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Speaker 2: All right, folks, were about ready to discuss global geopolitics

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Speaker 1: That is the good news, folks, buckle up.

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Speaker 2: But it's going to be unstable for a few months

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Speaker 2: All right, let's turn over to China, and Brian Costello's

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Speaker 2: What any news that's noticeable in the last month, moves

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Speaker 5: Shareholders first night.

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Speaker 2: You bet you bet, Thank you brother, it's great, you

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Speaker 5: Hi, Doc, Brad, so great to see you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great, Catherine, give us a little more. We

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Speaker 7: Hahnwell here at the Helm, filling in for Steve and

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Speaker 7: Glynn tell us a bit then about the office today

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Speaker 4: Moby, Well, you.

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Speaker 7: Glenn, tell me, tell me, because you you just to

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Speaker 3: think the War Room posse and the Jason Aldane's crowded

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Speaker 3: very similar in nature. You know, they love their country,

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Speaker 3: they love God, and they really want to see this,

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Speaker 3: see our country grow and become more prosperous.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Glenn, sorry many thanks indeed for.

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Speaker 7: Coming on today and just closed there with some great news.

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Speaker 4: I think fall of the country.

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Speaker 7: Music devotees to the war and we'll catch up again

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Speaker 7: with you soon.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for your instructor as.

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Speaker 7: Well about cope Leo the fourteenth.

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Speaker 3: God bless Favoa, bless day brother.

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Speaker 7: Let's go to Jenny Holland now before we go to

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Speaker 7: our break.

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Speaker 4: In a couple of minutes, Jenny came on the show. Folks.

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Speaker 7: You might remember this when I was sort of doing

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Speaker 7: some filling in for Steve when he was at Danbury's spot,

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Speaker 7: and the feedback just absolutely exploded.

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Speaker 4: Jenny, you will remember this because you mentioned that.

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Speaker 7: As someone formerly of an agnostic, strict atheistic background, if

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Speaker 7: you'd actually started to take up praying the roads with

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Speaker 7: it and you were talking about it on a daily basis,

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Speaker 7: and you were talking about the spiritual reward that you're

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Speaker 7: already starting to see in your life. And I have

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Speaker 7: to say, of all the pieces I did on the

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Speaker 7: show in that period, that was probably the one I

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Speaker 7: think I had the most dramatic impacts. I'm very grateful

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Speaker 7: that you've come on to the show today. Tell me,

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Speaker 7: basically from that background, for someone who had an atheistic,

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Speaker 7: agnostic background and someone who started just picking up one

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Speaker 7: of the principal Catholic devotionals that had fallen into disuse

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Speaker 7: right across the West, tell me what your first reaction

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Speaker 7: is to the election of this new American pope.

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Speaker 11: Well, I want to preface everything I'm going to say

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Speaker 11: with a huge dollar of humility, because far be it

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Speaker 11: from me to position myself as an expert on the

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Speaker 11: Vatican or the Pope or anything like that. But I mean,

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Speaker 11: I've been following the criticisms of the Vatican under Francis

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Speaker 11: very closely, actually, and I was aware that there was

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Speaker 11: certain cardinals who were considered more traditional and that now

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Speaker 11: pop Leo is not necessarily one of those. So I

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Speaker 11: take all of those concerns very seriously, because I don't

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Speaker 11: think there's a future again with the utmost Humility not

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Speaker 11: being a fully fledged member. I don't think there's a

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Speaker 11: future for the Catholic Church if it does not return

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Speaker 11: to the more traditional.

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Speaker 5: Aspects of it.

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Speaker 11: It's neither fish nor foul nor good red herring if

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Speaker 11: it stays in the sort of Francis no man's land.

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Speaker 11: So I take all of those worries seriously. However, I

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Speaker 11: have been somewhat heartened today to see a host of

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Speaker 11: clips of the New Hope taking very kind of common sense,

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Speaker 11: perhaps centrist, but at least common sense positions on things

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Speaker 11: like gender and borders. You think that these are the

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Speaker 11: most basic, the most basic building blocks of society and also,

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Speaker 11: perhaps I am falling into a trap of being overly

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Speaker 11: optimistic or pollyanna ish, But given the state of division

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Speaker 11: that I think the West is in right now, maybe

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Speaker 11: there's an argument to be made that he can help

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Speaker 11: bridge some of that.

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Speaker 4: Jenny, we're going to dig down on that point.

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Speaker 7: Just after this advret coming up, Jenny Holland writes for

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Speaker 7: both substicks, Substick and Spiked.

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Speaker 4: We're back with her insights in just ten seconds time.

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Speaker 12: Don't go away, yours stupent came then, welcome back.

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Speaker 7: So earlier on in the show, we were talking about

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Speaker 7: the possibly financial calculations that the conclave were considering in

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Speaker 7: the choice of the new pope, because the Holy See

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Speaker 7: is in massive financial difficulty right now, and a lot

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Speaker 7: of the substantial American benefactors had been withdrawing their support

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Speaker 7: under the Berdogolio anti pontificate because the guy had made

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Speaker 7: it clear constantly over twelve years that he was against

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Speaker 7: American free market capitalism. But what Jenny Holland was saying

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Speaker 7: there just before the break, it's really what the Catholic

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Speaker 7: Church is about, because it's not an NGO, it's not

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Speaker 7: a financial organization, it's not a human traffic organization, even

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Speaker 7: if those are the things that it's spent the last

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Speaker 7: decade on pushing down on his fundamental a supernatural institution

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Speaker 7: created by.

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Speaker 4: Jesus Christ for the salvation of souls.

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Speaker 7: Let me come back to about that point you were

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Speaker 7: making that sort of the expiration use of neither fish

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Speaker 7: nor foul.

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Speaker 4: Tell me how important it is from.

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Speaker 7: The same generation, how much do you think How important

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Speaker 7: do you think it is with people of our generation,

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Speaker 7: many people who are searching for some meaning in their lives,

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Speaker 7: some framework around which to draw meaning in a world

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Speaker 7: without a great deal of visible faith. How important do

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Speaker 7: you think it is that the Catholic Church has has

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Speaker 7: this element of being unchanging throughout time? And do you

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Speaker 7: think there were aspects of the previous ten years that

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Speaker 7: really pushed people.

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Speaker 4: Away from checking out not.

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Speaker 7: Only Catholicism but Christianity in a wider sense.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely. I think its importance is everything. It's all important.

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Speaker 11: I think for people like me who are former atheists,

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Speaker 11: very secular, left wing indie kids, all grown up and

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Speaker 11: facing middle age. If we wanted sort of happy clappy

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Speaker 11: modern guitar playing Christianity, we can get that literally anywhere

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Speaker 11: and everywhere. Every institution is set up to provide that

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Speaker 11: the fact that we don't want it is the tell

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Speaker 11: and that should be the signal to the church to

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Speaker 11: correct its course and go back to the things that

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Speaker 11: made it unique in the first place. I think that

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Speaker 11: clearly our modern contemporary lifestyle has engendered a spiritual crisis

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Speaker 11: that is certainly unseen in my lifetime. I mean probably well,

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Speaker 11: definitely in my lifetime, let's say.

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Speaker 5: And the fact that people like.

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Speaker 11: Me are yearning for the older ways is something that

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Speaker 11: needs to be listened to. I think that is the modern,

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Speaker 11: more liberal, more progressive churches in the United States are

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Speaker 11: not flourishing. It is the conservative churches and the traditional churches,

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Speaker 11: the Latin mass being a very good example of this,

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Speaker 11: churches that are most in demand, and that has to

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Speaker 11: be picked up on.

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Speaker 4: I want to bring in Liz. You're right now, Liz,

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Speaker 4: you're obviously well, very well known.

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Speaker 7: To the warring Possey, someone who's constantly pushing promoting the

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Speaker 7: rights of children, the rights of the family, and you've

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Speaker 7: often been pushing against the lack of leadership that was

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Speaker 7: provided by the late unlamented Pope.

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Speaker 4: But let me ask you this.

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Speaker 7: Let me ask you this question following on what Jenny

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Speaker 7: Hollands was just saying about this spiritual aspect, is that

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Speaker 7: very much your action too, that there's been a spiritual

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Speaker 7: crisis in the Catholic Church rather than just simply the

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Speaker 7: political crisis the lack of political leadership that we've been

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Speaker 7: following together.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Jenny's put her finger on it precisely. It's all

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Speaker 13: been about process, Sonatyl, Sonatyl, Sonatyl, And what we know

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Speaker 13: is this new Sonatyl Church is the death knell for Catholicism.

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Speaker 13: This church was not built on process, listening accompanying. It

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Speaker 13: was built on the truth of Jesus Christ. And that

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Speaker 13: is what has been lost, certainly in the last twelve years.

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Speaker 13: And when I recently last night, I watched the new

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Speaker 13: popees Q and A at his old church in the

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Speaker 13: South Side of Chicago, and it.

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Speaker 14: Was twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 13: He was a cardinal, he had been at the Vatican

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Speaker 13: as head of the diecast, and all he talked about

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Speaker 13: was the sonatl way and talked about process and about

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Speaker 13: listening in being you know, the kind and soft and

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Speaker 13: gentle church. It sounded like, frankly, you know, a sixties

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Speaker 13: hippie and what concerns me and I told you this morning, Ben,

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Speaker 13: I think we've been played again. Prevos was a dark horse,

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Speaker 13: not mentioned in in the media and even in the

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Speaker 13: Catholic media, thank you, until Steve Bannon said, wait a minute,

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Speaker 13: I'm hearing Prevos.

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Speaker 14: And the reason, my argument is the reason we were

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Speaker 14: not we didn't hear about him and he was kept

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Speaker 14: under wraps.

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Speaker 13: Is because there was no ability to vet him to

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Speaker 13: find out what his history is in Peru. Now, of

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Speaker 13: course it's coming up that there were cases of cover up.

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Speaker 13: We're going to find out more and you know, so

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Speaker 13: this is what I feel like we've been played all along,

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Speaker 13: that there was a syop that.

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Speaker 14: Was going on.

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Speaker 13: They were pushing other candidates. Will continue to find out

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Speaker 13: how this rolled out. Obviously, the gravity of the office

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Speaker 13: of Pope will bring special graces to this man.

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Speaker 14: Hopefully he will respond.

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Speaker 7: Let me come back to that point that you mentioned,

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Speaker 7: by the way you absolutely write that Steve Bannon had

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Speaker 7: been spent, had spent the last ten days flagging up

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Speaker 7: Cardinal Prevost and the danger that he post Let me

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Speaker 7: ask you this question, and from what you were just

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Speaker 7: saying about this new pope and the fact that you

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Speaker 7: said that conservatives have been played, had been played in

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Speaker 7: that conflict.

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Speaker 4: Could you just say a little bit more about that?

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Speaker 4: What you mean by that.

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Speaker 13: Well, what I'm concerned about is that Cardinal soupicch the

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Speaker 13: American delegation. He had eyed him as Prevost, as a

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Speaker 13: possible replacement for Francis a long time ago, and he

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Speaker 13: had placed him in the Vatican in a prominent position.

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Speaker 14: They did certainly keep the reps on him.

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Speaker 13: They understood precisely where his quote unquote theology was. He

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Speaker 13: was a climate change big on the COVID shutdown. I'm

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Speaker 13: certainly a huge proponent of migration, which is the centerpiece

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Speaker 13: of destroying not only America, but Western civilization and Europe

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Speaker 13: as we now see. So my concern is that he

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Speaker 13: was the ideal candidate to keep, you know, in their

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Speaker 13: back pocket and to pull them out once the conclave

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Speaker 13: started voting.

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Speaker 14: I mean, think about this, a man.

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Speaker 13: We'd never heard about, in four short votes becomes the Pope.

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Speaker 13: I mean, it's you know, he's a cardinal only a

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Speaker 13: short period of time. I mean, look, I come from Chicago.

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Speaker 13: I'm not watching all the news, you know, you know,

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Speaker 13: with the Bears jerseys and he's a white Sox fan,

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Speaker 13: and oh this is so cool. I mean, when the

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Speaker 13: church is in crisis, these kinds of commentary are just

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Speaker 13: just silly.

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Speaker 14: It's time to focus on a church and crisis.

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Speaker 13: My real concern is, and possibly Jenny will agree with me,

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Speaker 13: my concern is.

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Speaker 14: What is going to happen to the church in America.

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Speaker 13: Although he's an American, he holds dual passports, dual citizenships.

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Speaker 14: So my real concern is that it's.

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Speaker 13: All about sonatl You heard that in his opening statement

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Speaker 13: from the Loja. He is a Sonodyl pope through and

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Speaker 13: through and that is a recipe for disaster.

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Speaker 14: And we're going to see it in our local parishes.

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Speaker 13: We're going to see it on our bulletins, and it's

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Speaker 13: going to be implemented. And what Sonodal is is a

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Speaker 13: political ideoology, ideology that is pushing migration and climate change.

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Speaker 13: It's not pushing or promoting the teacher of Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 7: Let me just pass over to give the last two

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Speaker 7: minutes to Jenny Holland on that one, migration and climate change.

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Speaker 7: You're the only person I know, Jenny who's a non

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Speaker 7: Catholic who prays the Rosary, tell me. When you see

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Speaker 7: the exponents of the Catholic hierarchy pushing these issues, does

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Speaker 7: it make it easier for you to continue with these

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Speaker 7: Catholic devotionals or is it putting an obstacle in your path?

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Speaker 11: Well, it doesn't put an obstacle on the path of

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Speaker 11: my daily Rosary practice, which I'm still doing and I'm

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Speaker 11: on currently over one hundred day street. But it does

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Speaker 11: make me leary of the institution. So what happens in

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Speaker 11: your home is one thing, joining the institution is another.

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Speaker 11: And I take your point Ben about the Mitt Romney comparison,

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Speaker 11: and I certainly take Lizard's points about this in nodality

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Speaker 11: and all of that stuff that you know more than

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Speaker 11: I do. But what I can say for certain is

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Speaker 11: that whatever has been awakened among the people, a sense

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Speaker 11: of spiritual awakening that cannot be undone even by a

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Speaker 11: Mitt Romney esque pope, which again I have no idea

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Speaker 11: if he is or not.

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Speaker 4: I hope he isn't.

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Speaker 11: But what's happening on the ground, and what's happening person

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Speaker 11: to person isn't going to be shut down by even

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Speaker 11: a woke pope.

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Speaker 4: In my opinion, Jenny, very very grateful, for you coming

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Speaker 4: on the show.

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Speaker 7: Where do people go to keep up with your writings

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Speaker 7: on substack, which I very strongly recommend You've written sort

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Speaker 7: of movingly about the spiritual journey that you want on substack,

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Speaker 7: but also inspiked where can they go on social media

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Speaker 7: to keep up with you?

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Speaker 11: I'm semper Femina twenty one on X and the substack

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Speaker 11: is Jenny E. Holland dot substack or Saving Culture from

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Speaker 11: Itself is the title.

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Speaker 7: Jenny, Thanks for coming back on the show. We'll catch up,

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Speaker 7: no doubt again with you soon as this pontificate rolls on.

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Speaker 7: This is your Where do people go to keep up

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Speaker 7: with your writings on social media? Your analysis, your observations,

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Speaker 7: your warnings.

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Speaker 13: I'm everywhere on social media under Elizabeth your and also

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Speaker 13: my website is your children dot com.

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Speaker 7: This is your Thank you, Thank you very much, Thank

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Speaker 7: you both very much for coming on the show.

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Speaker 4: Quickly. In the final two minutes of this before we

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Speaker 4: go to the ad, Mike Davis, good morning to you.

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Speaker 5: Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 7: Tell me first stop then, as as an Irish American

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Speaker 7: proud Catholic, I hope what was it?

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Speaker 4: What was your what was your your first reactions?

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Speaker 7: When you see a fellow American coming.

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Speaker 4: Out on the balcony on the lodger.

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Speaker 1: Look.

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Speaker 6: I want to give the new pope time to make

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Speaker 6: his way. I'm concerned he's as I'm concerned. This is

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Speaker 6: a leftist pope following our last leftist pope. But I

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Speaker 6: want to give Pope Leo the chance to show the

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Speaker 6: world how he wants to lead the Catholic Church. I

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Speaker 6: saw interviews with the Pope's American brothers. I thought they

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Speaker 6: humanized him quite a bit. He seems like Pope Leo

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Speaker 6: seems like a very good man who has done a

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Speaker 6: lot of good things in Peru as a missionary or

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Speaker 6: whatever the hell he's doing down in South America. Let's

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Speaker 6: just hope that he keeps the church focused on Catholic

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Speaker 6: faith and works instead of woke ideology like the last Pope.

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Speaker 4: Posse.

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Speaker 7: I'm sure you will have got your note padim paper,

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Speaker 7: writing very concerned notes to yourselves that Mike Davis doesn't

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Speaker 7: seem to be entirely on message with the wall line,

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Speaker 7: the war room line on a hashtag not my Pope

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Speaker 7: the Seventh. We're going to obviously need to put the thumb.

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Speaker 4: Screws on him.

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Speaker 7: There. Just tell me just in thirty seconds before we

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Speaker 7: go to the break, mic, did you see anything on

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Speaker 7: the American cable news that gave you calls for concern

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Speaker 7: over the last twelve twenty four hours.

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Speaker 6: I'm the new pope, you know, I mean I heard him. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I heard his brothers say that he's going to be

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Speaker 6: not much different from the last Marxist pope. So that

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Speaker 6: causes concern. Look, I'm a Catholic, probably not as good

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Speaker 6: as I should be, but I went to thirteen years

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Speaker 6: of Catholic school. I let's hope this isn't a Marxist

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Speaker 6: pope because he needs to bring back the market, not republic.

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Speaker 7: That the Vatican's one hundred yards away. We're going to

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Speaker 7: take mac Davis down.

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Speaker 4: To the dungeons there, put on the thumb screws back

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Speaker 4: in Mike Davis and.

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Speaker 1: Use who Stephen came the.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back.

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Speaker 7: Well, many people in the war room who've been following

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Speaker 7: the Culture.

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Speaker 4: Wars for a number of years will know the name

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Speaker 4: of Ed Martin.

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Speaker 7: He was Phill the legendary Phyllis Schlaffley's disciple basically.

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Speaker 4: And took over from her.

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Speaker 7: Winning the Eagle Forum also US attorney attorney representing Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: Mike, tell me there's been some It didn't quite.

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Speaker 7: Go forward though, right with Ed Martin on the hill,

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Speaker 7: tell me tell us a bit about what has happened him,

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Speaker 7: because this was a great guy.

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Speaker 4: Did the Republicans not come out to support him? What happened?

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Speaker 6: That's exactly right, because Republicans are weak and fectless, and

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Speaker 6: they proved that they're weak and factless. Again, Ed Martin

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Speaker 6: is a very good man. He's a good friend of mine.

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Speaker 6: Trump made him the interim DCUs attorney that's one hundred

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Speaker 6: and twenty day appointments, and then Trump nominated him for

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Speaker 6: the permanent job for four years and decent the Senate

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Speaker 6: Republicans who confirmed, you know, Rachel Rollins got confirmed by Biden.

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Speaker 6: Biden the US attorney in Boston, who was extremely controversial.

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Speaker 6: A lot of these Republicans voted to confirm Merrick Garland

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Speaker 6: and so many other Biden controversial picks. But they just

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Speaker 6: couldn't stomach Ed Martin's politics because Ed Martin is too

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Speaker 6: conservative and too controversial for these country club Republicans in

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Speaker 6: the Senate, and so they torpedoed Ed Martin's nomination for

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Speaker 6: the DC US attorney. But they're going to get someone

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Speaker 6: who's even more bold, fearless, and tougher with Judge Shanin Piro,

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Speaker 6: which is just phenomenal that Judge Janine has agreed to

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Speaker 6: do this. She's making a huge personal sacrifice to go

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Speaker 6: do this. One hundred and twenty day DC US attorney appointment.

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Speaker 6: She gave up, you know, she's she has a huge

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Speaker 6: box contract. She's lives a good life in New York

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Speaker 6: and she's going to move to the to the swamp,

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Speaker 6: d C. And I would say the biggest winners of

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Speaker 6: this are the poor black families in DC trapped in

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Speaker 6: these crime ridden DC neighborhoods, And the biggest losers are

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Speaker 6: going to be these oligarchs who are grifting off of

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Speaker 6: Ukraine and these violent criminals in DC.

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Speaker 5: Judge he needs not going to put up with it.

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Speaker 4: And Oh Ed.

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Speaker 6: Martin, by the way, they left him for dead on

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Speaker 6: the side of the road. Ed Martin's now going to

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Speaker 6: go to the Deputy Attorney General's office where Ed Martin's

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Speaker 6: going to be working on presidential hardens for President Trump.

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Speaker 6: So not only has Ed not gone away, they've only

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Speaker 6: in boldened him. So good work Senate Republicans, You once

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Speaker 6: again proved how weak and feckless you are.

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Speaker 7: My name is You're the number one person that I

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Speaker 7: know that between the ambit of the the Supreme Court

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Speaker 7: and the Senate gupe holding their feet to the fire.

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Speaker 7: Just before you jump, just tell me, do you think

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Speaker 7: that Ed Martin had enough fire cover cover with the

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Speaker 7: Ed Martin nomination? Do you think the administration did all

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Speaker 7: it could to stay that through putting ourselves shows onto

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Speaker 7: the feckless GOP senators.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely.

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Speaker 6: President Trump personally lobbied Senate Republicans for this. The Article

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Speaker 6: three Projects did a huge phone to action campaign at

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Speaker 6: Article three project dot org.

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Speaker 4: You have.

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Speaker 6: Jack did a lot by Sordovich, did a lot, Will

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Speaker 6: Chamberlain and Josh Hammer at Article three Projects. We did

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Speaker 6: a lot to help Ed Martin through the politics of

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Speaker 6: the sheet. He should have been confirmed, but our weak

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Speaker 6: sisters in the Senate Republican Caucus couldn't stomach the fact

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Speaker 6: that Ed Martin thoughts that the election was rigged and

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Speaker 6: stolen in twenty twenty because it was, and he supported

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Speaker 6: January sixth defendants because they were persecuted.

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Speaker 5: According to the Supreme Court's Fisher.

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Speaker 4: Ruling, so to just let that news filter in.

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Speaker 7: President Trump himself hit the phones and was personally lobbying

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Speaker 7: US senators, and they turned their back on him. Well, impossibly,

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Speaker 7: they didn't turn their back simply on Potus. They turned

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Speaker 7: their back on you, the warroom audience. Mike Davis, where

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Speaker 7: do people go to keep up with your unique analysis

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Speaker 7: in this sphere of just the betrayal taking place at

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Speaker 7: an institutional level.

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Speaker 6: I would say to these weak Republican sisters and the Senates,

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Speaker 6: revenge is best serve cold, and revenge.

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Speaker 5: Is coming, so prepare for it.

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Speaker 6: From the article three projects you can go to article

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Speaker 6: three projects dot org article number three project dot org.

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Speaker 6: You can follow us on social media. You can donate,

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Speaker 6: but only what you can afford. Please, the most important

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Speaker 6: thing you do is take action. We came very close

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Speaker 6: on Ed Martin uh and revenge is coming to the

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Speaker 6: Senate Republicans who stabbed him in the back.

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Speaker 7: Mike Davis, Thanks very much. Catch up again with you soon.

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Speaker 7: God bless it now.

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Speaker 4: Mike Lindell.

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Speaker 7: Indeed, we'll catch up again with you on the show

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Speaker 4: Ben Harnwolle filling in for Stephen K.

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Speaker 7: Bannon today, My special thanks to us. I'm Spacey and

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Speaker 7: the entire team at Turning Point USA for Jack Pisobic,

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Speaker 7: who's very kindly lent us his studio facilities here in

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Speaker 7: We keep our prayers for Pope Leo the fourteenth as

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Speaker 7: God bless for now