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Speaker 1: about that tonight. Benjamin Winegarden joins us. Who is Cash Patel?

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Speaker 1: What's going on with this spat? Was Selenski and Trump

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Speaker 2: I'm right, I'd shut down the FBI Hoover building on

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Speaker 2: day one and reopening to the next day as a

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Speaker 3: The deep State.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm so excited right now, Cash Patel,

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Speaker 1: it's official, is the new head of the FBI. Now,

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Speaker 1: before we get into the FBI and before we have

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Speaker 1: our wonderful show tonight about all kinds of things FBI, Ukraine,

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Speaker 1: all kinds of things. I want you to take a

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Speaker 1: moment and reach back. If your arms are long enough

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Speaker 1: to pat yourself on the back. You're probably sitting there thinking, well,

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Speaker 1: what did I do? I didn't do anything. Listen to me.

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Speaker 1: When Donald Trump got elected the GOP Senate talking about

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Speaker 1: the Senate here, you know that's where freedom goes to die.

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Speaker 3: The GOP Senate.

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Speaker 1: They thought they had a little moment where they thought

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Speaker 1: the swamp. Because rest assured, as we've talked about many

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Speaker 1: many times before. It's not just the communists who want

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Speaker 3: To stay just the way it is.

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Speaker 1: Establishment gopeers are just as evil and just as corrupt.

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Speaker 3: They know they have to lie during election season.

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Speaker 1: But Mitch McConnell hates you twice as much as Chuck

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Speaker 1: Schumer has ever hated you. These people don't want reform,

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Speaker 3: How long have we talked about that on the show?

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Speaker 1: Reformers people who are not going to look outward, people

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Speaker 3: Kind and try to reform it, drain the swamp.

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Speaker 1: Trump was just rolling out reformer after reformer and hag

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Speaker 1: Trump won, and we know we have to play nice

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Speaker 1: these reformers come in and change things. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: We have somebody who's going to look inward.

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Speaker 1: It's time to go after bad guys, bad guys inside

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Speaker 1: And inside the Hoover building, Well, that's where the sword

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Speaker 1: communists who would do communist things. That is, wage war

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Speaker 3: Of Democrats, and they've done.

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Speaker 1: I believe the FBI will end the United States of America,

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Speaker 1: as you know it. I do because the communists cannot

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Speaker 3: It will. That is Cash's duty and he knows it.

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Speaker 3: And the good.

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Speaker 1: News is the bad guys inside the FBI, they're afraid.

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Speaker 5: It is a place in utter disarray right now.

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Speaker 5: This is a moment of terror for these people.

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Speaker 6: It is absolutely disgraceful that they are being put through

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Speaker 1: And that's interesting. If you're in the FBI, why would

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Speaker 3: I bet, I know, I bet, I know, I bet.

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Speaker 1: The answer is, you're a disgusting communist apparachet, and you

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Speaker 1: have taken your role, your critical role at the FBI,

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Speaker 3: When you've never even met a white supremacist.

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Speaker 1: Why did they tell that lie, Well, they spent years

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Speaker 1: calling you a white supremacist nazi, white supremacist nazi.

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Speaker 3: Then you get the FBI to direct.

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Speaker 1: All of its efforts against white supremacy, and look at that,

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Speaker 3: That's why everyone knew that was the game. And you

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Speaker 8: It appears that I was retaliated against because I forded

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Speaker 9: Mister friend, you've ever been to a school board meeting?

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Speaker 10: Yes, FBI ever sent you to the parking lot of a.

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Speaker 9: School board meeting, Yes they have. And in the parking

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Speaker 8: Sent you, you were taking down information regarding people's license plates.

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Speaker 3: That's correct, But the FBI will crush you.

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Speaker 1: This government will crush you and your family if you

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Speaker 1: doing that are wrong, and we are all examples of that.

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Speaker 1: I hope Cash Mattel chooses to make those gentlemen hole.

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Speaker 1: They certainly deserve it. They've sacrificed so much for this country,

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Speaker 1: and let's talk about that. Cash Battel. I'm a fan,

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Speaker 1: Don't don't get wrong, I'm a fan. I'm thrilled about this.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing backflips. But he has a mountain to climb.

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Speaker 1: An evil secret state police agency is not just going

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Speaker 3: Their evil deeds.

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Speaker 1: God only knows how many emails have been deleted, phone

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Speaker 1: records evident. God only knows the horrible things they've been

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Speaker 1: doing as they prepare to have someone come in and

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Speaker 1: shed light on them. They know Cash Battel, he's going

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Speaker 1: to do things like, Hey, who decided to designate school

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Speaker 11: Parents who have the courage to ensure their children are

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Speaker 11: the courage of their convictions to go houses of worship

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Speaker 11: in my book, will never be domestic terrorists.

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Speaker 12: Will you find out who was involved in this policy

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Speaker 12: within the FBI, who agreed with it, who implemented it,

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Speaker 12: who encourage it? Will you find out that, mister Bettel,

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Speaker 12: Will you do an internal investigation? And will you make

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Speaker 12: And will you make clear that the FBI will never

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Speaker 11: If confirmed and pursued into your congressional request, Absolutely, Senator.

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Speaker 1: A mountain to Kline. Now, how are we going to

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Speaker 3: Cash Betel was a failure.

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Speaker 15: Having been the victim of government overreach and a weaponized

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Speaker 1: Benjamin Winegarden, Editor at Large for real clear investigations.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Ben, what can we expect?

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Speaker 16: the COVID mandate vaccine mandate, I think that alone tells

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Speaker 16: you what the Roden corruption is like. And that's before

440
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 16: we get to, of course, the targeting of faithful Catholics

441
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Speaker 16: as if they're somehow domestic terrorists, the January sixth inquisition,

442
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Speaker 16: the targeting of concerned parents against the indoctrination of their

443
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 16: kids in racial Marxism by the FBI, and on and on.

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Speaker 16: We can talk about all these examples of a bureau that,

445
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 16: to your point, was basically used as state police, as

446
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 16: secret police, and sicked on those who dared to dissent

447
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 16: from regime orthodoxy. Cash PTEL has a huge, tall task

448
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 16: to try and reverse all that.

449
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 10: The long knives are no doubt going to be out

450
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Speaker 10: for him.

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Speaker 16: But again, I'd say you trust someone who's been targeted

452
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Speaker 16: by a deep state like that more than you would

453
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 16: trust anyone else, because he hasn't been captured by these

454
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 16: entities yet. He's worked alongside them, he's worked with them,

455
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 16: and he's investigated them. It's no doubt a tall task,

456
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 16: but he is someone who has the intestinal fortitude, I think,

457
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Speaker 16: to take it on better than almost anyone trying to

458
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 16: take on that kind of behemoth.

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Speaker 1: I feel better now, Thanks Ben, I owe you for that.

460
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: I feel better now. I just breathe a sigh of relief.

461
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: I feel good. Thank you, brother, come back. So all right,

462
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: Zelenski is borderline belligerent now with Trump?

463
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Speaker 3: What happened there? What a moron?

464
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Speaker 1: What happens? Let's talk to Cernovich about that next. Before

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Speaker 1: we get to that, let's talk about getting you some

466
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: good sleep. I'm gonna sleep better just knowing cash is

467
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: in there. But still, you never know. I'm drinking coffee

468
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: as we speak. What if I'm up too late. Well,

469
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: I'll just get some dream powder from being Wonderful dream powder.

470
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: It's hot chocolate, natural hot chocolate. He's got melatonin and

471
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: things like that in it. And I knew a little coffee,

472
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 1: cup of milk. Mix it up and I sip on

473
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: it before bed. I go to sleep. I don't wake

474
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night, and when I

475
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: do wake up in the morning, I feel so good.

476
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: I want to feel like that all the time, without

477
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: all that drug crap in your body. Shotbeam dot com

478
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: slash Jesse Kelly, We'll.

479
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Speaker 17: Be back, think of it. A modestly successful comedian. President

480
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 17: Zelensky talked the United States of America into spending three

481
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Speaker 17: hundred and fifty billion dollars to go into a war

482
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 17: that basically couldn't be one. He refuses have elections. Is

483
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Speaker 17: slow in the real Ukrainian poles. I mean, how can

484
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Speaker 17: you be high with every city is being demolished a

485
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Speaker 17: dictator without elections. Zelensky better move fast or he's not

486
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 17: going to have a country left. Got to move bullfest

487
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 17: because that war is going in the wrong direction. In

488
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 17: the meantime, we're successfully negotiating an end to the war

489
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 17: with Russia. Something all admit that only Trump is going

490
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Speaker 17: to be able to do.

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Speaker 3: When the Trump.

492
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Speaker 17: Administration, we're going to be able to do it. And

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00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 17: Zelensky probably wants to. Maybe he wants to keep the

494
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Speaker 17: gravy train going. I don't know what's the problem, but

495
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Speaker 17: he hasn't been able. He's very upset that he wasn't invited.

496
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Speaker 17: He could have come if he wanted to, but that

497
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 17: he wasn't invited to Saudi Arabia. But he's been working

498
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 17: for three years, has never been even meeting so phone

499
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Speaker 17: calls to stop this war. It's a horrible thing.

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Speaker 1: Something went really cross between Zelensky and Trump. It's not

501
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,719
Speaker 1: surprising that Trump's trying to negotiate an end of the war.

502
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: It was a campaign promise. He's digging in. He's fulfilling

503
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Speaker 1: the promise. But for Trump to be as vocal as

504
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: he's been against Zelensky the past couple of days, Zelensky

505
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: really crossed them bad.

506
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: And what an idiot joining me now?

507
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: Mike Cernovich, author filmmaker, love having Mike on the show

508
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: all the time. Mike, what did Zelenski do to make

509
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: Trump mad? And how could you be that dumb when

510
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: you have no leverage to make the guy with all

511
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: the leverage angry.

512
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Speaker 18: I saw some speculation that Zelenski, during his meeting with

513
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 18: Jade Vance had his usual raggedo show. The usual swagger,

514
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 18: the usual I'm better than everyone else vibe.

515
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 9: I don't have that confirmed.

516
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 18: I haven't been told by anybody in the in the

517
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 18: White House, but wouldn't surprise me Trump's tell him definitely shifted,

518
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 18: and it shifted aggressively.

519
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 9: That wouldn't be hard.

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00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 18: It wouldn't be hard to imagine Zelensky being rude to

521
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 18: everyone because that's how he acts.

522
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike, could you maybe lay that out for me?

523
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: Because I was actually thinking about this last night. I

524
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: couldn't sleep for a little while, and I was laying

525
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: up thinking just kind of geopolitically, Why would you be

526
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: that dumb? Why why would you act that way? You

527
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: have to know, I mean, I don't know the guy's IQ.

528
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: You have to know you can't do that to Trump,

529
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: And you dang sure know you can't be offering you know,

530
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: anti Trump talking points.

531
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Speaker 3: To the television set. Anybody, my fourteen year old.

532
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: Knows you can't do that to Trump or you're gonna

533
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: make him angry and then you're gonna be in a

534
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: bad spot.

535
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: Is he dumb? What is it?

536
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 9: What happens to all people?

537
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 18: You and me, every human, is that what gets us

538
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 18: there doesn't always take us to the next level. Right,

539
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 18: that's a little mindset vibe or mindset plug. And if

540
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 18: you're Zelensky and you steamroll everybody, you treat everyone like

541
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 18: you're an A list celebrity, or rather you're treated like

542
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 18: your royalty, then why would you in your own mind

543
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 18: make that adjustment and understand that there's something going on

544
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 18: or something different with Trump now, something I do want

545
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 18: to throw into the ether. This is pure speculation, to

546
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 18: be clear, but with Tulsa Gabbard at D and I,

547
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 18: with the new Trump administration in it could be that

548
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 18: Trump got the Ukraine files. Remember that that first impeachment

549
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 18: for Trump, that sham impeachment, that the Ukrainian impeachment, the

550
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 18: fabricating impeachment against him, was the result of a phone

551
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 18: call with Celenski where Trump wanted the Barisma files. Trump

552
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 18: wanted the information, and now Trump has access to it.

553
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 18: So imagine you're Trump and you have the files. Now,

554
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 18: because you have access to all of this and you

555
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 18: read the files, how would that shift your dealings with

556
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 18: Zelensky and all of Ukraine.

557
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, as heck would I hadn't even thought about that, Okay,

558
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: speaking of all this, Roger Wicker GOP senator came out

559
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: and said this, I see so much of this stuff.

560
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 10: Do you think that Putin can be trusting in these negotiations?

561
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 16: No, Putin is a war criminal and should be in

562
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 16: jail for the rest of his life, if not executed.

563
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: Mike, I can't believe the way people talk. Now, war's end.

564
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: It's been three years. Wars end. There's a loser. It's

565
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: not annihilation, there's a negotiated piece. It's how virtually every

566
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: war ends. Why is this one treated differently?

567
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 3: What is it?

568
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 18: And what of Gonzala Lira Right? We had an American

569
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 18: who was kidnapped by the Zelensky regime when he's trying

570
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 18: to leave Ukraine Portard, deny medical care or killed. The

571
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 18: Biden State Department was almost certainly in on it. They

572
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 18: didn't advocate for him to come back. So my question,

573
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 18: and this is a litmus fest.

574
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 9: That I have.

575
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 18: For example, Nile Ferguson or however you want to say

576
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 18: his name, is talking big about Ukraine and how Nile

577
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 18: he really understands history and great men global affairs. And

578
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 18: I always do a little experiment. I always run a

579
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 18: search for gonzalah right. I always run a search. Let me,

580
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 18: let me see if you ever mentioned an American was

581
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 18: held a hostage by the Zelensky regime. Oh wait, you

582
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 18: never did. Oh interesting, Okay, but you said, you know,

583
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 18: you're a sincere actor.

584
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 9: So there.

585
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 18: The Republican is doing the same thing Nile and all

586
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 18: these old neo Kans do, all these old guilt trippers do,

587
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 18: and Jad.

588
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 9: Just totally body. I think the most important thing with

589
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 9: the change right now is that we're just not taking it.

590
00:32:59,520 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: Dude.

591
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 9: We're not speaking the emotional black meal.

592
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 18: You're not gonna say, oh, you guys want to end

593
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 18: the war, or rather we just want to end funding.

594
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 18: Oh you want to cut off funding. You guys are cowards.

595
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 18: You shut up, works, shut up. Or Putin is a

596
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 18: war criminal, Okay, great, we don't fund him, bro, That's

597
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 18: what I don't get. Zelenski's a war criminal for what

598
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 18: they did to Gonzali or an American citizen.

599
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 9: Who I'll throw win is a little quirky.

600
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 18: Maybe that's why a lot of people in Trump administration

601
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 18: haven't said much about it. He was a strange guy

602
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 18: and he went to Ukraine was attacking the regime like

603
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 18: he was an American whatever. Now, a lot of people

604
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 18: will be upset by that because they'll say, well, he's

605
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 18: an American, you should say whatever he wants. But I

606
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 18: think you and I are more of the mind that, Hey,

607
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 18: if you go to another country, you might want to

608
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 18: mind your piece and q's.

609
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 9: But even so, he should not have been.

610
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 18: Killed in a dungeon in Ukraine, and he was, and

611
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 18: nobody cares, and nobody brought that up.

612
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 9: It wasn't an international incident.

613
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 18: But if you're some druggie who brings weed into Russia,

614
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 18: oh God, stop the presses, Oh oh, what an atrocity.

615
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 18: Some druggie got arrested in Russia. We better get them out.

616
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 18: But if all you did was run your mouth in

617
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 18: Ukraine and Gonzala was taking custody when he was trying

618
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 18: to leave and kill, who cares?

619
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 9: Who cares? Right? Who cares?

620
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 3: Bro?

621
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: I can't let you go without asking you, Cash, Betel,

622
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: he has a mountain to climb, Mike, I'm excited about it.

623
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: Are the people I trust trust Cash.

624
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: So I'm all about it. I'm excited about it, but

625
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 3: it is not.

626
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: An easy task before and cleaning out a secret police

627
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: agency's ugly work, and it's dangerous work.

628
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 18: Yeah, Cash, is gonna face a lot of resistance within

629
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 18: the FBI because a troubling statistic I saw from Komy's

630
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 18: speech or mccave. I can't even keep track. They're all

631
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 18: such the same, right, carbon cutout regime apparatchecks, and apparently

632
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 18: forty percent of new hires happened under Christopher Ray rather

633
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 18: see mccave. They're all the same. It's funny. So as

634
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 18: much as the left is always talking about there's not

635
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 18: enough diversity, I can't even keep track of if Ray

636
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 18: is any different from a Cabe, is any different from Komi? Right,

637
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 18: they really are the same. Even if you follow as

638
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 18: closely as we do, you go no, actually, actually that

639
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 18: was Ray. So every agent who joined the FBI in

640
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 18: the last administration, the last regime is a STASSI member

641
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 18: or an aspiring SPASI member. I would like to see

642
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 18: mass firings, mass terminations of everybody who joined because unworks.

643
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 9: You're getting in at right.

644
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 18: It's one thing if you've been in there for fifteen years,

645
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 18: easy for us to say, hey, guys, give up your pension.

646
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 18: We're so brave, and you're so pathetic, you know, look

647
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 18: at us, how brave we are. Just give up your

648
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 18: pension up, uproot your life because you don't like the

649
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 18: Jay six Brons whatever.

650
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 9: I'm a little bit more nuanced on that. It's easy

651
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 9: to talk.

652
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 18: Big, right, But the people who wanted in on it,

653
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 18: that's the Stasi. Those people all have to go. Everybody

654
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 18: fire them all.

655
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: Man, Mike, come back soon, brother, appreciate it.

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Speaker 9: Always pleasure.

657
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Speaker 3: Oh Cuomo, you know when he got the hook.

658
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: There was a guy he does a TV show on

659
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: the first it's called I'm Right. There was a guy

660
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: who told you Andrew Cuomo will be back. I think

661
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: Andrew Cuomo is coming back. Let's talk to Ennez Stepmin

662
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: about that and other things in a moment before we

663
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: talked to Inez, that same guy also told you about

664
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Speaker 1: Pure Talk. He told you to switch your cell phone

665
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: service because Verizon hates your guts.

666
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 3: AT and T hate your guts.

667
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: All this cultural filth we've seen, we have funded it

668
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: because the corporate world has turned against us. We fund

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Speaker 1: the corporate world. They take our money and use it

670
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: against this. It's awful. It's awful. How much of the

671
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: destruction of our country we've paid for myself included. You

672
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: don't have to do that with your cell phone. Pure Talk.

673
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: They'll give you the same service, same five G network.

674
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: You'll pay less, brand new phones, keep your phone, keep

675
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: your number, brand new. Whatever you want, Pure Talk has it,

676
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: and they hire Americans.

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Speaker 3: I love that. Today's the day to.

678
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Speaker 1: Switch pure Talk dot com slash JESSETV.

679
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Speaker 3: We'll be back.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, the last thing I would ever do

681
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: is brag on my cell or draw attention to, you know,

682
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: things that I've been right about. But remember when Andrew

683
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: Cuomo got the hook for having you know, the magic

684
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: fingers as the governor and they threw him out of office.

685
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: And I told you he still has eighteen million dollars

686
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: in a campaign war chest, and he's a political animal,

687
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: and he's most definitely coming back.

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00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: Remember when I told you that.

689
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, News twelve New York's reporting the man is set

690
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: to make a run for mayor Ah the old Oracle

691
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: nailed it again. Joining me now to congratulate me and

692
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 1: talk about this is my friend in As Stepman, senior

693
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Speaker 1: policy analyst from the Independent Women's Forum, and As do

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Speaker 1: you have anything you'd like to say to me right now?

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00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 10: Oh?

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00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 19: What you mean commenting on your genius and foresight? I mean,

697
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 19: I feel like you've left nothing left to say.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, and that's all. That's all I needed to hear

699
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 1: from you. No, all right, So how does this work?

700
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: Obviously he's a political animal from a political family.

701
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Speaker 3: He's now going to be mayor. That's a bit of

702
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 3: a downgrade.

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Speaker 20: I mean it kind of it isn't.

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Speaker 19: It isn't in New York, right, don't forget the Rudy

705
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 19: Giuliani Wren for.

706
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Speaker 20: President coming out.

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Speaker 19: I mean, being the mayor of a city of nine

708
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 19: million people is not like, you know, being the mayor,

709
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 19: like a small town mayor. It's it's more people than

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Speaker 19: I think some states probably, I don't know the exact

711
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 19: number of people, for example, in Wyoming, but you know,

712
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 19: governing New York City is quite quite a big job.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, it is for those of us

714
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: who are not New Yorkers, which you are, how does

715
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: this work? What do the politics look like in New York?

716
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: Because they don't all get along. We look at a

717
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: Democrat state. We see Letitia James, we see Kathy Kolkel,

718
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: we see Eric Adams, we see all these the Alvin Braggs,

719
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: and we think, while they're all on the same team,

720
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Speaker 1: but New York is a famously competitive state where Democrats

721
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: will slip a knife between the ribs of the next

722
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: Democrat in line in a heartbeat.

723
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Speaker 3: So who's friends with who?

724
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Speaker 19: I'm not sure if anyone knows at this point, but

725
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Speaker 19: the tension between the governor and the mayor of New

726
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 19: York City is not a new phenomenon. I do want

727
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 19: to point out that both of these people, so Cuomo

728
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 19: almost certainly was taken out by an interior Democrat hit

729
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 19: to avoid, in part, questions about the decisions he made

730
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Speaker 19: about nursing homes during COVID Right, So instead there was

731
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Speaker 19: some sort of internal Democrat hit to take him out

732
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Speaker 19: for being a little too handsy and making some comments

733
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Speaker 19: in the office. I guess me too is now just

734
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 19: the weapon d jour among Democrats to take out each

735
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 19: other behind the scenes. But just like what happened with

736
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 19: Eric Adams, it really seems like a case of one

737
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 19: was like a selective me too wing and the other

738
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 19: one selective prosecution. Because I have a hard time imagining

739
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 19: that bil de Blasio wasn't accepting, you know, first first

740
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Speaker 19: class upgrades on his flight and the nice hotel rooms. Famously,

741
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 19: he was very cozy with developers in New York. So

742
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 19: like this, this level of corruption is sort of endemic,

743
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 19: not just to New York but unfortunately to many of

744
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Speaker 19: America's large blue cities. So you know, it does smack

745
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 19: a little bit of a selective prosecution. Then the fact

746
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Speaker 19: that Eric Adams was taken out, which for really ticky

747
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 19: tac kind of stuff. This wasn't like Grand Tammany Hall

748
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 19: level corruption. This was you know, upgrades and hotel rooms

749
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Speaker 19: for pushing the permitting process a little faster.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and honestly, for a New York politician, I don't

751
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Speaker 1: even think that rises to the level of crimes New Jersey.

752
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: There's stuff in goal bars underneath the bed. Get with

753
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: the program, New York. Okay, let's switch gears a little

754
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: bit here because it's kind of national. How's Donald Trump

755
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: able to kill congestion pricing in New York?

756
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Speaker 3: What happened here?

757
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Speaker 20: Okay, So there's two things involved here.

758
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 19: One is the fact that this congestion pricing is affecting

759
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 19: travel coming from New Jersey into New York.

760
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Speaker 20: That you know, we think.

761
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 19: About the Tristate area as one blob, but it is

762
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 19: in fact three separate states, and so there's interstate travel

763
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 19: involved here. The other aspect is that apparently there there's

764
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 19: a law on the books from nineteen sixteen that allows

765
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Speaker 19: the federal government to veto a toll on any road

766
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Speaker 19: that was built in part with federal funds, which is

767
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 19: virtually all roads, major highways, and so on. I'm actually

768
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 19: not one hundred percent sure about the constitutionality of that

769
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 19: law here. I would look at the case South Dakota

770
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 19: against the United States that this is when the federal

771
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 19: government tried to institute the drinking age at twenty one

772
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Speaker 19: in all states.

773
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Speaker 20: In South Dakota with a holdout.

774
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Speaker 19: And said, no, we're going to serve you know, eighteen

775
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 19: year olds beer in our bar and that's our decision.

776
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 19: And the federal government came in and said, no, you

777
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Speaker 19: have to because you know, the number of drunk drivers

778
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 19: on the road is correlated.

779
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 20: With you know, where the drinking age is.

780
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Speaker 19: And therefore we, the federal government have the right to

781
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 19: tell South Dakota what it's drinking age be if they

782
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 19: want federal highway funds. This kind of is this is

783
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 19: a closer nexus than that The Supreme Court upheld that,

784
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 19: But a lot of conservatives, myself included, think that was

785
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 19: probably a mistake.

786
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Speaker 20: This is a closer nexcess though than that.

787
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 19: Right now, you're talking about federally in part federally funded roads,

788
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 19: and a toll being laid on top of the road

789
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 19: is directly authorized by Congress, the power for the federal

790
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 19: government to say, Nope, we don't want that toll, So,

791
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 19: you know, at least on federal law, I think the

792
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 19: Trump administration is on pretty solid ground here.

793
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Speaker 20: Actually, even though it's surprising, I have the same surprise reaction.

794
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 19: I was like, how can the federal government tell university

795
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 19: where to have its toll?

796
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 20: Like what stupid tolls you can put on?

797
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 19: But apparently there is a congressionally authorized power to do this.

798
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: Okay, And as before I let you go real quick,

799
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: I have to ask you about the piece she wrote

800
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: about Trump in universities.

801
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 3: What can he do to change the rotten system we have?

802
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 19: There's so much he can do, and I think his

803
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,959
Speaker 19: administration has already working on. There really are two major

804
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 19: hammers here. One is that universities are completely dependent on

805
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 19: federal money. We're just talking about federal highway funds, right,

806
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 19: Universities much more direct recipients of the federal teath. First

807
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 19: of all, there's just there's billions of grants. They make

808
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 19: up you know, anywhere from about fifty percent of the

809
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 19: operating budget of a lot of Ivy League universities that's

810
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 19: in grants for research. Now, some of that might be

811
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 19: you know, good research that we want money going to

812
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 19: search on cancer.

813
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 20: A lot of it, as we're seeing with the.

814
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 19: DOGE spotlight on all of these government agencies, is for

815
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 19: DEI programs, is for actively pernicious you know, government bs

816
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 19: that really shouldn't be funded by the American taxpayer. So

817
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 19: that's one lever against them as all these grants which

818
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 19: DOGE is going through as we speak.

819
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 20: The second lever.

820
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 19: Is just the student loan programs, I mean, the actual

821
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 19: lifeblood of universities. And the reason they've been able to

822
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 19: raise tuition year after year well above inflation and put

823
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 19: such a squeeze on so many middle class families is

824
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 19: because the federal government underwrites the student loan program. Like

825
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 19: if you think about it, like if you went to

826
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 19: a bank and you said, I want to attend a

827
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 19: two thousand thranked you know, small university and I want

828
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 19: to study queer studies, okay, and I want a loan

829
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 19: for one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. You know, wells

830
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 19: Fargo is going to look at that application and say,

831
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 19: how do you plan to pay back one hundred and

832
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 19: fifty thousand dollars? Whereas the federal government just gives a

833
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 19: blank check, and that allows universities to keep raising the price, right,

834
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 19: because there's just this blank loan system that keeps up

835
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Speaker 19: with the price of tuition.

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Speaker 20: So in both those cases, universities are vulnerable.

837
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Speaker 19: They've been violating the Civil Rights Acts, Title six, seven,

838
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 19: and nine over and over again, blatantly, repeatedly and publicly.

839
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Speaker 19: They have just made themselves incredibly vulnerable. And from what

840
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 19: I hear, Congress and the Trump administration are looking at

841
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 19: an attack on endowments. So university is in a world

842
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 19: of hurt, potentially in the next year.

843
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Speaker 1: So yes, yes, burn it all down, Trump, Yes, thank

844
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: you so much.

845
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 3: So excited is thank you? Go back? All right?

846
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: We have light in the mood. Next, it is time

847
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: to lighten the mood. And this is a political light

848
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: in the mood. You know, there's an old saying never

849
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: to interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake. The

850
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: Democrat Party has turned into the party of radicalized freaks

851
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: that are kind of not pleasant to be around, and

852
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: so you'd probably if you have those people in.

853
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 3: Your party, want them to tone it down. Jasmine Crockett,

854
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 3: the loudmouth.

855
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: Moron congresswoman from from the Dallas area here in Texas.

856
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: She is apparently the new media darling. She's on TV

857
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: every day. Smile. This woman is writing gop ads for

858
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: the midterms every single day.

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00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 9: Do you right now?

860
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 21: Has a fifty three percent approval rating. It's higher than

861
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 21: it's ever been. Seventy percent believe that he's fulfilling his promises,

862
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 21: and forty five percent believe Democrats should be more moderate.

863
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: Do you?

864
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 21: What do you take away? I think there's a lot

865
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 21: to make of those numbers. What's your takeaway from that?

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Speaker 22: My takeaway is, just like the election, we've got to

867
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 22: do better at education. People don't understand, but you will

868
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,959
Speaker 22: understand when those hospitals in rural America start closing down

869
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 22: even more. You will understand when you don't have your

870
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 22: Social Security. You will understand when your Medicaid, your Medicare

871
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 22: goes away. You will understand as planes continue to fall

872
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 22: out of the sky. Soon you will understand why it's

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00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 22: important to maybe have somebody that isn't loud and ridiculous,

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Speaker 22: and maybe Sleepy Joe is what we wanted because we

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Speaker 22: could at least sleep at night.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, that's amen.

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Speaker 1: I encourage Democrats to continue right along that road.

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Speaker 3: You go, girl, I see them all.