Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Guys, as you can see, we're
Speaker 1: not in our normal studio. The nuthouse is okay as
Speaker 1: of now though, thank god, ladies and gentlemen, the nuthouse
Speaker 1: once again is okay for now, but it is in
Speaker 1: an evacuation zone, so we had to evacuate, and thankfully
Speaker 1: we and everyone on our team is safe and evacuated
Speaker 1: for now.
Speaker 2: Over one hundred thousand people have been displaced, lives have
Speaker 2: been lost, and thousands of homes and structures have been
Speaker 2: destroyed because of this crazy fire.
Speaker 1: Our thoughts are with everyone across the region affected by
Speaker 1: these unprecedented wildfires. This is a tragedy and if you
Speaker 1: would like to, you know, help those impacted by the fires.
Speaker 1: We have a couple resources right here, a couple websites
Speaker 1: that you can donate to. The first one is the
Speaker 1: California Firefoundation dot org. That's Cafirefoundation dot org. We got
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Foodbank dot org. Url is LA food
Speaker 1: Bank dot org. Or you know the big organization that
Speaker 1: everyone knows of, the Red Cross organization, and the URL
Speaker 1: for that is Redcross dot org. Please donate to one
Speaker 1: of those three five dollars ten dollars, fifteen dollars, one
Speaker 1: hundred dollars, depending on.
Speaker 2: How rich you are.
Speaker 1: Any cent helps, anything will help, and it all adds
Speaker 1: up in the end. And Jules, I know the nuthouse.
Speaker 1: You know which You're the owner of the nuthouse I
Speaker 1: live in. You live in the nuhouse these How have
Speaker 1: you been holding up, bro throughout these tough times?
Speaker 2: Dude, It's been such a crazy week or five days,
Speaker 2: six days, I don't I can't even tell you what
Speaker 2: date is. I've been off the grid for four days
Speaker 2: getting my house prepped. I've kind of documented a lot
Speaker 2: of it, and I think we'll have some stuff going
Speaker 2: out on social on all our platforms that show that
Speaker 2: the nuthouse is in Brentwood, which you know that the
Speaker 2: fires got to Mholland and Mandeville. We are the next canyon.
Speaker 2: First off, you gotta say that the first responders, man,
Speaker 2: these guys and women are freaking studs what they've done
Speaker 2: out here. I'm just telling you, guys, this, this is
Speaker 2: Everyone keeps on saying apocalyptic type shit, and it's that
Speaker 2: and more. My daughter's house was in another area. We
Speaker 2: were evacuated in my area where across towns all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, they had to evacuate with the sunset fire.
Speaker 2: Then there's the Hearst fire. This was like the craziest thing. No,
Speaker 2: you didn't feel safe anywhere in the city.
Speaker 1: Why did you get the evacuation notice?
Speaker 2: We got it a few days ago. We didn't leave
Speaker 2: a few days ago. We had we had to get
Speaker 2: we had to get some stuff ready for that. I
Speaker 2: felt like Kevin McCallister getting my house ready for goddamn burger.
Speaker 2: What what did you do to protect your house? I
Speaker 2: put I just tell you right now, there's a sprinkler
Speaker 2: hitting every square inch of my property. I got sprinklers.
Speaker 2: I got six sprinklers on the roof. I'm sprinkling in
Speaker 2: the back hill where the fire could come if it
Speaker 2: were to come. There's been ash everywhere. I've been breathing
Speaker 2: in this stuff. We've had masks, but not always. It's
Speaker 2: been crazy. I mean I've been taking my little dirt
Speaker 2: bike up to the top of the hill every couple
Speaker 2: hours when I was still in the zone to see
Speaker 2: the fire. I mean I could see the fire coming
Speaker 2: from a distance. Every couple days. It was a canyon closer,
Speaker 2: a canyon closer. You're seeing all these planes, these big
Speaker 2: old seven thirty sevens with the retarding in it dropping.
Speaker 2: I mean, these are huge planes, fucking huge planes that are,
Speaker 2: like I'm not joking, maybe two hundred feet above these houses,
Speaker 2: just dropping. We got some footage of that. They coming
Speaker 2: right over the nuthouse, Right over the nuthouse. I'm on
Speaker 2: the sprinklers, shirt off, got my mask on, water and everything.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, I'm thinking I'm getting hitting with
Speaker 2: red shit. I'm getting red shit all over me almost.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's been that crazy.
Speaker 1: You're making this sound like a war zone.
Speaker 2: It was a war zone.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad you're safe, brother, you know, glad you're
Speaker 1: safe and you finally evacuate. I feel like you were
Speaker 1: the last one left on your street. Is that true?
Speaker 2: I was probably? Yeah, we were the last. You know,
Speaker 2: if law enforcements are listening to this, I don't know
Speaker 2: what they're talking about. We were the last. I'll tell
Speaker 2: you one thing, though, Rob, I've been in Boston for
Speaker 2: thirteen years, and that's my community. That's our community that
Speaker 2: you know, we grew up there pretty much as young adults.
Speaker 1: It's a home, it will be a home for That's
Speaker 1: home basically.
Speaker 2: You know, I've been out of this California for so long.
Speaker 2: This is the first time I've really seen this area
Speaker 2: go through something. I mean, we had the bombings in
Speaker 2: Boston where you saw our community come together, you know,
Speaker 2: at the marathon. There's been other things, you know, this
Speaker 2: is the first time I've seen like a tragic event
Speaker 2: come to this area that I've been living here full
Speaker 2: time now for eighteen months, and I've been really impressed
Speaker 2: with the amount of help that people have been giving,
Speaker 2: just the random people. I mean, you drive up San
Speaker 2: Flecente and there's a line of cars for all the
Speaker 2: people that lost their homes trying to get back into
Speaker 2: the Pala States, and these people are all breaking bread,
Speaker 2: drinking coffee. No one's going completely crazy, even though they're
Speaker 2: going back to see if they can find one thing
Speaker 2: from their burnt down house. I've seen firefighters from everywhere Vegas, Oregon,
Speaker 2: I've seen them from northern California, col fire guys everywhere.
Speaker 2: I've seen there's Mexican firefighters that came in. I think
Speaker 2: we got like fifty or sixty guys from Mexico. We
Speaker 2: got guys from Canada. The amount of help that has
Speaker 2: been coming to the area and the people and how
Speaker 2: they've been treating each other. You know, it's been really
Speaker 2: comforting and it's been really cool. I mean, this lady
Speaker 2: came from San Diego. I've been glued to the television
Speaker 2: when I've had reception because once I was in the
Speaker 2: Nuthouse area, yea, no power, no reception, bin off grid.
Speaker 2: So like I take my little dirt bike and I
Speaker 2: would go to like where I get a little reception,
Speaker 2: throw on my YouTube TV and throw on the fire
Speaker 2: watch stuff. The footage just from all the news outlets
Speaker 2: out here which have been doing a great job covering
Speaker 2: to give us information on these fires. It's nuts, man.
Speaker 2: It's honestly one of the craziest things I've seen. But
Speaker 2: the only comforting I've seen from this. The thing that
Speaker 2: comes to me is just like people are helping people,
Speaker 2: and that's We're going to do a lot of that
Speaker 2: as Americans. We'll get through this well.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you sharing your stories through these tough times, Jewels,
Speaker 1: and I know if you've done a great you know
Speaker 1: you got a couple great things out there as well
Speaker 1: to help out these firefighters. We have no snacks here
Speaker 1: at this house. Can you please explain why what did
Speaker 1: you do with all those snacks doing? I mean, well,
Speaker 1: you're not worried about yourself, which is great. You know,
Speaker 1: you're worried about your least and you're more worried about
Speaker 1: the firefights.
Speaker 2: I love that get some laughing out of this because
Speaker 2: we need it. It's been so fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: Laughter always helps out, no matter the circumstances. And it's
Speaker 1: and it's not too it's not, you know, too soon
Speaker 1: to laugh, and that it's been a couple of days now,
Speaker 1: and uh, it's good to be it's not, but it's
Speaker 1: good to be here for a little relief, a little laughter,
Speaker 1: because I know you've been going through some tough times.
Speaker 1: And actually as well, you've been telling me about how
Speaker 1: you've been breathing in so much smoke and how your
Speaker 1: lungs are possibly a little damage. So I wanted to
Speaker 1: help out as well, and I treated you the last
Speaker 1: two days to an IVY vitamin bag. We've been taking
Speaker 1: anament you can, you know, flush the tocksins out you've
Speaker 1: been breathing that air. So I'm just trying to help
Speaker 1: out as well for you, Jewels, because you saved the
Speaker 1: nuth house. Yes, but you have you, you have God
Speaker 1: have done everything so far.
Speaker 2: You're coming off the goddamn mountains.
Speaker 1: Well, you have done everything so far. If you even
Speaker 1: go close to your house, if a burglary guy is
Speaker 1: trying to come to your house, so he's get soaked
Speaker 1: and he's gonna run away as soon as possible, that's
Speaker 1: how many damn splinkers you got around.
Speaker 2: No, and on top of your room. You know what
Speaker 2: you're saying. You know there's a firehouse right down my street.
Speaker 2: And I was leaving for the day today earlier when
Speaker 2: I snuck in the evac zone, didn't sneak in have
Speaker 2: a media badge. Media guy literally had to show my
Speaker 2: Fox badge. So Fox kidos to you got me to
Speaker 2: my house, Fox gets you in. Why so I had
Speaker 2: a bunch of Amazon packages because I always like to
Speaker 2: get a bunch of snacks for you the nuthouse. And
Speaker 2: I'm talking we are snack chra is crazy.
Speaker 1: Every time you walk into the nuthouse. I'm talking like
Speaker 1: you got fifteen options of snacks. People like to work
Speaker 1: with good food, yes they do. You know people you
Speaker 1: don't go pouse, No, don't.
Speaker 2: So you know we were I was leaving. We got
Speaker 2: all this food and I and I took it all
Speaker 2: and I dropped it off the firehouse for the boys
Speaker 2: and the ladies that are are fucking putting their lives
Speaker 2: on on risk for to save our houses, to save
Speaker 2: our our our our community. You know. So that's a
Speaker 2: little thing that was just like a whatever, you know.
Speaker 2: But once again, guys, go to Caafirefoundation dot org or
Speaker 2: Lafoodbank dot org or the Redcross dot org because I'm
Speaker 2: telling you right now, there are so many people that
Speaker 2: have nothing, They've lost everything, and everyone wants to sit
Speaker 2: here and say, oh, it's just a bunch of movie stars,
Speaker 2: all these rich people this that's fucking bullshit. Okay, that's
Speaker 2: fucking bullshit. There's a bunch of everyone out here that
Speaker 2: regardless of what you are or where you come from,
Speaker 2: there's people from all sorts of backgrounds that have absolutely
Speaker 2: nothing now from this fucking crazy fire. So if you
Speaker 2: guys can go out and please donate to help these people.
Speaker 2: Go take a picture of your house, Go where all
Speaker 2: your memories are made, your families, lives are made, uh,
Speaker 2: your kids were raised. Just go take a look at
Speaker 2: that stuff and then pretend it's never there again, because
Speaker 2: that's what happened to thousands of people out here, and
Speaker 2: I can't reiterate how this doesn't even look like reality.
Speaker 2: We didn't feel it was appropriate to deliver Dudes on
Speaker 2: Dudes last week because of this, so this is our
Speaker 2: wild card weekend Dudes on Dudes episode. We felt like
Speaker 2: it'd be really crazy if we didn't talk about the
Speaker 2: fires and just deliver it, so we wanted to have
Speaker 2: a segment to kind of talk about it, to give
Speaker 2: it a soft launch for this week's episode. Lastly, before
Speaker 2: flying over La, did you see it?
Speaker 1: I actually didn't see any of the fires flying into LA,
Speaker 1: but it was very foggy. It was very smoky out there,
Speaker 1: and you couldn't really see the transparency of visibility. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't so great. I couldn't even see
Speaker 1: the mountains because it was so smoky. Everyone on the
Speaker 1: plane actually like had their windows up and they were
Speaker 1: filming out the window too, just to you know, try
Speaker 1: to capture some of what was going on so you know,
Speaker 1: you can send it to your friend, you know, back
Speaker 1: on the East coast, just so they can see the
Speaker 1: rezation of everything that is going on here in La.
Speaker 1: But it's just amazing what the first responders have done here,
Speaker 1: all the firefighters, police men, keeping everyone safe, keeping all
Speaker 1: the looters out of the houses as well. Uh, and
Speaker 1: just thankful for all of them, big time. Without them,
Speaker 1: this would be out of hand. Have you ever seen
Speaker 1: the movie This is the End? Remember when you see
Speaker 1: all of Hollywood on fire in that movie? On Tuesday
Speaker 1: night of last week, it literally looked like that there
Speaker 1: were fires in all directions. I can't describe it in
Speaker 1: any words because my vocabulary A sucks and B I'm
Speaker 1: still hyped up from this shit. And the NAD got
Speaker 1: me feeling really good. I can get out, man, I
Speaker 1: can tell. So you're rolling, you were hocketing and rolling. So, guys,
Speaker 1: we missed talking. We haven't been able to get in
Speaker 1: the nuthouse. We missed talking to you guys.
Speaker 2: We miss communicating with you guys, and we appreciate it
Speaker 2: if you guys were to look into the organizations once again.
Speaker 1: CIA, Firefoundation dot org, LA Foodbank dot org and Redcross
Speaker 1: dot org.
Speaker 2: And I want to share it. One last thing is
Speaker 2: something that I whenever I sign an autograph, a lot
Speaker 2: of the times I'll put on this same tough times
Speaker 2: don't last. Tough people do. You gotta believe. And that's
Speaker 2: what I sincerely believe in my heart. With the rebuild
Speaker 2: of everything that's going to have to happen in this community.
Speaker 2: These times are tough right now, but as long as
Speaker 2: we are tough, we'll get through them. And you always
Speaker 2: gotta believe.
Speaker 1: I actually stole that quote from you. You used to
Speaker 1: say plenty of times in the locker room, Jewels, And
Speaker 1: every time I go and visit a kid at the
Speaker 1: Boston Children Hospital and I'm making a video for a
Speaker 1: kid as well, I always, you know, take that quote
Speaker 1: that you taught me back in the day, back in
Speaker 1: the hey day in the locker room. Hey hey kid,
Speaker 1: let me tell you, tough times don't last and tough people,
Speaker 1: but tough people do. And you're one of those kids
Speaker 1: that will be, you know, lasting, because you're a tough kid.
Speaker 1: You're a tough sob. So I appreciate that quote, Jules,
Speaker 1: you gotta believe. Well, see you guys soon. Keep sticking
Speaker 1: with us. We appreciate and love your support.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into the show. Wild Card dudes,
Speaker 2: Wild card dudes, let's go. One of the wildest moments
Speaker 2: in the locker room is when we walked in and
Speaker 2: Matt Light put an actual live duck in Donald Thomas's
Speaker 2: locker from after practice and he opens up the locker
Speaker 2: He's terrified theres of live duck in there.
Speaker 3: That was like one of the wildest things I saw.
Speaker 1: What about when I showed you my magina.
Speaker 2: That that was usually at seven o'clock every morning. Yes,
Speaker 2: that was wild, but I thought that was that wasn't
Speaker 2: a wildcard moment because it was so consistent. It was predictable.
Speaker 1: Welcome the Dudes on Dudes. I'm Rob Grankowski.
Speaker 2: And I'm Julian Edelman, and this is the show where
Speaker 2: your favorite dudes get to talk about their favorite dudes.
Speaker 1: And since it's wild Card weekend, we're talking about some
Speaker 1: of the wildest dudes in NFL history.
Speaker 2: Who are we talking about today?
Speaker 1: Rob a pioneer in TD celebrations.
Speaker 2: How wild was it when he went to Dallas and
Speaker 2: did the star thing? Maybe a guy that should have
Speaker 2: a freaking sharpy deal signs the ball after a touchdow
Speaker 2: it takes out his sock.
Speaker 1: I got Jules's autograph. Dude, Dude and a dude with
Speaker 1: one of the best nicknames ever, first off, the name change,
Speaker 1: you gotta love it. He was one of the most
Speaker 1: entertaining players.
Speaker 2: He doesn't care, He'll fight anyone. And then we wrap
Speaker 2: it up by building a mount rushmore of the least
Speaker 2: wildest dude, Jules.
Speaker 1: I had never seen you wrap it up, but you
Speaker 1: just did a great job wrapping it up. Good, good,
Speaker 1: good job, you wild dude.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 1: Dudes on Dudes is a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: On today's episode, it's Wildcard Weekend.
Speaker 1: Rob Sure is man that's wild So we love wild things.
Speaker 2: Because it's Wildcard Weekend, we thought it'd be great to
Speaker 2: talk about some dudes that are absolute wild cards. What's
Speaker 2: a wild dude?
Speaker 1: A wild dude is someone that's fun, spontaneous. You really
Speaker 1: don't know what they're gonna do next. It can be
Speaker 1: good or bad.
Speaker 2: Predictability.
Speaker 1: I'm predict the billy one. That's actually the best word
Speaker 1: to describe a wild card dude. But wild cards bring
Speaker 1: everything to life. They bring the energy, you know, to
Speaker 1: the stadium, they bring the energy to the locker room,
Speaker 1: and they bring the energy to the people that are
Speaker 1: just sitting at home and watching them on TV.
Speaker 3: Who's wildness dude, you've met ever?
Speaker 1: Or are we talking football player? Here's a guy, Richie Incognito.
Speaker 1: He's wild wild card. I'm I'm a Richie fan. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, guy's wild. I met him at a party
Speaker 1: way back in my party days. That's all. He's a
Speaker 1: wild card, wild dude, and I wildly loved him.
Speaker 2: Still will never forget a stupid fucking rookie. Fine, yep,
Speaker 2: that's a wild card type. Fine, all right? Who else
Speaker 2: is wild? Nico Kudavid's he's a wild card?
Speaker 1: Yes he is. Love that guy. He's a he's a
Speaker 1: locker room guy and he's wild and he keeps that
Speaker 1: team together, no doubt about that. Who else is there?
Speaker 1: Who's one of the Rick Flair met Rick Flair When
Speaker 1: I was at the Monday night football game in Tampa
Speaker 1: the year when I was uh the whoa. I was
Speaker 1: the captain of the of the crew, of the of
Speaker 1: the fans they called the fans the crew there, and
Speaker 1: I was a captain. I was on the pirate ship,
Speaker 1: you know, waving that knife just scaring everybody, not the knife,
Speaker 1: but the sword.
Speaker 2: Scaring everybody. I was a pirate. Ah.
Speaker 1: I was a wild dude. That was that was a
Speaker 1: wild card having the bucks. Let me hold that sword
Speaker 1: and freaking go up and down with it, you know.
Speaker 2: So, what's the difference between a buccaneer and a pirate.
Speaker 1: Uh, They're kind of the same. Uh. I would say
Speaker 1: a pirate is more scary. A buccaneer is kind of
Speaker 1: like a good pirate. A pirate is someone that's vicious,
Speaker 1: trying to take over anything in sight.
Speaker 2: So is is a pirate like a wild card buccaneer? Yes? Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: Actually that game, it was the first time I've ever
Speaker 1: met Rick Flair. He was wooing all over the place.
Speaker 1: But he's a wild card. Tons of great stories that
Speaker 1: I cannot tell here on air. I would have to
Speaker 1: let Rick Flair tell those stories. But man, what a legend.
Speaker 1: I looked up to him growing up as a kid
Speaker 1: when he was in w W and every other wild
Speaker 1: thing that he has done. But he's a wild card
Speaker 1: and I love it.
Speaker 2: I love this this theme, the wild card. Let's jump
Speaker 2: into it. Why don't we.
Speaker 1: Well hold on first, what's the wildest thing You've ever
Speaker 1: done in a locker room?
Speaker 2: Jules, wildest thing I've ever done in a locker room?
Speaker 2: I don't nothing ah, I don't have any.
Speaker 1: Come on, jewels, you fought like twenty of your own teammates.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that wasn't in the locker room. That was
Speaker 3: on the practice.
Speaker 1: That kind of counts as in the locker room.
Speaker 2: I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I mean not, You're right, I black out on your
Speaker 1: There's really no wild moments actually in the locker room.
Speaker 1: They're kind of more on the field.
Speaker 2: I think one of the wildest moments in the locker
Speaker 2: room is when we walked in and Matt Light put
Speaker 2: an actual live duck in Donald Thomas's locker from after practice.
Speaker 2: He opens up the locker, he's terrified there's a fucking
Speaker 2: live duck in there, because they call him the Duck.
Speaker 2: That's a wild That was like one of the wildest
Speaker 2: things I saw.
Speaker 1: What about when I showed you my Manngina.
Speaker 2: That that was usually at seven o'clock every morning. Yes,
Speaker 2: that was wild, But I thought that was that wasn't
Speaker 2: a wildcar moment because it was so consistent. It was predictable.
Speaker 1: All right, I guess that wasn't a wildcard moment. Then
Speaker 1: I guess I'm not wild. I gotta do something else.
Speaker 2: Ma he did wild car movements on the field.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I sure did. The ping pong games in
Speaker 1: the locker room were pretty wild, pretty wild, but they're
Speaker 1: kind of predictable.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: We knew they were going to be intense games competitive.
Speaker 2: See, we can't remember the wildcard moments. We need to
Speaker 2: get like Jim Whalen on here, he would be able
Speaker 2: to give all the wild moments, remember them. And he
Speaker 2: said he's going to write a book about the Patriots
Speaker 2: one day, and he said he's going to dedicate a
Speaker 2: couple chapters to us. He's been there for a long time,
Speaker 2: that that'll be a must must read book. Right there.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this quick break. Let's get
Speaker 2: on to our guys.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go. Let's see our first wild guy.
Speaker 2: What does AI have to say?
Speaker 1: This dude was born on January ninth, nineteen seventy eight,
Speaker 1: and stands at six foot one and weighs one hundred
Speaker 1: and ninety two pounds. He was drafted as a wide
Speaker 1: receiver in the second round of the two thousand and
Speaker 1: one NFL Draft and played wide receiver for the Bengals, Patriots, Dolphins,
Speaker 1: and the Montreal Alouettes Aluettes. He was a four time
Speaker 1: All pro and the NFL receiving yards leader in two
Speaker 1: thousand and six. Originally from Miami, he played college football
Speaker 1: for Santa Monica College and Oregon State University. Off the field,
Speaker 1: he's known for flamboyant personality and antics, including a name change,
Speaker 1: reality TV appearances, and an act of social media presence. Wow, Jewles,
Speaker 1: who do you think we're talking about?
Speaker 2: Buddy, Let's get on Chad Ocho Cinco.
Speaker 1: Oooh, and what's the first thing you think of, Jules
Speaker 1: when you hear the name Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson?
Speaker 2: The first thing I think of. One of the wildest
Speaker 2: card moments or wildest movies ever. It was we draft
Speaker 2: or we traded for Chad and we went into the
Speaker 2: we were in store the offense and during installation, chadow'
Speaker 2: sha our coach, you know, Chaddio. Yes, all right, guys,
Speaker 2: we got everything. It's all good, you know. Just don't
Speaker 2: be seen. I'm gonna let you out of meetings early.
Speaker 2: Don't be seen. We still have a team meeting. Don't
Speaker 2: be seen. We have a team meeting.
Speaker 1: So so clear this up. You got a lot of
Speaker 1: meetings early, but we have a team meeting still.
Speaker 2: We still had a meeting after so we had like
Speaker 2: an hour and a half for a meeting until the
Speaker 2: next meeting. But Chad had to get some shit done.
Speaker 2: We got everything installed. We had a pretty smart room,
Speaker 2: and so he let us out early. Well, Chad thought
Speaker 2: it was smart. And this is Chad's like first couple
Speaker 2: weeks there, he thought it was be smart to leave
Speaker 2: the facility and on the way out poke his head
Speaker 2: into Bill's office and asked if he wanted anything from
Speaker 2: Starbucks and and so.
Speaker 1: That is what what did he think to not be seen,
Speaker 1: like to not go on I don't know, to not
Speaker 1: post a picture online.
Speaker 2: I think he was just new and he's still trying
Speaker 2: to be friendly in the whole thing. But like it
Speaker 2: was a total accident, total accident. And then you know,
Speaker 2: the next time we had a receiver meeting in the room,
Speaker 2: Osha was like, fucking guy, he got ripped a new
Speaker 2: asshole because you know, what are you doing let guys
Speaker 2: out early? This that it just was a whole thing,
Speaker 2: just a wild like he didn't he didn't understand. But
Speaker 2: that's what I thought of, Like, man, Chad's crazy. The
Speaker 2: whole kiss the baby thing, the whole every it's real.
Speaker 2: He just he just goes off of what he feels,
Speaker 2: off of his instincts. What do you think of when
Speaker 2: you think of Ocho, Well.
Speaker 1: First off, the name change. You gotta love it. He
Speaker 1: was one of the most entertaining players you know, in
Speaker 1: our generation while we were growing up. Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, that's for sure. I truly believe he's a
Speaker 1: Bangal for life. He played for a couple other teams after,
Speaker 1: but one hundred percent Bangal for life. He kind of
Speaker 1: put that why receiver you know, position on the map
Speaker 1: in that era to continue the streak going of you know,
Speaker 1: of being kind of you know, spontaneous, entertaining, entertaining, a
Speaker 1: little bit of drama as well, but also so good
Speaker 1: at the game of football that he can pull it
Speaker 1: off and you know, not be a problem child at
Speaker 1: all in some cases I would say possibly, but just overall,
Speaker 1: he was so good at the game of football. He
Speaker 1: was so quick that he could pull off all that
Speaker 1: dancing that he was doing. He can pull off all
Speaker 1: that trash talk that he was doing, he could pull
Speaker 1: off all those antics off the field during the offseason
Speaker 1: that he was doing going you know, playing soccer with
Speaker 1: the MLS teams kicking extra points as well during the
Speaker 1: preseason games. I mean, this guy had talent, and he
Speaker 1: had so much talent that he could be a wild
Speaker 1: card dude whenever he wanted because of that type of
Speaker 1: talent that he had. And you got to appreciate that
Speaker 1: as well, because it's just cool man to see just
Speaker 1: someone be themselves. That's who he is, you know. It's
Speaker 1: not like he was doing it for a show, which
Speaker 1: it was a show, but he was truly doing it
Speaker 1: because that's just how he was born. And you got
Speaker 1: to respect that aspect of his game and of who
Speaker 1: he is.
Speaker 3: He was like the first guy with a million followers
Speaker 3: on Twitter in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I think Tom absolutely hated that he was on Twitter
Speaker 1: because he was he was mister Twitter. He had like
Speaker 1: three million followers. The second highest person was like two
Speaker 1: hundred thousand in the NFL. And this is in twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: He got traded to the New England Patriots, and he's
Speaker 1: always on Twitter still, and Tom and Coach Ballichick were
Speaker 1: just always grilling him like, oh, get off freaking Twitter.
Speaker 1: Get off Twitter doesn't help you in the game of football.
Speaker 1: But it never really like really, I would say what
Speaker 1: am I trying to say affected his game? Is Twitter
Speaker 1: was just back then they just acted like it did
Speaker 1: you know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we just did things differently in New England
Speaker 2: and he didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't that he didn't comply to it. The funniest
Speaker 1: The point is where I'm getting to is now Tom
Speaker 1: is mister Instagram and mister now and so like or
Speaker 1: mister X. So that was the point I was getting to.
Speaker 2: Well, another thing, he was always known that he loved McDonald's.
Speaker 2: What's your take on that? I mean, that's kind of
Speaker 2: freaky that you could just eat McDonald's.
Speaker 1: McDonald's for most of his career, and he also said
Speaker 1: it helped his body like callous for football. Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's only one guy that could possibly do this.
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of players that sometimes, you know,
Speaker 1: not sometimes eat fast food. But I'm talking like Chad
Speaker 1: did it on a daily basis, breakfast, lunch, dinner. And
Speaker 1: I saw him. He went to that corner store right
Speaker 1: on Route one, right next to let's see, um, there's
Speaker 1: a McDonald's there.
Speaker 2: It's half he's half, it's half in the McDonald half
Speaker 2: liquor store.
Speaker 1: He would go there and he's always in the drive
Speaker 1: through and I saw him one time. He pulled up
Speaker 1: and he was eating the fish filet sandwich.
Speaker 3: I like the fish filet, though. What's your favorite ding McDonald's.
Speaker 1: The coffee bro you like coffee? Got legit coffee there.
Speaker 1: I don't really eat McDonald's. If I do, I get
Speaker 1: a double cheeseburger and I just take the patties off
Speaker 1: of the bread and I just eat the smash Hamburger
Speaker 1: patties with the cheese. I don't like the bread, smash them.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's safe to just eat the meat.
Speaker 1: You know what about the mcgriddle? Oh breakfast, they got
Speaker 1: legit breakfast sausage acing pancakes. Oh, the pancakes are on fire.
Speaker 1: So I'm a breakfast guy at McDonald's. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to really eat, you know, their lunch or dinner.
Speaker 1: No big Mac. Like if I do get the Big Mac,
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm just eating the patties only. But
Speaker 1: it's just impressive, though, Chad ate that McDonald's every single day,
Speaker 1: every single day, body was just a machine. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess if you get used to it, your mind
Speaker 1: is just gonna know what to do. With that type
Speaker 1: of you know, nutrition. So hats off to Ocho sinks
Speaker 1: it's crazy.
Speaker 2: He would like race anim didn't he race a horse?
Speaker 2: He doesn't care. He'll fight anyone. Chad is, so, what
Speaker 2: do you think you can beat a horse in a race?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No chance?
Speaker 3: I mean, would you ever race a horse?
Speaker 2: No chance?
Speaker 1: A horse and I have one thing in common, Jules,
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna tell you.
Speaker 2: What it is.
Speaker 1: I just use your wild imagination.
Speaker 2: I get to understand. Thank you, I understand, thank you.
Speaker 1: Well, he raced a horse for a cherry feed the children.
Speaker 1: You know, he had one hundred meters start and he
Speaker 1: beat the horse, which, you know, props to him. He's silly,
Speaker 1: always just doing silly things.
Speaker 2: Man, he did silly things. But people like when we
Speaker 2: were playing he had elite feet, like his footwork was
Speaker 2: quicker than anyone I knew. And we cut him on
Speaker 2: the tail end of his career, and he still had
Speaker 2: some really insanely quick feet where he meaning he could
Speaker 2: get in and out of breaks. For how tall he
Speaker 2: was at six ' one, he was a real He
Speaker 2: was a skinnier guy. But usually when you're six ' one,
Speaker 2: it's harder for you to get in and out of breaks.
Speaker 2: But if you watch his comebacks, his releases, like he
Speaker 2: was always the separation sheen king to the at the
Speaker 2: top of route, at the beginning of route. He was
Speaker 2: an elite receiver. Now with all the antics and stuff,
Speaker 2: we all remember him that because that's probably because he
Speaker 2: didn't win. But he was a fucking elite receiver that
Speaker 2: had a lot of production for a long time in
Speaker 2: this league.
Speaker 1: He was so quick. He had the best releases in
Speaker 1: the game as well. And like you said, I think
Speaker 1: he was the quickest play. He had the quickest feet
Speaker 1: in the game of football. Was like poppupp.
Speaker 2: On.
Speaker 1: He would go side to side with it as well.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure he's a great line dancer as well.
Speaker 2: He won Dancing with the Stars, did he? Fourth?
Speaker 1: Came in? Fourth? Four? Right. There's one thing that's always certain,
Speaker 1: he said, and that's death taxes and eighty five gonna
Speaker 1: always be open, always open. He gotta love him for that,
Speaker 1: and he was always open. Besides, when he got to
Speaker 1: New England, well he was. He was struggling a little
Speaker 1: bit there.
Speaker 2: Why do you think he struggled.
Speaker 1: I just think he struggled because you know, just a
Speaker 1: complicity of the playbook a little bit. I feel like
Speaker 1: he had the freelance to do whatever he wanted to
Speaker 1: do in Cincinnati, and then when he got to New England,
Speaker 1: it was more of a structure like this is what
Speaker 1: you gotta do. This is how you get open. It's
Speaker 1: not like you're gonna be able to just freelance and
Speaker 1: play backyard football. I feel like he played backyard football
Speaker 1: a little bit more with the Cincinnati Bengals. Tom wanted
Speaker 1: it like that, but possibly he wanted to do it
Speaker 1: like that, but he couldn't do it like that because
Speaker 1: Tom wanted it like that. I mean, it just didn't
Speaker 1: really work out to the tea that you know, we
Speaker 1: wanted it to obviously what what coach Belichick wanted to
Speaker 1: do and as teammates as well. But there's one thing
Speaker 1: though that we know we got blessed with the presence
Speaker 1: of Chad ol Jo Sinko for that whole entire year,
Speaker 1: and that's what is more important is just to be
Speaker 1: around a great dude and just to see, you know,
Speaker 1: how he carried himself to just one of the greatest
Speaker 1: wide receivers of the game.
Speaker 3: Do you have any stories about Chad we went out.
Speaker 1: To dinner actually during training camp, and he was just
Speaker 1: a great character man. I like he always got the
Speaker 1: waitress wound up, you know, he got her wound up, cracking.
Speaker 2: Jokes like you know, where'd you guys go?
Speaker 1: We went Toby Keith's Iron Grill right there at Patriot Place,
Speaker 1: and he would be flirting and then the waitress would
Speaker 1: be flirting back with us, and like, you're just such
Speaker 1: an awe because we were such young bucks. And just
Speaker 1: how he was so spontaneous and so quick with his game,
Speaker 1: Like the way he would speak and talk and have game,
Speaker 1: it was like his feet were running his mouth like
Speaker 1: just that quick, you know. And then what's so great
Speaker 1: about it is like he would leave her hanging though,
Speaker 1: because he would give like an outrageous tip to her
Speaker 1: and then like didn't leave his number anything, like he
Speaker 1: would get the you know, he would get the waitress.
Speaker 2: He just gets He's just outgoing. He just he likes
Speaker 2: to push people's buttons, I think.
Speaker 1: Exactly give her an outrageous tip, and then we would
Speaker 1: all just leave and the waitress be like, oh what wait,
Speaker 1: where'd he go? Like I didn't get his number or anything.
Speaker 1: But he would just bounce.
Speaker 2: On Chad was so fun.
Speaker 1: It was fun.
Speaker 2: Also could kick. He had a big soccer background, and
Speaker 2: I think that's probably what helped him with such great feet,
Speaker 2: quick feet that he had. I mean, I remember Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: their kicker got hurt. He kicked a field goal. He
Speaker 2: he kicked a couple fields. I think he kicked a
Speaker 2: thirty yarder. He played in soccer leagues. I think he
Speaker 2: tried to play in a professional league at one point.
Speaker 1: He tried out for the Kansas City MLS team during
Speaker 1: the twenty eleven NFL lockout, And while he was trying
Speaker 1: to do that, I was doing my wild, wild dude
Speaker 1: shit jewels. I was at the University of Arizona during
Speaker 1: that lockout, and I was at the pool parties, dancing
Speaker 1: up on the stage and everything. At the pool parties,
Speaker 1: I was freaking pounding beers and everyone's like, Oh, You're
Speaker 1: gonna be in big trouble by coach Belichick after the lockout.
Speaker 1: But what did I do? I showed up and I
Speaker 1: was just as wild out on that football field and
Speaker 1: training camp.
Speaker 2: Baby.
Speaker 1: That was my favorite off season was after my rookie
Speaker 1: year because we didn't have to go in at all
Speaker 1: at all and I got to be wild as possible
Speaker 1: because I had a little bit of money. I was
Speaker 1: twenty one years old and I was just running around
Speaker 1: college campuses just being an absolute wild maniac. It was
Speaker 1: the greatest offseason of my career, no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: What did you do during the lockout, Jewels, I just
Speaker 1: told you what I was doing.
Speaker 2: I actually took a couple of classes at Kent. I
Speaker 2: was in La trained out here. Didn't we have like
Speaker 2: a fucking uh We had like a couple of team
Speaker 2: practices at BC during the lockout number that when we
Speaker 2: when Brady called a couple we did.
Speaker 1: We had about three practices at BC. That was really cool.
Speaker 1: That that just shows the leadership of Tom, just how
Speaker 1: wild of a leader he was. Tom wasn't a wild car.
Speaker 1: He was a wild leader and that that just shows
Speaker 1: you know why he's, you know, one of the actually
Speaker 1: the greatest player to play.
Speaker 3: Could Chad kick the field goal kick of destiny?
Speaker 2: For that you do everywhere? Yeah? One hundred percent, so easy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He kicked an extra point in the preseason game, which
Speaker 1: that's a lot harder than kicking the kick of destiny.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have a line no one's snapping it.
Speaker 1: The balls just set sitting there on a tee for
Speaker 1: you and it's easy, just a layup and freaking I
Speaker 1: missed twice, So Chad out, Josinko, I actually need you
Speaker 1: for the kick of destiny. I'm actually not doing it
Speaker 1: this year, but in the future I'll possibly be doing
Speaker 1: it again. So I want Chad o Jo Sinka as
Speaker 1: my coach or my replacement for the kick.
Speaker 2: Of Now, how far is the kick of destiny?
Speaker 1: Ooh, twenty five yards?
Speaker 2: So it's twenty five yards.
Speaker 1: I was kicking it on the fifteen yard line.
Speaker 2: And so how far do you think they would have
Speaker 2: to handicap Chad's kick?
Speaker 3: Because he can kick it better, so we'd have to bring.
Speaker 1: I would say he would have to kick a forty yarder.
Speaker 2: A forty I think he got forty easy.
Speaker 1: Though, I mean, but no, he does it forty easy.
Speaker 1: But that's the point I missed the last two years.
Speaker 1: So we need someone to make it now, okay, And
Speaker 1: we want him to make it as well for the
Speaker 1: fans out there and for fan duel and for just
Speaker 1: the kick of destiny. But what about his TD celebrations
Speaker 1: as well? He was one of the best in the game.
Speaker 1: He wore the gold jacket that said future Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame two thousand with two question marks as a post
Speaker 1: touchdown celebration. How about the cheerleader proposal. I actually got
Speaker 1: to take some tips from you because I'm now dating
Speaker 1: a cheerleader. I've been Chad al Chosenko. So you proposed
Speaker 1: in the first freaking four seconds to matter, which is
Speaker 1: pretty impressive. So call me up. I need some tips, brother.
Speaker 1: And then he was putting the football like a damn
Speaker 1: golf ball as well. When he did I never done that, man.
Speaker 1: My craziest TV celebration was just spiking the ball. Or
Speaker 1: actually when I was you know the one in London
Speaker 1: as well, when I did the booty shaking, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was pretty impressive.
Speaker 2: Then you did the soldier.
Speaker 1: I did the soldier of guarding the Buckingham.
Speaker 2: Palace Buckingham Palace.
Speaker 1: Wi.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now he remember he didn't he uh? He took
Speaker 2: the camera once and was filming. This was like the
Speaker 2: full generation of overly celebrated, crazy, get your popcorn ready
Speaker 2: celebrations by receivers. Remember like Joe Horn he was taking
Speaker 2: cell phones out. You got Chad doing everything Chad's doing
Speaker 2: t O and his celebrations. I mean just this was
Speaker 2: like the era where they were getting fired. They were
Speaker 2: they were getting penalized for it too. They didn't give
Speaker 2: a they didn't care. But it was still fun. You know.
Speaker 2: That was the No Fun League at the time.
Speaker 1: It was. I remember that when that everyone was translating
Speaker 1: NFL as to be the league because they kept finding
Speaker 1: Ocho Cinco and all the other guys that were being entertaining,
Speaker 1: you know, to the to the fans.
Speaker 2: So James Harrison or Ocho Cinco, they're fighting here soon
Speaker 2: super Bowl weekend. M M A style. Who are you
Speaker 2: going with?
Speaker 1: Uh? It's i'm m A style. I'm going with uh,
Speaker 1: obviously James Harrison.
Speaker 2: The thing is that this is how crazy Chad is.
Speaker 2: Why the fuck are you fighting James Harrison? Who I
Speaker 2: think he knocked him out of a game once.
Speaker 1: James Harrison is a freak of nature. He's just gonna
Speaker 1: get a hold of Ocho Cinco and just break them
Speaker 1: in this thing thing box Sinko is gonna have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: boxing is different story. This is i'm ma now, this
Speaker 1: is i'm may style. Like James can put his hands
Speaker 1: on him and do whatever he wants. To do to him.
Speaker 2: James plays volleyball with like eighty pound balls. Remember when
Speaker 2: he throws it over the thing? He does so you
Speaker 2: know he can catch motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sinkles wild wild. I love it though, keeping wild
Speaker 1: Ojo time, let's go. What kind of dude is Chad
Speaker 1: o Joe Sinkle? Ladies and gentlemen, dude is chat Come
Speaker 1: on now, I wouldn't really say freak. I mean his
Speaker 1: feet were freaking.
Speaker 2: Freaky freaky feet.
Speaker 1: Yes, dudes, dude, Yeah, he was man. He was all
Speaker 1: about the guys. He was.
Speaker 2: He brought us out to dinner. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He always invited in New England, invited everyone in the round.
Speaker 1: He was a dude's dude, no doubt about that. Whiz whizz.
Speaker 1: I won't really go that far because, like I said,
Speaker 1: I think he struggled with the with our playbook.
Speaker 2: A little bit.
Speaker 1: Bit.
Speaker 2: So did I.
Speaker 1: I didn't even play my rookie year because I didn't
Speaker 1: know our playbook. It's very tough. It's a it's a
Speaker 1: very tough playbook.
Speaker 2: It's very I dog in him too. I mean, he
Speaker 2: don't care. He'll he'll freaking challenge anything, anyone to anything.
Speaker 2: I mean he raced a horse. He'll box you. He
Speaker 2: doesn't care. But I think he's I think he's a stud.
Speaker 1: I think he's a stud as well. I feel like
Speaker 1: that feet, you know, field goal.
Speaker 2: He's doing off the field. Now, he's just he's a
Speaker 2: lovable guy. But he was always he always had a
Speaker 2: He's a stud. To me, he is a stud.
Speaker 1: I mean just the way you know, he presented himself
Speaker 1: on the field and off the field. That's when you
Speaker 1: know you're Stutley, you know. And he was so fast,
Speaker 1: and he was such a stud that he had to
Speaker 1: race a horse because horses are studs. So that makes
Speaker 1: Chad Alcho Sinko a stud.
Speaker 2: A stud keeps the girl waiting at the bar, yes,
Speaker 2: like like he did. Yes, he knows that. You know,
Speaker 2: he could have probably took the little lady on a date,
Speaker 2: but just just did it just to I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's a stud, just to be a stud.
Speaker 2: On three one two three. Stud.
Speaker 3: Let's get on to the next guy.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Who we got all right?
Speaker 2: You ready?
Speaker 1: The synopsis of wild Card number two, Oh Bud. Standing
Speaker 1: at six foot three inches and weighing two hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty four pounds, this dude was a prolific wide receiver
Speaker 1: in the NFL, playing for the San Francisco forty nine Ers,
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Egos, Dallas Cowboys, Buffalo Bills, and the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 1: Drafted in the third round of the nineteen ninety six
Speaker 1: NFL Draft by the forty nine Ers, he is renowned
Speaker 1: for his exceptional hands and ability to make plays. He
Speaker 1: ranks third in NFL history in both receiving yards and touchdowns.
Speaker 1: He was a six time Pro Bowl selection and was
Speaker 1: named to the two thousands All Decade Team. Born in
Speaker 1: Alexander City, Alabama, known for his flamboyant touchdown celebrations, he
Speaker 1: was often seen as a decisive figure off the field.
Speaker 1: He was elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eighteen. Jules, what wild dude are
Speaker 1: we talking about right now? Right here? As wild due
Speaker 1: Er two, Let's get on t O. T oh Man
Speaker 1: was a wild dude. What's the wildest thing that comes
Speaker 1: to your mind when you hear of Terrell Owens aka
Speaker 1: t O?
Speaker 3: The first thing that comes to my mind him doing
Speaker 3: sit ups in front of his house on a sit
Speaker 3: up like bench with all the media outside of him.
Speaker 1: Was it?
Speaker 2: During his suspension.
Speaker 1: It was it was during his suspension when he got
Speaker 1: suspended by the Philadelphia Eagle.
Speaker 2: He looked yoked. He looked yoked, and he looked yoked.
Speaker 1: What I remember that press conference that he did outside
Speaker 1: of his home when he was doing the sit ups,
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you I was. I was such in
Speaker 1: shock of how yoked he was and how ripped that
Speaker 1: I truly didn't believe that I could play in the
Speaker 1: NFL from there, because I thought that's what you had
Speaker 1: to look like in order to catch past in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, absolute specimen, absolute freak of nature. He looked
Speaker 1: like the guy didn't have an ounce of fat on him,
Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, I want to look like
Speaker 1: that one day. Man, that guy is ripped.
Speaker 3: Great smile too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's beautiful. He is freaking t o. Man. He
Speaker 2: I grew up watching him and I saw I mean,
Speaker 2: I remember when it just changed overnight. You know. He
Speaker 2: he struggled with drops early in his career, and then
Speaker 2: it was that wild card weekend or divisional round game
Speaker 2: against Green Bay where Steve Young almost fell in his
Speaker 2: drop and hit him down the middle of the field
Speaker 2: on a split split safety seam and Terrell caught a
Speaker 2: ball in front in between three guys, got crunch, made
Speaker 2: the play, they won the game, and like.
Speaker 3: From there on out, he just took off and is.
Speaker 1: That the play that he you know, started crying right
Speaker 1: after he made the catch. That just shows that someone
Speaker 1: loves the game of football as well to have that
Speaker 1: type of emotion after a play like that and then
Speaker 1: you're crying right there and then on the field.
Speaker 2: He's an emotional guy.
Speaker 1: That's that's the That's when you know you love the
Speaker 1: game of football. Though, when a play can make you cry.
Speaker 2: He loved You could tell he he loved he loved football.
Speaker 2: He liked playing football. I don't know, but he didn't
Speaker 2: love you know. There's a lot of the team stuff
Speaker 2: where you know he Andy Reid is considered probably the
Speaker 2: most like he's a big player coach right from what
Speaker 2: we hear.
Speaker 1: I played the coach that takes no ship.
Speaker 2: And he had to get him out and they traded
Speaker 2: him in the division to Cowboys. That's crazy to me.
Speaker 2: That's a wild move I've heard though. If you go in,
Speaker 2: if you go against like your rival, that's like one
Speaker 2: of the oldest rivalries in goddamn football. Philly fucking Cowboys,
Speaker 2: and he was still elite. Like that's how wild of
Speaker 2: a dude you have to be.
Speaker 1: He was wild in all aspects. He was wild, you know,
Speaker 1: playing the game of football. He was wild off the field.
Speaker 1: He was wild with touchdown celebrations. But he was also
Speaker 1: wild with what he was going through when playing in
Speaker 1: some of the games, like the broken leg or the
Speaker 1: broken ankle in the Super Bowl. It's crazy he broke
Speaker 1: he literally broke his ankle like toward the er whatever
Speaker 1: it was, it was basically broken. He played against the
Speaker 1: Pats in Super Bowl thirty nine. What he he had
Speaker 1: what I think like nine receptions for one hundred twenty
Speaker 1: plus yards. Yeah, from what I recall, guest, New England
Speaker 1: won that Super Bowl baby, twenty four to twenty one.
Speaker 1: But obviously Philadelphia Eagles they got us back when they
Speaker 1: beat us in what twenty seventy seventeen. That's because Julian
Speaker 1: wasn't playing. Jules, if you were playing, we would have
Speaker 1: won that game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, game, you had no problem on offense that year.
Speaker 1: And what's wild about it too, is he signed a
Speaker 1: waiver to go against the doctor's orders in order to
Speaker 1: play that game because the doctors were telling him that
Speaker 1: he couldn't play because of how significant the injury was.
Speaker 1: But he was so wild, so ambitious, and loved the
Speaker 1: game of football so much, and he was so wild
Speaker 1: in his rehab that he got himself to the point
Speaker 1: where he was able to play in that Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: And like I said, I'm gonna say it again, nine receptions
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty two yards. What two weeks after
Speaker 1: breaking your ankle or three weeks or whatever it was,
Speaker 1: I don't know it was. Actually I think he broke it.
Speaker 1: It was week fifteen, so he had about four or
Speaker 1: five weeks to recover and I play in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: That's fast, bro. You gotta give him credit. Man. He's
Speaker 2: like one of those ultra competitors where like, it doesn't
Speaker 2: matter what's going on outside the game, whenever you put
Speaker 2: him inside the lines, he's gonna ball. And when I
Speaker 2: watch his film, he's a he's absolutely a freak out
Speaker 2: there with how big he was, with how he could
Speaker 2: catch the ball. He looked like a tight end in
Speaker 2: the middle of the field. But he's fast, He's fucking
Speaker 2: you know what. You never saw anyone catch t o
Speaker 2: from behind?
Speaker 1: How did he remind you, remind me of you. I
Speaker 1: agree with that, bro. What I loved about TiO on
Speaker 1: the field, especially his young days. Bro, this guy was strong, strong,
Speaker 1: long legs, strong legs, and the most important thing was
Speaker 1: he never got tired. To be that size six ' four,
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty plus hounds and to never get tired.
Speaker 1: Yapp in his mouth throing his antics going for over
Speaker 1: a hundred plus its a game, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean? Because of what's it? Because of
Speaker 2: because he was drafted to San Francisco, and he saw
Speaker 2: how Jerry Rice was, and Jerry Rice was the most
Speaker 2: in shape mother in the history of the goddamn game.
Speaker 2: And I guarantee, regardless of ow and shape t was,
Speaker 2: Jerry was Jerry still. And then once you know, I
Speaker 2: remember the day on Jerry Rices day, that freaking t
Speaker 2: O caught twenty damn balls on Jerry Rice's last game
Speaker 2: in the as a Niner. But like having that horse,
Speaker 2: that rabbit horse, of what Jerry Rice was helped make
Speaker 2: too how crazy TiO was because in the back of
Speaker 2: his mind, He's probably thinking, man, that's the greatest receiver.
Speaker 2: I'm better than him. But he saw how Jerry prepared
Speaker 2: so he probably took a little bit of that.
Speaker 1: That's a good point, man, well said. And and what
Speaker 1: also made Too so great as a football player as well.
Speaker 1: He was so explosives, so explosive, it didn't matter if
Speaker 1: it was coming you know, right off the line into
Speaker 1: the route or after making the catch. He would just
Speaker 1: explode right up the field. And he was so strong
Speaker 1: because you could tell you he was so strong because
Speaker 1: like you said, he reminded me of me. I would
Speaker 1: just say a little bit skinnier and at the wide receiver.
Speaker 2: Positions, but he's kind of like AJ Brown. Yes, he
Speaker 2: reminds me of AJ Brown.
Speaker 1: And anyone that tried tackling him, he would just throw
Speaker 1: the defender right off of him.
Speaker 2: T O broke tackle tackles.
Speaker 1: He broke tackles like no other wide receiver broke tackles.
Speaker 1: That's why he kind of reminds me of myself. It
Speaker 1: looked like he was a mini me just running through
Speaker 1: the defense. And he was so physical as well at
Speaker 1: top of the route. That's what got him open plenty
Speaker 1: of times. On top of having a deep ball and
Speaker 1: running by a defender. That's what made Tho so great
Speaker 1: and special and special as well, and that's why he's
Speaker 1: a top five receiver of all time, all times five.
Speaker 2: I mean, you watch his film on like five different teams.
Speaker 2: Even when he was old guy, he was still making
Speaker 2: crazy play. I mean, he played in a professional game
Speaker 2: I think like four years ago at fifty. Like he's
Speaker 2: still a.
Speaker 1: Spe He's playing in basketball leagues, celebrity basketball games. Doesn't
Speaker 1: get tired, and he's always he's always ready to go. Man,
Speaker 1: he's never sore. I feel like every time I see him,
Speaker 1: he's just full speed.
Speaker 2: How wild was it when he went to fucking Dallas
Speaker 2: and did the star thing? Well? What was wild?
Speaker 1: Well, that was when he was on San Francisco he
Speaker 1: did the star thing that Emitt Smith came back and
Speaker 1: did the star thing. He's so freaking wild that he
Speaker 1: went back and did it again after scoring another touchdown.
Speaker 1: Asked how wild too is? And he had Dallas absolutely
Speaker 1: hate him. And then what was so wild in the
Speaker 1: end is he got traded to Dallas at you know,
Speaker 1: some point in his career from Philadelphia Eagles, and then
Speaker 1: they fell in love with him in Dallas as well
Speaker 1: because he was such a baller and so wild out
Speaker 1: there on the field and had a freaking like fifty
Speaker 1: wild TD celebrations as well in Dallas.
Speaker 2: What other TD I remember him doing the popcorn in
Speaker 2: the face. Oh wait up, he tossed me a ball
Speaker 2: real quick.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I got you here here, Julee. Oh oh,
Speaker 1: Tony Romo, Tony oh, touch it touchdown.
Speaker 2: One of the most famous one that we saw, even
Speaker 2: influenced Christian McCaffrey on one of our.
Speaker 1: Episodes when You're seven years old.
Speaker 2: Seven years old takes out signs the ball after a touchdown,
Speaker 2: takes out his sock. How fucking crazy. It's kind of
Speaker 2: like when you took out the easy button on your
Speaker 2: fucking out of your out of the thing I.
Speaker 1: Got he influenced. I got Jewles's autograph. Dude, dude, I'm
Speaker 1: going right to eBay. Baby, I need some money in
Speaker 1: my bank account. How much will I get, Jules?
Speaker 2: Probably three hundred bucks? Did he influence you to take
Speaker 2: out the easy button?
Speaker 1: Because actually that is exactly who influenced me, because once
Speaker 1: I saw the easy button in my locker when Staple
Speaker 1: sent it to me, I actually was like, Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna hide this behind the goalposts. No, he hid something
Speaker 1: behind a goal that.
Speaker 2: Was Joe horn with the cell phone. Ocho, what Ocho
Speaker 2: tried to hide the easy button?
Speaker 1: Put it this way. I was inspired by Ceo and
Speaker 1: Chad Ocho come, and that's what made me do the
Speaker 1: easy button, you know, celebration in practice, because those two
Speaker 1: guys inspired me to be freaking absolutely wild. So here
Speaker 1: we go sign football right here, inspired by Too, and
Speaker 1: we'll be giving this football away everyone.
Speaker 2: One lucky fan. Best comment section in something. We'll discover
Speaker 2: what it is. But you gotta do something really cool.
Speaker 2: What else we got? Do we miss anything else?
Speaker 1: Yeah? What I really love about Too as well, and
Speaker 1: what made him such a beast on the field and
Speaker 1: so hard to tackle is the way he ran and
Speaker 1: the way he just got his knees up in the air.
Speaker 1: He ran with high knees. When you run with high
Speaker 1: knees like that, it's hired to take someone out and
Speaker 1: especially catch him from behind. And that's why he looked like,
Speaker 1: what are those gazelles out there? He looked like a
Speaker 1: gazelle when he was running, like kind of like a
Speaker 1: horse as well, and that's why no one can catch him.
Speaker 1: And that's why he was so great, so fast, so talented,
Speaker 1: because of those high knees, that.
Speaker 2: Drive that he has. How old is TL right now?
Speaker 1: He's fifty.
Speaker 2: He still looks great, man, he still looks like a
Speaker 2: professional athlete. If you see I saw him like maybe
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago somewhere. He was cool as fuck.
Speaker 2: He still looked like you could go out what a fuck.
Speaker 2: El Dorado is his middle name, El Dorado, Torrell al
Speaker 2: Dorado Owens elder. That is a sick I would have
Speaker 2: gone as El Dorado, el Dorado Owens.
Speaker 1: I would have been a badass football name.
Speaker 2: El Dorado.
Speaker 1: Imagine's putting al Dorado. I'm back of a jersey name
Speaker 1: el Dorado. Why don't you give me some man? You
Speaker 1: don't know that song.
Speaker 3: What's the craziest injury that you played through?
Speaker 1: I would say, Uh, I basically did the same thing.
Speaker 1: Uh when I basically snapped my ankle in half AFC
Speaker 1: Championship game a Baltimore Ravens. I came back in that
Speaker 1: game about fifteen minutes later and played, you know, about
Speaker 1: eight minutes with eight minutes left in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: So that was one of the craziest injuries I played through. Oh. Also,
Speaker 1: I broke six of my ribs when I was in Tampa,
Speaker 1: I got level going across the middle. Tom set me
Speaker 1: up once again.
Speaker 3: I think we've we talked about that, didn't we I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, like we talked about that already.
Speaker 1: And I broke six of my ribs and then the
Speaker 1: x ray machine showed that I didn't break any ribs.
Speaker 1: So I went back in the game, like, oh, I can't.
Speaker 1: I gotta go back and I can't, you know, be
Speaker 1: a be a sissy. The x ray machine said I
Speaker 1: had no broken ribs. So I go back in the game,
Speaker 1: get two more catches. I'm like, I'm hurting, bro, I'm
Speaker 1: hurting like this, this this is bad. So I take
Speaker 1: myself back out of the game. We go home, and
Speaker 1: then I get an MRI and I have six broken ribs.
Speaker 1: Jesus so I played through that. That was That was painful.
Speaker 1: That was painful.
Speaker 2: What about him and Ocho having a TV show together?
Speaker 1: I remember it was hosted by like Kevin Fraser and
Speaker 1: it was like a network.
Speaker 2: We really never heard of it. But what would our
Speaker 2: show be called? Name? That's the Tohow. That's a pretty
Speaker 2: good name. How about theo Gronky Nuts. Gronky Nuts. I
Speaker 2: like it gronk and jewels, gronking jewels.
Speaker 3: And then last, let us know what you guys think
Speaker 3: of our show.
Speaker 2: It should be Also, we'd be crazy if we don't
Speaker 2: talk about when he started crying about Tony Romo and
Speaker 2: that's my quarterback.
Speaker 3: You know how many times I've used that in just
Speaker 3: like a jokingly term.
Speaker 1: I've heard you use it plenty of times. What about
Speaker 1: his shades though, those those are some pretty awful shades.
Speaker 2: I liked them. I thought they were swaggy.
Speaker 1: I was not a fan of them.
Speaker 2: I bet you he's just a misunderstood dude. He's got
Speaker 2: a lot of emotions in there. I wonder what his
Speaker 2: upbringing was because he would have those bursts, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. But you knew he loved the game.
Speaker 1: Well, what kind of dude is Torell Owens jewels?
Speaker 2: I think it's easy for this one. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: he could put them in as a dog because he's
Speaker 2: a dog. He's definitely a stud whiz. He's uh, he's
Speaker 2: could be a whiz.
Speaker 1: I mean he definitely it was all purpose on the field.
Speaker 1: I mean he could take handoffs as well. He could
Speaker 1: do everything on the Yeah, he was he was an
Speaker 1: everything on football player besides a running back.
Speaker 3: But I think it's one thing and one thing only.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. I mean, this guy had
Speaker 1: unparallel physical abilities still one up one, his instincts were
Speaker 1: through the roof. I I gotta go.
Speaker 2: One, two, three, freak, absolute freaking nature.
Speaker 1: I got another question real quick, Jewels, would you cry
Speaker 1: for Tom Brady?
Speaker 2: I did cry for Tom Brady, but it wasn't in
Speaker 2: the same context. It was when I read about him
Speaker 2: leaving New England and without you know, reading it from him.
Speaker 2: I read it on ESPN bottom ticker that Brady signed
Speaker 2: to Tampa Bay, and then you know, I had a
Speaker 2: single tier run down my my beard. I just saw
Speaker 2: him three days before too, Jimmy fucking fallin at the
Speaker 2: goddamn Syracuse game. The guy didn't hint anything to me.
Speaker 1: I feel for you, Jules.
Speaker 3: Would you cry for him?
Speaker 1: I have?
Speaker 2: Are you gonna cry right now? Let's see if you can?
Speaker 2: Can you cry on command?
Speaker 1: I'm just crying just thinking about a good times I think.
Speaker 2: Is that I see a tear.
Speaker 1: I'm trying.
Speaker 2: I see a tear. I'm trying.
Speaker 1: I just tried. I almost I almost got a tear. Wow,
Speaker 1: I almost got a tear. That was pretty good. Hey, good,
Speaker 1: I think I'm actually feeling more emotional.
Speaker 2: Now, where did you go to get the emotion?
Speaker 1: I just thought about all our Super Bowl wins and
Speaker 1: how much work we put in and and how it's
Speaker 1: all over.
Speaker 2: That's what you pulled from to get the tier I
Speaker 2: need to. I'm working on my tears. I just did
Speaker 2: an audition where I had to have a sex scene
Speaker 2: with the guy over zoom. Oh, I didn't get the
Speaker 2: fucking roll.
Speaker 1: That's good. I'm glad you did itje us God, it
Speaker 1: would be the definition of dudes on dudes.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this quick break. Let's get
Speaker 2: on to the next guy. Aie, all right, who we
Speaker 2: got here? Who's our last guy?
Speaker 1: Standing at five foot ten inches and weighing one hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty five pounds, this dude was a dynamic cornerback
Speaker 1: and return specialist in the NFL. He played for the
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, Dallas Cowboys, Cincinnati Bengals, and Denver Broncos. Drafted
Speaker 1: six overall in the two thousand and five NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: he was known for his exceptional speed and agility, highlighted
Speaker 1: by a four to three to eight second forty yard dash.
Speaker 1: In his career, he was named to three Pro Bowls
Speaker 1: and a first team All Pro selection. Before his NFL career,
Speaker 1: he made a name for himself at West Virginia University.
Speaker 2: Let's get on pac Man Jones.
Speaker 1: Jus, what's the first thing you think of when you
Speaker 1: hear the name Adam pac Man Jones?
Speaker 2: Well, the first thing I think of is Bengal formation.
Speaker 2: Remember we had a series of formations. It was an
Speaker 2: empty formation where that F moved so Tiger, our reminder
Speaker 2: was Kevin Falk. The F was always Kevin Falk. He
Speaker 2: was in the slot, yes Brown, he was always outside,
Speaker 2: so you always knew where everyone was. The F was
Speaker 2: on the outside of the formation. For Bengal, we learned
Speaker 2: Bengal that he was all the way inside the formation
Speaker 2: because Bengals always went to jail. And I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: pac Man went to a couple of those things, and
Speaker 2: he had a couple of those antiques.
Speaker 3: He was part of our learning of a formation.
Speaker 1: Who came up with that creation?
Speaker 3: Bengals are always in jail.
Speaker 1: I wish you shared that knowledge with me. I would
Speaker 1: have understood the playbook a lot easier.
Speaker 2: Well, on that side. You were always on the back side.
Speaker 2: So the Y and the X were always they didn't move.
Speaker 2: It was always the front side of the formation that
Speaker 2: had to move on that series of formations.
Speaker 3: That's how crazy our fucking formation was.
Speaker 2: But that's the first thing I think of when I
Speaker 2: think of pac Man, because I remember when we were
Speaker 2: installing this formation, CHATTYO brought up you know, pac Man
Speaker 2: got caught up at the Strip club. Again.
Speaker 3: Those Bengals are always in jail. That's just how you
Speaker 3: guys remind it.
Speaker 1: And I can tell you this, if you're if you're
Speaker 1: at Bengal and you're in jail, you're gonna be a
Speaker 1: tough SOB, that's for sure. And that's the type of
Speaker 1: player that he was out on the football field. He
Speaker 1: was tough, he could tackle. I mean, he wasn't the
Speaker 1: biggest dB, but let me tell you, he acted like
Speaker 1: he was the biggest act. He played like a linebacker.
Speaker 1: He was like, how did you describe it earlier? Coming
Speaker 1: off of the ads.
Speaker 2: He knifeed it.
Speaker 1: So what he wasn't just one of those plastic knives.
Speaker 1: It was a freaking a steak knife.
Speaker 3: He was definitely like a steak knife.
Speaker 2: So a lot. I remember a lot of the coaching
Speaker 2: plans when we'd have pac Man, they would play him
Speaker 2: into the boundary corner. He'd be a boundary corner, and
Speaker 2: a lot of times they would play a cover two
Speaker 2: and pac Man would be the last or he would
Speaker 2: be the outside edge defender, so like we'd always have
Speaker 2: to worry. It almost looked like it was a blitz
Speaker 2: because he was crunching so much and he was knifeing
Speaker 2: so much. But it was just he was such an
Speaker 2: instinctive smart player that he knew because of formation that
Speaker 2: he could go in there. So you always had to
Speaker 2: be on your p's and q's when you had pac
Speaker 2: Man in the boundary because he was so elite in
Speaker 2: the run game as a corner, like he was an
Speaker 2: unbelievable punt returner. I used to watch him all the
Speaker 2: time as a punp returner because I would always like
Speaker 2: to watch the best punp returners in the league to
Speaker 2: see how they were getting open. And he was just
Speaker 2: such a fast guy. He knew how, he had great
Speaker 2: field awareness, great field vision. He put his foot in
Speaker 2: the ground and he would go and he could outrun people.
Speaker 2: He was elite speed. I mean you don't go six
Speaker 2: overall from West Virginia, which West Virginia had a lot
Speaker 2: of players at this time. You got to tip your
Speaker 2: cap and Pat White, you know, McAfee went there that
Speaker 2: they had a lot of good players. But he went
Speaker 2: six overall at five ten. You know that's crazy. It
Speaker 2: doesn't matter if you have elite speed or not. So
Speaker 2: that tells you how good of a football player he was.
Speaker 2: What do you see?
Speaker 1: I mean he was scrappy, talked a lot of shit.
Speaker 2: Meet him on the spot on the field a couple
Speaker 2: of times.
Speaker 1: I mean he've almost fall freaking fifty different NFL players
Speaker 1: out on the football field because he would get under
Speaker 1: their skin. I respected it, though, Yeah, yeah, you definitely
Speaker 1: had a respect to because that was him. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like it was just coming out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: It was him.
Speaker 1: It was him, no, and you gotta appreciate that. What
Speaker 1: I really loved about him too, just as ball skills man,
Speaker 1: whenever he was around the ball, it would.
Speaker 2: Be tipped up in the air, he was bringing up down.
Speaker 1: He had wide receiver hands and uh, you want to
Speaker 1: kind of know what he reminds me of because he
Speaker 1: had so many returns as a kickoff returner and punt returner,
Speaker 1: but also when he would return the ball on an interception.
Speaker 1: Is that he looked like a third down running back.
Speaker 1: He running with that ball. Man, I feel like he
Speaker 1: could have played the running back position because of just
Speaker 1: how shifty he was and just how his hands were.
Speaker 1: They were they were very you know, very uh well,
Speaker 1: am I looking for consistent consistent of being able to
Speaker 1: catch the ball. So he was a third down back
Speaker 1: playing corner and you talked about him like he was
Speaker 1: a middle linebacker like but really on top of it,
Speaker 1: he was a great cover guy, you know, great ball skills,
Speaker 1: like I said, and like yeah, And I got a
Speaker 1: little story my rookie year. I mean it was pac
Speaker 1: Man Jones out there, why cover, going one on one
Speaker 1: versus whoever he was covering, and West was in the
Speaker 1: slot and uh he but we did a quick pass
Speaker 1: to West, so you know at the you know, lined
Speaker 1: up inside at the tight end position. You know how
Speaker 1: I bolt out there and I gotta go bock to
Speaker 1: block the dB. And this is my first game I've
Speaker 1: ever played, and I saw it was pac Man. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh shit, do I really want to block
Speaker 1: this guy? Like I don't know what he's gonna do
Speaker 1: to me. I mean, all these stories about pac Man
Speaker 1: out there talking shit, coming out after you, getting under
Speaker 1: your skin.
Speaker 2: That was in the scouting report.
Speaker 1: It was, it really was. It was in the back
Speaker 1: of my head. But I was like, I screw that.
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta show my abilities. I gotta do me.
Speaker 1: So I kind of ran that pack man, broke down
Speaker 1: a little bit, got right into his chest. Boy drove
Speaker 1: him about three four yards right to the sideline. West
Speaker 1: ran right behind me, scored a touchdown, baby, and I
Speaker 1: just turned around, like you that's right. I just blocked back. Man. Joel, motherfuck,
Speaker 1: let's go to the strip without Bobby. Joels, you're talking
Speaker 1: about how you almost fought pac Man Jones on the field. Well,
Speaker 1: what does a dB have to do to make you
Speaker 1: want to fight him? What was he saying to you
Speaker 1: or what did he do to you?
Speaker 2: Come on, Joel was calling me white boy or something.
Speaker 2: You ain't got shit, no speed? Yeah he was giving
Speaker 2: I don't I don't even remember.
Speaker 1: But I mean, it was pretty easy to get under
Speaker 1: your skin, really, okay, Jeel's not really.
Speaker 2: Oh, if you piece me off, that means I was
Speaker 2: into one hundred and ten percent every fucking play, So
Speaker 2: a lot of guys would do it because I was
Speaker 2: gonna keep it going. But I don't know. I remember
Speaker 2: one time I took a ball and pac Man thought
Speaker 2: I was gonna go out of bounds, and I kind
Speaker 2: of trucked him and he looked up and he got
Speaker 2: up and he started talking shit to me because I
Speaker 2: had like thirty yards and he was coming right here,
Speaker 2: like he didn't have any momentum, so like that person's
Speaker 2: gonna win. And I lit him up and he looked
Speaker 2: at me. He said some shit. I forgot what he said,
Speaker 2: but he said, fuck you, you stealing shit dog or something.
Speaker 2: I was like, fuck you, pack man. I didn't want
Speaker 2: to talk too much shit to pack me because I
Speaker 2: heard about the guns and shit. I heard about the
Speaker 2: strip clubs and stuff, so you know, I didn't know
Speaker 2: if he would take it off the field, So I
Speaker 2: was like, what's up, pac Man?
Speaker 1: What's the dog?
Speaker 2: But I love pac Man. We've did We've got to
Speaker 2: hang out a few times. He's a fun dude like,
Speaker 2: and he's grown up a lot. I think he's great
Speaker 2: on podcasts and shit. I saw I watched him on McAfee.
Speaker 2: He's you know, he's he's done very well off the
Speaker 2: field and in transforming his his kind of is it
Speaker 2: like we when we were all playing, pac Man was
Speaker 2: like he was a dude that was he got in trouble,
Speaker 2: you got suspend it and shit. Now like it's been
Speaker 2: awesome to see him reimage himself and become like he's
Speaker 2: working for ESPN for a while.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's one of the only dudes that had
Speaker 1: the borderline antics of getting arrested, going to the Strip
Speaker 1: club and being known for all of that. And he's
Speaker 1: still in the media and he and he's he's killing
Speaker 1: he's still a guy that people look up to because
Speaker 1: that's how good of a football player he was. And
Speaker 1: he owned it as well. That's when you know you're
Speaker 1: a great, you know, football player and someone who you
Speaker 1: know who you are because you own it. And when
Speaker 1: you own something like that, it's not like you're gonna
Speaker 1: get canceled or written off. You're gonna find opportunities that
Speaker 1: present to you. And that's what pac Man Jones has
Speaker 1: done for his life. And that's why he's on the
Speaker 1: Pat McAfee show now and he's doing a great job
Speaker 1: and I love the Pat McAfee show. Just speaking of
Speaker 1: wild cars, that guy's a wild card in the best
Speaker 1: way possible. I mean, that guy comes up with freaking
Speaker 1: dilemmas and notions like no one else can possibly do,
Speaker 1: and I love it.
Speaker 2: What's the Mount Rushmore of athletes turned podcasters?
Speaker 1: Mmm? All right, well, I would say, obviously, let's start
Speaker 1: with that guy right there, Pat mcmacgee. I mean he
Speaker 1: was one of the first. He actually stopped playing football
Speaker 1: so he can get into that world. Yeah, doing podcasts
Speaker 1: the media. Yeah crazy. He changed the game.
Speaker 2: He changed the game.
Speaker 1: Yes, he took a chance. He was the ultimate wild
Speaker 1: card for doing that. And let me tell you, he
Speaker 1: changed the game for all these other players that are,
Speaker 1: you know, after they retire and trying to find a
Speaker 1: second life. So Pat McAfee definitely number one, no doubt
Speaker 1: about that. Uh, let's just say a bunch of names
Speaker 1: that to be on there, great podcast, Shannon Sharp, no
Speaker 1: doubt about that. Obviously, the Kelsey brothers. They're doing a
Speaker 1: great job.
Speaker 2: Is that it. There's only four them out rush Now.
Speaker 1: Well, let's not even do Mount Rushmore. Let's just name
Speaker 1: a couplet's just have a category A category, Top top ten,
Speaker 1: top eight, you know whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Kelsey's a fun Yes, they do great job.
Speaker 1: JJ Raddick did great, man, I like to head coaching job.
Speaker 1: He's not podcasting.
Speaker 2: Anymore, guy, I mean he was such a good podcast
Speaker 2: you got a head coaching job out him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's for sure. Brandon Marshall's legit. I think you've
Speaker 1: done some stuff.
Speaker 2: With I ATH. He's a freaking entrepreneur. I'm very proud
Speaker 2: of what he's done. The Cat and PMT, they're they're
Speaker 2: former high school athletes.
Speaker 1: Yeah they are, man, You're right, high school athletes and
Speaker 1: Big Cat and PMT they're like one of the originals
Speaker 1: as well to start podcasting.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at Big Cat with his
Speaker 2: shirt off, I mean I think he's not an athlete.
Speaker 2: I think he's big guy.
Speaker 1: He is.
Speaker 2: He's got like good eyebrows. He got a nice beard.
Speaker 2: He does like he tries to play the fat guy.
Speaker 2: So fat, none good. Look, he's actually a handsome game.
Speaker 2: He lost thirty pounds. He'd probably be in fucking GQ.
Speaker 1: He's like one of those chubby guys that you want
Speaker 1: to snuggle. He is, Yeah, like and it's comfortable. He's
Speaker 1: very snuggling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's nice and warm, you know, like pac
Speaker 2: Man Joe.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, pac Man. Yeah, pac Man.
Speaker 2: You know another thing about pac Man that that's not
Speaker 2: really known out there. I mean, he's a he's a
Speaker 2: stand up dude. He you know, he may he may
Speaker 2: have his antics and shit, but as a human being,
Speaker 2: he's a great dude. Chris Henry lost his kids. Pac
Speaker 2: Man's raising him and pac Man's providing for them, and
Speaker 2: pac Man's the mentor for him. You've seen pac Man
Speaker 2: Jones grow up over the last twenty years. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's not the guy he was when he was in
Speaker 2: the first got in the league, going to strip clubs
Speaker 2: and shit. Maybe he is, but he contains a little.
Speaker 2: But he's a fucking stand up dude. You gotta tip
Speaker 2: your cat to him. Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to pac Man for taking on that
Speaker 1: role and doing He's a good ass. For his friend
Speaker 1: you know that that you know, passed away. That was
Speaker 1: a sad story. But also Chris Henry Jr. Pac Man
Speaker 1: raised him and he's committed to play football at the
Speaker 1: Ohio State University. Geez. So that's a cool story right there.
Speaker 1: And obviously learning from pac Man Jones, one of the
Speaker 1: most athletic, you know, sensational cornerbacks that ever played the game.
Speaker 1: You know, make sure you check out Chris Henry Junior
Speaker 1: when he's at the Ohio State Universe. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: a heck of a player, I bet.
Speaker 2: And once again, a wild card is not just like
Speaker 2: doing bad things. It's just unpredictable of good, bad, whatever.
Speaker 2: And pac Man is is the wild card guy. You know.
Speaker 2: He does some great.
Speaker 1: Sea, does great things, does some wild things that you're
Speaker 1: kind of unsure of, but then he always backs it
Speaker 1: up by doing another great thing as well, another good deeds.
Speaker 2: Who are some teammates that you consider family?
Speaker 1: Uh? Well, first off, you jeweles Man, You're definitely part
Speaker 1: of the family. I mean we're all family, our podcasting team,
Speaker 1: we're all family here. Another teammate, Dola, definitely a family member.
Speaker 1: Nico Kuda VID's I mean, Matthew Slater. We don't hang
Speaker 1: out with him as much.
Speaker 2: He's like the older brother that you know, just looks down.
Speaker 1: And making sure that we're doing the right things. Still,
Speaker 1: if we're doing the wrong thing, he's going to give
Speaker 1: us a call and say, buddy, what should clean it up?
Speaker 1: Your act is getting a little out of control.
Speaker 2: Now. Tom's kind of like older. Yeah brother too.
Speaker 1: Tom's like are older older older brother, older older brother.
Speaker 1: That's making sure we're on the right page. Who else
Speaker 1: we got? Chandler Jones?
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones was Chan was the He was the blackgronk
Speaker 1: and I was the white chan Man when we were
Speaker 1: in New England. That's what we called each other. Love Chan.
Speaker 1: I will always consider him one of my brothers.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Definitely, no, no, no doubt about that.
Speaker 2: Ninko Ninko. He's like the brother that you like. Everyone
Speaker 2: has a brother that you bully. Yeah, yeah, we do
Speaker 2: bully him. What kind of dude is pac Man Jones?
Speaker 2: Let's get into what kind of dude is pac Man Jones? Uh,
Speaker 2: he's definitely. I bet you he's a dude's dude in
Speaker 2: a certain way. I bet you anyone that played with them.
Speaker 1: I bet you was a great teammate actually, because he
Speaker 1: had wonderful stories to get everyone going.
Speaker 3: Hey, when you make the club trying to make everyone
Speaker 3: have fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the truth. Energy to the table, that's all
Speaker 1: it matters, no matter how you do it. You know,
Speaker 1: with whatever antic you're doing you're bringing the energy to
Speaker 1: the table and you're.
Speaker 2: Into him being a dude's dude. Yeah, you're talking to
Speaker 2: him being a dude's dude. He's also a stud.
Speaker 3: We can't forget he was drafted six overall.
Speaker 2: He's fucking four to three guy.
Speaker 1: Five ten he like a linebacker.
Speaker 2: Ten total fucking kickoff return touchdowns like seven pick six
Speaker 2: is this guy was elite with the ball in his hand.
Speaker 2: Thank god he played corner.
Speaker 1: I mean it was he wasn't a freak. I mean,
Speaker 1: because a freak is. You know, there's the statue.
Speaker 2: He was freaky speed.
Speaker 1: He had and fifty freaking two weeks ago. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like he was a six foot six corner.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he got freaking had common size, so.
Speaker 2: That you know on three, we know what it is. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we do know what one two three.
Speaker 1: Dog.
Speaker 2: He's got that dog mentality. He's motivated. I mean, you
Speaker 2: bite him, he's coming right back at you. He's gonna
Speaker 2: he's gonna be a pit bull.
Speaker 1: He canna come back to you as a pit bull,
Speaker 1: and he ain't gonna stop until the fight's over.
Speaker 2: No, he's not man. He's definitely a dog fucking pac man.
Speaker 2: We got to compete against him a lot, and he
Speaker 2: was always you knew you had to bring your a
Speaker 2: game against.
Speaker 1: Always barking at yea too during always whether.
Speaker 2: Good or bad, he was barking. All right. Since this
Speaker 2: episode is all about wild dudes, we're gonna assemble our
Speaker 2: top five list of least wildest dudes in the NFL.
Speaker 3: The least wildest dudes in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I think this is a lot easier than wild dudes
Speaker 1: because it's rare to have like a wild wild dude
Speaker 1: do all his antics and then stay in the NFL
Speaker 1: and get away with it all.
Speaker 2: That's tough to do.
Speaker 1: Bro, Like I'm in that category. I would say you're
Speaker 1: in that category a little bit. Like it's harder to
Speaker 1: be a wild freaking dude and still have a career.
Speaker 1: It is so like these guys are lame that we're
Speaker 1: about to talk about.
Speaker 2: I can tell you that. And we'll start it up
Speaker 2: with Kirk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kirk Cousins. He's definitely, definitely, I thought, one of
Speaker 1: the least wild dudes in the league.
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, I love Kurt. He's so funny.
Speaker 1: You love these guys. He's dud dude, but they're just
Speaker 1: not wild I mean he's not wild. You know that
Speaker 1: they're going to be straight A students right from the
Speaker 1: get go. T Boh yeah yeah Tebow and we know
Speaker 1: t Bo's not wild. Yeah, that's a good point. You know,
Speaker 1: he's just in that weight room. Matthew Slater love him,
Speaker 1: but just not that wild.
Speaker 2: He's no straight lace, straight lace.
Speaker 1: But played like twenty years in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Oh Kurt Warner bagging groceries.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, see see wild cards are bagging hose dan Orlowski.
Speaker 2: Oh he's so unwild. Yeah, it's it's fun.
Speaker 1: The wildest thing he did in his career was stop
Speaker 1: out of the end zone. Yeah, his own end zone
Speaker 1: for safety.
Speaker 2: Also, I hear him, I hear him talking about jacking
Speaker 2: off or something. Wasn't he talking like it's bad to masturbate.
Speaker 2: This guy needs to up lighting up, but loosen up,
Speaker 2: loosen up, straight laced saying he ain't loosen up anything
Speaker 2: he ain't playing. That's a pretty good list.
Speaker 1: That is a good list. Maybe one more.
Speaker 2: Who do you think maybe your boy?
Speaker 1: Uh, you know we played with him, you were always
Speaker 1: beefing with him.
Speaker 2: That that safety that we had, oh, you mean the
Speaker 2: most the most company guy there is in the history
Speaker 2: of company guy, the one who may may have been
Speaker 2: an offspring of the head coach. That's what I'm talking
Speaker 2: Who are you talking about?
Speaker 1: You know, Devin mccordy, first round pick in my draft,
Speaker 1: stole the shine from me that year.
Speaker 2: You know what dev? Dev looked he he used to
Speaker 2: make fun of the wild cards.
Speaker 1: He did.
Speaker 2: He looked down. He was arrogant against the wild cards,
Speaker 2: which you needed that, you needed that. But you know,
Speaker 2: loosen up a little, Bubbs, loosen up a little.
Speaker 1: He definitely despise our party.
Speaker 2: Oh, he despised it, but secretly loved it. There was
Speaker 2: always the married men and then that would look at you.
Speaker 2: But you know, then they'd ask a couple of questions
Speaker 2: when everyone wasn't looking like, Yo, what was it? I was?
Speaker 2: It was off the chain, the private boat, it was private, Jen,
Speaker 2: it was gnarly.
Speaker 1: Oh the New York City trips. Oh you stayed home.
Speaker 2: Well, that's been another episode of Dudes on Dudes. What
Speaker 2: could we have done better? Next episode, Rob, we could
Speaker 2: have been more while jewels, I think we could have
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