1 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace on Sirius XM Triumph Channel 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: one thirty two. At this point, detectives believed that Julie 3 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: left on her own a board, and there is nothing 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: to indicate that she's in any immediate danger. A beautiful 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: young girl, just sixteen years old, Jolie goes missing. What happened? 6 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: Her body has been found in an Alexandria park, a 7 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: public park in Virginia, Fairfax County. I'm Nancy Grace, this 8 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. What 9 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: happened to this beautiful team girl, Jolie Musa joining me 10 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: right now is a very special guest. It is Mark, 11 00:00:55,200 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: Class victim's advocate, founder of Class Kids, a crime victim himself. Mark, 12 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being with us. Mark. We 13 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: know that Jolie's body has been found in an open park, 14 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: a public park. It's Woodlawn neighborhood park on Manner Drive, 15 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: found just beyond a set of tennis courts. And why 16 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: I keep saying an open park, This is a public 17 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: park where anyone could have seen what happened. Her body 18 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: covered in leaves and debris. According to police, Mark Class 19 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: you studied the case very carefully, what are your thoughts? Well, 20 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: first of all, Nancy, and I'm a huge supporter of 21 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: law enforcements, but I think that they absolutely and totally 22 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: dropped the ball on this case. Jolie went missing on 23 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: the twelfth. She was reported missing to the police early 24 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: on the thirteenth, and they refused to take a report. 25 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: They said instead that she was a runaway because there 26 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: was no proof of anything else. On the fift the 27 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: mother one, okay, wait, let me just stop you right there, 28 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: Mark Class, because it's breaking my heart. We don't know 29 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: if her life could have been saved. She's reported less 30 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: than twenty four hours later. And instead of saying, unless 31 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: we know different, she's a runaway, why not say, unless 32 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: we know different, she's kidnapped. Because they were in way 33 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: over their heads. I mean, they were using the default 34 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: answer from that's what they that's what they told parents, 35 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: and if children disappeared, police would say, well, she's probably 36 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: a runaway and they would absolve themselves of any further responsibility. 37 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: But that doesn't cut it anymore. That doesn't work anymore 38 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: because we know much more about the disappearance of children, 39 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: and we know that runaway children are at risk. Children 40 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: that tend to populate the human trafficking ranks. So there's 41 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: nothing correct about the response from law enforcement. It's got 42 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: so bad, Nancy, that on the mother gave an interview 43 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: to the local Fox television station where she was just bawling. 44 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: The twin sister couldn't stop crying. They led the news 45 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: with it, yet the police were still saying that she 46 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: wasn't in danger. The family knew it, the media knew it, 47 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: the public knew it, and the cops were completely oblivious 48 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: to the fact that this child was in imminent danger, 49 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: if not already did. You're right, Mark Class, my old friend, 50 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: my colleague. That is exactly what the mom told Local 51 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: Thoughts five. Take a listen to what Mark Class has 52 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: just described. Their last call was the call to me. 53 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening, and I don't care. I 54 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: just want you to come home. Have you've done something 55 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: and you don't feel comfortable talking to me about it, 56 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: That's okay. You're not in trouble. If someone's with you, 57 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: we don't care about you either. Just take her to 58 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: a Walmart, take her anywhere, and just drop her off there. 59 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: If you know any information about where my child is 60 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: please please, please, please, pleave leave, please just let us 61 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: know you're fine. I know you are, and I love 62 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: you and I will see you soon. Julie's mother, Sereda, 63 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 1: told Fox five she does not believe her daughter would 64 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: have ever run away. She has no history of ever 65 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: running away before. As a matter of fact, the mom says, 66 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: the last time she saw Julie, her daughter, Jolie said, 67 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: should be right back, and didn't even take her phone charger, 68 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: didn't take any extra clothes with her. Nothing, No clothes, 69 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: her phone charger, her iPad at nothing taken missing from 70 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: the home. Take a listen to Jolie's mother, And it 71 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: hurt me how it was handled. It hurt two. It 72 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: is hurt because I know my child and I know 73 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: that was out of character for her not to come home. 74 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: If this girl were running away, you know, she would 75 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: have taken some of her favorite things. No, nothing, and 76 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, the most important thing in a teen girl's 77 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: life is her cell phone. She didn't even take her charger, Mark, class, 78 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: you are dead on as usual. And you know, Mark, 79 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: I hate. I hate to chip away at the cops. Okay, 80 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: I do, because I think overall they're good intentioned, but 81 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: in these cases, and we've covered so many together mark 82 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: where the child is deemed a runaway and they always 83 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: end up dead. Every time we cover it, the child 84 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: is dead and the police sat on their time's calling 85 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: it a runaway. In this case, Nancy, it wasn't until 86 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: a couple of days later, I believe on the six 87 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: teams that law enforcement finally had a meeting with the 88 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: FBI in the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. 89 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: And it was after that meeting that they said, oh, well, 90 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: maybe there is something more going on here. You shouldn't 91 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: have to be schooled by a nonprofit on how to 92 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: treat a missing child case if you are a professional 93 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: law enforcement agency. So this is something that is it's 94 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: it's unconscionable, and it's something that needs to be corrected. 95 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: In fact, the first Missing Child Protocol was written in 96 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: the aftermath of police case almost twenty five years ago. 97 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: By this time, every law enforcement agency should either know 98 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: how to respond to one of these cases or know 99 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: that if they don't know how to respond, they need 100 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: to be FBI and immediately, because they always take them seriously. 101 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: We are talking about a gorgeous young Fairfax, Virginia teen 102 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: absolutely beautiful, the most beautiful smile I think I've ever seen. 103 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: She lays the home saying she'll be back in an 104 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: hour or so. She doesn't even take her cell phone charger. 105 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: She's never seen my mom again. It's breaking my heart 106 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: to hear it. Now you just heard my friend Mark, 107 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: Class founder of Class Kids, discuss Polly's case. Mark. For 108 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: those listeners that don't know what you're talking about, please explain. 109 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: Was my twelve year old daughter, and she was hosting 110 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: a slumber party with two girlfriends on the evening of 111 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: October one in the home that she shared with her 112 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: mother in Pedalo Ma, California. And at about ten thirty 113 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: in the evening, a bearded, knife wielding stranger entered Paully's bedroom, bound, 114 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: gagged and blindfolded the girls um and then he stole 115 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: Pauli into the night. Her last words were please don't 116 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: hurt my mother and sister. And we then spend the 117 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: next sixty five days. When I say we, I mean 118 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: my family. The city of Pedaluma, Sonoma County law enforcements 119 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: the FBI, only to find that a resitious violent offender 120 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: had kidnapped, raped, and murdered Paully within a two hour period, 121 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: the very night that he had kidnapped her. That individual 122 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: now was residing on California's death row. You know, Mark, 123 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: I want to slow you down just one moment, because 124 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: you just did something I always do when people ask me, 125 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: and I'm not prepared for it about my fiance's murder. 126 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: For years, it would get me so distraught. Then I 127 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: figured out how to tell the story quickly and concisely 128 00:08:55,320 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: and move on. And the way you just deliver Polly's story, 129 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. Um. Just to hear you say that 130 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: so quickly and concisely so you can then move on 131 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: from it, it just broke my heart because I just 132 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: think the world of you, and I just hate that 133 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: you went through anything painful at the end of what 134 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: you said that in two hours from the time Polly 135 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: was taken from her mom's home at a sleepover for 136 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: Pete's sake, within two hours, it was over. In this 137 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: case we're analyzing, Mark, Jolie left on the twelve. The 138 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: parents reported her missing in less than twenty four hours, 139 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: probably hoping the whole time. Well, you know, she got 140 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: with her girlfriends and they've gone to the mall. You know, 141 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: I just can't find her, or you know what, I 142 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: bet they went to the mall. I bet they went 143 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: to a late movie. That's what they're doing. And she 144 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: has not called home. She's in so much trouble. Then 145 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: you know what, I bet she's spent the night at 146 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: so and so's and they start calling the friends and 147 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: by about four o'clock in the morning, they're like, where 148 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: is she? And then they call police. I guarantee that's 149 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: how that night went down. But you said in two 150 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: hours it was over when Polly was taken out of 151 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: her home. You know, I keep my own because of Polly. Mark. 152 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: I do not even have the children in the house 153 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: without the alarm on at any time. I don't care morning, 154 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: noon or night. Because of what I have learned from you, Mark, 155 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: class two hours it was over for Polly. Look, by 156 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: the time the police sit down and talk with the family, 157 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: it's the sixtin, Mark, how many hours have passed. It's 158 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: just unbelievable, you know. And it's not just Paulie. I 159 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: mean seventy children that are going to be murdered as 160 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: a result of an induction are dead within the first 161 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: three hours. That's why there is no time to lose 162 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: and why there is no no acceptance of incompetence in 163 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: these kinds of cases. It just shouldn't be that way anymore. 164 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: And this is a case where everything fell apart. You 165 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: know what, you you are just so much stronger than 166 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: I am. You are because you are right to business 167 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: in trying to solve the Jolie Moussin case, as you 168 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: should be. And I'm hung up and the pain and 169 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: it's suffering the family is going through. You know, we 170 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: are analyzing what happened. We know the little girl is dead. 171 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: Her body has been found near Tennis Courts in a 172 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: public park, but there is no suspect. No one has 173 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: been arrested in this case. Police defending their actions. When 174 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: Joe was reported missing on Saturday, she had already been 175 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: gone for a day. She had left her home and 176 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: seen on camera under circumstances that not did not seem 177 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: to be unusual. The family contacted us the following day 178 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: when they realized and felt that Jolie's actions were no 179 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: longer the norm for her. Our officers responded, took an 180 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: initial report and immediately entered her into the national database. 181 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: They conducted a number of interviews and a number of 182 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: searches of friends, homes and contacted friends and some local 183 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: hangouts without success. But at that point still nothing appeared 184 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: to be of a nature where we felt she was 185 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: truly in danger. Was no indication of an abduction or 186 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: anything like that at that time. The next day, patrol 187 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: officers continued that and we continued to follow up any 188 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: leads and all the information provided by the family on Monday. 189 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: That continued through the holiday. On Tuesday, we met with 190 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: people from the National Center for Missing Exploited Children and 191 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: the FBI. As we met with them and we discussed 192 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: our various options. It was at that time with Jolie's 193 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: um literally falling off the electronic radar, no communication, no 194 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: social media, no postings like that, and talking with the family, 195 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: this clearly was now something that was beyond normal. At 196 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: that point, we upgraded her status as an endangered missing 197 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: juvenile and our efforts continued. Our efforts continued every day 198 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: through interviews, searches, web searches, search warrants, legal process through 199 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,599 Speaker 1: social media and such, and that continued up until the 200 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: day that she was found and continues beyond um. I 201 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: will tell you that on that Tuesday, when we uh 202 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: spoke with the FBI and the National Center for Missing 203 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: Exploited Children. The number of leads that we had had 204 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: both viable and um leads that did not pan out, 205 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: took us to places as far as Philadelphia, up and 206 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: down the East Coast. UH. We were in contact with 207 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: the Old Dominion University Police, the Norfolk Police, the FBI 208 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: in the Norfolk Field Office, the FBI in the Philadelphia 209 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: Field Office. This case took a lot of turns, with 210 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: a lot of incoming information and a lot of leads 211 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: to follow up and continues have just an enormous amount 212 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: of leaves and we the Police Department homicide detectives are 213 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: continuing to follow up just an enormous amount of information 214 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: that has come in from the public and leads that 215 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: we've developed. But Mark Class, the hours they lost, as 216 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: they insisted she was a runaway, could have saved her life. Mark, 217 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: it very well could have. There's no question about that. 218 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: And that's why you have to know what you're doing, 219 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: and if you don't, you get a hold of somebody 220 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: that does know what they're doing, and in this case, 221 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: that would have been the FBI. There in Alexandria, Virginia. 222 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: That's where the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children 223 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: is headquartered. I mean, my goodness, after should be ground 224 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: central for missing kids in America. And here's a situation 225 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: where they just failed miserably. But I guess, Nancy, if 226 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: there's any kind of a silver lining, it's the fact 227 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: that several days later, the mother again went on the 228 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: Fox five and she talked about the fact that she 229 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: now had to be the voice for her child, that 230 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: she had an unintended question her life now, which was 231 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: to be the voice for Jolie and to make sure 232 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: that what happened to her doesn't happen to other children, 233 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: so that she'd gotten so that she hadn't died in Vain. 234 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, take a listen to Jolie's mother. 235 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: Now it's Jolie, this tragedy can bring something good, then 236 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to make sure that my child did not 237 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: die in Vain. In addition to being Janet's mother and 238 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: Jolie's mother, I am now going to strive to be 239 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: a voice for so many families that a child will 240 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: lob out the door and never come home and they're 241 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: just labeled as a runaway in their business, and that's 242 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: not okay. The worst outcome that could possibly happen has happened. 243 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: So at this moment point, I'm in it for the 244 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: long haul. This is the first time you don't see 245 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: me on DV for the last time. I'm in it 246 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: for the long haul because don't want anyone else to 247 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: go through what my child went to. Let me switch 248 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: gears very quickly. I'm thinking back to my days as 249 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: a prosecutor, when I would wake up at five thirty 250 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: in the morning, race to chord, start a trial at 251 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: eight o'clock, and keep going strong till midnight, looking for 252 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: witnesses for the next day. Things change, working, taking care 253 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: of the twins, cooking dinner, the works. Now I found 254 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: out about something awesome and it's called super beats s 255 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: U P E R b e e t s, and 256 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: I love them. I didn't know about them. I had 257 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: been hearing about quote super foods. 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I 286 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: knew she was like a predator's dream basically, you know 287 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: what I mean, because she was just a little and 288 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: dainty and kind and sweet and timid, and and I 289 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: was just like, oh my goodness, I was sold right. 290 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: I thought this couldn't possibly happen to me because I'm 291 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: so cautious and I'm always talking to them, and you know, 292 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm so fearful, and it happened. The search was on 293 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: at that point for Jolie Moosa, a desperate search all 294 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: across Alexandria, Virginia and Fairfax County. The police asking for 295 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: the public's help to find the missing team sixteen year 296 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: old Joe Lee last seen the twelve, but it wasn't 297 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: until the sixteen that police get serious and finally realized 298 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: she's missing. Joining me right now, Lee Egan, Crime online 299 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: dot Com reporter Lee, what can you tell us? How 300 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: was the body found? So? The body was found um 301 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: in the park near tennis courts, buried under brushes and leaves. 302 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: It was very really well to where, you know, just 303 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: walking by you wouldn't be able to see her, but 304 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: it was still an open view. It was where if 305 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: somebody happened to rape that area, they would find her. 306 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: Officers discover Jolie's body in Woodlawn Park, less than a 307 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: mile from her home. That is where the body was discovered. 308 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: Her body, her dead body found behind a pair of 309 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: tennis courts, covered in leaves and debris. Not fully buried, 310 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: but covered in leaves and debris. To Ashley Wilcott, lawyer 311 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: and child advocate, that tells me a lot the mode 312 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: of disposal of the body. First of all, she didn't 313 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: make it far from her home, and second of all, 314 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: it was a disposal of convenience. It reminds me of 315 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: the Robert Blake case where his wife who was killed 316 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: right behind the Italian restaurant where they were going to 317 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: dinner that evening. She her body was left right there 318 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: and the and the murder weapon was just thrown in 319 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: a dumpster because the killer never really seemed to leave 320 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: the scene. And here it says to me her body 321 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: was not transported very far at all and was just 322 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: you know, barely covered up with leaves and debris. No 323 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: no grave, dug, no hole, dug She wasn't dumped down 324 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: a ravine or put in garbage bags and left at 325 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: a dumpster. Why what does that say to you, Ashley? 326 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: The same thing that this was a crime of convenience, 327 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: meaning that someone chose her as the victim, did what 328 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: they wanted, killed her, throw her out quick, not deliberately 329 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 1: planned for a particular victim to say I'm gonna do 330 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: these things, and then disposed of the body here. Crime 331 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: of convenience. Somebody got to her, murdered her, probably within 332 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: the three hour window that you've already heard is a 333 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: statistical um case with a lot of these abductions, and 334 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: then just threw her out. Back to Mark, Class, founder 335 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: of Class Kids, Mark, what does this scenario say to you? 336 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: Her body found less than a half a mile from 337 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: her home, not really hidden very well in a public park. Well, 338 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: it tells me a couple of things. First of all, 339 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 1: it tells me that somebody lured a child out of 340 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: her home and then murdered her and then just tossed 341 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: her into the park and walked away as if nothing 342 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: had happened. He couldn't have he she couldn't have cared 343 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: less about this individual. Obviously, wandered her dead. I think 344 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: it was I think it was planned. I think that 345 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: this is exactly what this individual had in mind when 346 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: he lured her out of her home in the afternoon 347 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: so that he could murder her. We're also looking at 348 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: information on her cell phone Mark Class. Before she left 349 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: the house, she apparently received a phone call from a 350 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: cell phone that payed at that park mark class. Just awful. 351 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: You know, this a where I become emotional about these things, 352 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: because if the child can't be safe in their home, 353 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: where in the world can they be safe? You know, 354 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: these guys use binary code to get into our children's bedrooms. 355 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: They don't even have to lurk in the bushes anymore. 356 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: All they have to do is find a way to 357 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: lure the kids to them, and then they take care 358 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: of their evil intention. It just is the worst possible thing. 359 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: And there's a special place and help for people that 360 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: do things like this. You know that as well as 361 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: I do. Boy do I now get this scenario. Mark. 362 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: She was sitting at home with her twin sister doing 363 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: her twin sister's hair, And I mean, I just think 364 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: about how many millions of times I've just sat there 365 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: and done Lucy's hair over and over again. Um. She 366 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: gets a tech that says, and let me throw this 367 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: to you, Vincent, the old private investigator joining us. She 368 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: gets a text, she receives the Texas says Okay, I 369 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 1: gotta go and leaves. Um the high school sophomore never 370 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: seen alive again. I mean, in my mind, it's got 371 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: to be connected, Vincent, Yeah, absolutely, Nancy. I mean, you 372 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: get the phone call from a phone at the park 373 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: where she was found, to get the text message. More importantly, 374 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: later that night, her sister receives a text that says, 375 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to a party three hours away. But yet 376 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: police never said, well did she come back to get 377 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: a change of clothes, to get things? Like you mentioned 378 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: her charger. So you had all of these red flags 379 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: there on the day she went missing. Unfortunately they weren't 380 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: followed up on, and now we have the tragic ending 381 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: to this case. You know, it's interesting that you brought 382 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: that up, Vincent. I want to follow up on that. Ashley. Uh, 383 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: we're both getting into iPhone territory with our children. Your 384 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: your daughter aged ten, just like Lucy. Here's the that 385 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: cell phone she had with her when she left. I 386 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: find it very difficult to believe that a teen girl 387 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: would wear the same clothes all day long, just like 388 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: Vincent Hill is accurately pointing out, that's why he's the 389 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: private eye. She never came home for a change of 390 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: clothes or to freshen up or anything. She had not 391 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: mentioned this party to anybody. I think somebody else sent 392 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: that text that she was going to a party. There's 393 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: no evidence she ever ended up at a party. I 394 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: completely agree with you, especially given the fact her body 395 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: was located so close to the home. And how easy 396 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: is it for the person who abducted, killed, murdered her 397 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: to then say, Oh, I'm gonna cover my tracks, I'm 398 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: gonna throw him off. I'm just gonna shoot this little 399 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: text to say, oh, yeah, I'm headed to a party, 400 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: so they think, you know, she's going to a party 401 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: and she's a runaway. I completely do not believe that 402 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: she sent that text either, you know, Mark Class. Another 403 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: clue is that that evening her mom mom, Jolie's mom, 404 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: missed a cell call from her daughter. I think whoever 405 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: had whoever killed her, that she was already dead, that 406 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: they went through most recent texts and texted the sister. Hey, 407 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to leave for a party three hours from 408 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: here in Norfolk. That's not true. And then later just 409 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: sent a call to the mom that was missed, didn't 410 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: leave a message, just dial the number and let it 411 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: ring and hung up. What about that, Mark Class? I 412 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: totally agree. I think that that's exactly what happened. The 413 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: individual that did this had a plan and laid out 414 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: the plan, gave themselves some extra time, um by sending 415 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: that text and by making that unresolved phone call, and 416 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: uh walked away from this poor tiny little girl that 417 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: he had buried under leaves in a park. You know, 418 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking it through. It's so cold and calculated, 419 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: Mark Class. The cover up, the cover her up, sending 420 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: these send sending these text messages, and making this call 421 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: from the dead girl's own cell phone to mislead her family. 422 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: That's cold, Mark, It's a cold So it's a it's 423 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: an individual that is filled with hatred and an individual 424 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: that needs to be taken off of the streets and 425 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: kept off of the streets. In fact, I would say 426 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: that this is a kind of a crime to rises 427 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: rises to to the death panel. Oh absolutely, Because Ashley Wilcott, 428 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: lawyer and child advocate. We know very well that a 429 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: suspect's behavior not only before enduring, but after the act 430 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: can be brought into evidence, such as covering up, misleading 431 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: the family so they would not find her body. All 432 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: that evidence can come in at trial, and Mark Class peggnant. 433 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: It's a cold soul that would mislead the family and 434 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: send fake text to her twin sister. And I promise 435 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: she that same soul would do this to any other child. 436 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: It would not end with this child. Right now, every 437 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: attempt possible is being made to determine who made the call. 438 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: Now the cell phone goes back, apparently to a twelve 439 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: year old little boy. He says a man approached him 440 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: in the park where he the little boy was shooting 441 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: basketball and asked to use the phone, and that he 442 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: made the call to Jolie. Is this true? If so, 443 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: how can we ever find him? Mark Class? Another thing, 444 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: if the herse if her Jolly's cell phone was used 445 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: to hide what had happened, to obscure the facts, it 446 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: can at least be pained. At the time she texted, well, 447 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: her cell phone texted her twin sister, and then later 448 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: that night called the mom. Right, absolutely, yeah, there's cellphone 449 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: technology and cell phone fordsic Sciences has come a long 450 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: long way over the course of the years, and I 451 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: believe that the authorities, the FBI, with their vast resources, 452 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: should be able to get to the bottom of exactly 453 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: what happened with the cell phone and perhaps even who 454 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: used the cell phone. Now the question arises, is the 455 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: man who borrowed the twelve year old cell phone actually 456 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: a boyfriend, a former boyfriend, really a stalker of Joel's 457 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: What do you know? Lie in a nutshell. See, they're 458 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: holding this seventeen year old boy. They're not releasing his 459 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: name because you know he's too young. But they're holding 460 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: hand for an assault charge, a previously unreported assault charge 461 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: against Jolie. And they're saying he is a person of 462 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: interest in her murder, but he hasn't been named a 463 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: suspect as of yet. Take a listen, he's being charge 464 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: at the at this juncture with a petition charging him. 465 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: What's felling the assault? And let me clarify that and 466 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: reiterate that the question is so he has not charged 467 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: with her death at this juncture. That is correct, He 468 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: is not charged with with her dead. It was a 469 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: prior incident, a prior incident that was um discovered during 470 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: the course of this investigation that had reported. So as 471 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: of now, no arrest in the case. Take a listen 472 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: to Jolie's mother. Now, I have met him. He has 473 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: come to my house. I have met him, Mark Class. 474 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: What do you make of it? Well, I make of 475 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: it that there's a twisted and evil individual out there 476 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: who has absolutely no qualms against murdering a little girl 477 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: that was five ft two inches tall and weighed a 478 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: hundred and four pounds. He beat her, he left her, 479 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: he lured her out of her home, and then he 480 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: murdered her. I don't know that it gets much more 481 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: dangerous than that, Nancy. And then to obscure the fact 482 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: by texting, texting the sister and the twin sister says, 483 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: she gets this text that Jolie was going to Norfolk 484 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: for a party quote, and I'm like, isn't that more 485 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: than three hours away? I mean, she knew this wasn't 486 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: right for her sister. Take a listen, knowing that she's 487 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: at rest, okay, but I guess being selfish and one 488 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: in her here, that's it's a bit of sleep. It 489 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: definitely like makes me wonder if there's like a serial 490 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: killer or something or I don't know, but that's really 491 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: close to home. A gorgeous young woman disappears in a 492 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: small town. At first, no one thinks anything of it, 493 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: but when you look at it in perspective, it's very alarming. 494 00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: This young woman disappears in a town where bodies have 495 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: been turning up, the deepening mystery surrounding five dead women, 496 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: three recently. Five dead women, three recently in the very 497 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: small town of Lumberton, North Carolina. Right now, Pamela for 498 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: Crime Stories, investigative reporter joining us from North Carolina. One 499 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: by one, Pamela. Decomposing bodies of women turn up dubbed 500 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: across the North Carolina town, five women in all, and 501 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: then a desperate search for a twenty year old who 502 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: seemingly vanished off the face of the earth while visiting 503 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: her mom. When you look at the tally, there five 504 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: women dead in all. Let's just start with the three 505 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: most recent. What's happening, Pamela. That is a very good question, 506 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: and that's what police want to know. What is happening 507 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: and if anybody has any information, Because the investigations still continued, 508 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: they don't know how these bodies died. They don't know 509 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: what happened to them. Specifically, there's three of them that 510 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: were found in a four block radius of Lumberton, North Carolina. 511 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: April eighth, One woman was found on Peachtree Street in Lumberton, 512 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: North Carolina, while another was found in a dumpster on 513 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: East fifth Street the same day. They were found, both women, 514 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: their bodies so badly decomposed that it took at least 515 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: ten days for police and medical examiners to even identify them. 516 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: They're known as Rhonda Jones and Christina Bennett. They're both young. 517 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: Then on June the third, a body was found in 518 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: the yard of an abandoned house. This one would be 519 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: on East eighth Street in Lumberton. Her name is Megan 520 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: Oxen Dine. Her body was found naked, gagged, and bloodied. 521 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: That's according to our fan. The police aren't releasing that 522 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: information yet to the public. But what's so alarming These 523 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: bodies were found within a four block radius there in Lumberton, 524 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: and it has people on edge. They don't know if 525 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: there's a serial killer out there at this point. Now, 526 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: another woman has gone missing from this North Carolina town 527 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: where five others dead. Three. Most recently, it's twenty year 528 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: old Abbey Patterson who vanishes from her home in Lumberton 529 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: while she was visiting her mom. Now Pamela for our 530 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 1: investigative reporter is telling us about Christina Bennett, thirty two, 531 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: found dead inside an abandoned home. That's Christina Bennett. Same day, 532 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: Rodda Jones, early thirties found dead in a dumpster outside 533 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: Her friend Megan Oxendine says this, I mean, I don't 534 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: comprehend and stuff like this's too good. I don't understand 535 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: how somebody can do somebody's child, mother, niece. Right now, 536 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: I doubt or nothing. She's just quiet. She didn't really 537 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: messed with too many people now understand the irony of this. 538 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: After the friend of Rhonda Jones, who was dead in 539 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: a dumpster, speaks to local media about her best friend's death, 540 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: she Megan Oxendine, just twenty eight years old, is found 541 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: naked dead in the woods by the roadside. So far, 542 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: police have not established a cause of death for any 543 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 1: of the three women. I'm I'm overwhelmed right now, Pamela 544 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: for a Crime Stories investigative reporter joining us that a 545 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: co d a cause of death has not been established. 546 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: Yet another woman annishes in the small town in North 547 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: Carolina where we know five others have been found dead 548 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: in very mysterious circumstances. Abby Patterson has now not been 549 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: seen for several months, vanishing from her family's home. She 550 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: told her mom she was going out to just run 551 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 1: a few errands and will be back in about an hour, 552 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: but never came back. She's just gorgeous. She was last 553 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: seen getting into a friend's car and was never seen again. 554 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: Now we know police have interviewed the friend, but as 555 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: of now, no charges. Pamela for what do we know 556 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: about getting in the car with a friend to go 557 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: run errands? And I'm talking right now about missing Abby Patterson, 558 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: twenty years old. We just know she was last seen 559 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: getting into a brown Buick in the same area that 560 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: these women women disappeared, Ninth Street in Lumberton. She had 561 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: come up from Florida to visit her mother a couple 562 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: of days before she disappeared. And as you said, she said, 563 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go run some errands. I'll be back in 564 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 1: an hour, Love you. Mom left and hasn't been seen since. 565 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: Now I will say that Captain Terry Parker with the 566 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: Lumberton Police Department says that he's sure the case is 567 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: not related to the females whose bodies were found. But 568 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: I can tell you, Nancy, the residents of Lumberton aren't 569 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: too sure about that, simply because she disappeared in the 570 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: same area where these women were found, where their bodies 571 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: were found, And as I said earlier, they're wondering if 572 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: the Siller serial killer is out there targeting young women 573 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: in their area. Well, there's no coincidence in criminal law, period. 574 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: And the fact that Megan Oxendine was speaking to local 575 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,720 Speaker 1: media and then three weeks later she's found dead as well, 576 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: No was she onto something? Did she know without knowing 577 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: who her friends killer was. Take a listen now to 578 00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: what police say. We have been working countless hours following leaves, 579 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: conducting interviews, and gathering evidence to determine what happened to 580 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: the women. In June of last year, we asked the 581 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: FBI to assist our department with our investigation into Christina, 582 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: Rhonda and Meghan's death, and we owe it to them 583 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: to fully investigate and uncover the facts of what happened 584 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: to each one of them. As police chief and a 585 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: member of the community. I want to know what happened 586 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: to Christina, Rhonda and Meghan. I also understand there is 587 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 1: a lot of uncertainty, concerned and even fear right now. 588 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: Let me assure you that we are committed to finding 589 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: out the answers. At this point, we do not know 590 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 1: if this is a criminal matter, or whether there is 591 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: another explanation for why these young women are gone. We 592 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:04,800 Speaker 1: hope you will help us. If you saw Christina, Rhonda, 593 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: Megan in the days, months, weeks leading up to their depths, 594 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 1: we need to talk to you. As I said earlier, 595 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: all three women were mothers, they were daughters, sisters and aunts. 596 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: They were loved and they are missed, but they are 597 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: not forgotten. Will we get to the truth, but we 598 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: need your help joining me now. Ashley Wilcott, lawyer and advocate. 599 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 1: Vincent hild private investigator, straight out to Ashley Wilcott. Ashley, 600 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: I mean this town. I come from a town about 601 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: this size, from a neighborhood, a rural community about this size. 602 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: It's very difficult for me to believe that all of 603 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: these cases are not related. Five and all and now 604 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: another missing three, most recently two of them best friends, 605 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: but their murders, separated by three weeks. Ashley, I do 606 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: not believe either, Nancy, that this is coincidence. I agree 607 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: with you, there's no such thing when it comes to crimes. 608 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: I think the question is going to boil down ultimately 609 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 1: to this, is I bet a person deemed a serial 610 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 1: killer at some point in the future, regrettably is what 611 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: I foresee or that's my opinion, is going to happen. 612 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: And then the question is going to become is it 613 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: someone who knows this group of women or these women, 614 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: or how could you not know each other in a 615 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: town that small Ashley's I mean, for all, I know 616 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: that killer went to high school or community college or 617 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: local college with them, or their brother or sister sings 618 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: in the local choirs, the trash pick up man. I 619 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know, but how could they not 620 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: know each other? And as far for for them saying 621 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: they don't think that Abby Patterson's disappearance is not connected. 622 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 1: She's been gone, let's see, I'll you November, December, January. 623 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: She's been gone now five months at the least. How 624 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: can they say that's not unusual. You just drop off 625 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: the map, don't contact your family, your boyfriend, you don't 626 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: use your cell phone, your credit cards, your a t M. No, 627 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,760 Speaker 1: she's dead, you know. I hate it for the family. 628 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: You'd like to hope she's missing and will be found. 629 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,720 Speaker 1: But with these facts, let's be honest. With these facts. 630 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: I do not think there's any chance that she is 631 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: not dead. To Vincent Hill, very well known private investigator, Vincent, 632 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: what do we need to be doing right now? First 633 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: of all, I know you got to bring in experts 634 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: that can determine the cause of death. I know it's 635 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,439 Speaker 1: difficult when there has been a decomposed body. I know that. 636 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: But out of all the bodies, we can't get one 637 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: call cause of death, not one. Yeah, that's the most 638 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: important piece to this whole thing, Nancy. It has all 639 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 1: of the elements of the serial killer. We know that, 640 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,720 Speaker 1: but we need to know a cause of death because 641 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: then we can establish more of a motive, more of 642 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: a of an m O to this killer, because obviously 643 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: he likes to he or she likes to target young 644 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: women in the area. So we need to know the 645 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: cause of death. Where Abbey's case, I'd be looking for 646 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: this brown buick that picked her up and tracking her location. 647 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 1: Her last known location, whether it be her cell phone, 648 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: at m card, anything that was used in that area. 649 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: So maybe I can pull up surveillance footage, are a 650 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 1: witness or anything of that nature. To Ashley will Caught, 651 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: lawyer and advocate, Ashley, was it signal to you that 652 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: now the FBI has been brought in. I think that 653 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 1: it's the local law enforcement admitting it's a bigger issue 654 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 1: than one person has been found dead or deceased. It 655 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,320 Speaker 1: means you've got a serial killer, You've got a situation 656 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: where or there are multiple murders and they need help. 657 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: That's a good thing they called an FBI. Well, the 658 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 1: family of the third most recent woman found dead in 659 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,720 Speaker 1: the small town of Lumberton, North Carolina, states very clearly 660 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: quote she was murdered. They won't believe otherwise, they say, 661 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,919 Speaker 1: until police tell them differently. And I'm referring to Megan Oxendine. 662 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: Her body found near an abandoned home and the central 663 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: area of the city downtown Lumberton, the same area where 664 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: bodies of two of the five other women were found. Again, 665 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 1: police have not said how the woman died or if 666 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: their deaths are related. What is curious, though, what I 667 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: don't understand, Ashley Willcott is why we're not getting a 668 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 1: cause of death, especially on Megan Oxendine. She had not 669 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 1: been missing that law before her body was found. And 670 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 1: that's my question. Do we not know the cause of 671 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 1: because it hasn't been released, or they really unable to 672 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: determine the cause of death. And if they are not 673 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: yet able to determine cause of death, then we can 674 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,439 Speaker 1: rule out some things. Nancy. Clearly that means it wasn't 675 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: a blunt force trauma that beat the skull. And clearly 676 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 1: it means it likely wasn't a shot um from a 677 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 1: gun that would leave the type of injury that the 678 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: cause of death could be easily determined. So maybe it means, 679 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, something ingested. Maybe it means strangulation and 680 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,320 Speaker 1: that part of the body was decomposed. I just I 681 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: don't know which of the two it is. Take a 682 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: listen first to Megan Oxendine sister. It was heartbreaking. I mean, 683 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: one of the worstest villains I may ever feel like 684 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 1: I lost my best friend. I seemed so smart, she 685 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: was such a good person. I just she didn't desire 686 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 1: to Because there's already been two other people that have 687 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: been murdered down there, and it's only been nine weeks, 688 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: I believe, and now a third one, our Megan, we 689 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: feel like she was murdered. Now hear what Megan Oxendine's 690 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 1: mother has to say. It's something I wouldn't wish for 691 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:17,240 Speaker 1: anybody to go through, to have their child took from them. 692 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,760 Speaker 1: Nobody has the right to take him with this child 693 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: from my child came up here three three and a half, 694 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: four weeks ago, had been attacked. I let the officers, 695 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 1: two officers know that night. I don't know how much 696 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 1: you know, well, it was a little something she didn't 697 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 1: know who had something to do with it, ortially done it. 698 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 1: The FBI has now upped the offer on a reward. 699 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: There is a thirty thousand dollar reward for anyone with 700 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: information that helps investigators determine what happened to the three 701 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: most recent women found murdered in the small town of Lumberton, 702 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: North Carolina. And I'm referring to thirty two year old 703 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: Christina Bennett found inside an abandoned home, Rhonda Jones, thirty six, 704 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,879 Speaker 1: found outside home, both of them discovered on the very 705 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: same day. Megan oxende just twenty eight years old. The 706 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 1: three bodies, all found within a four block radius. A 707 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollar reward. Take a listen. The FBI is 708 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 1: announcing a reward of up to thirty thousand dollars for 709 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: inferm mean to determine the circumstances that led to the 710 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: deaths of Christina Bennett, Rhonda Jones, and Megan oxende Christina Bennett, 711 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 1: or as her family called her Kristen, was found deceased 712 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 1: inside a house on Petstree Street on April eighteen. Rhonda 713 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 1: Jones was found deceased outside a house on East fifth 714 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: three on the same day, that being April eighteenth, and 715 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:10,240 Speaker 1: Megan Oxendine was found deceized outside of house on East 716 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 1: eighth Street on June three. Their deaths are suspicious, but 717 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 1: in part because of the close proximity of when and 718 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 1: where their bodies were found. We're not going to elaborate 719 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,479 Speaker 1: further to protect the integrity and the investigation, but rest 720 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 1: assured that law enforcement officers in this case are working 721 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 1: hard to determine how these women died, but we need 722 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 1: your help. Investigators are asking anyone who came in contact 723 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 1: with these women to come forward. We believe it metis 724 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 1: community have information that can assist us in creating a 725 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 1: timeline of when and where they were last seen alive. 726 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 1: No piece of information is too on. You may think 727 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 1: that what you know is not important. We asked that 728 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: you not make that decision yourself. Please call us, let 729 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 1: us to let us determine whether that information is relevant 730 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 1: or healthful. Anyone with information should call FBI Charlotte at 731 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: seven oh four six seven two six zero zero and 732 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,359 Speaker 1: then head option number two again. That's seven oh four 733 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 1: six seven to number two. Every part of our work 734 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: is law enforcem benefits from the help we received from 735 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 1: the public. We need the community's assistance, the people's eye 736 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 1: ear information from friends and neighbors. We asked that you 737 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call us. Tell us what 738 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 1: you know, what you heard, and what you saw. The 739 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: FBI has committed committed to assisting our law enforcement part 740 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: nurse at the lumber Lumberton Police Department to determine what 741 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 1: happened to these women. We owe it to each of 742 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: these three women, We owe it to their families, We 743 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,240 Speaker 1: owe it to this community to put together the pieces 744 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 1: of that puzzle and to provide the answers of what 745 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 1: happened to them. Tip Line nine one zero, six, seven, 746 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:25,919 Speaker 1: one three eight four or five. Repeat tip Line six 747 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 1: seven one three eight four five. Nancy Grace Crime Stories, 748 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 1: signing off goodbye friend,