Speaker 1: You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 1: Danet's Dan Patrick's Show, Philip Rivers announced his retirement, so
Speaker 1: we have an opening in Indianapolis, maybe New Orleans as well.
Speaker 1: I saw where Drew Brees's wife tweeted out the injuries
Speaker 1: that he had. In her latest Instagram post, Drew Brees's wife,
Speaker 1: Brittany said that Drew played with all of these injuries
Speaker 1: this season, torn rotator tuff cuff, torn fascia in his foot,
Speaker 1: plus eleven broken ribs, a collapse lung, which we already
Speaker 1: knew about. I don't know why she would do that,
Speaker 1: unless she maybe saying if he does step down, this
Speaker 1: is why he's stepping down. Maybe reminding Drew of all
Speaker 1: the things that he went through as well. But I
Speaker 1: don't know if the criticism. You know, we never know
Speaker 1: about the wife because they see everything, they read everything,
Speaker 1: and then they decide if they want to tell their husband,
Speaker 1: you know, the negative that they hear or see and read.
Speaker 1: But she put that out there, and look, Drew Brees
Speaker 1: needs no excuses to retire if that's what he chooses
Speaker 1: to do. If he decides to come back. You know,
Speaker 1: can a just coming back from a torn rotator? That's
Speaker 1: huge and it's an inexact science having you know, had
Speaker 1: rotator surgery and I wasn't coming back to anything, just
Speaker 1: day to day life, and then you're gonna say, hey,
Speaker 1: now can you throw a football? And it feels like,
Speaker 1: you know, Withdrew, with all these injuries, maybe even more
Speaker 1: vulnerable and at that age. So I'm not going to
Speaker 1: be surprised if he retires. Part of me hopes he
Speaker 1: retires because it's time to move on, but if he
Speaker 1: wants to play, great. I just feel like we've seen
Speaker 1: the best of Drew Brees. And I always talk about
Speaker 1: this that it's it's selfish when I have this approach.
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers could play again, and he had a really
Speaker 1: good year. He had a far better year than I
Speaker 1: think most of us, certainly I thought, And he's on
Speaker 1: a good team and he was healthy. You know, they
Speaker 1: went up to Buffalo and went toe to toe, and
Speaker 1: I thought they were the better team there. I thought
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers would come back. I don't think that Drew
Speaker 1: Brees will come back. But Philip Rivers has decided to
Speaker 1: retire and was gonna I think all Along wanted to
Speaker 1: coach high school football because I asked him about being
Speaker 1: a broadcaster, and it felt like he had made up
Speaker 1: his mind, maybe a commitment to his hometown, that he
Speaker 1: would go back there and be the head coach of
Speaker 1: the local football tick. And I understand that he's got
Speaker 1: nine kids. You know you're gonna be on the road,
Speaker 1: and you're not on the road for just one day.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be on the road for you know, three
Speaker 1: or four days when you do an NFL game. And
Speaker 1: he probably thought, you know what, it's time for me
Speaker 1: not to be selfish, for me to be unselfish and
Speaker 1: be around, be a coach, give back, and those are
Speaker 1: wonderful traits for Philip Rivers. So I wish him the
Speaker 1: best and hopefully we'll have a chance to have him
Speaker 1: on here. Sue. Yeahpoly, the Colts and Saints, they have
Speaker 1: some saucy quarterback situations because none of them really have
Speaker 1: a guy they want to go with. And they're pretty
Speaker 1: high end teams, especially the Saints. But these are teams
Speaker 1: that are contenders, not in the market for twenty one
Speaker 1: year old quarterback. Well, the cupboards bear in Indianapolis, you
Speaker 1: have Taysom Hill and Jamis Winston, at least in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: I don't know which is a better situation too, if
Speaker 1: he quarterbacks or no nobody. I would rather have Jameis
Speaker 1: Winston than Taysom Hill's my quarterback. I just I think
Speaker 1: he has the qualities capabilities of being a starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: It still comes down to can he outthink the opposition.
Speaker 1: Can Jamis Winston rely on thinking his way through a game,
Speaker 1: avoid mistakes because he's not bred Farve and you can't
Speaker 1: be one of those. Hey, I'm just gonna wing it,
Speaker 1: or I can throw it wherever I want to throw it.
Speaker 1: Can't I don't care who you are. But if Jameis
Speaker 1: Winston's able to do that and use this as sort
Speaker 1: of a master class in quarterbacking, and he listened to
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, and he listened to Drew Brees, and maybe
Speaker 1: you come out of this and you could still be
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback. Yeah, mclub. Jamis is a free agent, though.
Speaker 1: Don't you think he'll get some attention? There's a report
Speaker 1: lock him forward reported that Peyton wants him back badly
Speaker 1: and he wants to platoon him and Hill or something
Speaker 1: like that. L's numbers are pretty good in this starts.
Speaker 1: I mean, is it possible he wasn't bad. I mean,
Speaker 1: we have to face he had like one hundred and
Speaker 1: two rating. He threw for some yards. No, I mean
Speaker 1: not bad. I'm not saying I don't know how he
Speaker 1: even did that. To be honest, I guess that would
Speaker 1: had a tape on him. Can you win a Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Would say some hill. That'd be my question because it's
Speaker 1: a long pause back there. By the way, No, I
Speaker 1: mean it seems tough, but by the way, I thought
Speaker 1: Drew Brees was fairly close this year. They were the
Speaker 1: best team. That game on Sunday easily could have gone
Speaker 1: the other way. Yeah, but they they're just so non
Speaker 1: threatening because Michael Thomas didn't have one catch, but he
Speaker 1: was hurt. It came out after all. I know, but
Speaker 1: you would think Tarall Owens played with a broken leg
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. I mean, you get your if
Speaker 1: you're on the field, you get your players the ball.
Speaker 1: I mean, Michael Thomas gets targeted twelve fifteen times a game,
Speaker 1: and all Drew could throw was the slant. He couldn't
Speaker 1: throw anything else, and the defense knew this. Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: they kept creeping up, creeping up, creeping up. They were
Speaker 1: up twenty thirteen and Jared and they started to roll
Speaker 1: and then Jared Cook gives it up a ten yard
Speaker 1: line and it's all right. They could have won. They
Speaker 1: probably should have. They were at home and up, they
Speaker 1: were up ten points, they were up significant league. They
Speaker 1: were not going to beat Green Bay and Green Bay
Speaker 1: no way. You're right in my opinion, But you're right
Speaker 1: they could have won that game. I mean, I didn't
Speaker 1: think Tampa looked great, but they they played well enough
Speaker 1: when they needed to. And you don't make mistakes, you know, Tampa,
Speaker 1: but can't go into Green Bay and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you know, you have a couple of turnovers there, even
Speaker 1: though you've blown out green Bay earlier in the year.
Speaker 1: How big is this game for Tom Brady Because he's
Speaker 1: won these Super Bowls, He's been in nine, he's won six.
Speaker 1: But how big is this that this is your first
Speaker 1: season removed from the Patriots and you're going into Lambeau
Speaker 1: against Aaron Rodgers the MVP. I can't say it's bigger
Speaker 1: than a Super Bowl, but it honestly feels like it's
Speaker 1: bigger than a Super Bowl. If Tom Brady goes in
Speaker 1: and outplays Aaron Rodgers at his age, you got to
Speaker 1: factor that in. Does that sound strange when I say
Speaker 1: that to you, guys, Well, you're right because when people
Speaker 1: talk about the top two or three quarterbacks in the game,
Speaker 1: Brady is now in that next tier. He's not on
Speaker 1: that list anymore. It's Rogers, Mahomes, Prowley, Russell, Wilson, and
Speaker 1: then that second tier comes in and he's mixed in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think this is it's a big It's it's one
Speaker 1: of the biggest games of his career, and it's on
Speaker 1: a short list of biggest games of his career. I mean,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't think Brady has any more upside left. You Like,
Speaker 1: you're the goat nine super Bowls he won six. But
Speaker 1: here you are at forty three on the road against Rogers,
Speaker 1: who is his best season ever. And you know Drew
Speaker 1: Brees just retired, Philip Rivers just retired, Ben Roethlisberger is
Speaker 1: probably retiring. Eli's like Brady is, He's there. He's the
Speaker 1: guy that's going to turn out the lights. You know
Speaker 1: when he leaves the room, he just doesn't want to
Speaker 1: turn out the lights. I might be overstating this, but man,
Speaker 1: this on the short list of most important games in
Speaker 1: Brady's career. Yes, mcclem it feels a lot like Joe
Speaker 1: if he loses. It's Joe Montana in Kansas City. It
Speaker 1: feels to me a little bit like that, although he's
Speaker 1: better than Montana. Actually he's a little better than Montana
Speaker 1: was statistically. Maybe I'm totally wrong, but Montana was close. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if he'd gotten over that hump to a super Bowl,
Speaker 1: he'd be the goat, not Tom Brady. You say, you're right, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it just sounds strange that an NFC title game is
Speaker 1: maybe more or a bigger for Tom Brady. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying more important, like just a bigger moment there in
Speaker 1: his career, given that he left the Patriots and his
Speaker 1: age and he's taking on Rogers at Lambeau. Yeah, Polly,
Speaker 1: Joe Montana's first year with Kansas City after he was
Speaker 1: basically asked to leave the nine Ers, he was eleven
Speaker 1: and five. He made the Pro Bowl and they lost
Speaker 1: then FFC title game to the Bills, but he was
Speaker 1: one game away from the Super Bowl his first year away. Oh,
Speaker 1: let's see Nate and Oklahoma Hey, Nate, what's on your
Speaker 1: mind today? Hey Dan, I'm competing with it being threw
Speaker 1: Brads and Rivers retired the same year. I wanted to
Speaker 1: touch on Philip Rivers. I feel like he was a
Speaker 1: forgotten son of the trispect that was the two thousand
Speaker 1: and four or a draft class with Eli and Big
Speaker 1: Ben in Helms. You know, Eli had the notoriety of
Speaker 1: meeting Tom Brady twice since the Bold Big Ben with
Speaker 1: his Super Bowl titles. Philip Rivers was just that constant,
Speaker 1: nagging quarterback that you just always had to worry about.
Speaker 1: You know. He had Ladinium early in his career, but
Speaker 1: he was just something in San Diego you didn't think
Speaker 1: about until you kind of had to face him. And
Speaker 1: I'm really glad that he had the career that he
Speaker 1: didn't wish him the best. Yeah, I like him, I do.
Speaker 1: I always thought he was a good guest. He just
Speaker 1: didn't have postseason success. And that's the measuring stick for quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: We overvalue super Bowls. We should value them, but that
Speaker 1: usually ends a debate, like Phil Simms was a very
Speaker 1: good quarterback with the Giants. Jeff Stettler won the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl that year when Phil got hurt, and if Phil
Speaker 1: Simms had that Super Bowl, Like, the difference I think
Speaker 1: between Phil Simms being a Hall of Famer and not
Speaker 1: is he wasn't the quarterback when the Giants beat the Bills.
Speaker 1: That's it. Two rings is really hard to deny, although
Speaker 1: we've done that with Jim Plunkett. But it comes down
Speaker 1: to that's how important winning super Bowls can be. Jesse
Speaker 1: and Los Angeles is back. Hey, Jess, what's on your
Speaker 1: mind today? Hey? So last night I was sort of
Speaker 1: op night in the NBA, so I got sorry on
Speaker 1: the hockey season and I was watching Captain Penn's great
Speaker 1: matchup Crosby with the overtime winner, and the broadcaster is
Speaker 1: a great job here McGuire's and miss lug As. You know,
Speaker 1: there was something missing to the match up like that,
Speaker 1: and it was the sound of mccabilary, Doc Emeric. So
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you and the boys that there's
Speaker 1: a broadcaster that when they left, it sort of took
Speaker 1: something away from the experience. Um, Keith Jackson when he
Speaker 1: left college football took away. I mean that that there
Speaker 1: was something about Keith Jackson's voice then leaving the Dodgers
Speaker 1: certainly Doc Emeric. I would tune into a game if
Speaker 1: Doc was doing it, or if I hear his voice,
Speaker 1: I'm staying with it a little bit longer. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: growing up a Yankee fan in New Jersey, Phil Rizzuto
Speaker 1: was essentially the voice of baseball for me, and as
Speaker 1: much of he was like a character and like as
Speaker 1: funny as he was, he was sort of the that
Speaker 1: to me, he sounded like what baseball was supposed to
Speaker 1: sound like. I was just listening to meat Loafs Bat
Speaker 1: out of Hell and it came on the radio, and
Speaker 1: you have the baseball call because it's about a guy
Speaker 1: and a girl in a car, and he's treating it
Speaker 1: like it's a baseball game. First base, second base, third,
Speaker 1: Know what I'm talking about, Yes, Hunt, I used to
Speaker 1: really like Ralph Kiner and Bob Murphy in the old
Speaker 1: Mets days. He met Lindsay Nelson goes a little further back,
Speaker 1: but just brought me back to a lot of childhood memories.
Speaker 1: I thought that they were really fun too. But a
Speaker 1: national broadcaster, not a local one, because we you know,
Speaker 1: we grew up with a local one. I had Marty
Speaker 1: Benneman and Joe Nuxaw on the Reds games and they
Speaker 1: were great, But a national voice that's different, and that's
Speaker 1: where I have Keith Jackson. It was just something about
Speaker 1: when Keith came on, he had that excitement, had that twang,
Speaker 1: and it felt like he truly enjoyed the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: mcle when they pulled Brent Musburger at the end off
Speaker 1: college football, I kind of missed that. I felt he
Speaker 1: like he said, big game. Um, I always liked him
Speaker 1: better as a studio host, but yeah, I understand that
Speaker 1: where you you know, Johnny Miller and golf is another
Speaker 1: voice where when I heard it it always sounded it
Speaker 1: was just different because I didn't think Johnny was going
Speaker 1: to throw verbal bouquets at every golfer like I thought
Speaker 1: that he was going to tell you what his aren't
Speaker 1: unvarnished opinion. And I always appreciated that. But there's there's
Speaker 1: so many broadcasters down through the years that you know,
Speaker 1: you just hear that voice and you go, you know,
Speaker 1: when Howard Cosell, Howard Cosell was that was a unique voice.
Speaker 1: It wasn't it wasn't a trained voice, but he rivaled
Speaker 1: the game that he was doing, or a boxing match.
Speaker 1: Probably more so is a boxing commentator than what he
Speaker 1: did in the booth because he wasn't a football guy,
Speaker 1: but in boxing it felt like he was more of
Speaker 1: a boxing guy because his relationship with Muhammad Ali. Uh.
Speaker 1: Let me see Taylor in South Dakota. Hey Taylor, what's
Speaker 1: on your mind? Hey Dan, I'm a second time I
Speaker 1: called second time I got in anyway. Um, I think
Speaker 1: I think that I'm a first off, I'm a big
Speaker 1: Green Bath Aders fan. I haven't for thought a little kid.
Speaker 1: But I think if Tom Brady goes into Lambeau beat
Speaker 1: Aanreon Rodgers and then say say my home's in the
Speaker 1: super Bowl and stix at the NFL and beats my
Speaker 1: homes in the super Bowl, he can just kind of
Speaker 1: wash his hands and be like I did it. I
Speaker 1: went on the road. I want all three games on
Speaker 1: the road in the playoffs. I beat the supposed the
Speaker 1: second match twelve in the league, and I beat myhomes.
Speaker 1: The guy you think is the guy game? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree. I mean that. I don't think anybody will
Speaker 1: have gone through three quarterbacks, three Hall of Fame quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in succession, and first ballot Hall of Fame quarterbacks mahomes
Speaker 1: Rogers breeze if if it happened now you can say, well,
Speaker 1: breeze at the end of his career, Rogers is playing
Speaker 1: at an all time high and we don't how about
Speaker 1: how about we wait and see what happens? That's true?
Speaker 1: Right now, we got to have a hot take this.
Speaker 1: This would be as impressive as anything Brady ever accomplished.
Speaker 1: But let's see if he gets through the Green Bay
Speaker 1: Packers right now? Yes, club? Do you mean rolling through
Speaker 1: the afcast and then beating an overrated cults team? Whould
Speaker 1: feats it on the AFC's South Ooh Wow? Impressive sixteen
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Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Well? I love you Dan,
Speaker 1: and I love the staff there, and it's very entertaining show.
Speaker 1: But listening to you for years, but I almost got
Speaker 1: in an accident driving down the road when all of
Speaker 1: you in Unison just said Tom Brady is a second
Speaker 1: tier quarterback. I was like, holy cow, how to pull
Speaker 1: over to the side. Well, Polly said it, but you know,
Speaker 1: when Paul, you do want to stand by the Tom
Speaker 1: Brady usually second tier. I think it's the conventional wisdom
Speaker 1: of people who know a lot more about football that
Speaker 1: the top tier of quarterbacks the NFL now is Rogers
Speaker 1: Mahomes and I think it's Russell Wilson, but it's definitely
Speaker 1: Rogers Mahomes. Then the next tier of you know, like
Speaker 1: a quarterbacks is to I think you only have two.
Speaker 1: I think you have Rogers and Mahomes, and Brady is
Speaker 1: not with them. That's fair to say. No, we're not
Speaker 1: talking about the next level. We're talking playing today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the next level could mean you're the fifth best quarterback,
Speaker 1: fourth best quarterback. You're not one of the top two.
Speaker 1: You're not Rogers and you're not Mahomes. Yeah. See, so
Speaker 1: where do you put Brady? Then? If we sort of
Speaker 1: follow this thread a little more, because why not, where
Speaker 1: who do you put first, Lamar Jackson or Tom Brady?
Speaker 1: I would put Tom Brady. How about Josh Allen? I
Speaker 1: would put johnsh Allen. The Shawn Watson I would put
Speaker 1: to Shawn Watson. So you would have Russell Wilson, did
Speaker 1: you say, um, yeah, probably? I mean his second half
Speaker 1: was not good at all. You'd put Russell Wilson over
Speaker 1: TV twelve probably, yeah, right now? Okay? Yeah? But Ryan Tannehill,
Speaker 1: I would put him beneath Tom Justin, Herbert Well, Derek Carr,
Speaker 1: don't forget it, eddied All in his backup roll with
Speaker 1: the Cowboy. Yeah, thank you, mcleve. If we had more time,
Speaker 1: we get to draw Risky. No, how much time would
Speaker 1: we need him for the seven hour show? Oh? You
Speaker 1: know the fact that that Cold's job, whoever the quarterback
Speaker 1: there is, that's a good team. I really like them
Speaker 1: a lot this year. But if I'm if I'm the Colds,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to trade for Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: because I get damaged expensive and how costly is it
Speaker 1: gonna be? Like? What do I have to give up
Speaker 1: for Carson Wentz? Yeah, mcclevin that you know, Andrew Brands
Speaker 1: in the world keeps saying the dead cap space or
Speaker 1: some a cap space makes it impossible, like it's a
Speaker 1: thirty five million dollar hit on your cap immediately. That's
Speaker 1: just the beginning, I got you would think that would
Speaker 1: be the hurdle, the financial hurdle to get Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: and then you realize, then you get him in. Now
Speaker 1: you got to fix him. Well, Frank Reich is the
Speaker 1: guy for it. I get it, but I I I'd
Speaker 1: rather not. At what point can I throw some names
Speaker 1: at you for Well, you can't throw Joshawn Watson at
Speaker 1: me for the Colts? How about Dak Prescott? Try it
Speaker 1: outbid the Cowboys for Dak? You spend forty No, Dak
Speaker 1: is going to be the Cowboys, all right? Yeah, Now,
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, I think you have to trade for him.
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, I know, I know, well, I WoT the
Speaker 1: free ages. How about um cam Newton or Jamis Winston
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, No, Jane m I'd have to know more
Speaker 1: about Jameis Winston littaliot you're saying because he could throw
Speaker 1: it for some yards, he can, But but that team
Speaker 1: is they can run the ball, good defense. I don't
Speaker 1: want a quarterback who tries to be something he's not.
Speaker 1: That that would be my biggest concern with whoever takes
Speaker 1: over the Colts. But yeah, oh, by the way, Chris
Speaker 1: Burman on the show tomorrow. That's correct. We gonna circle
Speaker 1: the wagons. Nobody circles the wagons. You like the Buffalo. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think if the Bills win the Super Bowl, Burman's
Speaker 1: in the parade. I'm barely kidding. He's been such a
Speaker 1: Bills guy for so long. If he could, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, during COVID and any of those things. You know,
Speaker 1: he's the may of Hawaii because Aloha means helloha. Ross
Speaker 1: Chucker is gonna join us. He's doing the AFC title
Speaker 1: on offense. We'll talk to Russ. How much does he
Speaker 1: know about what's going on with Patrick Mahomes because you're
Speaker 1: you're broadcasting the game, and you know, do they have
Speaker 1: these zoom calls? And what has he found out about
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes? Is it a concussion? Is what I want
Speaker 1: to know. But he'll join his coming up and how
Speaker 1: important does he think this game is? For Tom Brady
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Speaker 1: us on the program tomorrow. Brett Favre was on TMZ
Speaker 1: Sports and he was talking about Patrick Mahomes and he
Speaker 1: says that he thinks Mahomes concussion is going to be
Speaker 1: a test for the NFL. He will want to play
Speaker 1: whether or not he passes the baseline test that he
Speaker 1: took initially and the doctor's feel he's able. This is
Speaker 1: a test for the NFL right now to see a
Speaker 1: star player in a crucial, crucial game. What will happen
Speaker 1: with their decision. We welcome in Ross Tucker, the former
Speaker 1: NFL offensive lineman, host of Ross Tucker Football Podcast, and
Speaker 1: he'll be working for Westwood One. He'll be working the
Speaker 1: sidelines for the AFC title game. Kick Off will be
Speaker 1: six forty eastern on Sunday Ross. Do we know if
Speaker 1: this is a concussion with Patrick Mahomes. It evidently Dan
Speaker 1: is not a concussion. Having watched a couple of times,
Speaker 1: I think that he had momentary trauma to the karated
Speaker 1: sinus area where the vegas, nerve and borrow receptors are located.
Speaker 1: And I think what happened was really a vasovagel reaction.
Speaker 1: Are you reading something I read that. I read that
Speaker 1: this morning from doctor David Chao the twenty years he
Speaker 1: was the Chargers team doctor. He doesn't think Mahomes actually
Speaker 1: had a concussion. He thinks basically, ever see's like a
Speaker 1: martial artist or a cop or whatever it hits someone
Speaker 1: like here. He thinks that when mac Wilson came up
Speaker 1: with his right arm and hit him in he said
Speaker 1: in twenty years he never saw it in football, But
Speaker 1: based on the different reports that are leaking out and
Speaker 1: the video, that's what he believes happened. And he doesn't
Speaker 1: think Mahomes will have any problem getting clear because it
Speaker 1: doesn't think he really had a concussion. But also he
Speaker 1: has to go through then ccussion protocol. How long does
Speaker 1: it take you to go through the protocol? I mean
Speaker 1: you can say, Look, I don't have a concussion, but
Speaker 1: if you're in the concussion protocol, you have to go
Speaker 1: through the required steps, don't you. Yeah, and one of
Speaker 1: them is a full practice. So I don't think we
Speaker 1: will hear that he is cleared until Friday afternoon, maybe
Speaker 1: Saturday morning, because they'll probably take it easy with him today.
Speaker 1: Maybe he does a full practice Thursday, then he meets
Speaker 1: with the independent neurologists. And I know, Dan, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of conspiracy theories out there. I understand that, but
Speaker 1: they do, really, they really do have independent neurologists. They're
Speaker 1: not affiliated with the team, and those people have to
Speaker 1: clear them, and they do that for a reason. They
Speaker 1: want to make sure there's somebody who's not affiliated with
Speaker 1: the team because there'd be a heck of a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure on that team doctor if that two was
Speaker 1: in charge. It's really out of everybody's hands other than
Speaker 1: that independent neurologist. At this point. Can you hide a
Speaker 1: concussion nowadays? Yeah? I think he can. You know, you
Speaker 1: can't hide what happened to Mahomes where he you know,
Speaker 1: he obviously stumbled to his feet. And I actually think Dan,
Speaker 1: even if whatever doctor Chao said even if he's cleared.
Speaker 1: I gotta think, like, I can just picture my mom
Speaker 1: right Dan, saying that boy should not be able to
Speaker 1: play football. I saw him wobbly on his feet last Sunday.
Speaker 1: He should not be able to play like I can
Speaker 1: just picture a bunch of people, my mom included, believing
Speaker 1: after what they saw last Sunday that that young man
Speaker 1: should not be able to play tackle football a week later.
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with it as long as
Speaker 1: the independent neurologist clears him. But to your point, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I had at least three concussions as
Speaker 1: a player. Dan never diagnosed, never said anything about it.
Speaker 1: Really back then, unless you were knocked out. And this
Speaker 1: is only two thousand one of two thousand date, but
Speaker 1: unless you were knocked out or you said something, there
Speaker 1: really was no way for them to know. I remember
Speaker 1: one time sitting on the bench and one of the
Speaker 1: practice squad offensive line was like, Tuck, are you okay?
Speaker 1: And I was kind of in a fog there for
Speaker 1: good three or four minutes. Drew bledsoet thrown interception like
Speaker 1: a total idiot. I tried to make the tackle and
Speaker 1: Roosevelt covin blindside of me. The first thing it hit
Speaker 1: the ground was the back of my head, and I
Speaker 1: was kind of in a daze for a good three
Speaker 1: or four minutes. But other than the one practice squad
Speaker 1: O lineman who saw me got saw me get killed.
Speaker 1: He was the only person even talked to me about it.
Speaker 1: What if Mahomes can't play, what are their chances against Buffalo? Well,
Speaker 1: the only thing I would say is two factors in that.
Speaker 1: Number One, Henny played really well. I mean, Henny did
Speaker 1: a lot of really positive things. He had one terrible interception.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what was going on there, but
Speaker 1: he played pretty well. The other thing is sometimes when
Speaker 1: there's a backup quarterback like that, I feel like Number
Speaker 1: one the other guys rally around him and played better,
Speaker 1: and number two. Whether it's conscious or subconscious, it just
Speaker 1: seems like sometimes the other side, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they don't want to say they let up,
Speaker 1: but it's like, Okay, it's not my homes. It just
Speaker 1: it changes things a little bit. I will say this though,
Speaker 1: Dan Chad, Henny's from my small hometown. Why I'm missing Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: He went to Wilson High School. I've known him for
Speaker 1: a while. He used to work out with his dad,
Speaker 1: and you know the way, I'm sure this happens to
Speaker 1: you all the time, Dan, where people tell you their
Speaker 1: kids are let me tell you about my son. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be a good athlete. I remember working out with
Speaker 1: Chad Henny's dad when I was in college. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think my son's gonna be pretty. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's gonna be great. Turns out, he started
Speaker 1: four years for one of the top ten schools in
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania and then four years at Michigan. Now he's in
Speaker 1: his thirteenth year in the NFL. So small world. We're
Speaker 1: talking to Ross Chucker the Ross Chucker Football Podcast. He'll
Speaker 1: be on the sidelines the title game with Westwood One.
Speaker 1: How important is this game to Tom Brady, to his legacy?
Speaker 1: You mean, well, I brought this up that his age
Speaker 1: a year removed from the Patriots. You just beat Breese.
Speaker 1: If you would happen to beat Aaron Rodgers at Lambo
Speaker 1: when Rogers is playing at an all time level, he's
Speaker 1: your MVP. I'm not even getting to the super Bowl yet,
Speaker 1: But I don't know if I'm overstating how big of
Speaker 1: a game. This is for Brady to do what he's doing.
Speaker 1: If you factor in the other elements here of no
Speaker 1: longer with the Patriots first year with Tampa Bay, age
Speaker 1: forty three on the road, and you're gonna beat Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers at Lambo my overstating it. No, I don't think
Speaker 1: you are. I mean, look, the only arguments people have
Speaker 1: left against Brady right is that it was it was
Speaker 1: all Belichick and coaching and that he's a system quarterback
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, which both are laughable. But whatever, if
Speaker 1: the beats Aaron Rodgers the MVP at Lambeau to go
Speaker 1: to a tenth super Bowl with a new team, even
Speaker 1: those morons will have to shut up at this point, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, even those people won't be able to say that.
Speaker 1: But to be honestly that I feel like he's kind
Speaker 1: of already done it. I mean, the Patriots had a
Speaker 1: five game deficit from twenty nineteen to this year. The
Speaker 1: Bucks had a four game improvement, and I know the
Speaker 1: rosters aren't totally the same, but let's be honest, he's
Speaker 1: the major reason for that. And now to win two
Speaker 1: more playoff games to get to a fourteenth conference championship game.
Speaker 1: I mean, think about this, He's been to fourteen conference
Speaker 1: championship games in the nineteen years he's been a starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: That's seventy four percent. It's absolutely insane. And frankly, Dan,
Speaker 1: for all the people with the system quarterback argument or
Speaker 1: the Belichick argument, well I don't I guess Brady brought
Speaker 1: the system to Tampa and New England stopped with the system.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Or for the Belichick thing, do you
Speaker 1: realize Belichick has one playoff win in the eight years
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady was not his starting quarterback. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a that's a decent sample size now for Belichick
Speaker 1: without him. By the way, Philip Rivers announced his retirement
Speaker 1: earlier this morning, we were debating. I guess the debate
Speaker 1: is first ballot Hall of Famer. What do you think.
Speaker 1: I don't think he will be. No, I don't think
Speaker 1: he will be because Number one, I think Drew Brees
Speaker 1: would be ahead of him if Drew Brees retires as expected.
Speaker 1: So as far as a first ballot guy, and Roethlisberger
Speaker 1: if you had happened to retire, correct, and not only that,
Speaker 1: I don't think Eli Manning necessarily will be a first
Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer. He might, he might not, So
Speaker 1: it might be what would that be year two or
Speaker 1: year Yeah, I guess year two for And there's not
Speaker 1: a good argument for Rivers over Eli Manning. There's just not.
Speaker 1: So I don't think Rivers get I think he eventually
Speaker 1: gets in, sort of like Dan Fouts did. But I
Speaker 1: don't think Rivers is a first ballot Hall of Famer. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think he will be. But if I said
Speaker 1: you could have Ben Rivers or Eli as your quarterback
Speaker 1: for a decade, Ben one, for sure. Those next two
Speaker 1: guys are tough. Those next two guys are really, really tough.
Speaker 1: I think I'd probably I feel like we're a little
Speaker 1: bit skewed based on how the last five years went
Speaker 1: for Rivers in Eli. If we're talking about their first
Speaker 1: ten years or ten years in the prime of the
Speaker 1: career prime, I'd probably go Eli, because you know, I
Speaker 1: think people forget Rivers. Like his first two years Dan,
Speaker 1: they were loaded, I mean they were loaded. They were
Speaker 1: I mean Antonio Gates and Ladanian Toomas and the Old
Speaker 1: Lion was awesome, Sean Merriman, and I mean they were
Speaker 1: loaded and for whatever reason, he wasn't able to get
Speaker 1: it done to get to a Super Bowl, and when
Speaker 1: it Eli did it twice. Hard to take that away
Speaker 1: from him. I think we got some really interesting offseason situations.
Speaker 1: Obviously with DeShawn Watson there, but the Saints quarterbacking situation,
Speaker 1: the Colts quarterbacking situation, what's going on with the Eagles,
Speaker 1: what's going on with the Bears, Dak Prescott coming back
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys, Jimmy Garoppolo's future in San Francisco. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of moving What the Patriots are going
Speaker 1: to do. The number one quarterbacking situation that you would
Speaker 1: love to have an answer to right now is what
Speaker 1: aside from DeShawn Watson. Yeah, I was gonna say Watson
Speaker 1: because I feel like he's the domino that everything else,
Speaker 1: you know, comes off of. You know, I'd love to
Speaker 1: know about New England, But just knowing them Dan and
Speaker 1: what they look at in terms of value, I think
Speaker 1: that they'll kind of wait it out. I think that
Speaker 1: they'll kind of see what happens with these other things
Speaker 1: with Jamis Winston and other places before they pounce. I
Speaker 1: guess I'll say Indie, and I'll say Indie because I
Speaker 1: feel like Philadelphia is directly related to it, because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people out there that seem to think
Speaker 1: the Colts want to get Carson Wentz to reunite him
Speaker 1: with Frank Reich, and I saw reports this morning that
Speaker 1: that's what Carson Wentz supposedly once again, that's just a report,
Speaker 1: but that's what Wentz supposedly want. So I think probably
Speaker 1: the Colts because they're a playoff team, they're very good,
Speaker 1: and they might go and potentially get the quarterback from
Speaker 1: the Eagles, which then I guess means Hurts would be
Speaker 1: the guy in Philadelphia. Have fun this weekend. Safe travel,
Speaker 1: It's always great to talk to you. Thank you, buddy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my pleasure. I'm sideline duty Dan, but I'm not actually
Speaker 1: allowed on the sidelines, so I think I might be
Speaker 1: getting paid to sit in the third row and have
Speaker 1: a beer and a hot dog. Hopefully we'll find out.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Ron Ross Tucker Ross Tucker Football Podcast. You'll
Speaker 1: be in the sidelines for Westwood One Radio, where you
Speaker 1: can't be on the sidelines because you have to be
Speaker 1: in the stands. All these reporters, sideline reporters aren't on
Speaker 1: the sidelines when they report Tim in New Hampshire. Hey Tim,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Hey Dan? How are you goody?
Speaker 1: Here's a hypothetical for you now. I want to get
Speaker 1: your opinion. If you were a Bills fan and the
Speaker 1: Bills make it to the Super Bowl, who would you
Speaker 1: rather face the MVP? Aaron Rodgers number one seed Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers or Tom Brady, who is what thirty five
Speaker 1: and three against Buffalo. It'll be a home game in
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. Plus the Bucks really took it to Green
Speaker 1: Bay earlier this year? Do you like? Oh, Tim, thank
Speaker 1: for the phone call. I think if you factor in
Speaker 1: the so called home field advantage, I don't know how
Speaker 1: many fans are going to be allowed to be in
Speaker 1: the building, but you get Tampa to have a week
Speaker 1: of prep work where they can actually have a normal life,
Speaker 1: as opposed to when you go to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: There's nothing normal about that for these teams. And if
Speaker 1: you're able to have a so called normal life, you're
Speaker 1: not going to have many media members for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I guess I'd rather face Aaron Rodgers on a neutral
Speaker 1: field than Tom Brady in Tampa. I mean, I'd rather
Speaker 1: not face Aaron Rodgers at all the way he's playing
Speaker 1: right now. But I guess I would take that over
Speaker 1: a home game for Tom Brady. Plus I never bet
Speaker 1: against Brady, especially when it comes to these games. You
Speaker 1: just you can't. Yeah, Paul, I wonder if Tampa makes
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. Well, like the second week of Super
Speaker 1: Bowl Week, Well, the Tampa Bay players be allowed to
Speaker 1: be at their homes or do you think they'll be
Speaker 1: sequestered at a team hotel, team facility, because I've ever
Speaker 1: had a home super Bowl before, right, Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: bet that there. They don't allow them too much freedom
Speaker 1: even to be home with their families. Well, didn't the
Speaker 1: Rams have the Super Bowl against the Steelers in Pasadena?
Speaker 1: That's as close as I think we've had to a
Speaker 1: home field advantage, even though they didn't play in the
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl. Yeah, mcle I feel like teams stay in
Speaker 1: hotels for home games too, the night before at least. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could see that. I remember when we did the
Speaker 1: New York Super Bowl. I stayed in the hotel and
Speaker 1: your dime. Remember that. You probably don't remember we had
Speaker 1: a New York super Bowl. You guys were all we
Speaker 1: were all within commuting disins that week. We did that?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah? And why were you in a hotel just
Speaker 1: because you know, I had a lot of parties and
Speaker 1: stuff to go to. I couldn't be taking care of
Speaker 1: my infant at home when it was Super Bowl. That's right.
Speaker 1: You wanted to get out of the apartment and you
Speaker 1: would have done the same thing. I forgot why you
Speaker 1: did it, but now I understand why you did it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know I didn't wore a card. Yeah you did,
Speaker 1: of course you did. Yeah, Paul, that was a celebrity
Speaker 1: Leaden hotel. We stayed at that New Yorkshire Bowl week
Speaker 1: in the lobby cost A shooting pool, the Ganz of
Speaker 1: Word Yes, oh yes, Ganz of Word. Yeah. And then
Speaker 1: you saw no Seaton. Did you go up to Costner
Speaker 1: or you decided not to No. I saw him one
Speaker 1: day in the hotel at the bar. I was there
Speaker 1: and I was like, holy crap, Kevin Costa's right there. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then the next day I saw I met up
Speaker 1: with my parents and they were in the lobby and
Speaker 1: I'm like, Ma, You're never gonna believe this. Guess who
Speaker 1: was here at the bar last night. Kevin Costner. He
Speaker 1: was standing like right over there, And as I turned
Speaker 1: to say, right over there, I could have been touching
Speaker 1: shoulders with him. He was so close to me, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I hope he didn't
Speaker 1: hear me say that. I felt so dumb. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was hanging out the bar and they scarf on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had a scarf, but he pulled it off because
Speaker 1: he was killing it. Yeah, killing it. He's shooting pool.
Speaker 1: He can shoot some stick. All right, we'll take a break.
Speaker 1: Last off for phone calls. We'll close up shop right
Speaker 1: after this. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine
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Speaker 1: to Joe Biden, forty sixth President of the United States
Speaker 1: as he was just inaugurated. And beautiful day there in Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. Last off for phone calls. What we learned,
Speaker 1: what's in store tomorrow. We'll get to all that. We
Speaker 1: have a lottery situation here, and it didn't start out
Speaker 1: as a lottery situation because we were all involved. We
Speaker 1: put money in. By the way, nobody won last night,
Speaker 1: and we put our money in and pulled it together,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I'm back in the back
Speaker 1: talking to the big German Eric, and he went rogue
Speaker 1: and I said, wait, I thought you're involved, So he goes, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know, I went, I went on my own there.
Speaker 1: So now it's kind of created a little bit. There's
Speaker 1: an awkward situations. There's something awkward going on in here
Speaker 1: now because the big German is there, and then nobody
Speaker 1: really knows what to talk to him about because we
Speaker 1: don't feel like he's one of us anymore. Yeah, Set,
Speaker 1: this is not a team player and he's not just
Speaker 1: just a stunning turn of events for the big German. Yeah.
Speaker 1: In fact, his dog Penny didn't even want to come
Speaker 1: in today. Distance herself. Yes, she is distanced herself from
Speaker 1: the big German. So when you see you can see
Speaker 1: if you're watching on Peacock, no Penny Penny said, nope,
Speaker 1: don't want to be associated with this guy. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: we do have one policy issue. Seaton is the gatekeeper
Speaker 1: of all things lottery. He collected the money yesterday, bought
Speaker 1: the tickets, held on to them, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Do you have to have your money in before Seaton
Speaker 1: leaves the building to buy the tickets? That's going to
Speaker 1: be the new policy today. Yeah, I think he has
Speaker 1: to have cash in hand. Yeah, and then we're just
Speaker 1: gonna actually get to the point where, sorry, he didn't
Speaker 1: get your five bucks in. Yeah, it looks like you
Speaker 1: lost out on forty okay, And that's that's official policy,
Speaker 1: official policy. If Seaton doesn't have the money in hand,
Speaker 1: you did not give him five dollars, then you do
Speaker 1: not take part when we win hundreds of millions of dollars.
Speaker 1: That is the biggest news in American in the past
Speaker 1: ten minutes. Yes, done. If you don't have five dollars
Speaker 1: cash on you, can you leave some kind of collateral
Speaker 1: as there's no other scenario. This isn't something funny. It's
Speaker 1: not a joke. I'm making a joke. I looked at
Speaker 1: my wad. I have two singles in there and some
Speaker 1: some coins. That's enough for one ticket, two singles. How
Speaker 1: funny is this gonna be? When we come in and
Speaker 1: we are making it rain and uh and you at
Speaker 1: the club, We're not even no, the club will be here. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have James Harden come here? Did you see
Speaker 1: where Udanna's haslem? Who's still on the Miami Heat, which
Speaker 1: is amazing. He said that Harden is known for his
Speaker 1: partying habits, and he didn't think it would be a
Speaker 1: good idea that the Miami Heat brought in James Harden
Speaker 1: because of South Beach. They talk about the South Beach
Speaker 1: flu where teams are going to South Beach and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden they get rocked a little bit because
Speaker 1: they stay out and the party just a little bit there.
Speaker 1: George in Ohio, Hey George, what's on your mind today? Hey,
Speaker 1: good morning, Good morning. First of all, sad to hear
Speaker 1: about the passing a Hall of Fame pitcher Don Sutton.
Speaker 1: I remember him as a real tough competitor yep. And
Speaker 1: also we're talking about announcers. My favorite announcer of all
Speaker 1: time was Kurt Gaudy. Yeah, because our little town here, Zanesville,
Speaker 1: was a been an NBC affiliate since the early fifties,
Speaker 1: and I loved it when he was covering like my teams,
Speaker 1: like the sixty nine Rose Bowl when the Buckeyes bj
Speaker 1: and the seventy one Basketball Term the Buckeyes lost to
Speaker 1: Western Kentucky. All that sucks so bad? Well, let me know,
Speaker 1: Zanesville still has the y Bridge, right still? Really yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's the only one in the world. They
Speaker 1: had one in Germany that I think got bombed during
Speaker 1: the war. But yeah, Zanesville is where I was born.
Speaker 1: Thank you, George, thanks for calling it. Let's go around
Speaker 1: the room. What we learned on the program. Tond'll start
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