WEBVTT - Conversations About Mexicans and The “N” Word 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:04.320 Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.440 Sealer's podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:16.160 low classes? Malone, How do you feel about that cam 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:19.520 Jim Jones? Thank jobs? I see that Harlem hat. That's funny. 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:22.520 Just I just happen to buy it when I was 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:27.920 in New York man mates the hoodie. I've never been 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:33.640 a dip Set fan even remotely. No, no, I love 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:39.839 dip Set, and these niggas is pushing fitty. What are 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:45.120 we doing bro at fifty? I can't argue at fifty publicly? 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:50.040 No, nigga, Well is it politics all built on grown 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:51.600 people arguing class fifty? 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:54.520 Okay? Me and you get into it. We're getting to it. 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:59.120 We got it. I don't like you. I get on 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:01.639 my podcast start shitting on you. The first thing you're 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:05.039 gonna say to your boys that nigga's a bit why? 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:09.520 Because I'm out here whining and you know it, nigga. 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:16.120 Really, yes, I didn't think so. I didn't think so. 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:21.880 There's certain gangs in your area that have been online 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:25.160 arguing with each other for the longest, and most of 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:29.960 us people that are non gang related are entertained by it. 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:35.480 But at the same time, it lessens our respect for 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:36.920 the gang culture. 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:41.200 But you don't think that's more rooted than the fact 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:44.479 that it's been humanized versus kind of how you had, 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:48.880 Like you had this kind of what's that, Uh, it's 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.840 Greek mythology, Like you had this kind of Greek mythology 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:56.960 perception of it based off of like movies versus that 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:00.920 is just regular people like people from Detroit to Cleveland, right, 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:03.960 like living life culturally the same way, no different. 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.079 I mean I didn't have a great mythology view to it, 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:08.359 to be. 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:11.680 Quite honest, So how could you have respect for it? 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:11.880 Then? 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.200 What was respectable? It would be the same thing that 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:16.119 would be outside your front door, right. 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:21.640 I mean, whether it makes sense or not, you tend 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:26.720 to respect people with the the balls to live by 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:31.440 their own rules. So I mean, I may not be 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:34.079 a fan of gangs, and I'm not, but I also 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.960 see that there are some good qualities and being in 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:43.040 a gang. If the gangs were channeled differently energy wise, 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:45.600 they could be so powerful. 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.120 What do you think they should be channel That's a 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:49.800 fair question, that's a fair thought. 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:54.799 I think that, and we're talking about Mexicans in the 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:58.760 animal ward. I think that having not grown up with 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:03.079 Mexicans and having little to no interaction with the Mexican 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:06.440 computer community, I'm ignorant to that fact. However, from what 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:08.600 I've seen, what I've talked, you know, people I've talked to, 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:14.840 what I've heard is that their gangs are Mexican first 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:16.040 and then a gang. 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:21.480 You know that's not true. But you know that's not true, though, 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.239 how is it not? Because they beef and killed over 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:26.560 the same things. 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:31.320 I think that's true inside more more or less like 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:35.400 comparatively relative to like street. 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:41.560 Okay, So, like I think there's a there's a perception 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:45.600 of what's happening, then there's a reality of what's happening. 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:50.280 The perception is it's another way to put down poor 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:55.800 black people. The reality is it's pretty standard no matter 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:59.560 which you know, racial construct we're talking about. But I 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:01.840 think a lot of the respect people have for gangs 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:05.800 is because of the myth of it all. If you look, 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:10.560 you know, it's regular people, just like people from Detroit, Cleveland, Miami, 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:14.280 same exact experience. It's just we've been the benefit of 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:21.120 Hollywood branding. It's no different, Like it's not really anything special, 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.120 you know what I mean, Like not to degrade my 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.599 culture experience. But I hope, hopefully it will connect us 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:31.960 into black culture, you know, as far as ghetto culture 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:37.080 around the world, like equally to where it's like you realize, 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:40.760 it's no different than Detroit. It's no different than Minneapolis. 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:44.360 It's no different than Little Rock or Houston or Dallas. 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:47.040 It's the same thing. Like we don't fight over anything 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.640 different than anybody else in a poor circumstance around this 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:51.599 country fights over. 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:57.919 The difference is if you got a beef with a 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:03.000 Mexican gang and going to a Mexican community and decimate 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:06.000 that gang, all the rest of those gangs, whether they 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:08.400 beefing or not, they're going to beef with you first. 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:14.480 That's probably that's probably That's probably not true with us. 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.400 Here's a perfect example. When I was growing up, when 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.320 I first got put on a neighborhood. You feel me, 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.080 my gang was beefing with the Largos, which is a 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:33.880 gang in content content VIDI Largos really respect the gang, huge, 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:41.520 big numbers. My gang is right, one hundred and seventeen 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:45.560 street Watts, Right, we have a Mexican component that's only 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.599 a Mexican component because they went to prison called CV 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:52.240 one one seven when they killed one of my older homies, 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:55.279 rest in peace. This is my my homie Pluck that 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:58.400 raised me, my older moon homie Moon that raised me, 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:02.040 their little brother when he when they killed him. The Largos, 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:05.359 the one one sevens went hard at them. They never said, 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:09.360 you know what, were Mexicans. The black side of the 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.520 gang gets on their own because you guys beef Mexicans. 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:16.240 They went over there and went harder than everybody. 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.920 I'm curious to know how they were viewed by other 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.400 Mexican gangs that had nothing to do with it. 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.320 What do you mean other Mexican gangs had nothing to 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:32.480 do with it? Specifically a Mexican gang. I'm sorry, go ahead, bro, I. 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:38.680 Was gonna say. I feel like in general, factions tend 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:46.640 to align with self serving outcomes. So if largos are 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:49.680 further down, there's not a relationship there, there's not as 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.479 much of a strategic advantage there, and you have better 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:54.480 ties to these people that were proximal, and it doesn't 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:56.960 really so much concern you to have an immediate issue 0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:00.000 right next to your front door. You might go this way. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.840 You Haventennials and Serainios split off because you had a 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:07.560 difference in priorities. Now they're at odds with one another, 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.640 so you'll see splits, you'll see alignment. You see various 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:14.920 odd bedfellows that throughout history that happened either in military 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.960 and gangs, and various setups where you'd think there's not 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.280 a lot of rationale for those two to work with 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.120 one another or against one another, until you consider who 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:27.680 the third party is that drives them either together or apart. 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:40.240 So no siblings, no sentence podcasts. Fourth season coming to 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.640 an end. I got my brother Peter Boss with me. 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.920 I got my g homie, one of my wivesest homies, 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:49.640 my boy Jobs from out of Detroit. This is a 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:52.920 conversation that me and Jobs had when we first met 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:58.119 where he didn't quite understand, you know how I would 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:01.600 be okay with Mexican people from Los Angeles, some Mexican 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:06.800 people from Los Angeles using the N word, And I 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:10.200 thought today was the perfect day to have this conversation, 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:13.800 even though it doesn't drop till next Tuesday, I mean 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:18.000 or Tuesday when you hear this. But I thought it 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:24.320 was interesting because I saw an Instagram video where we 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.400 started the podcast with it, but it was a Mexican 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.400 brother and he was saying he didn't like that Mexican 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:34.000 people use the N word. He felt it was more 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:38.680 like a sellout of what's going on culturally for them. 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.720 And he referenced the fact that you didn't see black 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:50.720 people using essay and it made sense in my IG 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:55.960 group chat with my homeboy ju my homeboy Manny, they immediated, 0:08:56.120 --> 0:09:01.440 they immediately validated it. Right now, Manny and Jau both 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:03.880 are from Loan Beach. One is from the West side 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:05.640 of Loan Beach, one is from the East side of 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:10.800 Long Beach. Their relationship with Mexican people right, has been 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.880 pretty turbulent the whole time, as far as especially the 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:19.640 gang component Longos have. You know, for years been at 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:24.760 war with Rolling Twenties and Insanees, the two gangs in 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:30.000 Loan Beach and West Side Rolling Eighties, right, so like 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.600 all of the gang West Coast crips, like they've been 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:35.640 at war with all of these communities. So the way 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:40.679 they see Mexican people in Loan Beach is different than 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:45.319 we see Mexican people at Watts. Same thing with the sixties, 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:49.720 the sixties or the Jungles or a Tray's when you 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:52.720 go to the West side of south Central. They don't 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:56.160 have the same relationship with Mexican people that we do 0:09:56.240 --> 0:10:00.560 on Watts, which goes into this same conversation that I know, 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.920 we're tired of talking, you know, having and the word, 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:09.000 we're tired of using culture right where culture is a 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:13.200 very different thing depending on where you at, Like the 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.400 culture of Watts. While it is a sub set culture 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:18.959 because Watches in the city of Los Angeles, Watches a 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:22.920 neighborhood in the city of Los Angeles, the culture just 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:28.079 in that and that radius, what is it two miles peak, 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:35.679 maybe a two mile radius, pushing it right, The culture 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:42.760 there is completely different jobs than the rest of South Central. 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:50.360 It's different than even Compton. It's different than Long Beach, 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:57.840 it's different than Inglewood. It's to the point where where 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:01.160 I'm from, if we were beefing with the another Mexican gang, 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.080 the homies would help. That's what I grew up in. 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:07.320 They wouldn't say, you know what, those guys are Mexicans, 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.240 So we're not going to go to war with those guys. 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.080 They're gonna go to war with them, like they know, 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:16.440 like they anybody else. That's just the standard. That's just 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:20.240 the standard job. So but that's the culture. We grew up, 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:25.120 eating the same thing, talking the same way. I thought 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.080 it'd be interesting to have you here. When do you 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.520 think the N word became a term of endearment the 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.320 way we use it today? When did that start? 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.640 You're talking about in general amongst black people? 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:36.800 Sure? 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:42.240 Oh shit, I don't know. They had to be somewhere between. 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.800 I mean just to guess, somewhere between the fifties and sixties. 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.560 Great, right, that's that's right, that's that was funny. I 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:52.600 was sticking. I saw a video of Judge Mathis, the 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.840 older judges, like, I think his early eighties from Memphis, 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.240 and he kind of pinpointed it to around the sixties. 0:11:59.080 --> 0:11:59.440 Yeah. 0:11:59.679 --> 0:11:59.920 Right. 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:06.880 Do you know why you use the N word. 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:10.240 Because culturally is accepted as a norm amongst amongst black 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:15.880 folks as a endearment or you know, it has multiple layers, 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:20.280 we'll put it that way, but generally speaking, but around 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:24.520 not the original source I'm talking about, no folks. 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:29.000 Sure, sure, but you think that's all of Detroit? 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.240 Yeah? 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.240 And I think that's where I think we get it 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:38.800 wrong at right. It's like we keep thinking everybody black 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:44.839 in America has the same cultural experience and we don't. 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.920 There is not a neighborhood in this country. And I 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:52.040 would argue probably around the world at this point, that 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:54.800 it's predominantly black people where I can't go in there 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:55.480 and be like whatever. 0:12:56.720 --> 0:13:00.880 And I know I know a few of them where 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.640 you gotta tell me, bro, there's some here, there's some 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:08.040 in the South, there's some on the East. Everybody is 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.880 not into that word everybody black. And we had this 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:15.360 conversation the last time, right, we had this conversation the 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:22.679 last time, right that even what we lazily refer to 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:28.800 as black culture lazily, right, that we lazily it's lazy, 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:32.200 it's lazily lazy. That's not even the word lazily is 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:36.960 it lazily referred to as black culture. That's a specific 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:41.679 culture that's some black people have experienced. Even if it's 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.839 most black people, it's not all black people. Like all 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:48.960 black people in America didn't eat soul food, thanks, Right, 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.640 So when we say soul food is black culture again, 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:56.920 like I'll say it's American slave it's American slave food. 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:01.640 It's a specific you know, life for certain black people 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:05.240 in this country, just like hip hop is street urban culture, 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:11.680 it's a specific culture of some black people in this country. So, 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:16.000 you know, intellectually lazy, we just say it is black culture. 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:20.120 But the reality is there are people in this country 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:24.040 who don't eat soul food historically and don't use the 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:29.960 vernacular and the terminology we use like that. So again, 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:32.680 it's something that we've heard used our whole life, right 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.480 that you remember the first person that called you the 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:36.240 N word? 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:40.360 Oh no, you're talking about like like in a derogatory manner. 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:45.520 Yes, no, period, even as a term of endearment. No, okay, 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:50.000 I remember my dad saying, what a little nigga? And 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:58.280 I was four, But I remember what you mean. 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:01.520 What I said, it is black culture. I don't mean 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:05.800 that every single black person breathing, no, but I mean 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:10.200 that the majority of black people, especially in this country, 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:12.400 there are certain things that no matter where you go 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:14.360 in this country, if you go into a black community, 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:19.680 they're gonna know, Uh, maybe not now, but let's say 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:23.640 in the eighties, they would know a hot clone instantly. 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.720 You're gonna know that whether or not, especially whether or 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.120 not you really use one or not. You know the 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.920 smell and you know the purpose. You go anywhere in 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:36.200 this country around black people, generally speaking, or you will 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.520 have some Black people that I don't want to hear 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:40.680 that word. Don't ever say it around me. It's just 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:44.000 offensive no matter who says it. But generally speaking, you 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:47.520 say nigga, most people are accepting of that. They may 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:49.760 not be accepting of what you got on, they may 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.680 not be accepting a lot of other shit. But if 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:56.720 you be like, what's what's good, nigga, it's generally going 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.840 to be accepted. So again, so you would agree that 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:02.280 to black culture, it. 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:03.680 Would be like the same as saying like, you can 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.080 go in the same neighborhoods that God is good every 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:08.680 day you might catch a Muslim. He's not going to 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:10.120 be like, get the hell out of it, you know, 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.360 you know what I mean. He understands what it is. 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.080 So what I'm saying is you would agree it's a 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:20.880 cultural movement. Yes, So when people that grow up with 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:26.440 us their whole life, right, maybe not inside their house, 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:31.600 but soon as they come outside, right soon as now, 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:35.320 it's not everybody, just like it's not every brother, But 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.800 there are some Mexican people that grow up with us 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:43.440 their whole life, fight kill and die for us, just 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.520 like we fight and kill and die for them right, 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.640 they their home inside their home is not used, but 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:54.000 they walk outside, that's what's being used. They go to school, 0:16:54.240 --> 0:17:00.400 that's what's being used. Now, I'm not making like a 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.080 reason for everybody to use it. If you learned it 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.320 from a rap song, you probably shouldn't be using it. 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.840 But I also feel the same way as a brother. 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:13.119 I shout out to my Haitian brother PG. We was 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.760 having a conversation about hip hop. Go ahead, Pete, I'm sorry. 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:19.040 I'm not gonna say real quick. The conflict of that 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:25.680 rationale is such that now it's like, okay, the foundational 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:31.119 predicate of that term's existence is blank. And also it 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:35.399 now goes to is it a because like growing up 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.600 an Orange County around a lot of like the Mexicans, 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.720 even Polynesians, Asians in the Bay Area, Asians and Mexicans 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:45.160 outside of the city. Further, sure, you know it's perceived 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.960 by a lot of those kind of third party groups 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:52.639 as being as long as you're not white, whereas I 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:55.359 could see where in the black community you can perceive 0:17:55.400 --> 0:18:01.080 it as more so, no, this is black pro black 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:04.920 four black, not just not white. And I think that's 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:06.679 how where that intersection rests. 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:12.000 Not necessarily it should, but it's not because again I'm 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:13.160 just telling you, and that goes. 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:15.119 Back to the first part, the foundational predictor, to the 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:16.120 existence of the word in the. 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:22.760 Term facts facts. But but everybody in Los Angeles experience 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:30.560 is not this one right, So again I'm not saying 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:34.119 why jobs you should be okay with someone saying it 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:39.560 to you. The question was posed to me, Why am 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:43.280 I okay with it? And I'm telling people because my 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:47.560 homeboys from one one seven would shoot, kill, and die 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:50.040 for me, and they've been my niggas their whole life. 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:52.200 And they've been my niggas they whole life. 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:56.080 You know what's crazy, Yeah, you and your homeboys will 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:59.400 go to prison and live two totally different existences. 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.360 Sometimes it does happen a lot of times. 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:07.880 Or not, But somehow Black folks always accepting of other 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:11.439 people and giving them a special sauce. 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:13.520 That's not a special sauce. 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:15.520 It is to a lot of us. 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.360 I'm sorry if your food is that bad that that's 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:19.200 a special sauce. 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:24.320 Point zero zero zero zero zero zero. One of y'all 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:28.760 who grew up next to Mexicans, y'all have a responsibility 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:37.280 to also inform them that their acceptance is a neighborhood 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:39.840 acceptance and not a universal acceptance. 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:43.520 Are using that word, But that's the point. It's not 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:46.200 nothing to inform them. If it was that much intellect, 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:49.359 none of us would use the word. There was that much, 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:52.000 you know, if it was that much care, none of 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:55.199 us would use the word. We would all say, you 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:58.680 know what, it makes no sense to use this word, right. 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.520 But again, you asking a bunch of kids to have 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:04.800 the intellect to say to a person, Hey, you know what, 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:09.200 you my nigga, but you not they nigga. Well, we 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:12.400 didn't even look at nigga like that period growing up. 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:15.919 That was just how we talk. So again, it just 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:18.760 depends on where you at now. Again, I'm not making 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:23.040 any excuse to say why you should let a person 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:27.600 call you nigga. That's your cross to bear and how 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:31.520 you feel. How I feel about it is based on 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:34.840 I'm giving you why I have homeboys that talk this 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.720 way and why I don't give them shit for talking 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:41.200 this way because this is how we talk. Another point, 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:46.160 he says, there's no Mexican, there's no blacks that use essay. Yes, 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:51.400 there is, there's a brother on the internet that's from 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:55.880 a Percorma, a Mexican gang. He says, essay all the time. 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:59.560 My older homie Poppy from seven Ozer uses essay, all 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:02.680 the time, I got a homeboy named tom What they 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:05.680 called Tommy? I forgot they called Tommy from Largo, he uses, essay, 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:09.600 they talk like the culture that they grew up in. 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:13.400 I see that guys would say that who were black 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:16.160 in Arizona to the Nextican guys around the way all 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:16.560 the time. 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:22.320 But I'm saying, it's people that talk just like that culture, right, 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:27.160 jobs just like that culture. They were raised in, that culture. 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:31.359 They talked just like the culture that they were raised in. 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:36.399 So it's just weird that people say that these things like, 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:39.359 it's not these are not this is not a racial term. 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:41.960 We have a racial connection to the word, but it's 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:45.800 not a racial term, right, It's a it's a cultural 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:48.040 term that we grew up with our whole life. 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:51.000 Well like. 0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:57.280 And brought them like on a broader scale than that. 0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:03.119 That's to a degree a first have local introduction principle 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:11.560 versus like, there's neighbor places I've personally been firsthand where 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:14.440 I'm like, all you guys saying this every other word 0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:17.280 in your sentences, and I know for a fact that 0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:19.399 none of you have a tie to the community like 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:22.080 that at all. You just happen to live in an 0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:27.040 ecosystem that doesn't happen to have black people, and you 0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:31.080 happen to also not be white either, because I've seen 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:36.520 that plenty, like plenty plenty man. 0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:41.720 Certain niggas then gave Mexicans a pass, and a niggas 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:44.720 ain't own discipline in them the Mexicans to tell you, 0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:46.720 you might get fucked up if you say that shit 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:50.760 in x Y community, just like there are certain things. 0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:54.639 If I go into a Mexican dominated community and a 0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:57.400 Mexican homeboy has brought me into that community, what he's 0:22:57.440 --> 0:22:59.640 going to do is he's going to say, don't say this, 0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:03.080 don't do that, don't do this, because you're fuck not 0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:05.280 only you up, but me too, because I watch you 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:08.479 into this community. Black people should be held to a 0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:12.479 certain responsibility when they when they I don't care who 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:16.360 you grew up around, but if you're dealing in our culture, 0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:21.800 which it clearly is, and there's ours, but again to 0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:28.000 police that our limited all the job. 0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:32.040 When you're saying our culture, I keep telling you it's 0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:36.520 not our culture. And it's only some of our culture. 0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:40.600 I'm telling you wrong. No, no, it's our nigga is 0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:43.840 our culture black? Oh no, no, no, no, no, that's a 0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:48.440 certain population's culture. No, it's not black people and every 0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:53.600 black person allowed other every black to use it. They're 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:56.720 not communities, jobs that they're They're just people in America. 0:23:56.800 --> 0:24:03.040 It's Look, there's there's no specific aren't there are. 0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:05.359 Either they are or they aren't. So if they aren't 0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:08.640 or they are. 0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:12.600 I backed it up to the beginning when I said this, right, 0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:17.600 what we keep calling soul food as black culture, right, 0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:22.879 it's not. It's American slave culture. Every black person didn't 0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:26.040 not How is that not one and the same because 0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:28.520 they're not, because there are others. Because you're gonna have 0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:32.920 those few people. Yeah, you're gonna have that that I'll 0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:36.280 give you. But I'm saying you're gonna have white field 0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:42.040 slavers like field hands that experienced the same culture and 0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:43.639 grew up cooking the same way. 0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:49.480 The leaf of the tree is still belongs to the tree. 0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:51.600 But but but it's all the tree. 0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:55.440 I agree with that part. So what I'm saying is 0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:58.560 is that like slave food at the time, with slave food, 0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:02.639 but it evolved into soul food, which which along the 0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:04.280 way is still all our culture. 0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:07.840 But you keep saying our that's the problem. This is 0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:10.600 what I'm saying when we try to make it as 0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:14.440 if this is the experience. Again, I'm not giving jobs. 0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:17.040 I'm not saying you should let nobody call you the 0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:18.720 inn word, that you don't want to call you the 0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:23.880 in word. Let's start right there, anybody listening to this podcast. 0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:27.080 I am not giving people who you don't want to 0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:30.400 call the in word to call you the in word. 0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:34.280 But that's not what I'm doing. You are, I'm not. 0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:38.560 I'm not. I'm telling you how things work in this culture, 0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:41.200 but in this street urban. 0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:43.840 Culture, because there's a past somewhere. 0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:48.600