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Speaker 3: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly here with

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Speaker 3: Wes Euler and the Matt Williamson. We are live at

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Speaker 3: the Steelers OTA session here at the upmc rooney Sports

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Speaker 3: Complex on Pittsburgh's South Side here on Fox Sports Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: and Steelers Nation Radio. And guys, the start of our

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Speaker 3: number three, the final hour of the first week of OTAs.

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Speaker 1: How about it so been good?

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Speaker 3: After this hour is up, we will be one third

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Speaker 3: of the way through the OTA's right this off season schedule.

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Speaker 3: And people, I think you need to understand, like, so

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Speaker 3: OTAs are actually broken into three different face. This is

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Speaker 3: the third phase.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people think it's first, but so.

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Speaker 3: You have your your Phase one stuff is guys are

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Speaker 1: Phase two is also optional, which is optional.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 5: Phase two it's all optional until many camp.

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Speaker 3: Two weeks from now is mandatory. That's written into the CBA.

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Speaker 3: The OTAs are also written into the CBA, but they're

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Speaker 3: written in there as being optional. Situations. So you know this,

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Speaker 3: this is just the continuation of the ramping up process.

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Speaker 1: It's been going on for a while.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, OTAs did not just start now. OTAs actually started

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Speaker 3: for the veteran players before the draft, right.

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Speaker 1: Right, not even knowing who your draft picks were going

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Speaker 3: So they've been they've been together now for quite some time.

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Speaker 1: The longer process than even like NFL Network tells you

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that too.

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Speaker 3: You know, this is just a portion that the media

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Speaker 3: is also allowed to correct.

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Speaker 1: Correct why, Yeah, yeah, so that's been good today though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a spirited session. It's also help that

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Speaker 3: it's been right here in front of us. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I like whenever they do the team stuff in field

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Speaker 3: I like it better when everybody did stand in front

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Speaker 1: They don't care about this too much, really don't.

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Speaker 1: It's not super easy for us to watch practice and

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Speaker 4: If you want to sit down right here?

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Speaker 1: No, no, this is all, this is all just that

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Speaker 5: ladies and gentlemen, joining us now here at our Steelers

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Speaker 5: Nation Radio table practice number three here of this Ota phase.

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Speaker 5: Keanu Betton, Defensive Linement of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Thanks for

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Speaker 4: For sure? You know he come in His work ethic

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Speaker 6: You when you see somebody on year fifteen, you would

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Speaker 5: I'm sure part of that too is your coach Carl Dunbar,

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Speaker 6: You know me, uh Fraser, Mason, McCormick, those guys. You know,

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Speaker 6: You don't want you don't want nobody to be soft

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Speaker 1: So a lot of our listeners have a misconception that

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Speaker 3: Still?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 6: Yet line up against tackles, guards, center.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe even the tight end.

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Speaker 5: Last what I've got for We were kind of kicking

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Speaker 4: What are these next four days look like for you?

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Speaker 6: For me, I'm I'm just taking time for Myselfsburgh.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Being Pittsburgh chilling for real.

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Speaker 4: Good, get my massages, yep.

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Speaker 3: Probably go fish.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna come in and work out tomorrow. But Saturday, Sunday,

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Speaker 4: While you can.

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Speaker 1: You a big fisherman, I am. I bet Wisconsin was

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a little harder to access fishing spots here,

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Speaker 4: Everything's on like a slope.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, walk the train tracks to get to the waters.

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Speaker 5: Sure, and selfishly, I'd like to know some of your

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Speaker 1: On the fans will be hunting down.

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Speaker 4: Keep that private.

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Speaker 5: Keanu Betton, entering his third year, kind enough to take

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Speaker 5: some time with us. Thank you so much, Thank you

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Speaker 5: for having and enjoy the weekend. We we'll get to

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Speaker 5: coverage from day three of OTA's down here on the

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Speaker 2: Network, he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 2: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And we are back. I am Dale Lollie here with

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Speaker 3: the Matt Williamson and Wesley Euler stepping in here with

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Fellas, absolutely dude, we couldn't have done it without you.

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Speaker 1: That's the fact, actually.

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Speaker 3: Flip that for me justin all right, But yeah, having

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was great.

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Speaker 3: We're talking to Jack Sawyer.

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Speaker 4: Keanu Betton is hanging in town for the next four days.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna work out tomorrow and then and then rest relax,

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Speaker 3: You could do a little fishing here in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 5: I was I was gonna ask him his spots around here,

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Speaker 3: You know when we held the Pittsburgh hosted the bass

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know the bass population. People don't think of

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Speaker 1: You actually covered were sitting here with he could have

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Speaker 3: You're not going to catch carp on a basslure. That's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it means natural cover for the fish that so

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Speaker 1: But there's tons of species in there too, right, I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. A lot of boats,

445
00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:23,119
Speaker 4: a lot of boats.

446
00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:24,600
Speaker 1: You have to know how deep it is.

447
00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,640
Speaker 3: Like at the point, I do not.

448
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,280
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't any clue. But he also mentioned the

449
00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,680
Speaker 1: tho I assumed, I mean barges go through and big

450
00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,480
Speaker 1: stuff go through. But he did mention the fishing in

451
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,080
Speaker 1: Wisconsin isn't bad either. Yeah.

452
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,560
Speaker 3: The lakes are a different animal.

453
00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, when it comes close to Canada.

454
00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get some some biggins up there.

455
00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, muskies and yeah, pike you could do so you.

456
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,159
Speaker 3: Could do the muskie fishing on the rivers they're in there, right, yeah, Walleye,

457
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:54,480
Speaker 3: you know all that stuff.

458
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then you can take what you what you

459
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,480
Speaker 5: catch to the cookout and and grill it out for

460
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,560
Speaker 5: there you go for the for the young bucks hanging around.

461
00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 1: There you go. He implied that he didn't love the

462
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,639
Speaker 1: rivers because of the steep slopes from fishing the It

463
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:07,200
Speaker 1: is different.

464
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:08,119
Speaker 3: It is different.

465
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you might have to get a boat.

466
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 3: But there's some nice lakes around the area too that

467
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 3: you can you can go do some stuff in there,

468
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 3: not far far dry. You want to go up to

469
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,400
Speaker 3: an hour drive up the up seventy nine to Lake Arthur.

470
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,920
Speaker 5: Or something like that within forty five to sixty minutes.

471
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 5: There's a lot of nice places you can go fishing

472
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 5: around here. Cross Creek Lake up.

473
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Speaker 1: We used to Cross Creek when I was a kid,

474
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Speaker 1: a lot.

475
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,360
Speaker 3: Very good, best lake. Actually, the lakes and Peter's Township

476
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,159
Speaker 3: are very underfished in terms of I remember again, I

477
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 3: used to get all the access to all of the

478
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 3: the Fishing Service commission to do and some of those things,

479
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 3: like I there's some big ones in there. So yeah,

480
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,679
Speaker 3: big fishing area, big fishing.

481
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 4: I dig it, I dig it.

482
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to chat with mister Benton there you go.

483
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 1: I think he needs hell if he knows the hotspots

484
00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:58,719
Speaker 1: around here, you know.

485
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,920
Speaker 3: But I remember having share some honey holes with him

486
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 3: sharing that conversation with Josh Miller when he was a

487
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,199
Speaker 3: Steelers punter back in the day, and we're talking he

488
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 3: wanted to go fishing it in the trope, and I'm.

489
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,959
Speaker 4: Like, great spots.

490
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 3: There's some very good spots, like especially he won the

491
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 3: fly fishing.

492
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 1: Right there.

493
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 5: You can probably within a couple of miles of campus

494
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 5: would find some really good You could take one of

495
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 5: those one of those like golf carts or you know,

496
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,679
Speaker 5: like gator type buggies that they have.

497
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 4: And just go a mile off campus.

498
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, so fly fishing creek areas right, and what's

499
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: beautiful too.

500
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 4: So did you get a chance to talk to old

501
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 4: Zach Fraser down there too?

502
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 3: I did not step into these Fraser conversations. You got

503
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 3: excited there when you saw your.

504
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, that's one of the things that that Matt

505
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 4: and I liked.

506
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 5: Like Keanu talked about how him, Zach and Mason have

507
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 5: really been pushing each other this offseason throughout this process

508
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,880
Speaker 5: the classic iron sharpening iron No, not even necessarily out

509
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 5: on the footlet, but but when they're when they're doing

510
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 5: workout stuff, when they're doing cal you know, racing and

511
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 5: and who's going to have the better workout and all

512
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 5: those different things too, and gotta love it. I mean,

513
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 5: we we've seen the investment there in the trenches on

514
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 5: both sides, and you know, hopefully we see the the

515
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 5: rewards starting in September.

516
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and uh you know, that's that's what this

517
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 3: is all about. I mean, as I mentioned, I talked

518
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 3: to Jack Sawyer and he's talking about how you know,

519
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 3: I'm watching the Herbigs and the Alex Highsmiths go through this.

520
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 3: Obviously I'll be excited when t J. Watt gets here

521
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 3: and and can watch him work as well, because he's

522
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 3: one of the best, you know in the league, uh

523
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 3: you know, on the in the world really doing what

524
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 3: he does. So you know, those kind of things are valuable.

525
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 3: I think that's why it's a big reason why Cam

526
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Speaker 3: Hayward has been here these first couple of days too.

527
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Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say. It was. I was

528
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: asking him a bunch about boy a lot of new

529
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: blood in the d line room, and you know, he

530
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 1: kept really harping on how eager the young guys the

531
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: two draft picks are to learn and and of course

532
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: I had the man and you know what's Cam meant

533
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 1: to you and all that, and he's like he's done

534
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 1: it this long and he still comes to work every

535
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: day and puts that helmet on, and you know, he's

536
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: very open to teaching us as well. And there's a

537
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: good dynamic in that defensive line room, right, it really is.

538
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 3: And Cam has been the guy that like they've had

539
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 3: to kind of force him to scale back a little bit, right, right,

540
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 3: because he always wanted to practice practice, practice, practice, practice practice.

541
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 3: Like Cam, you don't you don't need to practice on

542
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 3: Wednesdays during the season, right, take that better day off

543
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 3: like you are thirty five.

544
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 1: You could go hit the pool in there and you know,

545
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: be the swimmer. Like coaching. I'm saying this year.

546
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 3: Training for the Olympics.

547
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 5: Hey, we do we do have some uh some flag

548
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 5: football opportunities for some of these guys in the upcoming Olympics.

549
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 4: If if this doesn't work out for him at least.

550
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, why not? But yeah, so what week one in

551
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 3: the books? Here on the field, and they.

552
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: Got a lot done. I was really impressed with today's

553
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: practice in particular, very spirit. Yeah, and a lot of

554
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: the better players out there not competing one hundred percent,

555
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: but I mean out there doing football stuff and team

556
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: type activities and you know they got a lot out

557
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 1: of this one.

558
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know you'll start to see now the

559
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 3: winners and losers from we want to see.

560
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, because people need to write something like.

561
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Speaker 4: It's very hard.

562
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 5: You better really be messing up to be a loser

563
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 5: in this set right right, Like there's there's guys that

564
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 5: are having better days. Obviously that's any practice at any level.

565
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 5: But to really say all that guy lost some stuff,

566
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 5: I mean, it would have to be like you were

567
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 5: talking about the guy who's making the same mistakes.

568
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: Who learn I mean, you're not. You don't lose out

569
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: on the grass here, you might lose in the meeting room.

570
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 1: Like we've gone over this three days in a row

571
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Speaker 1: and you still don't get it. Dude, I'm worried about.

572
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 4: It, but we're not all privy to that.

573
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 3: To you rarely see coaches at the NFL level start

574
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 3: yelling and screaming at a player. It doesn't happen. You

575
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 3: don't have to, You shouldn't have to, and you know,

576
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 3: take away their snap counts, and that's something it probably

577
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 3: takes that takes place in the in the like.

578
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Speaker 1: Look, man, oh yeah, they'll embarrass a guy in there.

579
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 3: You put it up on the board, all right, look

580
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 3: at this as they always call it. Yeah, Williamson, what

581
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 3: the hell were you thinking here on that right when

582
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 3: we went over this yesterday?

583
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: Still put your head set on backwards.

584
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 5: You know, I don't make the news, I just report it, right,

585
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 5: and yeah, you will find yourself on that news report.

586
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 3: For sure, because you know you just don't have time

587
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 3: for again. You get it's very structured at the NFL level.

588
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 3: You don't have time to stop and choose somebody out.

589
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: No, and what you'll see often, especially during the season,

590
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: when you exactly they just pull them off the field.

591
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: And that's enough of an embarrassment. Everyone knows why. You know, like,

592
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,239
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and coach you up

593
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 1: and have this long conversation again that we just had

594
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: inside day after day. Just get off the field, you know,

595
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: Brookie euro Upe now you know it in.

596
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: There it was you know the if an offensive lineman

597
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 3: fall started in training camp, you felt shame. Yeah. Yeah,

598
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 3: running laps, right, go run a lap. Think about what

599
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 3: you've done.

600
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 4: A couple of wraps.

601
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 5: Everybody take pictures of you as you're running laps around

602
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 5: all the football.

603
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: With all the fans there, right, they know what it is.

604
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: Think about how you have disappointed me in the ninety

605
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 3: degree heat as well, too alone with your thoughts.

606
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: You had one job, one job and screwed it up.

607
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: I have a good stuff out here so.

608
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 3: Far, absolutely, And I found it interesting all of the

609
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 3: defensive backs doing the tennis ball droll.

610
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: Oh realractice. People might not know what that is. I

611
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: mean it's a hand eye coordination.

612
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 3: A hand eye coordination thing that really could kind of Minka.

613
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: And then say Mincos brought it has worked.

614
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 3: He does it like every day now all of them

615
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 3: are over.

616
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: There doing it. I was wondering he walked past us

617
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: while you were in the scrums or whatever and grabbed

618
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: the bucket. I'm like, that must be the tennis ball

619
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: bucker exactly what it was, and there doing tennis ball drope.

620
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I did, I did notice it does. We

621
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 3: talked about Joey Porter Junior earlier in the show. Joey

622
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 3: was one of the guys. He was actually working with

623
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 3: Minca on the tennis ball stuff before everybody else got

624
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 3: over there. I mean, again, that's something mentioned he you know,

625
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,239
Speaker 3: he had ten pass breakups last year had seven his

626
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 3: first year. You know, you want to get into that

627
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 3: area where you know where slays that get better at

628
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 3: your ball skills, get the interceptions, get the past breakups.

629
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Speaker 1: Keanu, do what Cameron does? Yeah, Hey, Harmon, do what

630
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: Hayward does? Hey, Herbig, do what Watt does? Hey, all

631
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 1: you guys in the defensive backfield, do what Mica does.

632
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

633
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: I mean that stuff really rubs off. It's a good

634
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 1: guy to follow, no question, Absolutely all business too.

635
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 5: He's he's got the time in these settings to walk

636
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 5: everybody through it as well too, that you know, in

637
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 5: the middle of October on a Wednesday, he's not going

638
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 5: to have That's.

639
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: What I do.

640
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 3: Dale, do what what Wesley doesn't?

641
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: Yeh, that's how you get.

642
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 5: But no, it is And that's again too those I

643
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 5: was really and I'm kind of turning back the clock

644
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 5: here a little bit, but I can't remember if it

645
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 5: was the.

646
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty or the twenty twenty one season.

647
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 5: One of those years the Steelers defense had a decrease

648
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 5: in their takeaways, Like twenty nineteen, the year that Ben

649
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 5: had the elbow injury, they had a really high number.

650
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 5: And then I think it like got cut in half,

651
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 5: and there was a lot of conversation around is some

652
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 5: of that just luck verse? What can we really be

653
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 5: doing to coach and teach and attack the football?

654
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: And there was a lot of bad bad ball skills

655
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: collectively or right.

656
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 5: I think there was a lot of conversation from you know,

657
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 5: people outside of these walls that was like, hey, it's

658
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 5: it's just luck. Sometimes it goes away and sometimes it doesn't.

659
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 5: And there is of course a monicum of that. The

660
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 5: football is not a circular shape. It bounces, and and

661
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 5: there was there's the crazy stat from last year the

662
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 5: Eagles had like twenty one fumbles and only lost three

663
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 5: or four of them. Like, that's a crazy anomaly that

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Speaker 5: they fumble. Luck they got that they got lucky with.

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Speaker 5: But you can absolutely coach that stuff. You could absolutely

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Speaker 5: get into those details to make a difference in the

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Speaker 5: turnover department.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And like the last two years, nobody has more

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Speaker 1: tips at the line of scrimmage than the Steelers. I

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Speaker 1: mean like two years ago the Chiefs had more. This

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Speaker 1: year the Steelers, or they were two last year, two

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Speaker 1: years ago, this year they're one. Cam Hayward has way

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Speaker 1: more bad passes than anyone in the league over the

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Speaker 1: last two years, those turned into those turned into turnovers, and.

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Speaker 3: Those aren't by Those aren't accidents.

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Speaker 1: Those aren't accidents. He's gotten really good at it, and

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Speaker 1: collectively as a team, they're really good at it. I

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Speaker 1: put a lot of this stuff out on Twitter last

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Speaker 1: night just I was fiddling on Pro Football Focus and

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Speaker 1: Watt has more forced fumbles than anyone in the league

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Speaker 1: by far, especially over the last couple of years, and

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Speaker 1: particularly last year her Big tied for third. You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, these aren't accidents.

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Speaker 3: Bruce Smith led the league in that three years ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, And you know, like for you know, Terrell

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Speaker 1: Evans was a good football player, but he didn't have

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Speaker 1: that knack for taking the ball away, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you got to have guys that have a knack for

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Speaker 1: it in the secondary. Minka has that knack, even though

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have a ton of takeaway as the last

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Speaker 1: seventeen or twenty games or whatever, but you know, he

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Speaker 1: has the knack. And I think a lot of it

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Speaker 1: starts with pass rush too. I mean, if it's step

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Speaker 1: one of how do we create turnovers, rush the passer,

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Speaker 1: force throws, hit the quarterback, you know, get your hands

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Speaker 1: up at the line of scrimmage, and this team has that.

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Speaker 5: And I think there's there's been a direct correlation over

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Speaker 5: the years that the Steelers have been one, two, three,

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Speaker 5: top five in the NFL in sacks and team sacks

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Speaker 5: and the years that they were you know, up their

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Speaker 5: top ten and turnovers forced as well too.

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Speaker 4: There's a direct correlation.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's not an accident. There is some variants, of course,

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Speaker 1: right always, and your Eagles example is a great one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's that's not if they have twenty

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Speaker 5: one fumbles or whatever they had last year.

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Speaker 4: Again, they they're not going to get seventeen of them

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Speaker 4: back or eighteen of them back. That's not going to

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Speaker 4: be the case.

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Speaker 1: It helps you win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: There is some luck invites you can still control what

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Speaker 5: you can control within that realm of of some luck.

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Speaker 1: Put yourself in the best It's like being a playing poker.

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Speaker 1: As I said, it's like playing poker, you know, playing

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Speaker 1: the odds perhaps the best situation.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Conversely, you can control your own turnovers.

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Speaker 4: A little bit more.

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Speaker 3: You know, you can not put the ball in harm's

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Speaker 3: way throwing the football. You can be better at ball protection,

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Speaker 3: and we see them work a lot of that out here.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: You know guys running with the ball and you know

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Speaker 3: others are beating at it.

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Speaker 5: With the clubs and clubs, the box the boxing gloves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody should do that while we're like they're sitting

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Speaker 3: right over there.

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Speaker 1: We can have some over the head the air.

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Speaker 4: Radio radio host combine. One of these years we need

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Speaker 4: to do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, someone like get Kabali right and give him a

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Speaker 5: boxing glove and let.

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Speaker 1: Them hurt himself. We're gonna hit him. He's not hitting.

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Speaker 5: He'd be enthusiastic about it, though, I tell you, I

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Speaker 5: don't see if you go over the bag would be

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Speaker 5: someone trying to like knock your your headset over off

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Speaker 5: your ear while you're in the middle of delivering a

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Speaker 5: well thought out tangent.

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Speaker 3: Guys, let's get to another break here, come back to

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Speaker 3: wrap up the show. He is Matt Williamson. That's what

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Speaker 3: Slee Euler. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to our

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Speaker 3: upmc rooney Sports Complex here on Pittsburgh's South Side on

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Speaker 3: We are in Pittsburgh, Fox Sports Pittsburgh and Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: We will be back to finish up the show right

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Speaker 3: after this