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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, were come back on normally so normal it

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Speaker 1: takes for women news it gets weird post Thanksgiving officially

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Speaker 1: Christmas season.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mary Kevin Neil. I am Carol Markowitz, and I

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Speaker 2: love Christmas, so I'm very excited about this, although again

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Speaker 2: I think we talked about it on a previous episode

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Speaker 2: where the lights are all up all over South Florida

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Speaker 2: since like I don't know, Halloween and the Christmas music

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Speaker 2: last month, so I'm very happy about all of that.

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Speaker 2: The Christmas. I don't know people who hate Christmas. I

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Speaker 2: can't even imagine who that might be, might not be,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good time of year. It is, and

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Speaker 1: I usually start around Thanksgiving week. I try not to

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Speaker 3: But we have officially moved on.

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Speaker 1: Here and we have a tree I love it about

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Speaker 2: I also saw that you did a post over the

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Speaker 2: very very much. They tried to bring it to Jews,

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Speaker 2: it was like, I don't even know Rabbi on the whatever,

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Speaker 1: It's like, and it's the thing is, it's not even

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Speaker 1: I don't particularly like Elf on the shelf and some

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Speaker 3: However, I just think it's one of those things like I.

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Speaker 1: Want an extra daily duty of right making sure before

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Speaker 1: my kids are up to By the way, content warning

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Speaker 1: on this if you have kids listening. Yeah, but do

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Speaker 1: I want that on my plate giving. I'm doing plenty

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Speaker 1: of Christmas cheer without that, so feel free to leave something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're bringing the magic in other ways, I am

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Speaker 2: I appreciated that. I just I liked your overall point.

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Speaker 3: Yes, far more, far more than are doing it now.

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Speaker 2: It was a big news week actually while we were away.

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Speaker 2: The very sad story from the last few days is

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Speaker 2: Romanula La Khanawall shot specialist Sarah Begstrom and allegedly picked

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Speaker 2: Andrew Wolf remains in critical condition. It's a horrible story,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like he was a pretty highly vetted

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Speaker 3: Been through some of these processes.

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Speaker 1: And first of all, prayers for both of those families,

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Speaker 1: I think Wolf. There continue to be reports that Andy

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Speaker 1: So thank you to him. And then it's also made

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Speaker 1: It's also weird to say they're like they were here unnecessarily.

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Speaker 1: The presence has made things safe in the city, whether

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Speaker 3: Another in broad daylight. Like, perhaps we do have some things.

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Speaker 2: Yes, one or two things crime wise can be fixed

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and in my experience, just like unfailingly kind and

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Speaker 1: Trump of course is saying like I'm going to reevaluate

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Speaker 1: It cannot be denied that Biden skipped a bunch of

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Speaker 1: Also, I know personally Afghan families who made it out

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Speaker 2: Right all around. The border story and just the immigration

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Speaker 1: So these would have been if it happened, these would

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Speaker 1: The wreckage, sort of a double tap strike. Look, I'm

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Speaker 1: Like you sort of newly name somebody a terrorist threat

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Speaker 2: we're going to prosecute you. Harry Sisson, who is you know,

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Speaker 2: We don't know if they were guilty or not, who

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Speaker 2: didn't pose an immediate threat. Instead of prosecuting them, we'll

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Speaker 2: don't even specify a year. You could just say last

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Speaker 1: This is an interesting wrinkle in this where people are like,

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Speaker 1: Be right back, Oki joke Now on Normally, we traveled

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Speaker 2: Right, who said that? Yeah, the like, are you.

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Speaker 1: Not concerned that this record breaking fraud happened in your community?

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Speaker 1: When the fear of racism overrides the need to take

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Speaker 3: Walls. Of course, by the way, did you see you

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Speaker 2: Right right, Well, the Minnesota Department of Human Service employees

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Speaker 1: Lisa Damouth is the Republican and current Minnesota House speaker

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Speaker 1: He's overseen this success. So Sally forward and she of

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Speaker 2: And look, you know, conservatives are against government funding of

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Speaker 1: So here we are, and you also become a magnet

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Speaker 3: Well thanks for noticing New York Times.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty much this story. I know New York Times

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Speaker 3: What a week in our weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was watching, like, wow, what a Thanksgiving week

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Speaker 2: I really I was rooting for the Lions on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: Miss is a man named Lane Kiffin who has been

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Speaker 1: a head coach several places, and he's been at ole

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Speaker 1: Miss for about four or five years and done quite well.

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Speaker 1: And they have an eleven and one season and they're

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Speaker 1: about to go to the college football playoffs and have

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Speaker 1: a shot at the national championship.

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Speaker 3: But Lane Kiffin's looking around. He's like, where looking where

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Speaker 3: could I land? Could I land somewhere else for more money?

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Speaker 3: And so what he does is leave everybody in the

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Speaker 3: hook for a month covering the Lane Kiffin will he

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Speaker 3: won't his story, Yeah, while LSU and Florida woo him,

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Speaker 3: and over Thanksgiving weekend after ole Miss beats it in

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Speaker 3: state rival Mississippi State, he's like, I'll give you guys

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Speaker 3: an answer. I'll give you guys an answer, you know,

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Speaker 3: in a day.

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Speaker 1: And then again once again, everybody's on the hook following

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Speaker 1: the Lane kiffn story. At one point it escalates because

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Speaker 1: a podcaster about Miss football calls Lane Kiffin a hoe.

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Speaker 3: He says, well, he says, no, I should not say that.

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Speaker 1: Exactly what he did was expertly deploy a ludicrous lyric

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Speaker 1: learne of Lane Kiffen because he said, you can't make

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Speaker 1: a hoe into a housewife. Yea referring to the fact

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Speaker 1: that Lane Kiffin likes to jump around and that perhaps

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Speaker 1: he would was never meant to be a committed head

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Speaker 1: coach at all Miss Cold. So Lane Kiffin gets mad

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Speaker 1: about this, I think because it hit a little close

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Speaker 1: to home, confronts the podcaster in person at the in

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Speaker 1: state rivalry game, at which point the podcaster looked, frankly

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Speaker 1: pretty scared. I would have defended myself and been like, like,

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Speaker 1: my point is valid. You're gonna leave right.

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Speaker 3: My point is valid.

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Speaker 2: Not all podcasters are the same. Let's just talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Nonetheless, because there was a ludicrous lyric involved and sec football.

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Speaker 2: I can't action. Yeah, this story is made for Mary Catherine.

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Speaker 1: And Kiffin, it must be said, has left the NFL

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Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders' head coaching job in a fuss where the

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Speaker 1: owner called him a liar and that he was disrespecting

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Speaker 1: the institution. And he was like, no, I didn't do

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Speaker 1: anything wrong. They're like, now you're fired, and an arbitrator

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Speaker 1: came in was like, yeah, he definitely did something wrong.

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Speaker 3: He's fired. Son, he's out. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He goes to the Tennessee Volunteers for one season before

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Speaker 1: he jumps once again to something better to usc and

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Speaker 1: southern California. He works there for a couple of years,

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Speaker 1: and then jumps over I believe, to Alabama at that point,

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Speaker 1: where he works for two seasons, and then Saban lets

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Speaker 1: him go before a championship game because he's so much

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Speaker 1: drama and he took.

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Speaker 3: Yet another job, damn, and you gotta go.

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Speaker 1: And so this time around, by the way, when he

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Speaker 1: left Tennessee, there were riots at Racio, Tennessee because people

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Speaker 1: were so angry. So this time around, the day he's

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Speaker 1: supposed to make the decision, he pushes it off like

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Speaker 1: three times. He's making negotiations like I should be able

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Speaker 1: to coach through the championship, which makes no sense because

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Speaker 1: then you get to take players and coaches and like

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Speaker 1: wheedle them and get them lured over to your new

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Speaker 1: place with you, which is a conference, right.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to see where this goes.

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Speaker 1: And then he takes the LSU job, gets kicked out

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Speaker 1: on his butt. LSU sends a private plane to come

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Speaker 1: pick him up at the airport, and the ole Miss

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Speaker 1: fans are out there given middle fingers and booze watching

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Speaker 1: him leave with part of the coaching staff while his

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Speaker 1: players are back in the athletic department, Like, what is

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Speaker 1: happening to us? So the hoe.

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Speaker 3: Goes to Lsu.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Mary Catherine using the home word.

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Speaker 1: And my favorite Real Housewives detail is that they put

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Speaker 1: his clothes on the street outside his house.

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Speaker 3: What are you gonna do in Oxford? MISSOSII? It was

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Speaker 3: a lot, Carol. I do think I.

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Speaker 2: Haven't heard about any of this, like not even in passing,

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Speaker 2: not even I had none of it.

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Speaker 1: Well, now you know, now I know if Lane Kiffin

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Speaker 1: comes up, And by the way, I do think this

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Speaker 1: ludicrous lyric is going to follow him his entire career.

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Speaker 3: Like he's also famous for like covorting with.

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Speaker 1: Mid twenties co eds and such, so he's like on

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Speaker 1: many levels, one might say the analogy is working anyway, I.

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Speaker 2: Wish you were Lane Kiffen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, poor Lane in four years Lsu, just like,

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Speaker 1: remember who you hired, because.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day, can't make a whole housewife.

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, the thing that I noticed during this

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Speaker 1: is like he's a little trumpy in that he is

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Speaker 1: raw talent, and he's clearly magnetic, and he makes these

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Speaker 1: programs work for short periods of time, and he is

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Speaker 1: posting through it.

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Speaker 3: Like you can't control that man. He is going to

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Speaker 3: do what Lane's gonna do.

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Speaker 2: So all right, where the story do we Where do

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Speaker 2: we watch this?

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Speaker 1: Is it some Bravo or you gotta put you got

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Speaker 1: to pull up the live stream of the Oxford, Mississippi

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Speaker 1: Airport because that.

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Speaker 2: Was I think I'm going to have to do that

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Speaker 2: right after this recording. But Lank Kiffin, here you are

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Speaker 2: on Normally we don't cover a lot of inside drama

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Speaker 2: of college sports, but this was a good one. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for sharing drama all the time. Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think we should do more, you know,

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Speaker 2: Desperate Housewives it comes to sports moments on the show.

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Speaker 3: We should, I should make a trailer should.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on Normally. Normally airs Tuesdays and Thursdays,

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