1 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty Armstrong and 3 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: Petty and he arms wrong and get it live from 4 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: the studio C C. Senior, a dimly lit room deep 5 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: with them, the bowels, the Armstrong and Getty Communications Compound 6 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: And hey y'all on today, midday Wednesday, I'll crap, the 7 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: camel's in the studio. I just walked in. He was 8 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: standing over there in the corner in the shadows. He 9 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: knows I don't like him at this point, the cammel humpday. 10 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: You got a camera. There's a tension here in the room. 11 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: It's awful. Yeah. Luckily the contract runs out end of 12 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: the year twenty six. We don't have to have the 13 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: camel in the studio. We made a camel cigarettes. They 14 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: give us a couple thousand dollars a months. I have 15 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: to camel in the studio. It's blah blah bah. It's 16 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: an endorsement thing. Any who. 17 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 2: Today, today we're under the tutelage of our general manager. 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: Ironically appropriate tie in Mohammed ben Solmon, the Crown Prince 19 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: of Saudi Arabia, Wadeo stranger to camels himself. 20 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: How's that a tire? We have a camel in the 21 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: studio and MBS is our general manager. I don't get 22 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: the tie. He didn't. He didn't ride to the White 23 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: House on a camel. It's freaking Saudi Arabia. They have 24 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: camel races there. 25 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: It's the official livestock of Saudi Arabia. 26 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: I It's come on, do you think he's ever been 27 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: on a camel? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 28 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: I mean it's like an American leader being on horseback. 29 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: It's just it's it's you need that. That's a shot 30 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: for your publicity. If you don't like MPs, he has 31 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: you bone saw. But you know that's that's their system. 32 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: We must respect it. My brother spent a lot of 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: time in Saudi Arabia for either of the Gulf Wars, 34 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, there's herds of camel's rooming across 35 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: the road all the time. Just a thang. Why is 36 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: MBS our general manager today? 37 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: Files exactly, Yes, he's yes, he has all of them 38 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: and he's prepared to release them. 39 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: No. 40 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: He was at the White House yesterday. He had a 41 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: meeting with the President. A number of agreements were struck, 42 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: many of them fairly vague. But the friendliness is the key, Jack, 43 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: the warming of relations between the US, and that's great, 44 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 2: golf Kingdom, fantastic. 45 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: How amazed are you that the House voted whatever it was, 46 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: four hundred and twenty eight to one to release the 47 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: Epstein files after all of this drama for the last 48 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: however many months, and Trump trying to stop it from 49 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: coming out at all, that it was Feigner twenty eight 50 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: to one. Well, two things. 51 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: Number one, I was tempted to have every Jepstein be 52 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: the general manager. I refused to say the name, but 53 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: I will say I will say that I was. I 54 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: was tempted to have the Epstein files as a political 55 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: phenomenon as the general manager. 56 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 57 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you separate yourself from the actual arguments 58 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: involved and just look at the transitions and the weird 59 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: hypocritical coalitions being formed in the rest of it, it's 60 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 2: a fascinating case. 61 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: It is as a political story. You're absolutely right. Actually, 62 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: I was watching Mark Halpern's newscast last night and he 63 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: started it by saying, this is the most amazing story 64 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: I've ever covered in my decades in Washington. DC right 65 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: in terms of just how both parties are reacting and 66 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:43,119 Speaker 1: how it's just consumed the entire city. And then you've 67 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: got the splits inside parties for variety of reasons, where 68 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: and at its heart, there are a lot of folks, 69 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: including us, that believe they're chasing phantoms. Yeah, I don't 70 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: think there's anything there. I don't think there's anything exciting 71 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: that's going to come out of the damn thing. I 72 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: think the president's close to right when he calls it 73 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: a hoax. Not that Jeffrey Epstein had underage girls, you know, 74 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: sex and up powerful people. That obviously was true, But 75 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: the fact that there's some giant unveiling of something that's 76 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: going to be shocking and interesting. I think that's a hoax. 77 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: But you know, it has split the whole Republican Party 78 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: and the MAGA wing, and Marjorie Taylor Green's now a 79 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: trader to our country according to Trump and and Lattia all. 80 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: We're cheering just as loudly as the victims were yesterday 81 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: when they got the news that it passed the House 82 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: and passed the Senate. I assume you all follow the 83 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: news close enough to know that the whole Epstein file 84 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 1: release thing passed the House four and twenty eight to one. 85 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: Then the Senate just said, don't it where I bother vote, 86 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: and it's through. Right, That's what happened in the Senate. 87 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't oppose it at all. 88 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: And I a week ago, certainly two weeks ago, nobody 89 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: thought it would get through the Senate. 90 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: Not a chance, right two weeks ago, and now they did. 91 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: They didn't even bother to vote. They're so overwhelmingly in 92 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: favor of buing and through. Of course, America must know 93 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: what's in the Epstein files. So he's gonna go to 94 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: the President's desk, he's gonna sign it, and then within 95 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,679 Speaker 1: thirty days the Justice Department has to release all this stuff. 96 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: And we read what's actually in the bill yesterday. It's 97 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: a ton of information that is gonna come out. And 98 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: here's the most interesting thing I've come across today, Mark 99 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: Alpin writing in his newsletter about what this means, the 100 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: impropriety of flinging FBI three to zero two's those are 101 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: those documents they have whenever they're doing an investigation or whatever, 102 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: national security and law enforcement documents and grand jury material 103 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: into the public. Maw is how a republic slides toward 104 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: reality television. 105 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: Yes, especially given the voracious appetite of our media for 106 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: innuendo and gossip. 107 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: Right, And he says, and I'm afraid this is probably true. 108 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about this, the president being set that 109 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: once one president does it where you release all of 110 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: this investigation stuff, future ones are gonna have a lot 111 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: of pressure on them too. It's like an executive version 112 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: of you give a mouse a code that in the 113 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: future they'll release all this stuff and the collateral damage, reputations, 114 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: civil liberties, livelihoods shredded for sport. When the mob gets 115 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: a peek at the raw material of justice, sausage making 116 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: is going to be something to watch. 117 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: Right, say you were in a bitter dispute with I 118 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: don't know, another commentator or blogger or you know, the 119 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 2: guy who runs the competing steel. 120 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: Company with you, whatever, and you. 121 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: Come across the name comes up a couple of times 122 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: in the Epstein files. There's nothing there, There's no substance there. 123 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: He just went to a couple of cocktail parties and 124 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: a fundraiser whatever. But if you are the correct, vicious 125 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: sort of person, you will just hammer that information and 126 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: dress it up to make it look a little more 127 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: jazzy and fancy than it actually is. An attempt to 128 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 2: assassinate the other person's character with maybe a little success, 129 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 2: maybe a lot of success, and then come the defamation 130 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: lawsuits and the rest of it. There are good, sound 131 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 2: like bedrock sound reasons you don't spray out just the 132 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: raw material of investigations, And yet we're going to do 133 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: that as we chase ghosts, and nothing is going. 134 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: There are going to be no ghosts found. 135 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: I mean, there's gonna be some interesting information found, but 136 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: there will be no ghosts found. And even if every 137 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: single dot and tittle, as they used to say back 138 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: in the fancy pants world, every single iota of information 139 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: is released, those who are the hardestcore conspiracy theorists will 140 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: insist there's more and it will not rest. 141 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: It will never rest. Yeah. I well, we'll play the 142 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: clip later. I don't know if you're watching. When they 143 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: were having a candlelight vigil with the victims yesterday and 144 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: news broke that I forget if it was when it 145 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: passed the House or past the Senate, but news broke 146 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: on their phones and they're all cheering and crying and 147 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: hugging each other, and I and and I don't know 148 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: what they think is about to happen now. MSNBC was 149 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: claiming last night that the victims have a list of 150 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: lots of powerful people that have not been named yet 151 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: that were having sex with them when they were underage, okay, 152 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: and they have held back on saying any of those 153 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: names because they're scared of the damage that will be 154 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: done to them by these powerful people if they try 155 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: to stick their neck out and say, I'm not even 156 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: going to use a name, I'll use a name if 157 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: one of them came forward and said I had sex 158 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: with Bill Clinton. I was only sixteen at the time. 159 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: They're worried that they'll be crushed, right. Clinton's have crushed 160 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: people in the past who may claims like that, not underage, 161 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: but sex claims. They and that they claim that this 162 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: will come out now without them having to risk their lives, careers, 163 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: et cetera. If that's true, obviously this is huge. I 164 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: don't believe that. I don't I don't do Do you 165 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: believe that there's a list there are a bunch of 166 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: those victims that have they could they absolutely could testify 167 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: that I had sex with this person when I was 168 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: under age, and I haven't said anything yet. Do you 169 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: think that's true? Uh, it could be. 170 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: It could be, but there would be no corroborating evidence. 171 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: Probably somebody's presence, you know, in the same zip code 172 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: isn't proof of a specific act. It reminds me of 173 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 2: the horrific accusations about Justice Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearings. 174 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 2: You could have that time six. 175 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's it's a little different though that there's 176 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: just no reason to think Justice Kavanaugh was involved in 177 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: gang rapes, where there's lots of reason to believe that 178 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: some of these people who were hanging around Jeffrey Epstein 179 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: were having sex with chicks that they knew we're seventeen. 180 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: I mean that that's not wouldn't be shocking, No, it 181 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocking. 182 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: But I hesitate to say there's lots of information blah 183 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 2: blah blah, like you just said, because this guy was 184 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: huge in Manhaes in society, just fundraisers and dinner parties 185 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: and cocktail this and that, totally innocent of sexual perversion 186 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 2: that was reserved. And I've hung around people like that 187 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 2: a little bit and decided I do not want to 188 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: be around here. There are different levels of how much 189 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: you get to see of their lifestyle. If you're just 190 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: a casual business acquaintance, they seem to be a respectful 191 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: business person. They clearly like to party a little bit, 192 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: blah bla blah. Then they figure you're cool and they 193 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: invite you to their party or they get together or whatever, 194 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: and you start to see, wow, they just don't like 195 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: to party. Guys are like sneaking off to do coke, 196 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: and who are those chicks? 197 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: That's another level. 198 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: Then there's another level you get to where they figure, ah, 199 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: he's cool, he's down, and then you start to realize, 200 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: oh my god, now I see what's going on here. 201 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: This is crazy. 202 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 2: But not everybody gets to that level. So anybody who's 203 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: at level one, and that was lots and lots of 204 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 2: luminaries in New York and Florida, you can't say it 205 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 2: wouldn't surprise me at all here that Alan Dershowitz raped 206 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 2: a sixteen year old I mean no. 207 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: No, Bill Clinton in the blue dress and the painting 208 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: pointing that was weird. That is going on there. Okay, 209 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: we got more to talk about on this later. We 210 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: got to start the show officially, I'm Jack Armstrong, he's 211 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: Joe Getty on this It is Wednesday, November nineteenth or 212 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, where Armstrong and getting we approved of 213 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: this program. 214 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: Oh, one more note on every JEPS team. Jon Osaro 215 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: writes for The Free Press, went through thousands of the emails. 216 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: That's all he's been doing since they got released. What 217 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: was it last week, and he says there's nothing big 218 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: politically speaking, but the depth of moral ugliness in them. Yeah, 219 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: he said, I didn't think they could shock me. 220 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: They shocked me. Oh wow, Okay, we'll get to some 221 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: of that. 222 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, these these people, these people are sociopaths. Anyway, all right, 223 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: let's begin in the show officially according to FCC rules 224 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 2: of regulations for you good non sociopaths. 225 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: Here we go at Mark and Trump doesn't give a 226 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: fish pump. I grabbed that hand. I don't give a 227 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: hell where that hand's been. I grabbed that he So, 228 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: remember when Biden met MSB or MSG or which one 229 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: is he he's ms BS, NBS, NBS. When Biden met 230 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: MBS because he called him a pariah for murdering Koshogi 231 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: and everything like that. Now, moron, then he goes and 232 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: meets him and fist pump him. So he can't be 233 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: said that he shook his hand or whatever. Trumps. Oh, 234 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: I shook his hand, I grabs it. I don't care 235 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: whether where his hand has been, nice, shook it, nice 236 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: shug it. 237 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: I don't know what care of that hand has been, 238 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: holding the bones or whatever, stroking a cawl. 239 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: I mean, not exactly sure what that comment means. If 240 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: somebody shakes my hand in a public sending and I 241 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: don't care where that hand has been, I'm gonna shake 242 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: his hand. What what are you claiming? I'm a relatively 243 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: clean person, a decent human being. I don't know. 244 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 2: Uh So, we got so much news to catch up on. 245 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: Joe just had a heck of a tease. I can't 246 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: wait to hear that. We got Katie's headlines on the way. 247 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 2: Stay here, we'll get into it more later. 248 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: Some of the details in the various some memos that 249 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: came out last week, emails, stuff like that. But there 250 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: has never been a major story that I understood less 251 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: than the Epstein story. All major stories since we've been 252 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: in talk radio, I at least got my head around 253 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: at some point and understood I do not understand this one. 254 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: There's so many versions of it, which is part of 255 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: the confusion. We will discuss. Let's figure out who's reporting what. 256 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: It's the lead story with Katie Green Katie. 257 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 3: Well, speaking of so many versions, we've got three headlines 258 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: from the major alphabet networks. NBC. 259 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: Congress passes bill to force. 260 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 3: The release of the Epstein files, CNN, A Washington humiliation 261 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 3: leaves Trump more politically exposed on Epstein than ever before. 262 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 3: And then Fox, who buried this one a little bit. 263 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: House dem slammed for sick defense of colleague caught texting 264 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 3: Epstein during twenty nineteen hearing. 265 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it, that's its own interesting story. But well, 266 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: Trump is humiliated or in danger if there's anything there, 267 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: but I don't know. 268 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: It's definitely a slipping of his grip on the MAGA 269 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 2: movement in general. 270 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: But the second part of this goes about, you know 271 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: how much trouble he's in now that the Epstein files 272 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: are coming out. Only if there's something there, and I 273 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: got I still believe, I don't. It doesn't make logical 274 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: sense that if there was anything there that the Biden 275 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: people wouldn't have put it out. That's never mentioned in 276 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: this story. The Democrats, when they controlled the House could 277 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: have had the same vote that the Republicans had yesterday, 278 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: or Joe Biden could have by executive order released all 279 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: this stuff, just like they've been saying Trump could have. 280 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: Are these people you're citing in the business of truth 281 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: telling or clickbaiting? 282 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: I don't think your answer anyway. I don't want to 283 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: use up all your time, Katie. Back to Kate. 284 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: A couple other interesting headlines from the Daily Mail. Washington 285 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: resident hospitalized with virus never before. 286 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: Seen in humans. Yeah, I read that some dude got 287 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: bird flu first time ever. This kind of bird flu 288 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: is transmitted to a human in Washington. Isn't that where 289 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: COVID started anyway? Yeah, I found that troubling. 290 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: From the Wall Street Journal, the NFL's secret obsession with 291 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 3: supersonic flight, talking about yeah, yeah, well, they have dreams 292 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 3: of permanent franchises in Europe, so they're really behind this idea. 293 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: And if flying is fast enough, it would be more doable. 294 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: Is that what they're is that what you're Yeah, give 295 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: you a picture of an NFL team having to make a. 296 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: Twelve hour flight to go play a game. That's terrible. 297 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 3: From the Washington Post, Robots in your bloodstream could deliver 298 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: drugs with greater precision. 299 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: Cool, robots in my blood that's the The incredible journey 300 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: was that the sci fi movie The Substance unk down 301 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: the little capsule to go like, do medical procedures. 302 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 303 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: From CBS in Thailand, eighty one monkeys and meth found 304 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 3: in car driven by suspected wildlife smugglers. 305 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: That's a party, man. Eighty one monkeys in one car. 306 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: I'm coming over. Yeah, I got Yeah, I got all 307 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: the monkeys. No, I brought eighty one. I brought one 308 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: extra in case one of them gets hurt. Yeah, and 309 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: I got the meth too. Okay, I'll be there in 310 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: five minutes. Those monkeys get into the myth, you are 311 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: going to have a problem. 312 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: Finally, from the Babylon Bee Bo's introduces new Mariah Carey 313 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 3: canceling headphones for Christmas. 314 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: Ah, that's funny. This is an important UH News headline 315 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: that we didn't have. Federal judge yesterday blocked Texas from 316 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: doing that whole congressional map redrawing thing. So, at least 317 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: according to this judge, unless the Supreme Court steps in, 318 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: they ain't going to redraw their districts, while California is 319 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: which gives the Democrats a definite boost in trying to 320 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: win back the House. Yeah, we'll have to see. 321 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: I need to know more about that judgment by the 322 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: judge doing his judging, whether that ruling will likely apply 323 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:12,719 Speaker 2: to California or not. 324 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: There is so much to talk about. Oh my gosh, 325 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: I hope you can stay with us for you missus segment. 326 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: Get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand Armstrong and 327 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: Getty Switching Gears. Today there was a massive internet outers 328 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: that knocked out several major sites, including chat GPT. It 329 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: was scary for a couple hours. People had to get 330 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: medical advice from a real doctor. You have a hernia 331 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: or you're pregnant. Can you come back in an hour? 332 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: This is the internet? Seah, wow, got I used GPT 333 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: for a medical question of staying. It was fantastic. I 334 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: mean the information that gay and then the links and 335 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: everything like that, and how quickly it came up with 336 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: it was just misstunning. So I don't know hardly of 337 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: a show or journalist or anybody who's been more skeptical 338 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: of the whole Epstein thing as a as a story 339 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: than us for all kinds of different reasons. I am 340 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: now pretty fascinated with it, both as a political story 341 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: and a phenomenon. And it is a phenomenon that I like, 342 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: I've said many times, I can't quite get my head around. 343 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 2: Ladies reminds me of that Well, what was that French 344 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: fellow who wrote The Madness of Crowds? 345 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, like one hundred years ago. 346 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: It's one of those situations, say it helps you understand humanity. 347 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: This is the most recent polling. Now, this is on 348 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: the heels of I assume you know this that the 349 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: House voted four hundred and twenty eight to one to 350 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: release the Epstein files. Who is the one no vote? 351 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: I don't look that up. 352 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: I can't remember his name, but he had an extremely intelligent, 353 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 2: principled objection, which is what I've been saying all along, 354 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: that you do not spew raw investigative data out to 355 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,719 Speaker 2: the gossip hungry media. It's never happened for a good reason. 356 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: Good for you, boomer. This is the modern world where 357 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: all everything is a reality show. So four hundred and 358 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 1: twenty eight to one, the Senate didn't even take it up. 359 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: They're like, yep, we're on board send it to the 360 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: President what And Speaker Johnson was very unhappy with that 361 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: because he wanted some amendments in there with some protections 362 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: for some of the information that might come out, of course, 363 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: which looks I could cover up. And so they'll right exactly. 364 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 2: So Johnson presides over the put it all out, knowing 365 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 2: that's a terrible idea, thinking, don't worry, the Senate will 366 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: do the right thing. And the Senate's like, no, you 367 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: don't hand us this flame and bag of turds and 368 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 2: ask us. 369 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: To fix it. You fix it. 370 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: We're passing it bam, rubber stamp. So surely unnecessarily frank 371 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: language friends. 372 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: And then the President's going to sign it today. So 373 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: how do Americans feel about this at this point? This 374 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: is the latest poll. This is polling was done fifteenth 375 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: through the seventeen, so up till two days ago. The 376 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: vast majority of Americans think the US government should release 377 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: all of its files from the investigation of Epstein eighty 378 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: percent and includes ninety one percent of Democrats, eighty three 379 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: percent of Independence and two thirds of Republicans that think 380 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: all of the files around Epstein should come out. I mean, 381 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: that's pretty strong support. And then that's the reason. I mean, 382 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: because politicians are aware of this. They're either aware of 383 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 1: the internal polling around this, or they're hearing from their 384 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: own constituents. And that's why it was a four hundred 385 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: and twenty eight to one vote yesterday where none of 386 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: them wanted to be on a Well, I don't think 387 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: we should side of it. Do you want to know? 388 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: Actually what's going to happen now? Sure? 389 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 2: If the President signs it so, The Epstein Files Transparency 390 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 2: Act would direct the Attorney General to make unclassified documents. 391 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: Hello, oh, there you go. 392 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: The conspiracy theories are well fertilized and ready to continue 393 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: growing in spite of the release because there will be 394 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 2: some classified stuff anyway, I make unclassified documents for lated 395 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 2: de Epstein and Julene Maxwell available within thirty days of 396 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: being signed into law. The bill requires a systematic disclosure 397 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 2: of documents from the Justice Department, including flight logs, internal memos, 398 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: personal communications. 399 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: Metadata, immunity agreements, and more. 400 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 2: It also stipulates that the release material be fully searchable 401 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 2: and downloadable. The bill allows for redactions for victim identifying 402 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 2: information and materials depicting child sex abuse. Then an additional 403 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 2: report to Congress outlining what was redacted and why is 404 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 2: required within fifteen days of the publication. 405 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: They have to be specific on why they redacted anything. 406 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: And there's going to be unless thumping changes. Tremendous political 407 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: pressure from all sides, as you just heard, to do 408 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: this quickly and to do you know, you better explain 409 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: your reactions. And here is another. 410 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: Wrinkle that will leave the most hungry unsatisfied. The bill 411 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: allows the Attorney General to withhold the redact as we 412 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: said victims names, medical information, child porn information that would 413 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 2: jeopardize an active investigation, and images of death or abuse. 414 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 2: It requires Justice Department to justify its reactions. But the 415 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 2: Justice Department could say, well, Trump told us to investigate 416 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: all these different Democrats, so we can't release this stuff 417 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 2: because it's part of an ongoing investigation. 418 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: Well, I think that was part of his ploy, but 419 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: it ain't gonna work. The public opinion is too strong, 420 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: and that's why Trump changed directions. He launched that investigation 421 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: on what Friday after we got off the air. I 422 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: think by Sunday night he was full bore. You all 423 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: got to vote for this. He had flipped completely. Yeah. 424 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, some Republicans have said that the release could damage 425 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 2: the reputations and people who have attended at Stein's parties 426 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 2: but not engaged in any wrongdoing. But Rocana, who is 427 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 2: a grand standing, hypocritical America hating jackass, says, if you 428 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: showed up at Epstein's rape Island, I don't have that 429 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 2: much sympathy if your name gets released. 430 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: But this is how inuendo works. 431 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: Wow, because there's going to be a lot of people 432 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: well right, exactly, this is how inuenda works. And I, 433 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: you know, as I explained to earlier, having you know, 434 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 2: hung around some fairly wild people at various times in 435 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,719 Speaker 2: my life. There are different levels of the inner sanctum, 436 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 2: and not everybody gets to the inner inner sanctum where 437 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: you got seventeen year old girls running around. So you 438 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: could easily have come up against this guy and be 439 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: completely innocent of anything other than you want to go 440 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: to a party where Bill Gates is, and he famously 441 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: had dinner parties with like Katie Curic and Martha Stuart, 442 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: and you know women like that as well. If I'm 443 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 2: at a dinner party with Martha Stuart, that's not akin 444 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 2: to me raping a seventeen year old anyway, the island 445 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 2: is deaf a different level of I'm partying with Jeffrey Epstein, 446 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 2: but even that that's still innuendo unless there's some sort 447 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: of evidence. 448 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: The when makes a difference, though. The reason Larry Summers 449 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: is in so much trouble and had to back down 450 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: from everything is how many people are we gonna find 451 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: out we're interacting with Jeffrey Epstein flying on his plane 452 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: going to his island after. 453 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 2: He'd already been caught and convicted right the first time? 454 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: What, Yeah, that's what's amazing. We read a piece from 455 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 1: National Review yesterday Rich Lowry had written, and I came 456 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: across another one from a journalist I don't remember right now, 457 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: saying basically the same thing. How gross this is for 458 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: all of us to find out that at the highest 459 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: level of rich, powerful, you just overlook all kinds of 460 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: gross things that you've heard about or seen or they've 461 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: been convicted of to be in that group, and tons 462 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: of people where you're Larry Summers, Bill Clinton, whoever the 463 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: hell it is, business people. 464 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, he's got you know, he got convicted 465 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 2: of something whatever. I'm still gonna be at his party 466 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: and fly at his plane and do these things and 467 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 2: go to the fundraiser because we're all in this tiny 468 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 2: little group where we all look out for each other 469 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 2: and nobody will ever find out about it because we 470 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: keep this stuff secret. That is absolutely true. And I 471 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: referred to the joonas Sarah piece from the Free Press, 472 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 2: which we'll get to next hour. He spent an enormous 473 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 2: amount of time plowing through all these emails and that 474 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 2: have been really so far. And his takeaway of the 475 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 2: very short version is not that there was you know, 476 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: specific nefarious uh uh, you know, plotting going on or 477 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: anything like that, but the lack of giving a damn 478 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: by these people about what this guy was and what 479 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: he had done, as you just described it pretty well. 480 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: Uh, they didn't care. 481 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 2: Because it's you gotta be in the in crowd, and 482 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: he was. He was like one of the biggest deals 483 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: ever in the in crowd. 484 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 485 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 2: I don't I don't like cynicism. I'm a big, big 486 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 2: fan of skepticism, okay, and I don't want to turn 487 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 2: people cynical about their country and the law and the 488 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 2: rest of it. 489 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: But here's a great example of what we're talking about. 490 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: This happens to be a Democrat, but in twenty nineteen, 491 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris said this about so called dark money, you're 492 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: dark money fundraisers who don't disclose their donors and then 493 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 2: hand out money. George Soros and that company, and they 494 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 2: exist on the right. She said this, It does not 495 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 2: represent justice in America when dark money is fueling elections, 496 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 2: and when the few who have the greatest amount of 497 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 2: wealth behind a veil, without even presenting themselves or their names, 498 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 2: manipulate and fuel the election process. Then during her campaign, 499 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: she took in millions and millions of dollars of dark 500 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 2: money to her packs, mountainous amounts of money. These people 501 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 2: have no principles. Their only principles are power, the accumulation 502 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: of power, and money to a large extent. 503 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so again we read that piece yesterday and Rich 504 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: Lowry National Review has been in politics his whole life, 505 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: in DC and around there, and he said, friends and 506 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: family are always, you know, cynical the way Joe just 507 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: described it, and he has to talk them down saying, no, 508 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: it's not as bad as you've heard. And that's what 509 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: Mark Alprin said. Reporter Mark Helprin said on his video 510 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: cast last night. He said, my whole life I've been 511 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: telling people it's not as bad as you think. Everybody's 512 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: not in it for themselves. They're not all corrupt blah 513 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: blah blah. And he said in this story, he said, 514 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: the more I look into it makes it look like 515 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: I was wrong all these years that at the highest 516 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: levels they run in certain circles and look out for 517 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: each other and ignore all kinds of wrongdoing to be 518 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: part of some sort of super powerful rich guy club. Yeah. 519 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: Well, my final pronouncement on that topic is our very 520 00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 2: system of government was designed because the founding pops knew 521 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 2: that you had to presume guilt, you know, guilty until 522 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 2: proven innocent if you are trusted with power in government, 523 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 2: because they knew human nature and they knew the way 524 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: people behave. Speaking of human nature, thieves gonna thief. And 525 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 2: that's why simply Save home security is so great. It 526 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 2: doesn't react after an intruder has broken in your windows. 527 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: Simply Safe is different. 528 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 2: They take action before Simply safe live agents get the 529 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 2: heads up from the AI powered cameras that somebody's lurking 530 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: around your house. They can immediately let that junkie jackass 531 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: know they're on camera. And if they don't leave, the 532 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 2: cops are. 533 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: On their way. Why wouldn't you try it? 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But later I'll 551 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: tell a story I heard yesterday about these movie screening 552 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: parties that Epstein would throw in New York, that everybody 553 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: would go to the rich and powerful, the big movies 554 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: that come out, they see them like two months before 555 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: we do all together in a room with a fabulous buffet, 556 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: hanging out with each other, with Jeffrey Epstein walking around, 557 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: because he's the guy that put it all together, right 558 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: for instance, isn't that something? And you got to be 559 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: able to tell your friends. I've already seen Titanic. I 560 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: saw it two months ago with uh I was there 561 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: with the Leonardo was there, and Bill Clinton was there, 562 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: and that's what his life was, absolutely wonderful. The Bloga 563 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: Caviar was to die for. And Epstein was the guy 564 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: that put that kind of stuff together. Yeah, he was 565 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: one of the world's greatest networkers and a perv. Yeah 566 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: we got email on the way and a bunch of 567 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: other stuff. Stay here. Yeah, Larry Summers lost another job, 568 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: this time with Open AI. The details of what he 569 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: was trying to do with the hot young economist and 570 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: how that's all known and his wife and everything like that. 571 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get to that later in the show. 572 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: Oh, here's your freedom loving quote? What who's your freedom 573 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: loving quote of the day? 574 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: I like this one. It's from John Lennon. 575 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 2: Yes, imagine as an insipid song, but he was an 576 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: intriguing guy, very bright. When I was five years old, 577 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 2: my mother always told me that happiness was the key 578 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 2: to life. When I went to school, they asked me 579 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 2: what I wanted to be when I grew up. I 580 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: wrote down happy. They told me I didn't understand the assignment, 581 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: and I told them they didn't understand life. 582 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: Wow, that is good. That really is as good. 583 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 2: How old was he well, he says he's a young 584 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: five years old. It's no doubt an apocryphal tale, but 585 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 2: it's an intriguing thought. 586 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: By the way, I watched enough of that Beatles documentary. 587 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: I was watching someone the last night. 588 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: Paul is like ninety percent of the Beatles. I disagree, 589 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 2: but I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. 590 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 2: He's definitely a very very large percent of what elevated 591 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 2: them from a rock and roll band. But anyway, another 592 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,479 Speaker 2: will poor people to death with that topic. Maybe on 593 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 2: a podcast or something, sure mail bag. Although he kids, 594 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: I always I'm frustrated. I watched YouTube videos about music 595 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: all the time, and I'm a frustrated people who obviously 596 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: don't have the rights to actually play the music they're 597 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: talking about. 598 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: To illustrate. 599 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 2: Their point is somewhat unsatisfying. In the world of music 600 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: hasn't figured out podcasts. The whole playing a song on 601 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: the radio thing is old haad. Everybody knows what the 602 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: contracts are with the rights are, what the fees are, 603 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. But podcasting is a brave new world. 604 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: Nobody's figured it out yet. 605 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: Thet's why we can't really use songs in podcasts anyway. 606 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: Moving along, this is tension Jack from Jeff. Driving to work, 607 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 2: a gentleman had to swerve to avoid a box that 608 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 2: fell out. 609 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: Of a truck in front of them. 610 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: Cop sees him do it, it pulls them over for reckless driving. Fortunately, 611 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 2: another officer and seeing the cart and in the road 612 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 2: and said, no, you shouldn't give the guy a ticket. 613 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 2: So the cop takes the box. He looks in the 614 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: box contains all these large upholstery tax and I'm sorry, sir. 615 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 2: The trooper tails the driver. I'm still gonna have to 616 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: write you a ticket. Amazed, and driver asked for what. 617 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 2: Trooper replies, tax evasion? Oh wow, I'm not sure the 618 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: juice was worth the extended squeeze there. 619 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: That was a long way to drive Dad, we drove 620 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: this all this. 621 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 2: Way for this yeah yeah, and now looking back at 622 00:32:54,520 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 2: it and printed it's better over along. Marina writes, guy's 623 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: guest on Fox had the best line for a T shirt. 624 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: According to Democrats, men make the best women. That's good. 625 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 2: That's good. 626 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: It's the point I've made many times. 627 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 2: You know, the transgender thing has taught us this, ladies, 628 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: is all these transgender guys one pageants. Men are better 629 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 2: at everything, including being women. You have to accept. 630 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: It that women would be standing up against this, but 631 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: so far not. 632 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 2: And also reasons we've discussed. Yeah, a nice note from 633 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 2: we'll just say Mac, who sends us historical notes semi regularly. 634 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 2: People should be reminded it was on today's very date, 635 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 2: in eighteen sixty three, that President Lincoln, at the dedication 636 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: of the National Cemetery, delivered the Gettysburg Address, widely considered 637 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 2: to be one of the finest and most noble speeches 638 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 2: in American history. 639 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: It's Mike, Okay, thanks Mike. And what should be remembered 640 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: more than anything out of that is it's incredibly short. 641 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: What is it like two hundred words or something like that. 642 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: You can have a speech that people remember and recite forever. 643 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: That's a couple hundred words long. Length is not the key, 644 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: but for some reason it was mocked by the media 645 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: at the time. Part people still think length is the 646 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: key to make an impact. You got to talk for 647 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: like forty five minutes or an hour, an hour and 648 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: a half. 649 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no. I was going to memorize 650 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 2: the Gettysburg address. I decided on that one day and 651 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 2: put about twenty minutes into it and said I would 652 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 2: come back to it the next day. 653 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 1: I never did. Nice effort. 654 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Ah twenty minutes, huh. I'll just say 655 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 2: and that may be an exaggeration, Michael, I'll just say 656 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 2: first initial Jay who I hesitate to platform, But it's 657 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 2: a good example of what the world is like. Looking 658 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 2: forward to tomorrow's show to hear the utter bullless and 659 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 2: coping about Epstein to make the calculated decision and never 660 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 2: mentioned Massy saying Epstein has ties to the CIA and Masad. 661 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: You're both cowards and frauds. 662 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 2: And I hope you know to the core of your 663 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 2: being it was under your watch, your generation, your libertarian 664 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 2: Republican garbage, that the country was destroyed. My generation is 665 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 2: taking down the swamp. My generation will regain American sovereignty 666 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 2: from Israel and Zinus control. My generation will fight back 667 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 2: against demographic replacement. My generation will fight the culture war 668 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 2: against feminism and LGBT. 669 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: Please try and not f it up more than you 670 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: already have. 671 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: Sincerely, jay Ah, the angry young man and at the 672 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 2: root of it is the Jews. Good to see that 673 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 2: back for the twenty seventh time, and the hyper confidence 674 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 2: of the angry young man. That's original too, because you've 675 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 2: figured out everything. 676 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: Congratulations, Well, I know people like that. Men and women 677 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: who have that exactly that attitude could have written that email. 678 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: I just the thing I wonder is what percentage that is? 679 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 1: I wish I had a better idea of what percentage 680 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 1: of people are that. I assume he's unhappy with Trump 681 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: at this point. And finally, how much time do we have? 682 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 2: Michael about forty seconds? Forty seconds? JT and Livermore rights 683 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 2: contral to Jack's claim that MTG is about as MAGA 684 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 2: as anyone in America. You can't be MAGO without being 685 00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 2: pro Trump. Trump and MAGA are synonymous, That's what Trump says. Second, 686 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 2: MTG went off to deep end years ago. Her break 687 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 2: with Trump is not actually new in particular, As far 688 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 2: back as twenty twenty one, she started spouting her anti 689 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 2: Semitic bs about Jewish lasers starting California wildfires, the Rothschild's genocide, genocide, 690 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 2: and Gaza, et cetera. 691 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: You say Trump is maga, we will find out. Trump 692 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: says it is a whole bunch of people out there 693 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: saying no, he's not. We're maga, like that guy earlier 694 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: with his email. We'll see how big that crowd is, 695 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: how much power they have over the Republican Party. We 696 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: have so much to talk about it. I hope you 697 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: can stay with us if you miss a second to 698 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty