1 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague West and Hodkots. We're coming to 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: you hear from our studios at lambeau Field. Back in 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: the saddle on short sleep, Wes, and unfortunately we don't 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: have an uplifting victory to try to perk up the proceedings. 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: Here a tough loss for the Packers on Monday night 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: football at Allegiance Stadium in Las Vegas. The final is 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: nineteen to thirteen to the Las Vegas Raiders. And I 10 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: know we can talk about the struggles on offense in 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: the first half once again and all that. The bottom 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: line in the NFL is when you have chances to 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: win games, you've got to go win them. And the 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: Packers had two opportunities, two big time opportunities to score 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of this game with first downs 16 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas territory, and both of those possessions ended 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: with interceptions, and that's how the Raiders came out with 18 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: a win. 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and last week you and I discussed me the 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: Raiders only had one takeaway in the season. It had 21 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: come a week earlier, but sometimes they do come in bunches, 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: and in the Raiders case, it definitely happened. In this case, 23 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: three interceptions for Jordan Love, two of those going to 24 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: that same linebacker for the Raiders, Robert Splaine. 25 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: I think Splaine is How's. 26 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a new one for me. 27 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: But I'm too tired. 28 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: I am as well, and you know, the Packers just 29 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: didn't make enough plays. And I think the most bizarre 30 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: thing of this game was and we'll talk about the full, 31 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: overall encompassing part of it, but the Packers checked so 32 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: many boxes in terms of what you and I discussed 33 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: last week as the keys to victory, DeVante Adams did 34 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 2: not go off. I actually thought they did a really 35 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: good job against Josh Jacobs outside of really one twenty 36 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: four yard carry that started one of their long scoring drives. 37 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: You know, they hit Andres Carlson won the kicking battle 38 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: against his brother. There were so many different parts to this, 39 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: but Mike Matt Lafleore talked about it after, where as 40 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: you mentioned it in the intro, when you lose the 41 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: turnover differential the way Green Bay did to a team 42 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: that was dead last in the NFL. When it came 43 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: to turnover margin, it's going to be hard to find 44 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: a way to win. And for a team that did 45 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: not have Aaron Jones again for you in need of 46 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: a guy to step up. Christian Watson made a couple 47 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: of nice plays, but in the end, it just wasn't 48 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 2: enough and in Green Bay wasn't able to get that 49 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: one final play they needed to be able to pull 50 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: out a victory. 51 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that fourth quarter was certainly frustrating because you know, 52 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: you look at Packers had a earlier in the fourth quarter, 53 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: right after the Raiders had taken the lead back at 54 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: seventeen to thirteen. I believe it was the opening play 55 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: of the fourth quarter. They finished that ten play touchdown drive. 56 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: Packers came right back, had a first down at the 57 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: Las Vegas forty yard line, plenty of time left on 58 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: the clock. You're obviously looking to score a touchdown or 59 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: if you get a little bit further and can get 60 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: a field goal. It's seventeen to sixteen and it's game 61 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: on for the last ten minutes or whatever the case 62 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: might have been. But then the Packers take a sack. 63 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: Then the next pass is forced a little bit into 64 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: tight coverage gets deflected for an interception, so you get 65 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: a sack and a pick. Then, late in the fourth quarter, 66 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: after Daniel Carlson clanks the right up right fifty two yards, 67 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels with an interesting decision there to try to 68 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: kick the field goal to go up seven, as opposed 69 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: to just go for it on fourth and one, which 70 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: would have essentially iced the game based on the clock 71 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: and the timeouts. But the Packers get a break there. 72 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: The elder Carlson hits the upright, so the Packers get 73 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: great field position on the forty two. You've got almost 74 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: two full minutes on the clock, you've got a time out, 75 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: and they get a first down at the Las Vegas 76 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: thirty five yard line. Now, obviously you need a touchdown 77 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: because of that other missed opportunity. But then right when 78 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: everything seems to be going in Green Bay's direction, you 79 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: get a drop by Romeo Dobbs, a tough drop by 80 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: Luke Muskrave on a pass that Love's trying to fit 81 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: it in there with two defenders converging, so the passes 82 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: a little bit behind Musgrave, I think intentionally, but he 83 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: gets his hands on it, can't hold onto it. So 84 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: you have essentially two drops that then are followed by 85 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: an interception in the end zone when he tries to 86 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: take the shot to Watson and Love says he underthrew it. 87 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: Jordan Love stood at the podium and took his medicine. Hey, 88 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: I got to protect the ball better. Three interceptions. You know, 89 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: he has to be better in that area. But his 90 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: teammates need to be better. Wess. I mean, the Packers 91 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: had their chances in this game, and you can't put 92 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: it all on the first year starting quarterback. You can't 93 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: be given up a sack when you cross into a 94 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: pony opposing territory. Can't be dropping passes with less than 95 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: two minutes to go. Packers have a lot of stuff 96 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: to figure out on offense, particularly in the first half. 97 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: With the last three games in a row, the first 98 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: half has been has been really a really big struggle 99 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: on offense. But the Packers have a lot more issues 100 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: right now than just the fact that Jordan Love through 101 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: three interceptions. 102 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, and just trying to figure out a plan. You know, 103 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: with Max c he wasn't How do I say this 104 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: because I don't want to be disrespectful to Max Crosby, 105 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 2: but Max Crosby wasn't moving around as much as Aiden 106 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: Hutchinson did, but then he comes on a stunt which 107 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: basically goes around the Packers' entire offensive line, yeah, and 108 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 2: gets to the quarterback. I mean things like that, you 109 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: just you can't have it happen that way. And I 110 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: just felt like when we talked at the beginning of 111 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: the season, Mike, it was all about, you got a 112 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: young quarterback, you need everybody else to raise their game 113 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 2: up to kind of take the pressure off of him, 114 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: and that just hasn't happened lately. I mean it's been 115 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: a lot on Jordan love to make things happen, to 116 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: make plays, and when you try to force the play, 117 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: you sometimes can force the takeaway and this was one 118 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: of those cases. I really like the plan coming out 119 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: of the gate. It was it was very run heavy based. 120 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: You know, there was some things about, you know, the 121 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: first fifteen plays maybe a lot of that scripted for 122 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: Aaron Jones and you don't have them. But I thought 123 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 2: aj Dillon really stepped up. Has you ran for twenty 124 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: carries for seventy six yards? Had that one series after 125 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 2: the takeaway from ruby Ford where he marches down the field, 126 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 2: basically kind of pulling the offense on his back. Thirty 127 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: four yards on six carries. They get the touchdown, they're 128 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: only touchdown of the game. But when the Packers had 129 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: to go the full distance of the field, trying to 130 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: play air free football for ten plays, twelve plays without 131 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: a negative yardage, play without a penalty, proved really problematic 132 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,119 Speaker 2: for green Bay. And when you go through a first 133 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: half and it's just one touch for Christian Watson, nothing 134 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: yet for Romeo Dobbs, nothing really for Jaden Reid, it's 135 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: tough to get the offensive wherethm going. It is funny though, 136 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 2: the fact that Green Bay was able to establish aj 137 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: Dillon I think went a long way to that seventy 138 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: seven yard completion to Christian wattson absolutely the play actually 139 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 2: play rolling across his body. 140 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, busted busted coverage there by the Raiders, and yeah, 141 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: Watson made the big play. 142 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: But in those explosive games, if you're going to have setbacks, 143 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: you need to be able to counter with explosives. And 144 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: that's really the only one green Bay was really able 145 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 2: to muster in this thing. And and unfortunately, as you mentioned, 146 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 2: what the horse collar ends up only being three points. 147 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that was that was a tough break because, 148 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: as I mentioned an insider inbox when I was writing 149 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: that on the plane in the wee hours flying back, 150 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, that horse collar tackle inside the ten yard line, 151 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: the penalty only ends up being worth three yards. It's 152 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: first and goal in three. You still got to be 153 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: able to punch it in. That's a huge missed opportunity 154 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: four points off the board there when the Packers have 155 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: to settle for a field goal. But clearly that's the 156 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: punishment doesn't fit the crime there, right, I mean, you 157 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: know that's that's a personal file, but it only ends 158 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: up being three yards, and essentially it's a it's a 159 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: it's an illegal touchdown saving tackle that works in the 160 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: raiders favor. You know, there's nothing you can do about it. 161 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you know you can't. You can't rewrite the 162 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: rule book on something like that. But but it's just 163 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: it's one of those things that one of those things 164 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: that went against the Packers. But you have to three 165 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: games in a row. Wes uh. The first half the 166 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: Packers have just not been able to figure anything out 167 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: on offense. I agree with you. I thought the game started, 168 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: you know with the with the run heavy, the run 169 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: heavy stuff. It looked like a lot of the straight 170 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: ahead you know, more of I guess the classic traditional 171 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: running plays with AJ Dillon were you know, grinding out 172 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: some yards, moving the chains. There was a look like 173 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: a breakdown or miscommunication on that third down play in 174 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,679 Speaker 1: UH in Raiders territory that then led to the Packers 175 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: first punt. But I think Matt Lafleur thought, Okay, the run, 176 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: you know, those early runs with AJ Dillon were going 177 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: to We're going to set some things up, We're going 178 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: to open some things up, and then everything the Packers tried, 179 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: you know, they tried some you know, some end around 180 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: or some more I guess unconventional or misdirection type of runs. 181 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: Those weren't working. The play action wasn't really doing anything. 182 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: Jordan Love made made a bad, really bad decision on 183 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: his first interception, didn't see the linebacker and u and 184 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: threw it right to him that gave the Raiders three points. 185 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: Just nothing in the first half was working. And whether 186 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: it's a matter of figuring out how guys like Aiden 187 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: Hutchinson and Max Crosby are not going to you know, 188 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: wreck your offense and not going to dictate how things 189 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: go out there, or just finding something to hang your 190 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: hat on to get the offense going to get some 191 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: sort of a rhythm established Three straight games with zero, 192 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: three and three points, whatever order those were in in 193 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: the first half, that's just making life way too difficult 194 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: for the green Bay Pass. 195 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not just a Jordan Love problem. It 196 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: was an Aaron Rodgers problem too. It's almost like after 197 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: the DeVante Adams era ended, there were so many times, Mike, 198 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: especially in third and short, you can go to Devonte 199 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: Adams and everybody knew the ball was going to Devonte Adams, 200 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: but you could dial that up and you could find 201 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: a way to keep moving the chains. Green Bay has 202 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: kind of struggled to find that. And it doesn't matter 203 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: if it's third and short or third and longer. I agree, 204 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 2: being able to get those opportunities something you can go to. 205 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: They've kind of teased it a little bit with some 206 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 2: of the Luke Musgrave plays, but then, like you mentioned 207 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: later in the game, when you need that catch light, 208 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: you're not able to come up with it. First quarter. 209 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: I mean I get it three points now in the 210 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: last six points in the last three first halfs for 211 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: green Bay. I didn't take a lot of issue with 212 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: the first half, though, I thought the first quarter. I 213 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: thought the first quarter actually did set the tone. The 214 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: problem for Green Bay in this one was that second quarter, because, 215 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: as you mentioned, you come out, you have the three 216 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: and out, you have three you know, a negative yardage 217 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: play to Patrick Taylor, and you're not able to get 218 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: anything going after that, and then the interception to spallone 219 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: that is where Spalne sorry, that's where things started to 220 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: tilt a little bit more. Green Bay's defense got thrown 221 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: in some tough predicaments. They came up. I thought they responded. 222 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: First time since twenty eighteen that they've had back to 223 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: back third down sacks to end the opposing offense's initial drives. 224 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: First two initial drives. Rashaan Gary, I thought it to 225 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: you to make an impact. I thought, despite losing kway 226 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: Walker to the knee and Darnell Savage to the calf, 227 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: the defense rallied between the pieces that were there. But 228 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: it came down to those two longer series for the Raiders, 229 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: and when the Packers were unable to match that, it 230 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: produced points off that that's gonna be the outcome in 231 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: the game. 232 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to talk about the defense a little 233 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: bit too, because you know, if you had told me 234 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: when we were talking about this last week, if you 235 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: had said, all right, Mike, Josh Jacobs and DeVante Adams 236 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: are going to combine for less than one hundred and 237 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: twenty yards in this game, or I guess maybe it 238 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: was a little more than that if you count Jacob's 239 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: receiving yards. But as far as Jacob's rushing yards and 240 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: adams receiving yards, I think it was one hundred and fourteen. Yeah, 241 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: was the total between the two. If you had told 242 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: me that, I said, I would have said, you know, hey, 243 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: the Packers should be in great shape here, right, And 244 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, it was really only one play, one 245 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: damaging play by each guy. The one the twenty four 246 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: yard run by Jacobs that started the long touchdown driving 247 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: the third quarter, the one that ended on the first 248 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: play of the fourth quarter where the Raiders took the lead, 249 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: as it turned out for good. And then the the 250 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: twenty one yard slant to DeVante Adams where the Packers 251 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: got caught in the bad matchup. Preston Smith has lined 252 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: up across from him. If you're wondering how that happens. 253 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: Go and watch Matt Lafleur's press conference after the game. 254 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: He was asked specifically about it. He said, Hey, the 255 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: Packers were able to do that to other teams as well. 256 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: With Davante Adams. It has to do with the defensive 257 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: personnel aligning DeVante Adams in the slot, and then what 258 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: happens is if the defense is not able to check 259 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: out of a bad call, then the offense has something 260 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: that they can take advantage of. And I'm not trying 261 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: to make excuses. I'm speculating a little bit here, but 262 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: if you want to try to check out of that call, 263 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: not having either of your starting inside linebackers on the 264 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: field makes that type of adjustment a lot, a lot harder. 265 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: And the Packers got caught. Adams made the one really 266 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: impactful play he was going to make that got them 267 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: into the red zone, and then the Raiders are able 268 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: to finish that drive. 269 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 2: If I can, I just want to mention one last thing. Yeah, 270 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: for people, if you didn't have a chance, you'll probably 271 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: touch on that. Well. Maybe I don't know how we'll 272 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 2: handle it in terms of our coverage, but if you 273 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 2: go back and watch the play, the Packers got caught 274 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: in one of their variants of their Penny personnel, So 275 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: you have three defensive linemen there. They used to toy 276 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 2: with this package a little bit with Clay Matthews two 277 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: back in the day, where you actually have the third 278 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 2: five tech defensive lineman sort of playing the outside linebacker role. 279 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: He had his hand in his dirt. I think it 280 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: was Kolby Wooden and I have to go back and look. 281 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: But because of that, you only have one inside linebacker 282 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 2: on the field, and you have your nickel personnel. Well, 283 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: when the Raiders go spread and they go empty backfield 284 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: and they have five receivers out, that means you now 285 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 2: have three cornerbacks. Isaam McDuffie is the inside linebacker and 286 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: then by proxy, Preston becomes the other slot cornerback. It 287 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: was just a tough situation Green Mead got caught into. 288 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: I don't know what all goes into that. Do you 289 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 2: need to get like how do you get Wilson over 290 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: to the right side when Preston is the only one 291 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 2: on that side with the leverage US, It's not going 292 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: to come across the formation to the other side. It's 293 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: it was a really tricky situation where you may found 294 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: themselves in. 295 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of the it's one of those things 296 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: you've got to have. You've got to have an answer 297 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: for it. You've got to be able to check out 298 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: of it. And you've got to be able to do 299 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: that quickly. And when the offense, when the offense is 300 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: able to scheme that up, they catch you in. They 301 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: catch you in a bad matchup based on the personnel 302 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: grouping that you have. I mean that, that's that's you know, 303 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: it's an opportunity. The Raiders were were waiting for it. 304 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: When they got it. When they got it, they took 305 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: advantage of it. I will say too, though the defense 306 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: you mentioned they stood tall in some spots. Certainly after 307 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: the first interception, a first in goal, I believe from 308 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: the seven yard line, the defense holds and and uh 309 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: and the Raiders have to kick the field goal bottom line, 310 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, and and and late in the game. Yes, 311 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: Carlson missed the field goal, but even if Carlson makes 312 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: the field goal, it's still a seven point game, and 313 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: the offense is getting the ball back there with with 314 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: a chance to uh, to stay alive in the ball game. 315 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: I thought, by and large, yes, the two long drives 316 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: are frustrating. A fourteen play touchdown drive, a ten play 317 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: touchdown drive. The Packers had their opportunities to get off 318 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: the field on both of those drives. But at the 319 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: end of the day, you hold a team in the 320 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: NFL to seventeen points, that's a game you expect to win. 321 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: And as I mentioned an insider inbox, I think the 322 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: biggest regret that comes out of this game, especially heading 323 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: into the buy and all this time to stew about 324 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: it and think about it, is the Packers wasted a 325 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: game where the defense played well enough to get you 326 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: a win, and that's not always going to happen in 327 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: this league. But the defense played well enough to get 328 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: the win and the offense didn't do its part well. 329 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: Russell Douglas talked about in the locker room afterwards. He said, 330 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: it almost felt like destiny that we were going to 331 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: find a way to win this because we were getting 332 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: the stops and you just thought offensively, they were going 333 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: to find that one big play. It didn't quite happen, unfortunately, 334 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: and it played out the way it did. But my 335 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: overwhelming takeaway from this, when I was looking back at 336 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: and trying to reassess how everything went down was you know, 337 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: Green Bay was in a position once again to win 338 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: this game. But unlike you could say the you know, 339 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: some of these other contests like the Falcons one where 340 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: you found a way to lose it light, the Packers 341 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: just didn't find a way to win it. And for 342 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: that reason, now they sit at two and three now 343 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: entering the bye week. 344 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean where you're at right now, they're really realistically, 345 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: three of the five games have come down to crunch 346 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: time and the Packers have come through in crunch time 347 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: once and they failed in crunch time twice. And that 348 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: is why you're two and three. That is why you're 349 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: below five hundred at the break, because because what you 350 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: do when the game is on the line is what 351 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: matters more than anything else as far as the win 352 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: lost column, and the Packers quite frankly have the record 353 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: they deserve. 354 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: And I will mention because before we transition out of this, 355 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: you do have to offer a tip of the captain 356 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: Jacobe Myers. I thought he had a really strong game 357 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: in this thing. It wasn't about Devontae Adams, but Myers 358 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: became the guy that's to start moving the chains for 359 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: them until DeVante made some of those bigger plays late 360 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: seven catches seventy five yards. They were very opportunistic with 361 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: their tight ends as well. Jimmy Garoppolo did what he does. 362 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 2: He found ways to kind of chip away at this 363 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: thing and ultimately put the Raiders in a position to win. 364 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Unfortunately, four sacks by the defense, the one interception 365 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: of missed interception by Rasul Douglas that I'm sure he's 366 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: going to regret for a while. Those you know, those 367 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: all played a factor here. But the Packers are two 368 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: and three. A little bit of sponsor business here. West 369 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: Serious XM NFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up 370 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: to the minute NFL news that Troopo football fanatics need. 371 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: Twenty four to seven, three sixty five and I had Cousin Subs. 372 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: We have something for everyone like our Wisconsin cheese curds, 373 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: mac and cheese, golden fries, and creamy shakes, all paired 374 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: with your favorite sub or sub in a bowl. Cousin 375 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: Subs fifty years of better. All right, this is our 376 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: only show this week because of the buye and we're 377 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: going to try to take some time away from the 378 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: office plug in for home recharge as best we can, 379 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: so I want to talk a little bit, a little 380 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: bit about bigger picture and what's even coming up this weekend. 381 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: The Detroit Lions are four and one. They are now 382 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: two games clear of everybody else in the division. And 383 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: lo and behold, there's only one matchup in the NFL 384 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: this coming weekend that pits two teams against each other 385 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: with only one loss, and it is the Detroit Lions 386 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Yeah, that's going to be 387 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: an interesting one. It's on the road. Detroit has to 388 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: go down to Tampa Tampa coming off of a bye. 389 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: But I don't know if in Week six anybody would 390 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: have circled Detroit and Tampa Bay as maybe the most 391 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: intriguing game on the NFL schedule. But I think it's 392 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: one a lot of people are gonna have their eyes on. 393 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Will and credit to the Lions. I mean we 394 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: talked about it, you and I on Sunday. They did 395 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: what they were supposed to do against a winless football team, yep, 396 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: dictated terms, and I thought they just dominated. Jared Goff 397 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: was exceptional. I thought David Montgomery, ever since coming back 398 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 2: from the sty injury, has looked really good. Just completely dominated, 399 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 2: especially in the second half of that game. Tampa Bay 400 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: is so scrappy and they have weapons, like I think 401 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: people kind of forgotten. I'm probably included in that. 402 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike Evans and Chris Godwin didn't go anywhere. They're 403 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: still there. 404 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: They're still there in Baker Mayfield's using them. It's funny 405 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 2: because you can't even say, well, the running game isn't 406 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 2: being that productive. It wasn't that productive last year with 407 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: Leonard Fournett either, so, but defensively, they still have a 408 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: really good nucleus there. I think that's gonna be a 409 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: really good test for Detroit's offense, seeing how they manage 410 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 2: with the team of that caliber. But certainly when you 411 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 2: think about teams that you know weren't exactly expected to 412 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 2: be front runners in the NFC, these have been probably 413 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 2: two of the bigger surprises to varying degrees out of 414 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 2: the gates so far this season. 415 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: And the other one with the Packers on there By 416 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: that the fans of the NFC North will be watching 417 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: Minnesota's at chic Iago. Both teams are one and four, 418 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: So barring a seventy minute stale mate, as I like 419 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: to say, one of these teams is going to be 420 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: one and five and in last place by their lonesome 421 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: in the NFC North, the Vikings. Vikings gave the Chiefs 422 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: all they could handle, took them, took them right to 423 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: the wire, and the Bears still trying to still trying 424 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: to figure some things out, letting some opportunities get away. 425 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 2: Well now justin Jefferson's on injured reserve. So I mean 426 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: that that's gonna be an ultimate test here. You know, 427 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell talked about it. You have to maybe do 428 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: things a little bit more unconventional on the Viking side 429 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 2: of things. But that's a tough blow because I mean, 430 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: that is your MVP, that is your cornerstone of your offense, 431 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: and if he's not available with his hamstring for at 432 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 2: least four games, it's gonna be a tough tough thing 433 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 2: to overcome. 434 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to run one more thing past you. 435 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: And I almost can't believe, you know me of the 436 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: it's the week to week league, right, I almost can't 437 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: believe I'm going to ask you this, but feels like 438 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: I have to because Philadelphia Eagles in the San Francisco 439 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: forty nine ers are both five and zero it feels 440 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: to me like it's going to take either a major 441 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: upset in January or a significant change of fortune for 442 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: somebody before January for these two teams not to meet 443 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: again for the NFC title. And it's crazy to say 444 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: that in the middle of October, But does it feel 445 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: like that to you? 446 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 2: Boy? And they both reloaded, Mike, I mean like they're 447 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 2: both better, I think versions of themselves. I mean, DeAndre 448 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: Swift has sort of found a new chapter of his career. 449 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: He looks like a completely different player in that Eagles offense, 450 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: which is which is wild because we're seeing David Montgomery 451 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: look almost like a completely different player and the Lions 452 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: offense compared to you know, all of his and I 453 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: know some of it was health related, but all of 454 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: his like you know, fits and starts with the Bears. 455 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, because with the Bears it almost seemed like he 456 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 2: kind of was more gadgety, like he can catch the ball, 457 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: but he wasn't like between the tackles, he wasn't as productive. 458 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 2: I've been really surprised by, I think how well Swift 459 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: is fitting in the offense and how much they were 460 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 2: able to just kind of regroup and build forward I 461 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: thought Galen Hurts is coming off one of his better 462 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: performances of the season in San Francisco. What can you say, 463 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: like when you completely manhandle a team like Dallas that 464 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 2: is expected to be out one of the other front 465 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 2: runners in the NFC. 466 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: Boy, that was that was the definition of a hitting 467 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: on all cylinders game in every phase. I mean, you know, 468 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: and you don't. You don't see teams do that in 469 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: you know, early to mid October, you know, for to 470 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: put together a performance like that so early in the season. 471 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: But that forty nine Ers squad man they have, they 472 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: have a way of always getting up for the biggest games, 473 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: and it was like they knew that was They knew 474 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: that was a big game. They were ready for it. 475 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: I still am not convinced we've seen the best of 476 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles yet. I still think their arrow is 477 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: kind of pointing up to wherever they're going to reach 478 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: their peak. I don't think the forty nine ers can 479 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: play anybody can play any better than they did on 480 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: Sunday Night against the Cowboys. I guess the question is 481 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: ken how long can they stay at that peak? There's 482 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,239 Speaker 1: going to be a valley at some point there are 483 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: just too many games to play, but both of those teams, 484 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: it's hard not to like what you see out of 485 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: those squads. 486 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 2: And as much as we talk about the Raiders getting 487 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 2: DeVante I mean, Philadelphia getting AJ Brown could potentially go 488 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: down as one of the biggest trades of this era 489 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: of football. I mean just it has been an absolute 490 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: game changer for their passing game, and I think even 491 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 2: in AJ Brown's case is really it's taken him from 492 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: being one of the best receivers to being now one 493 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: of the truly elite. 494 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Well, with that, we will call it a 495 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted and we will 496 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: head into the bye week. As I mentioned, this will 497 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: be the only show this week, but we will be 498 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: back next week on our regular schedules, so be sure 499 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: to follow all of our coverage of the team on 500 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: dot com for WES. I am Mike. Thank you for 501 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: tuning in everybody. We will see you next time. 502 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 2: Mm hmm.