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Speaker 1: Lee Collins, a forty eight year old veteran, came back

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Speaker 1: He was working a part time job delivering packages, which

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Speaker 1: Shannon had raised Brittany since she was very young and

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Speaker 1: family in general. They attended a local church, Russellville First Assembly,

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Speaker 1: after March eleventh, twenty twenty one, when Shannon Collins walked

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Speaker 1: into his family home in Pottsville that he shared with

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Speaker 1: into thin air, and no one has seen Shannon Collin

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Speaker 1: since then. How could a veteran just disappear and why

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Speaker 1: did no one report him missing for nine months? I'm

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Speaker 1: Catherine Townsend. Over the past five years of making my

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Speaker 1: true crime podcast, Helen Gone. I've learned that there is

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Speaker 1: no such thing as a small town where murder never happens.

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Speaker 1: I have received hundreds of messages from people all around

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Speaker 1: the country asking for help with an unsolved murder that's

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Speaker 1: affected them, their families, and their communities. If you have

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Speaker 1: I talked to Blake, Shannon's brother, who is five years

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Speaker 2: We've then moved from the base Ville area to the

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Speaker 2: Russellville area, which is northwest Arkansas. Hoopville little town, small

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Speaker 1: Blake clarified that Shannon loved that little town so much

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Speaker 1: He served in the military for twenty four years in

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Speaker 1: Before his military service, Shannon attended Arkansas Tech University, the

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Speaker 1: March eleventh, twenty twenty one, Shannon had another reason for

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Speaker 2: Our perspective is if they had a good relationship. Not

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Speaker 2: So again I talked in the story about the fact

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Speaker 2: He had not only told us that that, he informed

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Speaker 1: When Shannon's family started not hearing from him, they of

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Speaker 1: electronic data police had verified Shannon did return from that

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Speaker 1: Blake wondered, why would they allegedly be telling two different stories,

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Speaker 2: After all that time passed, they still had two inconsistent stories.

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Speaker 2: But the only problem is that both two completely different

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Speaker 1: By this time, according to Blake, as months went on,

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Speaker 1: Shannon had medical prescriptions and regularly saw a doctor. He

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Speaker 2: He did have prescriptions, I don't know what they were.

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Speaker 2: But again, what's interesting about that. One of the text

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Speaker 1: Blake never met Shannon's girlfriend. He says he doesn't even

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Speaker 2: There have been people that have made comments about my

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Speaker 2: I mean, he had made this decision, They had had

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that what he did was okay. I'm

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Speaker 1: But even if he did tell her whatever he was doing,

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Speaker 1: What Blake has said. He would love to talk to

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Speaker 1: Just to clarify, you can't see the girlfriend in the

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Speaker 2: He wasn't trying to hide this relationship from his wife.

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Speaker 2: And that's when they inform her of what's happened.

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Speaker 1: Blake said, to protect the integrity of the investigation, and

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Speaker 2: So the reason I did what I did is and

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Speaker 2: I wanted to do that for quite some time. And

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Speaker 2: the only reason I didn't is because I didn't want

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Speaker 2: So I didn't want to hurt anything, and so I

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Speaker 2: as transparent as I can. The police, the lead investigator

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Speaker 1: Blake wants anyone in the public who may have information

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Speaker 1: to Shannon. They'd want to be able to bring their

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Speaker 1: Dailymail dot Com. The FBI was working on the investigation.

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Speaker 1: He told the paper, quote, we are still looking at

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Speaker 1: can get end quote. They said in a statement posted

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Speaker 1: during the initial and only interview the wife participated in,

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Speaker 1: she gave false and misleading statements to investigators. Investigators attempted

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Speaker 1: to obtain follow up information from Shannon's wife and children,

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Speaker 1: but we're advised that they had obtained council and wished

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Speaker 1: information since to help further the investigation. To this date,

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Speaker 1: In the next episode next week, we're going to go

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Speaker 1: And there's another mystery that involves missing money in a

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Speaker 1: of moving parts. From what we know, Teresa has not

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Speaker 1: in Shannon's family. No one has been arrested or charged

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Speaker 1: Blake believes, bottom line, that his brother did not leave

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Speaker 1: that house voluntarily. He said he would never have walked

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Speaker 1: away from his entire life with nothing. He believes that

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Speaker 1: Shannon did not make it out of that house alive.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do everything that we can to help him

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Speaker 1: get answers. I'm Katherine Townsend. This is Helen Gone Murder Line.

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