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Speaker 1: Hello Tech Sans, and welcome to the program. We take

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Speaker 1: you inside at RG Stadium. Mark Vandermer and John Harris

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Speaker 1: together again, our first show in a while. Ready to rock.

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Speaker 1: Lots of stuff to talk about, Johnny, let's go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's do it. I'm I'm glad you're back. It was

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Speaker 1: fun with them week. Last week we had an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to I enjoyed that some of the some of the

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Speaker 1: great stuff that we were able to do during the offseason.

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Speaker 1: But let's go seventeen days to the start of training camp.

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Speaker 1: We will be doing training camp live from eight to

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Speaker 1: ten in two weeks. It's camp week. Yeah, it's camp.

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Speaker 1: That's another way to put it. That's that's the big

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Speaker 1: way to week from Thursday. That sounds like nothing, and

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Speaker 1: it is. We got a lot of work to do. Actually,

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Speaker 1: our department has a lot of work to do. We

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Speaker 1: get this season, radio, TV, training camp shows, all the

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Speaker 1: other stuff. But let's get it to this. US women's

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Speaker 1: national soccer team wins the World Cup, right, they beat

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Speaker 1: the Netherlands. Yeah, my country, my country. People. Do you

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Speaker 1: notice how many I know you did? How many of

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Speaker 1: you were named vander Yeah? I told You've told us

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Speaker 1: this before that, it's like that name like Vander. I

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Speaker 1: can't remember what you said. Vander is from the from

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Speaker 1: the yeah, and Van is just from like Van Gundhi

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Speaker 1: is from I don't know what Gundhi means, but believe

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Speaker 1: me that's that's a Dutch name from defense, Yeah, from defense,

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Speaker 1: from scores in the eighties. As just a quick tangent um,

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Speaker 1: I think Jeff Van Gundy's new favorite team is the

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Speaker 1: LA Clippers because Patrick Beverlely, Kawhi, Leonarde, they're gonna get after,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna lock you down in half court. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be fun. By the way, to be lucky to

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Speaker 1: get the best half court gets that that backcourt. Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh. By the way, NFL related note to all

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Speaker 1: the NBA free agency stuff they're saying the NBA is

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Speaker 1: more wide open since I don't know, it's the most

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Speaker 1: wide open it's been since a decade ago, over a

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Speaker 1: decade ago, since the Big Three got to Miami, well

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Speaker 1: maybe since the Big Three got to Boston. Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: there was a thought that, oh, they're definitely gonna win

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Speaker 1: a couple. They won one, they got to another finals

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Speaker 1: and that was it. But that was all right, for them.

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Speaker 1: But they say the NFL has all this parody, and yes,

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Speaker 1: but not really, because we were talking about it in

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Speaker 1: a show shortly before the break. How you look at

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Speaker 1: the AFC, it's all Patriots all the time. In fact,

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Speaker 1: since Bill O'Brien has been here, it's been Patriots or

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Speaker 1: I think who gets to go there? I did the

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Speaker 1: math on that mark. If you just the last few years,

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Speaker 1: the only repeat was you had the Seahawks in thirteen

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Speaker 1: in fifteen, Falcons in sixteen, you had Eagles in seventeen,

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Speaker 1: in How about this. This is another another little nugget

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Speaker 1: that I thought of when I was going through them week.

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Speaker 1: said this one day that the Texans will face every

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Speaker 1: MVP that's still in the league minus one this year

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Speaker 1: in some capacity. Who's the minus one, Adrian Peterson dating

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Speaker 1: so other than one, they will face all the active MVP,

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. Well, that'll take us to our segment two topic,

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Speaker 1: which is about the schedule and something that Clinton Sterner

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Speaker 1: that but here and yeah, I just thought i'd bring

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Speaker 1: it's funny when you're on vacation and you're talking to pedestrians,

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Speaker 1: they've won so many, and look at the close scores.

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Speaker 1: Look at how all these Super Bowls could have turned

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Speaker 1: and how fine the line is, and all the work

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Speaker 1: there to win that help. They did what it took.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to take anything away from them. And

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Speaker 1: then in the Super Bowl, well, look they put up

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Speaker 1: times on Super Bowl Sunday. Whatever, they got thirteen points,

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Speaker 1: they held them to that and they still lose. It's

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Speaker 1: that kind of team. They just find a way. When

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Speaker 1: the Patriots had had the ring ceremony and Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: whole point was he's got six and the Patriots have

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Speaker 1: six in that time, and it really could be six.

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Speaker 1: certain things happening. But if we all been close, the

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Speaker 1: So in a way, the national fan, as much as

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see any more of these. Thank

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Speaker 1: women's national team wins the World Cup. Now NFL equivalent

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Speaker 1: This was the equivalent of third quarter of the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: Third quarter of the Super Bowl pass interference and it's

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Speaker 1: In the third quarter, somebody throws a flag, challenge flag,

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Speaker 1: There was a review from upstairs. They said penalty. Give

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Speaker 1: making excuses for Mariota every single he's got a new

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator every year. He said to do this it's

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Speaker 1: it's changed, He's never receivers. It's all. It's like, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't disagree with that. I really don't.

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Speaker 1: I think that does. I think it was one of

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Speaker 1: the things. And I said this about Alex Smith. When

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith people were saying, look, he's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: a great quarterback with the San Francisco forty nine ers,

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Speaker 1: I was like, look, stop the transition points for him.

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Speaker 1: Stop giving him new offensive coordination, stopped giving him new

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Speaker 1: head coaches. Give him some stability. He got with the

436
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Speaker 1: right guy, and it completely took off and completely took

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Speaker 1: off of them. They went to the NFL Championship, right,

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Speaker 1: And so I think that Mariota can be a dangerous

439
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 1: guy now when he's in the when he is when

440
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Speaker 1: he's got the ball in his hands, I do worry.

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Speaker 1: I worry. But what he has not done. Here's the

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Speaker 1: one thing that Mariota has not done. He has not

443
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Speaker 1: learned when get out of dodge and go get out

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Speaker 1: of the pocket and make a play or go run,

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Speaker 1: as opposed to I'm gonna hang in this pocket, sure everybody,

446
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Speaker 1: I can stay in this pocket. Make a throat that.

447
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 1: I think that's the one thing somewhere along the line,

448
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 1: it's gotten in his head that I've got approved to everybody,

449
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: I'm a pocket passer as opposed to pockets breaking down.

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Speaker 1: Let me go put some pressure on the defense by

451
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Speaker 1: getting out of the pocket, because once he does that,

452
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 1: then his whole pocket awareness is all off. It's completely off.

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Speaker 1: It's not like he's played beyond a horrible offensive line.

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Speaker 1: The last year was not great. In particular, one game

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Speaker 1: against the Walter Ravens, he's sacked eleven times. But a

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Speaker 1: lot of that has to do with him. He's standing

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Speaker 1: back there and he's not he's not processing when he's

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00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: seeing it, and he's also not get out of dodge.

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Speaker 1: That's the one thing that Deshaun has an innate feel for.

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Speaker 1: Even with everything that's going on, he's got a pretty

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Speaker 1: good feel for, get out of dodge and go start

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00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 1: making up. He's just so desirous of making a play

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Speaker 1: down field, of completing the pack, even though he runs

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Speaker 1: the ball well. Clearly he wants to make plays downfield

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Speaker 1: with his arm, and Mariota too often bails on those

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Speaker 1: opportunities when they might be there for him. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he just it's it's almost as if he freezes in

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Speaker 1: the pocket, almost as if he's, oh, I gotta stay

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Speaker 1: back here, as opposed to it's closing down, get out

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Speaker 1: of dots, because the one thing he has his best

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Speaker 1: asset is the ability to get out of the pocket

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Speaker 1: and run away from guys. I remember the game that

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Speaker 1: we smashed them here in seventeen. He scores two touchdowns

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Speaker 1: on zone read plays that were like, oh, that scares me,

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Speaker 1: scares me. Mariota was the number two pick of the draft,

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Speaker 1: right had he come out in twenty fourteen because he

477
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Speaker 1: stayed in school. Had he come out in twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 1: is he going number one or is he going number

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Speaker 1: two behind Clowney? Well, I mean, so give me, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to debate him versus Clowney. But is

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Speaker 1: he going one of those top two spots? Right? He

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Speaker 1: goes because Bortles was number three as it turned out,

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Speaker 1: so he's not slipping any lower than that. He would

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Speaker 1: create out higher than Bortles on anybody's board, obviously, But

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Speaker 1: with the the Texans probably would have taken him because

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Speaker 1: they were looking quarterback then you know that was the

487
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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick here, so they would have taken Mariota right there.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it would have turned out totally differently. Who knows.

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Speaker 1: It's just that kind of thing. This is fun stuff

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Speaker 1: to discuss, all right. A few more items on Sterner's

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Speaker 1: list that we must get to, and some other stuff

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Speaker 1: going on around the National Football League. We are busy

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Speaker 1: on a Monday. It's Texans Radio. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: we're going to fit all this into one show tonight.

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Speaker 1: Welcome again, Mark Vandermarin, John Harris with you in the

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Speaker 1: hunday Texans Radio studio Texans All Access. And we were

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Speaker 1: discussing a few things related to the Texans schedule and

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Speaker 1: Clint Sterner tweeting out about how the schedule, while not

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Speaker 1: easy at all, might be a little bit more of

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Speaker 1: a lamb than a wolf in certain areas. And we

501
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Speaker 1: were talking about the Titans, because he took a lot

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Speaker 1: of heat for saying Mariota scares no one with Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: But let me ask you this, Johnny going over some

504
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Speaker 1: of the other games pointed out here in this schedule analysis,

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Speaker 1: which used very few characters. Casey, no Hill. So if

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Speaker 1: Tyree Hill is not with Kansas City, how does that

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Speaker 1: affect them? They're still an extremely dangerous team. Yeah. Again,

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Speaker 1: it's just like, as long as Watson's playing, you got

509
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Speaker 1: a great shot to win a game. Sure, as long

510
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Speaker 1: as my Holmes is out there, Kansas City's gonna be deadly.

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Speaker 1: Well did you you saw the picture I sent you? Right?

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Speaker 1: You made their offseason programming TV, the franchise. You made it.

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Speaker 1: So I'm in the booth next to Mitch Altis, who

514
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Speaker 1: is describing the play by play of now Davis this

515
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Speaker 1: one hundred yard kick return to start the playoff game

516
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Speaker 1: and the best part of the videos. You can see

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Speaker 1: you in the background just kind of slump up against

518
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Speaker 1: the mold. This is going crazy. A tale of two booths.

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Speaker 1: I get the impression. And look, I know a lot

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Speaker 1: of people, and I know you've done it, just like

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Speaker 1: Mitch does. You go out and you speak to groups,

522
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Speaker 1: and you know it's not usually filmed, and you're telling people, hey,

523
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Speaker 1: you know, we can do this, and it's kind of

524
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Speaker 1: a you know, kind of a raw, raw thing. But

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Speaker 1: if he's buying what he's selling every single time he talks,

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Speaker 1: they're thinking about going nineteen and oh, I mean that's

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Speaker 1: the way they're feeling. I don't know that. I'm i

528
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: don't know that combined. I heard a discussion I can't

529
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Speaker 1: remember who's talking about this on six ten, but I

530
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: heard him talking about the impact of Tyreek Hill, and

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Speaker 1: you can get lost in well, what is Tyreek Hill?

532
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: Is he? Is he a receiver? Is he running back?

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Speaker 1: What is he? I'm like, it doesn't really matter because

534
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: he put him on the field and it's the instant

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Speaker 1: he gets the ball in his hands, He's scary. The

536
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Speaker 1: instant he's out wide and he's running by you. He's terrifying.

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Speaker 1: So without him, that element is not there. Now, are

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Speaker 1: you still scared of Travis Kelsey? Yeah? Is it still

539
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: one of the best offensive lines in the league. Yeah?

540
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 1: Is Patrick Mahomes pure magic? Yeah? All that's true, but

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Speaker 1: Tyreek takes the offense to a completely different realm and

542
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Speaker 1: that without Tyreek, but they got me Coo Hardman. Okay,

543
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: he's a rookie. He'll be playing in his fifth game

544
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Speaker 1: at best, So in your fifth game, you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: this thing down. As opposed to Mahomes, who has been

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Speaker 1: with Tyreek for two years, played with him all of

547
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Speaker 1: last year. Set up that Synergy found that I don't

548
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Speaker 1: know that I'm totally buying that. And defensively, I don't

549
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: know if they're any better. I mean they lost d

550
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: Ford and Justin Houston brought in Frank Clark. Okay, Chris

551
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: Jones may hold out their star defensive end, so he

552
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: may hold out. And the only helped play against the Texans. Yeah,

553
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: you'd think. And then the only other upgrade was Tyrant Safety.

554
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: And you know we saw Tyrant last year. So I

555
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: think Kansas CY is gonna be a good team. But

556
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: you take Tyreek Hill, Tyreek Hill off of that offense,

557
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,959
Speaker 1: it does not even come close to being as explosive.

558
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about Hill and it doesn't matter

559
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: how you define who he is, it's I'm the defense

560
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: when he's on the field. It's scary to use that

561
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: word again that we use in the last segment. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm terrified of him. And I always go back to

563
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: how does the defense feel in any sport when X

564
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: players on the field. Right even with the Rockets situation

565
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: right now and all this debate about Russell Westbrook, if

566
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Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook play for the Rockets, and with all due

567
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: respect to Chris Paul, if you were another NBA team

568
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: and you got to go out that night and face

569
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: Harden and Westbrook. You're not happy about that. That's a

570
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: real tough night. I don't care who's on your team.

571
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: I gotta face both those guys. They're both terrifying to me.

572
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Speaker 1: In the NFL, How did we feel in twenty eleven

573
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Speaker 1: when Sprowls was on the field to the Saints. When

574
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Speaker 1: you're at the Superdome, you're going there again opening night?

575
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: How'd you feeling Sprowls on the field last year against

576
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles. Certain players do that to you. Go

577
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: back to USC versus the Texas Longhorns and the Rose Bowl,

578
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: and when the USC Trojans trying to pick up a

579
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Speaker 1: first down, or they got Lindell White in the game

580
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: and Reggie Bushes on the sideline, put Reggie Bush in

581
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: the game. It's obvious because when Reggie Bushes in the game,

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Speaker 1: it scares the defense and they got to account for

583
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: those kinds of things are obvious. Or why does Andrea

584
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: always bang the desk if you get a turnover, especially

585
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: in their end of the field, and you don't go

586
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: deep right away, because if you're the defense, you're thinking,

587
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Speaker 1: please don't go deep. You know if you hand off

588
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: you might get a big play, but I'd rather have

589
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,479
Speaker 1: you do that if on the defense. So there are

590
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: certain things where you want to do what scares the

591
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: defense most, and I haven't. Tyree Hill on the field

592
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: is totally scary for the Chiefs not having him obviously

593
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: weekends then, but they still have a really strong team anyway. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's that's the thing. Whether and obviously there's been some

595
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: talk about getting him back. I don't know, my my,

596
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: my gut, my gut tells me that it'll be an

597
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: eight game suspension. This just I don't know. It's for

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Speaker 1: some reason. This makes sense a lot of people think six,

599
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: but go on eight games that they appeal down to six. Oh, okay, eight,

600
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Speaker 1: and they knock it down. They knock it down to six,

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Speaker 1: and we are game number We are game number what six?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Please make it now. Here's here's the flip side.

603
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Speaker 1: I brought this up too. Yeah, Tyreek Hill as a

604
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Speaker 1: receiver last year had two of his worst game games

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Speaker 1: against which defensive bat Rob who was now member of

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Speaker 1: the Texans. So it's not as if Roby is the

607
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: cryptonite to Tyreek Hill. But he's seen him before, he's

608
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: covered him before, he's covered a man a man before. Like,

609
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Speaker 1: I've watched both games where Roby played against Tyreek Hill

610
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: and went, Wow, Hill's not getting much why And I'm

611
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: watching Roby go with him all over the field. I'm like, Wow,

612
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: he's doing a pretty good job. So look, you gotta

613
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: gotta play the hand you're dealt. But look, if you

614
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: go to Clint's point about you face the pits, think

615
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,959
Speaker 1: about the guys that have killed you when you've faced him.

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00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill has hurt this team in a major way. Now,

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Speaker 1: some of that was on punt returns, but Tyreek Hill

618
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: has hurt this team. May or may not play. Gronk

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Speaker 1: retired and skinny. He's skinny. He's not coming back. So's yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's not gonna lost the weight. He's not coming back.

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Speaker 1: He's done rumblings of that early on that this was

622
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Speaker 1: not a smoke screen. He's definitely out. It's not just

623
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Speaker 1: a black if t Y Hilton can just get fat

624
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Speaker 1: like Gronk. If he could get the weight that Gronk lost, Yes,

625
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Speaker 1: add that on get a Dad Bod, I would be great, Yeah,

626
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: Dad Bob. Tyreek Hill would be good for the Texas.

627
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's Hilton with a dad bod I'd

628
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Speaker 1: be happy about. But I said Tyreek Hill, I met

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Speaker 1: t By Hilton. Yeah either way. Yeah, well everybody should

630
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Speaker 1: get dad bods that they're playing. I'd be wonderful, all right.

631
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Speaker 1: So Carolina, with Cam coming back, started to throw late

632
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Speaker 1: in the mini camp part of the offseason schedule. Look,

633
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Speaker 1: I don't know, Like we said, you don't know what

634
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Speaker 1: you're gonna get. He's very dangerous and he can move

635
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Speaker 1: the ball around in a variety of ways. They've got

636
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Speaker 1: a lot of weapons. They're coming here, which is a

637
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: nice thing. It's it's not there's no day off of

638
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Speaker 1: this league. Ever. I don't care who you're playing. I

639
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: don't care if it's the bottom wrong team. I don't

640
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: care if it's Owen, whatever, Cleveland from two years ago,

641
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: when sixteen Cleveland, it's still a tough out any given Sunday, Carolina.

642
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: There's just no breather on this schedule, Johnny, there's no

643
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: there's no even dip early on and maybe that's the one.

644
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what a dip that is? Smart we

645
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Speaker 1: play I can't I always forget if Atlanta goes for

646
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Speaker 1: I think Atlanti's first, right. We play Atlanta first, then Carolina,

647
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: So we play the twenty sixteen League MVP. The next

648
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: year we played the twenty fifteen League MVP, and then

649
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Speaker 1: we go face the twenty eighteen League MVP in three

650
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Speaker 1: straight weeks. We faced those three and then after that, Oh,

651
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Speaker 1: it's Andrew Luck in speaking of that was gonna be

652
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: my point about Cam Newton. We were having this discussion

653
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Speaker 1: last year at this time, going well, we don't know

654
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: what Andrew Luck is gonna be. We don't know. We

655
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: watched him. I watched him in that Philadelphia game. I said,

656
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: right in the seat, I was watching him, and you

657
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: were like, what do you think. I was like, He's

658
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: ain't throwing the ball down the field. He can't throw

659
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: the ball on the field. It's like his shoulders. This

660
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: then against us, what happened sixty two times and towards us,

661
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Speaker 1: and we were lucky to get out of there with

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Speaker 1: a w. He got loose. That was when Andrew Luck

663
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: got loose. So when does it happen for Cam? And look,

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Speaker 1: Cam's got some young talent around him with Dj Moore

665
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Speaker 1: wide receiver, Curtis Shamuel wider receiver, He's got McCaffrey, still

666
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Speaker 1: got Greg Olson and the defensive from Carolina is gonna

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Speaker 1: I think Carolina is gonna be much improved. Uh, they're

668
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Speaker 1: the team for All or Nothing July nineteenth. Can't wait

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Speaker 1: Amazon's NFL kind of scenes show All or Nothing. I

670
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: know a certain staff that's gonna be combing through that

671
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: footage to try to find some stuff. Every nugget and

672
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: every every opponent they play is gonna be going right

673
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: through it. That's why a lot of these coaches are

674
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: hesitant to be on these programs. And by hesitant, I

675
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: mean they don't want to do it ever, flat out

676
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: rebellious to it. But they know it's great for the

677
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: league too. So I don't know that we've talked about this,

678
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: but John Gruden and the Raiders on Hard Knocks last

679
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: year in Oakland, I know it's it's good. How about

680
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: them not having real public practices, it seems so Unraider

681
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: like to do it. That's odd. They're doing sponsors, so

682
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: you'll see some fans, but they're they're getting in through

683
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: an elite sort of way for lack of a better

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00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: way of putting. Yeah, yeah, I would have you got

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Speaker 1: to do something I would have thought last year in Oakland. Hey,

686
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Speaker 1: let's let's give it. You think you know what all

687
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: you gotta do is open to open a couple two, three, four, whatever,

688
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Speaker 1: and then you quiet the critics and you move on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's the problem. Yeah, that's like it's a little odd.

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00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: But Raiders ab with Derek car with John Gruden. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I want to watch that spectacular circus. Oh I want

692
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: to watch it. Not just in hard knocks, I want

693
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Speaker 1: to watch I want to watch it all the year long.

694
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: You play all this schedule is so loaded with intrigue

695
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: and great drama and great players. Because all right, the

696
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: intrigue about all or nothing subject Carolina Hard not subject Raiders.

697
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: So you get that you had all those MVPs you

698
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: were just talking about how many Hall of famers are

699
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: you gonna get on this schedule? How many future Hall

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00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: of famers breeze in Rivers? But how about this with

701
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback? I did so the week prior, did the

702
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: Ultimate eleven each day Monday wasn't Friday? Did the Ultimate

703
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: eleven players non quarterback? Offensive players you face right, and

704
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: then did defensive players, then the quarterbacks. And as I

705
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: was going through the quarterbacks, that's when it hit me,

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00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: of all there even Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers, We're gonna

707
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: face in the preseason when I'm facing the year. But

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00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: every MVP dating back to Tom Brady's first win or

709
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Paid Manning back in three every active player

710
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: other than Adrian Peterson the Texans will be on the

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Speaker 1: field with at some point during the year, which is

712
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: which is unbelievable. But think about Super Bowl MVPs. Two falls, right, Flacco, Breeze,

713
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: Brady feasing four guys with Super Bowl MVPs as well.

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Speaker 1: So you're facing league MVPs, you're facing Super Bowl mv

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Speaker 1: You've v Oh my gosh, I forgot about Von. I

716
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: was just doing it for the quarterbacks. Von Miller. Yeah,

717
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: that's crazy. It's I mean, it's loaded. Julian Edelman, It's

718
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean, are you facing every Super Bowl MVP for

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Speaker 1: the last Yeah, because you're gonna face Edelman from eight teen,

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00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: falls from seventeen, Brady from sixteen, Von Miller from fifteen

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Speaker 1: fourteen I believe was Seattle, though it was Brady, it

722
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: was there was the comeback against Seattle, I think, and

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Speaker 1: the year before that was Seattle, which was Malcolm Smith,

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Speaker 1: which I'm not sure where Malcolm smidos. I don't know if,

725
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: but then the year before that was Flacco, and you

726
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 1: have Flacco here with the Denver Broncos. Is he still

727
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: playing by then? That's a great question. And that's why

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We don't That's why he put That's

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00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: why Clint Sterner put Flacco question mark. Okay, Anyway, we

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Speaker 1: addressed that Starner is a great guy. Good tweet, brought

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Speaker 1: up a lot of conversation. You may or may not agree,

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Speaker 1: And that's just the whole thing about sports, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: We don't know, So we do know that Chris Ballard,

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Speaker 1: general manager of the Colts, wrote MMQB this week. He did,

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Speaker 1: and he talked, he talked Peter King's Peter Kings. So

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Speaker 1: people still call it IMQB in Football n America. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Football n America. And he's had guest writers, which Isisen

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Speaker 1: didn't want a couple of weeks ago, and he talked

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Speaker 1: about that the replay, the past interference replay situation kind

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00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: of simulation that they were in and just the jaws

741
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Speaker 1: dropping when when I think it was either bland I

742
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: think it was Blandino or a river n came in

743
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Speaker 1: and said this would actually the offensive past interference and

744
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: everybody's like, what went crazy? So he wrote about that instance. Well,

745
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: this week he got Ballard, Chris Ballard to write for

746
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Speaker 1: Football Light in America. What were some of the highlights?

747
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: And he talked about the draft process, he tried. He

748
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: talked about the thought process that went into drafting Rock

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Speaker 1: his Sin. And outside of the fact that he talked

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Speaker 1: about all the different discussions they had, he said Rock

751
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: was still on the board in the first round. He

752
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: felt like it was too good an offer from Washington.

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Speaker 1: Pass up. They got two twos and they got the

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Speaker 1: thirty four, and he said when they got the thirty four,

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Speaker 1: he said, the room was mixed. He said, half one

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Speaker 1: to trade down. They still felt like they could have

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Speaker 1: gotten your Sin, and he said the other half was like, nope,

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00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: we need him now. And he said he and Frank

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00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: Reich kind of stepped off, talked for a couple of

760
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: minutes about it, and then he heard from the room

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Speaker 1: and he went, now, guys, we're gonna stay here. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna take you a Sin. And he said the one

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Speaker 1: thing that they were sold on more than anything else

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00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: was the fact that he was a blue card player,

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Speaker 1: as they called it they flag like not flag that

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00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: sounds bad, but ten to twelve players they give kind

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00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: of a blue star like this is arc this is

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00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: he's a kind of guy. We love their all for

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00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 1: all the great assets, it was his it was his character,

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00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: It was his football character. It was his football character

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00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: where they felt like that guy is a cult. And

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Speaker 1: that stood up to me more than anything because if

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Speaker 1: young players are reading that, a young players like, man,

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Speaker 1: how do I get the NFL? How do you get

775
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 1: the NFL? That first and foremost is what personal departments

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00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 1: are looking for. What is your football character? He also

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00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: talked about they have a guy on staff. I think

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Speaker 1: his name is Decker, and he's a former Green Beret

779
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: and he is essentially the team interviewer because he is

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00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: over years crafted this interview mechanism with players where he

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Speaker 1: can get kind of beyond the surface stuff and get

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Speaker 1: right the heart of the matter and does it does

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Speaker 1: answer these four questions basically, And if he does and

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Speaker 1: answer them, then he says, yes, this is a guy

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Speaker 1: that we would like that and that's isn't that most important? Really?

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Speaker 1: I mean obviously talent, but there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys with talent, just like there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: high school basketball coaches that they'll tell you there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of great players walk in the hallway who

790
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: will never make their teams or never play competitively. So

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00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: there are a lot of guys with talent, but who

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00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: are the guys who could be great pros? And we

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00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: talk about this, and this team has a way of

794
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: figuring that stuff out too, and probably it's going to

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Speaker 1: change and just even further now with this GM change situation.

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Speaker 1: But I think Jack Easterby's gonna help in that guard

797
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: as well because he's so great with people. But we'll

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Speaker 1: see out all transpires here in the next year or so.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting the one thing he said,

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Speaker 1: and I said this to you. We were talking about

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Speaker 1: Titus to day after the draft Tynis Howard leading into

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Speaker 1: to day two, and he did an interview with us.

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Speaker 1: He walked out and I said to you, I'm not

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00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: panicked about this, And I said, because if a guy

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Speaker 1: works hard, if he's got some semblance of athletic ability,

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Speaker 1: and the guy wants it, and he's gonna do what

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Speaker 1: he's got to do every single day to be a

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Speaker 1: good professional, the guy's not going to be a bust

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Speaker 1: And One of the things that stood out to me

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Speaker 1: in the article, as Chris Baller was talking about he said,

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Speaker 1: your athletic ability sets your ceiling. He said, but your

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Speaker 1: football character establishes your floor. And I thought that was

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Speaker 1: that was that was a succinct way of putting what

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Speaker 1: I was saying about Titus, and that is, his football

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Speaker 1: character is off the charts. He's not gonna fail. He's

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00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: not gonna fail. Now, is he gonna be a tent

817
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: time Pro Bowler? We don't know that he's got the

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00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 1: athletic ability to it, but his football character will ensure

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Speaker 1: that he's not going to be a bust. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's funny. I'm glad you brought up the word floor

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Speaker 1: because we always talk about ceiling, right, But these personnel guys,

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Speaker 1: coaches too, they talk about floor more often than you hear,

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Speaker 1: because to them that's important. What's the downside of drafting

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Speaker 1: this guy? What's the worst case scenario or maybe not

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00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: worse but lesser case scenario, And they want to know

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Speaker 1: what that is. Oh, worst case, this guy's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a you know, solid player for us that he's not

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Speaker 1: gonna melt down when things get tough. Johnny, Thanks a lot.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for tonight's show. We could have

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Speaker 1: talked for hours because Johnny and I have not been

831
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Speaker 1: on the air together for a couple of weeks. So

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Speaker 1: we'll continue with this throughout the week. Anyway you want

833
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Speaker 1: to hear this program again, it'll be up on Houston

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Speaker 1: Texans dot com, Texans app shortly, or wherever five podcasts

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Speaker 1: are available. Stay tuned for more and great Texans talk

836
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Speaker 1: at other sports talk on Sports Radio six ten. If

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Speaker 1: a great night, and go Texans