WEBVTT - Hell and Gone Murder Line: Shannon Lee Collins 0:00:08.245 --> 0:00:16.685 School of Humans. On March eleventh, twenty twenty one, Shannon 0:00:16.725 --> 0:00:20.005 Lee Collins, a forty eight year old veteran, came back 0:00:20.045 --> 0:00:23.005 from a work trip to his home in Pottsville, Arkansas. 0:00:23.645 --> 0:00:26.645 He was working a part time job delivering packages, which 0:00:26.685 --> 0:00:30.845 sometimes took him on the road out of state. Shannon 0:00:30.885 --> 0:00:32.925 had been married to his wife, Teresa for more than 0:00:32.965 --> 0:00:36.525 twenty years, and they raised their family together. They had 0:00:36.565 --> 0:00:39.245 their son, Josh, who was in his early twenties, and 0:00:39.325 --> 0:00:43.445 Shannon's stepdaughter, Brittany, who was in her early thirties. But 0:00:43.565 --> 0:00:46.325 Shannon had raised Brittany since she was very young and 0:00:46.645 --> 0:00:49.165 been a father figure to her. They were a close 0:00:49.245 --> 0:00:53.405 family in general. They attended a local church, Russellville First Assembly, 0:00:53.725 --> 0:00:57.605 and were very active in their church community. And Yet, 0:00:57.725 --> 0:01:01.525 after March eleventh, twenty twenty one, when Shannon Collins walked 0:01:01.565 --> 0:01:04.365 into his family home in Pottsville that he shared with 0:01:04.405 --> 0:01:08.445 his wife, son and sie stepdaughter, he seemed to vanish 0:01:08.485 --> 0:01:12.565 into thin air, and no one has seen Shannon Collin 0:01:12.765 --> 0:01:17.565 since then. How could a veteran just disappear and why 0:01:17.765 --> 0:01:21.765 did no one report him missing for nine months? I'm 0:01:21.845 --> 0:01:25.165 Catherine Townsend. Over the past five years of making my 0:01:25.165 --> 0:01:28.365 true crime podcast, Helen Gone. 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They also have a younger sister named Holly. 0:02:58.525 --> 0:03:00.725 We've then moved from the base Ville area to the 0:03:00.805 --> 0:03:06.885 Russellville area, which is northwest Arkansas. Hoopville little town, small 0:03:06.885 --> 0:03:10.645 community outside of Russellville. We lived there until I was 0:03:10.685 --> 0:03:14.285 the age eight to around thirteen, and then we moved 0:03:14.525 --> 0:03:16.765 closer to the Little Rock area. And I say that 0:03:17.165 --> 0:03:19.325 because at that time my brother is five or sixt 0:03:19.405 --> 0:03:22.045 years older than me, so he actually went to high 0:03:22.045 --> 0:03:25.605 school in the Russellville area. He basically built his roots 0:03:25.645 --> 0:03:28.805 in that area. He has lived where he has for 0:03:28.885 --> 0:03:32.805 quite some time when he disappeared because of those routs 0:03:32.845 --> 0:03:35.525 and those connections to where he went to high school. 0:03:36.565 --> 0:03:40.165 Blake clarified that Shannon loved that little town so much 0:03:40.645 --> 0:03:43.325 that even when he enlisted in the military, he would 0:03:43.365 --> 0:03:46.525 make a seventy mile daily commute from Pottsville to the 0:03:46.525 --> 0:03:48.485 base in North Little Rock where he was stationed, just 0:03:48.605 --> 0:03:50.765 so that he would not have to leave the Pottsville area. 0:03:52.125 --> 0:03:54.605 He served in the military for twenty four years in 0:03:54.645 --> 0:03:58.245 the Army National Guard. Eventually he attained the rank of 0:03:58.285 --> 0:04:02.325 Sergeant Major SGM. Then, due to an injury, he received 0:04:02.325 --> 0:04:06.645 a medical discharge. This made him eligible for VA disability payments. 0:04:08.045 --> 0:04:12.645 Before his military service, Shannon attended Arkansas Tech University, the 0:04:12.685 --> 0:04:16.845 same university as his wife, Teresa. Teresa grew up in 0:04:16.885 --> 0:04:20.565 the small town of Delaware, Arkansas. She and Shannon had 0:04:20.565 --> 0:04:23.685 another property there near where Teresa's family lived that was 0:04:23.685 --> 0:04:28.765 on about twenty acres of land. Blake, Shannon's brother moved 0:04:28.765 --> 0:04:31.685 to Austin in twenty twelve, so he didn't have as 0:04:31.725 --> 0:04:34.525 much close contact with Shannon and Teresa. Over the past 0:04:34.605 --> 0:04:38.165 decade as the rest of his family, but he said 0:04:38.165 --> 0:04:40.925 that from what he could see, his brother was close 0:04:40.965 --> 0:04:46.765 to his wife, his son, and his stepdaughter. In twenty twenty, 0:04:46.925 --> 0:04:50.565 COVID hit hard and in many parts of the country 0:04:50.965 --> 0:04:54.925 people were under lockdown orders. Even family members living in 0:04:54.965 --> 0:04:57.725 the same area found it hard to maintain contact during 0:04:57.725 --> 0:05:01.725 that time. I remember that weeks felt like long days, 0:05:02.405 --> 0:05:05.125 and it made family members living across the country even 0:05:05.165 --> 0:05:08.925 more i Blake said that his father was battling cancer, 0:05:09.045 --> 0:05:11.925 so both he and their mother were in a high 0:05:12.005 --> 0:05:14.965 risk category. They were told by their doctors not to 0:05:14.965 --> 0:05:18.845 go out in public unless absolutely necessary, so they told 0:05:18.885 --> 0:05:21.325 Shannon they wouldn't be able to go to his stepdaughter's 0:05:21.365 --> 0:05:26.405 wedding that was in December of twenty twenty. Blake said 0:05:26.525 --> 0:05:29.605 Shannon was upset, and Shannon made a comment to his 0:05:29.645 --> 0:05:32.245 mother something along the lines of if they didn't show 0:05:32.325 --> 0:05:34.765 up to the wedding, she should not bother trying to 0:05:34.805 --> 0:05:38.565 talk to him again. Blake explained his parents knew that 0:05:38.605 --> 0:05:41.925 Shannon was annoyed, but they also knew his nature. They 0:05:42.005 --> 0:05:45.165 knew he would get over it. Before this argument, he 0:05:45.285 --> 0:05:48.125 usually talked to his parents multiple times per week. On 0:05:48.165 --> 0:05:51.685 the phone. He would also regularly talk to his sister Holly. 0:05:52.885 --> 0:05:55.965 But when Blake and Holly and everyone else in the 0:05:55.965 --> 0:05:59.205 family had not heard from Shannon for weeks and then months, 0:06:00.125 --> 0:06:04.565 Shannon's parents and everyone else started to get worried. Remember, 0:06:04.925 --> 0:06:07.645 Shannon had been working part time at a delivery job. 0:06:08.285 --> 0:06:11.965 This involved driving to deliver items, sometimes out of state, 0:06:12.445 --> 0:06:16.325 and sometimes these trips would last a few days. And 0:06:16.485 --> 0:06:19.325 on that last work trip, the one that ended on 0:06:19.405 --> 0:06:23.765 March eleventh, twenty twenty one, Shannon had another reason for 0:06:23.845 --> 0:06:28.765 going out of town. He had a girlfriend, and his wife, Teresa, 0:06:29.325 --> 0:06:35.245 knew all about it. I asked Blake about Shannon's relationship 0:06:35.285 --> 0:06:38.565 with Teresa, his wife. Blake said that over the years, 0:06:38.685 --> 0:06:41.485 his family was close to Teresa. He said they watched 0:06:41.525 --> 0:06:44.725 her children grow up, both her son with Shannon and 0:06:44.765 --> 0:06:48.085 his stepdaughter, who again he raised from a very young age. 0:06:48.565 --> 0:06:51.325 Our perspective is if they had a good relationship. Not 0:06:51.365 --> 0:06:54.165 only did they have good relationship, but my brother had 0:06:54.205 --> 0:06:58.525 an extremely good relationship with his only son and his stepdaughter. 0:06:58.645 --> 0:07:02.565 So again I talked in the story about the fact 0:07:02.605 --> 0:07:04.845 that he had decided that he was going to read 0:07:04.925 --> 0:07:07.725 his wife and that she was well aware of that. 0:07:07.925 --> 0:07:12.085 But the relationship itself over the years that we saw overall, 0:07:12.285 --> 0:07:14.965 we felt it was good. There were things that we 0:07:15.045 --> 0:07:22.085 saw it within her possessiveness, traits, jealousy, we saw those things. 0:07:22.525 --> 0:07:26.445 But outside of seeing that, I mean, if from the 0:07:26.485 --> 0:07:28.925 outside looking in, I think anyone would have said they 0:07:28.965 --> 0:07:30.805 felt like they had a pretty good relationship. 0:07:31.605 --> 0:07:35.965 But eventually, according to Blake, Shannon started telling family members 0:07:35.965 --> 0:07:39.325 that his marriage was not working and that he planned 0:07:39.325 --> 0:07:42.965 to leave Teresa. Now Blake is clear about the fact 0:07:43.045 --> 0:07:46.525 this was not a secret. This was something Shannon discussed 0:07:46.525 --> 0:07:49.685 with him and with other family members, and as evidence 0:07:49.685 --> 0:07:51.965 will show, with his wife Teresa. 0:07:52.445 --> 0:07:55.165 He had not only told us that that, he informed 0:07:55.245 --> 0:07:57.805 us that he had told her that, So she was 0:07:57.845 --> 0:08:02.085 well aware of that to our understanding, And we know 0:08:02.285 --> 0:08:05.045 that he was saying that he wanted to wait until 0:08:05.085 --> 0:08:07.805 his son graduating college, that he wanted him to have 0:08:07.885 --> 0:08:10.685 a good footing, and he wanted to make sure he 0:08:10.765 --> 0:08:14.205 was okay before he made that decision. I mean, this 0:08:14.285 --> 0:08:17.085 is a big decision to make, and like I said, 0:08:17.125 --> 0:08:19.045 that was their only son, so he was trying to 0:08:19.085 --> 0:08:22.605 do right by his son. And so I think he 0:08:22.765 --> 0:08:25.765 had maybe a year year and a half before he 0:08:25.845 --> 0:08:29.765 graduated college, so she was well aware of it before 0:08:29.885 --> 0:08:30.725 he disappeared. 0:08:31.805 --> 0:08:35.005 The point that Teresa knew about Shannon wanting to end 0:08:35.005 --> 0:08:39.245 their marriage before is extremely important in my opinion. So 0:08:39.445 --> 0:08:41.805 I asked Blake if he was sure that his brother 0:08:41.885 --> 0:08:44.525 Shannon told Teresa about his plans to end the marriage, 0:08:45.005 --> 0:08:48.285 because if she didn't know, that would obviously potentially be 0:08:48.325 --> 0:08:52.445 shocking news. If we're looking at victimology, any big change 0:08:52.485 --> 0:08:54.605 in life is something we would definitely want to consider. 0:08:55.445 --> 0:08:58.525 But Blake says he has spoken multiple times to the police, 0:08:59.085 --> 0:09:01.965 and through what they have told him, he has learned 0:09:02.005 --> 0:09:06.205 that Shannon's wife, Teresa, allegedly had already consulted several divorce 0:09:06.285 --> 0:09:08.605 lawyers in the area before Shannon disappeared. 0:09:09.005 --> 0:09:13.685 She had actually contacted divorce lawyers, So I think she 0:09:13.845 --> 0:09:17.525 might have done that to I guess because to protect 0:09:17.565 --> 0:09:22.205 the relationship. If someone reaches out to a divorce attorney, 0:09:22.085 --> 0:09:25.005 my understanding is that once one individual does that, the 0:09:25.045 --> 0:09:27.685 other individual in the relationship can't use that attorney to 0:09:27.725 --> 0:09:30.525 do to a conflict aventsiist. We don't know if that's 0:09:30.565 --> 0:09:32.965 why she did it, but to our understanding, she reached 0:09:32.965 --> 0:09:36.885 out to two or three different divorce lawyers not long 0:09:36.965 --> 0:09:38.245 before he disappeared. 0:09:38.965 --> 0:09:42.365 When Shannon's family started not hearing from him, they of 0:09:42.445 --> 0:09:46.125 course reached out and talked to Teresa. Blake said when 0:09:46.165 --> 0:09:49.205 his sister Holly and his family asked Teresa about Shannon, 0:09:49.645 --> 0:09:53.685 she would tell them he wasn't around. At first, Blake 0:09:53.765 --> 0:09:57.165 said he believed Teresa, remember he had known her for 0:09:57.245 --> 0:09:59.925 over twenty years. He had been close to her family 0:10:00.005 --> 0:10:03.645 and watched her children grow up. But the family knew 0:10:03.685 --> 0:10:07.765 something was wrong because Shannon was, in Blake's words, a talker, 0:10:08.445 --> 0:10:12.125 not a texter. Blake was clear that his brother preferred 0:10:12.165 --> 0:10:14.685 to talk on the phone, and if Shannon missed a call, 0:10:14.765 --> 0:10:18.205 his pattern was to call back promptly to chat, even 0:10:18.285 --> 0:10:21.005 during the time when he wasn't speaking to his parents 0:10:21.605 --> 0:10:24.365 around the time of his stepdaughter's wedding. From late twenty 0:10:24.365 --> 0:10:27.325 twenty until March of twenty twenty one, when Shannon disappeared, 0:10:27.885 --> 0:10:31.365 he was still talking to his sister Holly fairly regularly, 0:10:32.245 --> 0:10:36.445 and he was talking to and texting Blake. Then came 0:10:36.485 --> 0:10:42.445 that fateful night March eleventh, twenty twenty one. Police had 0:10:42.485 --> 0:10:45.045 been talking to Blake and they have confirmed some facts 0:10:45.085 --> 0:10:48.165 to him. Blake said that they had figured out through 0:10:48.245 --> 0:10:52.645 electronic data police had verified Shannon did return from that 0:10:52.725 --> 0:10:55.845 work trip. He flew into the Little Rock Airport, where 0:10:55.845 --> 0:10:58.845 he had a car parked. He drove home and entered 0:10:58.845 --> 0:11:03.725 his house at around ten pm that night. That evening, Shannon, 0:11:03.885 --> 0:11:06.685 his son, and his wife, Teresa were all in the home. 0:11:07.125 --> 0:11:10.885 Police also confirmed Shannon's stepdaughter came to the residence the 0:11:10.925 --> 0:11:15.125 next morning. That morning, March twelfth, Shannon was scheduled to 0:11:15.205 --> 0:11:19.205 drive another delivery for the company, but he never showed 0:11:19.285 --> 0:11:23.085 up for that delivery. The last time Blake and Hally 0:11:23.205 --> 0:11:26.605 heard from Shannon was around the end of February twenty 0:11:26.645 --> 0:11:30.125 twenty one. They had both sent texts and heard back, 0:11:30.805 --> 0:11:34.005 but after March of twenty twenty one, all they got 0:11:34.085 --> 0:11:39.565 was radio silence. Eventually, in or around April of twenty 0:11:39.565 --> 0:11:42.565 twenty one, Teresa started telling Blake and the rest of 0:11:42.565 --> 0:11:47.365 the family that Shannon had, in her words, quote, walked 0:11:47.365 --> 0:11:51.605 out on the family end quote. Now, even though Blake 0:11:51.685 --> 0:11:55.525 was suspicious because it was not like Shannon to not 0:11:55.565 --> 0:11:57.525 respond to calls or text and he had not heard 0:11:57.525 --> 0:12:00.045 from him in a while, at first he thought, well, 0:12:00.205 --> 0:12:03.725 maybe that's plausible, after all, Shannon had said he was 0:12:03.765 --> 0:12:06.725 going to leave his wife. So Blake continued to reach 0:12:06.725 --> 0:12:10.205 out to his brother with no success. When Blake's sister 0:12:10.285 --> 0:12:14.925 Holly spoke to Teresa, Teresa again told her Shannon had 0:12:14.925 --> 0:12:19.325 walked away from the family, and now Teresa allegedly told 0:12:19.365 --> 0:12:23.445 them and police that Shannon had left on foot, but 0:12:23.565 --> 0:12:28.045 Shannon's stepdaughter allegedly told Holly that Shannon drove away. That's 0:12:28.085 --> 0:12:30.565 when Blake started to suspect something else was going on. 0:12:31.005 --> 0:12:35.685 Blake wondered, why would they allegedly be telling two different stories, 0:12:36.205 --> 0:12:36.965 so even. 0:12:36.845 --> 0:12:40.925 After all that time passed, they still had two inconsistent stories. 0:12:40.965 --> 0:12:44.005 They tell us the same story they tell the police. 0:12:44.085 --> 0:12:46.365 But the only problem is that both two completely different 0:12:46.445 --> 0:12:49.085 stories of how he left on March twelve, twenty twenty one. 0:12:50.885 --> 0:12:53.165 By this time, according to Blake, as months went on, 0:12:53.805 --> 0:12:56.525 Shannon's wife began to say Shannon had been on pain 0:12:56.605 --> 0:13:00.365 medications and may have been confused. She also said that 0:13:00.725 --> 0:13:04.285 he had checked himself into a mental hospital. Blake was 0:13:04.325 --> 0:13:07.525 increasingly concerned that something might have happened to his brother. 0:13:08.165 --> 0:13:13.005 Shannon was not reported missing until November thirtieth, twenty twenty one, 0:13:13.085 --> 0:13:16.565 and it was Blake, not Shannon's wife or anyone in 0:13:16.605 --> 0:13:20.525 his immediate family, who reported him missing. So naturally, a 0:13:20.565 --> 0:13:23.605 lot of people wondered, why did it take nine months? 0:13:23.645 --> 0:13:28.445 Why did no one report this man missing. Blake said 0:13:28.485 --> 0:13:32.525 that for all those months, Teresa told his family Shannon 0:13:32.605 --> 0:13:38.205 was still in touch with them. Then things got even weirder. Suddenly, 0:13:38.325 --> 0:13:42.285 Shannon's wife, Teresa, told police that Shannon had gotten a 0:13:42.325 --> 0:13:45.685 new cell phone number, one that his siblings and parents 0:13:45.725 --> 0:13:49.565 were not aware of, and that Shannon was supposedly contacting Teresa, 0:13:49.885 --> 0:13:53.725 calling and texting from that cell phone, not the original number, 0:13:53.765 --> 0:13:56.445 which Blake said that Shannon had had for more than 0:13:56.445 --> 0:13:57.125 twenty years. 0:13:57.485 --> 0:14:01.205 Something doesn't sound like. Then we all of a sudden 0:14:01.285 --> 0:14:06.245 hear about this new phone, and so that a few 0:14:06.285 --> 0:14:11.525 months later, my sister tells my brother's stepdaughter, are you 0:14:11.725 --> 0:14:14.405 saying that Shannon is calling you from a new phone? 0:14:14.605 --> 0:14:17.565 Is that what you're saying? And they have a conversation 0:14:17.645 --> 0:14:21.125 about this new phone that had mysteriously popped up. 0:14:22.525 --> 0:14:26.205 In the only interview that Shannon's wife did with the police, 0:14:26.245 --> 0:14:29.725 Blake heard that text messages from this new phone were 0:14:29.765 --> 0:14:33.365 allegedly sent to the phones of Shannon's son and Teresa. 0:14:34.925 --> 0:14:39.325 But then police discovered the person who bought this new 0:14:39.365 --> 0:14:43.325 cell phone that Shannon was supposedly using was Teresa. 0:14:43.765 --> 0:14:46.725 They know that she purchases the cell phone, and they 0:14:46.765 --> 0:14:50.325 know that these text messages are coming from the phone 0:14:50.325 --> 0:14:53.405 that she fought, So she's trying to make it look 0:14:53.445 --> 0:14:55.845 as if my brother is sending these text messages, but 0:14:55.925 --> 0:14:57.445 she's the one who has the phone. 0:14:57.805 --> 0:15:01.125 That's Blake's working theory that Teresa is the one sending 0:15:01.125 --> 0:15:05.605 messages from this phone posing as Shannon. Blake said that 0:15:05.885 --> 0:15:08.485 once he got the police involved in his brother's disappearance, 0:15:09.005 --> 0:15:12.485 since that day, Teresa and her children have never talked 0:15:12.525 --> 0:15:16.085 to him or the rest of his family again. Detectives 0:15:16.085 --> 0:15:19.685 got a search warrant. They searched Shannon's family home, but 0:15:19.725 --> 0:15:21.685 there's been no report of what they found. 0:15:22.365 --> 0:15:26.045 I do know that they took some electronic devices, which 0:15:26.125 --> 0:15:27.725 I believe they were able to glean a lot of 0:15:27.765 --> 0:15:31.485 additional evidence from. But I don't know outside of some 0:15:31.605 --> 0:15:34.525 electronic devices, I don't know when all the they did. 0:15:35.005 --> 0:15:38.645 I know that they did some searches in the property, 0:15:38.845 --> 0:15:42.325 the out backyard that the properties about an acre. The 0:15:42.365 --> 0:15:45.685 backyard was pretty close to being an acre, and I 0:15:45.805 --> 0:15:48.845 know that they had some cadaverdogs and did some searches 0:15:48.885 --> 0:15:52.325 in the backyard. I don't know all the details. What 0:15:52.365 --> 0:15:55.365 I do know is that there were good averdogs that 0:15:55.565 --> 0:15:59.085 did have a hit on something in the backyard that 0:15:59.165 --> 0:16:02.645 I don't know any specifics, but I know that, and 0:16:02.725 --> 0:16:06.845 I know that could averdogs were also hitting on and 0:16:06.885 --> 0:16:09.485 I won't say the type, but I know it a 0:16:09.605 --> 0:16:13.765 vehicle at their property outside of town the twenty eighth 0:16:13.765 --> 0:16:16.525 for property, there was a vehicle at that property that 0:16:16.605 --> 0:16:20.165 canaverdogs hit on as well. So I'm no expert when 0:16:20.165 --> 0:16:23.365 it comes to canaverdogs, but it sure is telling that 0:16:23.885 --> 0:16:27.885 those dogs hit on two different sins in two different places. 0:16:30.925 --> 0:16:33.285 I have reached out to the Pope County Sheriff's Department. 0:16:33.325 --> 0:16:36.725 We've done a freedom of information request in addition to that. 0:16:37.045 --> 0:16:41.565 Police have publicly confirmed some details of this case, but 0:16:41.645 --> 0:16:44.165 they have not yet replied to requests for comment on 0:16:44.205 --> 0:16:47.885 the search, so I'm still working to confirm these details. 0:16:48.965 --> 0:16:53.125 Around June or July of twenty twenty one, Teresa said 0:16:53.165 --> 0:16:56.125 that Shannon was texting from this new phone number, and 0:16:56.285 --> 0:16:59.605 according to Blake, the story continued to kind of morph 0:16:59.685 --> 0:17:03.685 because she allegedly said at first that Shannon was calling 0:17:03.725 --> 0:17:07.485 and texting. Then she's said Shannon was only communicating with 0:17:07.525 --> 0:17:12.285 her via text. Blake said he did not believe that because, 0:17:12.445 --> 0:17:16.205 as we said before, his brother was a talker. He 0:17:16.325 --> 0:17:18.925 just did not have a habit of communicating like that 0:17:19.045 --> 0:17:23.565 only by text. And Blake also believed if Shannon did 0:17:23.565 --> 0:17:25.285 have a new phone number, why would he not call 0:17:25.325 --> 0:17:27.405 the rest of his family and let them know that. 0:17:27.885 --> 0:17:30.565 If he was able to call Teresa, why couldn't he 0:17:30.645 --> 0:17:33.125 call them? None of it seemed to make any sense. 0:17:34.685 --> 0:17:37.765 And then there was another twist. Because Shannon is a veteran, 0:17:38.245 --> 0:17:41.365 he was eligible for disability payments, so he got about 0:17:41.365 --> 0:17:44.565 four thousand dollars a month. These funds were being paid 0:17:44.605 --> 0:17:48.605 into a bank account until Blake reported Shannon missing in November. 0:17:49.085 --> 0:17:53.085 That money kept dropping into that bank account. Now would 0:17:53.125 --> 0:17:56.525 a veteran who has a history of needing medical care 0:17:57.165 --> 0:18:00.445 voluntarily leave thousands of dollars per month untouched? 0:18:01.245 --> 0:18:03.965 Two weeks after reboarded Missing in the River twenty twenty one, 0:18:04.005 --> 0:18:07.205 bus payments were cut off. He's never had those famous 0:18:07.205 --> 0:18:09.685 turnback on. All he had to do is walking in 0:18:09.765 --> 0:18:12.725 ANYVA facility in the country, show an ID and those 0:18:12.725 --> 0:18:15.965 payments will immediately he turned back on. At this point 0:18:16.005 --> 0:18:18.165 it would be about one hundred thousand dollars in arrears 0:18:18.245 --> 0:18:21.485 that he would receive, not to mention the paint going forward, 0:18:21.565 --> 0:18:24.085 and he's never wants done that. And unfortunately, I think 0:18:24.125 --> 0:18:25.405 we know my ad done that. 0:18:26.125 --> 0:18:30.725 Shannon had medical prescriptions and regularly saw a doctor. He 0:18:30.805 --> 0:18:34.685 had insurance through the VA. And yet since Shannon disappeared, 0:18:35.045 --> 0:18:38.085 his bank account has not been touched. He hasn't used 0:18:38.085 --> 0:18:40.725 any credit cards, he hasn't used his old cell phone, 0:18:41.085 --> 0:18:43.325 and he has not kept his medical appointments. 0:18:43.805 --> 0:18:46.325 He did have prescriptions, I don't know what they were. 0:18:46.685 --> 0:18:49.045 I know that he had had surgeries in the past. 0:18:49.285 --> 0:18:53.005 He had a scheduled surgery that was coming up after 0:18:53.045 --> 0:18:55.645 he disappeared. He never shows up for the surgery. He 0:18:55.725 --> 0:18:59.845 never rebuilt any prescriptions, never goes to a doctor at all. 0:19:00.205 --> 0:19:03.565 But again, what's interesting about that. One of the text 0:19:03.605 --> 0:19:07.205 messages that my brother's wife said ends state something to 0:19:07.245 --> 0:19:09.965 the effect that he has checked himself into a mental 0:19:10.005 --> 0:19:13.645 hospital and he's needing help and he's trying to get 0:19:13.645 --> 0:19:17.565 his mind right, and he will let him know when 0:19:17.605 --> 0:19:20.125 he's okay. Well, of course we know. The police have 0:19:20.445 --> 0:19:24.285 checked every VA facility. My brother had helped her through 0:19:24.325 --> 0:19:27.845 the VA. Never has been checked into a hospital, never 0:19:27.925 --> 0:19:31.645 been to a doctor, no prescriptions, no surgeries, nothing. So again, 0:19:31.885 --> 0:19:35.685 yet another lie from his life from this cell phone 0:19:35.725 --> 0:19:39.005 that she purchased with the text message trying to pose 0:19:39.085 --> 0:19:39.685 as my brother. 0:19:49.845 --> 0:19:53.965 Blake never met Shannon's girlfriend. He says he doesn't even 0:19:53.965 --> 0:19:57.525 know who she is, but police have confirmed that she 0:19:57.605 --> 0:20:01.285 lives in Tennessee. Blake says she has cooperated with police 0:20:01.365 --> 0:20:05.325 as far as he knows. Blake said he is extremely 0:20:05.565 --> 0:20:08.885 grateful for the public support he's received and for everyone 0:20:08.925 --> 0:20:12.485 sharing his story, but he said that since he went 0:20:12.525 --> 0:20:16.725 public and created the Facebook page Share Shannon's Story, some 0:20:16.805 --> 0:20:19.485 of the comments have been hard for him to read, 0:20:20.285 --> 0:20:23.565 and he takes issue with people who have made online 0:20:23.605 --> 0:20:27.245 comments about his brother. People who were saying things like hell, 0:20:27.285 --> 0:20:30.325 hath no fury like a woman scorned, or when you 0:20:30.365 --> 0:20:32.285 play with fire, you get burned, that kind of thing. 0:20:33.325 --> 0:20:35.725 Some people seem to be implying that because Shannon had 0:20:35.725 --> 0:20:40.005 had another relationship, that he somehow deserved what happened to him. 0:20:40.725 --> 0:20:44.605 There have been people that have made comments about my 0:20:44.765 --> 0:20:50.245 brother and infidelities and the I guess trying to portray 0:20:50.325 --> 0:20:52.885 him as a bad guy. And I want to be 0:20:52.885 --> 0:20:56.645 completely transparent. My brother was not perfect, just like any 0:20:56.685 --> 0:20:59.405 of us, and he had his flags. But when you 0:20:59.485 --> 0:21:04.045 hear the relationship and where he was headed in full context, 0:21:04.285 --> 0:21:08.005 it's a completely different story than just he was a 0:21:08.085 --> 0:21:10.765 cheating husband on his wife, because that's not the case. 0:21:10.845 --> 0:21:13.805 I mean, he had made this decision, They had had 0:21:13.885 --> 0:21:15.805 their ups and downs. I guess I don't know all 0:21:15.805 --> 0:21:17.685 the ins and out in the relationship, but it was 0:21:17.765 --> 0:21:20.165 quite obvious that he felt like or it was time 0:21:20.405 --> 0:21:23.725 to move on. So this idea that he was doing 0:21:23.765 --> 0:21:26.365 something that she wasn't aware of is completely false. And 0:21:26.405 --> 0:21:29.085 again I'm not trying to make excuses for my brother. 0:21:29.405 --> 0:21:31.565 I'm not saying that what he did was okay. I'm 0:21:31.565 --> 0:21:34.685 just saying there's a vast difference between what my brother 0:21:34.805 --> 0:21:37.485 was doing and how ed informed his wife that he 0:21:37.525 --> 0:21:40.485 wanted to leave versus other scenarios. 0:21:40.525 --> 0:21:42.925 But even if he did tell her whatever he was doing, 0:21:42.925 --> 0:21:46.125 nobody deserves to be nobody to be killed. 0:21:46.165 --> 0:21:47.125 I mean, it doesn't matter. 0:21:46.965 --> 0:21:51.285 What Blake has said. He would love to talk to 0:21:51.325 --> 0:21:55.205 Shannon's girlfriend. He wants to compare notes. He would love 0:21:55.285 --> 0:21:58.765 to know if she has any useful information. Again, I 0:21:58.805 --> 0:22:02.165 want to say this woman has cooperated law enforcement and 0:22:02.205 --> 0:22:04.925 there is absolutely no suggestion she knew anything about what 0:22:04.925 --> 0:22:08.565 happened to Shane. In fact, according to Blake, he believes 0:22:08.805 --> 0:22:11.565 that Shannon's girlfriend was shocked when he didn't get in 0:22:11.605 --> 0:22:13.885 touch with her. They had just been a week together. 0:22:14.285 --> 0:22:16.805 They were serious about each other from all accounts, but 0:22:16.965 --> 0:22:19.965 when Shannon stopped talking to this woman, there may have 0:22:20.005 --> 0:22:22.365 been some part of her that thought maybe she got ghosted, 0:22:22.485 --> 0:22:25.205 or that maybe Shannon changed his mind. By the way, 0:22:25.245 --> 0:22:27.525 that must be a very hard position to be in. 0:22:28.005 --> 0:22:31.485 I'm sure she asked herself should I call the police? 0:22:31.685 --> 0:22:34.285 And that must have been a hard call because technically 0:22:34.365 --> 0:22:37.925 Shannon was married to someone else. I don't know her story, 0:22:38.085 --> 0:22:40.245 but I will say that must have been a very 0:22:40.245 --> 0:22:41.765 difficult situation to be in. 0:22:43.805 --> 0:22:47.325 I don't know how long the relationship and was going 0:22:47.405 --> 0:22:50.285 on when he disappeared. I know that she lived out 0:22:50.365 --> 0:22:54.125 of state. I know that the last time he comes 0:22:54.205 --> 0:22:56.685 home he has been visiting her. I know all this 0:22:56.765 --> 0:22:59.525 from the police, but I know that she lived out 0:22:59.565 --> 0:23:04.045 of state he traveled from seeing her. At one point 0:23:04.085 --> 0:23:07.525 he was doing something in regard to a delivery of 0:23:07.565 --> 0:23:10.685 some type of job. I'm not sure I believe he 0:23:10.765 --> 0:23:13.245 goes and does that job, because he's gone most of 0:23:13.285 --> 0:23:16.565 the week that he disappears. He comes home on Thursday, 0:23:16.605 --> 0:23:20.285 March eleventh. He disappears Friday in March twelfth. He's gone 0:23:20.325 --> 0:23:22.445 most of that week. I think he had done something 0:23:22.485 --> 0:23:26.085 for this, some type of delivery. And then he flies 0:23:26.165 --> 0:23:29.365 into the state where she lives and visits her, and 0:23:29.405 --> 0:23:33.045 then he leaves from there and flies into Little Rock, Arkansas, 0:23:33.565 --> 0:23:36.205 and then drives home from the airport to last night 0:23:36.285 --> 0:23:39.765 that he's ever seen when he comes home to his 0:23:40.205 --> 0:23:43.725 home in Posituble, Arkansas. So I don't know much about her. 0:23:43.765 --> 0:23:46.605 I don't know how long they were together. What I 0:23:46.685 --> 0:23:48.845 do know, and it makes me sad to say this, 0:23:49.085 --> 0:23:52.125 But the last picture that's ever been known take had 0:23:52.245 --> 0:23:55.925 taken with Shannon is the picture that the Pope County 0:23:55.965 --> 0:23:59.485 Sheriff's Office posted when they made a recent update on 0:23:59.565 --> 0:24:03.365 Facebook saying that this was now a missing persons with 0:24:03.485 --> 0:24:06.205 suspected foul play. 0:24:06.325 --> 0:24:08.925 Just to clarify, you can't see the girlfriend in the 0:24:08.925 --> 0:24:11.245 picture but it's a picture that looks like it was 0:24:11.285 --> 0:24:14.445 taken while Shannon was standing next to someone else. You're 0:24:14.445 --> 0:24:17.565 only seeing half of it. So, even though he can't 0:24:17.605 --> 0:24:20.965 be sure, Blake believes this picture was taken in the 0:24:21.045 --> 0:24:24.725 last few weeks of Shannon's life, during that time that 0:24:24.765 --> 0:24:28.285