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Speaker 1: Kesha and the Creepies is a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: It would basically just be that on her birthday, she

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Speaker 1: doesn't want her to be sad because it feels like

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Speaker 1: there's this death date in this birthday. And you know

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Speaker 1: how the sun and the moon are generally around within

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Speaker 1: a twenty four hour period, there's something about that of

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Speaker 1: like that symbolism there. So see, this is something for

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Speaker 1: the skeptics in the room that I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: So there's no possible way that you would notice. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to Kesha and the Creepies. I am so excited.

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Speaker 1: I am ecstatic, I am nervous, I am feeling all

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Speaker 1: the feelings to have my next guest with us, Tyler Henry.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming up my podcast. Well,

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Speaker 1: of course, yes, I wouldn't have missed it. I'm so

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Speaker 1: excited for the opportunity. Where do you even be in

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Speaker 1: with you? I just I'm so curious about your brain

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Speaker 1: and who you are and how you came about your gift. Basically,

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Speaker 1: you know this started for me when I was actually

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Speaker 1: only ten years old. Um. I grew up in a

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Speaker 1: pretty conservative Christian household. We didn't really talk about spirits

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Speaker 1: or ghosts or that kind of thing. But one night

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Speaker 1: when I was ten, I woke up and I had

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Speaker 1: this knowingness that my grandmother was going to pass away.

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Speaker 1: And at the time, it really just kind of felt

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Speaker 1: like a memory that hadn't happened yet, and it was

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Speaker 1: really confusing, and so I went into the room to

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Speaker 1: and as I was telling her, I didn't tell her

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Speaker 1: how I knew. UM. Basically, the phone ring and we

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Speaker 1: were receiving the news there that my grandmother had just

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Speaker 1: taken her final breath from my dad. So that was

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Speaker 1: really kind of the catalyst. But at ten years old,

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Speaker 1: it's really something that happens to you. It's not really

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Speaker 1: something you identify as an ability, and so it took

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Speaker 1: some time to kind of step into it. Are you

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Speaker 1: still finding yourself stepping into it totally? I think every reading,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's some element of risk. I think in

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Speaker 1: my job, you know, validation is so important. It's important

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Speaker 1: that when I sit with someone, they hear information that

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Speaker 1: there's no way I could know specifics details, intimate things, um.

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Speaker 1: And so with that comes a lot of expectation. And

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Speaker 1: I know, as you know, performer, you can relate to

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Speaker 1: people having expectations. So I have to kind of find

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Speaker 1: a way to put that to the side when I

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Speaker 1: go intough reading and just kind of be a clear

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Speaker 1: conduit for information. Do you ever have one that just

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Speaker 1: doesn't connect. There's times we're all connect more than others.

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Speaker 1: I've had some readings that were admittedly pretty difficult, like

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Speaker 1: with him, but I read him, and he was a

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Speaker 1: challenge because he came into it, you know, pretty intense.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think there's something for everybody in

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Speaker 1: And I've also read a lot of skeptics. I think

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Speaker 1: really the proof is in the pudding. It's really about

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Speaker 1: the details, the specifics, the information that UM often relates

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Speaker 1: of different terminology with what you do and your gifts

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Speaker 1: and kind of your power, your light work. I don't

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Speaker 1: know exactly what you want to call it, but is

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Speaker 1: it difficult when you can't physically see the person or

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Speaker 1: of their Internet is complete ship like mine. You know,

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Speaker 1: stuff still comes through. I I could still, you know,

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Speaker 1: do what I do. So it's actually been interesting in

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Speaker 1: sometimes confuse it with anxiety because I very much have

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Speaker 1: So like when did your grandmother pass? My grandmother passed

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Speaker 1: and as difficult as this time is, I think it

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00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 1: also does present not to be hokey, but some opportunities

431
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: for gratitude. I mean, if we're here, we're alive, and

432
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 1: unfortunately there's so many people that can't say that, you know,

433
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 1: I'm just in this past year, Um, you know, so

434
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 1: many people have passed. So I just kind of try

435
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: to be positive with it. I am able to still

436
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: do work, you know, from a distance. I do a

437
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: lot of Skype readings, and um, it's just kind of

438
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 1: a different application of my ability. But it's fun and

439
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: it's always kind of interesting to see how it goes.

440
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 1: And I just I never know what's going to come

441
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 1: out of my mouth, and so it's kind of one

442
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: of those interesting situations where I have to really trust

443
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: myself what I feel, because it's my job really isn't me.

444
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 1: It's dependent entirely on things I can't really see, so

445
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: I have to just assume no company for me. Does

446
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 1: it ever make you nervous every time? Anymore? Always? Always yes?

447
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: And you know, I think there's something to be said

448
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: though about that anxiety. I think that anxiety is almost initiatory,

449
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 1: and I think it's almost like a stage fright. If

450
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 1: you have a little stage fright, it means you care,

451
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 1: means that you're read your mind, that you know. So

452
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: I think there's value there. And if we can view

453
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: anxiety as excitement, you know, that's a good way to

454
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: frame it. But I think it's normal and natural, and

455
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: I would argue even necessary to succeed. I like love

456
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: hearing you say that, because these are things that I

457
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: talk about with some of my closest friends, because I

458
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 1: always get so nervous before I go on stage, and sometimes,

459
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: like I don't know, if you're familiar with a song

460
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: I did called praying Okay, so I hit this very

461
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: high note that honestly, I just opened my mouth and

462
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,239
Speaker 1: I would just pray it there, Like I just like

463
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 1: I have no control over knowing what is going to

464
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: come out because it's in this like crazy high part

465
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 1: of my brain where you just have to open your

466
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: mouth and let it out. But like, sometimes it sounds

467
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 1: really cute and sometimes it does not, So like I

468
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 1: just kind of feel like, as you're talking, I can

469
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: relate in. Sometimes singing is a little bit like that too,

470
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: where you're like, I don't know what if it's going

471
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: to come out good, or what's gonna come out at all. Totally,

472
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: you just got to trust the process. Do you ever sing? Oh?

473
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: You know, and maybe in the shower, but beyond that

474
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: it's not my skill set. Maybe one day drop an album,

475
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that'd be You know what, if you

476
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: can't sing, you can always like, I'm sure you're a

477
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: good writer. I imagine you're a good writer. Thank you.

478
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: I try. I mean so so poetry. Okay, So I

479
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 1: had one question I wanted to ask you, and then

480
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to circle back to something that I was

481
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: asking you. But then I just realized that you were

482
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: right about my grandmother and my aunt. I'm very excited

483
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 1: to tell me aunt because I love that. Yeah, and

484
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 1: she's just a very emotional creature and I love her

485
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: very much and I feel like a Jackas for not

486
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: remembering her birth, It's all good. It's psychic andesia. It

487
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: happens all the time. And if you at any point

488
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: ever want to talk private, be happy to do that

489
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: as well. So I'm just saying the offers. I would

490
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 1: love to do that. I would love to do that

491
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm sure we could just go so

492
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: deep totally, especially if we were like socially distanced six

493
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: ft apart. Definitely, I feel like the room might explode

494
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 1: something to glitter. Yes, well that's how I hope I go. Um.

495
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,959
Speaker 1: So when he was showing me that text, you were

496
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: talking about religion and having it almost be like a

497
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: like a community. So for me going to church when

498
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: I was growing up, it was like I would go

499
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: and I would cry, and I would be on my

500
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: knees and I'd be like, I just don't believe in this.

501
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: I want to. I want to so bad. And that's

502
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: where I had my first kiss, was outside of this

503
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: like super church in Nashville, and I just like spirituality

504
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 1: was always so important. I just wanted to believe that

505
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: there was something other than me, because it's been so

506
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: exhausting to cling on to all this feeling like you

507
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: have to be in charge of everything. It's exhausting to

508
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: I had a really bizarre the thing happened during this

509
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: COVID time where I just it was like laying down

510
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: to go to sleep, and I went into full like

511
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: meditative hypnosis and this thing started speaking to me. And

512
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what you would call it. I have

513
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: an adversity to the word God because it has so

514
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: much baggage, but that's what it felt like, or a

515
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: higher your highest um like incarnation or highest consciousness of self.

516
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you would say that's one and

517
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: the same thing. It felt like it was just the

518
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: light of peace and just like being fully full of light.

519
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: And I had this amazing moment where I finally was like,

520
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: there it is. There's there, it is. I feel it,

521
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 1: I believe in it, I feel it, and I had

522
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: to feel it and have a full blown conversation with

523
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. And I'm like hesitant

524
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: to label it because because I do think religion can

525
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: be really beautiful, like you said, when it's used with compassion,

526
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: but also when it's used to turn people against each other.

527
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: That's when I get a little lost in the process

528
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: of that, and it's hard for me to reconcile. You know,

529
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: just how much death and negativity and hatred I've seen

530
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: in the name of something that's a personal, beautiful, spiritual connection.

531
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: Oh no, Yeah, I feel the same way. And I

532
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: feel like, that's so interesting that you had a firsthand

533
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: experience like that. I think so many mystical experiences are

534
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: are characterized as being ineffable, meaning that they kind of

535
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: transcend words, because I don't know if you feel that

536
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: way about what happened to you, but it's like words

537
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: often don't do justice the profound feelings that mystical experiences bring,

538
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: and I think there's something to be said about that. Yeah,

539
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: I really felt like The next day, I called my

540
00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: therapist and I was like, Okay, I'm having a psychological break.

541
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: It's happening. It's fully happening. And she was so lovely.

542
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: She was like, no, that's called a um like a

543
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: spiritual enlightenment. I was just kind of I was just

544
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: wondering if you've ever had an experience like that, or

545
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: is that kind of the world? Is that like what

546
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: you live in it's kind of whenever you're reading the

547
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: way you're describing, it's very much kind of the world

548
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: I live in. When I do readings, I'm having very

549
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: experiential moments where I'm feeling a lot, I'm picking up

550
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: on memories that are not my own. I'm I'm getting

551
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: sensations physically, mentally, emotionally, and input that I have to

552
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: kind of sift through and process, and it really does

553
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: transcend words. But I think those moments are so special

554
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: to honor and recognize. And I think oftentimes, you know,

555
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: people do a disservice to themselves by rationalizing things away,

556
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: sometimes to their detriment. And I think we can even

557
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: just look at all those times where you know, we

558
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: got a first impression about somebody and we didn't go

559
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: with it, and then we ended up, you know, being

560
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: proven correct, but indeed that first impression was accurate. Um,

561
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: we just have to honor those experiences for what they are.

562
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: I keep having like, as we're having this conversation, it's

563
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: really weird. I just have to mention it, yeah, because

564
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: my brain won't let me stop thinking about it. I

565
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: have a friend, Um, she's not a friend any longer.

566
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: She's still on earth, but she's no longer my friend,

567
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: and she was in my dream last night. And as

568
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: you were just saying that, I see both good and

569
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: also reasons why we can no longer be friends. I

570
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: wonder how you would say to manage people like that

571
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: in your life. Yeah, it's I think, you know, one

572
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: of the greatest acts of self love that we can

573
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: give to ourselves is having boundaries that are healthy, but

574
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: boundaries that we also stay firmed by. And so, you know,

575
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: I think there's something about honoring that aspect. And you know,

576
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: I think oftentimes when relationships go astray, or friendships or

577
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: you know, whether it be they romantic or platonic um,

578
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: you know, there's often a lot of kind of bridges

579
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: that have to be amended. And I think sometimes accepting

580
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: the apology we never receive is really valuable. So, you know,

581
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: people who always feel like things are dependent upon an apology,

582
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm kind of of the belief that, you know, you

583
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 1: may as well make yourself happy and lighten that burden

584
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: of you know, grudge or resentment by accepting the apology

585
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: you've never received. And in that I think we can

586
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: kind of move forward a little bit more gracefully. But

587
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, life doesn't come with a handbook. It's tricky.

588
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, I wish it did. I think that's

589
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: why we all make religions, so we could try to

590
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: think that we made the handbook. But I think we're

591
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: all just like kind of saying the same thing to

592
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: be kind and like do the right thing, and the

593
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: apology you never received. It's a really beautiful sentiment. You

594
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: might find that on one of my songs because it's

595
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: a really nice sentiment. Because I do think a lot

596
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: of times in life, the resentment you hold and then

597
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: the apology you wait for and then it turns into arid.

598
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: I feel like that's so it's just not healthy for yourself.

599
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: So in like, I don't know, just you're enlightened mind,

600
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: How how do we forgive? How do you? How do

601
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: you forgive without an apology? Sure? I mean I think

602
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: there's something about you know, accountability, recognizing what's yours to

603
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: take on and what's not. And there's kind of an

604
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: old Buddhist saying that goes something along the lines of, um,

605
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: you know, holding a grudge is ingesting poison and expecting

606
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: the other person to drop dead. And so yeah, there's

607
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: something about that really where I think it's true. I think,

608
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: you know, we do have to kind of, if not

609
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: do it for the other person, do it for yourself

610
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: first and foremostly, but everything circumstantial, and you know, we

611
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: have to process our emotions. I think it's important to

612
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: honor and grieve and mourn and you know, go through

613
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: those those emotions that separation creates, be it from death

614
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: or just from falling out with somebody. Um. So, I

615
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: think there's is like a big emphasis on being paul

616
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: sitive within spirituality, and I think we also, on the

617
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: other hand, need to avoid toxic positivity. I think you

618
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: see that a lot with like, oh, you know, it

619
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: could always be worse. And you know, there's certain sentiments

620
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: that you hear within spirituality that aren't healthy and I

621
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: would consider them to fall into that category of toxic positivity.

622
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: So just that because I find myself in a place

623
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: where like if I wake up and I am sad

624
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: or mad or whatever the mood that it's not positive,

625
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: I'll just be kind of like mean to myself in

626
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: this like toxically positive way, being like bitch, no, we

627
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: get the funk happy. And sometimes it's like it's a

628
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: little disregarding of your emotions. So I've never really heard

629
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: of toxic positivity before. Yes, it's I always say, if

630
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: you wouldn't tell it to a friend, why would you

631
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: tell it to yourself. So, you know, generally, we we

632
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: are a lot harder on ourselves than we are to

633
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: other people, and especially people we love. We always so

634
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: it's okay, there's a reason. And you know, we were

635
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: very compassionate to people we care about, but we often

636
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: don't extend that same compassion to ourselves. So that's how

637
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: I try to live, you know, to some extent. But again,

638
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: everybody's a work in progress. Oh my god, preach. When

639
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: I had this crazy spiritual kind of like psychedelic but

640
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: was not on drugs, situation, experience, whatever you wanna call it,

641
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: reincarnation came up a lot like for me, and I

642
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Speaker 1: was curious if your take on that or just your thoughts. Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 1: You know, I do find that reincarnation is referred to

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Speaker 1: in readings, and you know, people sometimes have a hard

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Speaker 1: time grasping it. You know, when we die, do we

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Speaker 1: turn into a bird and then when the bird dies

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Speaker 1: it just turned into a person or how does that work? Um?

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Speaker 1: I view really any state of existence as an incarnation.

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Speaker 1: So before you were born, you were experiencing a different incarnation.

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Speaker 1: When you die, even if you're not necessarily coming back

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Speaker 1: to this realm, that too, in my opinion, would be

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Speaker 1: a different incarnation. Um. We kind of go through these

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Speaker 1: little like phases that we may call them lifetimes or

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Speaker 1: different kind of states of consciousness, but I think they're

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Speaker 1: ever changing, ever evolving, ever growing, and so you know, generally,

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Speaker 1: I find that most of what gets referred to from

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Speaker 1: the other side is this understanding of a collective consciousness,

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Speaker 1: the idea that we are kind of all different fingers

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Speaker 1: on the same hand. So you know, you might be

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Speaker 1: the thumb, I might be the pinky, but we're connected

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Speaker 1: to the same general you know, the thing, and so everybody,

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Speaker 1: you know, being different manifestations of this collective makes reincarnation

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Speaker 1: a lot more digestible, and in understanding that we literally

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Speaker 1: might be reflections of ourselves. Um, I think reincarnation gets

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Speaker 1: tricky because it is kind of limited to a very

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Speaker 1: linear framework. So we have you know, we think of all,

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Speaker 1: we had a lifetime in the sixteen hundreds, then maybe

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Speaker 1: a lifetime in the seventeen hundreds and so on and

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Speaker 1: so forth. But it may surpass that. I mean, who's

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Speaker 1: to say we don't have lifetimes all at different time periods,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe we've had future lives. Who knows, um,

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Speaker 1: But I certainly think it's a it's a complex subject

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Speaker 1: but definitely real and and I think just for because

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Speaker 1: that we all need to be kinder to each other,

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Speaker 1: because we're reflections of each other. So true. I love

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Speaker 1: talking to you likewise, um, because that's like kind of

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Speaker 1: how I like, I try to express that you just

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Speaker 1: said it so much more eloquently express this sweet it's

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00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: so true though, Um, I like spend my day's writing

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Speaker 1: songs about this, trying to figure out different ways to

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Speaker 1: say it, and like I have a song called die Young.

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Speaker 1: Then you are, we Are, and then there's praying, and

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Speaker 1: then there's raising hell, and it's kind of all circling

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Speaker 1: around this whole concept of life and what's the point

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Speaker 1: of it and being kind and being in the moment

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Speaker 1: and being yourself and leading with positivity. But then I

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Speaker 1: also think you're absolutely right, you can't be overly positive

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Speaker 1: because that's just that's not real and it's not totally true.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's like, I don't know, I feel

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Speaker 1: like I needed to hear that one to. I love it.

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Speaker 1: It's an honor to give. Yeah, it's something I really appreciate.

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Speaker 1: When I was watching your show, which I love, Thank you. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I have to know is there a new season coming?

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Speaker 1: Are we not allowed to know yet? I'm actually working

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Speaker 1: on a new series, so I'm really excited it's in

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Speaker 1: the works. And I'm actually having a second book coming

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Speaker 1: out here and hereafter and a lot of fun staff

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Speaker 1: all around the bed. I read that. Yeah, okay, so

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Speaker 1: when does your book come out? That's looking inflated from

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Speaker 1: may beautiful congratulation. Thank you so much. Your show is

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Speaker 1: next season is next year? That's right, so yep, should

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Speaker 1: be should be coming out then, Oh my gosh, okay, great,

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Speaker 1: well I will be watching. I always watched. I was

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Speaker 1: watching last night and and saying her name wrong. That

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Speaker 1: so dramatic, so intense watching it, you could just feel

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Speaker 1: the energy and like pain and release and just totally

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Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, it was an example so much energy happening.

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Speaker 1: For sure. You never know what's going to come through.

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Speaker 1: So in her case, you know, she was really I

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Speaker 1: think hesitant or a little reluctant to connect, and she

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Speaker 1: kind of got up in the middle of our reading

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Speaker 1: and said, you know what, I'm good this is. This

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Speaker 1: has done it for me, and you know, she needed

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Speaker 1: some time to process. And so I've kind of learned

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Speaker 1: with my work that like shock has many faces. Some

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Speaker 1: people burst into tears crying, other people become very stoic,

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Speaker 1: and some people need to just kind of take a

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Speaker 1: minute for themselves. But the goal is really just to

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Speaker 1: facilitate healing in one way or another. But it can

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Speaker 1: be pretty surprising for people. This has been like the

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Speaker 1: loveliest conversation. I really appreciate it genuinely. Me too. And

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Speaker 1: if you have any other burning things, like there's some

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Speaker 1: sort of something for you, can tell me a bit

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Speaker 1: we'll do. Yeah. I definitely will be in touch and

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Speaker 1: I give you both an update. I was texting with

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Speaker 1: our aunt Sonia, and she said that well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: she said thank you for passing on the message, but

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Speaker 1: she also said that she was you know, the day

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Speaker 1: that our grandmother died, she was was was sorry. The

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Speaker 1: day she was picking out coffins on her birthday basically

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Speaker 1: on the seventh, and her birthday was on the sixth

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Speaker 1: and so on her birthday, she was like, at the

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Speaker 1: coffin store. Wow, thank you for that validation. That makes sense,

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Speaker 1: but I'm glad that at least was able to deliver that.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I want to cry and see it

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Speaker 1: all comes full circle. Thank you for that information. You

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Speaker 1: have no idea. It's probably going to be such a

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Speaker 1: weight listed. It's all good. We'll talk again. I appreciate it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much Tyler Henry for being on my

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Speaker 1: podcast Here the Ship. Likewise, love to you. Thank you, Okaye,

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Speaker 1: your wan woe