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Speaker 1: I listen to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are haunt.

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Speaker 2: The most exciting thing about our life, like the flowers,

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Speaker 2: is how much diversity there is in everything. We should

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Speaker 2: be grateful for the breath of humanity and appreciate how

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Speaker 2: precious and intrinsically valuable each of us is. It is

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Speaker 2: our unique qualities that make us completely irreplaceable as black folks.

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Speaker 2: We need to bring special awareness to the damaging legacy

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Speaker 2: of separation and false distinctions. The divisions are products of

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Speaker 2: a long history of experiences. The way we have been

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Speaker 2: treated and seen others treated because of their heritage or

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Speaker 2: looks are deeply ingrained in us. Unfortunately, we have learned

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Speaker 2: a habit of passing that negative history on. We seem

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Speaker 2: prone to dividing ourselves into increasingly smaller subgroups.

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Speaker 3: It is the creation of these.

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Speaker 2: Divisions amongst ourselves that causes us the most pain within

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Speaker 2: our community. It's as if it isn't bad enough already

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Speaker 2: that we are a fact fraction of a greater population

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Speaker 3: Times been hostile towards us.

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Speaker 2: We proceed to further divide ourselves into groups according to

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Speaker 2: what the part of the world our ancestors come from,

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Speaker 2: you're considered different depending on whether you're of Latin, Caribbean

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Speaker 2: or African descent. Those groups divide themselves further. The Caribbean

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Speaker 2: descended black folks are Jamaican, Beijing, Guyanese, Haitian, and Bahamian.

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Speaker 2: The Latinos and African descendants do the same. Physical traits

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Speaker 2: have always been the source of particularly painful to visions

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Speaker 2: amongst ourselves, directly related to the distinction made between black

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Speaker 2: Skin color is still a very harmful divide. Some of

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Speaker 2: come in warm, reddish hues and bright ferotones that come

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Speaker 2: some called redbone and high yellow. Contrary to the belief

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Speaker 2: From the time that white slave owners divided us into

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Speaker 2: skin color to be the Great Black Divide. Hey, welcome

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Speaker 2: to the Blackout this podcast. I'm your host, Rod, joined

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Speaker 2: us always by my co host, and we're live on

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Speaker 2: the Saturday, ready to do some podcast and can find

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Speaker 2: us on Spotify. And today's a feedback episode, so we

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Speaker 2: will be getting to all the feedback that y'all left

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Speaker 2: us over the past week or so. Thank you to

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Speaker 2: everybody took the time out to do that. I know

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Speaker 2: it's the holiday season and it is upon us. The

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Speaker 2: official weapon of the show is in the Unofficial Sport

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Speaker 2: and bullet Ball Extreme and Today's excerpts from Being Black

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Speaker 2: by Angel Kyoto Williams, And in this chapter she was

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Speaker 2: talking specifically to black people about some black shit, about

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Speaker 2: how we have divisions amongst ourselves and you know, part

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Speaker 2: of this Buddhism and Zen and all the stuff that

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Speaker 2: she talks about is this this feeling of like oneness,

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Speaker 2: this feeling of wholeness, this feeling of seeing each other.

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Speaker 3: You are every person, every person is is you.

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Speaker 2: And if you have if you don't have that relationship

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Speaker 3: Much of this stuff was done to us as black people.

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Speaker 2: But we have also passed on a lot of the

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Speaker 2: belief system of we're going to buy into these things

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Speaker 3: Being that they weren't you know, born in America.

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Speaker 4: As uh as from what their what their their the

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Speaker 2: Black, which is just the it's just the Ados argument.

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Speaker 2: It's just they've just remixed it and put it there.

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Speaker 2: But it's essentially what those people have been making. I

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Speaker 2: There's nothing for us to to to relate to in

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Speaker 3: This is not trying to erase our heritage.

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Speaker 2: It's not saying that there's not a difference between Jamaicans

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Speaker 2: And this is why we are different from each other

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Speaker 3: It's why I don't participate in diaspora wars.

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Speaker 2: I don't really get too involved in the colorism debate

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Speaker 2: And I and you, you know, you pick up on

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Speaker 2: for the one million time on Clubhouse about African Americans

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Speaker 3: What has anyone solved anything yet? Is it fixed? Is

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Speaker 2: To be at least my forty two years on this

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it because I said, Okay, this is what

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Speaker 3: Like, you just came from this great situation.

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Speaker 1: Not the same agreed and I think, and I think

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Speaker 5: You know, we're all in the black group, so we

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Speaker 1: I don't mind that at all, But when you start

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Speaker 5: And instead of because a lot.

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Speaker 5: It can't get passed.

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Speaker 1: Because years ago, a lot of the divisions that we

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Speaker 5: We all were niggas. We all had to go to

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Speaker 2: I think it's interesting because everything has already existed, the

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Speaker 2: it was like, it don't matter if you're African, doesn't

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Speaker 2: And there is like a weird I don't even know

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Speaker 2: the right word is unity. But there's like we have

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Speaker 2: You know? This thing where I think the main thing

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Speaker 2: Now it's validated because we've been fucked with, but a

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Speaker 2: lot of our insecurity is about not wanting to be

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Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna say America, but I think whiteness. Yes,

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Speaker 2: you're being programmed to think, it's easy to buy into it,

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Speaker 2: what if they heard about us? They probably heard a

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Speaker 2: bunch of white propaganda about how everything that hasn't worked

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Speaker 2: Hopefully you're like me, Hopefully you're trying to unwork this

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Speaker 5: Not a lot of talking.

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Speaker 1: There's not a lot of communicating, there's not a lot

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Speaker 5: They are actually not designed to get along.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's and it's and it happens in other areas.

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Speaker 2: As American black people, it happens with our classism. We

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Speaker 2: And that's such a horrible starting point. It doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: But that being said, that's my experience.

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Speaker 2: Well, it could take a while to unlearn that kind

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Speaker 2: But here's the other part that we don't talk about

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Speaker 3: You don't require proof. You immediately get defensive.

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Speaker 3: You know? And that shit was real. I know it

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Speaker 2: Colliding with all kinds of black folks, what are you

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Speaker 3: And or you know, like they like they still want

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Speaker 2: Or you get mad at someone dark skinned and all

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Speaker 2: And that's what this chapter, you know, that's what that

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Speaker 5: Yes, And also.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of anti blackness that I've had,

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what it is, they don't have to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, that's what you said. You said they

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Speaker 2: I'm saying they don't put in an effort to learn it.

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Speaker 2: None of us do. That's how fucked up it is.

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Speaker 2: That's why we just it's like learning, we don't have

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Speaker 2: And so if you think you're not biased, you look

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Speaker 3: I just I've never had to confront it.

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Speaker 2: Right, So I say, even the anti blackness that were learning,

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Speaker 3: And like you will get you got this.

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Speaker 2: Everywhere every time every time you watch the movie, every time.

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Speaker 2: You watch cartoons, every time you read a book. Every

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Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying, So why would I have

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Speaker 2: you have to put in more effort to earn learn

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Speaker 3: That's what I was saying.

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Speaker 5: Yes you do, and I sayd that wrong?

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Speaker 3: And no you're not, You're not wrong.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just I was just throwing it out

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, I understand what you said.

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Speaker 1: But what But I what I meant to say, the

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Speaker 1: They put so much effort into arguing and debating and.

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Speaker 3: All that shit.

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Speaker 1: If they spent the amount of effort that they spent

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Speaker 5: If you spend that much time unlearning.

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Speaker 1: The world would be a better place and we all

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Speaker 1: would have more compassion for each other. The same requirement

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Speaker 1: that we ask for white people to do towards us,

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Speaker 1: we need to do it towards each other. I've never

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Speaker 1: understood that. It's amazing how black people have these demands

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Speaker 1: on white people.

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Speaker 5: Don't learn this. White people don't learn that. White people

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Speaker 5: teach yourself you constantly.

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Speaker 1: You hear that all the time because we understand that perspective.

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Speaker 1: But when it comes to the interer perspective of us

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Speaker 1: against each other, for some reason, we have a blind

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Speaker 1: eye to that as a collective, and we act like

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Speaker 1: it's okay because it's black, but it's not okay. And

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Speaker 1: that's some things that we need to learn too, because

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Speaker 1: guess what if we unlearn those things too, we would

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Speaker 1: have more compassion towards white people. And the thing is, yes,

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Speaker 1: what they did was fucked up and all that, I understand,

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Speaker 1: but you would look at them as human beings and

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Speaker 1: understand that it's a system that has designed them.

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Speaker 5: To be this way. Yes, you still need to hold

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Speaker 5: them accountable. Yes you still need to tell them the shit.

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Speaker 1: They did is wrong, But at the same time, I

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Speaker 1: can tell you you're wrong and still have some stimilus

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Speaker 1: of compassion. And that's why niggas big on lie mad

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Speaker 1: all the time, and the first time somebody white do something,

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Speaker 1: they're rather to burn that whole motherfucker down because they

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Speaker 1: have no compassion in their hearts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, yeah, I think.

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Speaker 2: I think all of that is true, and I think

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Speaker 2: trying to hold on to it is the effort that

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Speaker 2: people have.

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Speaker 3: It's trying to hold on to.

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Speaker 2: The the the shit they've learned, the anti blackness they've learned,

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Speaker 2: and whatnot.

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Speaker 3: And I do think on a bigger level.

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Speaker 2: It does come down to I mean, I hate to

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Speaker 2: inject whiteness into this discussion in that way. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: on a bigger level, it does come down to compassion

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Speaker 2: for individuals in order to one for them to unlearn

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Speaker 2: it and in order for them to be brought into

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Speaker 2: a fold that is gonna be a community that fights

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Speaker 2: against this shit, because I don't think you can build

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Speaker 2: community while also trying to ostracize folks. And I don't

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Speaker 2: think you build community by trying to essentially recreate what

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Speaker 2: whiteness has done but just flip it on the blackness,

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Speaker 2: which is what a lot of this ados shit kind

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Speaker 2: of reminds me of. It's this idea of like, we'll

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Speaker 2: use the same methods, but a black person will be

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Speaker 2: in charge. And to me, I'm like that that doesn't

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Speaker 2: necessarily appeal to me. If the mentality is still one

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Speaker 2: of ostracization, bully and domination all that stuff, then I'm like,

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Speaker 2: what was the point? Because because because the most because

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Speaker 2: also I don't believe that will ever come to pass, right.

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Speaker 1: And it's one of those things where for a lot

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Speaker 1: of black people, particularly if you look at the hierarchy

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Speaker 1: of black it's a lot of black men they want

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Speaker 1: to be white men, and you know, they like, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we want what white men have, so we can turn

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Speaker 1: around and use that same oppression towards the people with

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Speaker 1: underneath us, Like you want that same structure. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't see that as equality. I don't see treated

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Speaker 1: them like they treat us as equality.

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Speaker 5: But a lot of black people do.

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Speaker 1: And the thing is, nobody asks themselves, dude, what we

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Speaker 1: need to be better?

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Speaker 5: You know, we need to be better? And I don't know,

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Speaker 5: a lot of people reject that.

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Speaker 3: Why do we need to be better?

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Speaker 5: Why do we need to be the bad bad?

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Speaker 1: And I understand that, But the thing is, if they

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Speaker 1: would have did the right thing in the first place,

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Speaker 1: we would not be here to get there and then

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Speaker 1: turn around do the same thing.

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Speaker 5: What are we accomplishing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I mean, I don't think it's exactly

513
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Speaker 2: the same thing now, and I think the protections that

514
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Speaker 2: black people have in those situations are more about recognizing

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Speaker 2: the history and protecting yourselves.

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Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think it's the same thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they enslaved people, and shit, you know, I

518
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Speaker 2: think there's a there's a there's a fine line between

519
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Speaker 2: it where it's like I'm doing this to I don't

520
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Speaker 2: want to be like you. But at the same time,

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Speaker 2: I don't necessarily want to just like act like you

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Speaker 2: didn't do what you did almost or did, or act

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Speaker 2: like we don't need some some rules in place to

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Speaker 2: keep you from acting up because y'all niggas have acted

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Speaker 2: up in the past.

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Speaker 5: Right, And And that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I know, it's I know it's not equal, But the

528
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Speaker 1: thing is, you want the power to be able to oppress.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: And it's not like you said, it's it's not a

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Speaker 1: one for one, like like a one for one ratio

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Speaker 1: type of thing. But the thing is people seek that power.

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Speaker 1: And it's a problem with people seeking that power to

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Speaker 1: seize it to turn around and do the same thing

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Speaker 1: that was done to them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely agree with that. I think that's a

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Speaker 2: big problem. But yeah, I just I think if we

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Speaker 2: didn't concentrate so much on those divisions amongst ourselves, we

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Speaker 2: would have more.

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Speaker 3: More unity, man, and be welcoming more more black experiences, because.

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Speaker 2: We're all hurt, man, and we're all we're all very

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Speaker 2: worried that the net that we're all worried that the

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Speaker 2: next person is going to hurt us again somehow, whether

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Speaker 2: it be another black person who's different than us, or

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Speaker 2: there be white people, whether we're all worried you know,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna be harmed. And it does make us fallse

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Speaker 2: form smaller and smaller and smaller community. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, while it can be good to have places

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Speaker 2: that are you know, that put you first and make

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Speaker 2: you feel like your experience is seen, you know, it

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Speaker 2: can also be a little bit dangerous because it creates

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Speaker 2: other different type of challenges.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot of this, like I said, stems

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Speaker 1: into how we view people and how we interact with people.

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Speaker 1: A lot of it stems stems from from this, like

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Speaker 1: you said, making a circle smaller and smaller and smaller

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Speaker 1: and smaller and so small until you begin to reject

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Speaker 1: anything that doesn't look, act, speak, or talk like you.

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Speaker 5: And that is a problem.

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Speaker 3: Let's get into the feedback.

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Speaker 2: We had five episodes this week. Feedback show was language games,

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Speaker 2: no comments, but we did have a poll and the

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Speaker 2: poll had some comments. Okay, did your family accurately pass

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Speaker 2: on pass down recipes?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: Or what recipes we don't cook?

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Speaker 2: Karen, No, No. Seventy one percent of people, You're not alone.

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Speaker 2: Seventy percent of people parents did not pass their family

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Speaker 2: did not pass down recipes accurately. And the thing is,

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Speaker 2: because of the pandemic, I didn't really get to sit

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Speaker 2: down with my mom because my goal and hopefully before

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Speaker 2: the after the pandemic ends, I'll get to see her again.

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Speaker 2: My goal is to actually sit down with her.

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Speaker 1: And I ask her how what did the ingredients, go

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Speaker 1: buy them and go over to her house and make

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Speaker 1: and have her tell me how to make them, and

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Speaker 1: actually measure the stuff out and write the ingredients down

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Speaker 1: and things like that, so I can kind of duplicate

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Speaker 1: the duplicated so that when she passes a lot of

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Speaker 1: these recipes don't die, particularly her potato salad, her dressing,

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Speaker 1: two of the biggest things. I already know how to

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Speaker 1: make my debbies macaroni cheese because she had shared that recipe.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, there's some people where you go, I actually

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Speaker 1: want to learn this recipe, which is gonna be difficult

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Speaker 1: because my mama is a pinch of this, a toe

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Speaker 1: nailed list or thumb nail and you be like mama

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Speaker 1: them not no measurement.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two percent said yes, and seven percent said what

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Speaker 2: recipes we don't cook. Ms Barr said, my mom passed

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Speaker 2: away in twenty thirteen, and myself and my sisters found

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Speaker 2: her notebooks full of recipes.

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Speaker 3: We were looking for her poundcake recipe.

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Speaker 2: And sadly we discovered that she took that gym with

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Speaker 2: her to this day, seven years later, my sisters think

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Speaker 2: I have the notebook with that recipe, and I look

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Speaker 2: at them. I'm looking at them like they are holding out. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what if y'all got the secret recipe?

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Speaker 3: That would be crazy, Like.

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Speaker 2: You go to their house and they be like, don't

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Speaker 2: eat that poundcake. This tastes like Mama poundcake.

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Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no, that's a coincidence. I

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Speaker 3: bought that from the store.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, what I realized is sometimes some

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Speaker 1: of the stuff that we love, we think is stop seeking.

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Speaker 1: Some of that stuff come from the side of a

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Speaker 1: box and they just made it.

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Speaker 5: Everybody love it, but they ain't.

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Speaker 2: Gonna tell nobody could be Blue Way Rodder says, you

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Speaker 2: will stop, uh with that disrespect to Rvey's right now.

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Speaker 2: Be sure you seeing me all them Rvey's gift cards,

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Speaker 2: because my black ass will use them. On another note,

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Speaker 2: where are the show notes in Spotify? I mean they

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Speaker 2: on the episodes, I believe.

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Speaker 3: Let me look in there right now. Yeah, I mean

660
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Speaker 3: there's still show notes for everything.

661
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Speaker 1: Uh.

662
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: You just go to the to the podcast and you

663
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Speaker 2: click on you can go to episodes under podcast or

664
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Speaker 2: you can go to the actual show and uh, yeah,

665
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Speaker 2: the notes will show up. I don't know, Yeah, I

666
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 2: don't know what what's Uh is this something different about

667
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Speaker 2: our show then than not now?

668
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Speaker 3: I'm now I'm literally on the app.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because yeah, the show notes is still there because

670
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Speaker 1: you can touch it and they have the show notes.

671
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: And also if it continues though, it says see more

672
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Speaker 1: and if you click on the se more, it'll break down.

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Speaker 2: The Yeah, and the links are in there and everything

674
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Speaker 2: Amazon wish list, So the show notes are in the

675
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Speaker 2: description on on.

676
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Speaker 3: Spotify, man click around.

677
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Speaker 2: Doug B says, I'm still trying to figure and if

678
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Speaker 2: you really really really can't figure out Spotify, you can

679
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: always go to our website, the Blackout Tess dot com

680
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: and the show notes of that too, but they are

681
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: in the Spotify app.

682
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 3: So, Doug B says, I'm.

683
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Speaker 2: Still trying to figure out how much ingredient is you'll

684
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Speaker 2: know or just enough or but but it's too much.

685
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll never figure that out.

686
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 5: You'll never figure it out.

687
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: And what I've realized for a lot of cooks, just

688
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: watching a lot of cooks, particularly how my mom and

689
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: them cook, they actually preparing taste. In preparing taste, like

690
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: they're constantly tasting their food. So because there are people

691
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: that cook and they don't taste their food. But if

692
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: you don't taste your food, you don't know how what

693
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: it's supposed to taste a certain period of time. And

694
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Speaker 1: so I just kind of learned they can taste it,

695
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: but like anymore this and they know it almost instantly

696
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Speaker 1: because they've made it so many times.

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Speaker 3: Well.

698
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Speaker 2: Also, the other thing you have to realize, and this

699
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 2: is something I realize cooking, is you never really make

700
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Speaker 2: the same meal twice in you m hm, you know,

701
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Speaker 2: so every time you make it, it's gonna be a

702
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Speaker 2: little bit different.

703
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Speaker 3: Let's see. Eve says.

704
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Speaker 2: I never saw my grandmother use a recipe and measure

705
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Speaker 2: anything out. My mom was the same way, and I

706
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: just learned the experiment and taste. So when I have

707
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: a get together people ask me for a recipe, I

708
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: can't really write down a recipe because I don't use them.

709
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: And when I estimate them out of ingredients I use,

710
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: they'll say it doesn't taste the same as mine. I

711
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: guess I have. I have become that black auntie. Yeah,

712
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 2: I can understand that. I know the other day I

713
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: made some ribs in the crackpot air friar express thing delous,

714
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Speaker 2: and I literally made them kind of off the top

715
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Speaker 2: of my head, like I didn't have a recipe, you know,

716
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Speaker 2: I use I did. I did a rub on them,

717
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: you know. I did use you know, salt pepper creole

718
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: seasoning that Karen got from the spice whatever they're called,

719
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Speaker 2: the spice sweet, and then I put like, you know,

720
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Speaker 2: some like you know, a couple of other ingredients on

721
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Speaker 2: the rub, garlic and stuff like that, and then I

722
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Speaker 2: put them in a pressure cooker part of the crockpot

723
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Speaker 2: for like thirty minutes, and I put a whole bunch

724
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Speaker 2: of like barbecue sauce in there with them and rubbed

725
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: it all over it. And that was after I seared

726
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Speaker 2: it in the cast iron scalet for a couple of

727
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Speaker 2: minutes each side. Then after I did that part the

728
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Speaker 2: pressure cooker, I took it off and I air fried

729
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 2: them for like ten minutes, and then I took them

730
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: out and they was falling off the bone, you know,

731
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Speaker 2: So they had yeah, And so I couldn't tell you,

732
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Speaker 2: technically the instructions to do that precisely, and I and

733
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Speaker 2: then the other thing I liked about it was unlike

734
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Speaker 2: my other real recipe where it takes you know, a

735
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Speaker 2: couple of days actually, but where I had to cook

736
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Speaker 2: like a big ass long pan of ribs.

737
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Speaker 3: I cooked foux ribs.

738
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Speaker 2: That's it, like so, and I wasn't sure it would work,

739
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: you know. And that's the thing I think with cooking

740
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Speaker 2: a lot of times.

741
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Speaker 3: It is trying error.

742
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: You know some things that will work, you know what,

743
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: some general rules are like this should do it.

744
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Speaker 3: The main thing I want to do is make sure

745
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: my food is done.

746
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Speaker 2: When it comes to meat everything else, I just want

747
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: to make sure it's tasty. And I think, yeah, maybe

748
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: that is what happens. Maybe that's what happened with our ancestors,

749
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Speaker 2: and shit, they just was like, look, I just know

750
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Speaker 2: you put a pot roast in there for a couple

751
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Speaker 2: of hours, and I just keep checking it and making

752
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Speaker 2: sure it's writing boom yeah.

753
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Speaker 5: When I see it get you know. And a lot

754
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Speaker 5: of times depend on the food.

755
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Speaker 1: A lot of times people can know by by touching,

756
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: people can know by sight, people can know by smell,

757
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: like what levels it is. And that's like something that

758
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: you have to be trained because sometimes even if somebody

759
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Speaker 1: gives you the recipe the exact way they did it,

760
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: because you're not them, it's not going to be the same.

761
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Speaker 5: Like because, like you said, because everybody's different.

762
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: Every recipe is different. Kim Doc says. I asked my

763
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Speaker 2: mom how does she seizon me? And she said, well,

764
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Speaker 2: you quote a quote will get to get to know

765
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Speaker 2: your hand.

766
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Speaker 3: When you're seasoned.

767
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes something takes over when you're shaking that tells you

768
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Speaker 2: that it's just right, or you add a little bit

769
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 2: too much salt. I hung up, thinking, huh, that's simply

770
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Speaker 2: no help. Turns out she's absolutely right. I instinctively know

771
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: when to stop. There's no rhyme or reason, just a feeling.

772
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: And my food has been pretty sensational in the panthelones,

773
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Speaker 2: so I think her for the super vague terror. Coward

774
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Speaker 2: reader asked advice on seasoning. I'll look forward to confusing

775
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Speaker 2: future generations and not passing our recipes.

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Speaker 1: Just something from experience of cooking, because yeah, on some

777
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: things I can tell too. I'm like, oh, that's too

778
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: much salt, Like you can instantly tell gonna be too salty.

779
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 5: How do I correct this?

780
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 3: Well? The other thing too, is you know sometimes you

781
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 3: learn because you fucked it up.

782
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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, it's.

783
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Speaker 3: Like I ate this shit. It gave me a headache.

784
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 3: That was clearly too much salt.

785
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: Next time, I'm gonna dill it down. Episode two to

786
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 2: three seven T two hundred and thirty seven. We had

787
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: a guest. We had djil I mean for fun all

788
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: nerds on the podcast, and I thought we had a

789
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 2: great discussion.

790
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 3: I enjoyed talking to Ben cool dude. We got three

791
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Speaker 3: comments and says love this episode. But as an old.

792
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Speaker 2: Person who doesn't know anyone when the music, when the

793
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: kids start talking about the new music, I was lost

794
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 2: at the end when you listed all the songs on

795
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Speaker 2: your Spotify playlist. I got a few names on my

796
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 2: list now so I can expand my horizons. I agree

797
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Speaker 2: that we that we do have to put an effort

798
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 2: into learning new things as we mature. Familiarity can fool

799
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: you into believing that you're still on on top of

800
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: your game, and the streaming services can box you into

801
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 2: a set type of music. If you use those personalized

802
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 2: playlists that they offer right now, I would swear it

803
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: was still the late nineteen nineties from the music they

804
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: keep playing, but I'm about to fix that.

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00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 3: Thanks.

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00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: And also on most apps I know Spotify I have it,

807
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: they'll have like new music, new genres, new artists, like

808
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: most of the music apps, now, if you search for them,

809
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: we'll be like, hey, based off of the music that

810
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: you like, here are some new artists that kind of

811
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: hit that genre. So that the tools are out there,

812
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: is are you willing to search for them.

813
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: One of the things in Spotify Rap that they have

814
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: is the songs that you missed in twenty twenty and

815
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: it'll tell you so I listened to that for some

816
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 2: new songs. Another thing that I do is check out

817
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: the new albums every week when there's like, hey, here's

818
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: the new albums, I'll go check it out and see

819
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 2: what dropped.

820
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 3: And that's one of the things too.

821
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: I asked on our social media, on our Twitter, Facebook

822
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 2: and Instagram pages, I asked the audience, Hey, what were

823
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 2: your favorite what was your favorite album of twenty twenty?

824
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: Like what did you listen to? And one of the

825
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: things I noticed is, because you know we have we

826
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: skew a little bit older with our fan base. You're

827
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: talking about people that are probably you know, late thirties,

828
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 2: early forties for the most part, and so most of them.

829
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 2: What I noticed in the listening to have is they're

830
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: listening to artists that they've listened to their entire lives,

831
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 2: you know, you know, I saw a lot of you know,

832
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 2: for me, I think the album I've loved the most

833
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: last this year was Black Thought. For other people Nas

834
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: already the Rugged Man. You know, people they kind of

835
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: either came up with or this is like the third

836
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: or fourth of our Tianna Taylor, Uh, you know, stuff

837
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: like that.

838
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 3: I noticed.

839
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 2: And there weren't a lot of like young or newish artists.

840
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 2: And I don't think one person listed the Baby. Nobody

841
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 2: listed Roddy Rich, you know, like it was all artists

842
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: who had three, four or five projects, because I think

843
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: you get to a certain age, you just stopped branching

844
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: out listening to new ship Nobody. I think a couple

845
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 2: of people may have brought I think someone brought up Chica.

846
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 2: I think that's how you certain name. Uh, someone brought

847
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 2: up Flow Milly.

848
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 3: I want to.

849
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: Say someone brought up Meg, you know, but just for

850
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: the most part, you know, yeah, for the most part,

851
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 2: you know, this is kind of like this person was

852
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: hot in the nineties. I'm listening to Brandy. You know,

853
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: Brandy got a new album. That's why I'm busting around.

854
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: Dropped the new album. That's what I'm listening to. And

855
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: I think that's why we end up so out of

856
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: touch from these kids and shit. And it's not that

857
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: the kids are necessarily rapping about anything new, but like

858
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: generational changes, like artists that can be more vulnerable and

859
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: more emotional, artists that are more politically active now or

860
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: less politically active, you know, artists, artists that being gender

861
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: and and all that stuff.

862
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: I think we miss out on that when we just go.

863
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep listening to Eric ber rockam you know,

864
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 2: also glad to hear a fellow Hestonian on the podcast.

865
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 2: It's a nice city with talented people around every corner.

866
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 2: Hope the black Out tells gets to visit one day. Hopefully,

867
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Speaker 2: Sopha King said, shot out to DJ ben Imean spitting

868
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: that truth about shang Chy that Nigga ain't never lied.

869
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: The only kind of movie I like more than superhero

870
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: movie is Kume foud Flix and Shangchy Finn to be

871
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 2: a whole ass superhero kung Fu.

872
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 3: Flick k wait Me neither same me. Neither, Eve says.

873
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: I find that I don't critique black content as harshly

874
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: as I do white content, only because we're not at

875
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 2: a point where black content creators are allowed to say

876
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: fuck ups as their white counterparts. Although if you go

877
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: down a rabbit Netflix rabbit hole far enough you will

878
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: find some doodoo black films. Still I don't give them

879
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: thumbs down. I just won't rate them at all. But

880
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 2: let a white film suck, and I will get that

881
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: thing a thumbs down before the movie is over.

882
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people are like that.

883
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of people used to be

884
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 2: like that. I wonder now if it's to stay where,

885
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: because we're a line all the time, and a lot

886
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,479
Speaker 2: of the online community is about complaining. If less people

887
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: are like that now, if they're like, no, I'm a

888
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: shit on this thing because I watched it and I

889
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 2: deserve to shit on it and y'all took my time

890
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: or whatever, as opposed to feeling a little more protect

891
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: where it was like, yeah, I may not have enjoyed this,

892
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 2: it may not have been for me, but I don't

893
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 2: really have to tell nobody.

894
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,959
Speaker 3: Well, now we're telling everybody everything all the time.

895
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: So it's like the days of like a black thing

896
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: not being that good and privacy is over. It's like

897
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 2: we I can't wait to run to the internet and

898
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: be like, you know what, I just watched my rangees,

899
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: I'll just watch this movie and let me tell you something.

900
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: This performance by this person wasn't that good? Can we

901
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: finally discuss it and shit like that? And it's like, oh,

902
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: this is this is We're now in the day and

903
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: age of finding the negative thing.

904
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and I agree.

905
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: I think more people on that end in the protection

906
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: but there are some people that are still in that

907
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: protection group.

908
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: Of course, of course there's some people in every group.

909
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 3: Do you take it easier when critiquing black content? Yes

910
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 3: or no?

911
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: Thirty nine percent of people say, wait, Camen, what do

912
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: you say.

913
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie. Yes, depend on what it is.

914
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, I definitely do. Thirty nine percent say yes,

915
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 2: And I'm not ashamed of that.

916
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 3: I don't.

917
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: I don't know why the fuck black people are supposed

918
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: to be ashamed of this. I like one of the

919
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 2: biggest tricks that white people pulled on us is.

920
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 3: This idea that we need to be like them, and.

921
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: The way they do shit in order to be seen

922
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: as equal or valid. I don't believe in that shit

923
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,959
Speaker 2: at all. A perfect example is like when it comes

924
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: to politics, like black people that are either socialists or

925
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: they kind of like, you know, want to be in

926
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: that that group with white folks who are like, I'm

927
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: anti government, I'm anti this, And I'm like, that's a

928
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: huge fucking trick because what black people deal with on

929
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: our side and what y'all are talking about so different

930
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 2: you see it from you know, I hate to call

931
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: these these people out, but you know the black people

932
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 2: who's anti capitalism is I hate Beyonce and I hate

933
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: jay Z and I hate Oprah.

934
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 3: I'm always like always look down on them in a

935
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 3: way like I always do. I always look like, damn,

936
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 3: they fooled you. They got you. That's how they get you.

937
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 3: They got you. Think they got you.

938
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: Thinking Oprah is the same as Nike having motherfuckers manufacturer

939
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: shit like you like that is you? Now you you

940
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: somewhere thinking equality is Look at me, white people. I

941
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: am just as un I am just as quick to

942
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,479
Speaker 2: call out black people. I'll call out Barack Obama and

943
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: as quick as I would call out Donald Trump. And

944
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 2: I'm like one of those people you should be calling

945
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 2: out faster.

946
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

947
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: I don't like if you have gotten tricked in it.

948
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 2: That's what equality is. I feel like you got tricked.

949
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a valid point of view, you know,

950
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 2: you know, And I think it's okay to say that,

951
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: to be like, look, this is not saying one of

952
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: these things is good or whatever, but it is saying

953
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: one of these things is fucking better than the other.

954
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 2: And I can acknowledge that I don't like. I don't

955
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: You're not gonna trick me into sabotaging myself. And I

956
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 2: think a lot of black critics of pop culture do

957
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: that too. They go, look at me, I shit on

958
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: the black thing, okay for the New York Times or

959
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal?

960
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 3: What I did that?

961
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: So whenever I say something I don't like something white,

962
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 2: you can't.

963
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 3: Just accuse me of being bought like who gives a fuck?

964
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 3: Who gives a fuck?

965
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 2: Like we You know why I'm not shitting on this

966
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 2: is because this person might not get an opportunity again,

967
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: because this fucking I'm gonna give them a benefit of

968
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 2: the doubt. Because the whole point of me being here

969
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: was that these people weren't getting a benefit of the

970
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: doubt from your ass right, and you was given a

971
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt. And you know what, that's not

972
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 2: gonna stop. You're gonna always give white people the benefit

973
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: of the doubt. They're gonna always get that third and

974
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: fourth chance to fuck up. Black people are not getting that.

975
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: And to me, if I'm gonna be here to somehow

976
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 2: add a different perspective to this equation, the perspective is

977
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: gonna be I'm gonna treat these black people a little

978
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 2: bit softer than y'all being that's it, like, like, it

979
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: doesn't mean I have to kate for everybody, a cover

980
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: for folks.

981
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't mean that.

982
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: But if it means like I gotta come in here

983
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 2: and be the heavy, I gotta come in here and

984
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: be the person that you quote.

985
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 3: So you can be like, I didn't like this black thing,

986
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: but it's okay. So and so said I didn't like

987
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 3: still like it they're black.

988
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to be that, like, don't give me

989
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 2: that job did because that's not what the fuck I'm

990
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: here for. So I think there's like a game of

991
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 2: foot that is always being played. And so you know

992
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: I do.

993
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: I am a little bit more careful with black shit.

994
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta be pretty bad for me to

995
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 2: be like, I don't really see no merit in this

996
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: black content.

997
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 3: Agreed, anyway, do you take it easy on black content?

998
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 3: Yes or no?

999
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 2: Thirty nine percent say yes, sixty one percent say no,

1000
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 2: they don't, and then zero votes for I only.

1001
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 3: Watch white shows.

1002
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 2: Kem Doc says, I'm often more impressed when content is

1003
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 2: black and yet also spectacular. I want more of the

1004
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: love craft to get spaced, to stretch our imaginations and consciousness.

1005
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 2: I find that the Tyler Perry's have flooded a small

1006
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 2: portion of the zone with some mediocre content that people love,

1007
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: which is wonderful for him in his casting, as Tom

1008
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 2: Cruise said, they feed a tremendous amount of people off content,

1009
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 2: whether we like it or clown it. So I'm a

1010
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 2: bit mad. So I'm I guess I'm a bit mad.

1011
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: But it also gives a way to the own, to

1012
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 2: the own network, and they're Titan shows like Queen Sugar,

1013
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: green Leaf and Yonla and the host of interesting black

1014
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 2: lead reality shows.

1015
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 3: Yo, that's one thing you.

1016
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: Never that's a dirty little thing you never hear people

1017
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: talk about, but we don't get to some of this

1018
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: high art black shit without Tyler Perry, right, And you

1019
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 2: never really see people make that direct relationship and admit

1020
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: that because it's like they just think we were supposed

1021
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 2: to skip the step, whereas Tyler Perry showed that blackness

1022
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 2: could be very profitable and super serving blackness could be

1023
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 2: very profitable, and that put a lot of white people

1024
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: onto like, okay, so how do we get some of

1025
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 2: this money right now? Of course they don't understand our

1026
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 2: culture and stuff, and a lot of it they invested in.

1027
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 3: The backlash too Tyler Perry.

1028
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 2: But whatever, they still invested that money to get those

1029
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: things made, and we now have people whose names and

1030
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 2: all this shit has been made off of that investment.

1031
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: And I think people don't like to ever point out like,

1032
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: without Tyler Perry, we don't get that.

1033
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1034
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: And also you know some and not to beat to

1035
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: dead some of the stuff we talked about it before.

1036
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: Equality is us having bad shit too. Everything ain't got

1037
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: to be Oscar worthy winning theatrical chit. Sometimes people just

1038
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: wanting to watch whatever their shit is.

1039
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, when society progresses to a point where I feel

1040
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 2: like it's equal I'll feel more comfortable being like, yeah,

1041
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 2: this black shit is terrible or this shit is bad.

1042
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: I would feel more comfortable doing that if I felt

1043
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: like society was equal, But instead, a lot of times

1044
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: it feels like I'm just putting a nail in the

1045
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: coffin for black people, not just one creator, not just like, Okay,

1046
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: if this guy doesn't exist, they just don't get.

1047
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 3: A guy, right, you know what I mean?

1048
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,959
Speaker 2: And hopefully that day is coming to an end because

1049
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot more investment now, there's a

1050
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 2: lot more diversity. And now I'm at a point where

1051
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 2: what I do now is if I don't like something,

1052
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: I just avoid it.

1053
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 5: Agreed, Agreed.

1054
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: And that's the part of people being overserved, because you know,

1055
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,439
Speaker 1: there are people, just like Tyler Perry has his group

1056
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: of people that he overserved, there are people that goes.

1057
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 5: Well, what about the things that I like?

1058
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: And now they're starting to get fed too, which is

1059
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: a good thing, and that's a part of the equality.

1060
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: And so now not funny, you cannot give a fuck

1061
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: about Tyler Perry and watch the shit that you do

1062
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: versus when it was all kind of pumping out of him.

1063
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: That's why he got all the attention because people go

1064
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: with ain't nobody else now it's other people.

1065
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 5: What is people's excuse now for ragging him out?

1066
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: There's too many other people out there to go like

1067
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: the shit, the whatever it is out there, go like

1068
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: and enjoy that.

1069
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: So even if I'm not watching the have and have

1070
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 2: nots to prefer, this is us and all rise. I'm

1071
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: grateful for Tyler and also his audience that audiences that

1072
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 2: provide the ratings which give him legitimacy, and that translates

1073
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: over to shows that I love by the way.

1074
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 3: Of black and brown representation.

1075
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and not to mention that big ass studio he

1076
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: got with a film Black Panthers, Star Wars, and.

1077
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 3: Shit Like Anyway.

1078
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: Episode twenty two thirty eight Whites Only Church. We got

1079
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 2: three comments. Sean says, this episode, you discussed the biointech

1080
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 2: fires a vaccine Stasifa. You said, that is your immune

1081
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 2: system responding properly to the vaccine. It is important to

1082
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 2: note that the reason that reactions to mRNA vaccines are

1083
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: much more short lived than what one would experience with

1084
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: a typical vaccine is that they use mRNA to create

1085
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 2: proteins markers that from stars Cobe two viral spikes in

1086
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 2: your cells. This produces far malt to side effects than

1087
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 2: traditional vaccines. Currently, DNA and mRNA vaccines are becoming the

1088
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 2: norm and veterinarian vaccines because they are cheaper to mass produced,

1089
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: cause fewer amount of side effects, and do not cause

1090
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 2: secondary immune responses that decrease the efficacy of boosters.

1091
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 3: With the stars Kobe two.

1092
00:53:55,840 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 2: Natural immunity last on average six months, The ox for

1093
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 2: University as Prizenica vaccine is predicted to last our average

1094
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: twelve months. Data from the biolin Tech, Pfizer, and NIH

1095
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: Moderna vaccines longevity have not been released. To my knowledge,

1096
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 2: Boosters will likely be necessary for any of this first

1097
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 2: round of vaccines. Getting one of each vaccine will not

1098
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 2: extend the length of immunity. Furthermore, I know that was

1099
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 2: a joke, Shawna.

1100
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 3: You for real right now?

1101
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 2: Come on, man, this is a comedy show sometimes we make.

1102
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get all three vaccines. Furthermore, the violin

1103
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 2: Tech and NIH vaccines use mRNA to target spikes, while

1104
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: the Oxford University uses DNA to target the spikes. They

1105
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 2: will probably not increase you overall immunity while increasing the

1106
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 2: risk for side effects.

1107
00:54:54,080 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 3: Oh god, you're serious. DNA and mr N Roderick.

1108
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 2: DNA and mr NA vaccines also do not require a

1109
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 2: type of growth medium that sometimes causes allergic reactions. Mostly

1110
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 2: flu vaccines use eggs, which means that people with egg

1111
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 2: allergies could not get a flu shot. Thanks for your

1112
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 2: clear and accurate coverage of the SEAPOD. Just thought I

1113
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 2: could add a little clarification to help people feel a

1114
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: little less concerned about this new for human recipients type

1115
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 2: of vaccine. Getting a vaccine that completed stage three testing,

1116
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 2: it will certified, unlike the Russian vaccine, which is tested

1117
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 2: on seventy six people before approval. It's going to be

1118
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 2: safer than not getting a vaccine.

1119
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 3: Thanks Sean.

1120
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 2: I'll make sure not to take all of the vaccines.

1121
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 2: Eve says I had a white friend. I had a

1122
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,439
Speaker 2: white friend who was a choir director for her church,

1123
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 2: and she wrote me and my husband in the singing

1124
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 2: in the choir for a few sundays at her church.

1125
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 2: Let me tell you it was the stalest, joyless white

1126
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 2: experience I have ever had. It was like eating frogging books,

1127
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 2: like eating fried chicken with no seasoning.

1128
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 3: No I take it back.

1129
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 2: It was like eating a plain boiled chicken breast with

1130
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 2: no salt. Yes, we were out by noon, but damn

1131
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 2: it was born. I mean you do pay for I

1132
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 2: mean you'll be out by noon, but it'll feel like

1133
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 2: you was in there all day. I'll definitely give you

1134
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 2: that that.

1135
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: They don't even have an amm Zion Jash you know

1136
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: Amy Zion love them here books.

1137
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 5: Too, but it's a little different.

1138
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 2: Black church may be as long as fuck, but music

1139
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 2: is the music is better, The fashion is on point.

1140
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 2: The old Black Auntie Be's helped get through the long

1141
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 2: gas service. Whites could keep the seasonless church. You know

1142
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 2: what other group has a spicy church service, The Koreans.

1143
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 2: They seen gospel music just like us.

1144
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 3: I was blown away. What makes sense if you've seen

1145
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 3: K pop and K dramas and all that stuff.

1146
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 2: Kim Doc says, can't wait for doctor Joe Biden to

1147
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 2: be our first lady and reveal her jenda. I'm also

1148
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 2: glad that they won't immediately move into the White House.

1149
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 2: They need to spend several cleaning and fumigation teams into

1150
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 2: that bit to bust some SuDS. Bust some SuDS. That's

1151
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 2: an old lady saying, I love that.

1152
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 5: They're gonna be. They gonna be hand scubbing the floor.

1153
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 3: Still, get in there and bust some SuDS. That's what

1154
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 3: my dad used to say.

1155
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: Uh, COVID was all up and through here. The other day, Okay,

1156
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 2: it was don't go in there, go in there in

1157
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: the fucking has Matt suit.

1158
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 3: Have you ever accidentally went to a white church? Yes

1159
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 3: or no?

1160
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 2: Karen, Yes, me too, Yes, thirty two sixty eight percent

1161
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: saying no and says I'm Catholic. So most of the

1162
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 2: people that are white, unlest the church there are white

1163
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 2: unless the church is located a non white neighborhood or country.

1164
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 3: Why is it that most Catholic churches are white? Interesting?

1165
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 2: What is about Catholicism that you know? Because I mean,

1166
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 2: I would assume all this shit came from white people,

1167
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 2: you know, as far as like the the white Christian

1168
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: Jesus version of church in America, whether it be the

1169
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 2: Catholic version or the Protestant version of the Baptist version.

1170
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, Catholic church. I don't know, I just be

1171
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 3: like white people. That's they shit.

1172
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 2: MS barn say I'm Catholic. Therefore it's a whole ass

1173
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 2: white experience. At least mass starts. It ends on time

1174
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 2: and the name of the father, son, the hole.

1175
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 3: Spear, they men. She says.

1176
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 2: The only time I set foot in the church since

1177
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: childhood is for funerals or of family and friends. The

1178
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: only thing black folks gonna do is make sure a

1179
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,479
Speaker 2: black funeral is at a black church.

1180
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 3: Yep, we all gonna do that. That's one thing we

1181
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 3: will do. Big One says. I grew up in Minnesota

1182
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 3: and remember being Yeah, that is crazy.

1183
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 2: If you're a black person that at tended Catholic church,

1184
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: is it just understood you are going to the black

1185
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 2: funeral home and black church because.

1186
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 5: Your family that ain't Catholic gonna be like, we ain't

1187
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 5: going up in there. We're gonna give you a homegoing service.

1188
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: Even if your family is Catholic. I feel like, like,

1189
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 2: don't they don't. Don't you gotta take them up to emmy'sign.

1190
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 2: Come on, I feel like that's just the rule.

1191
00:58:58,800 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 5: You gotta roll them up to the back.

1192
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: Is it a non denominational Yeah, I don't think I've

1193
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: never thought about that before.

1194
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: But I don't think I've ever been to a black

1195
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 2: funeral that wasn't in a black church and black funeral

1196
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 2: home situation me either. Anyway, Big one Saince. I grew

1197
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 2: up in Minnesota and remember being taken to a few

1198
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 2: white churches. I thought Minnesota was just so white that

1199
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,959
Speaker 2: this happened. You're telling me it even happens down south. Wow,

1200
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 2: I mean, look, motherfucker's worshiped separately. That's I forget who

1201
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 2: said it, but it was some politician but they was

1202
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 2: talking about or maybe it's an activist.

1203
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 3: We said, the most segregated.

1204
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 2: Time in America is Sunday from ten am to like,

1205
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 2: you know one, like basically Sundays in church. Whether you're

1206
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 2: trying to force segregation, desegregation or whatever, you busting people in,

1207
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 2: you not, it don't matter because at the end of

1208
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 2: the day, when people get a choice, black people go

1209
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 2: one place, white people go another, which is fucked up

1210
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 2: because you know, the whole thing of our church supposed

1211
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,439
Speaker 2: to be togetherness and unity and community, and we still

1212
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 2: get in there and be like not today and this

1213
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 2: and the I'm not saying this fucked up equally. It's

1214
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 2: a history of black white people fucking violating the Black

1215
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 2: church and us not being safe.

1216
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 3: Yep.

1217
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 5: And I've been to. You know, churches that were mixing.

1218
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: Those are rare where you kind of it is like

1219
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: a rainbow coalition for people, those are rare.

1220
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 2: I feel like those happen more now than they used to.

1221
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 2: The non denominational stuff. I think with social media and

1222
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: all that stuff, I think it's changing. Cass always says,

1223
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 2: not until not only did I end up in a

1224
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,479
Speaker 2: white church accidentally, they were legit holding down a small

1225
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 2: spot in a black and brown neighborhood, but they had

1226
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 2: the nerve to have a two hour service. I felt hoodwin.

1227
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 2: What was interesting is I think two hours is short.

1228
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 2: Maybe it's because I'm from the South. Yeah, two hours

1229
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 2: is I'm the two hours standing on my head him

1230
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 2: Doc says on our next episode to twenty two thirty eight,

1231
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 2: this is your speaking, Kim Doc says. The fact that

1232
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 2: the pro life side, Republican side of arguments are for one,

1233
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 2: the death penalty. They're really going to ensure that more

1234
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 2: people are executed in the coming weeks than that been

1235
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 2: in a long time. Judges are callously denied states execution

1236
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 2: when whiteness witnesses are recanting it recanting.

1237
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know what's funny is if they left

1238
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 3: this shit.

1239
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 2: For Jaboti, he would probably go, yeah, we're gonna abstain,

1240
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 2: We're not gonna do the death penalty.

1241
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 3: And they know that.

1242
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they know that, so they wanted they want to

1243
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 2: kill these people on their watch. Two agreed guns and

1244
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 2: automatic weapons.

1245
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 3: Yep, they're not pro life on that. Three.

1246
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: Spread of the coronavirus through their patented and blatant disregard

1247
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 2: across the country.

1248
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 3: It's wild to me.

1249
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 2: And the fact that they win elections, uh, while protecting

1250
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 2: protecting interests of corporations and elites, while leaving their supporters

1251
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: and the rest of us starving, uh, the starving country

1252
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 2: to die, is really something, ain't it?

1253
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 3: Ain't it?

1254
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 2: The poe was, do you think porn hubbs should have

1255
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 2: deleted all verified all unverified content?

1256
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 3: Yes?

1257
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: Or no?

1258
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 3: Me?

1259
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 5: No, but I understand.

1260
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 3: Say yes.

1261
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 2: Only eight percent of people think they should not have

1262
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,919
Speaker 2: deleted the unverified content, Camen. Why should they have left

1263
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 2: the unverified content out there?

1264
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 5: And and I guess because it's but but maybe it's

1265
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 5: just me.

1266
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: When you go out there, it kind of it's almost

1267
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: like you have to rebuild, which I understand that, and

1268
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: they want to verify to be sure you're there because

1269
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: it's like, you have a problem, so you're going to

1270
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: erase everything so you can restart, so you can eliminate

1271
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: that problem.

1272
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 5: I understand that because.

1273
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: It basically you got too big for your breeches apparently,

1274
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: and it's hard to monitor all of this stuff, so

1275
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: I understand why.

1276
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 5: But you might have people who might want.

1277
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: To put stuff out there, and they might not want

1278
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: their name and all these other things attached to it.

1279
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: But at the same time, once you start getting into

1280
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: the subsections like revenge porn and child pornography and things

1281
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: like that, I completely understand, No, you do not want

1282
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: that shit on your site.

1283
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 2: Okay, but what was the argument for why they shouldn't

1284
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 2: do it, Because that was more like the argument for

1285
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 2: why they should do it because you said they should

1286
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 2: you you think they should not have done it.

1287
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 5: Oh, just to allow people amateur porn and things like that.

1288
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: People that might want to put porn out there, but

1289
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: they might not want their name and the address and

1290
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: telephone number and shit attached to what they do what

1291
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: they're doing, because once you put it where it could

1292
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: be linked back to somebody, all of a sudden, you

1293
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: kind of take away the privacy of some people.

1294
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 5: Of I just want to make porn, but I don't

1295
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 5: want to be attached.

1296
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 3: To it or or I feel like if you make it,

1297
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 3: I feel like you're never unattached to it.

1298
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,919
Speaker 2: It's not like verify you means that I can click

1299
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 2: on the link and it's like this is Sharon Jones.

1300
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 3: That's not how it works. So I don't think.

1301
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what your imagining verification would look like,

1302
01:03:58,440 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 2: but it's really more like, yeah.

1303
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 5: I guess made up, made up, made it up of

1304
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 5: what it's gonna be.

1305
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it won't be.

1306
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 2: Users can tell where who made this, where you came from. Yeah,

1307
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 2: it's really more like this is being made. This was

1308
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 2: being posted on our site from a person who we

1309
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 2: verify who they are, so that if they were to

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01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 2: post something that was illegal or untoward or whatever, we

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Speaker 2: would be like, this is the person that put this

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Speaker 2: on here, you know, go check with that, and also okay,

1313
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 2: go ahead, yeah, and you.

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Speaker 1: Can hold them accountable. So from from that perspective, I

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01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: completely understand what then if they're not gonna do this

1316
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: thing where you know, the verification is just so intrusive

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01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 1: or some shit like that, like, Okay, then I understand

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01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: what everybody else is saying. But if it's like one

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Speaker 1: of these things where we put it out, we've got

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Speaker 1: it out there somebody hacking.

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Speaker 5: Somebody can say, I can we can tell that you've

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Speaker 5: designed this whatever.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, no, Well they can hack the shit, now,

1324
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 2: that's true. The song's gonna hack it, you know, But

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Man, Listen, I just think about poor

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01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 2: Jail Covan. You know, he's somewhere with his pants around

1327
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 2: his ankles, glaring into his laptop. You know, his heart

1328
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 2: is broken, these tears going down his face, these precious

1329
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 2: sweet angels.

1330
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 3: That have had all this trauma that have happened to him.

1331
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,959
Speaker 2: And you know, the only cost to fix this would

1332
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 2: be to verify who is creating the porn and we

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01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 2: can just you know, alleviate all this stuff. Side man, okay,

1334
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 2: because I mean I didn't want the guilt tripy. But

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01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 2: you know when this man is somewhere with a tied

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01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 2: around his neck and he's stuck you know, cookies dog

1337
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 2: bone in his mouth and he's biting down on he's

1338
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 2: got a thing around his neck that tightening him on

1339
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 2: his you know, and he's just about to pass out.

1340
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 3: I don't want this man to have this on his

1341
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 3: conscience can and.

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01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 5: I don't want to be on mind. Okay, I understand.

1343
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 5: I agree with you.

1344
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 2: When he is in a closet hanging upside down with

1345
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 2: the blood rushing to his head, because this is not

1346
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 2: the only way he can get off in his sick fantasies.

1347
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 3: Okayh he needs to.

1348
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 2: Know that this is happening, this, that this is not

1349
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 2: costing the world more harm then then, you know, when

1350
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 2: he's just trying to support these sex workers. So that's

1351
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 2: why I think about you, consciousness, and that's why I vote.

1352
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 2: That's why I vote yes, take it off and if

1353
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 2: for the greater good, agreed. Okay, I hate to get

1354
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 2: on my soapbox like that, which is also what JL uses.

1355
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 3: A soapbox sometimes. But listen, that's not that's not the point. Okay.

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01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 2: When he's got his you know, to messing Robby Vaney

1357
01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 2: penis out here that he is tied a string around

1358
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 2: for some reason.

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01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 3: I don't know why.

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01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know why he's in did

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01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 5: we get him?

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01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 2: I'm not here to judge him, Karen, Okay, Well, he's

1363
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 2: and I just want him to be able to do

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01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 2: that in good conscience. Yeah, okay, Well he has greased

1365
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 2: himself down with with UH with vegetable oil, because I

1366
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 2: don't know why vegetable oil with vegetable oil completely and

1367
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 2: he is new and he has laid plastic down on

1368
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 2: all the furniture and the carpet, and he is just

1369
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 2: sliding around the house okay, watching for her on his

1370
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 2: on his UH, on his big TV. I don't want

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01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 2: people to be like this is what JAYL contributes to

1372
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 2: and god damn it, I stand for his freedom speech.

1373
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 5: Let me too, I stand with JL.

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01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 2: Episode twenty forty, Love Yourself First. There was the last

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01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 2: episode of the week and we had two comments. Katrina

1376
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 2: Pavela says, wait, so if the body's internal temperature is

1377
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 2: ninety eight point six degrees and COVID can't survive at

1378
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 2: over ninety degrees, then.

1379
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 3: Insert obvious lord, make it make sense.

1380
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeahh Tyre's didn't graduate from the science school, you know

1381
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 2: what I mean. Edie says, I honestly don't understand why

1382
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 2: more celebrities don't ruin this, don't run their social media

1383
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:26,719
Speaker 2: accounts like Beyonce with zero interaction because fan culture is trash.

1384
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 2: I knew when I saw Lizo doing that clans, they

1385
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 2: would come for her. You're damned if you do. You're

1386
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 2: damn if you don't. People just like projecting our own

1387
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,759
Speaker 2: insecurities on other people, especially on the Internet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. You know what's funny though, And I think about

1389
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 3: this a lot. Every argument we make for why a.

1390
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 2: Celebrity should handle their social media differently is the same

1391
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 2: one we could make for ourselves. So I would imagine

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01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,480
Speaker 2: the reason that they're not doing it is very similar.

1393
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 3: To the reason we're not doing it.

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01:08:56,479 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 2: That way, we could all imitate Beyonce. I'm not logging

1395
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 2: onto this shit. I don't got nothing to say, I'm

1396
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 2: not reading nothing, I'm not interacting with you motherfuckers. I'll

1397
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 2: come down and post one picture for my Instagram a

1398
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 2: month and that's it.

1399
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 3: We could all do that. But there's something about it, man.

1400
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 3: The social media is addictive.

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01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 1: It's and also it's a difference too, because you now

1402
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 1: have a spot that you brought up where you're actually

1403
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 1: being pushed to interact, like you're actually being pushed. They're

1404
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: going you have to have these things in order to

1405
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,560
Speaker 1: interact with your fans. Like it's almost it's almost not

1406
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: a non option right now.

1407
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 3: Like you have to.

1408
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: And as people get famous, they get to the point

1409
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 1: where a lot of them tap out and go, Okay,

1410
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 1: here's everything about management team's hand, But initially.

1411
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 5: A lot of them create this shit on their own.

1412
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 2: Well, what I'm saying is it's not even just whether

1413
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 2: or not you push people. We're all growing up with

1414
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 2: the same social mediagre.

1415
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 5: Yes we are.

1416
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 2: And then what we're saying is we want you internally

1417
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 2: to view yourself as it's different and no longer use it.

1418
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 3: We're gonna keep using.

1419
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 5: It, right, and we're not going to give it up.

1420
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 3: We're like, this is harmful for you, but we but

1421
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 3: we're on the same thing.

1422
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 2: It's harmful for all of us that but we somehow

1423
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 2: just feel like only the celebrity shit change how they

1424
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 2: handle it. The rest of us, you know, should just

1425
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 2: be out here. The poe was that Lizo betray the

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01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 2: body positive community by doing the clans yes or no

1427
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 2: car no, And this is very rare on the show,

1428
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 2: but we got one hundred percent Poe, one hundred percent

1429
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 2: of the audience said no, she was not portraying the

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01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:35,560
Speaker 2: community by doing that.

1431
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 3: Now, what I find interesting is if you went on

1432
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 3: social media that day. It was definitely a lot of

1433
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 3: people loudly to crying.

1434
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 2: Her specifically as like to the point where they were

1435
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 2: pointing out shit like you know that shit what they

1436
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 2: do with Like my mama died while getting surgery and you.

1437
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 5: Like it was nothing to do with her.

1438
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 2: The insanity of social media, man, it is fucking It

1439
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 2: should be scary to everyone, Yes, sir, all right.

1440
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 3: We also got some more feedback. We got some voicemails.

1441
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 2: The voicemail number is seven oh four five five seven

1442
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 2: zero one A six and seven O four five five

1443
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 2: seven zero one eighty six and the voicemails have to

1444
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 2: be less than two minutes so you will get cut off.

1445
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 3: We did get one voicemail this week.

1446
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 7: Oh my god, you guys, this is a legra. I'm

1447
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 7: listening to the Feedback Show twenty two thirty six, episode

1448
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 7: twenty two thirty six, and I literally laughed out loud

1449
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 7: when someone brought up Crutch Country crossing butter tubs that

1450
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 7: Karen was like, was never butter in there? There was

1451
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 7: never butter in there ever, Like what happened to the butter?

1452
01:11:55,880 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 7: I don't remember eating gets butter. That just took me out,

1453
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 7: You guys, love you as always.

1454
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 3: Thank you, Aleg, thank you appreciate your writing. Phone it in.

1455
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 1: It was yellow and I think at one period of

1456
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 1: time it may have been butter. But the butter got

1457
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: on the biscuits or whatever else we made.

1458
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,560
Speaker 5: But once that butter was gone, you never know.

1459
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: It could be markers, could be sewing kicked, you know,

1460
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 1: it could be great. You ain't never know what you're

1461
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: gonna find.

1462
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 5: It could be heibos.

1463
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into the feedback emails the Blackouts

1464
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 2: at gmail dot com. Joe Got Me episode twenty two

1465
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 2: thirty seven. Hey fam, When I listened to episode twenty

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01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 2: two thirty seven.

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01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 3: Joh I got me.

1468
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 2: I heard you had some skills. You asked someone to

1469
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 2: put your rap on the Milli beat, So I did.

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01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 2: I sent the beat, the bird man, the congratulations. You're

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01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 2: now signed the cash money. Unfortunately, you are signed to

1472
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 2: a three sixty deal and will never receive any money.

1473
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 2: The beat is called anything for Money featuring Rapping rod

1474
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 2: at k random Thought, black thoughts, cousin lol.

1475
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 3: Enjoy. Now, I don't know.

1476
01:12:58,600 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 2: If I could play it or not, because I don't

1477
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 2: know how much of it is from the original.

1478
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 3: Psycho music. Okay, cool. So you didn't just take day

1479
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,680
Speaker 3: beat and due all right, cool, let me.

1480
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 6: Get that pardon, mister Trump, if you don't mind, pleasy

1481
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 6: f baby in the f then for bedtime.

1482
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 3: Got a new home and like sounding my bedtime sold

1483
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 3: up the top for wanning go out like a landmind.

1484
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 6: If you don't mind, let me get that pardon, mister Trump,

1485
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 6: if you don't mind a MILLI getting there around.

1486
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 3: Like, oh my god, that is ridiculous.

1487
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 2: I fear the sotality. I really was joking when I

1488
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 2: said I put this on a million beat, But.

1489
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 3: It doesn't sound as bad as I thought it was.

1490
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 2: There's a lot of talent going on out here in

1491
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 2: the way on the the black out tips, including me.

1492
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 3: Apparently we got some other emails.

1493
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 2: Got a gift, okay, we appreciate y'all that take the

1494
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 2: turn out to give us to give us things. Okay,

1495
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 2: on the Amazon wish list, and you know this year

1496
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 2: we have they finally let me put Kendle on there

1497
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 2: for my gifts.

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01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 8: Gifts, gifts, gifts, more gifts, more gifts, and.

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01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 5: That has been a number one request. Uh So.

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01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 2: The Color of Money, Black Banks, and the Racial Wealth

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01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: Gap by Merisa.

1502
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 3: Baradering I mean I did add it to the list,

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01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 3: so U Shelby B got it for US. Americass you

1504
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 3: and Karen. Hope you enjoyed the book. I will thank you.

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01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 3: Let's see we.

1506
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 2: Got an email from LJ says high Ride and Karen.

1507
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 2: I love the show and I was listening to the

1508
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 2: UK originally from the US. I was just listening to

1509
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 2: episode twenty two thirty eight, in which you talked about

1510
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 2: things that are allowed and not allowed in other countries

1511
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 2: right now. I thought it might be helpful to have

1512
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 2: some insight into what's going on here in the UK.

1513
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 2: It's just one country and one example. There are, of course,

1514
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 2: lots of different ways of dealing with the virus attached.

1515
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 2: All the rules for my council basically the same as

1516
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 2: a county, taken from our national coronavirus tracking app. Please

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01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 2: keep in mind that my carrent area has a lot

1518
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 2: of cases by our standards, still way less than America.

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01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 3: My god. So we are understricted restrictions.

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01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 2: Ie, we are not told we are not to travel

1521
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 2: outside of the county, but the other restrictions, such as

1522
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 2: the ones for gathering with people.

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01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 3: Outside the household, apply everywhere.

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01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 2: People who live alone are allowed to form a support

1525
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 2: bubble with one other household so that they may maintain

1526
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 2: human contact. The same applies to people with children, so

1527
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 2: that has social interactions. I think the most important thing

1528
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 2: right now is for people to have reasonable restrictions on

1529
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 2: what they do, because if no one tells them that

1530
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 2: they can't do it, too many people say fuck it

1531
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 2: and we are being safe, and you end up with

1532
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:13,799
Speaker 2: three hundred people at a wedding in November.

1533
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 3: So best lind. Yeah, I was talking to her friend.

1534
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 2: I was talking about she has some people in her

1535
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 2: family they got it and you know, and this is

1536
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 2: what I'll talk to justin all tone, like going to

1537
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 2: work because you know, our government didn't do enough to

1538
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 2: provide people to stay home, right, so having to go

1539
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 2: into work, whether you want to believe it or not,

1540
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 2: it immediately lowers your defenses. Because if I'm at work,

1541
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 2: why not eat out? If you know what I'm saying.

1542
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:42,759
Speaker 2: And if I'm eating out, why not eat inside?

1543
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 3: There's a little cold. I go inside every day to

1544
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 3: go to work, you know.

1545
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 2: If you know, if I use the bathroom at work,

1546
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 2: you know, like this is another place that could happen.

1547
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 2: Like so you're already like, why not hit this sporting event,

1548
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 2: why not go to this bar?

1549
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 3: Why not do this thing? Because I'm doing already and.

1550
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: I'm not a joke aside, that's the whole purpose? Like

1551
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 1: that was the purpose of not shutting shit down? Is

1552
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:10,759
Speaker 1: it get people accustomed to going.

1553
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 5: Out and doing shit and those people going, what it

1554
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 5: ain't that bad? I'm out here.

1555
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1556
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it was the purpose of shutting

1557
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 2: of not shutting it down. I don't think they want

1558
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 2: I think what they would like in a perfect world

1559
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:24,719
Speaker 2: is for the economy not to have to shut down

1560
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 2: and for the businesses to stay open somehow.

1561
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 3: Now this is the same government, though.

1562
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 2: That refuses to do the not Republicans government that, let

1563
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 2: me get that straight, not just the government. This is

1564
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 2: the same Republican run government that refuses to do the

1565
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 2: obvious thing that many other places had to do, which

1566
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 2: was we need to provide support for people so they

1567
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 2: won't have to.

1568
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 3: Do these things. They won't go do these things.

1569
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 2: So when we tell a restaurant to close, that restaurant

1570
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 2: doesn't go, we're closing and we're going out of business.

1571
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 3: They go, we're closing. The government is gonna take care

1572
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 3: of us.

1573
01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 2: They're gonna, you know, put a moratorium on rent or whatever,

1574
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 2: and we will be back when when they decide this

1575
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 2: is over.

1576
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 3: What we did instead was go, we don't want to

1577
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 3: give you shit. Make it work, yep.

1578
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 1: And that's why immediately people started being laid off, people

1579
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 1: started losing their jobs. They was like, fuck it, we

1580
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:14,799
Speaker 1: can't afford it. We're not getting the compensation.

1581
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 2: We sent the grandson to the store for some Virginia

1582
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 2: sit slims and a Pepsi with fifty five cents. And

1583
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 2: when they said, what the fuck I'm so to do

1584
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 2: with this, we went make it enough. That's what our

1585
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 2: government did. They and then there's a whole bunch of

1586
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 2: rules that they attached to this for what you can

1587
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 2: and can't do. But I'm not gonna read them all

1588
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 2: because it would take forever. But just you know, we're

1589
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 2: we're doing not a lot of that in a lot

1590
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 2: of areas in the country.

1591
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 5: Whatever you're doing.

1592
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 2: We go to Texas in Florida, they had they could

1593
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:48,520
Speaker 2: write the same sheet on one in less than one paragraph.

1594
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, because the rules are not existing.

1595
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 2: U in myne right saying hey, Roding can just right

1596
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 2: there to tell you I love you and I hope

1597
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 2: you have an amazing holiday season. I've been saving up

1598
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 2: episodes of Bench Listening over the break and I just

1599
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 2: started today Friday listening to the main show. Y'all are

1600
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 2: so it's so joy for me heart emoji, and I'm

1601
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 2: starting off my break right.

1602
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 3: I love to hear it.

1603
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 2: I also started watching Gangs of London with my husband

1604
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 2: and so good. After two guests recommended it to you,

1605
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 2: I had to check it out again. Love y'all, and

1606
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 2: take care. It feels good going into a new year

1607
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 2: knowing we'll have a new administration. So Amon, I'm glad

1608
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 2: you're feeling good Man for real, Thank you mine. That

1609
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 2: was a very nice, lovely note. Yes, okay, we got

1610
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 2: another gift. My This is from Jane, the written one.

1611
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 2: She says to two of my favorite podcasts. This year

1612
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 2: has been a rough one, but your show and my

1613
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 2: Black Guy Test friends in the chat have been the highlight.

1614
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 3: Love y'all, Happy.

1615
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 2: Holidays, and here's to twenty twenty one being a better year.

1616
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 2: And it's an Amazon gift card. Okay, applies to my

1617
01:19:56,040 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 2: Amazon account right now? Okay, apply to your Amazon account? Yes, okay,

1618
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to spend this. I'm gonna treat myself

1619
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 2: to something. I don't know what yet, but something getting

1620
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 2: treated to us in here. Might it might be some

1621
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 2: more gummy worms.

1622
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1623
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 5: I love them worms.

1624
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 2: Uh.

1625
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 3: And then we got a.

1626
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 2: Gift from Trey, who says, Merry Christmas, Riding, Karen, Happy holidays.

1627
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:23,719
Speaker 3: Thank you for everything you do. Ride.

1628
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you took you took to be to

1629
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 2: be in Black and Zen. Here's another book from angel

1630
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,719
Speaker 2: Enjoy and it's radical Dharma, talking race, love and liberation.

1631
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1632
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 2: I will add this to my I will accept this

1633
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 2: gift added to my kindle. And you know, who knows

1634
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,639
Speaker 2: when I get around to these books, but I will.

1635
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:47,680
Speaker 2: I will never be for lack of something to read, you, No,

1636
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 2: I've just been trying to wretch out and read stuff

1637
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 2: that is relevant to my life today and just ways

1638
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 2: of thinking differently, you know, or at least embracing some

1639
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 2: new ways of considering things, because I don't know, man,

1640
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 2: I feel like I've just this this year, while it's

1641
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 2: been a pandemic for me, has also been really enriching.

1642
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 3: And I don't mean that like.

1643
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 2: Materially, I just mean that like mentally, like being able

1644
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 2: to disconnect from certain things, being able to have a

1645
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 2: different perspective on shit, being able to embrace myself and

1646
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:26,680
Speaker 2: like my point of view and.

1647
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 3: The people around me.

1648
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:34,719
Speaker 2: You know, it's been really enriching and rewarding and really

1649
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 2: leaning into what we do with the show and.

1650
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 3: Whatnot is in this community we've kind of built around it.

1651
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 2: It's just been real dope, man. And I hope that

1652
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one brings even more of that stuff. Which

1653
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 2: we also got some gifts in the mail. All right,

1654
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 2: so let me open all this stuff up. First of all,

1655
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 2: we got on cards, okay, and just want to remind

1656
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 2: y'all we are taking send your addresses in for the

1657
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 2: holiday cards. If you want to get a holiday card

1658
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 2: from us, send uh send it to the Blackoutis at

1659
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 2: gmail dot com. Send us your mailing address. If you

1660
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 2: want to do me in personal favor, make it in

1661
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 2: the mailing address format. It helps me because if not,

1662
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 2: I have to go in here and add the spaces

1663
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 2: and the and the lines and put everything right, because

1664
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 2: some of y'all just put it all in one sentence.

1665
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 2: Some of y'all leave out certain things, you know, the

1666
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 2: way we learned it in school. You know, if you

1667
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 2: can just do that for me, it helps me. I'm

1668
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 2: not complaining. If you don't do it, you know I'll

1669
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 2: do it for you. But you know, if you want

1670
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 2: to help your brother out, do that for me.

1671
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 3: Okay. So we got this card from oh a girl

1672
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:54,680
Speaker 3: on the shell. Okay, so let me go to the

1673
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 3: car first. T is the season to sparkle and look

1674
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 3: at this. Can y'all see this? Yes?

1675
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 1: S barcold, I got some more cards to hold on

1676
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 1: to forever.

1677
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 3: Yep.

1678
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 2: I think I'm married a harder I have been. I've

1679
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 2: been making collages during the pandemic.

1680
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 3: So I'm sharing one with you.

1681
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 2: Thank you and so and then says thank you for

1682
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 2: all that you do, Love Michelle, And the actual card says,

1683
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 2: rejoicing the Lord, you write us and give thanks to

1684
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 2: all the members of His Holiness Psalm ninety seven twelve.

1685
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 2: And then on the other page that says, may this

1686
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 2: Christmas season and the days ahead sparkle with moments of love,

1687
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:31,719
Speaker 2: laughter and goodwill.

1688
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 3: Have a merry Christmas and an awesome New Year. Thank you,

1689
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 3: And this is the collage. Isn't that dope?

1690
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 2: Stacey Abrams vote Black Lives Matter. Hey, yes, black women,

1691
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:45,879
Speaker 2: Shirley Chisholm.

1692
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 3: This is so dope. Thank you. I don't have to

1693
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 3: put this on my vision board. Ooh no my vision board, Karen,

1694
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 3: I just said it.

1695
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 5: Oh well I get the card.

1696
01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 3: Okay, that's fine, Okay, fair trade. Then we got some gifts.

1697
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 2: Calton B says, enjoy your gift and it's for me, okay,

1698
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 2: some size twelve like uh, some some house shoes. Yeah,

1699
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 2: you got the like inside lining, you know, like a

1700
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 2: good pair of ugs, you know what I mean.

1701
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 3: Well, you just gonna be comfortable on your feet.

1702
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:25,600
Speaker 2: You only have to put on socks with these. Just

1703
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 2: put your feet right up in these, and then take

1704
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 2: care of the heel because you know the ones I

1705
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 2: have Now the heel of the shoe of your foot

1706
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 2: is out a little bit. And uh, you know, I

1707
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 2: don't like that, you know, I don't like being ashy

1708
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 2: or dry or anything. And make me have to put

1709
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 2: on socks with it.

1710
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 5: Got them rub at the bottom. You can walk with

1711
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 5: them outside, can't you?

1712
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 1: You know?

1713
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm it's got that just that good just

1714
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 3: that good material right here. So thank you for these.

1715
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:57,799
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put these on in the second Okay, we got.

1716
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 2: From Rochelle l. We got us a ring light. Okay,

1717
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 2: it's got like a mount and like a like the

1718
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 2: lap with a mount on it and stuff. We use

1719
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 2: ring lights for our live show in the chat and

1720
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 2: stuff or when we are because it just helps light

1721
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 2: us up and stuff. But this one has like its

1722
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 2: on standing all this stuff.

1723
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 3: So thank you, we appreciate it. Okay, we now, last

1724
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 3: week I got some coffee. I drink coffee. This week

1725
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:36,759
Speaker 3: we got some ca cups of hot coco.

1726
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 5: Yes, because I don't drink coffee.

1727
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 3: Yes, Karen doesn't drink coffee, but she wants to feel

1728
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 3: like a grown up.

1729
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 5: Yes I do. I want to be an adult to use.

1730
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 3: The carrot machine.

1731
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 2: Okay, this is from the Matthews family, says Mary christ

1732
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 2: Is to our friends in our head.

1733
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 3: And uh yeah, the best of hot coco.

1734
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's the best of hot coco.

1735
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 3: I don't look like it got some.

1736
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 5: Cider, come on, apple cider.

1737
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 2: According to this, like it got some cider, spice fruit,

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01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 2: hot cinnamon, vanilla, hot coco, delicious, sweet milk chocolate.

1739
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 3: Let's go man, wow, I aren't caring. Go ahead.

1740
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 2: And last one, we got this one I will open.

1741
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 2: I'll read the note first before I open up, because

1742
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:20,759
Speaker 2: I'm not a savage.

1743
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 3: Guys. Come on, Happy Holidays, riding Karen.

1744
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 2: I've been a fan for years and I'm so happy

1745
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 2: to finally be able to spread the hot holiday.

1746
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 3: Spirit down to YouTube. Love you guys, Hope you enjoyed it.

1747
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 2: From Dominic Rivera Yay Porto Rico swab.

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01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:42,600
Speaker 3: Come on, I don't know what that really say. I

1749
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:45,560
Speaker 3: don't speak that. We shout out to Don from the

1750
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 3: Mona Don podcast.

1751
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 5: You know, just a few times. Love him, He's life

1752
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 5: and key.

1753
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 3: Y'all finally got to hear him on this show this year.

1754
01:26:56,120 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 2: And this is universal fireport USB charging station.

1755
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 3: Yes, charge the station, Okay, do this a.

1756
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 2: Lot of these things because you can be like I'm

1757
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 2: gonna charge my my phone, I'm gonna charge my tablet,

1758
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna charge my candle, all in one place.

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01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 3: Very dope. Thank you very much, dom And I think

1760
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 3: that's everything.

1761
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 2: So I'm sure if y'all keep sending us cars and

1762
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 2: more stuff, we'll definitely get those as well.

1763
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 3: And you know, we go down to the mill, they

1764
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:32,560
Speaker 3: know us now, they'd be like, oh, these motherfuckers, I

1765
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:33,799
Speaker 3: know y'all got some packages.

1766
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 5: It's like people showing y'all love. What's happening.

1767
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 3: I usually just go up there once a week to

1768
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 3: get my Hello fresh box.

1769
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 2: And now I'm like, I guess say I go there

1770
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 2: a couple of times, so because if I only go

1771
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 2: up there once, so.

1772
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 3: We I can't carry all this shit home. So thank y'all. Man,

1773
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 3: y'all really do take care of us. We appreciate y'all.

1774
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 3: We appreciate all the love to y'all show us, and

1775
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 3: we'll be back. You know, I thought about taking a

1776
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 3: week off because it's Christmas week. What do you think, car?

1777
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 3: Should we take the week off?

1778
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 5: Completely up to you? Now, I would. I would like

1779
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 5: to do a Christmas show, though, I want to do

1780
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 5: a show on Christmas.

1781
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 3: Which is what Friday.

1782
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to do a show.

1783
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 1: On Christmas like we did for Thanksgiving, because you know,

1784
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 1: we know a lot of people ain't going to be

1785
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 1: with their family and friends, and.

1786
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 2: Well, I know we're doing balls Deep on Thursday, so

1787
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 2: you're thinking Friday we should do something. Okay, all right,

1788
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 2: well so we might. We'll probably take this week off.

1789
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 2: I know we got a couple of other things to

1790
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 2: do too. This week with meetings and recording the other

1791
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 2: podcast if.

1792
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 5: We change our minds in your feed.

1793
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 2: If you don't see us in your feed this week,

1794
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 2: don't panic. We just took it off for Christmas and

1795
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 2: the holidays and stuff. Email us the Blackouts at Gmail

1796
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 2: with your holiday card mailing addresses and we'll make sure

1797
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 2: to get those out to y'all soon.

1798
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, and for those of you listening, we'll I

1799
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 1: guess we do like we did before, we'll send out

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01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: the information about when we'll record on Christmas Day.

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01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, I definitely want to do a Christmas show.

1802
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 5: I would like to.

1803
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 2: All right, cool, So we'll probably see y'all next Friday.

1804
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 2: Elect your premium, see you next Thursday, all right, y'all?

1805
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:20,680
Speaker 3: Until then, I love you.

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01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 5: I love you too.

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01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 3: Why