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Speaker 1: Hi. I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling. Railvalry, No, no, sibling.

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Speaker 1: You don't do that with your mouth, Vely. That's good.

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Speaker 1: What happened? Oh my god, did you do that? You did?

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Speaker 1: Let me see look at me. Wow, that's good. So

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Speaker 1: what here? Take this mic? The boy. You're worried about

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Speaker 1: the boys making fun to your makeup? Why? Because Dylan

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Speaker 1: always says, like, why do you do makeup? I know,

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Speaker 1: but you're you know, you're a young girl who likes

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Speaker 1: to sort of experiment and put fun makeup on. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing wrong with it. Here's here's here's what I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you. Okay, you listening. Don't listen to what people say. Okay.

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Speaker 1: If you love it and you feel good and you

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Speaker 1: think it's cool, then you just move on about your day.

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Speaker 1: And if they have a problem with it, guess what,

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Speaker 1: that's their problem. That's not your problem. So if you

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Speaker 1: go into your brother's room and they make fun of

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Speaker 1: your eye makeup and they make fun of them, like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, you know, you just smile and say,

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Speaker 1: you know at peace, give them the flip of the bird,

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Speaker 1: you know what the bird is. No this honestly, don't

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Speaker 1: don't worry about that. Yeah, they can't make you feel bad,

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Speaker 1: remember that. Yeah, But like Dylan is gonna be make

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Speaker 1: fun of me, like watch all my tiktoks and it's

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Speaker 1: so annoying. Well, first of all, you're not public on TikTok,

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Speaker 1: you know, so only or is not. But how does

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Speaker 1: Dylan see her tiktoks? Body's fun? He won't say anything,

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Speaker 1: but like I'm coming, body won't say anything because like

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Speaker 1: he's my brother. But Dylan always makes fun of me

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Speaker 1: and I I didn't accept him on my TikTok. I

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Speaker 1: deleted him on my TikTok, and Ben Dylan share it

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Speaker 1: on like they screenshot it and then they just watch it.

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Speaker 1: And it's so annoying. Yeah, but you're you're creating videos

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Speaker 1: for yourself and for fun, right and and so you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're making videos, are you doing it just for

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Speaker 1: yourself or you're doing it myself? Do you want people

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Speaker 1: to see them? Right? You're doing fun videos for people

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Speaker 1: to watch. Who cares about what people think? This is

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you just go do you and don't

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Speaker 1: worry about what anyone thinks. As long as you're having

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Speaker 1: fun and you love what you're doing, whether it be

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Speaker 1: I makeup or whether it be singing or dancing or whatever,

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Speaker 1: then screw everyone else. Oh all right later, love you

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Speaker 1: all right. Started that podcast off with Little Daddy Dodter session.

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Speaker 1: She came, she did her makeup. Now, by the way,

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Speaker 1: we don't let her out of the house with makeup,

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Speaker 1: to be clear, you know, but we let her have fun.

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Speaker 1: She's eight years old and she does a kick ass job.

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Speaker 1: By the way, she comes into our room sometimes like like,

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Speaker 1: did you have like a professional makeup artist in your

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Speaker 1: room that I don't know about? Hey, what are you

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Speaker 1: doing here? Nothing? I was just talking and interrupted me.

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Speaker 1: But we'll talk about that after. We'll get into that. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I know. It's like it's like it's like someone it's

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Speaker 1: like you shit hair and makeup and wardrobe go into

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Speaker 1: her room and she comes out. It's crazy. She has

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Speaker 1: just like insane sort of I guess knack for putting

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Speaker 1: her make it. I'm like, oh my god, who did that,

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Speaker 1: and she's like I did. She's eight, you know, and

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Speaker 1: so she created this whole like sort of what would

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Speaker 1: you call it, like a wing effect wing dye liner? Yes,

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Speaker 1: is that what it's called? Winged? Yeah, like a winged effects. Well,

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Speaker 1: I was pretty fucking close. Given the fact that I

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Speaker 1: don't really know what I'm talking about, it's pretty good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but we don't let her, uh leave the house like that,

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Speaker 1: just to be clear, but we let her explore and

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Speaker 1: have fun and play. And then of course she's worried

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Speaker 1: at her, which of course they do. It's natural, which

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Speaker 1: of course they do. Yeah. Natural. You know. It's interesting

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Speaker 1: children finding that balance of letting them grow up and

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Speaker 1: also having to rain their asses in total, very very

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Speaker 1: fine line, but yeah, there is. But I think it's

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Speaker 1: important to have a balance boundaries, but yet also not

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, but you supplicate them totally. But you

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Speaker 1: just never know where on what side of that line

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Speaker 1: you're walking. It's just sort of like you're just making guesses, yeah, instinct,

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Speaker 1: and you go by the kid itself. The kid plays

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Speaker 1: a huge part. Some kids like really crave and need boundaries.

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Speaker 1: I mean most kids, but you need it more than others. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So to recap our week, you know, I think we

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Speaker 1: just maybe do like week like week caps and it's

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Speaker 1: called we caps with Oliver and Aaron or Aaron and

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Speaker 1: Oliver since you can go first, okay, like weak caps,

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Speaker 1: I got it. No, so would it be spelled with

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Speaker 1: a K? I think, but then it calls like we

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Speaker 1: are recapping we caps, but it's also weak cap caps.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just my brain works like that.

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Speaker 1: I like it. Well, we just we were in Albuquerque

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Speaker 1: where I'm working in Aaron Kurd to visit who you

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Speaker 1: just got back last night? And staying on this sort

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Speaker 1: of kids theme, you know, when you're when you're away

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Speaker 1: and then dealing with your kids sort of when they're away.

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Speaker 1: It's hard, you know, because you're not there dealing on

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Speaker 1: the day to day. And I had I got into

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Speaker 1: it with Wilder and then I apologized, you know, but

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Speaker 1: I was just hot. I got hot, you know, I

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Speaker 1: got angry because you know, he messed with his sister.

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Speaker 1: You know, he messed with his sister. He picked her

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Speaker 1: like threw her in a bush and she scraped her

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Speaker 1: leg really badly. And by the way, she didn't tattle.

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Speaker 1: I want to. I want to. I want to say

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Speaker 1: that like she just said, Oh, I've said, what's wrong,

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Speaker 1: I've been crying? She didn't say, and then I was prodding,

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Speaker 1: and then she explained it to me. And the problem is,

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Speaker 1: you get a pass like he's a teenager. Hormones are happening,

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Speaker 1: I guess, but you know, he puts her in the

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Speaker 1: bushes and she's crying, and then you don't really say, oh, hey,

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Speaker 1: are you okay? I'm sorry, And that just threw me

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Speaker 1: for a loop. I'm talking a lot right now, but

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Speaker 1: I want to explain myself to you and the audience

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Speaker 1: because we're dealing with siblings, okay, and sibling relationships, which

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Speaker 1: is crucial to me. When I see the kids not

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Speaker 1: getting along, it like devastates my soul. I get it

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Speaker 1: hurts and I think I'm yelling at my younger self

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Speaker 1: in a sense. And it we might have talked about

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Speaker 1: this before, have we not? I don't know. But because

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Speaker 1: I was not nice to Kate. You know, I was

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Speaker 1: a dick brother for the most part. I didn't have

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Speaker 1: the to love though you know, I was dealing with

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Speaker 1: I wasn't there for her, and I would trip her,

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Speaker 1: and you know, she would annoy me, and you know,

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Speaker 1: and so when I see Wilder the kids doing that

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Speaker 1: It makes sense. I just don't like it, and I

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Speaker 1: just lost. So I think we are super lucky that

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Speaker 1: all three of the kids most of the time, like

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Speaker 1: really get along. Like not only do they not get along,

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Speaker 1: but they have like a blast together. And just recently,

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Speaker 1: for some reason, we've kicked into a stage of them

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Speaker 1: just this little like tit for tat like stuff. Whereas

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Speaker 1: each other and always did. They were always a team.

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Speaker 1: I think their personalities, you know, age wise, all that

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Speaker 1: I mean they were always like best friends and had

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Speaker 1: each other and it was amazing, and then Rio. They

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Speaker 1: always like sweet and even when she was a toddler

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Speaker 1: and we had old videos and they're like, I tried,

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Speaker 1: we try to show the kids. Would you look at

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Speaker 1: you guys, Yeah, you're all cuddling, You're all on the

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Speaker 1: Rio's my little cuddle girl. She's just fucking She's just

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Speaker 1: so sweet. And she gets in bed. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: like hanging out with Bodie, awake them up, and I

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Speaker 1: touch her, That's what I'm thinking. And I'm just like, God,

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Speaker 1: what is what's wrong? I know, well, it's hard because

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Speaker 1: and then when they reject that. That's what drives me

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Speaker 1: knows how to push a but does she can be manipulative.

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Speaker 1: I always say they're like that you don't get it,

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Speaker 1: and we're like, wait, why do you guys like love

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Speaker 1: the emails I think that Allison sent us, but just

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Speaker 1: But if it gets to a place it's almost like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what I would do, like

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Speaker 1: you just got to be Look, you guys are brothers.

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Speaker 1: That's what I say to the boys sometimes, and like,

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Speaker 1: we were at other restaurants, it was like, well, Skall's

422
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: not here, and we were like, yeah, but every kitchen

423
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 1: has a dungeon. Remember started with the dungeon, and like

424
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: that word was just kind of like scary and mysterious,

425
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 1: and so we'd be like, I don't know who's down

426
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: in this dungeon, but I'm going to ask the waiter

427
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: if somebody's here it anyway. Oh my god, so much

428
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 1: of that, Oh my god, the knocking sound, snocking sound,

429
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: Holy shit. That's how we used to get the kids

430
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: to bed, because they'd be crazy and we created it

431
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: was it was like a second wind of like insanity,

432
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: like right before bed. It was just two boys, right,

433
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: so we didn't even have it. It was like crazy

434
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: or if they were going crazy and not listening any

435
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: of that, and then I would go into another room

436
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: and go or even like just like with your hand

437
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 1: down without them yea, when they wouldn't looking, I just

438
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: go like sometimes like loud and then sometimes and they'd

439
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 1: be like what is that. We'd be like, did you

440
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: hear that? That's the knocking sound? Dude, this is and

441
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: they'd be like, it's just it wasn't even a creature.

442
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: It was just knocking, knocking sound. It was almost like

443
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 1: a ghost. Yes, And so then that became for a while,

444
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: like how we got them in bed. They were being nuts.

445
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: All of a sudden you'd hear and they'd be like,

446
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 1: oh my god, they're like, or you do it. It

447
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: was like loud and it was like bang and was

448
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: kind of like bang bang bang and scare them and

449
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: they would just like run and jump into bed. So

450
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: funny monocking. So parenting is so fun Goody brought that

451
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: up recently. That's why you do anything and everything you can. Yeah,

452
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, like what's going to work done? Yeah,

453
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: shueshoe birds. That was real. That was real. That wasn't

454
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 1: the kids, Oh no, because it was like what makes

455
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: the knocking sound? And we were like shoeshoe birds? Remember? Yeah?

456
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: Like with rio anyways, like saying like it's like horrified. No,

457
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: I know, it's always something. It's always something. Now you

458
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: can't do it anymore. No, I know. It's so it's

459
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 1: just a wilder. You know, it's like I'm taking this away.

460
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: I know that's it. But they can, you know, manage

461
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: when they're little and you can't. It's almost like that

462
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: scared technique shakes them a little in the moment and

463
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: then they get scared. Yeah. No, I know it's true. Now, Wilder.

464
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: You know. I had that, you know, argument with him

465
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: on the phone, and then of course I texted him

466
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: and I and I called him. I'm like, dude, I'm sorry,

467
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: I got so upset. I'm just frustrated. I miss you.

468
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: I'm here, you know, dealing with school and his sister,

469
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, hurting his sister. Excuse me. But then we

470
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: started texting because basically I took away his computer, like

471
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: his video gaming computer for a week plus. Because here's

472
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: how it went down real quick. I don't know if

473
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: people are bored, but like whatever, they're not. I mean,

474
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: it's a story. They he did that to his sister,

475
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: and I was like, all right, dude, you're done with

476
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: your computer today. You're done. You're not playing tonight after

477
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: you do your homework. No, it's done. And he's like what,

478
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, that's it. We catch him from abroad

479
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: from Afar, we know that he played and just completely

480
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: gave me the middle finger. And at that point I

481
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: was not angry. I was like, I just can't believe

482
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: he did that, you know. So now I'm like, it's over, dude.

483
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: Two weeks, you're done. That's it. And by the way,

484
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: I'm still sticking to that, Like I've come home and

485
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: we're home and he's like and he's like, I know.

486
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I'm serious, But then you went for

487
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: two weeks. Wow, I'll turn into one. I'm sure. I

488
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: am a bit of a pushover too sometimes. So then

489
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: we just started texting and I was like, you completely

490
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: disrespected me, you know, I said, this sucks, and he

491
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: goes Taking stuff isn't going to solve anything, though, Dad.

492
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: It just makes me and the other kids more mad.

493
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: It doesn't make anything better. Like, think how many times

494
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: have you taken something away and think it's going to

495
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: solve the problem, and then later on another one happens

496
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: and you take something away. It just keeps repeating itself.

497
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: Over and over again. It makes the kid even more

498
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: angry and annoyed than they already are. You just ruined

499
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: my whole entire week, And I said, okay, I said,

500
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: but you ruined your entire week, not me, and he goes,

501
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: but it's your choice, so yes, it's you. And I said,

502
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: you made the choice to go against me. It was

503
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: one night that turned into a lot more, and he goes,

504
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: games are on my happy place dad, when I'm stressed

505
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: or angry, getting and talking with my friends. You made

506
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: everything I enjoy gone. I said, you made it gone, pal.

507
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: You made the choice to say whatever, I'm going to

508
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: play anyway, even though my dad said not to. And

509
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: then you lied to me again just now when I

510
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: asked you if you were playing. It's about trust, man,

511
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: I know you understand this. Yeah. And I played one

512
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: round and it was short after finishing my homework, after

513
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: two hours, while Dylan and Ben were here, and I

514
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: got off and you called me and okay, yes I lied.

515
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: But that's the first time I've lied in so long.

516
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: Do you know how much other kids lie to their parents.

517
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: It's crazy time. It's crazy time. After one little lie

518
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: about playing one match of a video game that you're

519
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: taking away. It just doesn't make it just doesn't make sense.

520
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: I love the part of like, I haven't lied in

521
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: so long. I do lie, I just haven't done it. Yeah, yeah,

522
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: And I said, I said, yeah, but you're not other kids,

523
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: and I'm not other parents. You made the choice to

524
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: test me and it didn't work out for you. I said,

525
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: we'll have a talk when I get home. But buddy,

526
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: as you get older and start going out to parties

527
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: and driving, I have to be able to trust you.

528
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: I have to believe what you tell me. It's so important.

529
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: I will never be mad at you when you tell

530
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: me the truth ever. I know, Dad, But if I

531
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: don't tell the truth once, you don't have to get

532
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,719
Speaker 1: all crazy. And these insane punishments, they're extreme. And I

533
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: never lie, like ninety nine percent of the time. I

534
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: never lie. And the one time I did, which was now,

535
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: you go to the worst punishment, the worst And I said, dude,

536
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: it was one night. I mean, I just banned him

537
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: for one night, and then he scripted the whole thing anyway,

538
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: it goes on and but it's just it's and then

539
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: he goes If I was the parent, I would be

540
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: like Okay, Well, if you really only played that long

541
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: and got off, then you're good. Just don't play the

542
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: rest of the night. It's amazing, so funny. I just

543
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: love it, you know, I said, you he goes. You

544
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,959
Speaker 1: gain nothing by punishing me like this, this, nothing like.

545
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: You gain nothing by punishing me like this, nothing at

546
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: all except your son being mad at you. That's so funny.

547
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: That's amazing, except your son being mad at you. And

548
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 1: then he goes and he goes and again. Your punishments

549
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: are too much. Even all my friends agree they're a

550
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: little too much. Anyway. It's funny, I know. So there's

551
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: a little window into my text exchange with the boy

552
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: that's wilder. They're fourteen year old. Fourteen year old, I know. Yeah,

553
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: it's a tough one. I feel like lies. I mean,

554
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: you know, all kids lie, like you always say, like

555
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: I set the bar too high, you know, for like

556
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: my expectations of them, which I think sometimes they are.

557
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: But I'm also realistic. I know, we all, you know,

558
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,479
Speaker 1: lie to our parents and get away with things, and

559
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: there is like a level of lying, you know, something

560
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: like that. It's like, all right, not the biggest deal,

561
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: but it's setting the tone for lying, just meaning like

562
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: if it's a small one and you get caught and

563
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: it's a big one that you don't like, or vice versa,

564
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter. It's more just that like why

565
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: waste with like a stupid thing like that, because then

566
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: your trust is gone, whether it's base, well, that's the thing.

567
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: That's why I said to him, I didn't read the

568
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: whole time. I'm pretty much read the whole thing. I

569
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: don't know if you're going to hear the full unedited

570
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: version or not. And that's based on Alison. But you

571
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,239
Speaker 1: know I I said to him, I said, whether it's

572
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes or four hours, it doesn't matter. You blatant leave,

573
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: like basically gave me the middle finger. You know, we

574
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: had this whole conversation. I said, dude, no, you're done

575
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: for the night, and then boom you're back on That

576
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: is a bigger issue, not the actual doing, but the

577
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: breaking of the trust. And I get kids lie, they do,

578
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: it's normal, but how about this be better at it.

579
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: Don't get caught so easily. We all tell little white lies.

580
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: You know, when we were kids, we all try to

581
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: get shit past our parents, even you and the most

582
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: beautiful idyllic lifestyle. You are still, of course drawing a

583
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: party and trying to get shit past your parents normal.

584
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: But when I catch you, it breaks the trust, you know,

585
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: because when bigger things, I want to be able to

586
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: believe you and not be skeptical of my own children,

587
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: you know. And there are some lines that you probably

588
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: let go. Kurt probably and my mom probably knew of

589
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: things that I was doing. But being like, you know what,

590
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: let him do his thing. You know, I know he's

591
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: bullshitting me, but I can't hold my tongue. No, and

592
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: I'm a sleuth. I'm like, I'm gonna I'm gonna find out. Yeah,

593
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it gets complicated. They're in this

594
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, all we have is trust in

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00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: any relationship, really, and you can be wary of that

655
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: trust that happens you can break trust and have to

656
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: earn it back. I know about that. And same with

657
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: your kids, you know, I mean, especially when they break it,

658
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: when there's a big break of trust. But you have

659
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,960
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660
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: out to the world and are going to do the

661
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 1: right thing, or at least totally have it in their head.

662
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: And one thing I'll say, like if thinking back on it,

663
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 1: because I'm I, of course, you know, lied and did

664
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: stuff and high school and all that, but like relatively,

665
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: I was so scared of getting caught and afraid to

666
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: like disappoint my parents. So I look back because I'm

667
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: always like, what did my parents do like to kind

668
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: of create that or establish that relationship? Like why I

669
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: cared what my parents thought? Why I didn't want to

670
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: rebel against them? And you know, I think that's an

671
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: interesting take because if you establish you know, too much

672
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: kind of you know, fear and you know, strict rules

673
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: and this and that, I do think that that can

674
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,479
Speaker 1: lead to rebellion. I mean this is just a total

675
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: general statement. But and then if you're too lenient and

676
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: like just best friends and you know, oh this and

677
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: that they get away with you know kind of too much,

678
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: and then there's almost like a lack of even guidance,

679
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: guidance or caring what you think because if you kind

680
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: of show them that, like you know, so there's that

681
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: fine line I think of creating you know, trust, open,

682
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: you know, communication that wanting to be around and liking

683
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: you a little bit, not being best friends, but like

684
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: liking you enough to kind of want to respect to. Like,

685
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: my parents were really fun and cool and they got

686
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: stuff and we could talk about things and this there

687
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: was a very open communication and we had fun together.

688
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: We did stuff together. But when it came to certain things,

689
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: they were super strict, and that was grades. And I

690
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: was a terrible student, so that didn't go over too well. Yeah,

691
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: but grades are relis tive, Like what does a letter mean?

692
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's what we talk about. But that's

693
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: how you and I think what I'm saying to my parents.

694
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: When I was growing up, report cards and grades were

695
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 1: an effort and all that kind of stuff were very

696
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: important and like you know us, it wasn't like you

697
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: just have to get a's. It was like, are you

698
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: putting in the effort? Are you doing the best you can?

699
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: You do the best you possibly could, and you got

700
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: to see, Okay, that's great. They were like that, but

701
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: they just knew that I wasn't. I was like, you know,

702
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: flirting with boys and you know, being on the phone

703
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: or doing whatever I was doing. I wasn't giving it

704
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: my all. And so that was a big one. Manners

705
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: big one of my for my parents that kind of

706
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: stuff and like honesty. I mean that's pretty much how

707
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: we do it even with our kids. Yeah, oh yeah, totally.

708
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm just saying there was like a few things. Manners

709
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 1: is big. I don't need some like crazy mannered kids

710
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: where it's like, you know, insane. But yeah, I mean

711
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: pleases and thank youse. Of course my make each other engaging. Yes.

712
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: What I hate is when an adult will talk to

713
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: the kid or my kid even at times, and they

714
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: just don't engage and they're looking away and they're like

715
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: that makes one way makes me crazy, and I'm like,

716
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, When someone is talking to you, you

717
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: looked them in the face, and even if it's for

718
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: ten seconds, you are engaging that human being and then

719
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: you can move on, even if you're faking it. Just

720
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: Y's just respect, respect exactly. So there's respect for us.

721
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 1: There's respect for your siblings, you know, there's respect for elders, teachers,

722
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: you know, all that kind of stuff. But also reflects

723
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: it's a selfish thing too, because it reflects on us.

724
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 1: And that's another one. That's what my parents used to

725
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: always say too. It was like, you know, you're if

726
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: we had a party or something they're like, you're putting

727
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: us in danger, you know, or if I got caught

728
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: doing something that reflects badly on us, you know. So

729
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: it was a lot of that, but it wasn't all

730
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: that mattered, right, So, meaning like it I felt that

731
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: and I believed it, rather than that feeling like a

732
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: threat or like well that's all that you care about,

733
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: or you know. It's almost like when things are too extreme,

734
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: no matter what they are on either end of the pendulum,

735
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: it's a little it can be a little too much.

736
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: Your dad was like, listen, pal, the batlet name is

737
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: a very important name. You do not do anything. Just

738
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: smear the batlet name. You understand me, standy pal? Right,

739
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: we've worked had on this name. We came over on

740
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: the fucking Mayflower, Pal, on the fucking Mayflower. You did right?

741
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: How I thought your dad's like relatives or abel answers

742
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: meant me maybe like a Mayflower semi truck. I don't know. Yeah,

743
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: I think some distant relatives. Yeah, we're on there. We've

744
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: got like some sort of yeah, man, you're like a

745
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: first settler. Yeah. Crazy, But anyways, that's that's my point.

746
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: It's almost like there were the parents that you kind

747
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: of want to get away with everything from or you

748
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: think you can. And then there's the parents that were

749
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: just too strict, so it was like always being scared.

750
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a fine line of balance with everything,

751
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: I think. And then also goes back to even you know,

752
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: with little kids, toddlers whatever, follow through, meaning it's like

753
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: if you yell at everything or you get mad at everything,

754
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 1: there's nothing clear there for them, it's just a big

755
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: blur of kind of nose and can't do's, and it's

756
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: almost like all right, there's a little it's a gray area.

757
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: Whereas if you're cool with most things, but then you

758
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: lose your shit on one or two important things, they

759
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: really know the difference of what's important where not to

760
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, push the bounce or whatever. Yeah. And then

761
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: also just it's the hardest thing I think in parenting

762
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: or one of them, like that was a big general statement,

763
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: but I think it's really hard to stick to your

764
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: word and follow through because usually it fucks with you.

765
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: It fucks with you, so you're suffering world screws of

766
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: your day, screws of your week, whatever it might be.

767
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: So that's I think my most parents are like I'm

768
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: just going to give in. But for me, well, I

769
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: don't know if we've talked about it on the show,

770
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: but like, you know, you you were the queen of

771
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: that for a while and you did one you did

772
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: one threat that was so funny. You remember we talked

773
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 1: about it was it was like it was like milk Streets.

774
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: It was like late November, early December, and the kids

775
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: are being nuts and whatever, and Aaron, you know, just

776
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: snaps loses in and just screaming and just give you.

777
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: They'll get your sass is in the seat or whatever

778
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: it is. You know, if you don't do this, then

779
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: there's gonna be no Christmas. Yes, And I look over

780
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I think I was in the passenger seat,

781
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what do you mean it's gonna be

782
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: no Christmas? Like we can't follow through with no Christmas?

783
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: That's not a possibility, Like how do we do this

784
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: right out? I know? So that was definitely a stretch.

785
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: I was just so angry and there are those things

786
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: in the moment and then you gotta take it back.

787
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: But I will say, like a couple people that I know,

788
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: One is Robin Berman, who's an author, and she wrote

789
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 1: this incredible book and I gotta remember the name unparenting.

790
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a must have. But and she

791
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: talks about follow through because what I think is so

792
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: interesting about it speaking about trust and I'm probably going

793
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: to chop this all up, but it's in a weird way.

794
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: Kids don't realize it, but subconsciously, when you do follow

795
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: through or you don't, it creates trust. So meaning if

796
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: you follow through and you stick by your word, good

797
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: or bad. Obviously most of the time it's bad when

798
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: you're punishing, but it's it's trust. It's earning trust that

799
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: like you, when you say something, you mean it, and

800
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: that will kind of trickle down into other areas, whereas

801
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 1: if you don't you know, and you kind of give

802
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: in or you you know, the kids are smart, they

803
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: know that kind of stuff, and then there it's literally

804
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: kind of messing up with them just in trust in

805
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: the long run the bigger picture, if that makes sense.

806
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly how was said, but is she

807
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: the one who has Is it the Disneyland story right

808
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: where they drove all the way there and then they're like, oh,

809
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: fuck it, like yelling at the kids doing it, and

810
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: they threatened they were on their way to Disneyland, and

811
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: they threatened to leave and not go to Disneyland and

812
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: the kids. I think at one point in the story

813
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: it was really like you're not going to turn around

814
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: or you know, something like for the third time or

815
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: one of those. And she looked at the husband. I mean,

816
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: they'd like taken off the day from work, bought the

817
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: dakets and everything, and they turned around and left snarly.

818
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: And she says the daughter came to this like seminar

819
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: that I was at, grown up like college graduate and

820
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: told the story and she said, we were in so

821
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 1: much shock, like no one's talked the whole entire way back.

822
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: She's like, I think I cried and the whole thing.

823
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: She's like, but it was like a defining moment in

824
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: our family dynamic because they were like, holy shit, A,

825
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: they mean business. B. We got to respect them, you know,

826
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: and it works in the long run. And then you know,

827
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: my bestie Angie, when she had her little son, she

828
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: took away Halloween when all I was little, and it

829
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: was like totally you know, huge for her, and she

830
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: was like heartbroke and she was crying. She's like, I

831
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: have to follow through but it's like devastating, but you know,

832
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: it was a big one and I remember being like, wow,

833
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: you're braver than me, and it was awesome. I mean,

834
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: they just you know, there's those defining moments that do

835
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: kind of create whatever it might be in the long term.

836
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: You know, you don't realize it. All right, we got

837
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: to wrap it up. I gotta okay, I gotta watch

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers game. But okay, I love you, and I

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Speaker 1: think this is our I think this is our last

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Speaker 1: podcast on Okay, no forever. Well, I hope I come back.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'll come back. No, this is what I'm saying, Like, no,

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Speaker 1: I know that, but I'm saying, yeah, yeah, I want

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Speaker 1: to do our own I have fun. I've had fun

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Speaker 1: with you on this run, and we have some great

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Speaker 1: ideas too. By the way, Yeah, what we've been doing

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Speaker 1: in the last however many episodes we've done, is very

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Speaker 1: nonstructured and sort of what the hell was that? Sorry?

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Speaker 1: I guess are you watching Instagram while I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: wrap this up. I just got sent something and I

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Speaker 1: saw it and it was like played loud music, Jackie,

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Speaker 1: just missing my text. So you decided to look at

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Speaker 1: the text from Jackie hold On and she sent you

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Speaker 1: a video and in the middle of my outro, you

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Speaker 1: just decided to push play. I honestly wasn't I didn't

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Speaker 1: mean to, but then I saw it and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I gotta click got it? Wow, that's crazy. You were

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Speaker 1: like wrapping up, you were talking. Okay, Well, uh, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna hear more of those interruptions. We're trying to come

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Speaker 1: up with the name. We have a good couple of

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Speaker 1: good ones. Yeah, I like mine, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We'll see and I don't know. I'm well, thanks for

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Speaker 1: filling in. I love it, and I want to get

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Speaker 1: more audience involvement because I think that's super fun. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, right before you interrupted me with that video,

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Speaker 1: I was saying that are you talking to me? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to you. What I'm saying is is that

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Speaker 1: it was very unstructured fly by the seat of your pants, right,

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Speaker 1: which I love. But I think we're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: little bit more structure. Not crazy. We're in the middle. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's like weekly check in, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, but maybe just more of like

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Speaker 1: a specific top getting more into detailed topics. Mainly you

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Speaker 1: and I, but having some guests on when they really

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Speaker 1: matter or mean something to surprise guests. Yeah yeah. And

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Speaker 1: then having some sort of you know, game or something

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Speaker 1: that's fun in the middle or the end, a couple

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Speaker 1: of listener engagement, maybe even like hotline stuff, maybe some

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Speaker 1: live stuff. Yeah, you know, we're actually I would be

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Speaker 1: having conversations with people anyway. I love you, Thank you

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Speaker 1: for filling in, Thanks for having me. Sibling. Revelry is

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Speaker 1: executive produced by Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson. Producer is Alison.

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Speaker 1: President editor is Josh Wendish. Music by Mark Hudson aka

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