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Speaker 1: I'm Laura Sanko and I am here for Room Service

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Speaker 1: Diaries with Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: And Brian Campbell, and I am pumped at be here. Man,

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Speaker 2: I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: I've seen this show, always wanted to be on it,

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Speaker 1: so I got the VIP treatment today.

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Speaker 3: Ye come on bringing in? How are you you know?

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Speaker 3: You know this is JABRONI I do.

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Speaker 4: In person.

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Speaker 1: Well, what I know about Luke and Brian is that

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Speaker 1: they are some of the best minds in this sport.

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Speaker 3: What are you doing?

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're just They're just good guys. They're like

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Speaker 2: having a good time. I have no idea what to

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Speaker 2: expect from this.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, even though I watched some of the Room Service

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Speaker 1: Diaries shows as Oh.

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Speaker 2: Jesus fuck, this is nothing like what I thought it

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Speaker 2: would look like.

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Speaker 5: It's even sadder.

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Speaker 2: You never know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these two a little bit of a wild card.

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Speaker 1: They could take it any direction they want, and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Gay, let's do it.

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Speaker 6: If you have any play changes, strategies you want to

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Speaker 6: you know, instilled before this, absolutely zero, you know, I

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Speaker 6: try to live my life a quarter mile.

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Speaker 2: It's the doctor. I'm just trying to figure it out.

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Speaker 4: She's a fighter, She is a YouTube star, she's an analyst.

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Speaker 4: She's many things, including the first Lady of the Contender series,

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Speaker 4: and now she joins us in our Pathetic studios for a.

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Speaker 3: Conversation about it.

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Speaker 5: A broadcaster, official broadcaster.

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Speaker 4: It's Laura Sank Swiss Army Knife, Swiss Army Knife. How

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Speaker 4: are you doing, Laura, I'm doing great.

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Speaker 2: You could not look any bigger than you do right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they do this to me. They fuck with me

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Speaker 4: here on the show, and I want them all to die.

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Speaker 4: Don't want you all.

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Speaker 1: I forget how tall, but really both of you. I

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Speaker 1: forget how tall both of you are.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm.

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Speaker 2: Just used to seeing your little heads. Yeah on screen.

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Speaker 6: Now that's my superpower to project fat and weak on

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Speaker 6: the camera and then you know, project tall and weak.

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Speaker 4: You know upon but he's.

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Speaker 2: Really taken over the shot. But I like it. I

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Speaker 2: like it. It's your show.

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Speaker 3: We are here.

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Speaker 4: It's UFC two eighty one, Fight Week. What they got

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Speaker 4: you doing this week?

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Speaker 2: A little bit of everything as usual. I've got the

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Speaker 2: Way and show.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow, which that's absolutely one of my favorite things to do.

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Speaker 2: I love that show.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of the first time I've

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Speaker 1: been able to, I don't know, let my personality loose

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Speaker 1: a little bit, and then on fight night I'll be

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Speaker 1: backstage doing.

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Speaker 2: Quick hits, which is like the kind of a social.

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Speaker 1: Media behind the scenes interviews with the winners and celebrities

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: So I'm a little surprised because I don't know if

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Speaker 4: it's an ESPN call or a UFC call or a

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Speaker 4: combo of both. And we'll talk about more of the commentary.

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Speaker 4: I'm surprised they don't have you on the desk in between. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: have there been any discussions about that.

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Speaker 1: If there have, I think I'm hopeful that that's going

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Speaker 1: to be a thing.

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Speaker 2: A lot of it was schedule, so like the quick

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Speaker 1: An important property for them, and they really Dane in particular,

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Speaker 1: really likes me doing it, so it's kind of it

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Speaker 1: was a thing that he started with.

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Speaker 2: Me in mind.

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Speaker 1: And then I would love to, you know, do the

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Speaker 2: It's just a little conflict of schedule, but we're working.

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Speaker 2: We're working around at Luke.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I got to say the last like, I

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Speaker 4: don't know how you feel about it. I feel like

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Speaker 4: the last four years or so they've been good years

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Speaker 4: for you, right they have? I think would you say

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Speaker 4: it's about twenty eighteen where the worm started to turn?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think.

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Speaker 1: I definitely think Contender series was the turning point for me.

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Speaker 1: In fact, a lot of people think that that's where

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Speaker 1: I started, and it's not. You know, obviously I was

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Speaker 3: And how have I mean, how's it been? Like? Tell

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Speaker 3: me what? Tell me how your life is different now?

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Speaker 4: If you can say it's weird.

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Speaker 2: I mean I just never. I sometimes have to sit back.

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Speaker 1: And pinch myself even sitting here, honestly, Like I not

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Speaker 1: that long ago, really not that long ago. I was

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Speaker 1: when the next pay per view UFC event was going

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Speaker 5: That's our lives right there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were not that frequent, and like you try.

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Speaker 1: To figure out, okay, what bar is showing it, get

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Speaker 1: all my friends together, So it really is wild to see,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, just to see what I've been able

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Speaker 2: Such a what's next? What's next? Person?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but you've made not just dramatic movements which we're

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Speaker 6: impressed by, and we congratulate you because it's not an

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Speaker 6: easy business, not an easy business to navigate. You've stuck

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Speaker 6: somebody that understands a game. And now you're not the

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Speaker 5: You've made a leap in that direction.

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Speaker 6: So you know, I'm not like, how does it feel

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Speaker 6: to represent something a little bit bigger than just Hey,

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Speaker 6: your career is going in a great direction at the moment.

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Speaker 2: It's cool.

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Speaker 1: I have a hard time using that word for myself,

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Speaker 1: but I always appreciate.

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Speaker 2: What other people do.

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Speaker 3: It's certainly pioneering work.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, I think for people who don't understand,

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Speaker 1: I think for people who don't understand the very distinct

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Speaker 3: Explain what that means lane.

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Speaker 1: So when I say lanes, you know there are there

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Speaker 2: A voice in the sport and.

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Speaker 1: Just trying to get people to listen to it and

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Speaker 1: respect it. And I know I tell you this all

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna. I'm gonna both of you.

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Speaker 1: Guys, but you in particular, like you were one of

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Speaker 1: the first, if not the first person to publicly and

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Speaker 1: outright say, wow, Laura Sanko's got smart things to say

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Speaker 1: about Mma. And it wasn't just hey, she's cute or

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Speaker 2: It meant so much to me when you when you

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Speaker 1: In fact, I like I remember, like laying in bed

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Speaker 1: because the reporters it's a really tough job.

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Speaker 2: Like Megan is so good at what she does when.

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Speaker 4: When they when they time those walkouts and she knew

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Speaker 4: I cannot. That's that's walking a tight rope. Yeah, walking

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Speaker 5: That's the taking information down off the phone at the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, she and John Annick have the hardest jobs

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Speaker 5: They're all different flexings of the muscles.

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Speaker 6: But to touch on what you feel like you kind

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Speaker 6: of overcame, we can't. You know, we weren't the same journey.

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Speaker 6: We're not females. It's a different but you know, we're

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Speaker 5: But somebody who obviously knows the shit.

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Speaker 6: So I think we can at least relate on when

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Speaker 6: It doesn't mean more than the money, the followers, the

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Speaker 1: You know, it does fuel, It does and I remember,

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Speaker 1: things to say, But there's also that that there's a

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Speaker 1: that that I that I really have to battle. But

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I know that they

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Speaker 1: respect me sitting there. It took a while. It took

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, like behind the scenes, getting their

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Speaker 1: Like it took a long time of just sort of

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 6: It also takes time to block the haters, as Luke knows,

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Speaker 6: I mean, he'll block people for looking at him the.

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Speaker 4: Wrong way on social I don't. I don't tolerate fools. Gladly, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it never will. What was the turning point was what

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Speaker 4: in position of power saw that was like, Okay, let's

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Speaker 4: give her a shot.

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Speaker 1: This is a great story, and I have to give

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Speaker 4: I'll say this, this is a true story, like it

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Speaker 3: You have to do it.

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Speaker 1: Rob Kimmens he did do muay time, but he was

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Speaker 1: I stumbled on him at like a normal weightlifting gym

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Speaker 1: And I think if I could point to it a specific.

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Speaker 6: Because your first prof your only profight was twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 2: I have eight fights?

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Speaker 2: I got waited eight times.

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Speaker 6: No, it it was a wild party girl.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know it was fight I

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Speaker 6: Great okay, but you seem like a very well adjusted,

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Speaker 6: I have so much respect for fighters, but for them,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I don't really know my my I definitely

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Speaker 2: It was like val salutatorian in Kansas City. Yeah, I lived.

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Speaker 2: I lived here in New York.

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Speaker 1: Of your high school, I was and I was graduated

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Speaker 1: fifth in my class at college, like I was always you.

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Speaker 2: Know after that, Wow, Summa cum Lay.

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Speaker 6: You're more of Luke Thomas area because William and Mary grad.

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, but that's people that need those things, yeah, sororities, fraternities,

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Speaker 2: I have a not so secret crush on his vocabulary, Like.

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Speaker 1: I there are literally times where I just gush over

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Speaker 4: You you know, It's so unlike all my other experiences

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Speaker 3: Like, why are you talking like that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, that's just how I fucking talk. I know.

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Speaker 6: I love he would be willing to dye his hair

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Speaker 6: But he likes the old you know, I'm going.

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Speaker 4: Gray like it's a contest. I mean, I really, it's

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Speaker 4: just when they won't stop it, just the gray, just

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Speaker 4: as eating meal. You can fight back though, No no,

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Speaker 4: not with that shoe Polos fucking Elvis pres you.

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Speaker 5: Over did at that time?

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Speaker 4: This guy do it? Oh Laura, he.

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Speaker 2: Was is this die right?

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Speaker 4: No? No, no, no, no, no, No, he will show up like

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Speaker 6: In the last in the sixteen comeback special with the leather,

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Speaker 6: black leather, I mean, I was just jet black, but

445
00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:52,960
Speaker 6: it didn't work.

446
00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,720
Speaker 2: Why do men feel like that matters?

447
00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:55,199
Speaker 3: I don't know.

448
00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:56,480
Speaker 4: I don't think it doesn't matter.

449
00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,600
Speaker 6: Men are insecure, that's why, well so are we.

450
00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,560
Speaker 1: But like it just I'm telling you, as a woman

451
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,600
Speaker 1: of a certain age, I'm a few weeks out from

452
00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:06,240
Speaker 1: turning forty.

453
00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:07,840
Speaker 2: Like, it doesn't. It does not matter.

454
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:08,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, welcome to it.

455
00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:09,800
Speaker 3: Image doesn't matter, Yeah, it does.

456
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,320
Speaker 2: Well, image does. But gray hair doesn't.

457
00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:12,240
Speaker 3: Oh great hair doesn't.

458
00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,080
Speaker 2: Like you can't be a fat giant like slob, but

459
00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:16,240
Speaker 2: you know gray hair.

460
00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:17,480
Speaker 5: I mean, Luke's just silver fox.

461
00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,760
Speaker 1: You're both silver foxes. If you would just own it, Brian, like,

462
00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:21,720
Speaker 1: let let it let.

463
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,480
Speaker 3: It shine, let the gray, let the gray.

464
00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,639
Speaker 6: Just take you away from that factory town, hero, just

465
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,440
Speaker 6: realize that the factories are closed.

466
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,000
Speaker 4: Every time I look in the mirror, I'm like, how

467
00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,640
Speaker 4: the fuck did I turn into Gandalf?

468
00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:31,359
Speaker 3: Overnight?

469
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:31,920
Speaker 4: Yeah?

470
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,639
Speaker 3: Overnight? Overnight?

471
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,479
Speaker 2: When you posted that picture of you as a marine.

472
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,760
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, nineteen years old in that picture, Yeah, nineteen

473
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,360
Speaker 4: years old. And someone in in the comments was like, hey,

474
00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,960
Speaker 4: you don't look half bad. I'm like, I haven't always

475
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 4: been a dodge Omni. I might be one now, but

476
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,719
Speaker 4: I haven't always been a dodge Omney. Fuck you, You've

477
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 4: always been a dodge.

478
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,120
Speaker 5: No, no, no, you know I'm one. I was appreciated

479
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:54,320
Speaker 5: and you're torn.

480
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,320
Speaker 6: Looking at You're like, he may have had a prime

481
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 6: it's possible.

482
00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 2: Well he proved it today on Twitter.

483
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, post post your nineteen year old picture.

484
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,639
Speaker 5: Fucker, I had a goatee that curled under to heir?

485
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 4: Did you did stop?

486
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,640
Speaker 5: Did you wear next? Seven? And eight?

487
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,879
Speaker 6: And you know those two calendar years, I did not

488
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 6: do well with the ladies. So it's not it's not

489
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 6: a it's not a you know, it's not a surprise, right.

490
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 4: Laura, Let's get back to this for just a second.

491
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,880
Speaker 4: If we may have been talking about him, I thought

492
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 4: my transition, I mean, it was describing living in the

493
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 4: no fucking section. As interesting as that is.

494
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Speaker 1: Uh.

495
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Speaker 4: I have to tell you, though, I do wonder about

496
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 4: some of the attitudes you might get in the sport right,

497
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,400
Speaker 4: because online it's just hard to tell what.

498
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 3: The perception is. I see a lot of positivity around.

499
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, look at this woman doing this amazing things.

500
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 4: And I had my wife listen to your commentary and

501
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 4: the first thing she said was.

502
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Speaker 3: Like, Yo, she does her homework like it was just

503
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:44,160
Speaker 3: obviously a parent.

504
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 5: His wife once rolled with roxam on of fire.

505
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 3: That's true, really, yeah, yeah she did.

506
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 5: But oh you thought I was going to demean her,

507
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 5: that beautiful one.

508
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you did, we'd have some problems.

509
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,399
Speaker 4: But but on the other side, I do wonder what

510
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 4: it's like because I don't have your job, I don't

511
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 4: have your laugh and I have your career. But every

512
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 4: time I put out even a video where I'm breaking

513
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 4: down something, yeah, I always wonder, like, you know, is

514
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 4: it going to be accepted or whatnot? You got a

515
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 4: job doing commentary still with contender theories not full on

516
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 4: UFC events before any other female fighters got it. Yeah,

517
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 4: I wonder if you faced any pushback for that?

518
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 1: Well, for sure, I mean there's there there's a whole

519
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,679
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have to dig very hard on

520
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 1: Twitter to find there's a whole contingent of people that

521
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 1: love to point out like well, even just the other day,

522
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: I did another radio show and I was, you know,

523
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 1: like you like I do. I'm curious about how people

524
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 1: are receptive, especially when I do kind of more in

525
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 1: depth analysis and not just hey guys, here I am

526
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 1: and a.

527
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 2: Lot of positivity. But then there's like someone that's.

528
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 1: Always like she's a she's a Johnny come Lately from

529
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: ESPN that knows nothing about the sport. And I'm like, well,

530
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 1: first off, I would work for ESPN so I could

531
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 1: have all I mean, I've been I know, I don't

532
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 1: have the longest typology. I get that it's it's teeny

533
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 1: teeny tiny, but I've been in this sport, in the

534
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: in the the trenches of the sport. I'll even say

535
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,199
Speaker 1: since two thousand and six, like I'm still training. I

536
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,199
Speaker 1: just got my brown boat, Like I thank you, thank you.

537
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 2: I uh, you know.

538
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: But I just kind of I try to I try

539
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: to shake that stuff off because the people that matter

540
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: in my world, the people that are there to open

541
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 1: more doors and the doors that I really want to open,

542
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,400
Speaker 1: they get it. And so at the end of the day,

543
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: I just got to shut it out.

544
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 2: And I will say this probably more more positive than not.

545
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: I was a little scared, especially when I first did

546
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 1: the LFA fights, Like the jump from Invicta to LFA

547
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: was felt like a big jump, and then of course

548
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: the jump from LFA to Contender series also felt like

549
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: a big jump. And every time I've made that jump,

550
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: I've been pleasantly surprised by male and female reception of

551
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's a lot of like, why is it her?

552
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 6: And well, there's going to be sharks, right, yeah, if

553
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 6: it's a if it's a pool worth swimming in this

554
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 6: and I'm.

555
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: For sure listen, I'm I'm totally like everyone knows I'm

556
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: fucking Dana, and you know.

557
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 5: I wasn't expecting you to break in.

558
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 2: And any guy I've ever spent with total thoughts.

559
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 6: But do you echo what like the pro wrestlers will

560
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 6: say when they retire. What I learned in this business

561
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 6: is you can either have friends or make money. I mean,

562
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 6: at some point in this game, maybe in any corporate

563
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 6: structure where people are trying to make their moves, you

564
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 6: do have to at some point protect the brand right

565
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 6: and just not and be like I mean, Luke doesn't

566
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 6: give a damn. I actually respect it to it I

567
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 6: don't get it, but like he does me. Damn what

568
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 6: people what his followers He's like thirty dollars to ask

569
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 6: a single question, but they still pay it, Luke. But

570
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 6: you you don't care about them at all. But us

571
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 6: normal people.

572
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,239
Speaker 5: We have like heartstrings and like a reactive.

573
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 4: Sometimes in no way, shape or form or you a

574
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 4: normal person.

575
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 3: I want to know.

576
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess you gotta just you know, is

577
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 5: there a question there?

578
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 6: No, it's just it's just people that you know, people

579
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 6: that have crawled through and made it, Luke. They like

580
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,239
Speaker 6: to have sometimes like to sit around and just talk

581
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 6: about the war stories, successful people.

582
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 4: Yes, I will say this, and hearing you talk about

583
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 4: this and like, you know, some of the bullshit I've

584
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 4: done to get ahead at all. I hate the things

585
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 4: you have to do to win in this world. I

586
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 4: really do like the you have to like you gotta

587
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 4: play the game whatever, whatever little bit of success I've

588
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 4: tasted has taught me. It's like, now I know why

589
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 4: assholes finished first. Yeah, right, don't you feel that way?

590
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: I do.

591
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: I do, But I'm genuinely trying to like combat that

592
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: because I have that conversation. The conversation we're having right

593
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: now I have with myself all the time where it's

594
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 1: incredibly frustrating when certain things play out the way that

595
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 1: they do, or certain people have attitudes that are completely

596
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: unjust and unprovoked and whatever. There's a lot of like,

597
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: she shouldn't be having the success she's having.

598
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: So let's you know.

599
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 4: It has been fast, I will say that, yeah, Or

600
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 4: I know you worked all that time and then there

601
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 4: was the turning points that around twenty efteen or so,

602
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 4: but it has been meteoric since then, anyway, for sure.

603
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,719
Speaker 1: It has, and I've worked my ass off for it.

604
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: That's probably part.

605
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 5: I get a long.

606
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 6: Time in the cocoon before the wing show.

607
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, fair enough, seeing that.

608
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 2: I'm still wiggling that cocoon over here.

609
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 6: I don't remember what the question, Yeah, we neither, but

610
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 6: I got a great follow up, all right. So the

611
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 6: real drug in this game and broadcasting, in my opinion,

612
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 6: is being able to lay your finger on a fight.

613
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 6: At the soundtrack, You're not in the cage anymore, you know,

614
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 6: I'm not in the boxing ring, but somebody decided it

615
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 6: was a good idea to pay me money to put

616
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 6: on a suit and help, you know, author or throw

617
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 6: a dab of myself onto the soundtrack of the call

618
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 6: being there as a drug, separate from the money, the prestige,

619
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 6: the oh, this is all I ever wanted to do

620
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 6: but didn't think I could actually get here. The drug

621
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 6: of me showing up every time is that I am

622
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 6: inches away from a live fight, and whatever the hell

623
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 6: I react is the record of No. You know, I'm

624
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 6: not trying to put too much pressure on a call

625
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 6: because you can watch it without the volume like Luke

626
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 6: and nobody knows what we're talking about. But do you

627
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 6: feel that drug every can series when you go out there,

628
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 6: that there's an energy, there's something insanely fun and dangerous here,

629
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 6: and I'm right in the midst of it one hundred percent.

630
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: I do.

631
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: And it's not unlike fighting, It really isn't.

632
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,959
Speaker 1: And that's probably why I was so drawn to this

633
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 1: side of things, because when I knew I wasn't going

634
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: to return to fighting after having my son, I had

635
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: to stay close to the sport, like it's too much

636
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: in me, It's too much in my bones, too much

637
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: a part of my day to day life to just

638
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: not be involved. Somehow, I would have been a manager

639
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: or an aid in something, But yeah, to sit there

640
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: and to be able to I think the word you

641
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: used is perfect to author to communicate the art that

642
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: someone is displaying.

643
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 2: And I think, I think for me.

644
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 1: Because of the way that I stepped away from the

645
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: sport and like there never was an anam weight class

646
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: in the UFC, so they're like, there wasn't a reason

647
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: for me to push on that side of things. I

648
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: think that I live vicariously through the fighters, and I

649
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: mean all of them, Like when loser draw, you might

650
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: even be fighting a teammate. Of mind, I still care

651
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 1: about telling your stories as properly as I can, and

652
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: when I say story, like the story of how you

653
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: express yourself in a fight, and doing my best to

654
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: do it justice and to me, because I don't have

655
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: a belt to point at or a long tepology page

656
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: or whatever, I know I have to compensate right and

657
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: I do that by doing an inordinate amount of research

658
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: on everything I can, which, let me tell you, with Road.

659
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 4: To UFC not easy.

660
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: It's so hard.

661
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 4: The names alone are hard to pronounce.

662
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: I I'm not overly proud of my commentary on that

663
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: show because it is so incredibly difficult to keep the

664
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: names straight and to keep people's story straight and we

665
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: don't have any background information on them. It's very different

666
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: even than Contender series. We don't get like the sit down,

667
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: like kind of get to know them as a person

668
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: and be able to attach a story to who they

669
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: are as a fighters.

670
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 3: Two man boosts, not a three man correct yes.

671
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: And I'm the only yes exactly.

672
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: That was another jump that felt scary at the time

673
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: because there's a little part of me that's like, well,

674
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: they'll accept me as this third wheel that chimes in

675
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: and says things here and there.

676
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 2: But you know, which is totally fine. I don't mind that.

677
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 2: I actually like that role.

678
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: I get that DC, Mike Bissbing, Paul Felder, whoever, those

679
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: are the guys I just want, like a seat at

680
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: the table. But then when I'm the only one at

681
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: the Tablet's say, well here we go.

682
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 4: You know, for women who want to get into broadcasting

683
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 4: in combat sports, what's your advice, what's the what are

684
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 4: a couple of good lessons you've learned?

685
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: You have to do a lot for free first, and

686
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: a lot ye and that, and just accept that. Like

687
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: the first MMA media gig I had was for when

688
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: Titan FC was back in Kansas, City all the time,

689
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: the old days on Access TV. I just really wanted

690
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: to go to the fights because a lot of my

691
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: friends were fighting on it and I just wanted to

692
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: go to the fights and sit cage side. So I

693
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: offered I don't remember the name of the blog, but

694
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: I offered some blog like, Hey, I'll sit there and

695
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: type out blow by blow horrible recaps like then he

696
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: threw a left hand next, like it was atrocious.

697
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: Who would want to read that? But it was a reason,

698
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: like I got a ticket.

699
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: I didn't make any money, but I got a ticket

700
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: and I got to sit right next to the action.

701
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: And that was like, that was two thousand and nine.

702
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 2: So all those.

703
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 6: Hours matter, by the way, in the end they all

704
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 6: and they all put make the puzzle.

705
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 5: They're all important pieces.

706
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: They did.

707
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: So like even as an amateur, I obviously wasn't anywhere

708
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: close to commentating and communicating what I was seeing, but

709
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,479
Speaker 1: I was looking at fights differently I think than I

710
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: would have otherwise, for sure.

711
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 3: So anything else besides working for free to start, okay.

712
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: So working for free at the start and just accept

713
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: that that's okay. If you have specific sites set on

714
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: the UFC or a big promotion, Like, you've got to

715
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: figure out what promotion is, A is a feeder to

716
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: that promotion and try to like and if you can't

717
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: get it in with a fight pass uh promotion, then

718
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: you figure out, okay, who feeds into those you know?

719
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: And then start start climbing the ladder and start putting

720
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: yourself out there and offering to do things like I

721
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: think that's the biggest thing to you. You can't wait

722
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: for opportunities to come to.

723
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 6: No one's going to be able to advocate for you

724
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 6: better than yourself. And I had to learn it, like corporately,

725
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 6: the long hard way of like you, hard work isn't enough.

726
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 5: You got you know, if the.

727
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 6: Person above you that has the ability to hire you

728
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 6: doesn't know that you're interested in being hired, it's the

729
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 6: end of the conversation right there, right you know.

730
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: You have to you have to chase it down.

731
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: You got to call up that local promotion and say, hey,

732
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: I know you're not on TV, but like I could

733
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: do some interviews and put them on a YouTube page.

734
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: Oh you don't never really thought about that, you know,

735
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: anything like that, And and then just don't don't stop.

736
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: But in terms of like specifically being a woman.

737
00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 4: I think.

738
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: Is the I have to be twice as good rule.

739
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, fact, yeah for sure.

740
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: And I and I'm mortified when I make mistakes, like

741
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: mortified to the point where it really keeps me up

742
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: and I can I'm running through them in my head

743
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: right now. And you know, the guys that do the

744
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: commentary make mistakes all the time and it's no big

745
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: deal because people make mistakes. You're gonna use the wrong

746
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: name for a submission or whatever. It's really hard to

747
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: talk for seven hours, yes, and not say something that's

748
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: not perfectly correct, right, But yeah, every I do feel

749
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: the pressure.

750
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: To to not fuck up.

751
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: And because it's not just about me. Again, I don't.

752
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: I don't again, I don't like using the word pioneer.

753
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: But I do feel like responsibility there is, there is

754
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: a mantle of responsibility because if whoever it is but

755
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: it happens to me, it happens to be me, goes

756
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: out there and completely bombs or is feeds into some

757
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: sort of stereotype that people might have about a female

758
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: commentator and everyone's like, oh, we didn't like that. That

759
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: ruins it for a lot of other women. And there

760
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: are a lot of women coming up that are going

761
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: to be capable of doing this job very soon. I

762
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: feel like I think I said this to you when

763
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 1: we did our interview right after I'd got the Contender

764
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: series Gig. I happen to be at a very unique

765
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: crossroads of having the fight knowledge, having the actual practical knowledge,

766
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: the jiu jitsu knowledge, the striking knowledge, and then having

767
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: the television shops. Enough of the television shops. There just

768
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: are not that many women who live at that crossroads yet,

769
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: but they're coming up.

770
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: And I hope that the.

771
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 6: Future is female everyone. Let you know that, Luke.

772
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 4: Okay, the future isn't.

773
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not exclusively female.

774
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 5: All the future is.

775
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 3: We certainly hope.

776
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 4: Now to backtrack on your story a little bit here,

777
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 4: just so I have all the pieces in place.

778
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 3: You got the very first like real Gig.

779
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, was what like something on YouTube for you know,

780
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 4: fuck face MMA doesn't count.

781
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: Okay, Real Gig would have been in Victa.

782
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: Okay, I have to get that gig.

783
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: H Shannon Knapp, the owner at the time, literally called

784
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: me out of nowhere. I had either just had my

785
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: son or I was maybe even still pregnant at the time.

786
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: I think I had just had my son, and she

787
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: probably knew, you know, MMA was not ever gonna be

788
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: I shouldn't it.

789
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: I wanted to have an MMA career if if it.

790
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: Was going to be in the UFC, but for invicted

791
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: to be the APEX was not enough for me financially

792
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 1: or time wise. So I think she kind of knew that,

793
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: and she just called me out of nowhere and was like, Hey,

794
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: Marlo's Coonan is coming to town. We don't have a

795
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: sideline reporter. Would you be willing to interview her on air?

796
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: And I said yes, And then I proceeded to say,

797
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: but Shannon, you do know I've never held a microphone before,

798
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,239
Speaker 1: I've never looked at a camera before. I don't And

799
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: she's like, you'll be fine. I can tell you're gonna

800
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: be good at this. So kudos to her too.

801
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: And that led to Fox Sports, and that.

802
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: Led to Yes.

803
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: That led to an audition with with Fox Sports, specifically

804
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 1: for the UFC.

805
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: It wasn't like Fox Sports in general, they were. They

806
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 2: auditioned me.

807
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: Actually, they auditioned me as an anchor and I had

808
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: never worked with multiple cameras.

809
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: I had never worked with.

810
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 5: It was awful.

811
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 2: It was so awful.

812
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 3: People don't.

813
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,439
Speaker 4: I mean, I have a hard time with it still

814
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 4: if they don't have the trail lights on them, it's.

815
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: I never I'd never read from a teleprompter like that's

816
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: still to this day that's the only time I've ever

817
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: read from a teleprompter, which is incredibly I mean, I could,

818
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I get Ron Burgundy, I understand his paint.

819
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: They could have put anything in there.

820
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 3: And so did you do?

821
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 4: So you didn't do any PBC on boxing now with

822
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 4: you with Fox just I did not.

823
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 2: I did not just UFC.

824
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 1: So they they auditioned me, and I'm sure they were like, well,

825
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: she is definitely not cut out to be an anchor,

826
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: but nose or shipped.

827
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: So let's see how she does as a reporter.

828
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 4: But even though when I were ESPN, because contendacaries didn't

829
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 4: start till the ESPN era.

830
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 2: Correct, No, it was before it was on Fight Pass.

831
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 3: Only, that's right, Yeah, that's right.

832
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, back in the back.

833
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: In the old school, it was ninety I'm not exaggerating,

834
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: ninety seven degrees where you see me doing those interviews

835
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: in this hallway, ninety seven degrees and full of marijuana

836
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: smoke in the in the first few weeks when they

837
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: were just letting Snoop do his thing.

838
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: Oh it was incredible. What a time to be alive.

839
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 6: Run me of this studio.

840
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: I was hoping for more of a cloud when I.

841
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 4: Walked in to Beyond Well camera.

842
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 6: Mean of all, you know vaped in ingested edibles instead

843
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 6: of smoking right in front of us. They're very strategic

844
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 6: in they're intake, you know, big fans of these guys.

845
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: Everyone looks very mellow as I look as.

846
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 4: I look out well, I mean, TikTok is very important

847
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 4: when you're filming a show, you know.

848
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't see how Luke had got You know, Greg,

849
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 6: I love you as a broadcast here, but you did

850
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 6: something most of us scumbag MMA media members will never do.

851
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 5: And in twenty thirteen, is it in.

852
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 6: Victa three, Victor four, Victor four four you took on

853
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 6: hey recent VKFC fighter.

854
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I forgot about that, Yeah yeah.

855
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 6: And I believe you submitted her in round one. So this,

856
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 6: you know, not footnote of your life. This, in a

857
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 6: lot of ways is most responsible for the work you're

858
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 6: doing right now, right, I mean, you live that life.

859
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 6: How do you look back on that as like, oh

860
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 6: that was awesome when I was awesome, or I mean,

861
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 6: where were you where was your headspace turning pro in

862
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 6: twenty thirteen.

863
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 2: You know, at the time, I really I thought it

864
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: was going.

865
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: To be off to the races just to see, okay,

866
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: just to see what I could do and invicted because again,

867
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: this is pre Rnda. It's right before Ronda, but it's

868
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: still pre Randa, and we don't really know is this

869
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: experiment of women in MMA going to be a real

870
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: thing or not, or is it just going to be like, oh,

871
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: let's have Rondo then nevermind. So it very much felt

872
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: like I was at the apex of MMA for women.

873
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 4: At the time.

874
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 6: I know, when Cyborg had opened people's eyes that it's possible.

875
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 5: Yes, a lot of ways, yes, but it hadn't taken yet.

876
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 4: Right before when I first started covering MMA, they're three

877
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 4: minute rounds exactly for women.

878
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 3: Like that was that changed while I was covering the ship?

879
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: It was, Yeah, it was very very different times.

880
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: But I did envision like, oh, I'm gonna do this

881
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I'm gonna work my ass up and

882
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: become an evicted champion. You know, I was on that

883
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: card with Amana Nunaz and Paige van z Ant and

884
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: Carla Sparza, and I think Jessica Penny was on it,

885
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: Like you go down that card in particular, it's just

886
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: this All Stars, All Stars. It's it's awesome to see.

887
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: But at the time I thought that was it, and

888
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: it was.

889
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: It was an incredible experience and I'm glad I did it.

890
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: But it is frustrating at times to not have more

891
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: fights to point out in this position, because that's, honestly, like,

892
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: the biggest critique.

893
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 6: I get is what happened after that fight before you

894
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 6: started your family?

895
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 5: Was there was there ideas for a second fight?

896
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: Oh?

897
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: I was already in camp, Yeah, I was.

898
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: I was already I think i'd say to contract, I

899
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: at least verbally agreed to my next to my next fight.

900
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: And you know, my joke that.

901
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: I continue to just beat to death is that I

902
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: had to pull out because my husband didn't.

903
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 5: So that's a very friendly joke, to be fair.

904
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 3: That's she's right, she's right at home with that in mind.

905
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 4: With that in mind, how are your d ms these days?

906
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 4: You used to post, So let's back up a step.

907
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 3: You used to post.

908
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 4: These guys, they'd be sending like you know the worst

909
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 4: Dick pics and like pitches to you or should we

910
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 4: celebrate that? And then no, no, but then she would

911
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 4: have taken and then she would like dunk on it

912
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 4: and then post it.

913
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 3: I'm imagining they haven't.

914
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: Stopped or no, no, they haven't stopped.

915
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: I mean they've gotten uh less creative. I was always

916
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: the creative one, but I could like, yeah, it's.

917
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 4: Just just that's like his fucking dms too.

918
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 5: I don't think you can.

919
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: Prove that, but it's it is wild to me.

920
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 6: Wait, wait, wait, what tell me that I've got sending

921
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 6: me their their sticks and they know our rules we

922
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 6: can have I literally.

923
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 4: I'd tell people on air, I'm like, yo, send your

924
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 4: dick pics now, no send them, you know.

925
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 5: Just say no.

926
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 1: There was a guy for a while and I absolutely

927
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: loved it where he would send me a dick pic

928
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: every day, but it was a picture of someone named it.

929
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 5: You're way too positive about the first time I said

930
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 5: I don't.

931
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 4: Want to do this to you, you didn't let me finish.

932
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: It was a picture of someone named Dick, so it

933
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: would be Dick van Dyke or you know.

934
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 4: They were doing a big Dick cheney.

935
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 2: It was hilarious. I really genuinely. Look, I'm like, oh,

936
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: I wonder what my dick pick is for today? That guy,

937
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 2: I appreciated it.

938
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 4: You did it without you? That was your burner account.

939
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 6: You know what's interesting about the dichotomy of our characters, Luke,

940
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 6: is the me on screen is the exact opposite of

941
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 6: me in real life, and the you on screen.

942
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 5: Is the exact opposite of you.

943
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 3: And real's true.

944
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 6: You know what I mean, You're unbearable in real life.

945
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 6: I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

946
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 4: I have to tolerate you too.

947
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, that is also true. So you got a first

948
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 6: round submission against Cassie Rob. Did you take on any damage?

949
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 6: What happened to? How much did that?

950
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 5: Like? Like, shit, I'm a badass.

951
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: It's weird, you know, I have. I have some very

952
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: clear memories.

953
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm probably more proud of the fight before that, the

954
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: amateur title that I won, because it was a war

955
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: and I had my elbow pop but didn't tap and

956
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: the ref didn't see it.

957
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 2: And kind of like continued one.

958
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: I almost knocked her out with a body kick, but

959
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: she managed to. She did the whole like a and

960
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: I just wasn't you know. One hundred and five down't

961
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: I don't pack.

962
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: A lot of heat in these hands. It couldn't quite

963
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: get her out of there. But it was an absolute war.

964
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: And it was the first time I'd ever fought or

965
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: even like had uh sparred or whatever someone taller than

966
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: me at one o five, Like she's five seven one

967
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: o five, I'm very tall for one o five. Yeah,

968
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, this a bitch just huge,

969
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: not huge, but like her arms so long?

970
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 4: Did you?

971
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 3: Did you? Who cornered you for that?

972
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 4: Oh?

973
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: That would have been Let me think about this, James

974
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: Krause and.

975
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: Tim maybe Tim Elliott.

976
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: I'm I'm this is a long time ago, but I

977
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: know James did because I remember hearing his his voice

978
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: like in certain certain times I think, yeah, and like

979
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: like when she had me in the arm bar, and yeah,

980
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: it was.

981
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 2: It was cool to me because like I it was.

982
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: It was right as he was.

983
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: Transitioning from a teammate to kind of he wasn't yet

984
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 1: a coach on the team, but in that camp in particular,

985
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: like he helped me figure out some strategy for what

986
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: would work against her, and the bodykick was something that

987
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: she and he and I worked on a lot, and

988
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: so I remember him saying like.

989
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 2: That was a really cool moment for him because he was.

990
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: Like, it was the first time I like kind of

991
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: had a game plan for someone and we worked on

992
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: it and then it played out in a fight.

993
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 4: So so, what's the goal here.

994
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 3: You're trying to get on USC pay per views.

995
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: I mean that's the ultimate goal, but the immediate goal

996
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: is to be on UFC fight nights.

997
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like to do that very much.

998
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 3: So how realistic is that?

999
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: Very?

1000
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 3: Oh?

1001
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 4: It is o very have you can you share to

1002
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 4: what extent you've gotten feedback from the folks who are

1003
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 4: in charge of production about how you've done with Contender series.

1004
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: They I think they've been uh, I think they've been

1005
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised. There was I did a I did an audition,

1006
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 1: you know, because that's this is the part of stuff

1007
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: that people don't realize, Like, I've had a lot of failures.

1008
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: It's outwardly it's like, oh, this meteoric rise or whatever,

1009
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: but there's been a lot of stuff that's happened back

1010
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: behind the scenes where people have been like, oh, we're

1011
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: never going to do that, Like that's we would never

1012
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: do that, or like why would we ever, you wouldn't

1013
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: you wouldn't fit in that position, or Okay, we'll give

1014
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: you an audition and then I fucking bomb the audition

1015
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be. So it it took

1016
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: a lot to get that spot on the Contender series.

1017
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: And I knew that first show with Paul that I

1018
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: had to, like it couldn't just be pretty good.

1019
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: It couldn't just be like, oh, she was, she was, Okay.

1020
00:42:59,480 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 4: I had to.

1021
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: I had to had to. I had to.

1022
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it was perfect, but I feel

1023
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: like I achieved what I wanted to achieve. And uh yeah,

1024
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: I think as a result of that, they've they've seen

1025
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: me grow, and I think them giving me the road

1026
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: to UFC.

1027
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: I don't want to know.

1028
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it was a test, but

1029
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: to be the only color commentator now John Good and

1030
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: he knows that's a pro as much as any you know,

1031
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: so really, in many ways, like he provided a lot of.

1032
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 5: Gentleman too, Like if I was in a foreign country

1033
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 5: and got.

1034
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 6: Like shit blasted, blackout drunk and I committed like a fella,

1035
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 6: and he, like I would want him to make sure

1036
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 6: I got back to my hotel, room.

1037
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 2: Yes, he's that guy. He's like but he also I

1038
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: will say this about.

1039
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 4: Him, he's out there drunk.

1040
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 2: He's he's he's a little bit more. Uh, he's less

1041
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 2: of the bow tie in person than you might imagine.

1042
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: He'll he'll kill less.

1043
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 3: He's a little saucy.

1044
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: He's a little saucy your father in a good way.

1045
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 4: Does this mean in twenty twenty three we'll see you

1046
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 4: doing fight nights.

1047
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: I can't make any any declarative statements at the time,

1048
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: but I feel very I feel very optimistic about on that.

1049
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that'll be fun. Holy shit, Wow, that would

1050
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: be truly a monument you have you.

1051
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 3: I don't know, like, what does that mean to you?

1052
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 4: Like, it's a it's certainly an it's certainly an upgrade

1053
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 4: to what you've been doing, although you've been doing great things.

1054
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 4: What would that mean to you? Is that fulfillments? Like?

1055
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 3: What is that exactly?

1056
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: I think about that a lot. And it's a weird question.

1057
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: Did you ever watch that movie that the kids movie

1058
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: Soul Oh.

1059
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 4: The Pixar Yeah, yeah, yeah, Jamie.

1060
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: Fox, that movie made me weep and it actually made

1061
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: my he was probably six or six at the time.

1062
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: Even my son was crying like it's it's.

1063
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: It's a beautiful movie.

1064
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful movie.

1065
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: And it really made me think about like, I'm gonna

1066
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: get choked up here if I if I get to

1067
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: this thing that I think is the apex that I

1068
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: think is like everything I wanted to be am I

1069
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: am I really going to feel that way about it?

1070
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: You know? I mean, like or is it the mo

1071
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 1: It's like this the journey in getting there, that's really

1072
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: the thing that I love and that is the.

1073
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 6: Terms though it doesn't it depend on what your why

1074
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 6: actually is. Yeah, have you been able to look inward

1075
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 6: enough and realize, like, above all else, what is the

1076
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 6: reason you're willing to knock on doors? Have the belief

1077
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 6: that things that haven't been done in a while can

1078
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 6: be possible, or have never been done can be possible.

1079
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 6: Like what, at the end of the day is your

1080
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 6: why in this game?

1081
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: My why for what I'm trying to do started out

1082
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: very very much about myself and myself drive like I'm

1083
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: an incredibly driven a type perfect grades sou mu cum latti,

1084
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: Like I've always been ridiculously annoyingly like that. However, once

1085
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: I started doing it and started seeing how much it meant,

1086
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: like I just, I didn't I had no idea how

1087
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: much it would mean to not just women like I

1088
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: have so much many just the other day and I

1089
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: always cut him out and I have.

1090
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: Like a little folder in my phone that I stick

1091
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 2: him in.

1092
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: This dad texted me and he's like or messaged me

1093
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: on Instagram and he said, you know, I'm from Ireland,

1094
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: like you don't know me, but I just I love

1095
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: what you're doing and being able to do it in

1096
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: such a male dominated industry and do it with grace

1097
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: and have that sense of humor and like just be

1098
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: one of the guys like I just I would give

1099
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: anything for my.

1100
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: Daughter to grow up and be like you.

1101
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: And I'm like when people, when someone says something like

1102
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: that is it's mind blowing to me. So now and

1103
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: for a while now, for a long while now, my

1104
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: wow really is too. I'm not saying I'm gonna like

1105
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: shatter some sort of glass ceiling, but I want to

1106
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: fucking I want to crack it. I want to put

1107
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: a big old crack in it. If I can do that,

1108
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: so that someone with with a UFC title around their

1109
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 1: belt and with you know, the credentials whatever, can can

1110
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: smash it.

1111
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 3: I've actually never asked you your wire, what is it?

1112
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 6: Not only is that inspiring, but that's how my dog

1113
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 6: acts as soon as she gets outside, like the other

1114
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 6: someone else's mailbox, She's like, I want people to know

1115
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 6: I was here so I can relate to that. That's

1116
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 6: a great question, and I think your why has to

1117
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 6: be absolutely obviously there's other factors, like we all want

1118
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 6: to get paid, we all want to people to think

1119
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 6: we're cool.

1120
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 3: There's money.

1121
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 5: All that is great, and and look.

1122
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 6: At the end of the day, taking care of my

1123
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 6: family is the most important thing above all. But what's

1124
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 6: my real wife for working this hard is because in

1125
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 6: my twenties there were times in my life that I

1126
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 6: punted life and said, okay, I'm I understand now that

1127
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 6: i'm that I have underachieved, that I that I gave

1128
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 6: it away.

1129
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 5: It's my fault.

1130
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 6: But I know at the end of the day, no

1131
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 6: one needs to tell me. I know at the end

1132
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 6: of the day, I could have been a contender. I

1133
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 6: know I could have done something this. No never could

1134
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 6: have guess it's calling fights. Never could have guessed that.

1135
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 6: But even if it was just being a nationally known writer,

1136
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 6: I knew I had something to give. And my backstory

1137
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 6: is all crazy, like every one of our stories are,

1138
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 6: but you know, at some point, you know, the Good

1139
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 6: Lord decided that that that I could be pulled out

1140
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 6: of the muck and.

1141
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 5: That there was a second chance. And I am forever

1142
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 5: driven not to let that can't go that.

1143
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 6: From hell or high water, obviously, it helps when you're

1144
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 6: fighting to keep the light time with at times in

1145
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 6: our careers, that's what it's been, right, fighting to pay

1146
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 6: the rent, and that all is a great motivator. But

1147
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 6: I cannot let this thing end without giving everything I had,

1148
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 6: and even if it means getting as close to the

1149
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 6: flame and getting fired or or fucking up or just

1150
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 6: straight up proving that you can't do it at the

1151
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 6: end of the day when you think you can, I'm

1152
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 6: willing to stand.

1153
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 5: Out on that on that uh, on that ledge and.

1154
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 6: Do that because something was birthed and I think it's

1155
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 6: inside of all of us, which it takes a while

1156
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 6: to figure out and sometimes we don't get there. But

1157
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 6: I got there, and this thing's gonna fly. This like

1158
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 6: I'm you know, it's been a wild ride, but I'm

1159
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 6: Sully Sullenberger at the end of the day, I'm gonna

1160
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 6: I wanna land that fucking flame right in the hut

1161
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 6: set Like right, well, first you're gonna.

1162
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 4: Drive it into the geese absolutely, then you're gonna.

1163
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 3: Put it on.

1164
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 6: Yes, So you know, Luke, that's what it's about, Like

1165
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like like that's the thing.

1166
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 6: It's like, I'm not looking for a fight. I don't

1167
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 6: even have a fight in my in my if I

1168
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 6: had a life box wreck page, I don't even have

1169
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 6: life fights in that regard.

1170
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 5: But you know, I've been fighting my whole life.

1171
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 6: Look, okay, and a few corner me like a like

1172
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 6: a wounded animal, I will fucking kill you, all right,

1173
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 6: And that's that's actually not a message to motivate anybody

1174
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 6: that's a threat to you directly. Okay, you crossed me wondering, Okay,

1175
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 6: all right, that's the escad fucking it's the same thing. Yes, No, seriously,

1176
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 6: but can you identify with that a little bit?

1177
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 3: I can't.

1178
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, if I had to, you know, to the extent,

1179
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 4: I have the similar kind of feeling, Yeah, yeah, I

1180
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 4: would just say I didn't. I had a weird childhood,

1181
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 4: you know, I didn't have like the worst childhood, but

1182
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 4: it was not awesome. I never felt like I was

1183
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 4: good at anything. I just want to be good at something, truly.

1184
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 3: And I don't know.

1185
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 4: I've often found the things I like, I can be

1186
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 4: better at the things I don't like. It's hard for

1187
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 4: me to like swallow and do work that I'm uninterested in.

1188
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 4: But if I like it, I can tend to just

1189
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 4: put pedal to the metal and uh, you.

1190
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 6: Want to like I just want to do I want

1191
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 6: to feel like you lived for a reason.

1192
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want.

1193
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 4: I want to I want to produce things that people

1194
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 4: find value in truly.

1195
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 3: That's that's really about it.

1196
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to entertain people. That's all it is.

1197
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 5: This is this is a this is another angle.

1198
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 6: I could be doing community theater instead I'm doing this

1199
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 6: bullshit podcast. But I just want people to feel something,

1200
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 6: and that feeling.

1201
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 3: You've got a very community theater vibe.

1202
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 6: What that feeling may be that they don't respect me

1203
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 6: and they never will and I'm just that clown to them.

1204
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 6: But I don't know if I'm insecure enough or driven enough,

1205
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 6: but I need them to feel what I'm offering. Okay,

1206
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 6: now that may sound like I need a restraining order.

1207
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 6: But I'm not necessarily going that road. Is that road open,

1208
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 6: It's possible, but I'm not going down that way.

1209
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 4: Okay, glad you clarify, Thank you, thank you. I will

1210
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 4: say though, you know one part about that and no

1211
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 4: one gives a fuck about our troubles. But I just

1212
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 4: will say one part that is quite the downside the travel.

1213
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 2: I was just going to.

1214
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 3: The travel is being away from my daughter.

1215
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 6: I falking hate my dogs. I feel that I feel

1216
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 6: that when I'm not with them. You're a mother, but

1217
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 6: your kids, you feel that. I love my kids.

1218
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 5: Can Reggie Jackson my cat if Richie Jackson's the mayor.

1219
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 2: I wondered why you went with your dogs.

1220
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 5: Because I love all of my people.

1221
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 4: I guess dog is extremely sweet though it's an unusually

1222
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 4: sweet dog.

1223
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 5: Do you feel that same travel?

1224
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, the travel, The travels insane.

1225
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: In fact, truth be told, like I always wondered what

1226
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: my limit was, you know, because I Another thing that

1227
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: I would attribute to my success is I just you

1228
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: asked me to do it.

1229
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 2: I'll do it like opportunity presents itself.

1230
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: Yes, just say yes to everything, and then you find

1231
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: yourself like, wow, I really this summer during Contender series.

1232
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 2: I found my limit.

1233
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: I found my limit and it involved me in a

1234
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: puddle of tears on face time with my husband. I

1235
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: can't do this. I just want to come home. Why

1236
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: am I doing this?

1237
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:49,439
Speaker 2: What is this all for?

1238
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 6: Am I just following a selfish exactly?

1239
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 2: Am I doing this for me?

1240
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 6: Am I just telling myself I'm just feeding the family

1241
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 6: when the family would probably be just as happy if

1242
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 6: I was insurance was That's.

1243
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: The hardest part for me is I'm not feeding my

1244
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: family with this. My husband is the breadwinner. I mean,

1245
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: I make a great living now and I'm proud of that,

1246
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: and that means more to me than I thought it would,

1247
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: Like I hadn't been an earner in a while before

1248
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: I got married, But the reality is that if my

1249
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: job went away tomorrow, it wouldn't matter. So it automatically

1250
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: feels more selfish. Yeah, because it's not financially necessary for

1251
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: my family. So then I really have to sit back

1252
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: and say, why am I doing this? What is it about?

1253
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: Is it ego driven? Is it not ego driven? What

1254
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: will it mean to my son and to my family?

1255
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: And how can I make sure that I don't forsake

1256
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 1: one for the other while I go down and.

1257
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 4: By the way and getting that right, figuring out when

1258
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 4: you can do that. It's not so obvious. Sometimes, Oh

1259
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 4: it's not so wee y.

1260
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 6: It's a gray area, and you would try to make

1261
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 6: it white or black enough to feel good at the

1262
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 6: end of the day. But you know, I don't know

1263
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 6: if we ever can feel good. But I think you know,

1264
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 6: as long as you got your things balanced and you

1265
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 6: got your priorities right, what you seem to have, then

1266
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 6: you'll be okay.

1267
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 5: But what you're saying right there, I feel I definitely

1268
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 5: my son.

1269
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 2: My son makes all the difference.

1270
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: He's eight and he'll be nine in December, and I

1271
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: he always talks me off the ledge. He's such a

1272
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: he's such a smart kid for his age. He can

1273
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: be a little shit like all of them can, but

1274
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: he when he he's very emotionally in tuned, especially to me,

1275
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 1: I think, and he can tell especially during Contender series

1276
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 1: when it gets to be like that third fourth week.

1277
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 2: I always like this analogy, you know, I when you

1278
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: go in the ocean, the first wave comes, you're.

1279
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: Just like like waiting in the ocean. The first wave comes,

1280
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: You're like, WHOA, this is still fun. We're in the ocean.

1281
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 4: Wait, and the.

1282
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 2: Second wave comes, like, whoa, this is still fun. It's cool.

1283
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: And then that third one comes a little sooner than

1284
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: you thought it would.

1285
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 3: Now you're trying to get your brown and then.

1286
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, okay, and then that fourth one's there

1287
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 2: and you're.

1288
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 6: Like, this is like you're describing doing mushrooms.

1289
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 5: I can relate to that.

1290
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but it's definitely contender series. Like,

1291
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,959
Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks are fine, and then week

1292
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: five and then I'm doing my YouTube channel like it's

1293
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: too much. But point being, my son sat me down.

1294
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: He literally pulled me aside and he's like, come here.

1295
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: He pulled me into his room and he shut the

1296
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: door and he goes, I'm going to choke up, but

1297
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: he goes and he goes, Mom, He's like, you don't

1298
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: need to feel bad about being gone.

1299
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 2: I know what you're doing is super important.

1300
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 1: He goes, you're the first female commentator in the history

1301
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: of the UFC.

1302
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 2: I need to tell him about Kathy Long.

1303
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 6: Think Kathy Long would be like, you're fine, just let him.

1304
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: Had a great conversation with Kathy Long s It's amazing.

1305
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,479
Speaker 1: Oh I right after it happened, she and I talked

1306
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: on the phone. We'd never met before. I just hit

1307
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: her up. I was like, our names are getting mentioned

1308
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: a lot together.

1309
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 2: I want to know you.

1310
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: We talked on the phone for three hours. It could

1311
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: have been seven, three hours straight.

1312
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: I love that.

1313
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 5: Could you illuminate us? What does she feel like?

1314
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 6: Shell over to this weird business? Because she was a

1315
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 6: fight She was a fighter before that, right, it is,

1316
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 6: it is she is.

1317
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: I like to think of her as like the female

1318
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 1: Chuck Norris of.

1319
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 2: The eighties and nineties.

1320
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: She was doing stuntwork and movies. She was a multiple

1321
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: time champion kickboxer. I mean, she was a bad ass

1322
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: way before women were bad asses in combat sports like

1323
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: she she is a real pioneer, like that woman deserves

1324
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: that title. And I kind of sheepishly called her up

1325
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: because honestly, there was a part of me that felt

1326
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: bad that some of the headlines kept reading first, and

1327
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: I wanted to be like, listen, I know that you're

1328
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: the first, and I am not taking away from that.

1329
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 2: And she was really sweet.

1330
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: She's like, listen, they only had me on one show

1331
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: and I barely talked, you know, She's like and then

1332
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: she just ran me through.

1333
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 5: Bill Wallace wouldn't stop burping. That's why Bill, and.

1334
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 4: Then what was the jim My brain doesn't work anymore Brown.

1335
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: She has sworn me to secrecy on many a story

1336
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: surrounding that one show, which I want to say declaratively

1337
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: was not under.

1338
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 2: The ZUFA banner.

1339
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: It sounded like quite the experience and one of.

1340
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 6: People are pipes after show. We can tell the yes.

1341
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1342
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: The one thing that I will say that never really

1343
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 1: crossed my mind. She and she was like, Laura, you

1344
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: have to understand, this was so far before the Internet.

1345
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: The sport did not exist. So ask me as a

1346
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: striker when I'd ever even been exposed to jiu jitsu.

1347
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god, you probably, She goes, No,

1348
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 2: I had no idea what I was looking at. None.

1349
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: Of course, I'm a striker, of course I can call shots,

1350
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 2: but like it was this weird, freakish thing.

1351
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: And like I'm expected to say intelligent things about it,

1352
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 1: And she's like, I didn't know. I had no idea

1353
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: what they were doing on the ground because no one

1354
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: knew what jiu jitsu was. And I thought, oh my god,

1355
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: that must have been absolutely terrifying to be this well

1356
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: respected martial artist just be thrown in this situation like

1357
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: here talk about this and you're like, no one's.

1358
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 4: Ever seen it before. I talk about nineties were fucking wild.

1359
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 2: I was supposed to talk about it.

1360
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 4: There's nothing. You know, when when my kid was born,

1361
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 4: I went on because you know, you'd be up a

1362
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 4: three am just doing whatever the fuck, and I would

1363
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 4: started watching movies. I was like, I'm gonna watch early

1364
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 4: nineties movies. They're violent as shit. Blood right, there was

1365
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 4: something happening in the early nineties. Don't you feel like that.

1366
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 5: I I mean, you're you're not that much younger than us.

1367
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 2: So your Christian parents let you watch blood sport?

1368
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, my my Catholic parents let me. But yeah yeah,

1369
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 6: so uh did you? I mean you grew you were

1370
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 6: what middle school in the nineties at least? Right?

1371
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? But I had an older brother and I was

1372
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 2: like his shadow.

1373
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: So really I lived the life four years older than

1374
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: I that I am.

1375
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:34,959
Speaker 3: A graduate high school.

1376
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: I graduated two thousand and one, okay, but I like

1377
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 2: I lived the music.

1378
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 4: I lived the Okay.

1379
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: I gotta fashion whatever from four years ahead of me.

1380
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 6: For your life and your feelings. What is the most

1381
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 6: nineties song for me? Semi charm Life by Third Eye

1382
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 6: Blind the most.

1383
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 2: I hate that song so much, I.

1384
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 4: Know, but it is so I'm gonna go here already.

1385
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 3: I'm going to go Sublime. What I got?

1386
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 4: I got?

1387
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, A lot of Morisse said it's like Ray Yeah.

1388
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 4: Jack Mills sold a lot of records.

1389
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: Blaine Blind, Melon.

1390
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,439
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, Rain, Oh yeah? What's his face?

1391
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 5: He died though, Channon? Who you know?

1392
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 6: I got a lot of swords, you know what I'm

1393
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 6: saying there? A lot of them were dull though, But

1394
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 6: a couple of times that.

1395
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 4: Would you go to concerts in the nineties, No, I

1396
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 4: was too young.

1397
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 2: I was too young and I'd protective parents. I did

1398
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 2: go to Like, I went to a concert that.

1399
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: Was like a festival before festivals were a thing. So

1400
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: bon Jovi was there and I was front row, and

1401
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: I thought that was really cool because he like winked

1402
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: at me.

1403
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: And I was like seventeen.

1404
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: But no, no, not a big I went to Dove Matthews,

1405
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: I take that battle.

1406
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 3: I went to do How was that a lot of

1407
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 3: white people there?

1408
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 4: Right?

1409
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: It was a lot of white people, And I was

1410
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: not enough of a Dave Matthews like died in the

1411
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: Wolf Fan where I was like, yes, bring on this

1412
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: eleven minute you know, jembraneous jazz solo, fantastic violence. Yeah.

1413
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 4: My brother went to Uva when Dave Matthew's band blew up.

1414
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 4: He was always like, oh I see them out in town,

1415
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 4: and Charles Vall I'm like.

1416
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 3: I don't care.

1417
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really don't care.

1418
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 6: Okay, Well back then though, they were.

1419
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 4: If I'm honest, Hey, well we still have some time left.

1420
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 3: Let's talk some headlines.

1421
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 4: All right, all right, John Jones, do you think he's

1422
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 4: gonna come back at all? I?

1423
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 3: Do you do?

1424
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 4: Okay, now, with that caveat in mind, does he actually

1425
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 4: win the UFC heavyweight title whoever that's against and whatever order?

1426
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 4: But by the end of whenever he comes back.

1427
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 6: Does he looks like if you're a magic eight ball,

1428
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 6: what would you be saying?

1429
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 3: Yes, you think so?

1430
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 2: I do?

1431
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 4: Tell me what I do.

1432
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: I think that his skill set was extraordinary at light heavyweight,

1433
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: and I think that it's it's been such a long process.

1434
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 2: I would have been more worried about him rushing to heavyweight.

1435
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: I feel like he's been sitting in this heavyweight body

1436
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: for a while now, and the dynamism of his striking

1437
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: at light heavyweight. Bring that into a heavyweight setting, and

1438
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: I feel like it's going to be really different guilt

1439
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: for people to give. I love thinking about him facing

1440
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: a serial gone, but then you're like, well, John.

1441
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 2: Jones can rustle.

1442
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 4: I mean, what do you make of the okay, what

1443
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 4: is your best explanation for the relative decline.

1444
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 3: Of his performance at light havea away towards the end there.

1445
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: I think for him it has always been about stuff

1446
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: that's outside of the octagon.

1447
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 2: I really do.

1448
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: I think that to some degree, you're naturally going to

1449
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: have competitors that start to learn how to fight you better.

1450
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: Right over time, people are going to get smarter about

1451
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: how they approach a John Jones fight. So I think

1452
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: we saw Dominic Reyes at the peak really understanding how

1453
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: to not you know, get fast, get past that force

1454
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: field that he puts up and all as well.

1455
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Tiago Santo's another.

1456
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: I think part of it is is people figuring John

1457
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: out a little bit, but I really attribute most of

1458
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: it to just him not being fully dialed in.

1459
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 4: I will say, if he can take that much time

1460
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 4: off from the sport and while the game has moved

1461
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 4: on and evolved will be extraordinary. And to just jump

1462
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 4: right back in and claim a title. It's not just

1463
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 4: that he did in a different weight class. All the

1464
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 4: time he's missed and to be still ahead of the game.

1465
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 4: It's not that I'm skeptical of his abilities, but just

1466
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 4: that alone is difficult for any human mortal to do.

1467
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 2: Do you in your mind I'm taking an interview around me.

1468
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask the questions now in your minds.

1469
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: If he comes back at heavyweight and we feel confident

1470
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: that he is clean and this it feels like a

1471
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: fresh start in some ways clean.

1472
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 3: I in my confidence, but I don't care.

1473
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, at least one of our hosts

1474
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 5: might be on delta. It's just the way the world.

1475
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: I guess my question is, and I have because I

1476
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: have this argument slash discussion of DC.

1477
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's a hard one to have with him in particular,

1478
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 2: and I.

1479
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 4: Can't understand, why.

1480
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: Do you allow him to have to remove the asterisk

1481
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: from his goat status if he does it at heavyweight?

1482
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 4: To me, he doesn't have an asterisk. I don't buy.

1483
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 5: To me, even with the peak O grams, he's the goat.

1484
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 6: If he wins the heavyweight championship in any form short

1485
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 6: of a you know, robbery or something, He's he's not

1486
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 6: only going to already be the goat, it's with a bullet.

1487
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 6: It's where Unfortunately for guys like Kabib gsp and understand,

1488
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,439
Speaker 6: I mean the greatest of the greats, they will now

1489
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 6: look up at the at the finest of the farm

1490
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 6: animalst that giant ass goat. You know, honey booboo wild

1491
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 6: thing was onto something when she was calling.

1492
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 3: Him, certainly might have been.

1493
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 4: But yes, I mean if he comes back and don't

1494
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 4: you remember that was on his phone? No, when he

1495
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 4: got pulled so he got pulled over and like if

1496
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 4: you look at it was who was on his phone?

1497
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 3: That was how it was listed in the phone.

1498
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I've got a better question. I pull, I

1499
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 5: got deep pulls all right.

1500
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 6: You remember, of course, what was in October of twenty

1501
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 6: eighteen when Habib and Connor said a new UFC pay

1502
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 6: per view record, I believe at two point four million buys,

1503
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 6: besting the one point six five ish that Connor and

1504
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 6: Nate had done in their rematch. The next great pay

1505
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 6: per view fight that could beat Connor versus Habib are

1506
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 6: the two fighters in question, even in the UFC and

1507
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 6: active at the moment.

1508
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 5: What's the next.

1509
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:20,479
Speaker 6: Great crossover slam dunk pay per view that's gonna rock

1510
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 6: the records?

1511
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 5: Do we even have those fighters right now?

1512
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 2: It is it's John and Francis.

1513
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 3: To me, I mean I can do over two mil.

1514
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 5: We have argued together heavyweights exactly.

1515
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 3: I mean, don't get me wrong. I think it would

1516
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 3: sell Gangbusters, Rader.

1517
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 6: You put it in the Raiders football stadium, Yeah, go

1518
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:38,439
Speaker 6: about eighty grand.

1519
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 5: I think the.

1520
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: Not having John for a long time creates this like

1521
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: build up of anticipation if it was any John, if

1522
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: it was the second John Jones fight after he was returned, No,

1523
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: but the one where he was returned, where he returns,

1524
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: And if it's with an opponent like Francis, I don't

1525
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: think it does that with Steepe, But if it's Francis,

1526
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: I think I think.

1527
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 3: It it's a huge fight. I mean there's no denying that.

1528
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 4: All right, How long do you think Markachev holds the belt?

1529
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 4: In other words, who is his toughest contender?

1530
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 5: These are these are god questions?

1531
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, Well, we have a UFC commentator here

1532
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 4: a challenge who smashing through glass ceilings.

1533
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:18,439
Speaker 5: He's trying to climb out of this couch.

1534
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: She these questions right exactly based on what I saw

1535
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: in Abu Dhabi.

1536
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 2: I think he's going to have that title for a while.

1537
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 4: He might write, he might have that motherfucker for a

1538
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 4: while a while.

1539
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 3: I couldn't, you know.

1540
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 4: It's funny. I was telling him there was this, uh,

1541
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 4: there's this YouTube channel. I was taking people's predictions pre fight,

1542
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 4: and we both picked Makachev. But like, even as we

1543
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 4: were saying things like, you know, Charles has much better

1544
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 4: striking ahead of time, which again ahead of the fight,

1545
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 4: that was all the evidence indicated that, and then he

1546
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 4: goes in there and then just pulls all the pins

1547
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 4: out of the grenade.

1548
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:51,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just could.

1549
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 1: I was like, what when he look when he lit

1550
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 1: Charles up in the first couple of seconds, I was.

1551
01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 4: Like, oh shit, because you know what ha amend is

1552
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 4: who I love. He'll say things like, dude, Makachiev is

1553
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 4: the most complete fighter ever.

1554
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 5: You're like handled to me and you're like.

1555
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 4: And you're like, ha have I love you? But that's

1556
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 4: crazy and then he goes and does that shit. You

1557
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 4: like that fucking guy hove here might be done on

1558
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 4: the truth.

1559
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: So that's when I start to really start get on

1560
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: these hype trains with people.

1561
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 2: When you get the gym lore, it's like the bon

1562
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 2: Nickel thing.

1563
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: I know, we have virtually no footage on bon Nickel,

1564
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: but it's the stories that people from his camp tell

1565
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: you behind closed doors, off camera, in sheer honesty.

1566
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 6: Like in his own way, he's a one of one

1567
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 6: like brock lesnar Like in his own way, he's something

1568
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,439
Speaker 6: just potentially extra special that we haven't seen. Yeah, could

1569
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 6: that possibly happen? Could bon Nickel be that new hope?

1570
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 6: Episode four, Luke I met? She could tell a salute bitch,

1571
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 6: young Luke Scott Walker and so was his father?

1572
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 4: And did have you noticed how Star Wars made the

1573
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 4: most important figures whiny bitches Anakin Skywalker, Oh a complete

1574
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 4: host Yeah, complete Luke Skywalker.

1575
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 3: Won't stop crying.

1576
01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 5: But when Luke put on the Black episode six, though

1577
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 5: he was a bad.

1578
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 4: Now when he turns into Darth Vader, the whole the

1579
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,959
Speaker 4: game changes, right, he becomes like the real one.

1580
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 3: But dude, do you.

1581
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 1: Notice the book Anakin.

1582
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 3: And Luke are two absolute.

1583
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 5: Worse Like I feel like I'm more man than Luke Skyre.

1584
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 3: You are, You're more man than have to do.

1585
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 1: You think they did that intentionally to make it less intimidating, like, oh,

1586
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: the average man can identify with this bitch.

1587
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, but isn't Anakin supposed to be all fucking special

1588
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 4: on his midic Chlorian levels?

1589
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 5: And shit, he's got so many many chloris.

1590
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 6: He is smarter than absolute bitch whide all that flying bugs.

1591
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 2: I'm out of my depth right now on this where.

1592
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 4: We uh, this will come out after the fight, so

1593
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 4: there's no way to get it up before then. But

1594
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 4: for two eighty one, yeah, your thoughts on the main event,

1595
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 4: who's gonna win?

1596
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 5: I mean, this is not timely content.

1597
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 4: It's not I just want to hear it for the record, Okay,

1598
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 4: I can ask I.

1599
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: This is a fascinating fight to me for so many reasons,

1600
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 1: and I I mean, I could geek out about this

1601
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 1: fight forever. When you watch their kickboxing competitions, you have

1602
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: to keep in mind a couple of things first of all,

1603
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 1: and I had not really put two and two together

1604
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: about this, And this is not someone's gonna turn this

1605
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 1: into a headline like Laura Sanko thinks that's not an

1606
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: indication of my prediction. It's an interesting thing to take

1607
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 1: into consideration. When Alex Purea fought Israel autasnja is he

1608
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: had in Glory kickboxing is he had close to one

1609
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 1: hundred kickboxing fights.

1610
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 2: Alex had around twenty.

1611
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: So when you take into consideration that a relatively green

1612
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: Alex Pureta put on some really good performances. Although I

1613
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: do actually think he lost the first one, but regardless,

1614
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: very close, very competitive when you think, man his camp

1615
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: told me because his coach, not Glover of course, but

1616
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: Plinial Cruz was my coach when I lived here in

1617
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: New York City.

1618
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 2: Way, so I called him up and I was like, bro.

1619
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 1: Like give me, give me the scoop here, and he said, Laura,

1620
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 1: people don't understand how green Alex was when they first fought. Now,

1621
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: obviously he's very green in MMA, and we can all

1622
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 1: agree that this is a different sport, different and to me,

1623
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: range range is the key in this one. Is he

1624
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: has got to keep this where he's comfortable in the range.

1625
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: But I think Alex is going to pressure him in

1626
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: a way that not many people have had the psychology.

1627
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 6: To do or have been ballsy enough, but can sell

1628
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 6: it like where I mean, if you cross the line

1629
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 6: against Izzy, normally he's going to count you and make

1630
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 6: you pay.

1631
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 5: And that's why people don't tend to do that.

1632
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 6: Alex does seem to have this villain at the end

1633
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 6: of the video game type of feel to him that

1634
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 6: he's like, he's a motherfucker.

1635
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 5: Yes, right, I mean you.

1636
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 6: See that style in swag he's putting out, you know,

1637
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 6: poet on Poeton, right, Luke, I think that means a stonehands.

1638
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 3: I mean stonehands, all right? One thirty five.

1639
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's assume al Joe's out till June, and I'm

1640
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 4: going to make something up here. UFC wants to create

1641
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 4: an interim title. They might not, they might not, but

1642
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 4: if they did, who should fight for it?

1643
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 2: Oh God, that's so difficult.

1644
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the name of the game forgiving.

1645
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 4: I don't hate.

1646
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 2: I don't hate. Oh I'm gonna get absolutely crucified if

1647
01:08:58,360 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 2: you know.

1648
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 4: That means number one contender. So I think it's Sean.

1649
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 4: You can say who he I think it's a monster fight,

1650
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 4: monster fight. He wouldn't go to Hudo.

1651
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 2: Though, I'm right, is he really? I love Henry?

1652
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 1: I actually off camera, I respect him, yet I love Henry.

1653
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: He is so different than his personality off camera. He's

1654
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 1: the greatest. But I guess i'm i'm is he coming

1655
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 1: back for sure?

1656
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 2: For sure?

1657
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 4: Like it seems like he I think he probably would

1658
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 4: for the right fights.

1659
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to see him versus Sean necessarily?

1660
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 3: Why not?

1661
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 5: Why don't you like you didn't fight?

1662
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 3: Okay, so let's back up a step.

1663
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 4: You didn't find what Sean did against Poduriano that convincing.

1664
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: Oh no, I was one of the few people who

1665
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 1: thought he won the fight. I had no problem with

1666
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 1: him winning that fight, largely because I have a deep

1667
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: understanding of judging now but obviously.

1668
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 2: Very close fight. I just I get I guess I get.

1669
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: More excited per by Sean malle Cheeto, And that's probably

1670
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: my bias toward like, I just I want Suhudo to

1671
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: like actually be back before we start putting him in

1672
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: title pictures.

1673
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 2: But I would You're right, you make a great point.

1674
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 2: I would love that fight.

1675
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 4: Okay, So then let me see here at at five.

1676
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 4: If I is he wins, he almost certainly goes to

1677
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 4: light heavyweight. He doesn't even know, he doesn't even know

1678
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 4: who else would be there. But if he loses, it

1679
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 4: creates an interesting kind of conversation. Do you do the

1680
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 4: rematch if is he loses because is he has been

1681
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 4: this undefeated champion or do you go to someone else?

1682
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 4: Because if Robert Whittaker ends up beating paul A Costa, dude,

1683
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 4: Robert Whittaker is a bad match up for the time

1684
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 4: full of time. Yes, like it's funny that, like is

1685
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 4: he has two wins over a Robert, But if it

1686
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 4: was Robert versus Alex, I would feel a lot more

1687
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 4: comfortable just picking Robert.

1688
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 3: So what's use he going to do if that happens?

1689
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 3: If is he loses? What do you do?

1690
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 2: Yes, I think you have to do a rematch. I

1691
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 2: think that that's what they would do.

1692
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 7: So you said no, No, I think you slid Robert

1693
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 7: wag because then if he beats Potata, the Robert Whitaker

1694
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 7: out a sign your trilogy suddenly has huge marketability and

1695
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 7: need when right now I don't think you do need it.

1696
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 5: That would make you need it?

1697
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 6: And then in Out of Sonia Poeton rematch is always

1698
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 6: going to be their title or no title.

1699
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 5: You don't need a title.

1700
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 6: But you know, I'm I'm just a scumbag you know,

1701
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, a scumbag of a may

1702
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 6: media member, which you know brings me to probably the

1703
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 6: hardest question I could produce right now that I don't

1704
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 6: know if you're going to answer it, go go all right,

1705
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 6: Luke said, I wouldn't ask her this. It's a dick move.

1706
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 6: Dana White calls you up and says, look, you know

1707
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 6: you've been doing great work.

1708
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,879
Speaker 2: Okay, but I'm watching should you do better data impression?

1709
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 3: You know?

1710
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 5: Yeah? This kid? You know, well, yeah, I know you

1711
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 5: know what's up? Guys, No, you know.

1712
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 6: He's like, I'm launching this Slap Dick League and it's

1713
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 6: the biggest thing ever. It's going to take over the world,

1714
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 6: and I need you to be the face of it.

1715
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 2: Slap Dick.

1716
01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:58,719
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, happens.

1717
01:11:59,080 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 5: What's it called? Guys?

1718
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 2: Know the title slap fight?

1719
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 4: I think no, it's Dana Whites because I mean, it's

1720
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 4: just the worst name. Dana White's power Slap.

1721
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 6: He's like, I need you to be the face of

1722
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 6: power slap like I need like you cannot be seen

1723
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 6: in public without a power Slap T shirt or sweatshirt on.

1724
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 5: You will be power slap.

1725
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 6: Your life is power slap you tell him like, hey,

1726
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 6: that's really nice of you at all, but that ship's

1727
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 6: going to fail and I'm going after real fight calling okay, movie, I.

1728
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 1: Probably wouldn't call him a failure in the conversation or

1729
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: or or okay, say.

1730
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 5: To invest your money either. It just is, you know,

1731
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 5: I would.

1732
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 1: Just say, I would just say, Danny, you know, thank

1733
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 1: you so much for the opportunity.

1734
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 2: But I think probably someone else would be better suit.

1735
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 6: That was That was not an easy question. That was

1736
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 6: an honest rebuttal respect that it's not my thing, but

1737
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:51,480
Speaker 6: it's not anybody's.

1738
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:52,759
Speaker 5: But that's fine, okay.

1739
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: And also not like I'm not mad at I don't know,

1740
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not as mad.

1741
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 2: At it as some people are. But it's not my thing.

1742
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 3: I don't Uh yeah, I hate it.

1743
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:04,440
Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, I think it's indefensible.

1744
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, what are you gonna do? All right?

1745
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 4: A couple more headlines, Hey, what should Kayla Harrison do?

1746
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:10,480
Speaker 2: Oh man?

1747
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 4: It's not a UFC topic, but it is always kind

1748
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 4: of UFC related with her a little bit.

1749
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 3: What the fuck she's supposed to do?

1750
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 2: I wish she would come here.

1751
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 6: Yes, I mean, we've got to look there's an answer

1752
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 6: that you us happened. First, they need to create the

1753
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 6: UFC women's heavyweight division, which is one thirty five to

1754
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Speaker 6: one fifty five.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's his idea. I think it's actually not a

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Speaker 3: bad idea.

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Speaker 6: And then Kayla comes in because she doesn't have to

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Speaker 6: worry about cutting down. And anybody who is you know,

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01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 6: knows that they're a flyway or strawweight is not going

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Speaker 6: to go up to thirty five. But everybody one thirty

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Speaker 6: five is. There's no division anyway, so you just make

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Speaker 6: it one big thing.

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Speaker 1: I've brought that up before, not as specifically as you

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Speaker 1: stated it, but the whole idea that there is no

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Speaker 1: catch all for these athletes, yes that can't make one

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Speaker 1: thirty five because let's be real, one.

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Speaker 2: Forty five is not a thriving division.

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Speaker 1: So really, if you can't make one thirty five, which

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but like there are a lot of athletic

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Speaker 1: women who can't make one thirty five, that is not

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Speaker 1: a that's not.

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Speaker 5: A body shaming here, that's reality.

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Speaker 2: That is reality.

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Speaker 4: And you already have a small pool to pull from

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Speaker 4: to make competitive fights anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so to have a catch all where you could

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Speaker 1: pull in some because I remember and Victor had a

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Speaker 1: handful of fifty five or fights.

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Speaker 6: It's great stuff, okay, but with my romantic scenario, and

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Speaker 6: by the way, people say, no way, Cyborg whatever, step

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Speaker 6: from the UFC octage again, I bet you they would

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01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 6: for a women's heavyweight championship. That's me talking, not her.

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Speaker 6: But here's the deal. How is that too much of

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01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 6: an advantage for somebody like Kayla who's basically a fifty five,

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Speaker 6: who said, in the right circumstance, she can make forty

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Speaker 6: five If she's going in there against people that have,

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Speaker 6: you know, been bantam weights for most of their life.

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Speaker 5: Is that too much or is this just what heavyweight is?

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Speaker 5: I mean, look at heavyweight in boxing or MMA.

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Speaker 6: If you're a small heavyweight and you're facing a super heavyweight,

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Speaker 6: it's going to feel like.

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Speaker 5: Two to three divisions apart. At times. It's going to

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Speaker 5: be massive.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the game you play in a catch

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01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: all division, and they would know that going in, and

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Speaker 1: you know, to your point, we see that sometimes in

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Speaker 1: the men's heavyweight division, where people look massively different than

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Speaker 1: their opponents doing. Sometimes we're surprised by it, you know,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes we're not.

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Speaker 3: That is very true.

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Speaker 6: Okay, you might be surprised what are you doing doing job?

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01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 5: How many special jobs branded? I promote all the great

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Speaker 5: show time shows.

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Speaker 6: You might be surprised Red Shoe Diaries, like you know,

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01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 6: I did like Morning Combat Strikeforce Classics. That was another

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01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 6: good show we did during the pandemic.

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Speaker 5: You've got some TV money for that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we have to get out of here.

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Speaker 6: So I'm sorry that you had to endure this, but

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Speaker 6: I think, you know, I think it was wholesome.

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01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:36,679
Speaker 5: It was very wholesome.

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Speaker 2: No, I appreciate you guys having me.

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Speaker 3: Can you plug? What would you like to plug?

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01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,799
Speaker 1: Well, I definitely want to plug first and foremost Alta

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01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: because that I'm super passionate.

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Speaker 4: I used to be called warriors. Yes, Alta is a

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01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 4: better name.

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Speaker 2: Way better.

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Speaker 6: He didn't e Casey light in the Great Yes, journalists

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Speaker 6: do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes to.

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Speaker 1: Me, like I I love being involved with them because

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01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 1: to me, it's like it's very similar to my journey

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01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 1: into MMA. I did it for you know, psychological mental

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01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: health reasons, the training, and then I sort of just

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01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 1: got sucked into fighting. But training MMA can be life

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01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 1: changing in on so many levels. And to have them

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Speaker 1: take it where the everyday guy, the accountant whoever can

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01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 1: experience a little bit of what it's like and get

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Speaker 1: that benefit of the sport.

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Speaker 2: I love, love, love it. I love it.

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Speaker 3: What about your YouTube stuff, the one on one.

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Speaker 2: One on one baby?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, who produces that bet.

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Speaker 2: Three sixty five? So it's a it's a sponsored channel.

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Speaker 2: I have a Yeah, I have a deal with them.

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Speaker 3: And I couldn't tell if that was a UFC property

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Speaker 3: or not.

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01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 2: They are, so I did. I got the connection through

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01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 2: the UFC, So they are.

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Speaker 1: They're the biggest betting partner of the UFC outside of

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Speaker 1: the United States.

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Speaker 4: In fact, they are big in Europe.

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01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 2: Right outside of the United States. They are I mean

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Speaker 2: by far, they dwarf every other.

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Speaker 5: They're like Hasselhoff in Germany.

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01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 6: They are like pre or post Burgers.

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01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 2: I think I have like seventy millions scare.

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Speaker 1: It's a huge I had no idea, I had no

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01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 1: concept because they're not they don't have a presence here.

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01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, it came through the UFC. So that's why

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01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 1: it has like a UFC feel to it. And but

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01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 1: thank goodness, because I can't handle the editing and the

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01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 1: you'd get nothing from that.

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Speaker 6: I got one more question that Luke said, don't ask her,

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Speaker 6: do not ask her if any respect for yourself.

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Speaker 4: But it's this is almost certain way.

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Speaker 5: It's been a long debate between us.

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Speaker 6: Look, some people have gone on record and make declarations

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01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 6: and it just becomes fact.

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01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 5: Yantam J.

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Speaker 6: Check once said bred Okamoto is the best fucker we

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Speaker 6: doing a journalist in the game today. I really like Brett,

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01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 6: but should we update that?

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Speaker 1: This is so fucking awkward?

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Speaker 5: That was the point. I'm sorry.

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01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 4: He just rolls, you know, the room. Why do you

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01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 4: assholes jump on it? Try?

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01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 5: You know, I try to.

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01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 6: Get my best pitch over the play, but sometimes you know,

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01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 6: it's not a message, right Sometimes miss.

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01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 1: Let's just sit here and and and compare all our peers,

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01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 1: shall we.

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01:17:58,120 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 2: That won't get weird.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure Jan has other shirts besides

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01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 5: the blue one. I'm sure he does.

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Speaker 3: Well. I'm partners with him now, so my career is

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01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 3: going great, you know.

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Speaker 4: Glad you hear, Brian, thank you, thank you for this.

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01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 2: I love Brett, I love you and I love you.

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01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really glad.

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01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:13,639
Speaker 5: It's handsome ship.

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01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 3: Yea, certainly you know what I mean. Why don't you

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01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 3: go bang him?

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01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 4: How about that scratch that?

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01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,839
Speaker 6: Can I just be platonic friends with another male journalist?

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01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 4: I mean, cratch that lily right guy?

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01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 5: You know I would love to get him on this

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01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 5: show one day.

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01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you could bang them right here because all right,

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01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 4: all right, all right that day On that.

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01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 3: Note, so there's one on one on YouTube. You'll be

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01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 3: back on Contender series.

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01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,600
Speaker 4: I will. What does the next season start? I never know.

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01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:38,719
Speaker 2: Usual summer, next summer, summer.

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01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 4: There you go, and then maybe just maybe twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 4: Lauras Anko UFC Fight Night commentator, Right, come on.

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Speaker 6: Brian, just maybe she's you know what, we're not going

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01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 6: to you know, when you're when you're coming on, you're

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01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 6: coming on.

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01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 5: She's going for it.

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01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 6: She's making moves and I and I I don't have

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01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 6: to wish you luck because you know from talking to you,

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01:18:58,560 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 6: I know what you're made of and you're going after

1906
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,719
Speaker 6: and I can appreciate your your effort and your hustle

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01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 6: and this so great things to come.

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01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 4: I appreciate that they can't stop the hard work.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 3: Congratulations.

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Speaker 2: He'll be on the desk next weekend, so look for that.

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Speaker 3: Only up from there there she has loris aankle. Everyone,

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Speaker 3: UFC pioneer take that.

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Speaker 5: Brett, Oh my god,