1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 5 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Wednesday, 7 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: January sixth, twenty twenty one, Season sixteen, Episode number ninety two. 8 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: Welcome to the latest edition of The Break Life from 9 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: s WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, we are presented 10 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: by Geico and we've got a show full of a 11 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: lot of different topics. We're gonna hit a lot of 12 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: different things today, everything from Jerod Jerry had to say 13 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: in his press converse to what Mike McCarthy had to 14 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: say in press conference, a couple players at press conferences. Um. 15 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: And in the final segment, we're gonna get you guys 16 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: ready for some playoff football. The Cowboys won't be involved, 17 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: but we're gonna pick some of the games that will 18 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: be happening this weekend. A lot of football happening this week. 19 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: You will be six playoff games between Saturday and Sunday 20 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: in the NFL. We're excited about it, and I'm sure 21 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: you guys will be as well. Let's jump in and first, 22 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: what are you gigging about, Nick, Because don't speak for 23 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: me that I'm excited. You're not excited about the NFL playoffs? Yeah, 24 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, it'll be if it's on, it's on, 25 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: but excited about it. Okay, my bad. I didn't mean 26 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: all excited about the NFL playoffs. Yes, like videolutely two 27 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: days of back to back to back football games, good teams, 28 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: Sign me the hell out. I'm in. Yeah, Okay, I 29 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: thought you were a bigger sports fan than that. Like 30 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: I thought, yea, if sports is all you're excited about it, 31 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: and so for playoff NFL football, I thought you'd be 32 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: really excited about it. But I get a watch. I'll 33 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: watch mainly because we're you're gonna force us to make 34 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: picks here and then if we don't you don't have 35 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: the right picks, then we'll be talking about it next week. 36 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: So I'll watched, but I'm not gonna be like, oh 37 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: my god, Seahawks and Rams. Okay, yeah, I'll be excited. 38 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: I'm I've been excited since I saw it last Well, 39 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: he he's he's an Arkansas fan, so he doesn't know 40 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: much about that playoff world. Jesus never been in the playoffs. True, well, 41 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: we haven't either at Texas. I haven't been saying much 42 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: about Jesus. I hadn't even been in the ball game. 43 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 1: You know, had a ball game scheduled until Oh, here 44 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: we go with that. Nick's not happy about that ball game. Cancel. No, not, 45 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: but you know you don't want you want to take 46 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: a few minutes to sound off about that. Are you good? 47 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: You're good? That's all right, all right, let's jump in. 48 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: I can feel that, I can feel the attention here. 49 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I hated that before they out of the game. 50 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: Oh no, I know, I know that whole program, the 51 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: whole thing, like cool Town program, Color Scott everything. Yeah, Lord, 52 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 1: here we go. Let's ta a little Cowboys football. Um. 53 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: I want to start first with with just kind of 54 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: the big overviews. There were a couple of different guys, 55 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: uh that had things to say about the season. Let's 56 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: start with the biggest of the guys, Jerry Jones. Um. 57 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: He said yesterday that obviously they fell far short of expectations, 58 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: and he really missed. He said, I really missed it 59 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: relative to how important it would be to stay with 60 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: the same philosophy. That's that one's on me. I'll take 61 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: that one. Basically, what he was saying was their decision 62 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: to to do something different on defense philosophically, Um, he 63 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: puts on himself. My question for you is how much 64 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: blame do you put on Jerry versus McCarthy and Nolan 65 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: with regards to them making the decision to change the 66 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: defense philosophically going into this season. Let's start first with you. Nick. Now, 67 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: I don't think, you know, that should be on Jerry. 68 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I really I don't because and I don't 69 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: think Jerry should put it on himself. You know, is 70 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: it his job to figure out what the philosophy of 71 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: the defense is. I mean, I don't think it. I 72 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: don't think And by the way, there's plenty of other 73 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: stuff he can take credit for him. Yeah, that went wrong, 74 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, but but that defense needed a change. 75 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought that was the whole point of 76 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: making changes here, Mary Nelly. And it wasn't like it 77 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: was great. It was it was okay, but it needed 78 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: a change. And so it just it just this was 79 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: a perfect storm. What's the opposite of a perfect storm? 80 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: I mean, because that's what this was. It just didn't 81 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: work out. It's just it was. It was not a 82 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: good year for Mike Nolan to come in here and 83 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: say we're gonna have this complex defense because the guys 84 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: weren't ready to handle it and and couldn't handle it. Really, 85 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: So I don't put it on Jared. I've just put 86 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: it on the fact that the coach and the players 87 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: mix with the combination of COVID was just bad. It's 88 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: just a science experiment that just blew up. Amber No. 89 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I know that there are a lot of 90 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: fans that are currently like upset for different reasons at 91 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones right now, but I wouldn't blame that on 92 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: him that specifically. I mean, you hire someone and you 93 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: pay someone to do that job. That is not his job. 94 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,119 Speaker 1: That's the coach's job, and that's what they are being 95 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: paid to do and figure out, and they should know 96 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: what is right for the team and what to do. 97 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: Especially in a crazy year like twenty twenty. We saw 98 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: everything that was happening with COVID, how that affected football 99 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: and the time being in person and all that, So 100 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: why try to go in and try to change the philosophy. Instead, 101 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,239 Speaker 1: take that year and just try to limit the changes 102 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: that you need to do, because that just creates more 103 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: work in an environment that isn't necessarily fit for that 104 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: kind of change at the moment. So I definitely don't 105 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: put that on Jerry at all, Dave, Yeah, you know, 106 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: And I mean the buck stops with Jerry Jones, and 107 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: so every time the Cowboys come up short, he definitely 108 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: deserves his share of the criticism. And to his credit, 109 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know that anybody handles criticism 110 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: better than Jerry Jones. So, like, I'm not worried about it. 111 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: But isn't this the classic case of Jerry Jones can't win? 112 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: Like if Jerry Jones had forced Mike McCarthy and Mike 113 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: Nolan to implement the defense that he wants, then it's 114 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: crazy Jerry always tinker in with the team, can't get 115 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: out of the way. But you know, now people are 116 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 1: saying like, oh, he should have known better, he shouldn't 117 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: have made him change, Like he doesn't get to win 118 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: in this scenario because if he had forced them to 119 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: do something different, then he would be the medalsome owner, 120 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: and since he didn't, he's the absentee owner. Like, you 121 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: can't have it both ways. So he hired football people 122 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: to make football decisions and he got out of the way. 123 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: That's what people want him to do. So no, I 124 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: don't put that on him. So let me ask you this. 125 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: So since he as he's talking about this, and him 126 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: talking so much, this isn't the first time I've heard 127 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: him talk about the fact that he really feels like 128 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: the problem this year was trying to do too much 129 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: on defense, trying to change too much too fast under 130 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: these circumstances. Do you think that that is leading him 131 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: in his mind to opt to go the route of 132 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: keeping Mike Nolan because he thinks that maybe some of 133 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: these decisions were a little bit or at least the 134 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: performance was a little bit out of his control based 135 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: upon the circumstances of COVID and not being able to 136 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: really implement the things they want to implement. Let's start 137 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: with you Amber. To me, the way I see it 138 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: is that if we as viewers see it from afar, 139 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: you as a coach that is up close and very 140 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: close to the team and everything, and watch this film 141 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: over and over again. You should notice things. So that's 142 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: my problem. It's like when we get to see it 143 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: and then they don't really see it, or maybe they 144 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: do see it, but they don't really talk about it 145 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: to the media. Oh, that's that's my problem. I don't 146 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: think that. I just don't have the patience for it, 147 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: and I keep talking about it. I'm like, I'm trying 148 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: to be a patient person. And I know that Jerry 149 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: he's a very patient guy. He's a he likes giving 150 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: people the benefit of the doubt. And great on him 151 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: because in some cases that really has worked out. But 152 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: in some other cases, this is just the scenario where 153 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: me personally, I wouldn't give it another year just because 154 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: it just took way too long. There's no reason why 155 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: we had to wait until the end of December to 156 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: start seeing some improvement. Basic basic improvement as far as 157 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: like will empower, like the fight to want to play 158 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: football on the field and play decent football. So to me, 159 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I just don't have the 160 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: patience for it, and they need to make that change, 161 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: and I don't know if Jerry will will make that 162 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: change or not. Dave, I think I can probably speak 163 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: for all of us when I say, like nobody likes 164 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: to like you don't want to put your hand in 165 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: somebody else's pockets, and like nobody likes talking about whether 166 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: or not somebody should lose their job. Having said that, 167 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: I even though I just sort of defended Jerry and 168 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: the you know, the decision to change the scheme, Like 169 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: to Amber's point, I just think there's a certain standard 170 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: that you have to hold an NFL team to regardless 171 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: of the circumstances. And there's two teams in the playoffs 172 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: right now with first year coaching staffs and all the 173 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: changes that go on, you know, go into that. Cleveland 174 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: and Washington both managed to put together playoff seasons despite 175 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: all of that. And you know, compared to the offense, 176 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: at least the Dallas defense, like they didn't face nearly 177 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: as much hardship. Yeah, there was injury in the secondary. 178 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: You didn't have Laton for a decent chunk of the season. 179 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: He lost Gerald McCoy. That's stuff that happens in any 180 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: NFL season. And you know, to allow the most points 181 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: in franchise history, and you know, the Cowboys are a 182 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: proud franchise, but they've had some bad seasons, like some 183 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: really bad seasons. It doesn't sit well with me. And 184 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: just the depth of the ineptitude is not some thing 185 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: that I think any NFL team should ever have to experience. 186 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: So you know, they picked it up at times over 187 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: the second half of the season, but I don't think 188 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: that's enough for me to have faith that it's worth 189 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: given it another go. And to your point, Dave, I 190 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: actually heard Jerry also mentioned on that conference call or 191 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: on that that press conference um that that he also 192 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: felt like this um that they weren't, that there were 193 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: no He pointed out that there were teams that also 194 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: had first year head coach coaches that were in the playoffs, 195 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: So he's well aware of that, and that's something that 196 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: that at least in that context, he was willing to 197 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: throw out there publicly that there were other teams to 198 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: handle this much better than the Cowboys did under the 199 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: same circumstances. Nick, what are your thoughts there? I'll ask you, Derek, 200 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: what day is it? Tuesday? Wednesday? Yeah, Wednesday? Well month 201 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: is it January? See? Those are that's the way you 202 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: answer a question that you know of the answer. But 203 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: Mike Nolan, the question was asked twice to Jerry Jones. 204 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: He had long answers, didn't even mention Mike Nolan by name, 205 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: went around and round and round and round and around, 206 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: I think if he was coming. But he got asked 207 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: twice like wait a second, you didn't answer the first time, 208 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: what about Mike Nolan? Well, you know, and I'm upset 209 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: we're not in the playoffs and now that so that's 210 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: a great point. Like that's the thing about Jerry and 211 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: you and you guys have covered him for a long time. 212 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: It's it's often not what he says. It's often what 213 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: he chooses not to say, right, yeah, because he's the 214 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: king of that emphatic like yes, oh when he wants 215 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: like an emphatic point, he certainly does. Yeah. So you 216 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: know all he often says, I'm not trying to be trite. 217 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes he is. Sometimes he is. And he didn't start 218 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: that one without not trying to be tried, right, I 219 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, again, I'm not Dave said it best, 220 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, we're not trying to, you know, say, 221 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: oh this guy should be fine, right, but you shouldn't 222 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: make a change. And I think it's I think it's 223 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: there's a change needed, and I think it's just if 224 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: Jerry really was gonna not make a change, I think 225 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: he probably would have said it. I've been emphatic about 226 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: saying that. I think so. But I also think that 227 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: there's probably some more digesting that he asked to do 228 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: with regards to looking at everything. And as Jerry does 229 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: oftentimes get opinions from a lot of different people because 230 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: he tends to do that, and he'll talk to a 231 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: lot of different people, and I think that's when he'll 232 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: have an opinion on what he really wants. Well, everybody 233 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: thinks that Jerry's the guy that comes in and just 234 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: tells the coach what to do. I mean, and maybe 235 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's happened before, and I'm sure it happens 236 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: with other teams, and here we are in this first 237 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: season and the last thing he wants to do is 238 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: tell Mike McCarthy what to do on this. But sometimes 239 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: you have to step in and I don't know, we'll see, 240 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. I mean, maybe he's not let go, 241 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,599 Speaker 1: maybe he's reassigned, but either way, I think you have 242 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: to have some changes on this. The way the scheme is. 243 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: On the question of Nolan DeMarcus Lawrence on his press conference, 244 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: he was asked about Mike Nolan. His quote was, when 245 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: you're playing with young guys, you have to take into 246 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: consideration that some things that are easy for me, speaking 247 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: of himself, won't be for the next person. He respects 248 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: Nolan as the man because he looked as a man. 249 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, because he looked himself in the mirror and 250 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: he adjusted that. Being said, does this in your mind 251 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: signal that players, at least some players think Nolan got 252 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: better and should have been and that should be considered 253 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: when determining his future. Day We'll start with you. I mean, 254 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: that's a nice thing for him to say that he 255 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: looked in the mirror, but I like, I don't hear 256 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: that and just think of it as a ringing endorsement. 257 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: And you know, DeMarcus Lawrence is he's got a pretty 258 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: strict philosophy. Going back to my point, you know, he 259 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: he does not enjoy talking about other people's jobs. You 260 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: try to get him to talk about like Zeke or 261 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: Dack's contract and so like, I don't know if DeMarcus 262 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: Lawrence is going to come right out and you know, 263 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: put that out there, but just trying to read between 264 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: the lines. That doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement that 265 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: he's like this is my guy. I mean, and that's 266 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: kind of that's kind of where I fall too. That's 267 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: that's the point I was trying to make, is like, yes, 268 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: the defense got better after like Halloween, like after that 269 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: Washington game, they cleaned it up a little bit, the 270 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: first Washington game they cleaned it up. But was it 271 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: good enough, Like was it just this transformation that you're like, yes, 272 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: we are headed in the right direction or did it 273 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: go from historically awful to still pretty bad? You know, 274 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: and is that enough to merit sticking with this? And 275 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't think it is? Okay, I think I think 276 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: the schedule got easier. I don't think the team got 277 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: necessarily better. I do think the secondary got a little 278 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: better as they got their guys back, But you know, 279 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: they didn't really beat anybody, you know good they they got, 280 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: you know, they got those guys to turn the ball over, 281 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, Mullins and and you know what's the Brandon 282 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: Allen from since I mean, you know, just quarterbacks that 283 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: you don't consider to be that good. Kyler Murray didn't 284 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: turn the ball over on them, and you know, I 285 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: don't even think Matt Ryan did, even though they won 286 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: that game. And you know that they played well against Pittsburgh, 287 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: but when Pittsburgh needed to score, they went and scored 288 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: and won the game. So I just think that they 289 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: got the schedule guy easier. I don't know if they 290 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: got that better, that much better, just kind of the 291 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: way the schedule win. Now, Amber, No, That's what I 292 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: was gonna say as well. It's like, are we supposed 293 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: to get excited about a defense that can beat or 294 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: play well against the losing team like that? That's not exciting. 295 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: I want to see them be competitive against better teams, 296 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: against teams that are not losing teams. So basically, what 297 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm trying to say like, absolutely not. I'm not going 298 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: to be fooled by what we saw in the second 299 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: half of the season towards the end of the season. 300 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,479 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be blinded by those all those takeaways 301 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: that they were able to get. But at the same time, 302 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: I will say this, and I mentioned it earlier, I 303 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: did see some improvement as far as the will to play. 304 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: You know, at the beginning of the season, we saw 305 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: these guys with no drive, no desire, like there was 306 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: like the passion missing out there. But then towards the 307 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: second half, we started seeing that, And I don't know 308 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: if that was maybe the effect of being criticized so 309 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: much and you know, all over social media. I mean, 310 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: these guys want to say they don't pay attention to 311 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: the outside noise, but that's very hard to keep away. 312 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: So I'm sure that did have an effect in the 313 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: locker room and between these guys. So I don't know 314 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: how much credit to give Mike Nolan as far as that, 315 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: but just overall, I don't think that it was enough. 316 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna take our first break. When we 317 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: come back, We're don't talk about Dak Prescott. 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Let's start first with Jerry. 375 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: He said on the topic of leverage in this negotiation, 376 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: his quote was, I don't know how you could have 377 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: anymore speaking of Dak's leverage in this negotiation, my question 378 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: for you guys is how significant is it that Jerry 379 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: says this publicly and what kind and how much leverage 380 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: do you think the Cowboys still have. Let's start first, Nick, I, 381 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he's negotiating right there. I 382 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: think that when he's talking to the media, I think 383 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: he's that's a way of negotiating. I don't know. I 384 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: find it hard to believe that if Jerry really really 385 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 1: thought that that he would say that, So, you know, 386 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: I mean, and I don't know if I really agree 387 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: with it. I don't know if there's leveridge there for 388 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: either side and really not really. I mean, if Dak 389 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: would have played throughout the season the way he was 390 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: playing and all that, then yeah, but I mean, and 391 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: then he gets hurt. So I don't know. I don't 392 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: know if there's leverage really either either way. And the 393 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: fact that he said it makes me think that it's 394 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: probably still somewhere in the middle. I don't know, amber 395 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: I don't really have I don't know what to make 396 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: out of it. I don't know if that really makes 397 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: me feel any different than I already did in the past. 398 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: But it makes me wonder. I mean, and you guys 399 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: know more about contract and all that, and I know 400 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: that we still don't know how the whole cap thing 401 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: is going to be affected this year, with the whole 402 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: COVID thing and all the like money that the NFL 403 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: lost this previous year. But would that if how much 404 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: money they offer Dak or like, does that number change 405 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: or does it stay the same. And that's the big 406 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: problem is that's you mean, Dak is gonna want what 407 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: he wants regardless of the salary cap. You know, Stephen 408 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: Jones loves to say that's not the player's problem to 409 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: figure out how to make it work, But that's what's 410 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: gonna make it tricky. Well, that's the that's the biggest question. Then, 411 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: I mean, where does that land? Because you keep talking 412 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: or they keep talking about Okay, you have to keep 413 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: in mind, yes, Dak Prescott is our main priority, but 414 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: at the same time, you have to keep in mind 415 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: that we need to have guys around him that can 416 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: make it work as well, and for that you need 417 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: to pay that talent as well. So it just makes 418 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: me wonder. I mean, does that drive the conversation somewhere else, 419 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: or they give him the franchise tag or I don't know, 420 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: I just see it. Maybe this might be another year 421 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: where maybe he does at a franchise tag based on like, 422 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: you don't really know what's going to happen with the 423 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: whole NFL income and cap salary. And again, that is 424 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: not a conversation I can discuss much about because I 425 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: don't know. But it's just there's a lot of unknown 426 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: when it comes to finances around the NFL right now, 427 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: So I don't know what's going to happen there, Dave. 428 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: I can think of one way Dak Prescott could have 429 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: more leverage, and if it was, it's if he wasn't 430 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: using crutches to get around right now. I mean, that's 431 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: just kind of the unfortunate reality of the situation. But 432 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: I do think he's got a lot of leverage. And 433 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: I also think that Amber makes a good point. But like, again, 434 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: that's not Dak Prescott's problem, and we know that, yes, 435 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: the salary cap is going to be impacted right now, 436 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: but it's going to go up. The NFL is going 437 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: to negotiate new TV deals for lots and lots and 438 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: lots of money. And if I was Dak and his representation, 439 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: I'd be like, yeah, that's that's tough. You're gonna have 440 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: a cap crunch this year, But it won't be there 441 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: for that long because it's gonna skyrocket when they signed 442 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: those new deals next year or in the next you 443 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: know what, next twelve eighteen months whenever that is. So 444 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if Dak has the 445 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: maximum leverage, but I think he's got a lot of it. 446 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: And me personally, I don't disagree with y'all that maybe 447 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: this is a negotiating tactic. But to me, I think 448 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones recognizes that if he wants Dak Prescott to 449 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: be his quarterback, he's gonna have to pay a premium 450 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: for it, and there's just not really a way around that. 451 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: And I thought it was interesting that maybe he doesn't 452 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: mean every word of what he said, but to me, 453 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 1: it says he recognizes that. And maybe I'm just being optimistic, 454 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: but I hope it means it leads to them getting 455 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: a deal done sooner rather than later. Yeah, I do 456 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: kind of agree with that because and I a little 457 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: disagree with you a bit nick on that because I 458 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: think the leverage really is on Dak's side. Now, I 459 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: don't I know Jerry and Steven, and I've been in 460 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: negotiate with players. I've been in negotiating with them on 461 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: business things. They're very shrewd negotiators, so they don't say 462 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: anything that doesn't have that they're not going to use 463 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: at some point. So this is all a part of 464 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: their negotiations, like it all goes into it. But I 465 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: will say this, I think time is on Dak's side. 466 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: The longer this thing goes on, the more leveraged Dak has. 467 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: And the reason why is because after this next season, 468 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: like the Cowboys, we all agree. I think we all 469 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: agree that there is a likely chance that the Cowboys 470 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: are gonna franchise tag him even before they get a 471 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: deal done going into this offseason. If they're going to 472 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: franchise him, then basically Dad could sit there and say, okay, 473 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: so they're one of two options. You can either give 474 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: me a long term deal of what I want, or 475 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: I play on the franchise tag this year, which means 476 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make what thirty I think it's thirty eight 477 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: thirty nine something like that this year, and then next 478 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: year it's gonna be cost prohibitive for you to franchise 479 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: me again, so I become a free agent and I 480 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: can go in as long as there are other teams 481 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: out there that are willing to pay him what he's 482 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: asking for in a contract demand. He owns the leverage. 483 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: He just plays this year at that thirty eight thirty nine, 484 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: whatever that number is, it's the franchise tag this year, 485 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: and then he's free right so to me. The more 486 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: time goes on, the more leverage, leverage he has if 487 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: the Cowboys don't want to risk losing him because he 488 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: can determine what he does after this next year. I 489 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: don't agree with that. Why because because what if he 490 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: goes I mean, he went eight and eight the year before, 491 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: he went one, two and three this year if he 492 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: doesn't do if if he has another year where he's 493 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 1: got his team in the playoffs, then and what if 494 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: he gets hurt against he before he has never gotten hurt. 495 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: Now he got hurt and he didn't play that well 496 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: or his team didn't play that well beforehand. So the 497 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: more time goes on, I think the price tag actually 498 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: goes down. And I'll actually say something you guys will 499 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: all disagree with. I think it is Dak's problem. You 500 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: say it's not Dax's problem to figure it out. I 501 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: think partially it is his problem. He's the leader of 502 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: the team in the quarterback, so he can sit there 503 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: and you can beat Deshaun Watson and get forty million 504 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: a year, but who's around. So I think in this 505 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: weird year in yes, the cat might go up work 506 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: with the team. They'll work with you. You want to 507 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: be the quarterback of the team, you know, you got 508 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: more money in your pocket because you are the quarterback 509 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboy. With that as a fact, nobody 510 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: can argue that. But work with the team here and 511 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: let them and let them figure out this thing as 512 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: they get by this unique year. I think it is 513 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: his problem. Let's go back to that winning argument. I 514 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: have two words for you, Kirk Cousins. You don't have 515 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: to be a winning quarterback to make a ton of 516 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: money in the NFL. All you have to do is 517 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: be a quarterback that has promised to be a quarterback 518 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: that teams look at and say, is he better than 519 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: what we got number one and number two? Is he 520 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: good enough where if we if we can do certain 521 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: things that we can, he can take us championship. And 522 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt that Dak Prescott is 523 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: that kind of quarterback, regardless of whether they go eight 524 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: and eighth this year or not. I've never been in 525 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: a fight, but if I got hit in the face twice, 526 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: I think the third time I'd have my hands up. 527 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: So at some point the league's gonna have their hands 528 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: up and they say these guys are not worth it. 529 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: And the Cowboys are trying to do that right now. Yeah. 530 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: The difference is the difference is you're talking from a 531 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: standpoint of a frame chise, it's had a quarterback for 532 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, go back, go back and be that 533 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: franchise that you were back in two thousand and two, 534 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: two thousand and three where you were sitting there without 535 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: a quarterback and every Sunday it was like, I don't 536 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: know how we're gonna win because our quarterbacks not better 537 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: than their quarterback. You do that for ten years, like 538 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: some of these franchises have, and and you're a lot 539 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: like that. You're that starving man that takes that salting 540 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: cracker and thinks it's a ritz. Like you take, you 541 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: will take whatever you can get because you have been 542 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: dealing with really really bad quarterback play, and you know 543 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: you can't win with really really bad quarterback play. I 544 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: would also like to throw in there. I feel like 545 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of hand ringing about. You know, you 546 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: pay Dak, you can't surround him with any talent. How 547 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: the talent's all already here, Like I mean, you know, 548 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: the tackles got hurt this year, that's bad luck. But 549 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: there are great players that are under contract. The running 550 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,239 Speaker 1: back is under contract. Two of the three receivers are 551 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: under contract for the foreseeable, foreseeable future. You've got an 552 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: all pro defensive end. Yeah, like the defense needs a 553 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: lot of work. That's what you have draft picks for. 554 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, when they were paying Dak 555 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: four hundred thousand dollars a year, they weren't bringing in 556 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: all this crazy talent. They were just resigning their own guys. 557 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: Like you had the cheap quarterback play and you didn't 558 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: do anything with that cap space while you could. So 559 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: where where is all this concern about not adding talent? 560 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: Like the cornerstone pieces that you need to be successful 561 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: are here, and you use the draft to fill in 562 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: the rest. But Dave, are you are you talking? Are 563 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: you kind of talking out of both sides of your 564 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,479 Speaker 1: mouth a little bit there? Because if you're saying they 565 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: already got the talent here, then that means they did 566 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: take advantage of those years to bring all that talent in. 567 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: They couldn't have built all the talent you're saying they 568 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: have right now if they didn't take advantage of those 569 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: years to get the talent, right. No, they will. They 570 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: use their cap space, Well, they use some of their 571 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: cap space to retain the guys that they had. But 572 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: this is not a team if they have talent out. 573 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: This is not a team that's been caps apped in 574 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: the last five years though, Like they have had money 575 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: that they could have spent to make the team better 576 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: in other ways and they didn't do it. And and 577 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's an organizational philosophy. That's they don't 578 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: want to they don't want to be big spenders in 579 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: free agency, and that's okay, but to act like, you know, 580 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: like people are like, oh my god, if we didn't 581 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: pay dec we'd be able to get all these guys, 582 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: Like they're not going to do that. They haven't in 583 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: almost a decade. But you said they weren't cap strapped. 584 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: That's because their quarterback was making less than I mean, 585 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm making about a million. Well, I mean, now he's 586 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: gonna now he's gonna make I mean, but there are 587 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: they made. He made thirty one million this year, and 588 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: and they weren't, you know, they were they weren't a 589 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: deep football team. They didn't have a lot of depth, 590 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: and they got a lot of injuries and stuff like that. 591 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: But I don't know, thirty one million. Now he's maybe 592 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: he's gonna make forty. That's a nine million dollars difference. 593 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: Do you know anyone that makes nine million? I know 594 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,719 Speaker 1: a few people on the other side of the building, 595 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: not really know anybody on this show make the other 596 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: side of the ball. Uh, nobody. See you're saying, you're 597 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: saying you can solve one problem by getting rid of another. 598 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: About nine million, I couldn't think. You know, well, you 599 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: know following you. You know, we're gonna get to that 600 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: in a second, because I actually do have a quote 601 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: from someone on the other side of the ball, and 602 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna tell you what he thinks about that idea 603 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: of whether you should keep him around or not. We're 604 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: gonna take our final break, we'll come back, We'll hear 605 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: from mister Jayalen Smith, and we'll do when we come 606 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: right back. 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We're also gonna pick some of 652 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: the NFL games that Nick's not excited about this weekend, 653 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: but David and I are extremely excited about. We can't 654 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: wait to see what all's gonna happen this weekend. And 655 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm just like, whatever, I don't care. Um, so let's 656 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: let's get back into this whole thing on Dak Prescott stopping. 657 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: Mike McCarty says his press confidence, he was very confident 658 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: that Prescott's contract. I was me clapping. He mentioned Garrett, 659 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: and I was clapping. Yeah, I can't see me. We're 660 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: so far off the rails, guys, I get it now. 661 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: We have thirty minutes to get Sorry, sorry, all yeah, 662 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: we got it. We got way more time than normal. 663 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: We got all the time in the world. All right, 664 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: that's sure. Okay. So so Mike McCarty says he's very 665 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: confident that Dak Prescott's contract will get settled. The question 666 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,959 Speaker 1: is simple for you, guys. Are you that confident? Amber, 667 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: We'll start with you. I'm not super confident. I mean, 668 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: based on the things that we just talked about, but 669 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: I had a question that I wanted to ask you guys, 670 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: if everything had happened the same exact way as far 671 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: as injuries on the team, except that Dak Prescott had 672 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 1: stayed healthy and still be the quarterback this past season, 673 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: how different do you think the record would have been 674 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. I think they would have won the division, 675 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: almost won. That's two wins. Yeah, and that's my point, right, Okay, 676 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: so Philadelphia on the road, Okay, I mean the would 677 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: have gotten one of the games against Washington at least, 678 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: I think maybe both Just just look at the play 679 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: where quarterback fail the play failed them Philadelphia on the 680 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: road and Pittsburgh in New York to finish the season. Yeah, 681 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: that wasn't a good day for any wasn't I think 682 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: he started playing like Dak at the end of like 683 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: running and doing those kind of things. But he Yeah, 684 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: that wasn't a good nay struggling. Yeah, three or four 685 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: more wins? So I can think of four games. Yeah, yeah, 686 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 1: So I guess my question leads to Okay, and don't 687 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: get me wrong, like I absolutely love Dak Prescott and 688 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: I think he's trending upwards despite the injury. I think 689 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: that he's a really good quarterback or getting there. But 690 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: do they really need to pay someone like Dak or 691 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: can they if they get all these other guys help 692 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: you fix their defensive issues, can they just get by 693 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: or make it? You know, not really miss much with that. 694 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: And I know Dave is gonna is hating this question already, 695 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: but it's the truth. I mean, you gotta look at 696 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: it that way as well. Go look at the playoffs, 697 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: look at the quarterbacks that are in the playoffs, and 698 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: then look at the quarterbacks that are in the playoffs 699 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 1: by next weekend, and then you answer that question, can 700 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: you get by with just a average to less than 701 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: average quarterback? I don't think you can. If you're if 702 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: you're if your goals are to be a playoff contender 703 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: or Super Bowl contender, you just look at the playoffs. 704 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: You go back to look at the last years of playoffs, 705 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: and you tell me how many times you see a 706 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: team with that kind of quarterback deep in the playoffs 707 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: unless you've got a transcendent defense. And we definitely don't 708 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: have a transcendent defense unless you're looking at it from 709 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: the other side, We're far from that, right that goes Actually, 710 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: that kind of ties into the point that I was 711 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: trying to make in the previous segment, and it's it's 712 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: very fair. I mean, the Cowboys have spent money to 713 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: keep their own players here. But again, to win the 714 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, you either need a transcendent quarterback or you 715 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: need a roster that has no deficiencies whatsoever. And like 716 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: you know, a great coach. San Francisco last year is 717 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: a perfect example. Jimmy G's not this amazing, We're great 718 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: everywhere else. How did they build that team? They did 719 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of everything. They had top five draft picks, 720 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 1: They spent big money in free agency to bring in 721 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: guys like Kwan Alexander and Richard Sherman. And have the 722 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys ever been that team? Do they want to be 723 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: that team? So? And for that matter, people love to 724 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: hey Jerry Jones for being this bad general manager who 725 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: doesn't evaluate talent the right way. And so, what do 726 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,479 Speaker 1: you think is more realistic that Dak grows into being 727 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: a quarterback that can carry you there or that the 728 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys hit on every single note that you have to 729 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: hit to have a great team without a great quarterback. 730 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: I'll take my chances with the great quarterback, and I 731 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: legitimately think the sixth best in the league right now. 732 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 1: And two or three of the guys above him are 733 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 1: closer to the end of their career. So I'm taking 734 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: my chances with Dak Prescott every time. I agree with 735 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: your premise. Dave, I don't know if I agree with 736 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: how it played out with San Francisco, though. I think 737 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: that San Francisco did what they did last year primarily 738 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: on the strength of their front seven, and even more 739 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: primarily on the strength of their front four, And to me, 740 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: that was all about the bad, the idea that they 741 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 1: were bad for so long that they were able to 742 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: stockpile some really, really great first round talent that was 743 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: along that front that gave teams fits last year, and 744 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: you're seeing the difference this year. They lost a ton 745 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: of those guys this year, either an injury order free agency, 746 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 1: and you see that team is completely different this year 747 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: than they were last year. And so that that goes 748 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 1: back to my original point though that I was getting 749 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: to when Ambery asked the question, you have to have 750 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: a defense that's just so much better, and then even 751 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: that defense, as good as it was last year, still 752 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: wasn't good enough to put it on Mahomes, who was 753 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 1: a better quarterback, a transcendent quarterback, in the Super Bowl. 754 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to have either a transcendent defense, 755 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,919 Speaker 1: I'm talking a really really great defense, or you're gonna 756 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: have to have a quarterback that can outscore the opponent. 757 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,919 Speaker 1: And I don't think there's an in between. I really don't. 758 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 1: You look at the history of the of the Super Bowl. 759 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: There's not really an in between. No, No, the in 760 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: between is team that sits there at eight and eight, 761 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: seven and nine. Here you go. That's what this team is. 762 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: Because I'll creep up to maybe a thirteen and three 763 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: season every once a while, but they don't get to 764 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. I don't want to go down this road. 765 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: But the problem is it's just that I just don't. 766 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: I don't think this team is close to having that 767 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: bass defense at all. And they just they're just bad. Really, 768 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: they don't have then don't have another part yet, or 769 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 1: they the second part and they don't have the first part. 770 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: They're either bad or they're asked, but they're not the same. 771 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,959 Speaker 1: They're not together. I don't know, didn't mean to go there, 772 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: but I feel a column coming. No, no, no, I 773 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: feel a bleep out on the on demand version. No, 774 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: I just feel like they're not. They're not a badass defense. 775 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,240 Speaker 1: And I don't know if that Dak is that elite 776 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: quarterback that's gonna just carry this team. I don't think 777 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: he's good enough for that. And I don't it's a 778 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: shot against Dak. I don't think he's good enough to 779 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: lug this this bad team around. But do you know, 780 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: but do you think that that's also because he hasn't 781 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: gotten to that point yet, Because I believe that if 782 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: you look at how his trajectory has been. Again I 783 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: say this all the time and now starting to sound 784 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: almost like a c A cliche. Yeah, but it is 785 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: very Russell Wilson life. But he is. So are you 786 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: looking at are you looking at his stats? Are you 787 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: looking at his wins? I'm looking at his play, I'm 788 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: looking at how he plays. I'm looking at this year, 789 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,479 Speaker 1: the games he played this year. That offense was on 790 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: a their trajectory was on a level where they were 791 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: heading toward like one of the best offenses in the league. 792 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: And that's in the league with those other quarterbacks that 793 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: we're talking about. The difference was they couldn't hold on 794 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: to the freaking ball and that was not on deck. 795 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 1: That was on a bunch of other guys who couldn't 796 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: hold onto the ball. Here's a stat that helps Dak. 797 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: Um he you know, I think when he started five games, Yeah, 798 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 1: Dalton started nine games. Dalton played three playoff teams, Um, 799 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 1: and so did and so did Dak. You know that 800 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: they lost to those games. But I mean, and I 801 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: actually can't think of the third playoff Oh, I can't 802 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: think of the third playoff team that Dalton played. But 803 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,720 Speaker 1: were you thinking about Dealers Baltimore, Baltimore, Washington and Baltimore. 804 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,720 Speaker 1: That's what it was to Washington Baltimore and Dad played 805 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: the Browns, the Rams and the Seahawks and a lot 806 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: more competitive games over there. Anyways, that just kind of 807 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 1: it goes to show that the yeah they were one 808 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: and four, sorry my bad, two and three, but they 809 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: played much better teams and they were in the games 810 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. But those games they lost, was it 811 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: Dak's fault. I don't think Dak was the primary blame 812 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: as to why they lost those games. I think the 813 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 1: defense felled them and I think they turned the ball 814 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: over too much, and that was not on Dak, in 815 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: my opinion, goes back to that interfseason playoff game. Against 816 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: the Packers. You know, he brought him back, but he 817 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,760 Speaker 1: also there's a reason why they were in hand twenty 818 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 1: four points. You know, there's reason why Cleveland was up. 819 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: It's not just everybody else, not just the defense. There's 820 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,439 Speaker 1: a reason why it was not the turnover. So well, 821 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: some of it's on Dak. I mean you have to 822 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: put some of it on Dak. You have to, like 823 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: they were. They didn't just lose every game for all 824 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: everybody else like that. Dak could play a little bit 825 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: better in those games and his stats were great, But 826 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it wasn't just Dak. Yeah, I get that. 827 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 1: I'm saying though, if you look at Dak and how 828 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 1: he played this year, I think in those games that 829 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 1: he lost where he started. I don't think the primary 830 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 1: reason they lost was him. I think he's way down 831 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: the pecking list. If you want to talk about it. 832 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: If this went right, that game changes, If this went right, 833 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: that game changes, I think Dak's way down that list. 834 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: I think you can get to a lot of other 835 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: players before you can get to Dak on that one. 836 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: So my point is, I just think his trajectory is 837 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 1: pointing up, and I think if you keep rolling with 838 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 1: him within another year or two, I do think this 839 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: offense can be completely and totally. Dak will be the 840 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: best thing that you do. They were on the road 841 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 1: to that this year. I think Dak by next year, 842 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 1: the year after that, I think Dak will be the 843 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: very best thing this offense does, maybe the best thing 844 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: this team does. That's not always Also, what's uh, what's 845 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: the what's what's the alternative? What's the alternative? What are 846 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: you doing if you don't want Dack? You want to 847 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: start over and build that defense? And Nick has been 848 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: talking about, now you take one of those guys that 849 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: are that are going to be available from you know, Hey, 850 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 1: I'm still still was left wanting to see Garret Gilbert. 851 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was my mind. I'm gonna lose it, 852 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: we jep. I mean, if you want to draft the guy, 853 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,800 Speaker 1: that's if you want to If you want to draft 854 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: the guy, that's fine, that's totally fine. I Mean the 855 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,399 Speaker 1: track record over the last like six years is not 856 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 1: great for every Pat Mahomes and Josh Allen. There's a 857 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of Blake Bortles, Jared Goff, Carson 858 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: wentz Uh, you know a lot of that. So in 859 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: a sure thing, by any stretch of the imagination, are 860 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: you saying you don't think that Dak is capable of 861 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: taking a team to the super Bowl, Because if you've 862 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: got a quarterback in the building that you think is 863 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: capable of taking a team to the super Bowl, you 864 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: definitely aren't going back to the well. If you got 865 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: a guy that you think is ascending in the direction 866 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: where he will be able to be able to take 867 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,879 Speaker 1: a team to the super Bowl, again, you're not going 868 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: back to the well. You're sticking with what you got. 869 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: Are you saying you don't think that that's the case 870 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott M I mean not really not the 871 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: talent that that there is. I don't think he's No, 872 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 1: I don't. I haven't seen it yet. I mean, and 873 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 1: of course he because I haven't made to the super Bowl. 874 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: I get it, and they've been they've been close. But 875 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: I'm just saying the talent around him. I think he 876 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,359 Speaker 1: does need the talent, And the problem is is that 877 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,399 Speaker 1: you're going to pay him forty billion a year. It's 878 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: hard to get those guys around him. So it's okay, though, 879 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: I mean, like there's there's only there's twenty seven, twenty 880 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,320 Speaker 1: eight teams that aren't good enough to go to the 881 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 1: super Bowl. You know, you just said he would be 882 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: the best thing they do. Romo was the best thing 883 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: the Cowboys did. It wasn't good enough. Stafford is the 884 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 1: best thing the Lions have had for years. It wasn't 885 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: good enough. Some teams, it's just not good enough. But 886 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: that's okay. That doesn't mean you can't catch lightning in 887 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: the bottle, get to the playoffs, get hot, get rolling, 888 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 1: get in there. The best team doesn't always go to 889 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. So I mean, I think I think 890 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 1: that's think they can compete. I mean, let me just 891 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: say this. I think he's good enough to get this 892 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 1: team to compete past the first round of the playoffs. 893 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: You get to that point, anything that's well, then that's 894 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 1: that's one question, right, that's my question, because honestly, I 895 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,720 Speaker 1: think if you feel like he is that caliber quarterback, 896 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: you don't go back to the way. You don't you 897 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: don't go back to the well hoping that by the way, 898 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: unless you're getting the top pick in the draft. It 899 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 1: and that's even somewhat of a of a of a gamble, 900 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: of course, but everybody else like you are really taking 901 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: a fifty fifty proposition on this thing. Why would you 902 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,240 Speaker 1: go back to the well when you find you already 903 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: got a guy who can get you at least at 904 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 1: that point. I'm not going back to the well to 905 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: answer her question, I'm not going back to the well. 906 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sign Dack and we're gonna try to make 907 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: this thing work. It's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough. 908 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,399 Speaker 1: But that's that's it's tough for all those teams. See 909 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: what happens when you know, I mean, it's it's a 910 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: tough league. Yeah, that's why go back and look at 911 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 1: what my homes did. My homes gave it. You know, 912 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 1: he got a it's a friendly deal, even though it's 913 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: fifty million years friendly, it's a friendly deal. He worked 914 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 1: with them a little bit. He worked with them. That's 915 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 1: the difference. DA's already looking at the next contract, you know, 916 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: And I think that's where some of the some of 917 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: the issues have been. So let me complicate this a 918 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: little bit more, um and ask you guys from the 919 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: standpoint of Mike McCartney said that Dak's ankle rehab is 920 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 1: right on course. My question for you, guys, is how 921 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: much are you concerned about Dak's return from this brutal 922 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 1: injury after seeing the decline of Carson Wentz, who before 923 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 1: his injury, Carson Wentz was, in my opinion, on his 924 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 1: way to being one of the very best quarterbacks in 925 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 1: the league. He has not played to that level since 926 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: that injury, and I don't know if the injury is 927 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 1: the reason why, but he certainly hasn't gotten back to 928 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: that level. Does that give you any reason to be 929 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: concerned with Dak coming off this type of horrific injury. 930 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: Let's start with you, Dave. I'm very, very concerned, and 931 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, I feel guilty saying that because obviously, you know, 932 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm I'm the Dak Homer fan club president, and that's fine. 933 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 1: But people people lie about injuries. They have every reason too. 934 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: You know, you don't you don't want to admit that 935 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: type of stuff, And you know they spent the whole 936 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 1: summer saying, lyle with reason, that type of stuff happens 937 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: all the time. So I cannot take it at face 938 00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: value that everything's hunky dory. I need I need proof, 939 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 1: and like I'm probably not gonna get it. But the 940 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys need to do everything in their power to make 941 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 1: sure that they feel confident about it. You know, he's what, 942 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 1: he's almost three months removed from surgery, so you know, 943 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 1: I would imagine you can start checking in on that, 944 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 1: seeing how it's responding, seeing if there's any damage that 945 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: you missed or that isn't healing properly. But that's between 946 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 1: now and like March, I really hope that they can 947 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,280 Speaker 1: get a handle on how they feel about it, regardless 948 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: of whether they talk about it publicly, because you know, 949 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 1: going back to Nick's point, and so I guess none 950 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: of us want to go back to the well, but 951 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: I think they need to have if they feel good 952 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 1: about it, they need to have Dak signed long term 953 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 1: before the draft because you never know next time you're 954 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: going to be in the top ten, and there's a 955 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,439 Speaker 1: lot of good quarterbacks in this draft class, so they 956 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: need to know. They got to know how they feel 957 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:55,800 Speaker 1: about it, and if they feel good, they need to 958 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 1: get him signed. And if they feel bad, then they 959 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,399 Speaker 1: can start talking about alternative options. But that's priority number one, 960 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:07,399 Speaker 1: is making sure that they're confident about his foot. Nick, Yeah, 961 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 1: what was the question, are you concerned? How sir, are 962 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,320 Speaker 1: you about about the injury and looking at what happened. 963 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 1: That's a great point with what Dave just made about 964 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 1: the draft. I mean, and that's why maybe Deck doesn't 965 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: have the leverage that you would think. You know, but 966 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 1: but it just all depends. Leverage is all how you 967 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,840 Speaker 1: how you view it. And also like if he's okay 968 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,800 Speaker 1: saying you know what if I don't play here, I 969 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 1: play in Jacksonville. And three, if he's okay, that's like 970 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 1: if if his whole thing is am I gonna get 971 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: paid by somebody? Then he has a ton of leverage. 972 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 1: You're right, absolutely right about that. And that's a tricky 973 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 1: that's another conversation too, you know what I mean. But 974 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: but second contracts are huge for all NFL players to 975 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: get it. Um, you know, fans don't want to see that. 976 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 1: They want a little bit more loyalty there. That's just 977 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 1: the way it is. That's reality that uh for that. 978 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,280 Speaker 1: But I think they're gonna make it work. Um. Carson 979 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,399 Speaker 1: Wentz is a different thing. I think right now it's 980 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: it's between the ears with him. I don't know that 981 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, But the question would be did the 982 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 1: injury contribute to what's happening between the well the city 983 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 1: also doesn't help him. I mean, that's a tough city 984 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: to play and I think it's just a lot of 985 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: things involved there. They view him as the savior. He 986 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,319 Speaker 1: certainly isn't. They had a lot of issues. I think 987 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: he's I think he's got good football in front of him. 988 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: Though he's a good player. I know he's not playing 989 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: well and I'm not going to compare him to Dak 990 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 1: because he doesn't play as well as Dak and all that, 991 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: but like I in the fourth quarter when he's when 992 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 1: they're driving, like, I don't like him with the ball, honestly, 993 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 1: I've just seen it too many times to feel like 994 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,439 Speaker 1: So I think he'll I think he'll go to another team, 995 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 1: get a fresh start, and I think he'll be a 996 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 1: good player. I actually interested to see if if the 997 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 1: rumors are true that that Indianapolis would want him where 998 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 1: he's back with Frank Reich, who was his offensive coordinator 999 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: when that year when he was in Philadelphia, and they're 1000 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 1: they're like, you know, they got Philip Rivers right now, 1001 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 1: who's older. It'd be a nice little transition to just 1002 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: put Wins right in there. Let me tell you the 1003 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: difference between Indianapolis and Philly if you need, Oh, there's 1004 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: a lot when we go to the buses. Yeah. I 1005 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 1: remember our first year in nineteen ninety nine we played Indianapolis. 1006 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 1: We're there and we got about six or seven people 1007 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,760 Speaker 1: out in the parking lot giving us that brutal thumbs 1008 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 1: down like boom, Yeah. Philly. A couple of weeks later, eggs, birds, moons. 1009 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 1: They threw birds at us. They oh that kind of bird. Yeah, 1010 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 1: come on, different Philadelphia Indianapolis A little bit different. Sorry, yeah, 1011 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 1: it is a little bit different, all right, Amber, What 1012 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: do you think? Well, As someone that absolutely freaks out 1013 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 1: about any little injury, for some reason, I don't feel 1014 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: ass concerned about his recovery. I think that he's going 1015 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,759 Speaker 1: to recover well and be able to play well. But 1016 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 1: my question, or my worry would be his running game. 1017 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 1: Is he gonna be able to run? And that's one 1018 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 1: of the things that adds value to his game is 1019 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 1: his ability to use his legs. And I don't mean 1020 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: to sound like a broken record because I mentioned the 1021 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,879 Speaker 1: red zone a lot, and that is still a big 1022 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,759 Speaker 1: area of concern for me and the Cowboys. Inability or 1023 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,320 Speaker 1: inability to find some kind of success in the red zone, 1024 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 1: And that's my biggest question. I mean, Dad has been 1025 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,719 Speaker 1: able to be a weapon, a big weapon in the 1026 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 1: red zone, and some of the times that they've been 1027 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 1: able to get in there in the end zone has 1028 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 1: been because of Dak's ability to use his legs and 1029 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: run in there. So that would be the area that 1030 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 1: concerns me, and that would be in the back of 1031 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 1: my head. Can he still run? Can the Cowboys still 1032 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,360 Speaker 1: utilize that side of the game, because I think that 1033 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 1: one of his biggest values is in his legs and 1034 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 1: his ability to run, So that would be the area 1035 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 1: of concern. But as far as recovery overall and him 1036 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 1: still being in the pocket and being able to throw 1037 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 1: the ball, well, I don't think that's going to be 1038 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 1: an issue. Yeah, I think that's a great point, Amber, 1039 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,879 Speaker 1: And I actually I actually think of it more. Will 1040 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys try to limit him from running more than 1041 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: him trying to stop himself or not being able to run. 1042 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: We heard Jerry talk several times after the injury about 1043 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 1: just how much danger you put a quarter back in 1044 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 1: when you when you use him in that way. I 1045 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 1: really do wonder if they're gonna try to take a 1046 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 1: step back with how much they decide to use him. 1047 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 1: And I think that is such a critical part of 1048 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,399 Speaker 1: his game. If you take it away from his game, 1049 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,239 Speaker 1: I don't think he's the same quarterbacks. I think they're 1050 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 1: gonna have to keep it in while trying to be 1051 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 1: smart with him and maybe teaching him how to slide 1052 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 1: a little bit more and know when the ride's over, 1053 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,839 Speaker 1: but rather than taking some of the hits that he takes. Yeah, 1054 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 1: there's no doubt though the team is better when he 1055 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 1: runs the ball down and and I think she's right. 1056 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the red zone that's the biggest difference. 1057 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 1: I mean, Dalton did okay at times. I mean he 1058 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 1: was he was what you thought he would be come 1059 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,319 Speaker 1: in there. If he had the offensive tackles, I think 1060 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 1: they would have been better, Zack Martin, he would have 1061 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 1: been a little bit better. But I think during the 1062 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 1: red zone issues, I mean, that's where Dack's value is 1063 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 1: really enhanced. So um, I hope he's still that guy 1064 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 1: that still will will run and not even think about it. 1065 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:50,920 Speaker 1: And I think he will be. I think he'll be thinking, 1066 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 1: all right, let's let's go. We already we already know 1067 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 1: he's good. Sorry. I mean he's got a quarterback, he's 1068 00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 1: got a quarterback coach that he spends the off season with. 1069 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 1: Just hire a base running coach while you're at it, 1070 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson runs all the freaking time, and he never 1071 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 1: gets hurt because he never gets hit, because he slides 1072 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,359 Speaker 1: like a baseball player, because he played baseball. So you 1073 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 1: can learn that stuff. Just go spend you know, once 1074 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 1: you're able to move around, go spend the off season 1075 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 1: with the base running coach. You're gonna say something else. 1076 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,320 Speaker 1: He slides like a baseball player. I thought it was. 1077 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: I know, that's what I say. I'm not criticized, you know, 1078 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 1: I think you should. If I'm like the Jason Committee, 1079 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 1: that that's the first thing that's going out. It's the 1080 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 1: slide out. All right, Let's let's go up to the NFL. 1081 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,240 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Jason Garrett. Reports are that Jason Garrett 1082 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 1: that the Chargers have requested an interview with Jason Garrett 1083 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 1: for their Hit Open Hit head coaching job. My question 1084 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,839 Speaker 1: for you guys is, after all the years you guys 1085 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 1: spent covering Jason Garrett, do you think Jason will be 1086 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 1: a successful head coach Head coach somewhere else. Stop it, Nick, 1087 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,279 Speaker 1: We'll start reolutely. Absolutely. I just wanted to use his 1088 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,759 Speaker 1: term been good. You know, he's he's Jason Garrett is 1089 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 1: a good is a good football coach, and he has 1090 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 1: been for a long time. And I think that he 1091 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,320 Speaker 1: will do a good job there. I think he'll have 1092 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 1: a quarterback if that's if that's the route for them, Yeah, 1093 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 1: I think I think that would be good. Um, you know, 1094 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 1: is he going to excite the fan base? No, But 1095 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 1: do they have fans? Yes, they have fans. I mean 1096 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 1: not a lie, not a ton not. I mean, they 1097 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: got some fans, all right. They don't own their city. 1098 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 1: They pissed off another city. I'm just saying that they 1099 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,919 Speaker 1: don't own the state. There's not a ton to charge 1100 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 1: your fans in whatever, but there's some doesn't matter. He's 1101 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 1: an efficient, prepared coach. They'll do a good job with 1102 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 1: a young quarterback. He's done well with Romo when he 1103 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 1: was offensive coordinating Romo's early years. He did well with 1104 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,400 Speaker 1: Dak I think you could say he did well with 1105 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, but I mean there's injuries and stuff there 1106 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: in different issues. I think he'll do well with the quarterback. 1107 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 1: If he's there, I think it'd be a good move, 1108 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 1: all right, Amber, you know what, I think that he 1109 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 1: will be able to find some kind of different success. Obviously, 1110 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 1: you got to have a good players and all that, 1111 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 1: but just as a head coach overall, I think that 1112 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:18,439 Speaker 1: him becoming an offensive an offensive coordinator over there in 1113 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,240 Speaker 1: New York kind of helped him take a step back 1114 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,920 Speaker 1: and kind of self review and evaluate himself. Honestly, I 1115 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,879 Speaker 1: was very impressed with what he did in that first 1116 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 1: encounter with the Cowboys this year, the first game we 1117 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 1: played against them. It impressed me because he did some 1118 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,799 Speaker 1: things that were unusual that we didn't see the cow 1119 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 1: and I know his role was different, but at the 1120 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,319 Speaker 1: same time, there were things that were creative. There were 1121 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,399 Speaker 1: plays that were not something that you would predict from 1122 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,239 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett. So I feel that he has been able 1123 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 1: to get out of his comfort zone a little bit 1124 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 1: and just kind of be more with up to date, 1125 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: up the time, like what's happening currently now in the NFL. 1126 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,840 Speaker 1: So I think that that helped him take a step forward. 1127 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 1: And if he does get a head coach job, I 1128 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 1: believe that he would do better than what he's done 1129 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:14,080 Speaker 1: here in the past, all right, Dave, I do think 1130 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,279 Speaker 1: I mean Jason Garrett is He's not awful obviously. I 1131 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 1: mean he was here for a decade, they made the 1132 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 1: playoffs regularly, and they were always relevant, Like they only 1133 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 1: had one legitimately awful season during the time that he 1134 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:30,200 Speaker 1: was here. But I just I think the Chargers could 1135 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 1: do better in terms of making an inspired hire, especially 1136 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,319 Speaker 1: because if I was going to hire Jason Garrett, I 1137 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,120 Speaker 1: would probably I would do it if I was a 1138 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 1: team that needed a total culture revamp, like doesn't know 1139 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,359 Speaker 1: how to win, doesn't know how to be successful, doesn't 1140 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 1: know how to be professional, like you know, the Browns 1141 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 1: before they got Baker, when they were like one in 1142 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,759 Speaker 1: thirty five, I would hire Jason Garrett to turn a 1143 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,840 Speaker 1: franchise like that around. I don't think the Chargers need that, 1144 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,399 Speaker 1: like they were twelve and four or two years ago. 1145 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,719 Speaker 1: They've got really good veteran players on that team. Joey Bosa. 1146 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what Melvin Ingram's contract status is, but 1147 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,440 Speaker 1: he's a hell of a player. Derwin James Keenan Allen, 1148 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,759 Speaker 1: and then I mean Justin Herbert is probably gonna win. 1149 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year. He's a badass. I and I 1150 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 1: just I don't know. Jason Garrett would bum me out 1151 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 1: if I was a Chargers fan because he's just gonna 1152 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 1: come in and like he's an old school guy. You're 1153 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 1: probably not gonna get the bells and whistles that you 1154 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,600 Speaker 1: want for a hot shot, young quarterback. I'm trying to 1155 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,800 Speaker 1: hire a young, energetic guy who can be the Sean 1156 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 1: Payton to my Drew Brees for the next fifteen years. 1157 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 1: Like that's ideally who I would try to hire. So 1158 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 1: I think, I mean sure, Kellen Moore is a great 1159 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,680 Speaker 1: example of what I'm talking about. It it's not gonna 1160 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 1: be him, But so you know, Jason Garrett will maybe 1161 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 1: get another shot in the NFL, and I think he 1162 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 1: could do well with it. But that would bump me 1163 00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 1: out if I was a Chargers fan, to be honest, Yeah, 1164 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 1: maxic out with you on that, Dave. I actually was 1165 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 1: thinking like a franchise like Detroit right now, I think 1166 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 1: would be the kind If I were Detroit, I would 1167 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 1: be looking at somebody like Jason Garrett, somebody I wanted 1168 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 1: to bring in. I got a team that doesn't really 1169 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 1: know who they are right now. What they're doing. You know, 1170 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 1: their quarterback probably is going to be gone, a quarterback 1171 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 1: that's been there forever, So you kind of have to 1172 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,480 Speaker 1: rebuild things. And I think that's where Jason would be 1173 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 1: at his best, in a situation where you kind of 1174 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 1: take rubbles and you kind of just start creating this 1175 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 1: base and this building block. Now, he may not ever 1176 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 1: get you to the Promised Land, but he can at 1177 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 1: least establish something for you that then you're ready to 1178 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 1: go get another coach that maybe can't get you there. 1179 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,200 Speaker 1: And by the way, there's still a possibility that he 1180 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,680 Speaker 1: actually may end up being a kind of coach that 1181 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 1: could get you to the Promised Land. He just couldn't 1182 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,640 Speaker 1: do it here. I think he's a good enough coach 1183 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,560 Speaker 1: where if the pieces all the line, I do think 1184 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 1: he could possibly do it. But I agree with you, Dave. 1185 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 1: I think it's a different kind of situation where I 1186 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 1: think he flourishes best. All right, real quick, before the 1187 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 1: end of the show, I got a round table, and 1188 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna pick all the games that are gonna happen 1189 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 1: this weekend. There are six of them. Nick's not excited, 1190 00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 1: Amber's not excited, But me and Dave we are over 1191 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:03,480 Speaker 1: the moon excited, So let's go. We're gonna pick Also, okay, 1192 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 1: my bad, you're neutral. Nick's on the other side and 1193 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,520 Speaker 1: me and Dave are sitting over here just excited. So 1194 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna pick off that watch more games than her 1195 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 1: this weekend. I'm I'm betting so. But that's also why 1196 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 1: I thought. That's also why I was saying, you were excited, 1197 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,360 Speaker 1: but you're not excited. So hey, there's a lot of 1198 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 1: things that are on my TV I don't get excited about, 1199 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 1: but they're on the TV. So that's what it's what happens. 1200 00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,600 Speaker 1: That's also you got like a wife. I'm just saying, 1201 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 1: you just will watch it and it'll be it'll be good. 1202 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:30,920 Speaker 1: Let's go. Let's let's all right, here we go. We're 1203 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 1: gonna go around. We don't have to give scores as 1204 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 1: we do with the Cowboy game. We're just gonna pick winners. 1205 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 1: Indianapolis versus Buffalo. Let's start with Nick, Buffalo, Buffalo, Amber Buffalo. 1206 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 1: All right, Dave, I'll be supremely disappointed in Buffalo if 1207 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,640 Speaker 1: they don't make the AFC title game. So I think 1208 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 1: they kicked the Colts butts honestly, yep, I agree with 1209 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 1: all you guys, Buffalo wins. That's gonna be a fun one. 1210 00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a fun one to watch. It will 1211 00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,800 Speaker 1: because Indianapolis is, in my my opinion, one of the 1212 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,800 Speaker 1: most underrated teams that are in the playoffs. So I 1213 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,800 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be interesting. It'll be a physical football, 1214 01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 1: it absolutely. Goldson sales that there's two teams that really hit, 1215 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 1: no doubt about it, no doubt about it. All right, 1216 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams versus Seattle Seahawks. Nick don't know the 1217 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 1: status of the quarterback. It sounds like he's not playing 1218 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 1: this weekend from what I heard last David, you heard 1219 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,720 Speaker 1: about that, then I'm gonna I'm gonna go Rust then, 1220 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,480 Speaker 1: because not off the top of my head, I'm sorry, 1221 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 1: you'll be a tough game. I was thinking, maybe go 1222 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 1: with that upset. I'll go with Russ. I mean rusted, 1223 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,720 Speaker 1: I say at home, but whatever, I mean, I've been there. 1224 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:35,880 Speaker 1: It's very it's not really home. But yeah, but I'll 1225 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 1: go with Russ. Okay, Amber Seahawks can't pick against Russell 1226 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,920 Speaker 1: unless they're playing against the Cowboys. So I'm gonna go 1227 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:50,480 Speaker 1: to Seattle, Dabe, you know what, Like I joke about 1228 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,320 Speaker 1: a lot how Nick kates Matt Stafford, And that's how 1229 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,640 Speaker 1: I feel about Jared Goff. Like I don't care that 1230 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,480 Speaker 1: he's been to a Super Bowl. I don't like whatever. 1231 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,600 Speaker 1: I don't think he's that good and he might not 1232 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,560 Speaker 1: even play, so I can't. Yeah, I'm not picking against Seattle. 1233 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 1: You know the interesting thing here, I actually had a 1234 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,480 Speaker 1: lot of thought about this game because I think this 1235 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 1: is the kind of game with the coach that they have. 1236 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 1: I actually think he could probably take a backup quarterback. 1237 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 1: Because again, I don't think I agree with you, Dave. 1238 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm not a big golf fan, like I think golf is. Okay, 1239 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't think he's great. I think this year they've 1240 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,280 Speaker 1: done a lot of what they've done defensively, and that 1241 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 1: defense is still going to be in tact. So it 1242 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 1: I really went back and forth on this, but at 1243 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:29,600 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I still have to go 1244 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,439 Speaker 1: back and say, he's still got to go and beat 1245 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,560 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, and I don't think they'd beat Russell Wilson. 1246 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,200 Speaker 1: So I think Seattle gets to win here, all right, 1247 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay versus Washington, Nick Washington, no doubt, Okay, are 1248 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 1: you being serious, that's serious. I think I think the 1249 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 1: teams that give him Tom Brady the problems are the 1250 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 1: ones that really get up in his face and give 1251 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 1: him a great point. And I just think that. I 1252 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 1: just think Washington will will win the game. I mean, 1253 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Tampa. I know they've won a Super Bowl 1254 01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 1: that in the past, and Tom Brady, I just think why. 1255 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,640 Speaker 1: I just feel like the teams that sneak in like 1256 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,440 Speaker 1: this seven and nine, eight and eighteen that shouldn't be there, 1257 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,880 Speaker 1: there shouldn't be they win. I've seen it happen a 1258 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,520 Speaker 1: couple of times. I think I'm gonna go Washington, all right, Amber, 1259 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:17,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to pick a playoff game against Brady, 1260 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,240 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I just have a feeling 1261 01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,760 Speaker 1: in that at Washington my actually sneak in there just 1262 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,960 Speaker 1: because it's gonna make Cowboys fans even more miserable than 1263 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 1: what they are really are. So just for the sake 1264 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 1: of that, I think it could end up playing out 1265 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 1: that way with Washington winning, just so we can feel 1266 01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 1: even worse about the twenty twenty season. All right, Amber, Okay, Dave, Hey, 1267 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:48,920 Speaker 1: I need to shave I guess not well, Okay, Age 1268 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,200 Speaker 1: first of all, like I mean, they're different matchups, Like 1269 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 1: Dallas doesn't have the pass rush to mess with Brady. 1270 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Brady would give Carved the Cowboys up. 1271 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,920 Speaker 1: But I agree with y'all. I feel silly that all 1272 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 1: three of us think that. But Brady turns into a 1273 01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 1: pumpkin when he's got pressure in his face. That front 1274 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,320 Speaker 1: is disgusting. It's gonna be like near freezing on Saturday 1275 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:12,760 Speaker 1: night in Landover. I think Washington's gonna win too. That's 1276 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,000 Speaker 1: the crazy thing is I came into the show thinking 1277 01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,280 Speaker 1: I was gonna go Tampa Bay, and then Nick made 1278 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,720 Speaker 1: that point. I was like, that's an excellent point. It's 1279 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 1: so true, like that is who Brady is. And by 1280 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,160 Speaker 1: the way, that's how this year, that same thing is 1281 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,840 Speaker 1: played out early in the season when they had their struggles. 1282 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,040 Speaker 1: This year, it's been when Brady was getting pressured before you, 1283 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,240 Speaker 1: before you make this pick. Dave has made it clear 1284 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:38,000 Speaker 1: all year he's like the whole the whole tables, So 1285 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,680 Speaker 1: the whole tables should not you're I mean against Tom Brady. 1286 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,400 Speaker 1: It all no sense. Nick, w on all of us 1287 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,240 Speaker 1: here and get and take this. Okay, all right, all right, yeah, 1288 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,840 Speaker 1: you talk, the Bucks are gonna I'm gonna go. I'm 1289 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 1: gonna go with the Bucks. You guys went with Washington, 1290 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,520 Speaker 1: I'll go with the Bucks, all right. Baltimore, Tennessee. Nick, 1291 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:07,840 Speaker 1: Who oh God, Baltimore. I guess okay, Superman, I mean 1292 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:12,080 Speaker 1: it goes, I mean goes to the locker room, number two, 1293 01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,560 Speaker 1: comes back, wins the game. I mean he's he's the 1294 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:22,600 Speaker 1: man Lamar for Lamar Amber. Um. Actually I actually wrote 1295 01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:27,160 Speaker 1: down the Ravens as well. Um. I don't know, honestly, 1296 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,640 Speaker 1: there's no reasoning behind it. I just see them. I 1297 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 1: don't know their little logo and they're little beak and thing. 1298 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,360 Speaker 1: Just like for some reason, he just calls my attention 1299 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,120 Speaker 1: and intimidates me a little bit more than the other team. 1300 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,240 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with the Ravens for absolutely no 1301 01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:46,120 Speaker 1: reason before Dave steals mygo before he steals my point. 1302 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,520 Speaker 1: The reason why is us I think that they have 1303 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,400 Speaker 1: a strong enough defense that will limit big boy in Tennessee. 1304 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he can go off, but I think Baltimore's 1305 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 1: team can be a defense that can kind of control him. Dave, 1306 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 1: I think this is the matchup of the weekend Honestly, 1307 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a hell of a lot 1308 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:08,520 Speaker 1: of fun. The Ravens have rushed for eleven hundred yards 1309 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,240 Speaker 1: in the last month of the season. You know, they 1310 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,400 Speaker 1: went for three hundred against the Cowboys. They've been running 1311 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:17,680 Speaker 1: over everybody. Tennessee is quietly not very good against the run. 1312 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 1: I think people think that they are because they're physical 1313 01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,680 Speaker 1: and Mike Rabel, but they're kind of leaky against the run. 1314 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:28,160 Speaker 1: So give me the Ravens offense against Derrick Henry trying 1315 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,360 Speaker 1: to do it all himself. All right, I think we 1316 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,360 Speaker 1: all agree on that. I'm also on the train of Baltimore. 1317 01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,640 Speaker 1: I think they get to win this weekend Chicago versus 1318 01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:44,920 Speaker 1: New Orleans, New Orleans Amber just easy, yep, all right, Dave, Okay, 1319 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,680 Speaker 1: this is I don't have the guts to pick Chicago 1320 01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:51,600 Speaker 1: because it's in the Superdome, it's indoors, but you know, 1321 01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,560 Speaker 1: the spread is ten. Everybody just assumes the Saints are 1322 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,960 Speaker 1: gonna roll. This game went to overtime in the regular season. 1323 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,600 Speaker 1: Drew Brees is not the Drew Brees of years past. 1324 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 1: Like he doesn't throw the ball as well as he 1325 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,560 Speaker 1: used to. This offense has had stretches where it's very 1326 01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,760 Speaker 1: stop and start. I think this is going to be 1327 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,720 Speaker 1: a dog fight. I'm gonna pick the Saints to win, 1328 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,640 Speaker 1: but I feel like people are writing off Chicago, Like 1329 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,640 Speaker 1: Chicago's played pretty well over the last month, and They've 1330 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,320 Speaker 1: got a nasty defense that's gonna get in Brees's face. 1331 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,080 Speaker 1: I bet I bet the Saints win by like six 1332 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 1: or less. Yeah, I will say this. I think New 1333 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 1: Orleans has a nastier defense, and I think they'll be 1334 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,640 Speaker 1: I mean, like Chicago's offense is much worse than New Orleans. 1335 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,200 Speaker 1: I think that's the difference. I think this is a 1336 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:36,960 Speaker 1: defensive game. I don't think it's a high scoring game, 1337 01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:38,960 Speaker 1: but I do think New Orleans wins this game. Bears 1338 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,960 Speaker 1: are one of the two teams in the NFL history 1339 01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,480 Speaker 1: to have a six game losing streak and still make 1340 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,440 Speaker 1: the playoffs at some point in the year. I mean, 1341 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,600 Speaker 1: that's that's turned in and around. I mean that's like 1342 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,520 Speaker 1: six games. You're thinking Draft show, Yeah, you know, but 1343 01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:56,120 Speaker 1: damn it's amazing. All right? Final game Cleveland versus Pittsburgh. 1344 01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:59,680 Speaker 1: Where do we go? Nick? I go to Pittsburgh. Cleveland 1345 01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,400 Speaker 1: I think is a mess right now? I mean, the 1346 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,800 Speaker 1: coach isn't going to be not be able to coach 1347 01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:07,080 Speaker 1: this weekend, or I think he's play caller isn't. Yeah, 1348 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,360 Speaker 1: and Cleveland, if you go back and look early in 1349 01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,360 Speaker 1: the season, I know things have been different than but 1350 01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,880 Speaker 1: Cleveland with Roland Pittsburgh stomped him. Even last week. They 1351 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,360 Speaker 1: weren't even playing a lot of their guys and it 1352 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,520 Speaker 1: was a pretty close game. I like Pittsburgh on this one, 1353 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:25,920 Speaker 1: all right. I really really really want to pick the Browns, 1354 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,480 Speaker 1: but it's just hard given their current situation and you know, 1355 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,240 Speaker 1: them not being able to really practice this week in 1356 01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,919 Speaker 1: person and all that. So uh man, I I wanted 1357 01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers to lose, but I think that this game 1358 01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a win for the Steelers, all right, Dave, 1359 01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,680 Speaker 1: I kind of think the Steelers are frauds, But I 1360 01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:50,080 Speaker 1: also kind of think the Browns are frauds. And not 1361 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,320 Speaker 1: only are they frauds, but like they're not used to 1362 01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,480 Speaker 1: the spotlight, Like, hey, good for them. I mean they 1363 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,080 Speaker 1: want eleven games obviously, like they've come so far. They 1364 01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:00,440 Speaker 1: deserve a lot of credit for that, but they're not 1365 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,720 Speaker 1: used to playing in games like this, Nick, I mean 1366 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:06,080 Speaker 1: they barely beat Pittsburgh last week with Mason Rudolphin at quarterback. 1367 01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,840 Speaker 1: They've gotten stomped by a lot of the better teams 1368 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,040 Speaker 1: they've played. They lost to the Jets a couple of 1369 01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,160 Speaker 1: weeks ago. Oh, and they're not going to have their 1370 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,280 Speaker 1: head coach. So I mean, I'm not a big believer 1371 01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,400 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, but I just I don't believe in the 1372 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,840 Speaker 1: Browns at all. Yeah. I couldn't have said it even 1373 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,360 Speaker 1: any better day. I think the exact same thing. All right, 1374 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,280 Speaker 1: so we all picked Pittsburgh as well. We'll see all 1375 01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 1: this plays out. There'll be a lot of really good 1376 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,679 Speaker 1: games this weekend. Was there any game where we differed 1377 01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:34,840 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, Washington? I picked Washington and everybody else picked 1378 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,160 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. I picked Tampa BA, everybody picked Washington. Yes, 1379 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,720 Speaker 1: all the other games were we were all all four. 1380 01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:41,640 Speaker 1: All right. That ain't a good sign, No, it's not. 1381 01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,800 Speaker 1: It's not a good for the teams that we picked against. Yes, 1382 01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,600 Speaker 1: that's not a good sign. But we'll talk about that. 1383 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,240 Speaker 1: We'll talk, we can see where we landed, and we'll 1384 01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:49,920 Speaker 1: get you ready for the games the following week. All right, 1385 01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,840 Speaker 1: we appreciate you guys. John super back next week till 1386 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,640 Speaker 1: then for Nick Even, Dave Hamble, Hellman, Ambergarcia. I am 1387 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,040 Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. This has been the Break live on Dallas 1388 01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:03,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of 1389 01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,920 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.