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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, Opted out of Training, Canada.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis comes to you from a

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Speaker 1: virtual room filled with some heroes. Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: Oh but that's that's not all. It is drafting And

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Speaker 1: because it's draft week, you're kind of full slate of shows,

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Speaker 1: special guests. Up the butt. Weird choice of words there, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: very perfect. Yeah, but that means a lot got butt

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Speaker 1: on your mind. I guess, I guess so up the wazoo,

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Speaker 1: which is I think the same thing. Anyway, there's a

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Speaker 1: fourth on the show today and it's been too long.

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Speaker 1: Hit it riggy. It's one of them heroes with the news.

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Speaker 1: They're not that knocks y'all. Mary take us out, he repeated,

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Speaker 1: The might have the traveling I like this history is

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Speaker 1: very very rich. Yes it's Colleen whoa. And yes that

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Speaker 1: was one of Connie, one of the part one of

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Speaker 1: the participants in the makes make Connie's theme song contest

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Speaker 1: not a victor, but figured we'd bring back one of

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Speaker 1: the honorable mentions and that you know that one, as

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Speaker 1: the kids say, slaps, I don't remember that one being

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Speaker 1: so good. But I'm really into that. I like it.

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to ride around. I feel like that's

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Speaker 1: the first time we've heard that song um since Colleen

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Speaker 1: was on and was picking her quarantine house the same

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Speaker 1: show where No, don't say it, don't bring it up,

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Speaker 1: where she said the mayor of New York was like

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Speaker 1: strikingly handsome in a comment at that time that was

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Speaker 1: a popular opinion. Had I known what I know now,

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Speaker 1: I would have absolutely not put him in my quarantine house.

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Speaker 1: But we all make mistakes and we learned from them,

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Speaker 1: and I learned a lot from that day and that exercise.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry that Gregg is deeply embedded in cancel culture

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Speaker 1: and has an updated notebook for anyone who gets removed

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Speaker 1: from society, so he's on that beat. I was wondering

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Speaker 1: where you're going with that, Greg, and then I saw

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Speaker 1: Colleen's face turned sour, and I was like, Oh, he's

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Speaker 1: about to land a haymaker here. And it was the Cuomo.

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Speaker 1: It was It was it because Horby is important. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there was a lot we didn't know back

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Speaker 1: Colleen's defense. Mark also is going to change gal Gado

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Speaker 1: to a radiator to teach her a lesson at the

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Speaker 1: beginning of the pandemic as what's the problem with that?

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Speaker 1: We were all in different places. It was, it was

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Speaker 1: a tough time. I stick by that um modus about Berandi.

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Speaker 1: She's missed his draft. I mean she's got her own

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Speaker 1: podcast about the draft. Yeah, what's going over that? Tell

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Speaker 1: us about that? How did it happen? How's it going? Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's good. I Uh, That's why I haven't been on

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Speaker 1: it's weird. I've never It's a lot different than the

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Speaker 1: like doing the shows on the network, doing a podcast

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Speaker 1: and just with one other person. So, as it turns out,

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Speaker 1: work working is a lot of work. So I've been

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Speaker 1: really busy with it. But you guys can check that

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Speaker 1: out on the clock. I've talked to a bunch of

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Speaker 1: different prospects. Uh. They all have some really funny, cool

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Speaker 1: different background. Store it's been. It's been nice. It's been

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Speaker 1: a learning experience. Dan, who's your faith? Who's been one?

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Speaker 1: If we were going to check out one to start with,

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Speaker 1: where would you start? I like the the Justin Hilliard

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Speaker 1: Um juice, it's he's French Canadian. I've been having a

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Speaker 1: hard time saying his name, which is problematic because promoting

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Speaker 1: cornect the you know, correct way to pronounce his name.

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Speaker 1: But he has so many different fun acts, including one

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Speaker 1: So there's that. I'd love to see you sneaking a

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Speaker 1: will you do it with me? Yeah? Okay, well that's

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Speaker 1: my draft knowledge in a nuts Felso make sure you

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Speaker 1: check out on the clock with Connie fox Um do that.

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Speaker 1: And also, you know we have we have so many

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Speaker 1: seventy two hours away at this point, ninety six hours away?

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Speaker 1: Who's counting. Later on today's show, Land Zero Line, another

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Speaker 1: favorite of the show, draft analyst for NFL dot Com

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Speaker 1: NFL Network works down in Houston. He's gonna join us

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Speaker 1: UH to give his takes on what's gonna go down

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland, and Connie, You're gonna be in Cleveland as well.

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Speaker 1: And I always love your role at the draft because

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Speaker 1: So well, we are the in venue, the people that

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Speaker 1: But the secret to it is like with Thanksgiving dinner, Uh,

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Speaker 1: It's great, very good, very good. Well Connie. Um, we're

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Speaker 1: There's so much news that's happened. Oh Ryan here kills

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Speaker 1: they have a lot of options now and that was

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Speaker 1: their biggest problem coming into this offseason was the offensive

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Speaker 1: line there in Kansas City. I mean, from Orlando's perspective,

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Speaker 1: what if they took the four of us and stuck

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Speaker 1: us into the I T department. You're working Sundays or

431
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Speaker 1: people calling you up saying, you know, I'm having issues

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Speaker 1: with Cisco connect. It's like I jump out of a window,

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Speaker 1: so I would fight for what I believe I should

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Speaker 1: be in doing with my career too. So more power

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Speaker 1: to him, right, And he's got the Chiefs over a

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Speaker 1: barrel like Tunsil had with the Texans when he got

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Speaker 1: traded there, because they sort of have to give him

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Speaker 1: a huge but they know that right now. They know that,

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Speaker 1: but they haven't done it yet. You know, it's like

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Speaker 1: they still have to make it happen. They know that,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to give him the top of

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Speaker 1: the market contract. I mean they at Mahomes obviously signed

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Speaker 1: a half a billion dollar deal, tyreek Kill, Travis Kelsey,

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Speaker 1: Joe Tuney. As we just said, we got paid the

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Speaker 1: biggest guard money in the league. Um, Frank Clark, Honey Badger.

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Speaker 1: You would think if he plays at a level that

447
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Speaker 1: they want him to and he's a quality left tackle,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have to make some hard decisions for other

449
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Speaker 1: established guys on the roster to get this guy under

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Speaker 1: a long term deal. And that's where all that leverage

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Speaker 1: comes in. By the way, Connie, what what have you

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Speaker 1: done to honor your father? Um? I learned how to fly?

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Speaker 1: Oh what an answer? What else next? Uh? What? I

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Speaker 1: don't know what I talked about the jets for a living.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's pretty good. Um, but your dad

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Speaker 1: air traffic controller for decades and he flies himself. I

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Speaker 1: imagine he's a flight instructor. He was in the Air Force,

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Speaker 1: and so he taught me to fly. So when I

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Speaker 1: was in college my freshman year, I was going to

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Speaker 1: flight school and you know, all time college at the

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Speaker 1: same time, and I put in some good hours. So

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Speaker 1: that's what I've been doing. First girl, the first time

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Speaker 1: I met your father, he also said that he witnessed

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Speaker 1: the UFO while flying for the military, so absolutely he

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Speaker 1: did well. Plus you set up the Dad Convention. What

466
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Speaker 1: is that called Dad's Week It's the Dad's Summit, and

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Speaker 1: I'm just happy to announce it is coming back this year.

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Speaker 1: But we're doing it the weekend before Father's Day, so

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Speaker 1: everybody mark it down. All right, we go, The Dad's

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Speaker 1: Summit is coming back to so Cal. Alright, moving on,

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Speaker 1: here's a report from Ian this morning. My understanding of

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Speaker 1: the forty niners situation is they have narrowed down their

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Speaker 1: choice to too and obviously you mentioned Trevor Lawrence goes one,

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Speaker 1: Zack Wilson goes to the forty. Niners are at right

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Speaker 1: now either Alabama quarterback Mac Jones and which go to

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Speaker 1: Stage quarterback Trey Lynch, which means they are unlikely or

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Speaker 1: not to take Justin Fields at number three. Alright, So

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Speaker 1: according that's it. Justin Fields is out of the discussion

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Speaker 1: at number three for the Niners. Uh read the tea

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Speaker 1: leaves on this one. Greg. I'm into the conspiracy theory

481
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Speaker 1: that this is a bunch of hokum like um. From that,

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Speaker 1: maybe even and I'm not saying I have any information here,

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Speaker 1: but maybe even is pushed down from the highest of

484
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Speaker 1: the high at the NFL because I have heard things

485
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Speaker 1: or whispers in the past, and I think you can.

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Speaker 1: I think you can just look at the public coverage

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Speaker 1: as a fan over the last five years, whether it

488
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Speaker 1: was the Jared Goff Draft or the Baker Mayfield Draft,

489
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Speaker 1: and like how they've tried to keep as much uncertain

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Speaker 1: going into draft night as humanly possible. It's a TV

491
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Speaker 1: event that the teams have cooperated on some level with

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Speaker 1: this in this draft where one to seem like everyone

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Speaker 1: knows what they are already that, Uh, that's something's going

494
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Speaker 1: on here that doesn't smell right. I mean, it defies

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Speaker 1: credulity that like that, that that the Forts haven't decided

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Speaker 1: their pick three days before the draft. Of course they

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Speaker 1: decided their pick. Give me a break. I think they

498
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Speaker 1: decided to pick a long time ago, to give up

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Speaker 1: everything that they gave up to get to three. And

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Speaker 1: with the Robert Sale connection they have, they obviously know

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Speaker 1: exactly what's going to be available to them. So you're

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Speaker 1: telling me that they gave up all of this draft

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Speaker 1: capital to not have a certain decision. I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: there's no way. But then I text a couple of

505
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Speaker 1: people here, a couple of people there, and I'm hearing like, okay,

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Speaker 1: I think it's Mac Jones or I think it's Trey Lance.

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Speaker 1: So I have no idea. I don't understand. We still

508
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Speaker 1: don't know who it is. I'm not saying I know

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Speaker 1: it's definitely or that anyone should feel like they know

510
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Speaker 1: who it is necessarily, but it feels like, hey, what

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Speaker 1: can we report? We can can we at least cross

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Speaker 1: out justin fields? Can you let us do that at least?

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Speaker 1: And it's like okay, because it's not just our network.

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Speaker 1: It's it's the main network. I mean, it's the ESPN

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Speaker 1: two that is reporting a similar thing. So it's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: let's cross off Dustin Field. At least we can report that,

517
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Speaker 1: but we're not allowed to report anything else or we

518
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Speaker 1: don't know anything else? Is it FN two reporting like

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Speaker 1: the Jim wrote Jim Rome Show and all lower case

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Speaker 1: letters ESPN as. I mean, I think it's fair that

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Speaker 1: like they moved up to number three, perhaps weighing between

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Speaker 1: a couple of people. I mean, there are reports that

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Speaker 1: you know, the scouting staff is really into uh Lands,

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Speaker 1: but maybe you know Shanahan is not, and so there

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Speaker 1: could be some battling inside the building or at least

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Speaker 1: I guess, just discussion. But to me, like it is,

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Speaker 1: um it, it magnifies the utter absurdity of these lead

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Speaker 1: up weeks, right because we're we're studying this like the

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Speaker 1: like the fans of a show on Reddit, like what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen in the next episode that I think

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Speaker 1: the show is in the can like we don't know,

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Speaker 1: but they know, And it's just it highlights the utter

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Speaker 1: absurdity of Twitter. This week, um football, Twitter to me

534
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Speaker 1: has gone utterly mental. I mean, I just like none

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Speaker 1: of them. This is all the diners don't care what

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Speaker 1: anyone thinks. It's their prerogative, and I I don't think

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Speaker 1: that they're running around with their hair on fire wondering

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Speaker 1: what to do um on Monday morning before the draft.

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Speaker 1: In other draft speculation news, several teams, according to Tom Pellicero,

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Speaker 1: have been making calls about getting into the top ten

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Speaker 1: of next week's excuse me, this week's NFL draft, including

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Speaker 1: the Patriots Greggy, who could have their eyes on Justin

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Speaker 1: Fields if he begins to slide. Listen. In the past,

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Speaker 1: you would say that's not a Patriots move. But and

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Speaker 1: we talked about this with former Director of Pro Personnel

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Speaker 1: there Scott Pioli UM on our network show on Friday.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Patriots aren't doing very patriotsy things right now.

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Speaker 1: Look at their free agent spending. Is this the year

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Speaker 1: where they get crazy Greg and move way up and

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Speaker 1: get that QB. You gotta you gotta put in the

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Speaker 1: groundwork ahead of the week. So that makes sense to

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Speaker 1: me that a lot of teams in that In Fields,

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Speaker 1: you know, just putting my cards out there as a

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Speaker 1: patrioty and that's what I that's what I would want.

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Speaker 1: That would be the dream scenario is for them to

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Speaker 1: end up with Justin Fields. Whether they're trading up or not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not so sure about Trey Lands. And it's not

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Speaker 1: like they haven't done it before. They once they traded

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Speaker 1: up for Chandler Jones and they traded up for Don't

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Speaker 1: High Tower. It's like, think, you know, over time, if

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Speaker 1: they have a player that you would really want. I

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Speaker 1: I like it because you look at some of the

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Speaker 1: teams that are up there, like Detroit could see them

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Speaker 1: trading with them Carolina, Like you can see some organizations

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Speaker 1: that they could that they would make a deal with,

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Speaker 1: and that would that would be fun. Put I would

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Speaker 1: ask this like, I mean, if there was a scenario

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Speaker 1: where the Dolphins at number six allowed New England into

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Speaker 1: their spot to pick a quarterback, that feels like something

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00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: is rotten inside the a f C East. But number two,

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Speaker 1: if I'm the Detroit Lions and you're their new general

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Speaker 1: manager Brad Holmes, who spent the last number of years

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Speaker 1: hanging out with less Sneed in New York, and then

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Speaker 1: trade for Jared Goff, do we really believe that Brad

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Speaker 1: Holmes and less Snee didn't drink like a hundred whiskies together.

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Speaker 1: Discussing the shortcomings of Jared Goff, you think that the

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Speaker 1: Lions are sold on Jared Goff. That was a move

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Speaker 1: to help both teams, and so what do you do

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Speaker 1: they don't allow that if the Lions don't pick Fields

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Speaker 1: at number seven, if he falls to them, I'm mystified

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Speaker 1: as to what their purpose is because that feels like

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Speaker 1: the place you have to get to to get that

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Speaker 1: quarterback if you're New England. But the Lions never make

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Speaker 1: decisions that makes sense. So I think that if Justin

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Speaker 1: Fields is gonna go anywhere, I love I love the

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Speaker 1: fit in New England with Cam Newton. They're they're sort

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Speaker 1: of the same type of mobile quarterback, and it feels

588
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Speaker 1: like Bill Belichick and Josh McDaniels they finally got mobile

589
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Speaker 1: quarterback in there to try some different things. And maybe

590
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Speaker 1: they're not done yet. Maybe they're just like they're curiosity

591
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Speaker 1: now is just that we're just tapping into it and

592
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Speaker 1: who knows it's gonna happen. But yeah, if if the

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Speaker 1: Lions made decisions that actually added up, of course they

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Speaker 1: would get Justin Fields. I also think they're way more

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Speaker 1: likely to just sit there and raft Caleb Farley, or

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Speaker 1: like trade up for Jalen Waddle or something that you

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Speaker 1: didn't see coming, or just sit there and take Michael

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Speaker 1: Parsons like those seem like Patriot most I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'll say it again, the Falcons at four. If this

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Speaker 1: shakes out in the Trevor Lawrence, Zack Wilson um and

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Speaker 1: who what's the decision here? Let's let's say it's Mac.

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Speaker 1: If Trey Lands, this hugely buzzy quarterback is out there,

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Speaker 1: If Justin Fields, this guy that some people are absolutely

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Speaker 1: in love with, is out there, that feels like such

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Speaker 1: a great spot for the Falcons to completely reinvent their

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Speaker 1: roster with a trade that sets them up with assets

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Speaker 1: for days. Go ahead, trade Julio too from back more

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Speaker 1: assets and pade him to the Patriots. Send that boat

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Speaker 1: that Belichick's got nine rings or whatever? What was the

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Speaker 1: Belichick Julio Jones draft connection years ago? There was sometimes

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Speaker 1: did he bury him in a draft report or love him?

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Speaker 1: I couldn't remember. There's something, wasn't there great? There there

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Speaker 1: was that they I think they were interested in trading up,

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Speaker 1: but then they also I'm forgetting the receiver. Whoever the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs took that year that the Patriots had ranked higher

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Speaker 1: than Julio Jones was stupid. Well didn't they give it

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Speaker 1: too for most a new I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if they're the best at evaluating wide receivers. No, they've

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Speaker 1: been terrible. Don't bring that up on the show. Greg

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Speaker 1: is still processing the most in the second round pick trade.

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Speaker 1: Uh uh? Quickly, Panthers GM Scott Fitterer. So the team

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Speaker 1: is gonna wait until after the draft to make a

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Speaker 1: decision on Sam Donald's fifth year option. This has been

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Speaker 1: kind of murky. It was out there right after the

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Speaker 1: trade that they were going to pick it up, and

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it wasn't happening. Um, once again,

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Speaker 1: I'm Sam donaldn't And Sam has a close place in

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Speaker 1: my heart, and I hope the best for him. He

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Speaker 1: twisted in the wind for months before the Jets traded him.

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Speaker 1: Now he's right back there again, at least for a

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Speaker 1: few more days. And he's just hoping the Panthers don't

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Speaker 1: take a quarterback high in this draft. That's gonna put

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Speaker 1: him in an even worse spot than he was with

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Speaker 1: the Jets. It feels very Josh roseny Um just this

635
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Speaker 1: experience that Sam Donald's going through. Obviously they're they're different,

636
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Speaker 1: but the Panthers they're keeping their options open. I feel

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Speaker 1: like they're on the prowl right now. Sam Donald he's

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00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: at home just waiting for them to come back. He's

639
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Speaker 1: just maybe making some dinner, while the Panthers they're out

640
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: at the bar checking out what's available, what the what

641
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: else could be flying around and they're gonna wait to

642
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Speaker 1: see if a quarterback falls to them at eight right.

643
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: I mean, Donald is their fallback option, and he it

644
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: was not their plan for the off season. I mean,

645
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Speaker 1: do we think that like David Tepper is sitting around

646
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: with like feet up on the desk smoking a cigar. No,

647
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: he's I rate. I think they wanted something else. And

648
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: so it tells me that they're still maybe aggressively looking

649
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: for to be one of those teams that moves up

650
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: to get justin Fields or someone else and solves this issue.

651
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Speaker 1: I mean is if the narrative around David Tepper is

652
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: indeed true, you've got a feeling he might have something

653
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Speaker 1: up as sleeve here to make the big splash that

654
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: he's been trying to make all offseason and hasn't been

655
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: able to. And Sam Donald, God love him, doesn't qualify

656
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: as a huge splash at QB right now. Finally, Shawn Lee, goodbye,

657
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: young man. He walks off into the sunset at thirty

658
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: four years old. Remember of the graveyards this year. But

659
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,479
Speaker 1: in terms of real football, he announced his retirement. Five

660
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: tackles Shy of one thousand for the Dallas Cowboys was

661
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: really a lynch pin for them Colleen for many years,

662
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 1: always dealing with hamstring issues and all sorts of injury stuff.

663
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: But when he was on the field, there was a

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Speaker 1: period there where he was one of the best. It's

665
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: injuries were such a massive part and are such a

666
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: massive part of his legacy. It's I almost forget how

667
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 1: effective he was when he was healthy because he dealt

668
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: with so many different things a c L you're right,

669
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Speaker 1: always a hamstring risk, sports hernia, a toe and neck,

670
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: a knee, I mean, you name it. I feel like

671
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: he had it. But he was so effective for them.

672
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: He led the Cowboys and tackles in sixteen seventeen. And

673
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: now you have Tyron Crawford who also retired. So those

674
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: are two really huge leadership role guys. That are now

675
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: gone from the team. So DeMarcus Lawrence is the longest

676
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: tenured Cowboy now and Randy Gregory is the second. So

677
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: I think you and you haven't gotten a lot of

678
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Speaker 1: service time, so I don't know if that counts. He's

679
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 1: been like put it into perspective. Yeah, that's crazy, Sean Lee.

680
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Speaker 1: I always think of West when I think of Sean

681
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Speaker 1: Lee because West was so early on how good he was,

682
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: and Sean Lee was the classic like West guy where

683
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: he would say you can tell who's watching the games

684
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: and who's not um when Sean Lee was a young

685
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: player and was so explosive because a lot of times,

686
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: like the announcers would be like, you know, this guy's

687
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: a hard working guy's really on top of things. It's like, no,

688
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: Sean Lee was like one of the most explosive athletes

689
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: to play linebacker in the last fifteen years. Like he

690
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: was a demon on the field, especially early. Like it

691
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: wasn't that like try hard white guy cliche or whatever,

692
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: like you weren't watching and what West was on him early? Yeah, absolutely,

693
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: all right, that's what's happening in the news. All right,

694
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Speaker 1: let's get right to it. As promised, one of our favorites.

695
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Speaker 1: A draft wizard, I call him. I call him draft Wizard.

696
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: And if it's trademark yet, maybe it's time that this

697
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Speaker 1: man looks into it. Lands Eero Line, the Man, the myth,

698
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: the legend. Welcome back to the Around the NFL podcast. Man,

699
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Speaker 1: what's going on, draft Wizard? I'm gonna I'm gonna look

700
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: into that and see if anyone's got that trademark. Wait.

701
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: Lance is holding a microphone right now like he's doing

702
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: stand up at the improv. I like it. Still a

703
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: little crowd work here. Who's hey, Look I see Cefler

704
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: over there. Man, It's great to see you again. Uh,

705
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: everything's still good with your mom? See that shut. I

706
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: got to ask your mom. Shirt, Go ask your mom

707
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: because it could be like I don't know, why don't

708
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: you go ask your mom because it could be like

709
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: a rim or. It's also a real dad thing, like

710
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, go ask your mom. Yeah, what in

711
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 1: the home? Lance? We have still a theme here because

712
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: we know you're doing a ton of media and NFL

713
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: dot com and network stuff right now. Um um, so

714
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: you're getting inundated. I'm sure with quarterback talk, but we're

715
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: this whole segment for the draft. We're not gonna talk

716
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: about any quarterbacks. How about that? Is that? Is that

717
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: work for you? I'm fine with that. That's that's I'm

718
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: always all guided when I don't have to do quarterback talk. Yeah,

719
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: guard plays to ensive. That's like if my dad was

720
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: a chef. All I want to talk about me some

721
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: plos and in different types of knife skills. No, no,

722
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to, but no online talk. I like

723
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: talking online talk, but uh, the guard play, I can

724
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: do it if I'm okay, and I'm kidding about the

725
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: guy you think you're I'm not even humansf card talk,

726
00:37:55,239 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: it's you know, cards are humans. Humans. Let's start here. Lance.

727
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: It feels like it's like a very offensive heavy draft,

728
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: especially early on. Uh you've mentioned the trenches by the way,

729
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, I I read it's not that's not a

730
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: great year for defensive tackle. What is there like a

731
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: superstar defensive player coming out of this draft in your mind?

732
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: I actually I think there's a few. Um, I think

733
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: Pat Surtants and me is the best defensive player in

734
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: this draft, followed very closely by Michael Parsons and then

735
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: the guy that I'm a little bit higher on than

736
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: everyone else seems to be in That includes NFL teams.

737
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: I talked to is Jeremiah Wooster Karama from Notre Dame.

738
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: I think he's got tremendous, uh, tremendous upside and potential.

739
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: I remember watching tape of from South Carolina State watching

740
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard, and Darius had filled up like every stat

741
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: you could imagine, sacks, interceptions, tackles for loss, tackles, pressures,

742
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: um fumbles recovered like any any statue ad. He was

743
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: filling up the statu sheet. And uh, while Caramosa, I

744
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: mean while Umoso Caramoa is not that same guy from

745
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: a production standpoint, I see a lot of similarities, at

746
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: least with the explosiveness the physicality. Think of Woosu Caramas

747
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: more physical than Darius Leonard was coming out. Um I

748
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: don't think he has the instincts that that Darius Leonard had,

749
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: But I don't care that these two hundred and twenty

750
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: two pounds or whatever, that's irrelevant. I know that you know, Frankly,

751
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: I know for a fact that that Darius has played

752
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: in a two eighteen range. Two twenty pound range means

753
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: that's wide receiver size and he's still stacking up the numbers.

754
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: So I think Michael Parsons, you know, from a standpoint

755
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: of big, fast, physical, he's got all of that that

756
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: you could possibly want. Curtains to me, is is the

757
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: top five or six player in this draft of very

758
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: clean cornerback and then uh a Woosu Carama. I think

759
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: those three guys have the best chance at becoming superstars

760
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: out of this draft from the defensive side of the ball.

761
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: I I like the themes in this draft. There's a

762
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: couple like how there's no d dresser that like, everyone's

763
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: got their addresser that they like. And the other is

764
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: just like that the receivers are small of all the

765
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: like slot receivers, especially that there at least their size

766
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: profiles to playing inside a little bit more, and that

767
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,479
Speaker 1: all seemed to be projected anywhere from like late one,

768
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: you know, through the second or third round. Do you

769
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: have any of these like small receivers that gets lands

770
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: eer line up and excited? Uh? With that question, it's

771
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: Alijah More. I mean when I watched Alijah More this

772
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 1: year on tape. Every every year there will be ten

773
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: to twelve and some of these guys, like I like

774
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: a cornerback out of Michigan State named Shakur Brown. Where

775
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed watching his tape. He'll get drafted fourth

776
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: at the earliest, maybe fifth. But that doesn't mean that

777
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 1: they don't you know, I don't think they'll be players,

778
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: or that I didn't enjoy watching her tape. There's a

779
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: lot of times there's things that will prevent them from

780
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: being drafted earlier. UM a lot Jamore. When I watched him,

781
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, he checks the box for speed.

782
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: He's an outstanding route runner, UM extraordinarily tough. It really

783
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: doesn't matter who's a lot of times you'll see a

784
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: lot of wide receivers have the focus drops when they

785
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: know pressure is coming uh into their catch space. It's

786
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: you see a lot of focus drops. Not Elijah More.

787
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: He only gets better when the pressures coming. You wanna

788
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: you wanna light him up, not a problem. He's gonna

789
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 1: catch it through the contact. So when I finished watching him,

790
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: and this is a big comp but when I finished

791
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: watching him, I just said, you know, I just watched

792
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. I mean, from a footwork standpoint, from the

793
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: ability to get open uh, Antonio Brown is a four

794
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: or five forty guy. This. Elijah Moore is a four

795
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: or four forty guy, but you couldn't stick Antonio Brown

796
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: and his pride. You just weren't gonna check him. He

797
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: was too good with his feet. And when I see

798
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: Elijah Moore, I see the same type of players, So

799
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: he would be a guy that gets me excited. I

800
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: think Darius Tony from Florida is another one who the

801
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: undersized cornerbacks that you know it's you see a lot

802
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: to really like about him. And then there's another one

803
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: who who killed players at the UH at the Senior Bowl,

804
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: and that's Kay Johnson from South Dakota State on take

805
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: No one could guard him in in the in the

806
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: regular season from two thousand uh nineteen. I don't think

807
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: they played this year, so yeah, well they didn't play

808
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: this year, so two thousand nineteen, no one could guard him.

809
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: He gets out the Senior Bowl, nobody could guard him.

810
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: So I like guys that people can't guard. That's one

811
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: of the things that I kind of like about wide receivers.

812
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: When you can't guard them is a favorable thing for

813
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: me at least what I like the Nakil Harry We'll

814
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 1: just throw it up there. He's so big and strong,

815
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: he'll make plays. I still like guys that get open.

816
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: Those guys tend to play for We already brought up

817
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: most of new on today's show Greg Can't Harry conversation

818
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: on top of it, I'd say, I'd say k Johnson

819
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: UH is another one of those smaller UH slot corners

820
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: that I really like, and he could be there in

821
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: the war three, even fifth sixth round. I mean, you're

822
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: gonna get him in day three later and I think

823
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: you'll be an NFL UH starting slot at some point.

824
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: You spend so much time writing all of these draft profiles,

825
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: and I can't even imagine how many hours you pour

826
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,479
Speaker 1: into it. So you know these guys through and through

827
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: and you watch all their tape. Who is a guy

828
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: that you think will be a surprise Night one selection?

829
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: M Well, okay, so these are these are predictions based

830
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 1: on things I'm hearing, Okay, So I would say Tyson Campbell,

831
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: a cornerback from Georgia. I think it's gonna end up

832
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: in in the first round of the mock. I had

833
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: him in the first round of my my first mock,

834
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: and it's funny I go back and look at my

835
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: mock one point if you go back and look at

836
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: that these This is before I'm hearing anyone say anything

837
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Speaker 1: the other media members. And it's probably my most pure

838
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: mock and a lot of times my very first moodcast

839
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: has some very interesting things in there where I have

840
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm just relying on what I'm seeing and it ends

841
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: up being more accurate at least at certain positions for

842
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: certain players. Kind of stuff like that's the stuff you

843
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: put it right into the system. It's going straight to

844
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: your head at one point, exactly, don't I don't need

845
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 1: this stepped on three point oh four stuff. Tight tight, tight,

846
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Speaker 1: tight tight. So that's the way you That's the way

847
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Speaker 1: I do it for my mock draft. And so I

848
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Speaker 1: had Greg Newsom in there, I had Tyson Campbell, I

849
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: had Elijah More before the other mock drafts had it,

850
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: because it just made sense to me. I mean, I

851
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: wrote these guys up and these are the kind of

852
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: players that go in the first round. And so, um,

853
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: I think Tyson Campbell will find his way in there. Um,

854
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 1: you know, Colleen. As far as other players who are

855
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: going to potentially surprise, there could be others. Um, I'll

856
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: throw it just a couple of names that might be

857
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: kind of crazy, but Peyton Turner out of U University

858
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: of Houston, UM, Milton Williams out of Louisiana Tech. If

859
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: Christian Barmore falls out of the first which I think

860
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: is possible, and it is a bad and as Dan mentioned,

861
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: is that bad add defensive tackle draft. So at some

862
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: point somebody's gonna say, look, these are the best defensive tackles.

863
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: We gotta get this guy before anyone else does, or

864
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: that you know, you can close that category down. Um,

865
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: that could cause somebody to reach up there, especially if

866
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: Barbore doesn't end up going in the first round, the

867
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: defensive tackle from from Alabama. One strategy, if you're watching

868
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: on YouTube, that I employed during these types of things

869
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: is when you mentioned a player that I've never heard of,

870
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: I just sort of nod like, oh, yeah, of course,

871
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: like that guy absolutely. Um, but I have a little

872
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: bit like Silton from law Tech, Yeah for you, um,

873
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: number one. Because it's such a weird draft, and like

874
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: we're already hearing from like Adam Schefter that teams are, um,

875
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, obviously a little peaked with the lack of

876
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: rock solid medical information on players and that stuff even

877
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: now is still trickling, and so one, do you think

878
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: that over the next couple of days we might get

879
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,479
Speaker 1: some explosive medical reports that take guys and just throw

880
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: them deep into it, into hyper space. And then part two,

881
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: what like how hammered to you get the minute the

882
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: draft ins like you're obviously entering into a wide birth

883
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: of like you don't need to chime in on anything.

884
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 1: So so yeah, so the other day, um, just after

885
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: total axis, I went and got hammered with tiki drinks

886
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: at a tiki bar here because it's socially distanced. But

887
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: I don't need to be that far away from one

888
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: of the giant skulls with that ten different types of

889
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: RUMs in it. So if I just don't you don't

890
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: share straws like the tiki thing where it's like ten

891
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: straws in it, well me and my wife, yeah different. Yeah,

892
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: And if you have a couple that you trust, like

893
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: we've got our friends from Belize who came down. Shout

894
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: out to Kelly and McCool from the Phoenix, shout out

895
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: to them. Um, they're the ones that more most likely

896
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: to go get a little torn down with. So if

897
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: I do that just after a basic t a you

898
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: can imagine what happens after a draft. Now. Previously, you know,

899
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: back in the good old days, I was always flying

900
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: out to California. So I was in l a. And

901
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: so I might, you know, go do something with our

902
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: buddy Markistock. I might go do something with uh my

903
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: friend Eric Laydon who's an actor there, and uh and

904
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: and but not to the point that I, you know,

905
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: after the drafts over. I mean, I'm I have to

906
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: make a flight and get home at some point during

907
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: that next day usually and so uh so it was

908
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: it's a little tough. So no, I I pick out

909
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: a day and then we'll, uh, we'll just see what

910
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: happens on that day. When at some point afterwards, when

911
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: do you start your pro writing your profiles for the

912
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: next year. Um, it kind of starts in the summer.

913
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 1: I usually do a summer kind of Um it depends

914
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: on So when NFL dot Com would ask me to

915
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: write my give us ten players to watch at every position,

916
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: well that was really a head start for me where

917
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm already watching. Um. I had a really high grade

918
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: on Justin Herbert after his sophomore year when I watched

919
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: him in the summer. Then I didn't like Naji Harris

920
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: as much this this year when I watched him in

921
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: the summer and then the verse and I saw this

922
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: year was like, wow, this is not the same guy

923
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: I saw last year when I watched him from two

924
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. All right, then I saw in the summer

925
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 1: from his two thousand nineteen tapes. So I'll start watching

926
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 1: Colleen in the in the summer. But I'm not writing

927
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 1: the profile. I'm just I'm kind of, you know, acclimating

928
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: myself to their strengths and weaknesses because I love how

929
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: people reach out to me on my in my direct messages.

930
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 1: I left him open, which is probably a mistake since

931
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: I get so many sweet huddle videos of high schoolers.

932
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: Now like this is my son. You you just see

933
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: him to the next big wide receiver and yeah, like

934
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: this this guy's doing be an incredible wide receiver out

935
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: of you know, Maine. And I'm just thinking, I don't

936
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: need main high school receivers in my ever ever never.

937
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: I don't even want him from college main college, but

938
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: um so I will. Yeah, it's it's no offense, but

939
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: you know, wait until you get to the senior. But

940
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: it's like, I guess we had to get rid of

941
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: one or two like a handful of states on that list.

942
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: The main assassination no Rhode Island. I probably you just

943
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: have to do it, you know at the senior ball.

944
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: I just need to see you do it against better

945
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 1: competition rather than your huddle tape from high school. But

946
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: um so I do have people ask all the time,

947
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 1: Hey Lands, I know you're busy with draft, with riding

948
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 1: up five hundred profiles. I just wanted to know who

949
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: you what you thought about this wide receiver from the

950
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: draft from s m U Like I don't have time

951
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: I can. If you're not in this year's draft, you

952
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: don't exist to me. I don't care until the summer

953
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: and then you exist again. And it's not personal. But

954
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: I just don't have the time to be worrying about

955
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: who's in next year's draft dedication through all this stuff,

956
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: you know, Lance, can I going back to red flags

957
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: and medical stuff. There's one prospect that I'm completely obsessed

958
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: with now and for the only reason that we do

959
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: that silly mock draft special for NFL Network, and I

960
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: was tasked with the overall pick, the Jet in person

961
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: round pick, and um I selected uh with much trepidation.

962
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: Landon Dickerson the Alabama Center. I feel like it's down.

963
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: I love I love land Let me, let me finish,

964
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: let me up here. So Landon Dickerson he seems to

965
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: me the guy that has the biggest ratio where he

966
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: could go in this draft. Right I'm seeing him going

967
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: to the bottom of the first round a lot of

968
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: mock drafts, and then you see some red flags because

969
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: he's had so many injuries that he could be going

970
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: in the middle rounds Uh, huge boom er bus guy,

971
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: maybe the biggest in the draft, right, I think that cool.

972
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: I think Gregory Rousseau might be. I don't talk to

973
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: a team who likes him in the first like nobody

974
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: have talked to me like him in the first. Some

975
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: teams have third round grades on him. But he's big,

976
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: he's a long guy, he plays the positions. There's just

977
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: not a lot of tape, only one year tape on him.

978
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: So he's one of those guys that could end up

979
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: in the first or could fall way back into maybe

980
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: the the middle to late second at the latest. I

981
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: think the the guys you did hit on something though.

982
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: How teams perceive injuries creates the biggest boom bust factor,

983
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: well not boom bust, but the biggest chasm between high

984
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: end and low end UM picks. I've I've heard enough

985
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: from enough people who say Landon Dickerson and I already

986
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: know about his injury past, just you know, studying this.

987
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: But I think the medicals are such that he is

988
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: not going to go in the first round. So I

989
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: liked him in the first round of two of my

990
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: mock drafts. I think he's a good football player. He's

991
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: the type of guy that you want your locker room um.

992
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: Everything about him. I love for his attitude and the

993
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: way he's going to change the culture. But it's just

994
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: the medicals are just tough to get around. So I

995
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: don't think he goes in the first I think he

996
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: falls out. And if you want a guy who's gonna

997
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: I don't. So I don't think the high end is

998
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: in the first I think when you're talking about a

999
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: guy who could be you know, upper lower, you start

1000
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: talking about injury guys like Caleb Farley, you talk about

1001
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: um potentially Harris Marshall, who's got some some medicals with

1002
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: the foot, and he's got some stuff there, but he's

1003
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: also got potential first round value. So it's always gonna

1004
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: be the injuries or the character. And as far as

1005
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: the character stuff, the two guys Michael Parsons who has

1006
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: some stuff that happened to Penn State, and then um

1007
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: uh Jalen Phillips, who's who's had injuries and has had

1008
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 1: some some some questions about character and football um football

1009
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: character specifically the teams I talked to about both those players,

1010
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 1: just say two talented to fall out of the first

1011
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: du I don't matter whoa whoa who who? Greg mac

1012
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: Jones d right, it's weird to me. Black Prescott how

1013
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: many d us? How many d us does he have?

1014
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: I thought he had to yeah, because the Internet told

1015
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: you he's got one. And I think that's interesting. I

1016
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: brought that up on my radio show. Yeah, the the

1017
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: it's funny that Twitter started saying he had two d

1018
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: u eys and I had to check with teams. I'm like, hey,

1019
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: I've only got one in two thousand seventeen, and they said, yeah,

1020
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,479
Speaker 1: he's only got one. But on Twitter it's said, I'm sorry,

1021
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 1: what did you say, Lance? Did you say? On Twitter?

1022
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: It said, and then they hung up the phone on me.

1023
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: So that's good. Yeah, I didn't want to point that

1024
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 1: out that it's I saw Cessler had that number right,

1025
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: it's one. I have not talked to anybody who said

1026
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: we had to. But that's one of those things that

1027
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 1: once it gets put out there into you know, into

1028
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: the internet, it turns into something that we all work

1029
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: off of, and that just is inaccurate. Now, Um, what

1030
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: the hell what were we talking about? Can I ask

1031
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,919
Speaker 1: you about Mica Parsons? And maybe this is also way off,

1032
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: but did I read that he um effectively as a

1033
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: one person band started a riot? Because I kind of

1034
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 1: like that, And unless I read that wrong, I thought

1035
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: that's the he started a riot one man ride in

1036
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: high school cafeteria. That's accurate. Um, that would make me

1037
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: want to bring him into my building. He was a wrestler.

1038
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: I get a feeling hands this will know this the

1039
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: one man, one man gang. So so this is he's

1040
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: kind of like a one man riot in high school. Yes,

1041
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: And honestly, I'm probably gonna use that phrase as a

1042
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: complimentary phrase in scouting next year. Is like a one

1043
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: man riot on the defensive line, because it's actually a

1044
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: perfect that's a hundred percent. And that's one of those

1045
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: things that for me, it'll get stuck and I'll say, oh,

1046
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: this is a good one, a one man riot. He

1047
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: did start that. That's one of the concerns. Um there's

1048
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: an issue that you can google and find out a

1049
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: hazing incident that that happened in um at Penn State

1050
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: with the teammate, and the teammate I believe was suing him.

1051
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not sure where that stands right now.

1052
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: So you do have you have a couple of incidents

1053
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: where the hazing got out of control, wildly out of control.

1054
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: Isaiah Wilson's like, stay away from this guy. Well, I

1055
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: think I can't tell anyone anything. I mean, honestly, after Isaiah, no,

1056
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: Micael Mica gets out there and is gonna play. He

1057
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: just has edge, and so you have to find out

1058
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: is this a bad guy or is he a guy

1059
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: with edge? I think the teams I talked to you

1060
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: think he's a guy with edge. You always know he's

1061
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: gonna be a little a little extra and everything that

1062
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: he does on the field, and you want to make

1063
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: sure he doesn't do it off the field. But from

1064
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: what I told, it's all manageable. He's you know, he's

1065
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: just an alpha player who's got an alpha demeanor and

1066
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: it's something that you have to keep an eye on.

1067
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 1: But um, his love of the game is not really

1068
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: in question by anyone, and that's clearly an issue with

1069
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: Isaiah Wilson. But shout out to you for for recalling

1070
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: the U for bringing back the Isaiah Wilson things to

1071
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: make your point though. Thank you. And and by the way,

1072
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: one Man Gang that was a wrestler in the early eighties.

1073
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: He then rebranded himself and this is eighties wrestling, as

1074
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 1: they often do in the ages. Yeah, it is problematic

1075
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: in in a lot of ways. When you go back

1076
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 1: and look at the flotlines. He's a big, like six

1077
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: ft eight, six ft nine fifty pound white dude, and

1078
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:01,720
Speaker 1: he rebranded himself a team the African Dream. Oh no,

1079
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: oh no, not real. That's not real? Is that real?

1080
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: So you know, every wrestling character in the eighties would

1081
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: take whatever was in the news. Then I remember there

1082
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: was immediately as soon as something happened with a plane

1083
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: being shot down and Libya was involved, there was a

1084
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: wrestler named the Libyan Like. You would never see that now.

1085
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: And if you do your and you go through the timeline,

1086
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: I came the African Dream. I came a La Juan.

1087
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 1: I came the dream a La Juan. Just lazy branding,

1088
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: lazy wrestling branding is what that is. Yeah, you're probably right.

1089
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: You're right all right now before we say goodbye Land,

1090
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: since we started it with you looking like you're the

1091
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: chuckle hutt in downtown Houston, I'm gonna give you a

1092
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 1: subject and then you're gonna just give me a riff.

1093
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: Give me what you got. You got five kids. Give

1094
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: me a riff on being a dad to five kids

1095
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 1: during pandemic life. Uh so I had. They went viral

1096
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: with a fight. Two of them got to a fight

1097
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: during the basketball game on the driveway, and Lamar Jackson

1098
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: got ahold of it, retweeted it, and then it just

1099
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: went bananas. They ended up on Sports Center and yeah,

1100
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: and then yesterday those same two kids or I'm sorry,

1101
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,959
Speaker 1: on Friday, they were both suspended for their basketball team

1102
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: for leaving the school and walking to the store so

1103
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: they could go buy it like an orange Fanta and

1104
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: some potato chips. They just they just ghosted the school

1105
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: for about a hour and a half, so they were

1106
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: they were both right there, and it seems like you

1107
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: and I have a similar lid over the situation in

1108
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: our household. So you know, I like that check that

1109
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: you can find that anywhere. I don't know if you

1110
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: want that to be something that is a part of

1111
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: your family history forever. But what it is, Well, the

1112
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: second child with the basketball throwing the basketball, that's where

1113
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, things got real. They grew up

1114
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: with brothers or cousins. That stuff happens, but there weren't

1115
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: cameras back then for us. Anyway. All right, there you go. Lance,

1116
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: You've said it all, you've done it all. You're You're

1117
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: not the African dream. To me, you're the American dream.

1118
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: And we'd love to have back anytime. Your role the

1119
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: American dream. We'll get. We'll get your Broadway. We'll get

1120
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: your Broadway rankings next time. Land says, let's do the

1121
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: time Broadway guy. Just there's a lot of hot takes there.

1122
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: We'll get it all right, next time, Lance, Thank you, buddy.

1123
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: All right, thanks guys, All right, before we go, I

1124
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: do want to point out, because we didn't on this

1125
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: podcast officially, we did on our network show, but that

1126
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: it was a birthday for our host. What is it

1127
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 1: The New Old blue Eyes for your birthday. I'll say that,

1128
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: I'll say that nickname. That's my birthday present to you.

1129
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: But he celebrated over the weekend and we tried to

1130
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: get a um a cameo from one of his favorite

1131
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 1: players of all time in time for our TV show.

1132
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: It came a little late, but we should just play

1133
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: this on the podcast. Ricky, Hey, Danny Wayne Quebec from

1134
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: New York. Yet you've got a message from Ricky Hollywood.

1135
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: I want to reach out to you. Tell me you're

1136
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: a big Jet fan and a fan of mine. I

1137
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: appreciate it, man, you know how to blastem. My eleven

1138
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: years hopefully gave you a lot to tear about, A

1139
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: big reason I am reaching out to her. You're having

1140
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: your birthday, so very happy birthday to you, Dan. I

1141
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: just want to let you know everybody's thinking about your

1142
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: love you. You know, hopefully have a great day's safe day.

1143
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: Wanted me to tell you that you have the best

1144
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: hair out of anyone and I've ever seen concerned. They

1145
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: want people to call you the new old blue Eyes.

1146
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what's it means, man, but it sounds

1147
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: like you guys some great friends. Very rising you a

1148
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: little bit. Uh, listen, and it was a tough year

1149
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: of two wins. You know, there's nothing you can do

1150
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: about it now. But they got a great new coach,

1151
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: great new coach, coaching staff. We got a second to

1152
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: the second pick in the draft. Man, we get a quarterback.

1153
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure wish one, but young guys did well.

1154
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: You know backed in in Uh. You know she had

1155
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: made the Pro Bowl. Quinn should made the Pro Bowl.

1156
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: So there's a lot to be excited about. So look

1157
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: forward to that two thousand. I want hopefully you have

1158
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: a great two thousand twenty one. And I wanted to

1159
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: give a shout out to here get dad heard. He's

1160
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: the real Jets fame. So enjoy your day. Happy birthday, Dan,

1161
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: and go Jets. Take care man. That was so you know,

1162
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: I do have great friends, and I thank all you

1163
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: guys for that because my birthday went in the really quick.

1164
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: On Friday, we did our network show and and um,

1165
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: you know I was about to have a nice family day,

1166
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: uh and just enjoy myself, have a few Tito's. And

1167
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: then my eldest son Jack has an accident in school

1168
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: where he gets a cut on his head that requires

1169
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 1: a visit to the urgent care and stitches, and it's

1170
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: just you know, for any parents, you guys all get

1171
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: it that, you know, you just feel so helpless, especially

1172
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: if it happens when you're not around. Uh So that

1173
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: that was weighing on me heavily. And I also had

1174
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: gotten my second vaccine shot, which was great the day

1175
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: before my birthday, but then that was hitting me pretty hard.

1176
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: So it was like, not the best birthday. But then

1177
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,479
Speaker 1: when the Wayne Crebett video arrived on Friday night, that

1178
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: that's salvage things a little bit and I thank you

1179
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: for that. Carbett was for people that are younger, don't

1180
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: really know, like he was kind of like an Edelman

1181
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: prototype type dude, like a guy that didn't get a

1182
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: lot of love. In fact, he's a former Hofstra wide

1183
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: receiver um out in Long Island in New York and

1184
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: the Jets used to train there and Hofstra and part

1185
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: of the agreement that the college had the university had

1186
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: with the Jets was well, you could use our grounds

1187
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: for training camp, but we get to send one of

1188
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: our undrafted guys to camp and he gets a shot.

1189
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: Carbett was that guy, and he became one of the

1190
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: best receivers in franchise history, and if you actually look

1191
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: at his numbers stacks up with Edelman. He didn't have

1192
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: the postseason resume, But I love Wayne Crebett. The first

1193
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: jersey I ever bought with my own money. So yes,

1194
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: if you're looking for Joe Namath as Market told me, uh,

1195
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: that would have been great and awesome, but Carbett actually

1196
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: is more near and dear to my heart number eighty

1197
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: the Green Lantern as he was. I will mention to

1198
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: you that we are you know, this was gonna We

1199
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: were sourcing this for multiple reasons, but multiple you know,

1200
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: ideally for your birthday and your pleasure. We did look

1201
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: into Lindsay Lohan. That was our price point. Um, so

1202
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: you got Wayne Crabet, But I think that we did fine. Friends.

1203
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: Shout out to Jason Kleman for thinking of thinking of that.

1204
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: He was so sweet and yeah, Wayne was like he

1205
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: kind of gave off like a Connor or vibe too.

1206
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: I really it was good. The whole thing was he's

1207
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: also like I just and this comes from being like

1208
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: an East Coast guy at heart and like he grew

1209
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: up in Garfield, win Kurbet, which is exit one fifty

1210
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: seven on the Garden State. I grew up just over

1211
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: the border at exit one seventy two. So like he's

1212
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: like every guy went to high school with basically, and

1213
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: he for him to carve out and I was really nice.

1214
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: So you're gonna get me emotional. It's great, good stuff.

1215
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: I don't think we'd get into Garden State Parkway talk today,

1216
01:02:55,880 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: but it. Yeah, you need to make up up for

1217
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: something that you've had two of these birthdays during the pandemic. Here. Um,

1218
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: I actually had something to moan about, but now I

1219
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: feel like in a good, good place emotionally, So I'm

1220
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: gonna save that for tomorrow, Ricky. So let's hold off

1221
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: on something I'm angry about, because who needs that right

1222
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: now in the world. Uh, Connie, Yes, what are you leaving?

1223
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: When are you're heading over to the Cleveland tomorrow? Tomorrow

1224
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: morning at like five am. I'm out. There's no direct

1225
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: flights from l A to Cleveland. Come on, mark that

1226
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: what I've been to Cleveland like twice in my life.

1227
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: Like I don't I'm not in charge of the airspace

1228
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: I Cleland. I mean, if you're gonna be like punching

1229
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: down at Cincinnati all the time, you gotta puff your

1230
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: chest out about Cleveland. I will do whatever I please.

1231
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: I do want to. It does make me want to

1232
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: check now since you brought it up, Greg, are there

1233
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: direct flights from l A to Cincinnati? I don't know

1234
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: why that could be. Don't in a big spot for sinc.

1235
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: That's all for what purpose? We'll send Mark out there.

1236
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: Anything else? Anybody else have anything that miss you? Guys?

1237
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: This has been nice hanging it has been nice. I

1238
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: mean Connie, excuse me, Okay, I see how it is,

1239
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: all right, don't take it personally. I'm sorry. And Erica,

1240
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: why don't you jump in here? How are you doing?

1241
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: Since I brought you up? Nice haircut, Ricky, Thanks, nice jobs.

1242
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: Did a good job with the hair. Good work, well, yeah,

1243
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: took a took a little help. A couple of strands

1244
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: were much longer, and I left like that, so Jet

1245
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: had to take scissors to my head. Did you go

1246
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: to supercuts like? Yeah? I should have. It probably would

1247
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: have been better. God, dang, it's a mask issue. The

1248
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: same thing happened to me. It's a common problem. Did

1249
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: you not speak with the stylist at a later point?

1250
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 1: It feels like she got off Scott free here. I

1251
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 1: feel bad not going back as the biggest punishment you

1252
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: can give her. So yeah, good lesson in consumerism from Greg.

1253
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: There a level headedness really comes through in a big spot.

1254
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: All right, awesome, I love it. We got four more

1255
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: shows coming this week. We got one Tomorrow, Tuesday, Wednesday,

1256
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have special guests. We're gonna do our

1257
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: sandwich props for the draft Thursday night of course, and

1258
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: then Saturday night recap, great fun analysis guest Scalore. So

1259
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: we stay tuned this Dan Hanson signing off four Quiet Storm,

1260
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: the Tiny Box, the old Boss, Ricky Hollywood, behind the

1261
01:05:48,280 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: virtual glass until Tuesday. He's the call s