
Speaker 5: Rose showed up.
Speaker 7: We know, Oh he was whole fas I know, he
Speaker 7: was whole phasing, but it was he was old phasing.
Speaker 7: But Roselle showed up and did his thing.
Speaker 5: What else? The biggest thing I learned is that.
Speaker 28: I had a really good time spending time with you guys,
Speaker 28: especially this whole weekend. And what people may or may
Speaker 28: not know is doing a radio show is really hard,
Speaker 28: and you guys make it look easy.
Speaker 5: So I think you guys all just thank you, thank you,
Speaker 5: thank you.
Speaker 24: I just think three months ago we had no idea dance.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he can also teach dance. You need to
Speaker 5: check the QLs instagram seven eight and ship time was
Speaker 5: impressed you.
Speaker 14: You guys will need to check the QLs instagram and
Speaker 14: see the video of Fonticelo and stepping in the name
Speaker 14: of Questlove.
Speaker 1: In the name of Questlove, people filming it, we have
Speaker 1: a bunch of together.
Speaker 5: There's all kinds of.
Speaker 3: Competition on the subject of Fante. Real quick, can I
Speaker 3: just do another thing I learned. I learned that Fante
Speaker 3: was in the color.
Speaker 14: Purple, right, man, you can tell everybody about that because
Speaker 14: that was off off Mike.
Speaker 7: It was off Mike, Okay, So for the people who care, everybody, everybody,
Speaker 7: I was an extra in the color Purple uh, long
Speaker 7: time ago.
Speaker 5: What it was.
Speaker 7: My uncle at the time, he was the film was
Speaker 7: shot in North Carolina, and so my uncle at the
Speaker 7: time was working my uncle Mike shot at my uncle Mike,
Speaker 7: he was working at ants in Tech which was the
Speaker 7: county they shot it in Anson County, and so he
Speaker 7: was working in ants in Tech as like a financial
Speaker 7: aid advisor, and so they that's where they were having
Speaker 7: the auditions. So he hits us, he hits my mom.
Speaker 7: He's like, hey, they're having auditions for this movie. And
Speaker 7: at the time, the movie, the code name or the
Speaker 7: production name was called moon Song, and they were kind
Speaker 7: of you know, keeping it under wraps whatever, and so
Speaker 7: they was like, they were having auditions for this movie.
Speaker 7: You should come down. So my mother came down. She's
Speaker 7: like cool. She brought me with me. And it was
Speaker 7: in the summer of eighty five. I want to say
Speaker 7: I was six years old. I was about to go
Speaker 7: to first grade, I think. But anyway, so we go down.
Speaker 7: We auditioned and at the time, and during the audition
Speaker 7: I remember specifically, I had to I was going up
Speaker 7: against this girl.
Speaker 5: I was six years old and the girl was nine,
Speaker 5: and the.
Speaker 7: Audition was we had to pretend that we were angry
Speaker 7: and we were hungry and we wanted a mother whoever
Speaker 7: to make us some jam. Sandwiches make a jam sound,
Speaker 7: so you had to act like I'm hungry, I want
Speaker 7: some jam. Like that was the I remember specifically, that
Speaker 7: was it. I'm hungry, I want some jam. And so,
Speaker 7: you know, the girl was older than me, and she
Speaker 7: was big, and she was fucking like, I mean, she
Speaker 7: was really scary.
Speaker 5: I was scared of shit, but she was really like,
Speaker 5: give me some jam.
Speaker 7: Like she really hadn't ate, like maybe like her wik
Speaker 7: vouchers hadn't appeared that month, she really might have been hungry.
Speaker 5: It was real, so you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: So she did her thing or whatever, and I was
Speaker 7: just like, man, so I did mine, and I was
Speaker 7: kind of shook. So I remember leaving auditions just thinking like, man,
Speaker 7: I don't think they're gonna choose me.
Speaker 5: Can you like how you did it a little bit?
Speaker 5: Give me some jam.
Speaker 9: I'm hungry.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have gave you the PU. Yeah I wouldn't. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I would have been I lost it.
Speaker 7: So h I thought it was I figured that I
Speaker 7: had fucking bombed or whatever, and so I just came home.
Speaker 7: We left, come home one night to my grandmother's house
Speaker 7: phone rings and and my mother answers it, and I'm
Speaker 7: in the other room and I hear her just start screaming.
Speaker 7: But it wasn't like a bad scream. It wasn't like
Speaker 7: a somebody died scream. It was like a shit we
Speaker 7: hit the lottery screen. Yeah, she was like happy, and
Speaker 7: so I came out. I was like, what is it?
Speaker 7: So she was telling me. She was like, yo, you
Speaker 7: got a part in The Color Purple. So that was
Speaker 7: when they let her know that it was The Color
Speaker 7: Purple was the movie. And we went down the next day,
Speaker 7: and you know, I remember getting fitted for everything, like
Speaker 7: I remember meeting Oprah. And the only reason I knew
Speaker 7: she was Oprah was because at the time she used
Speaker 7: to be in the Jet magazine, and like when you
Speaker 7: go to the barber shops.
Speaker 5: Like barber shops always used to have a Jet.
Speaker 7: So like I was read like the albums and then
Speaker 7: see the Beauty of the Week, and then like a
Speaker 7: few other pages after that. It was like Oprah. She
Speaker 7: was on the bottom of like top ten influential.
Speaker 5: Square in the Black Squares.
Speaker 7: She was one of the Black square implorant people. And
Speaker 7: so I remember seeing her and we met at No
Speaker 7: Old joke, like we were at the Daily Tray and
Speaker 7: we met and we met at craft services and uh
Speaker 7: yeah her, I remember me whoopee. I remember all that stuff.
Speaker 7: And so it wasn't until afterwards when the movie came out.
Speaker 7: My mother took me to see it, and it was
Speaker 7: then I understood this while we shot a fucking.
Speaker 5: Movie, like I got it. But uh, yeah, it was
Speaker 5: a fun experience.
Speaker 7: Steven Spielberg at the time, he was married to Amy Irving,
Speaker 7: and I remember she was breastfeeding and that was the
Speaker 7: first time I've ever seen that stuff. Yeah, because it's
Speaker 7: just white women putting their titties out, like.
Speaker 5: You just don't see that shular. I mean, I was like,
Speaker 5: what the fuck? And so I remember my mom.
Speaker 7: Like y'all was like, Mama, that woman's got up titt
Speaker 7: out and she's like, boy, put you don't point at them.
Speaker 5: People like it was crazy.
Speaker 7: So it was just totally different being like a small
Speaker 7: southern like kid, you know, small town southern kid being
Speaker 7: around all these like la people like.
Speaker 5: That was of my boy, and your actual careers just
Speaker 5: jumped off since then.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I have since been in Uh what have I been?
Speaker 7: I've been in the Breaks on v H one. I
Speaker 7: was also in the gospel production Mama, please don't it's
Speaker 7: grown by leaps and bounds. But no, man, that was
Speaker 7: that was my story And I may post some pics.
Speaker 7: Maybe I'll post some pics on QLs like that a.
Speaker 2: Little boy running through the street, running through the sheets
Speaker 2: that hit Sealy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they was.
Speaker 7: I ran through and tumbled so you can see me.
Speaker 7: But I'll post I'll send pictures to uh like we
Speaker 7: can put it up on the QLs Instagram.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 5: We Uh, boss Bill? What you What have you learned? Man?
Speaker 5: What have you learned?
Speaker 19: This?
Speaker 14: I learned that everybody that we talked to today was
Speaker 14: very intelligent, h had Everybody had their head on straight
Speaker 14: like that was refreshing.
Speaker 5: It was very.
Speaker 14: Refreshing because I've talked to a lot of people, you know,
Speaker 14: in various capacities in the industry, and not.
Speaker 5: Everybody is all there. Yeah, but everybody we talked.
Speaker 14: To this weekend, I have I have a going to
Speaker 14: do big things and.
Speaker 7: I have hope for the future. Like all the people,
Speaker 7: like millennials, I think get a very bad rap. And
Speaker 7: it's just old millenniums, this, millenniums, this, but the young
Speaker 7: people that we spoke to over this past week, yeah,
Speaker 7: y'all right with me, particularly like tis just specifically saying
Speaker 7: like Lean is some bullshit and you know, to hear
Speaker 7: I've been body to hear Damn Marley talking about you know,
Speaker 7: you know I write, you know who I am. I'm
Speaker 7: not gonna try to I want to work my I'm
Speaker 7: not going to coast all my name. You know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying. Yeah, Una saying the same thing. So yeah,
Speaker 7: the uh, the young artist that y'all giving me hope.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, y'all ain't just all bouncing
Speaker 7: and shooting and killing.
Speaker 5: The ship, y'all.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yah yah, gotchas on straight. I'm hopeful, thank you.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Man, Well, y'all, this has been yet another fun field
Speaker 7: episode of Quest Love Supreme in this two day haul.
Speaker 7: Good god man, we've been This has been nuts, but
Speaker 7: we got through it on behalf of myself, Fonticoelo, Lovely Boss, Bill,
Speaker 7: Unpaid Bill Scott, ya Yo, Sugar Steve, and our absent
Speaker 7: cult leader Massa Thompson.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 7: I've our slave Motisa, the Motiza Trial.
Speaker 5: I heard the Motsasa.
Speaker 2: It's not funny, say yeah.
Speaker 5: It was real, it was funny. Yeah.
Speaker 7: We're gonna rename this podcast, this radio show twelve years
Speaker 7: of Tompson.
Speaker 5: Listen, he's gonna hate this up.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, he gonna be he'll be cussing all this
Speaker 7: funk out, but it's all good. Listen on behalf of
Speaker 7: all of us Team Supreme here at Question of Supreme. Man,
Speaker 7: thank all of y'all for checking us, and we'll be
Speaker 7: back next week on Yall.
Speaker 5: Another episode of Question Love Supreme with an all new
Speaker 5: Team Supremes. All yeah, last one A good run, man. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's been real.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, I'll see y'all letting up the blumbing line
Speaker 7: together Quest Love Supreme only on Pandora.
Speaker 5: We'll see y'all next week.
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