WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Hard Day's Night 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:06.600 Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:13.400 the Bengals Booth Podcast. The It's been a hard days night. Addition, 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:16.639 as the NFL Draft comes to an end after three 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:20.640 days and two hundred and fifty nine picks, coming up, 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:23.200 we'll hear from members of the coaching staff on the 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:26.360 five players selected by the Bengals on Saturday, and then 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:29.440 Dave Lapham joins me to discuss the final day of 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:32.920 the draft and how it impacts the current roster. The 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.560 Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you by Paycorp. More 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:41.120 than twenty nine thousand customers trust Paycorp to help them recruit, 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:48.000 pay engage, and retain employees. 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After not having 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:39.120 the opportunity to discuss offensive players with reporters prior to 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:44.600 Day three, offensive coordinator Brian Callahan jokingly wore a hello, 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:49.120 my name is Brian nametag to a news conference following 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.720 the fourth round selection of Purdue wide receiver Charlie Jones. 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:57.240 Jones led all FPS receivers last year with one hundred 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:00.400 and ten receptions and broke the Purdue record for receiving 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:04.279 yards with oney three hundred and sixty one. He finished 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:08.480 twelfth in the country in touchdown catches with twelve. Jones 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:11.359 is five to eleven, one hundred and seventy six pounds 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:14.600 and ran a four four three forty at the combine. 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:18.519 He primarily played outside receiver at Purdue, but he has 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:22.320 the profile of a slot receiver in the NFL. Here's 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.280 receivers coach Troy Walters. 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:29.799 And has great ball skills. Anytime he's in a fifty 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.000 to fifty contested catch situation, he seemed to come down 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:36.800 with him and so really everybody on our roster all 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:40.160 the receivers that we have have great ball skills, and 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.520 so he adds to that as a guy that no 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:44.760 matter where you throw the ball, he's gonna make the play. 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:46.120 He's a he's a. 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:50.120 Technical route runner, and so if it's a fifteen yard route, 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:51.240 he's gonna run fifteen. 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:52.320 If it's you. 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:55.120 Know, twelve yards, and he's gonna get twelve. He knows 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.640 how to manipulate coverages, the defenders at the top of 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.040 his routes. He just knows how to get open. He's 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:04.600 a football player and that's what we need. And you know, 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.480 very similar to when I was in Indianaupse with Peyton 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:11.480 Manning with Joe. You know, Joe, he wants you to 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.679 be in the right spot at the right time, and 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.160 that's what Charlie does. He's going to be in the 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.680 right spot. He's someone that Joe can count on. He's 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.280 going to be able to count on. And all the 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:24.640 receivers we have are those type of guys that Joe 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.720 counts on. He has confidence in. He knows they're going 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:29.639 to run the right routes, do the right things, and 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:31.160 so we're excited to have him. 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.480 Since the Bengals have one of the NFL's best wide 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:39.040 receiver Trios and Chase Higgins and Boyd Jones's biggest opportunity 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:43.240 to contribute right away could come as a return specialist. 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.760 He had a kick return touchdown and a punt return 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:50.520 touchdown in his college career. Here's Brian Callahan. 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.240 I think he was the twenty twenty one Big Ten 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:57.320 Special Teams Player of the Year. He can kick return, 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.320 he can punt return. He's got versatility to play all 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.440 three positions for us on offense, So a ton of 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:06.120 value in what he can bring to us, particularly early on. 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.320 He's got a path to see the field potentially in 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:13.440 competition as a returner at both returner spots. He's got 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:15.680 flexibility as a receiver, and he's got a ton of 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.920 production in a good conference. And so he was at 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.000 the spot that we were at in the fourth round. 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:22.800 Felt like he was a no brainer AD with a 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.320 guy that's got a lot of ability to help us 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:26.360 down the road. 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:26.520 Here. 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.240 The Bengals have not returned a punt for a touchdown 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:34.479 in the last ten years. 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They're 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:41.240 free to play with tickets and signed merchandise up for grabs. 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:45.599 Find both inside the Bengals app. In the fifth round, 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:49.920 the Bengals chose a running back, Chase Brown from Illinois. 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:52.440 He's a shorter back with four to four to three 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:56.679 speed who averaged twenty seven carries a game last year 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:00.920 while rushing for one thousand, six hundred and three yards. 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:05.440 He had ten touchdown runs and added three touchdown catches. 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.800 Here's Zach Taylor on the state of the running back 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:12.120 room after adding the five nine, two hundred and nine 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:13.640 pound Chase Brown. 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:16.200 I feel like you got a good mixture. 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:16.560 Guys. 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:20.599 We we got three known quantities there with with mixing 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:25.160 Trevion and Chris, and they all know the expectations there. 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:26.560 And now you get a chance to add another one, 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:30.719 Chase to the mix. Just you know, tremendous college career 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.920 two years, over one thousand yards, almost led DNCA and 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.960 rushing this year she just came up shy, you know. 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.599 So again he's he's carried the load for those guys. 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:41.720 We feel like he's got great vision and balance as 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:44.760 a runner and patience, and so I like, I like 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:46.040 what he's going to bring to the room as well. 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:47.440 And then we'll just see how it all shakes off 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:47.800 from there. 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.000 Well, the first of two picks in the sixth round, 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:54.240 the Bengals took a lottery ticket of sorts in Princeton 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:59.080 wide receiver andre Yosi Vosh. He's six ' three added 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:02.599 an incredible as athlete, earning first team All American honors 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:06.360 in the seven event heptathlon. He has four to four 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:10.560 speed and a thirty nine inch vertical But yo see 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:13.800 Vosh isn't a track star trying to play football. He 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.520 had sixty six catches for nine hundred and forty three 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:20.560 yards in a ten game IVY League season. Here again, 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.599 his wide receivers coach Troy Walters. 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:28.000 We're we're excited upstairs to have a guy like this 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:33.400 with so many, so much upside, the traits, physical tools, 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:36.839 and then he's just a he's a good kid and 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:39.320 a hard worker, and so the sky's the limit and 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.400 we're gonna bring it out of him. And that's my job. 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.840 My job is developed. Whether it's a first round pick, 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.000 a sixth round pick, a free agent. I treat them 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:48.440 all the same. 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:49.200 When they get here. 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.280 You're gonna learn to playbook and we're gonna go out 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.680 there and we're gonna work, We're gonna learn and develop, 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:59.440 develop fundamentals, and the expectations don't change, you know. I 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:01.720 expect him to come in, both of those guys, him 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:05.680 and Charlie to come in and learn to playbook when 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.560 they get on the field to produce. And so yeah, 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.440 it's a challenge, but you want to guys that You 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:14.720 want a guy that's willing to work, and he's willing 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.000 to work. He's willing to put into work. He knows 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.240 how good he wants to be, and so that's always 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.440 fun to have a guy that is ready to work. 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:26.440 Bengals brought Yo C. Bosh to town for a Top 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:29.600 thirty visit, and we're the only NFL team to do so, 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:33.360 although after playing at Princeton, Andre had local visits with 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:37.200 the Jets, Giants, and Eagles. The Bengals Booth Podcast is 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.720 brought to you by Alta Fiber, future proof fiber Internet 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:45.320 capable of delivering multi gigabit speeds designed to take your home, business, 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:48.440 and community to a new level. Elevate your connection with 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:53.560 Alta Fiber by trading back three spots in the third round, 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:57.119 The Bengals received the final pick of the sixth round, 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:02.120 and they used it on Michigan punter Robbins after taking 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:03.800 over for Kevin Huber last year. 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.000 Drew Crisman started. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:10.040 Well but faded down the stretch. Robbins was picked to 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.520 compete for the job, and as a drafted player, will 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.920 likely be considered the favorite to win it. Here's special 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.120 teams coordinator Darren Simmons. 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:22.640 You know, he brings something different that we haven't had 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:26.440 here in a bit. He's a hangtime guy. He loves 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.440 get the ball up and does a really good job 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.480 of getting great hang time. I think he led college 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:33.280 football the last two years in hang time. So this 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.400 guy really gets the ball up in the air really well, 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.800 you know. And obviously there is something to playing in 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.360 this you know climate in the country that that does 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:42.200 matter to me some. 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.480 He's obviously played a lot of big games at AD Michigan. 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.720 The other attractive thing too is he held, you know, 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:51.160 for Jake Moody, who was a third round pick this 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.160 year too, So I feel really good about you know 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.560 the other half of his job, which is holding. So 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.719 I feel very confident in Brad's ability to come in here. 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.000 Do we need him to do to be an effective 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:02.840 pun in this Division. 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:08.360 The bengals seventh round pick was cornerback dj Ivy out 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:11.240 of the University of Miami. He's six feet tall with 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:15.760 long arms and four four six speed, but had inconsistent tape. 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:17.040 Here's Zach Taylor. 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.679 Yeah, DJs guy we get to know in the pre 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:23.040 draft process. He came through here in a top thirty visit, 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:28.080 so again he's got good measurables and was a starter 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:30.240 this year in Miami down there, so we feel like 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.679 in the seventh round that provided good value for us. 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:34.720 We got to know him as he came through the building, 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:37.000 really liked what he was about, and so we felt 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:38.280 like they're in the seventh round. That was a good 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:39.480 fit for us. 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:43.400 Ivy has certainly experienced. He played in fifty eight games 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:47.760 at Miami and started thirty three. The Bengals Booth podcast 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.600 is brought to you by Kettering Health, the official healthcare 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:52.880 provider of the Bengals. With more than one hundred and 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:56.640 twenty care facilities and fifteen hundred care providers, Kettering Health 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:00.160 is committed to guiding you to your best health. Is 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:04.280 at ketteringhealth dot org to learn more. Now time for 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:09.640 a draft wrap up with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham Lap. 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:11.840 Let's start with the five picks the Bengals made on 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:15.920 Day three in the fourth round, Wide receiver Charlie Jones. 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:20.160 I should say wide receiver slash return specialist, because I 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.720 think the latter half of that is probably his role 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:26.600 to begin with five' eleven one seventy six. So he's 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:30.560 smaller than you'd like, but incredibly productive. Ran a four 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.319 four three forty had one hundred and ten catches to 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.160 lead college football last year. He's got a couple of 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.880 return touchdowns. One is a punt returner, one is a 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.240 kick returner in his career. What'd you think of the 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.320 addition of produced Charlie Jones. 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:45.760 Yeah, I think he's uh, he's going to be a 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:50.080 nice addition. A guy like that that's got short space, 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.280 quick news, can sink his hips and then not a 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:56.200 cut precise route runner. You know, if Joe Burrow is 0:10:56.240 --> 0:11:00.240 expecting him to run a fifteen yard hook pattern in, 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:02.319 pattern in and out or whatever, he's not going to 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:03.520 break it off at thirteen. 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:05.920 He's not going to take it out to sixteen or seventeen. 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.560 He's going to be right at fifteen and the ball 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.640 is going to be in the air before he comes 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:11.000 out of. 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:14.160 That break, and that's that's what makes the passing game go. 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:20.840 So I think that Joe Burrow will establish a real, 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:24.880 real significant trust level with this guy in the early 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:28.200 stages of training camp when you have a route runner 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:31.920 like he is, and he's got, you know, speed, very 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:36.400 good speed to go with it. Man, some guys can 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:39.840 really almost when they're running their route, they look like 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.560 they're covered. They sink their ips and they break so 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:44.600 quickly they put their foot in the ground and they 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:46.400 get such quick separation. 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.120 That you know they're gonna get they're going to. 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.640 Pull away from defensive backs because of that ability to 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:53.880 get in and out of in and out of their cuts, 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:55.400 that short space quickness. 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:57.560 So he's he's really got it all. The other thing 0:11:58.000 --> 0:11:59.720 is that he's very very sure handed. 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:04.280 You know, he's got sticky fingers, sticky hands, and he 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:05.160 set records. 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:08.120 He was very very very diligent. 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:11.319 And transferring a couple of times, then finally ends up 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.760 at Purdue and has a record setting season. And I 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:19.040 think that on top of the special team's return capabilities, 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.440 that will help Darren Simmons, He's going to have some 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:25.240 value as a rookie. If he does win the return job, 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:29.200 I think that he will be the fourth receiver that 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:32.120 will get him a few snaps a game, and that 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:37.199 those snaps could increase as he posts results during doing 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:40.640 those in the early stages of that role, that role 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:41.360 could expand. 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:43.640 I think he's a great pick. I really do. 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:47.600 I think that they got themselves somebody. He reminds me 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:51.120 of a guy. It sounds like anyway that that he's 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:52.840 a lot like a guy by the name of Charlie 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:56.760 Joiner that Kenny Anderson had with the Cincinnati Bengals in 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.679 the early stages of my career. Just a just an 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:03.280 extremely effective route runner that catches everything. 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:04.280 That's I praise. 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.800 Charlie Joyner wound up in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:11.280 It's interesting with Charlie Jones, the player the Bengals selected. 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:13.440 I was looking back at some of his games last 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:16.600 year when they faced the best competition on their schedule. 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.120 He had thirteen catches for one hundred and sixty two 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:23.599 yards against Michigan, hopefully not against DJ Turner at coverage. 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.240 He had twelve catches for one hundred and fifty three 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:29.240 yards against Penn State, so hopefully that was with Joey 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:32.720 Porter Junior in coverage. But to me, that's pretty telling 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.760 when you have performances like that against really good competition. 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:40.640 Couldn't agree more. Dan, You know, the great ones, the 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:44.720 bigger the stage, the better they perform. And you know, 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:46.880 it seems to be the case with this young man. 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:50.000 I mean, he rises to the occasion. There's there's no 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:53.440 question about it. And now he's going to be challenged 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.360 on a on a regular basis, on a week to 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:58.559 week basis in the National Football League. 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:00.559 But it seems like you know he. 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:04.200 Is, that's in his DNA. He just wants to compete. 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.960 He wants to compete at an extremely high level. He's 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:11.680 got the ability to to diagnose coverages on pre snap reads. 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:13.720 He's not surprised by things. 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:17.040 I think that you know, he's gonna he's gonna pick 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:20.560 this offense up very quickly. Purdue had a very sophisticated 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:24.040 passing attack. I don't think that the Bengals route tree 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.800 is going to surprise him. I think that the route 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:30.320 tree that that they ran at at Purdue is very extensive. 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:31.960 These days. 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.760 It's not rowt tree, it's route forest. There's multiple trees. 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:36.720 I mean there's there's a lot of things that they 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.760 ask receivers to do, and uh, fortunately for him and 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:44.040 he gets some great preparation for what you know, Zach 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.840 Taylor and the Bengals coaching staff, Coach Callahan and everybody 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:48.840 else is gonna ask him to do in the Bengals 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:49.480 passing attack. 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:52.320 You reference the possibility of him being the four to 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:56.400 receiver this year. I brought up the AFC Championship game 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.800 and we were talking to Brian Callahan and Troy Walters 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:02.400 because when Tyler Boyd got hurt on the Bengals for 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.680 a scoring drive, there was a big drop off offensively 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:10.120 after that injury happened. Do you think that Charlie Jones 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.240 is potentially ahead of Trenton Irwin on the on the 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.640 totem pole and and anybody else they have in that 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:18.480 room after the Big three? 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:20.760 Well, I think he's going to earn it. 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:24.640 But I think that that the vision is that that 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:29.560 he could really kill two birds with one stone and 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.560 you know, be the return guy as well as the guy. 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:37.400 That assumes those snaps as the fourth role, so as 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:38.600 the fourth receiver. 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:42.800 So potentially you know that he could he could assume 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:46.000 a couple of very important roles for the Cincinnati Bengals 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:50.160 and maybe free up a roster spot and so doing 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.520 and having instead of having two guys filling those roles, 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.760 you know, maybe take keep one less receiver. But that 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.520 might not make a whole lot of sense, honestly, because, 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:04.400 like you say, the injury factor, and it's a wide 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.560 receiver centric offense, and you certainly don't want to be 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.880 in a situation where you're shorthanded halfway through the season 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.080 because of an injury and you have to go out 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:16.680 and hit the streets and there might not be anybody 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.240 out in the streets that has any idea of what 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:22.840 the Bengals offense is all about. So you know, you'll 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:26.680 keep from your practice squad obviously, but you definitely don't 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:30.120 want to shorthand yourself at that wide receiver position in 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.720 case disaster strikes. Injury wise, that's the one area of 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:35.800 being wide receiver centric you want to make sure that 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.440 you've covered every way you can possibly cover it. 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:41.200 Let's move the fifth round draft pick, Chase Brown, the 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.920 running back out of Illinois. He's not huge, but he 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:48.240 tested well a four four three forty a forty inch vertical, 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:51.880 which is outstanding ten foot seven inch broad jump. That's 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:55.080 terrific as well highly productive at Illinois, ran for more 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:58.360 than sixteen hundred yards last year, and I was stunned 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:02.360 lap when I saw his work life. He averaged more 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:06.280 than twenty seven carries a game, with a high of 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:10.280 forty one. So Illinois just kept feeding him the ball. 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:12.680 A total of three hundred and twenty eight rushes last 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:16.159 year plus twenty seven catches, you know, and and. 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:18.119 The knock on him his ball security. 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.800 He had five fumbles. Well, that's a lot of handling 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.680 in the football. I mean, I'm not saying that five 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:28.040 fumbles isn't something to be concerned about. He's going to 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:31.000 have to work on, like he talked about, keeping the 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:34.639 ball higher and tighter on his body, making sure that 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:36.840 he doesn't lose that football when you're touching it. 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:37.640 As much as he. 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:42.359 Is, Man's that's a that's a low percentage of you know, 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:45.800 not having ball security when you consider the significance of 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:48.240 the number of times he had the ball in his hands. 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:51.760 I mean, he was he was a work horse to 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:55.600 say the least, and he's he's got you know, a 0:17:55.600 --> 0:18:00.320 low center gravity contact balance. He'd let I think he 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.480 was amongst the league leaders, if not leading the country, 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:09.200 in rushes between ten and fifteen yards. So that's significant. 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:11.720 You know, you're not necessarily going to the house. 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:13.800 You move the chains, you. 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:17.359 Know, and when you move the chains on one carry, 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.200 I guess the offensive lineman is just pumped up a 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:24.080 little bit. It gets the defense excited. You know, your 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.880 ball controlling people's not three yards in a cloud of dust. 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:30.320 I mean you're chunking them when you're carrying the football 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:33.840 for ten to fifteen yards a pop like that. So yeah, 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:39.000 he's a very very interesting, interesting pickup for sure. I 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.560 think he's going to be a good addition. He brings 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:44.200 something a little bit different to the running back room 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:46.560 and it's going to be interesting to see that competition. 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:50.320 I think everybody figured the Bengals would draft at least 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:52.879 one running back. Well they didn't take one until the 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:57.080 fifth round. And as accomplished as Chase Brown was at Illinois, 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.480 Zach Taylor made it abundantly clear in his remark after 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:03.960 the draft that Joe Mixon is still the number one 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:05.920 back on this team. 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:09.240 Absolutely, And uh, you know the thing is Joe. 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:14.359 Mixon, He's He's proven himself over over the test of 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:18.240 time and what you have to do as a running 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:20.720 back in this offense, you have to be able to catch. 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:21.480 The football as well. 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:25.560 He wasn't asked to do that much at Illinois, and 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:29.240 he definitely is his self admittedly, and he needs to 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:31.560 work on his blitz pick up. So you know, you 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:34.440 don't want to be in a situation out there when 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.520 you're out on the football field as a running back. 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:40.320 Defensive coordinators and defensive players, No, they're not throwing the 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:43.840 football because this dude can't pass protect. You know, it's 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:46.240 every time he's out on the football field, if if 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:48.600 if you know, it's a it's a run play. I 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:50.960 mean that that's not that's not the greatest thing in 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:52.840 the world. So he's going to have to work on 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:55.720 the blitz pick up, make sure that he's got everything 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.040 down in terms of being able to run the route, 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:01.600 secure the football in the past game, catch ball, and 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:05.080 I provide in all around back. You know, they can 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:07.760 perform equally well in the in the running game in 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:11.160 the passing attack, because certainly don't want to be one dimensional. 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:14.800 If the Bengals are able to re sign Joe Burrow 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.400 or extend Joe Burrow, and extend t Higgins and extend 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:21.280 Logan Wilson like they would like to. Many people have 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:24.480 assumed at that point they can't afford Joe Mixon at 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:27.080 his current price and would have to ask him to 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:30.320 take a pay cut. I'm thinking Joe Mixon just gained 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:32.240 a little leverage by the fact that they did not 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:34.400 add a running back until round five. 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:36.320 Am I wrong? No? 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:39.399 I think, you know, I think that that Joe Mixon 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:42.480 and the coaching staff and the organization are still on 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:43.439 very good terms. 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:46.000 You know, there's there's there's no doubt about that. 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:49.280 But with that said, I think they can absorb that 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:53.240 salary as of right now, But depending on what contracts 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:56.760 are done in the next two to four weeks. 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:57.879 That could change quickly. 0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:02.359