Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from
Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always
Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague West and Hodkots. We're coming to
Speaker 1: you hear from our studios at lambeau Field. Back in
Speaker 1: the saddle on short sleep, Wes, and unfortunately we don't
Speaker 1: have an uplifting victory to try to perk up the proceedings.
Speaker 1: Here a tough loss for the Packers on Monday night
Speaker 1: football at Allegiance Stadium in Las Vegas. The final is
Speaker 1: nineteen to thirteen to the Las Vegas Raiders. And I
Speaker 1: know we can talk about the struggles on offense in
Speaker 1: the first half once again and all that. The bottom
Speaker 1: line in the NFL is when you have chances to
Speaker 1: win games, you've got to go win them. And the
Speaker 1: Packers had two opportunities, two big time opportunities to score
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of this game with first downs
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas territory, and both of those possessions ended
Speaker 1: with interceptions, and that's how the Raiders came out with
Speaker 1: a win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and last week you and I discussed me the
Speaker 2: Raiders only had one takeaway in the season. It had
Speaker 2: come a week earlier, but sometimes they do come in bunches,
Speaker 2: and in the Raiders case, it definitely happened. In this case,
Speaker 2: three interceptions for Jordan Love, two of those going to
Speaker 2: that same linebacker for the Raiders, Robert Splaine.
Speaker 1: I think Splaine is How's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a new one for me.
Speaker 1: But I'm too tired.
Speaker 2: I am as well, and you know, the Packers just
Speaker 2: didn't make enough plays. And I think the most bizarre
Speaker 2: thing of this game was and we'll talk about the full,
Speaker 2: overall encompassing part of it, but the Packers checked so
Speaker 2: many boxes in terms of what you and I discussed
Speaker 2: last week as the keys to victory, DeVante Adams did
Speaker 2: not go off. I actually thought they did a really
Speaker 2: good job against Josh Jacobs outside of really one twenty
Speaker 2: four yard carry that started one of their long scoring drives.
Speaker 2: You know, they hit Andres Carlson won the kicking battle
Speaker 2: against his brother. There were so many different parts to this,
Speaker 2: but Mike Matt Lafleore talked about it after, where as
Speaker 2: you mentioned it in the intro, when you lose the
Speaker 2: turnover differential the way Green Bay did to a team
Speaker 2: that was dead last in the NFL. When it came
Speaker 2: to turnover margin, it's going to be hard to find
Speaker 2: a way to win. And for a team that did
Speaker 2: not have Aaron Jones again for you in need of
Speaker 2: a guy to step up. Christian Watson made a couple
Speaker 2: of nice plays, but in the end, it just wasn't
Speaker 2: enough and in Green Bay wasn't able to get that
Speaker 2: one final play they needed to be able to pull
Speaker 2: out a victory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that fourth quarter was certainly frustrating because you know,
Speaker 1: you look at Packers had a earlier in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: right after the Raiders had taken the lead back at
Speaker 1: seventeen to thirteen. I believe it was the opening play
Speaker 1: of the fourth quarter. They finished that ten play touchdown drive.
Speaker 1: Packers came right back, had a first down at the
Speaker 1: Las Vegas forty yard line, plenty of time left on
Speaker 1: the clock. You're obviously looking to score a touchdown or
Speaker 1: if you get a little bit further and can get
Speaker 1: a field goal. It's seventeen to sixteen and it's game
Speaker 1: on for the last ten minutes or whatever the case
Speaker 1: might have been. But then the Packers take a sack.
Speaker 1: Then the next pass is forced a little bit into
Speaker 1: tight coverage gets deflected for an interception, so you get
Speaker 1: a sack and a pick. Then, late in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: after Daniel Carlson clanks the right up right fifty two yards,
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels with an interesting decision there to try to
Speaker 1: kick the field goal to go up seven, as opposed
Speaker 1: to just go for it on fourth and one, which
Speaker 1: would have essentially iced the game based on the clock
Speaker 1: and the timeouts. But the Packers get a break there.
Speaker 1: The elder Carlson hits the upright, so the Packers get
Speaker 1: great field position on the forty two. You've got almost
Speaker 1: two full minutes on the clock, you've got a time out,
Speaker 1: and they get a first down at the Las Vegas
Speaker 1: thirty five yard line. Now, obviously you need a touchdown
Speaker 1: because of that other missed opportunity. But then right when
Speaker 1: everything seems to be going in Green Bay's direction, you
Speaker 1: get a drop by Romeo Dobbs, a tough drop by
Speaker 1: Luke Muskrave on a pass that Love's trying to fit
Speaker 1: it in there with two defenders converging, so the passes
Speaker 1: a little bit behind Musgrave, I think intentionally, but he
Speaker 1: gets his hands on it, can't hold onto it. So
Speaker 1: you have essentially two drops that then are followed by
Speaker 1: an interception in the end zone when he tries to
Speaker 1: take the shot to Watson and Love says he underthrew it.
Speaker 1: Jordan Love stood at the podium and took his medicine. Hey,
Speaker 1: I got to protect the ball better. Three interceptions. You know,
Speaker 1: he has to be better in that area. But his
Speaker 1: teammates need to be better. Wess. I mean, the Packers
Speaker 1: had their chances in this game, and you can't put
Speaker 1: it all on the first year starting quarterback. You can't
Speaker 1: be given up a sack when you cross into a
Speaker 1: pony opposing territory. Can't be dropping passes with less than
Speaker 1: two minutes to go. Packers have a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: to figure out on offense, particularly in the first half.
Speaker 1: With the last three games in a row, the first
Speaker 1: half has been has been really a really big struggle
Speaker 1: on offense. But the Packers have a lot more issues
Speaker 1: right now than just the fact that Jordan Love through
Speaker 1: three interceptions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just trying to figure out a plan. You know,
Speaker 2: with Max c he wasn't How do I say this
Speaker 2: because I don't want to be disrespectful to Max Crosby,
Speaker 2: but Max Crosby wasn't moving around as much as Aiden
Speaker 2: Hutchinson did, but then he comes on a stunt which
Speaker 2: basically goes around the Packers' entire offensive line, yeah, and
Speaker 2: gets to the quarterback. I mean things like that, you
Speaker 2: just you can't have it happen that way. And I
Speaker 2: just felt like when we talked at the beginning of
Speaker 2: the season, Mike, it was all about, you got a
Speaker 2: young quarterback, you need everybody else to raise their game
Speaker 2: up to kind of take the pressure off of him,
Speaker 2: and that just hasn't happened lately. I mean it's been
Speaker 2: a lot on Jordan love to make things happen, to
Speaker 2: make plays, and when you try to force the play,
Speaker 2: you sometimes can force the takeaway and this was one
Speaker 2: of those cases. I really like the plan coming out
Speaker 2: of the gate. It was it was very run heavy based.
Speaker 2: You know, there was some things about, you know, the
Speaker 2: first fifteen plays maybe a lot of that scripted for
Speaker 2: Aaron Jones and you don't have them. But I thought
Speaker 2: aj Dillon really stepped up. Has you ran for twenty
Speaker 2: carries for seventy six yards? Had that one series after
Speaker 2: the takeaway from ruby Ford where he marches down the field,
Speaker 2: basically kind of pulling the offense on his back. Thirty
Speaker 2: four yards on six carries. They get the touchdown, they're
Speaker 2: only touchdown of the game. But when the Packers had
Speaker 2: to go the full distance of the field, trying to
Speaker 2: play air free football for ten plays, twelve plays without
Speaker 2: a negative yardage, play without a penalty, proved really problematic
Speaker 2: for green Bay. And when you go through a first
Speaker 2: half and it's just one touch for Christian Watson, nothing
Speaker 2: yet for Romeo Dobbs, nothing really for Jaden Reid, it's
Speaker 2: tough to get the offensive wherethm going. It is funny though,
Speaker 2: the fact that Green Bay was able to establish aj
Speaker 2: Dillon I think went a long way to that seventy
Speaker 2: seven yard completion to Christian wattson absolutely the play actually
Speaker 2: play rolling across his body.
Speaker 1: Yeah, busted busted coverage there by the Raiders, and yeah,
Speaker 1: Watson made the big play.
Speaker 2: But in those explosive games, if you're going to have setbacks,
Speaker 2: you need to be able to counter with explosives. And
Speaker 2: that's really the only one green Bay was really able
Speaker 2: to muster in this thing. And and unfortunately, as you mentioned,
Speaker 2: what the horse collar ends up only being three points.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that was that was a tough break because,
Speaker 1: as I mentioned an insider inbox when I was writing
Speaker 1: that on the plane in the wee hours flying back,
Speaker 1: you know, that horse collar tackle inside the ten yard line,
Speaker 1: the penalty only ends up being worth three yards. It's
Speaker 1: first and goal in three. You still got to be
Speaker 1: able to punch it in. That's a huge missed opportunity
Speaker 1: four points off the board there when the Packers have
Speaker 1: to settle for a field goal. But clearly that's the
Speaker 1: punishment doesn't fit the crime there, right, I mean, you
Speaker 1: know that's that's a personal file, but it only ends
Speaker 1: up being three yards, and essentially it's a it's a
Speaker 1: it's an illegal touchdown saving tackle that works in the
Speaker 1: raiders favor. You know, there's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know you can't. You can't rewrite the
Speaker 1: rule book on something like that. But but it's just
Speaker 1: it's one of those things that one of those things
Speaker 1: that went against the Packers. But you have to three
Speaker 1: games in a row. Wes uh. The first half the
Speaker 1: Packers have just not been able to figure anything out
Speaker 1: on offense. I agree with you. I thought the game started,
Speaker 1: you know with the with the run heavy, the run
Speaker 1: heavy stuff. It looked like a lot of the straight
Speaker 1: ahead you know, more of I guess the classic traditional
Speaker 1: running plays with AJ Dillon were you know, grinding out
Speaker 1: some yards, moving the chains. There was a look like
Speaker 1: a breakdown or miscommunication on that third down play in
Speaker 1: UH in Raiders territory that then led to the Packers
Speaker 1: first punt. But I think Matt Lafleur thought, Okay, the run,
Speaker 1: you know, those early runs with AJ Dillon were going
Speaker 1: to We're going to set some things up, We're going
Speaker 1: to open some things up, and then everything the Packers tried,
Speaker 1: you know, they tried some you know, some end around
Speaker 1: or some more I guess unconventional or misdirection type of runs.
Speaker 1: Those weren't working. The play action wasn't really doing anything.
Speaker 1: Jordan Love made made a bad, really bad decision on
Speaker 1: his first interception, didn't see the linebacker and u and
Speaker 1: threw it right to him that gave the Raiders three points.
Speaker 1: Just nothing in the first half was working. And whether
Speaker 1: it's a matter of figuring out how guys like Aiden
Speaker 1: Hutchinson and Max Crosby are not going to you know,
Speaker 1: wreck your offense and not going to dictate how things
Speaker 1: go out there, or just finding something to hang your
Speaker 1: hat on to get the offense going to get some
Speaker 1: sort of a rhythm established Three straight games with zero,
Speaker 1: three and three points, whatever order those were in in
Speaker 1: the first half, that's just making life way too difficult
Speaker 1: for the green Bay Pass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not just a Jordan Love problem. It
Speaker 2: was an Aaron Rodgers problem too. It's almost like after
Speaker 2: the DeVante Adams era ended, there were so many times, Mike,
Speaker 2: especially in third and short, you can go to Devonte
Speaker 2: Adams and everybody knew the ball was going to Devonte Adams,
Speaker 2: but you could dial that up and you could find
Speaker 2: a way to keep moving the chains. Green Bay has
Speaker 2: kind of struggled to find that. And it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: if it's third and short or third and longer. I agree,
Speaker 2: being able to get those opportunities something you can go to.
Speaker 2: They've kind of teased it a little bit with some
Speaker 2: of the Luke Musgrave plays, but then, like you mentioned
Speaker 2: later in the game, when you need that catch light,
Speaker 2: you're not able to come up with it. First quarter.
Speaker 2: I mean I get it three points now in the
Speaker 2: last six points in the last three first halfs for
Speaker 2: green Bay. I didn't take a lot of issue with
Speaker 2: the first half, though, I thought the first quarter. I
Speaker 2: thought the first quarter actually did set the tone. The
Speaker 2: problem for Green Bay in this one was that second quarter, because,
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, you come out, you have the three
Speaker 2: and out, you have three you know, a negative yardage
Speaker 2: play to Patrick Taylor, and you're not able to get
Speaker 2: anything going after that, and then the interception to spallone
Speaker 2: that is where Spalne sorry, that's where things started to
Speaker 2: tilt a little bit more. Green Bay's defense got thrown
Speaker 2: in some tough predicaments. They came up. I thought they responded.
Speaker 2: First time since twenty eighteen that they've had back to
Speaker 2: back third down sacks to end the opposing offense's initial drives.
Speaker 2: First two initial drives. Rashaan Gary, I thought it to
Speaker 2: you to make an impact. I thought, despite losing kway
Speaker 2: Walker to the knee and Darnell Savage to the calf,
Speaker 2: the defense rallied between the pieces that were there. But
Speaker 2: it came down to those two longer series for the Raiders,
Speaker 2: and when the Packers were unable to match that, it
Speaker 2: produced points off that that's gonna be the outcome in
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to talk about the defense a little
Speaker 1: bit too, because you know, if you had told me
Speaker 1: when we were talking about this last week, if you
Speaker 1: had said, all right, Mike, Josh Jacobs and DeVante Adams
Speaker 1: are going to combine for less than one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty yards in this game, or I guess maybe it
Speaker 1: was a little more than that if you count Jacob's
Speaker 1: receiving yards. But as far as Jacob's rushing yards and
Speaker 1: adams receiving yards, I think it was one hundred and fourteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: was the total between the two. If you had told
Speaker 1: me that, I said, I would have said, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: the Packers should be in great shape here, right, And
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, it was really only one play, one
Speaker 1: damaging play by each guy. The one the twenty four
Speaker 1: yard run by Jacobs that started the long touchdown driving
Speaker 1: the third quarter, the one that ended on the first
Speaker 1: play of the fourth quarter where the Raiders took the lead,
Speaker 1: as it turned out for good. And then the the
Speaker 1: twenty one yard slant to DeVante Adams where the Packers
Speaker 1: got caught in the bad matchup. Preston Smith has lined
Speaker 1: up across from him. If you're wondering how that happens.
Speaker 1: Go and watch Matt Lafleur's press conference after the game.
Speaker 1: He was asked specifically about it. He said, Hey, the
Speaker 1: Packers were able to do that to other teams as well.
Speaker 1: With Davante Adams. It has to do with the defensive
Speaker 1: personnel aligning DeVante Adams in the slot, and then what
Speaker 1: happens is if the defense is not able to check
Speaker 1: out of a bad call, then the offense has something
Speaker 1: that they can take advantage of. And I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to make excuses. I'm speculating a little bit here, but
Speaker 1: if you want to try to check out of that call,
Speaker 1: not having either of your starting inside linebackers on the
Speaker 1: field makes that type of adjustment a lot, a lot harder.
Speaker 1: And the Packers got caught. Adams made the one really
Speaker 1: impactful play he was going to make that got them
Speaker 1: into the red zone, and then the Raiders are able
Speaker 1: to finish that drive.
Speaker 2: If I can, I just want to mention one last thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: for people, if you didn't have a chance, you'll probably
Speaker 2: touch on that. Well. Maybe I don't know how we'll
Speaker 2: handle it in terms of our coverage, but if you
Speaker 2: go back and watch the play, the Packers got caught
Speaker 2: in one of their variants of their Penny personnel, So
Speaker 2: you have three defensive linemen there. They used to toy
Speaker 2: with this package a little bit with Clay Matthews two
Speaker 2: back in the day, where you actually have the third
Speaker 2: five tech defensive lineman sort of playing the outside linebacker role.
Speaker 2: He had his hand in his dirt. I think it
Speaker 2: was Kolby Wooden and I have to go back and look.
Speaker 2: But because of that, you only have one inside linebacker
Speaker 2: on the field, and you have your nickel personnel. Well,
Speaker 2: when the Raiders go spread and they go empty backfield
Speaker 2: and they have five receivers out, that means you now
Speaker 2: have three cornerbacks. Isaam McDuffie is the inside linebacker and
Speaker 2: then by proxy, Preston becomes the other slot cornerback. It
Speaker 2: was just a tough situation Green Mead got caught into.
Speaker 2: I don't know what all goes into that. Do you
Speaker 2: need to get like how do you get Wilson over
Speaker 2: to the right side when Preston is the only one
Speaker 2: on that side with the leverage US, It's not going
Speaker 2: to come across the formation to the other side. It's
Speaker 2: it was a really tricky situation where you may found
Speaker 2: themselves in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of the it's one of those things
Speaker 1: you've got to have. You've got to have an answer
Speaker 1: for it. You've got to be able to check out
Speaker 1: of it. And you've got to be able to do
Speaker 1: that quickly. And when the offense, when the offense is
Speaker 1: able to scheme that up, they catch you in. They
Speaker 1: catch you in a bad matchup based on the personnel
Speaker 1: grouping that you have. I mean that, that's that's you know,
Speaker 1: it's an opportunity. The Raiders were were waiting for it.
Speaker 1: When they got it. When they got it, they took
Speaker 1: advantage of it. I will say too, though the defense
Speaker 1: you mentioned they stood tall in some spots. Certainly after
Speaker 1: the first interception, a first in goal, I believe from
Speaker 1: the seven yard line, the defense holds and and uh
Speaker 1: and the Raiders have to kick the field goal bottom line,
Speaker 1: you know, and and and late in the game. Yes,
Speaker 1: Carlson missed the field goal, but even if Carlson makes
Speaker 1: the field goal, it's still a seven point game, and
Speaker 1: the offense is getting the ball back there with with
Speaker 1: a chance to uh, to stay alive in the ball game.
Speaker 1: I thought, by and large, yes, the two long drives
Speaker 1: are frustrating. A fourteen play touchdown drive, a ten play
Speaker 1: touchdown drive. The Packers had their opportunities to get off
Speaker 1: the field on both of those drives. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, you hold a team in the
Speaker 1: NFL to seventeen points, that's a game you expect to win.
Speaker 1: And as I mentioned an insider inbox, I think the
Speaker 1: biggest regret that comes out of this game, especially heading
Speaker 1: into the buy and all this time to stew about
Speaker 1: it and think about it, is the Packers wasted a
Speaker 1: game where the defense played well enough to get you
Speaker 1: a win, and that's not always going to happen in
Speaker 1: this league. But the defense played well enough to get
Speaker 1: the win and the offense didn't do its part well.
Speaker 2: Russell Douglas talked about in the locker room afterwards. He said,
Speaker 2: it almost felt like destiny that we were going to
Speaker 2: find a way to win this because we were getting
Speaker 2: the stops and you just thought offensively, they were going
Speaker 2: to find that one big play. It didn't quite happen, unfortunately,
Speaker 2: and it played out the way it did. But my
Speaker 2: overwhelming takeaway from this, when I was looking back at
Speaker 2: and trying to reassess how everything went down was you know,
Speaker 2: Green Bay was in a position once again to win
Speaker 2: this game. But unlike you could say the you know,
Speaker 2: some of these other contests like the Falcons one where
Speaker 2: you found a way to lose it light, the Packers
Speaker 2: just didn't find a way to win it. And for
Speaker 2: that reason, now they sit at two and three now
Speaker 2: entering the bye week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean where you're at right now, they're really realistically,
Speaker 1: three of the five games have come down to crunch
Speaker 1: time and the Packers have come through in crunch time
Speaker 1: once and they failed in crunch time twice. And that
Speaker 1: is why you're two and three. That is why you're
Speaker 1: below five hundred at the break, because because what you
Speaker 1: do when the game is on the line is what
Speaker 1: matters more than anything else as far as the win
Speaker 1: lost column, and the Packers quite frankly have the record
Speaker 1: they deserve.
Speaker 2: And I will mention because before we transition out of this,
Speaker 2: you do have to offer a tip of the captain
Speaker 2: Jacobe Myers. I thought he had a really strong game
Speaker 2: in this thing. It wasn't about Devontae Adams, but Myers
Speaker 2: became the guy that's to start moving the chains for
Speaker 2: them until DeVante made some of those bigger plays late
Speaker 2: seven catches seventy five yards. They were very opportunistic with
Speaker 2: their tight ends as well. Jimmy Garoppolo did what he does.
Speaker 2: He found ways to kind of chip away at this
Speaker 2: thing and ultimately put the Raiders in a position to win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Unfortunately, four sacks by the defense, the one interception
Speaker 1: of missed interception by Rasul Douglas that I'm sure he's
Speaker 1: going to regret for a while. Those you know, those
Speaker 1: all played a factor here. But the Packers are two
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Speaker 1: only show this week because of the buye and we're
Speaker 1: going to try to take some time away from the
Speaker 1: office plug in for home recharge as best we can,
Speaker 1: so I want to talk a little bit, a little
Speaker 1: bit about bigger picture and what's even coming up this weekend.
Speaker 1: The Detroit Lions are four and one. They are now
Speaker 1: two games clear of everybody else in the division. And
Speaker 1: lo and behold, there's only one matchup in the NFL
Speaker 1: this coming weekend that pits two teams against each other
Speaker 1: with only one loss, and it is the Detroit Lions
Speaker 1: against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Yeah, that's going to be
Speaker 1: an interesting one. It's on the road. Detroit has to
Speaker 1: go down to Tampa Tampa coming off of a bye.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if in Week six anybody would
Speaker 1: have circled Detroit and Tampa Bay as maybe the most
Speaker 1: intriguing game on the NFL schedule. But I think it's
Speaker 1: one a lot of people are gonna have their eyes on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Will and credit to the Lions. I mean we
Speaker 2: talked about it, you and I on Sunday. They did
Speaker 2: what they were supposed to do against a winless football team, yep,
Speaker 2: dictated terms, and I thought they just dominated. Jared Goff
Speaker 2: was exceptional. I thought David Montgomery, ever since coming back
Speaker 2: from the sty injury, has looked really good. Just completely dominated,
Speaker 2: especially in the second half of that game. Tampa Bay
Speaker 2: is so scrappy and they have weapons, like I think
Speaker 2: people kind of forgotten. I'm probably included in that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike Evans and Chris Godwin didn't go anywhere. They're
Speaker 1: still there.
Speaker 2: They're still there in Baker Mayfield's using them. It's funny
Speaker 2: because you can't even say, well, the running game isn't
Speaker 2: being that productive. It wasn't that productive last year with
Speaker 2: Leonard Fournett either, so, but defensively, they still have a
Speaker 2: really good nucleus there. I think that's gonna be a
Speaker 2: really good test for Detroit's offense, seeing how they manage
Speaker 2: with the team of that caliber. But certainly when you
Speaker 2: think about teams that you know weren't exactly expected to
Speaker 2: be front runners in the NFC, these have been probably
Speaker 2: two of the bigger surprises to varying degrees out of
Speaker 2: the gates so far this season.
Speaker 1: And the other one with the Packers on there By
Speaker 1: that the fans of the NFC North will be watching
Speaker 1: Minnesota's at chic Iago. Both teams are one and four,
Speaker 1: So barring a seventy minute stale mate, as I like
Speaker 1: to say, one of these teams is going to be
Speaker 1: one and five and in last place by their lonesome
Speaker 1: in the NFC North, the Vikings. Vikings gave the Chiefs
Speaker 1: all they could handle, took them, took them right to
Speaker 1: the wire, and the Bears still trying to still trying
Speaker 1: to figure some things out, letting some opportunities get away.
Speaker 2: Well now justin Jefferson's on injured reserve. So I mean
Speaker 2: that that's gonna be an ultimate test here. You know,
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell talked about it. You have to maybe do
Speaker 2: things a little bit more unconventional on the Viking side
Speaker 2: of things. But that's a tough blow because I mean,
Speaker 2: that is your MVP, that is your cornerstone of your offense,
Speaker 2: and if he's not available with his hamstring for at
Speaker 2: least four games, it's gonna be a tough tough thing
Speaker 2: to overcome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to run one more thing past you.
Speaker 1: And I almost can't believe, you know me of the
Speaker 1: it's the week to week league, right, I almost can't
Speaker 1: believe I'm going to ask you this, but feels like
Speaker 1: I have to because Philadelphia Eagles in the San Francisco
Speaker 1: forty nine ers are both five and zero it feels
Speaker 1: to me like it's going to take either a major
Speaker 1: upset in January or a significant change of fortune for
Speaker 1: somebody before January for these two teams not to meet
Speaker 1: again for the NFC title. And it's crazy to say
Speaker 1: that in the middle of October, But does it feel
Speaker 1: like that to you?
Speaker 2: Boy? And they both reloaded, Mike, I mean like they're
Speaker 2: both better, I think versions of themselves. I mean, DeAndre
Speaker 2: Swift has sort of found a new chapter of his career.
Speaker 1: He looks like a completely different player in that Eagles offense,
Speaker 1: which is which is wild because we're seeing David Montgomery
Speaker 1: look almost like a completely different player and the Lions
Speaker 1: offense compared to you know, all of his and I
Speaker 1: know some of it was health related, but all of
Speaker 1: his like you know, fits and starts with the Bears.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because with the Bears it almost seemed like he
Speaker 2: kind of was more gadgety, like he can catch the ball,
Speaker 2: but he wasn't like between the tackles, he wasn't as productive.
Speaker 2: I've been really surprised by, I think how well Swift
Speaker 2: is fitting in the offense and how much they were
Speaker 2: able to just kind of regroup and build forward I
Speaker 2: thought Galen Hurts is coming off one of his better
Speaker 2: performances of the season in San Francisco. What can you say,
Speaker 2: like when you completely manhandle a team like Dallas that
Speaker 2: is expected to be out one of the other front
Speaker 2: runners in the NFC.
Speaker 1: Boy, that was that was the definition of a hitting
Speaker 1: on all cylinders game in every phase. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: and you don't. You don't see teams do that in
Speaker 1: you know, early to mid October, you know, for to
Speaker 1: put together a performance like that so early in the season.
Speaker 1: But that forty nine Ers squad man they have, they
Speaker 1: have a way of always getting up for the biggest games,
Speaker 1: and it was like they knew that was They knew
Speaker 1: that was a big game. They were ready for it.
Speaker 1: I still am not convinced we've seen the best of
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles yet. I still think their arrow is
Speaker 1: kind of pointing up to wherever they're going to reach
Speaker 1: their peak. I don't think the forty nine ers can
Speaker 1: play anybody can play any better than they did on
Speaker 1: Sunday Night against the Cowboys. I guess the question is
Speaker 1: ken how long can they stay at that peak? There's
Speaker 1: going to be a valley at some point there are
Speaker 1: just too many games to play, but both of those teams,
Speaker 1: it's hard not to like what you see out of
Speaker 1: those squads.
Speaker 2: And as much as we talk about the Raiders getting
Speaker 2: DeVante I mean, Philadelphia getting AJ Brown could potentially go
Speaker 2: down as one of the biggest trades of this era
Speaker 2: of football. I mean just it has been an absolute
Speaker 2: game changer for their passing game, and I think even
Speaker 2: in AJ Brown's case is really it's taken him from
Speaker 2: being one of the best receivers to being now one
Speaker 2: of the truly elite.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Well, with that, we will call it a
Speaker 1: rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted and we will
Speaker 1: head into the bye week. As I mentioned, this will
Speaker 1: be the only show this week, but we will be
Speaker 1: back next week on our regular schedules, so be sure
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Speaker 1: dot com for WES. I am Mike. Thank you for
Speaker 1: tuning in everybody. We will see you next time.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.