Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. Hi you guys,
Speaker 1: So we just had a big holiday. It was Father's Day, yay.
Speaker 2: But you know, I have a question about that. So
Speaker 2: Daddy's everywhere.
Speaker 1: We love you so much. But I gotta say I
Speaker 1: kind of feel like, as a single mom of five
Speaker 1: now in my household, I'm kind of the daddy now too,
Speaker 1: So I feel like I should have been celebrated for
Speaker 1: the father the daddy I am, but I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: put that on my kids. They were quite happy celebrating
Speaker 1: their father. But Father's Day is such a great day.
Speaker 1: And and I know, like my little guy Bo who's eight,
Speaker 1: is always like what's the next holiday? He literally he's
Speaker 1: a time guy, totally not my son in that respect,
Speaker 1: and he's like a planner, not my kid in that respect.
Speaker 2: But creatively he's all me.
Speaker 1: But he will always be like, you know, mom, I
Speaker 1: need to know, like what is the next holiday coming
Speaker 1: up in the year. And you know there's the massive holidays.
Speaker 1: You know, there's Christmas and there's well, gosh, well, we
Speaker 1: celebrate all holidays basically, so you know, in winter, we
Speaker 1: celebrate Christmas, but we also celebrate Hanukkah because my side
Speaker 1: of the family were Jewish, but growing up even we
Speaker 1: always celebrated both holidays during you know, wintertime because my
Speaker 1: parents believed it wasn't from a religious standpoint, it was
Speaker 1: from a family celebrating getting together and being together and
Speaker 1: learning about different holidays together.
Speaker 2: I loved that, so I really took that to.
Speaker 1: Heart when I was raising my kids. So we celebrate Easter,
Speaker 1: we celebrate Passover, we sell you know, everything. So Bo
Speaker 1: was very much like, he was like, so there's Mother's Day.
Speaker 1: So in our house, here's the holiday timeline. It was
Speaker 1: Mother's Day, then it was my birthday, then it was
Speaker 1: Stella's birthday. And then he was like, what's the next holiday.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I should call it something else.
Speaker 1: It's not like a holiday. Well, it can be a
Speaker 1: holiday a to us birth our birthdays. But I was like,
Speaker 1: it's Father's Day. So anyway we as a family celebrate
Speaker 1: it with Dean because I don't know, it's Father's Day,
Speaker 1: it's your day. But he and I in that respect.
Speaker 1: You know, there's different for moms, like you know, on
Speaker 1: Mother's Day, some moms are like, you know, I want
Speaker 1: my partner to take the kids. I want the day off,
Speaker 1: I want to go get a massage. I'm not that mom.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is all about them, which is so
Speaker 1: very tory, like it's all about everyone else, not about me,
Speaker 1: But it's the truth in my brain. So for Mother's Day,
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like whatever the kids want
Speaker 1: to do. And it was really cute, like the kids
Speaker 1: wanted to grill. I'm a great cook. I'm a great
Speaker 1: like I'm a d iy home chef. I call myself
Speaker 1: great baker, not a grill master. And that was one
Speaker 1: of the things that Dean is really great at grilling.
Speaker 2: So when we did separate households.
Speaker 1: And that was the one thing that kids would be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, we're used to, you know, grilling burgers and
Speaker 1: grilling steaks and the grill and you know, hot dogs
Speaker 1: and stuff and going to the pool on weekends. And
Speaker 1: I was just like, ooh, now I have to be gosh,
Speaker 1: single mom. Now I'm becoming a daddy in my household,
Speaker 1: and now I have to become a grill master. The
Speaker 1: grill used to be the bane of my existence. But
Speaker 1: I am happy to report anyone that knows me well
Speaker 1: knows that, like I was like, I can make anything,
Speaker 1: but I had like an.
Speaker 2: Aversion to the grill. I was always like.
Speaker 1: Oh, no, no, no, I don't know anything about grilling.
Speaker 1: Dean does that, Dad does that. But you know in
Speaker 1: my house, you know, I now am for everything. So
Speaker 1: I've officially learned a grill. I am pretty good at it.
Speaker 2: I learned really quickly, thank you too.
Speaker 1: Of course, you know, I had to get like the
Speaker 1: apron just because I'm not girl. Thank you Etsy. It
Speaker 1: says grill me daddy instead of calling me daddy. Grilled
Speaker 1: me daddy, and I wore that. It was really cute.
Speaker 1: It also made me reflect on my dad because I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, I am a self professed
Speaker 1: daddy's girl.
Speaker 2: Which I feel like is a whole different meeting nowadays. Yeah,
Speaker 2: growing up, I was like, my dad's my hero. I'm
Speaker 2: a daddy's girl. I'm a daddy's girl.
Speaker 1: And now you have to be careful when you say
Speaker 1: you're a daddy's girl, because people are it can mean
Speaker 1: something completely different if you know, you know. And it
Speaker 1: was interesting because my son, who was in first grade,
Speaker 1: he had his class party and it was the end
Speaker 1: of the year, and this was a few days before
Speaker 1: Father's Day, and I took my teens with me to
Speaker 1: his class party. Dean was working, he couldn't go. I
Speaker 1: went and took two of my teens and we're in
Speaker 1: the class and we're helping both make cupcakes and a
Speaker 1: crown hat and all this. And there's this little first
Speaker 1: grader and it says daddy's girl. She's a daddy's girl.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I was a daddy's girl growing up. Like
Speaker 1: it's so funny that now, like everybody like, oh, your daddy,
Speaker 1: like call me daddy.
Speaker 2: You know. It's just like it's a whole different.
Speaker 1: Sexual connotation now, but interesting, But growing up, I was
Speaker 1: a total daddy's girl.
Speaker 2: My dad was my hero, still is my hero. And
Speaker 2: I just remember.
Speaker 1: Always Father's Day like we and he was like that too.
Speaker 1: My mom and dad were the same, like on Mother's Day.
Speaker 1: On Father's Day, they didn't say like, oh, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go do my own thing and it's my day. They
Speaker 1: were like, whatever the kids want to do. So this man,
Speaker 1: who was such a workaholic, worked such crazy hours during
Speaker 1: the week and on the weekends, he would always be like,
Speaker 1: whatever you guys.
Speaker 2: Want, I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm so him.
Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, so growing up and it's no longer there,
Speaker 1: but it was like his I've talked about it before
Speaker 1: on the podcast. A historical like restaurant landmark of like
Speaker 1: Hollywood Royalty called Chasin's and it was like I don't
Speaker 1: even know when it started, like in the twenties or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It was there forever.
Speaker 1: And when they shut it down it's now a Bristol Farms.
Speaker 1: There was like mega. People were like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: freaking out. But that was like our jam. Like I
Speaker 1: grew up going there every Sunday night. We would go
Speaker 1: for dinner and it was like fancy but like and
Speaker 1: every Hollywood star would just like walk through, walk through
Speaker 1: and come up to the table and talk to my dad.
Speaker 1: And if I could go back in time and be
Speaker 1: my age now and like do it now, I'd be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, like, oh, I'd get selfies with all
Speaker 1: of them. But yeah, so Chasin's was a big thing.
Speaker 1: And Chasin's Chili. It was like a fancy, fancy restaurant
Speaker 1: and they had My dad went there so often that
Speaker 1: they had something called a Steak Diane and you can
Speaker 1: look it up like it's a certain sauce that you
Speaker 1: put on a steak and the way they make it,
Speaker 1: but he.
Speaker 2: Like altered it just a little bit for what he liked, so.
Speaker 1: It was called a steak aaron, so it would I
Speaker 1: would liken it too. How In and Out has a
Speaker 1: secret menu and like if you know, you know, and
Speaker 1: you can be like, you know, ps, I'll have that
Speaker 1: animal style, but it's like not on the menu. Well,
Speaker 1: my dad like coined that shit, like in the seventies,
Speaker 1: Like so if you knew about it, and like you know,
Speaker 1: of course he would tell all his stars like, oh,
Speaker 1: you should try it this way, and they'd be like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: So it became super famous.
Speaker 1: I have to find the recipe. It's somewhere online, I bet.
Speaker 1: But it became super famous and people would come in
Speaker 1: and be like, not on the menu, but I'll have
Speaker 1: the steak erin and the you know, they would be
Speaker 1: like gotcha, and they knew about it. So that was
Speaker 1: a big thing. But I was a kid, so I
Speaker 1: need steak aaron. But the chili. They were known for
Speaker 1: their chili, which is so funny because you would have
Speaker 1: like mater D's and waiters and waitresses dressed.
Speaker 2: In like black almost black tie service.
Speaker 1: And they were serving like a comfort food chuli.
Speaker 2: But it was the best chili over God. Anyway.
Speaker 1: I loved it so much that we went there on
Speaker 1: Father's Day for sure every year.
Speaker 2: But we would also play this game because.
Speaker 1: My dad and I very like creative, like visionaries, like
Speaker 1: you know, and kids want to do like make believe
Speaker 1: and play this, and most kids are like, I want
Speaker 1: to play make believe and I you know, you're you know,
Speaker 1: you're the prince and I'm the princess, and like you know,
Speaker 1: or a fairy tale or like silly things like your
Speaker 1: Monster's coming to get me.
Speaker 2: No. I've always been a foodie.
Speaker 1: So my favorite thing to do, and we would do
Speaker 1: this on the weekends is we would get in our
Speaker 1: jacuzzi at our house and I'd be like, Okay, we're
Speaker 1: going to play Chasins and my dad would pretend to
Speaker 1: be a patron coming into Chasins.
Speaker 2: I would take his order.
Speaker 1: And I'd be like can I get you this? And
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, sir, I know you regular customer.
Speaker 1: You want the off the menu steak erin And He's like,
Speaker 1: why yes, please, And I'd be like great, to start with,
Speaker 1: would you would you like to start with a Caesar
Speaker 1: salad or a cup of our famous chili. Like it
Speaker 1: was just such a funny thing for like a five
Speaker 1: six year old to be playing at the pool with
Speaker 1: her father. But yeah, we would go on and on
Speaker 1: and play Chasins for days. I'd have friends over and
Speaker 1: they'd be like, what's this Chasen's Like, we just want
Speaker 1: to like do backflips off the diving board. I know
Speaker 1: there's no diving boards anymore. Those were dangerous, but it
Speaker 1: was like the seventies and eighties. Anyway, we would do
Speaker 1: that or this was like a big thing on our weekends.
Speaker 1: And you know, father says always on a Sunday, So
Speaker 1: I'm just likening this. Two things we would do on
Speaker 1: the weekends is and it was always around the pool
Speaker 1: because we had a great pool and my dad loved
Speaker 1: relaxing at the pool and I loved doing that with him.
Speaker 1: So I would run to his briefcase and grab one
Speaker 1: of his scripts, or my mom had all of his
Speaker 1: like already made scripts like that were like TV series, movies,
Speaker 1: movies of the week, all leather bound in the entire room.
Speaker 1: So I would grab one of those and like come
Speaker 1: to the pool and be like I'll be the lead female,
Speaker 1: you be the lead male, and yeah, we would like
Speaker 1: read through his script and then I'd give notes and
Speaker 1: he'd always be like that is a good idea.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay.
Speaker 1: He always listened to me. That's what's crazy. Like I
Speaker 1: used to I used to watch movies and even kids movies,
Speaker 1: and from the time I could start writing, I would
Speaker 1: always take into the movies.
Speaker 2: Well, we had a movie theater at our house. Don't
Speaker 2: judge me, you can judge me.
Speaker 1: But even when I went out to the movies, I
Speaker 1: would always take a little pad and I would always
Speaker 1: take a little pencil because every time I watched a movie,
Speaker 1: I would wait for the credits and I would write
Speaker 1: down actors, actresses, even kids that I saw in a movie,
Speaker 1: even people that had like two lines, but I was like,
Speaker 1: they'd be good. And I'd write down things, and i'd
Speaker 1: bring it home to my dad like an offering. Like
Speaker 1: you know, most kids, like you know, they make like
Speaker 1: painted rocks and like scribbles and hand them to their
Speaker 1: parents and be like, look what I made you. I'd
Speaker 1: come home with like a casting list always, like starting
Speaker 1: back when I was five, I'm not kidding, and I'd
Speaker 1: be like, oh, how was the movie.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh, the movie was great, but I
Speaker 2: just found you somebody. Anyway.
Speaker 1: We know how that all progress because you know, we've
Speaker 1: talked about and Jason's talked about and Shannon talked about it.
Speaker 1: How I had suggested them for nine oh two and zero,
Speaker 1: but I would do that and like Emma Sam's for
Speaker 1: Dynasty Colby's anyway. But yeah, it's just so funny to
Speaker 1: think of the relationship we had at such a young age,
Speaker 1: going back to talking about a daddy's girl and you
Speaker 1: think of a little girl, I'm thinking of this first
Speaker 1: grader going back that I saw sitting there with a
Speaker 1: Daddy's Girl t shirt on in first grade, and it's like, gosh,
Speaker 1: the things my brain was doing in the first grade,
Speaker 1: like just creating. Like he and I were just so
Speaker 1: aligned on that and that was really our thing. Like
Speaker 1: my dad was not the guy, like he didn't want
Speaker 1: to hear about boys. He didn't want to hear. You know,
Speaker 1: I would talk to my mom about that, but he
Speaker 1: didn't want to hear. Probably why Donna Martin State of
Speaker 1: virgin for eight seasons, like not probably I'm sure why,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you know, we would always talk about creatively
Speaker 1: creating things and what that would look like and I
Speaker 1: don't know, and I really I really value that and
Speaker 1: I think kids sometimes are not undervalued. But it's a
Speaker 1: different dynamic. And we think our kids like stay in
Speaker 1: their lane like they're kids, they're young, they don't know,
Speaker 1: and it's like if we really listen to our kids,
Speaker 1: like really listen to them, I think, no matter what
Speaker 1: workplace we're in, we'll learn stuff. And I think my
Speaker 1: dad was really good at that. He you know, he
Speaker 1: didn't treat me. He treated me like a kid like
Speaker 1: you know, but he also treated me like a valued
Speaker 1: human that had it that it was smart, that you know,
Speaker 1: was creative, that had something to offer. And I think
Speaker 1: to some degree that's why I talk a lot about
Speaker 1: this about my confidence. And I think on a personal level,
Speaker 1: my confidence, I'm working on that and it's trying to feel
Speaker 1: better about that. But on a business level, I am
Speaker 1: like super confident. And you know, I always say like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm always like I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: not worth anything. I don't feel good about myself, my looks,
Speaker 1: my but you get me in a business room, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I will rule that room. I will go
Speaker 1: in and I will know exactly what I'm doing. I
Speaker 1: am super kind because that's the only thing I know
Speaker 1: to do. And my dad was super kind, like he
Speaker 1: led with his heart but ruled with his brain, if
Speaker 1: that makes sense, and that's what I do. And I
Speaker 1: don't know, just feeling like nostalgic and really grateful for him.
Speaker 1: Like growing up, my dad was like everything literally like
Speaker 1: summer vacations. Other kids wanted to go to camp, other
Speaker 1: kids wanted to, you know, do different things. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to go to work with my dad, like take
Speaker 1: your kid to work day. That was like my summers.
Speaker 1: And I would like literally hide under his desk. He
Speaker 1: would have like a massive office with executives.
Speaker 2: In all the time.
Speaker 1: I'm you know, stars and Starlet's coming in and out.
Speaker 2: It was like everything.
Speaker 1: But as a five year old, I was just like
Speaker 1: I knew, like I knew there was like a higher
Speaker 1: purpose for me. And I was like, yeah, I just
Speaker 1: want to lay under his desk and listen. So I'd
Speaker 1: be like that's I'm just going to lay here, and
Speaker 1: he was. He had a hard time saying no to me.
Speaker 1: I would like, bat my eyes, my big brown eyes,
Speaker 1: which are getting smaller now because they're sinking in because
Speaker 1: I'm fifty two.
Speaker 2: But when I was little, oh my god, not proportioned.
Speaker 1: So I was like this tiny, little like girl with
Speaker 1: these huge, like et brown eyes. With those eyes got
Speaker 1: me everything. I would bat my eyes and be like Dad, please,
Speaker 1: and he'd be like, okay, okay, just be quiet. I
Speaker 1: have really important meetings. Like there's like network executives.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: This is like when I was little. He was at
Speaker 1: ABC predominantly, and they would all joke he would sell
Speaker 1: so many series to ABC that they like off the record,
Speaker 1: titled it Aaron's Broadcasting Company. My dad's name is Aaron
Speaker 1: Aaron spelling, so you know. And he had on like
Speaker 1: Fancy Island and.
Speaker 2: Love Bowed and Charlie s.
Speaker 1: It was like everything right during that era. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I would be under his desk and I would just listen,
Speaker 1: and I feel like my little brain was just like
Speaker 1: taking in so much. I definitely felt like for what
Speaker 1: I wanted to go into in life, and it was
Speaker 1: very different back then. Like now, our kids decide what
Speaker 1: they want to be at a young age. We see
Speaker 1: if you know they're creative, they're academic if they you know,
Speaker 1: and we kind of go with that flow. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I was born in nineteen seventy three. Like when I
Speaker 1: went to school, it was like it wasn't talked about,
Speaker 1: like like you're five, like what do you want to
Speaker 1: be when you grow up? But you know, I my
Speaker 1: little brain like knew something. I knew that I was like, well,
Speaker 1: they say that apple doesn't fall far from the tree,
Speaker 1: and it's really true.
Speaker 2: Like I have a producer's brain.
Speaker 1: I literally go through life kind of seeing everything that
Speaker 1: happens in my life and everybody else's life through a
Speaker 1: producer's lens, like through a TV lens. It's kind of wild.
Speaker 1: It's a wild place in my brain. It's kind of
Speaker 1: fun to pick my brain sometimes if you ever have
Speaker 1: the chance in person. But yeah, I feel like I
Speaker 1: just took in so much intel and knowledge that it
Speaker 1: was like I subconsciously it wasn't talked about, but I
Speaker 1: knew what I wanted to be.
Speaker 2: Like did I want to be an actress?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Am I an actress?
Speaker 1: Yes? Do I love making people happy and smile and
Speaker 1: you know, take them out of their day to day
Speaker 1: by you know, giving them joy I watching, well, you
Speaker 1: would gather on your TV and watch in the living room.
Speaker 1: Now everyone's like, I'm watching it from my phone, I'm
Speaker 1: watching it from my laptop whatever. It's still about taking
Speaker 1: the outside and kind of minimizing that chaos that they're
Speaker 1: going through in the hard lives they're leading and whatever
Speaker 1: is going on in the world, and still giving them
Speaker 1: pure joy, entertainment and escapism. And that was my dad's goals.
Speaker 1: He's like even then, he'd be like, you know what,
Speaker 1: people have really hard days, Like they want to come home,
Speaker 1: they want to be you know, with their family and
Speaker 1: be able to gather around and watch TV. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 1: you know he did shows like Dynasty. It wasn't family shows.
Speaker 1: There was adult viewing as well, but he was like,
Speaker 1: you know, they want an escapism.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, I just always learned that.
Speaker 1: And I'm still like climbing that hill and like kind
Speaker 1: of finding myself in my second chapter now. But I
Speaker 1: definitely I was gonna say, I hope I make my
Speaker 1: dad proud, but I actually know I make my dad proud,
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to be a version of him,
Speaker 1: Like you know, you kind of go with what the
Speaker 1: known is until you can make the unknown happen. And
Speaker 1: you know, what's the known? Like I'm a recognizable actress.
Speaker 1: I you know, got famous in the nineties, nine o
Speaker 1: two and oh Donna Martin, and so I always kind
Speaker 1: of put myself into things. But I can't wait one
Speaker 1: day to be like a full fledged producer like my dad,
Speaker 1: to you know, have my own production company, to be
Speaker 1: making things for other people to be in and I
Speaker 1: can just be behind the camera. I mean, let's face it,
Speaker 1: let's face and bodies. It's like, not gonna be young forever. Well,
Speaker 1: I guess it can be with all the plastic surgery
Speaker 1: out there nowadays, but I don't choose that. And I
Speaker 1: can't wait to be a version of him that everyone's
Speaker 1: like we knew it. We knew like she was like
Speaker 1: his mini me, am, and now I will be me
Speaker 1: but a version of my dad. This is this is
Speaker 1: all very I'm just like, I'm talking out of my
Speaker 1: brain right now.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's all my feels. Like I had
Speaker 2: all these feelings.
Speaker 1: Yesterday with Father's Day, like the first of the you know,
Speaker 1: viewing it from my kid's standpoint, But then I had
Speaker 1: you know, all those moments of being like thinking about
Speaker 1: my dad, really thinking.
Speaker 2: About my dad.
Speaker 1: And it was interesting because my dream I don't dream
Speaker 1: a lot. I'm not a big dreamer when they say
Speaker 1: we dream every night, so maybe I don't remember them,
Speaker 1: but anytime I do dream, they're very like I wish
Speaker 1: I could remember them, Like I last night, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I in my mind I.
Speaker 1: Wrote like the craziest coolest like series ever. I was like, God,
Speaker 1: if I could just wake up wait you guys, I
Speaker 1: saw this thing on Instagram. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: true that there's now a device that they're starting to
Speaker 1: put out there that can record your dreams.
Speaker 2: That's not even possible, right, Like that's just.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, but if there was a way,
Speaker 1: that would be great, because we can like wake up
Speaker 1: in the morning in journal and like write down our dreams.
Speaker 2: But my dreams aren't about like you know, they say, like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: If you lose teeth in your dreams, like you know,
Speaker 1: it means you have the fear of something. You mean,
Speaker 1: you know, there's so many different It used to be
Speaker 1: like deciphering your dreams. You could read books what dreams meant,
Speaker 1: but my dreams aren't like that, Like my dreams are
Speaker 1: complete creations, Like I could sit back with popcorn and
Speaker 1: be watching my dream and damn, I just like, why
Speaker 1: just the coolest like Netflix like limited series I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Damn, how do I get that out of
Speaker 1: my head? Because it's all just vision and put that
Speaker 1: into something. Anyway, I didn't find it a coincidence that
Speaker 1: I create this badass like series last night in my
Speaker 1: dream when it was Father's Day. So thank you Daddy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now I just have to figure out what it all
Speaker 1: means and how to make it into a hit show.
Speaker 2: Well, I hope everyone had a great Father's Day.
Speaker 1: And like I'm saying, you know, mom's out there, you
Speaker 1: can be the daddy in your household, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's all kind of blending now. And I love how
Speaker 1: the world is now that it's kind of limitless of
Speaker 1: what it can be. And I feel like one day, maybe,
Speaker 1: like maybe one day we should just have a Parent's Day.
Speaker 1: We could still have one in May, we could still
Speaker 1: have one in June.
Speaker 2: Great, but.
Speaker 1: You know, being a parent, you're kind of the best
Speaker 1: of both worlds all of that. Anyway, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: back to yesterday was my day as well well in
Speaker 1: my head. In my head, I celebrated my father who's
Speaker 1: in heaven but also somewhere deep down in my soul,
Speaker 1: and a text chain with my best friend Jess, because.
Speaker 2: If you ever saw our text.
Speaker 1: Chain me and Jess, it makes you smile. Anyway, I
Speaker 1: was very much like I should be celebrated today, and
Speaker 1: like I can only tell her this except by telling
Speaker 1: you guys this, but the days past, so it's okay,
Speaker 1: and I tell you guys everything. But yeah, so you
Speaker 1: know I was making jokes but I'll call me daddy.
Speaker 1: You know all that, la la la la.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was my day too.
Speaker 1: Pat on the back did well, grilled and yeah, Donna
Speaker 1: Martin daddy ates take that one.