1 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Jaguars Broadcast Weekend Review podcast presented by 2 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: t I A A. Bank. It's Friday, March j P. 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: Shadrick with the best of the week from Jaguars Radio, 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com, and all our streaming platforms Jags, Twitter, Facebook, 5 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: and YouTube. We start this week with the Jaguars Reporters Podcast. Monday, 6 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: John Ozer, Brian Sexton, Ashland Sullivan and I recapped the 7 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: arrival of the first wave free agent signings, including defensive 8 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: tackle fully Phookasi from the Jets. You know, hearing his 9 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: story the way he came through sixth round pick played 10 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 1: like one game as rookie season, you never know if 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: those guys are gonna stick or not. But that he 12 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: found a role and found a way and stuck with 13 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: it and kept working and battled through. Yeah, he was 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: by far the most emotional um telling his story, and 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: it was interesting. We got to the point where he 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: was really talking about leaving his hometown. He's from Queens 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: and you know New Yorkers, they're very proud of where 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: they're from. And he went to college around there and 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: then played for the New York Jets. He said, this 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,919 Speaker 1: is really my first time leaving home, and I always 21 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: pictured when I left home it was because I've reached success. 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: And for him to reach the second contract is the 23 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: success that that he wished upon. It's the ultimate success story, 24 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: which coming to Florida. I mean, come on, that's not Yeah, 25 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: he said, you know, when I moved, I knew it 26 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: would be. It's because I made it. So you could 27 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: tell he was getting really emotional that he got the 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: second contract. Well, I'll have to home this because my 29 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: father told me I had to st story on that. 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: But I think what struck me about the seven was 31 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: I don't know whether they'll quote live up to their contracts. 32 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how you do that when you're making 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: the kind of money that free agents make. But what 34 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: I do believe is that these seven, you're not going 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: to have any of those guys who say, Okay, well 36 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: I made the money, now I'm done. Right now, I'm 37 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: checking out. You got the idea that they will all 38 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: try to earn what ever is in the third year. 39 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: So and there are elements of that. We've had this 40 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: franchise before, way beyond for me, but you're not gonna 41 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: get a Jerry Porter out of this point. The Jaguars 42 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: Reporters podcast runs Mondays on this official Jaguars podcast network, 43 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: moving to Tuesday Morning and Jags Drive Time. NFL media 44 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: reporter Judy Batista joined Ashwyn John and Brian for a 45 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: review of one of the wildest openings to a league 46 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: here in league history. This seems to be one of 47 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: the craziest free agencies we have ever seen. To be Frank, 48 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: I think it's deep crazy. Um we've ever seen I 49 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: don't remember ever seeing anything like this, especially the quarterback movement, 50 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: which is um wild and unprecedented in the NFL. Judy, 51 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: let me ask you, Um, this was the topic we 52 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: were just talking about this U. The quarterbacks are the 53 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: tip of the iceberg on it, but so many big 54 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: names changing hands? Is this trend? Do you see this 55 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: being the way the league is going forward? Because Judy, 56 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: unfortunately and I have know each other a long long time, 57 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: so we're the old people in the room. With Brian, 58 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: I don't remember this young at heart. Young at heart? 59 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: Is this how it's gonna be or if our team's 60 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: gonna have to see if it works? How do you 61 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: see this shaping up going forward? I do think, um, 62 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: this is likely to be the way things are for 63 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: a while, there's you know, if general managers have gotten younger, 64 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: and I think this wave of general managers is more 65 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: aggressive in team building. I mean, you're right, like, only 66 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: how many years ago there were never trades in the NFL. 67 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: We would sort of bemoan like, oh, we wish it 68 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: were more like Major League Baseball's trade deadline, right, We're 69 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: superstar players are moving all the time. That never happened, 70 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: and you certainly never saw a player for player trades. 71 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: And part of the reason why they would say, well, 72 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: you know, the salary cap makes it too complicated. Well 73 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: now we realized not really, they just didn't want to 74 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: do trades. Um. This wave of general managers seemed more 75 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: comfortable with with doing it, and so I think, um, 76 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: we are likely to see this kind of movement. Um. Listen, 77 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: you know we we just saw what the Rams did. Um, 78 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: and that's not for everybody. That's not everybody's cup of 79 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: tea the way they built their team, but it worked. Um, 80 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: And I think you're you know, I think you're going 81 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: to see a comfort level, particularly with moving star level players. 82 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: You know, Judy, I'm not sure what my question is here, 83 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: but when when you look at the Colts, right, Um, 84 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: the Colts for years had Peyton Manning and then Andrew 85 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: Luck and they had no quarterback instability at all. And 86 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: now what are they going into six straight years? This 87 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: will be with them with a different starting quarterback. Uh. 88 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: Part of that, I think it speaks to what you 89 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: were saying, and that is is that you know, you've 90 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: got guys who are willing to take chances. And the 91 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: other part of it is is that when there's not 92 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: someone out there, guys can move freely. It's just so 93 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: interesting Marcus Mariott is getting another chance, and Russell Wilson 94 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: moves to Denver, and so where does Baker Mayfield land? 95 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: Where where does this whole quarterback carousel stop? This year? 96 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: I think also just to add to what you were saying, 97 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: a contributing factor this year is the draft class is 98 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: not you know, there's just not this wealth of quarterbacks 99 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: that are really well regarded in this draft class. Maybe 100 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: that will turn out to be wrong, but at least 101 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: the analysis going into the draft is, you know, there's 102 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: no Trevor Laureance. So if you are a team in 103 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: need of that guy, you know the draft is sort 104 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,119 Speaker 1: of pushed to the side. And if if you feel 105 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: like we're just a quarterback away, um, then you're gonna 106 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: go get one in free agency. To answer your question 107 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: about Baker Mayfield, you know, I don't I don't know 108 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: where he lands. Um. Certainly that you know, the seats 109 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: are filling up and the music is getting close to stopping. Um, 110 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: he apparently wanted was hoping for the Indianapolis called I 111 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: never thought that was going to be a great fit. 112 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: They apparently we're not, um, you know, really in on 113 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: him either. So uh, you know there are teams that 114 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: still need a quarterback Seattle, Um, you know, I can't 115 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: imagine they're going to be just settling Withdrew lock So 116 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: Seattle apostle ability. Um, maybe what are the Carolina panther 117 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: is going to do since they missed out onto Shawn Watson? 118 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: But you know the slots are closing up. I mean Atlanta, 119 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: you know, trades Matt Ryan and then signs Marcus Mariotta, 120 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: who is clearly their bridge quarterback. Maybe maybe he resurrects 121 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: his career, which would be tremendous, but you know, clearly 122 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: he is the bridge to either his own career resurrection 123 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: or to somebody else Um, you know, New Orleans brought 124 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: back Jamis Winston, which I think was the no brainer move. Um, 125 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: but you know the spots not just Stake or Mayfield. 126 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: What happens to Jimmy Garoppolo now, who I think we 127 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: all assumed would be moved by this time and his 128 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: shoulder surgery has really messed up his his movement. Jack's 129 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: Drive Time Tuesday's at ten am on Jaguars dot Com 130 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: and the Jags social media channels. We stay with a 131 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: quarterback talk, and this time from the NFL Network analyst 132 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks on the Huddle Up Podcast. He spoke with 133 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,559 Speaker 1: John Osan and me about the quarterback Pro Day week. 134 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: What do you like so far about the quarterback week 135 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: in the Pro Days? Bucky? Uh, you know, JP, I 136 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: think we have to kind of talk about it in 137 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: terms of the way that we're seeing the league shift. 138 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: We're seeing the size of me change in the way 139 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: people are treating the quarterback and that will have a 140 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: ripple effect on the college game and the college quarterbacks 141 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: that are in this draft. UM, We've never seen as 142 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,679 Speaker 1: much turnover in movement up top of the National Football 143 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: League with um quote unquote elite quarterbacks changing teams still 144 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: in their prime, and that has led us to look 145 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position a little differently. I think when 146 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: the money escalated and got to the point where it's 147 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: forty million dollars for um, your high end quarterbacks, I 148 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: think teams are now making decisions based on if I 149 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: don't have what I deemed to be an elite quarterback, 150 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: I'm not just going to pay them to keep them around. Uh. 151 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: There was a time where we were doing that. We 152 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: saw that even in Jacksonville, where maybe Blake Borders wasn't 153 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: a high end guy but still got paid like that. 154 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: And what happens upsets to apple cart and the locker 155 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: room teams, and they're going away from that. And I 156 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: think what happened in the postseason when you saw Pat 157 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: Mahomes and Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Matt Staffic where the 158 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: quarterback made plays, I think it raised the bar for 159 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: what we expect from the quarterback. And so now when 160 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: we look at these college guys in the draft, I 161 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: don't know if people are really fired up about the 162 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: class unless you have great tools. And so the entrigue 163 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: yesterday was on Malik Willis, and Malik Willis has tools 164 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: that will be reminiscent of what we saw from like 165 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Pat Mahomes and those guys where you're 166 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: almost doing like baseball scouting, where you kind of ignore 167 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: the performance and the production and you're you're making the 168 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: evaluation based on what they bring to the table physically, 169 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: raw arm, talent, uh, athleticism and that stuff, and then 170 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: you're hoping that you can coach them up and maybe 171 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: if it hits, you get one of those elite quarterbacks. 172 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: But I don't think people now are selling for mediocrity, 173 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: which really makes the conversation interesting when we start thinking 174 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: about how Trouble Lawrence needs to progress over the next 175 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: four years before you have to start doing that big, 176 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: big payday, and how you build your team around an 177 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: elite quarterback making big money. I'll say this leading into 178 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: a question for the scout, But what you just said, Bucky, 179 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: if I was a GM, which obviously I'm never going 180 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: to be a GM, I think you will sew yourself 181 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: short scouting a guy and drafting him high and thinking 182 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: that you're going to develop a guy because he has 183 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: tools and he's never shown it. The old man shouting 184 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: at at our clouds inside of me says that is 185 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: a risky way to get a quarterback as somebody who 186 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: sat in those rooms, as somebody who you know, Uh, 187 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: I think I could be a GM as yourself. Would 188 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: that not scare the heck out of you? Well? I 189 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: think if you if you look at it this way, 190 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: what we're talking about our prototypes. So there are two 191 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: ways to do it. Where you can look at the 192 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: prototypical guy who has the height, weight, arm, talent, checks 193 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: off all the intangible qualities and those things, and you're like, look, 194 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: the performance hasn't always been clean, but the odd suggest 195 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: that the elite quarterbacks have X, Y and z. This 196 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: guy has that, he just hasn't put it together as 197 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: opposed to the noodle arm quarterback that we know is 198 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: just a guy. But then we get him and we 199 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: get comfortable with him being the quarterback, and then we 200 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: don't want to move on because we're like, yeah, he 201 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: doesn't have this, but we don't want to go out 202 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: and search for better. I think what you're now seeing 203 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: is everyone is on the hunt to get a top 204 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: five guy, and if you're not a top five guy, 205 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: it's just not a birth right for you to be 206 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback long term for a franchise. I think 207 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: that's the main shift. And so yeah, you don't necessarily 208 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: want to make those gambles. But what you do now, John, 209 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: is you swinging. You swing for the fences, and if 210 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: you don't, I can you move on and get the 211 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: next one. Before when we talk about drafting guys in 212 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: the first round, you draft to go in the first round. 213 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: You kind of married to him for a long time. 214 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns moved off of Baker Mayfield he was 215 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: the number one overall pick and led him into a 216 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: post A playoff win, and they're like, yeah, we know 217 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: we need better to beat the other guys. That's where 218 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: we're seeing the bar is now going. They're raising the 219 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: bar for expectations for quarterbacks, and I like it because 220 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: that's how the bar was always raised for position players. 221 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: We settled with quarterbacks because we're like, yeah, we don't 222 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: want to bring you in competition, whereas we should always 223 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: want the best quarterback that we can find, like that 224 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: to golf, right, and then we can't get over the 225 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: humpless go get Matthew Stafford and it worked out for 226 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: them a super Bowl. Yeah, because now you have to 227 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: think about the position and talent and tools, and so 228 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville we should feel better about Trevor Lawrence because 229 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: even though last year, the rookie year, like the numbers 230 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: weren't what we like, the talent and the tools deals 231 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: show up. The talent shows up, the tools. He's long, 232 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: he's athletic, he has great arm. Talent. 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That 258 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: from an event this week with Pro Football Hall of 259 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: Fame left tackle Tony Basselli and the Basselli Foundation at 260 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: a local academy sports and outdoors store, students from Matthew 261 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: Gilbert Middle School got a shopping spree and new equipment 262 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: for the soccer team. The Basselli Foundation has over ten 263 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: years experience providing comprehensive after school programming for at risk youth, 264 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: including faith based character building and intensive academics. For more information, 265 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: visit Masselli Foundation dot com. Let's hear more from Bucky 266 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: Brooks on the Huddle Up Podcast Wednesday. We took social 267 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: media questions this week, one of them about wide receiver 268 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: options for the Jaguars in the NFL Draft, especially with 269 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: the thirty third overall pick, the opening pick of the 270 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: second round. They're million of them. John Dodson could be 271 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: in the mix. Um sky More from Western Michigan could 272 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: be a guy UM that could ask some juice and 273 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: scissor to the lineup. UM. I guy that I like, 274 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: but I worry about his speed not being enough to 275 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: kind of change the or impact the wide receiver corps 276 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: would be David Bill from Perdue. Um. There are many 277 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: guys I would say keep an eye on this guy 278 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: from North Dakota State, Christian Watson. Uh. Not in the thirties, 279 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: but maybe late second round, early third round. Christian Watson 280 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: is a guy that dominant, has great size, great length, 281 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: and when we think about the success that Cooper Cup 282 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: hat game is not identical. But he could be the 283 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: next guy from a small school to kind of pop 284 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: as a as a big time pro. And Bucky, you 285 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: said it before, but for the purposes of this question, 286 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: you think it's possible in this draft to get a 287 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: long term, big time player white receiver. Right. Oh, absolutely, 288 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: Like that's that's that's where you want to be. You 289 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: want to be because someone So here's the thing, all 290 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: thirty two draft wars are different, um, and so someone 291 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: is going to take a player that you deem to 292 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: be not necessarily a great player, and so there's going 293 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: to leave someone that's how on your board there in 294 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: the second round. So yeah, I think you can find 295 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: you can find guys. I think it might be an 296 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: opportunity to get um another offensive lineman. If you say 297 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: that you still need some more help there, you have 298 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: an opportunity to get any of your pass catchers that 299 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: you want. And I think you also can get a 300 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: corner you know. I mean, it's gonna be wide open 301 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: for you at that point. The Huddle Up Podcast runs 302 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoons on the Official Jaguars Podcast Network. 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For more information, email ticketing at bold events 312 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: dot com or called nine oh four six three three 313 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: two thousand. Let's wrap this week with Austin Gale of 314 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus. He joined Jeff Logerman and me on 315 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour Radio Thursday afternoon. Gale and his staff 316 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: interviewed over fifty people for an upcoming PF podcast series 317 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: entitled hutch You Guess It about Michigan defensive end Aidan 318 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: Hutchinson and his journey toward the NFL Draft. We've interviewed 319 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: over fifty people, right, We've inter over fifty people, talking 320 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: to everyone we possibly can to help tell Aidan Hutchinson's story, 321 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: and a lot of it has been awesome and so 322 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: consistent as well. Which is the type of player and 323 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: the type of human being Aidan Hutchinson is. I've interviewed 324 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: from much every member of his nuclear family, a lot 325 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: of media, a lot of draft analysts, a lot of 326 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: players that he played with, pretty pay um you know, 327 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: Julius welsh Off, his roommate there at Michigan. It's been really, 328 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: really fun just finding out who Aidan Hutchinson is, right, 329 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: because everyone talks about him. He's just projected number one 330 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: overall pick, potentially a future Jacksonville Jaguar, and I really 331 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: wanted to dig into the type of player he is, 332 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: the guy on and off the field he's had, you know, 333 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: a wild story. Comes to Michigan as a four star recruit. 334 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: We're in the same jersey his dad did at the 335 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: University of Michigan up to live a legacy with Hutchinson 336 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: as his last name, and from there plays right away, 337 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: does not burn a red shirt year, plays in that 338 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: Don Brown defense, up and down with with Shawn Gary Quitte, Pay, 339 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: Chased Winevitch, Josh h Cha finally has this opportunity to 340 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: be the guy on campus. In twoints tw COVID abbreviated season, 341 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: also gets her breaks his ankle six snaps into the 342 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: Indiana game and ultimately was gonna make a decision to 343 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: go to the NFL Draft instead. With the injury and 344 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: with the COVID abbreviated season, knew he had more to 345 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: prove came back in one for his senior season, and 346 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: well the rest is history. But he probably made himself 347 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: a lot more money Austin and uh and by the way, 348 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: out of all these fifty interviews that you conduct, by 349 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: the way, you know, this is really kind of a 350 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: vetting process. If you find out any blemish whatsoever, please 351 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: let us know so that we can pass that on 352 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: to the people here that make those decisions. Because when 353 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: you invest the kind of money that the Jaguars are 354 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: gonna invest in the first overall pick, you gotta know everything. 355 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: I haven't found a blemish yet. I'll say that it's 356 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: been tough to talking to his dad for an hour 357 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: and a half, his mom for an hour, all these 358 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: different draft analysts, all these coaches. Right, Some of the 359 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: more fascinating interviews that I've done have been talking to 360 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: coaches that have coached against him. I talked to the 361 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator for the University of watching that he went 362 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: toe to toe within week two and said, I don't 363 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: know what to do. You talked to Western Michigan who 364 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: played him in week one, was watching Baltimore Ravens film 365 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: to get a read on the defensive porter to Mike 366 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: McDonald's offense or defense, and he said, I didn't know 367 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: what to do. We tried to run away from We 368 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: try and chip, we try to do all these things, 369 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: and he's a very difficult player to game plan for. 370 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: And that's what I found out time and time again 371 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: talking to these opponent coaches. I think my favorite interview 372 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: has probably been Penn State offensive line coach Philip trout 373 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,239 Speaker 1: Wine talking to him about what are you telling your 374 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: offensive tack us to do when you're get in these 375 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: situations with Aiden Hudson's They don't block him one on one, right, 376 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna need a tight end, You're gonna need a 377 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: running back. You're gonna need to run the football far 378 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: and far away from Maiden Hutchinson. Yeah, Austin, you know, 379 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: I played the position somewhat because he's a stand up 380 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: more of a stand up type of a guy. And 381 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: when I was in college, I was a stand up 382 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: middle linebacker. But when I was in the pros, I 383 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: was a defensive end. So I watched that position with 384 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: great interest and and watching the film on Aidan Hutchinson, 385 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: I can't find as a guy that played that position, 386 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: I can't find anything that he does not do well. 387 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: I don't find any weakness. I don't see any weakness. 388 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: He's got a tremendous motor. He uh excels in every situation, 389 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: whether it's something that requires speed, stamina, strength, he does 390 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: everything exceptionally well. And so many different people probably want 391 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: to type cast him into a four or three or 392 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: a three four at PFF. What do you guys think 393 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: he is gonna be or where he should be. I 394 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: think he can play both positions really well. Whether his 395 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: hands in the ground or it's off, it's kind of 396 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: up to him and the team that wants to play him. 397 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: Talking to his agent and talking to Aiden specifically, so 398 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: he kind of prefers playing with his hand out of 399 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: the ground, but he said, I'll do whatever it takes. 400 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: I'll play nose tackle in the NFL if that's what 401 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: I have to do, if that's the team asked me 402 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: to do. I do think he's best on the edge 403 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,479 Speaker 1: and being able to pin his ear back and pin 404 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: his ears back and rush the pastor with a hand 405 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: out of the ground. I think that's what's been really 406 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: really where he's had the most success. Right, He did 407 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: a lot of that in that bersility. I think you're 408 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: a hunter per set right, you hit the nail on 409 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: the head. I'm just like the type of player he is. 410 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: He's a complete player. Talking to head coach Jim Harbaugh, 411 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: he just checks every single box athleticism, intangibles, production, measurables, 412 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: all these different boxes you need to check to be 413 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: a numbered overall pick, to be a top five pick 414 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's exactly what Aidan Hutchinson checks. There 415 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: at the University of Michigan, there strength and conditioning coach 416 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: Ben Herbert, who's been there since, has molded Aidan Hutchinson's body. 417 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: They test forty one different key key performance indicators or 418 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: KPI is like neck inflection, hip abduction, all these different things. 419 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: He is a plus across the board, the best they've 420 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: seen over the last two years. Aidan Hutchinson is the 421 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: freak of nature coming out of Michigan. Jaguars Happy Our 422 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: Radio airs Thursday at four o'clock on TIN to n 423 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: x l a M in Jacksonville or on Jaguars Twitter, Facebook, 424 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: and YouTube, and that podcast series will drop from PFF 425 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: at some point in April, the date undetermined. At this time, 426 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: we'll keep you posted here. That wraps another busy week 427 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: at t I A bank Field. Next week it's the 428 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: NFL annual meeting, commonly known as the Owners Meetings. They're 429 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: down in Palm Beach this year, John Osan will be 430 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: there for Jaguars dot Com. 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