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Speaker 2: Cowboys. This is Mick.

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys At now here are Bill Jones, Heckmharrison, Everson Wolves,

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Speaker 1: and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: Well, good afternoon, Cowboy Nation, and welcome, Good afternoon, Cowboy Nation,

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Speaker 3: the best. I'm Heck Maharrison, and next to me is

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Speaker 3: a Super Bowl champion that loves to play golf. He's

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Speaker 3: already given us the morning about his attendance for next week.

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Speaker 3: But he is a Super Bowl champion. And my Mayor

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Speaker 3: Everson Walls is in the building. And the man that

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Speaker 3: the show is named after, Mickey Spagnola, graced us with

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Speaker 3: his presence. He is here today as well. Bill Jones

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Speaker 3: will be here by the third segment. So, guys, as

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Speaker 3: I get an opportunity here Dallas Cowboys dot Com to

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Speaker 3: host a show, I make sure that I check in

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Speaker 3: with my co host first to see how your mind

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Speaker 3: is and see how you're doing.

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Speaker 4: Everson, how are you, sir?

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Speaker 5: My mind is good and I'm glad you you asked,

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Speaker 5: because everyone's not doing as well as we want them

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Speaker 5: to believe. And I'm just blessed that I have, you know,

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Speaker 5: a good, good, good people in my life.

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Speaker 4: That's awesome, man, sir, that is awesome. Mickey, how are you?

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Speaker 6: I'm good, happy to be here, happy to be here.

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Speaker 6: All their game on the docking.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we got a big one. We got a big one, guys.

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Speaker 3: And as I've gone through this and looked at the

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm sure you got an opportunity to gaze

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Speaker 3: at the rundown for today, of.

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Speaker 7: Course, and you know I'm sway wait, let me give

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Speaker 7: a like, Okay, I give it.

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Speaker 3: Look at it, well, look at it one more time,

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Speaker 3: because I think where we start is in your just

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Speaker 3: evaluation of the Washington commanders this week. What has you

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Speaker 3: the most worried about this young commander's squad?

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Speaker 7: Mickey? Oh, Jaydon Daniels, Jayden Daniels. I was gonna say.

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Speaker 6: That the Cowboys health going into the game.

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Speaker 3: What is it about Jayden and Daniels as a quarterback

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Speaker 3: that really has you more because.

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Speaker 6: He'll take off and run when you're expecting it and

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Speaker 6: when you're least expecting it, and you better be ready.

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Speaker 6: And that combined with his ability to throw the ball

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Speaker 6: that improved greatly his rookie year from when he was

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Speaker 6: in college, which really surprised me because when I would

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Speaker 6: watch him at LAH it was like, Oh, just force

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Speaker 6: him to throw the ball, do not let him run.

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Speaker 6: And the fact that his accuracy and recognition downfield improved

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Speaker 6: as a rookie greatly made him even that more dangerous

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Speaker 6: because he can run the ball. And uh, yeah, that

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Speaker 6: that's the part that scares me the most. You can

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Speaker 6: on a defense that's kind of average. I think this

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Speaker 6: He had a late turnover that led to the winning

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Speaker 6: Jayden Daniels and his youth.

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Speaker 5: I think if you're the Cowboys, that's something that you

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Speaker 5: want to attack. You want to, you know, put him

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Speaker 5: in unfamiliar situations if you can yes.

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Speaker 7: Not that saying a lot to pay. That's the biggest thing, right.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, because our big enemy from doing that is ourselves,

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Speaker 5: because our defense will not allow us to get in

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Speaker 7: I like Jayden Daniels a lot.

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Speaker 5: His overall game is amazing to me, but it's just

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Speaker 5: like anything else. Sometimes he goes He goes to the

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Speaker 5: And I get it, he's got that ability, but you've

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Speaker 5: I don't know what who that backup is? Who is

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Speaker 7: Oh, Marcus Mariota, Mariota Mariota Marioda. Okay, yeah, he think

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Speaker 7: he did it's dirty last year, didn't he. We're about

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Speaker 6: They split They they lost lost the game to him

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Speaker 6: the last game of the thought, but they beat Washington

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Speaker 6: the first time Turpin had a kickoff for a touchdown.

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Speaker 6: We talked about it, yes, right, And then the fact

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Speaker 5: It just this a rivalry first of all, a divisional

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Speaker 5: I look for it to be a close game, but

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Speaker 5: I don't want I don't want us to put Washington

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Speaker 5: win the game with one score. I just I could

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Speaker 5: beg all I want, I could have all the optimism

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Speaker 5: I want at this moment, like this is going to

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Speaker 5: be the moment where everything changes. At this point, I

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Speaker 5: it comes to Wow.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you have no proof.

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Speaker 7: I have none. I hate saying this, but I have

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Speaker 7: no proof.

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Speaker 5: And you know, when you're talking about division right with,

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Speaker 5: this game is extremely important.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and so many ways.

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Speaker 5: Our record needs to be around five hundred going into

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Speaker 5: the people in NFC East. Then FC East alone, we

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Speaker 5: could lose track of it. Hopefully not because everyone's kind

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Speaker 5: of losing at this point. But when you have opportunities,

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Speaker 5: you need to take advantage of them. This is an

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Speaker 5: opportunity for this team to do something with the bad

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Speaker 6: Well, if you think about the two of the three

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Speaker 6: either tied or got beat. You know, you mentioned the

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Speaker 4: There, it's completely different.

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Speaker 3: Mentally, it feels different because it doesn't go back to

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Speaker 3: and I don't know how you and I guess renew

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Speaker 3: a damn good record. I think you'll take that. But

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Speaker 3: little bit different. But the thing that worries me in

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Speaker 4: And has a offense to go with it.

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Speaker 3: A young quarterback that I believe you know, admires him

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Speaker 3: that's why ebra Flus's interview today is so important because

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Speaker 5: A little bit different now because the Redskins, the Commanders

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Speaker 7: And you know, so we got accustomed to that.

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Speaker 5: That makes a great rivalry because the games mean something.

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Speaker 7: You know, at each time, this game means something.

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Speaker 5: I think these two quarterbacks, they really are at the

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Speaker 7: They would bring back the sense.

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Speaker 6: Well, if you think about it, the rivalry really didn't

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Speaker 6: I should do this again because every year they play,

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Speaker 6: I bring built a copy of my book.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, just to remind him, and he.

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Speaker 6: Goes, I got about three right, right right, just trying

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Speaker 6: to help you out. But the rivalry really didn't start

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Speaker 6: They got back, and now they took something away from

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Speaker 7: They go to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: And then he tore down He tore down the signs

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Speaker 5: They tore down those signs all around Texas. Google's my friends,

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Speaker 5: very disrespectful.

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Speaker 7: You tell down my sign man. Some fans didn't jump

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Speaker 6: And then the Cowboys got into it when no, it

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Speaker 6: they beat them and it was Harvey.

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Speaker 5: There wasn't no Harvey Harvey and threw it into the

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Speaker 6: They were all kneeling, They were kneeling in the locker

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Speaker 7: They made them start.

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Speaker 6: Grown men cried, you know, and even when they told Harvey,

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Speaker 6: but you know, we've done the research and nobody from

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Speaker 7: Because that was an exciting was that the game.

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Speaker 5: That was on that game for two years Hill that's

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Speaker 6: And they beat them because the winner was going to

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Speaker 6: And Harvey walked over there in full uniform helmet. I

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Speaker 7: Yeah right, Hobby More.

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Speaker 6: That was part of the rival of that just kind

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Speaker 6: So the bottom line when you said, you know, they

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Speaker 7: That do for me nice time?

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Speaker 7: No, not doing that.

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Speaker 6: Well, they're going to score thirty points. And see it's

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Speaker 5: And that's saying a lot compared to what our office

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Speaker 4: Of the fifty.

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Speaker 7: That's not necessarily.

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Speaker 6: Because if not, it's a touchdown going the other way.

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Speaker 5: All I'm saying is this, our offense needs to extend

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Speaker 7: I don't think we do. I love our special teams.

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Speaker 5: We got one of the best special teams around, punter

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Speaker 6: But you don't want to see the punter out there

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Speaker 4: That just it was unblockable.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm sure they went to work on how the

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Speaker 5: see that's the mindset. I'm thinking, no more field goals

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Speaker 4: I'm going for it like this.

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Speaker 6: The problem with the one is they started at first

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Speaker 6: you had three plays.

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Speaker 7: I understand.

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Speaker 5: I understand, Bill gotta stuff.

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Speaker 7: We have to start thinking this way. We have to.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we're waiting on this defense. Man, we're waiting

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Speaker 6: They kicked a field goal tie game, and they stopped him,

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Speaker 7: The thinking.

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Speaker 6: The thinking was good, but you know.

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Speaker 7: It's okay to go three and now, but six minutes.

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Speaker 6: To go in the game, you thought, get the ball back. Yeah, so.

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Speaker 4: Did everybody.

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Speaker 3: It's not those guys, I mean, but they've were That's

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Speaker 3: The Commanders are going to score thirty points. You're basically

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Speaker 3: we are, and I think we have to that. We're

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Speaker 3: As a defender, you're thinking, man, forty there's no way,

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Speaker 5: There's no way they're going to be able to get

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Speaker 6: And you scored thirty seven points, Yes you did, And

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Speaker 6: You sit there and go please a fire me me now.

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00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 5: If anything starts with the fifty million, I got nothing

445
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 5: to do tomorrow.

446
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 7: Golf, yeah, tee, the Burrow. Yeah.

447
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 6: If his ego is okay.

448
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,959
Speaker 3: I think you know what, Mickey, I could buy another

449
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 3: ego fifty million dollars.

450
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 7: I'll be all right with that.

451
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 10: The math on that was twenty thousand dollars of the

452
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 10: day a day for the next six years. He got

453
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 10: million dollars buyout, twenty million dollars a day for the next.

454
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 5: Six twenty thousand dollars a day for the next six.

455
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 6: So there's probably a deal in there. If he takes

456
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 6: another job, they'll pay the difference.

457
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 7: But I would take it in that.

458
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 10: In that deal, just I found out that he has

459
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,719
Speaker 10: to look for a he has to actively look for

460
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 10: a job.

461
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 7: It has to be over eight million.

462
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 6: I got a lot of friends out there.

463
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 10: They say, no, hey, hey, I'll interview with you, but

464
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 10: I don't want to.

465
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 5: You imagine just call me, hey, I'll interview me, and.

466
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 7: You kidding me? How are you?

467
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? So look, we'll get away. We'll

468
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 3: get away from that in state. I'm sure a lot

469
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: of people in Happy Valley are not happy about that.

470
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 3: But you have the injury report. You got to tell

471
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Speaker 3: me who's good.

472
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 6: Please, Well, when you got it, I saw all this.

473
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 6: They had ten guys limited but no d n p s,

474
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 6: so that was an improvement. And four of the guys

475
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 6: limited they're.

476
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 7: Just hurt, they're not injured.

477
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 6: Well, it's guys coming back from injuries. They did not

478
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 6: practice the last few weeks, so you get Tyler Booker

479
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 6: limited and he looks like he's good to ceedee lamb.

480
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 7: We discussed it, right, he's breathing.

481
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 6: Jack Sanborn had to pass one more cognitive tests to

482
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 6: get out of concussion of protocol and he was in

483
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 6: helmet and pads yesterday, so I think it depended on

484
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 6: how much he did and then how well he woke

485
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 6: up this morning and Cavante Turpin with the foot was

486
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 6: in helmet and shoulder pads, so he was good to

487
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 6: go to see those guys now limited after they had

488
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 6: not practiced for two three weeks, I thought was pretty

489
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 6: darn encouraging. The other one, Kaylin Carson, who he and

490
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 6: Mingo now are this week, will complete their twenty one

491
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 6: day practice session. We talked about it, Yes, yes, we did.

492
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 6: So he's listed as full. They do have a roster

493
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 6: spot available from Jalen Cropper, okay, right, and I think

494
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 6: he's it's going to get back on the practice squad,

495
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 6: so if they want, they can all of he can

496
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 6: be active. Now they don't have to do. We talked

497
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 6: about it yesterday. The twenty one days are up after

498
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 6: the end of the week, so by next Wednesday is

499
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 6: when they have to decide are you taking them off

500
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 6: IR and putting them on the fifty three or are

501
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 6: you leaving them on IR. So they got a decision

502
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 6: to make with those two guys.

503
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 7: League Hooker.

504
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 6: Hooker got put on IR.

505
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 4: I believe. So his window is now, he's.

506
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 6: Got two weeks, two more weeks that on IR and

507
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 6: then the window can open to practice. So he's going

508
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 6: to be out a while. And then and as we

509
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 6: talked about with Overshown, you know, they haven't even started

510
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 6: his window, and I'm sure they'll use all twenty one

511
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 6: of those days to ramp him up. So you're looking

512
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 6: the middle of November maybe or after Thanksgiving one of

513
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 6: the too. So that's where those guys are. The other

514
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 6: guys limited, Keegan Cornelius, Marshawn Neeland's been dealing with an ankle.

515
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 6: Tyler Smith they got listed a knee, but he played

516
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 6: last week. Donovan Wilson played last week and he's got

517
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 6: an elbow and a knee. Hopefully it's not all on

518
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 6: the same side. So anyway, they listed Diggs in Houston

519
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 6: also as fully practicing.

520
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 4: But you didn't say Bland.

521
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 6: He's not even on it.

522
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 3: Good something, so of Ceedee Lamb Ceedee Lamb was was

523
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: who I was. I was talking about guys as a

524
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 3: great receive wide receiver.

525
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 7: That is going to be back and having him back.

526
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 3: We touched on it a little bit, but I really

527
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 3: think for Dak his man, he's got to be giddy

528
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 3: with excitement to have these two guys on the field

529
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 3: at the same time. Now having that connection with George Pickens,

530
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 3: but now you know the connection that he has with

531
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Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb. Mickey, you have plenty of experience with high

532
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: ankle springs, not as an athlete.

533
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 6: One of.

534
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 3: You have plenty of experience there you go with the

535
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: high but high ankle springs. When you've seen guys come back,

536
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 3: especially from a skill position standpoint, what's your expectation from

537
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: CD coming back in and it pretty much a must win?

538
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 7: Yeah.

539
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 6: Normally when I hear that, it's four to six weeks. Uh,

540
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 6: so his he's been out what three weeks and this

541
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 6: would be leading up to the fourth so uh. Usually

542
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 6: when they let him back, then they're ready to go.

543
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 8: Uh.

544
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 6: They don't take a chance because I know Jim Auer

545
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 6: and Britt Brown, their motto is I'm not going to

546
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 6: let you play and then you come back to me

547
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 6: because you irritated what you just recovered. So usually when

548
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 6: they put him out there, sometimes it takes two weeks

549
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 6: of practice. But Schottenheimer sagn pretty confident that he'd be

550
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 6: ready to go. And you can see when they were

551
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 6: doing drills out there that he was running pretty well,

552
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 6: so he wasn't favoring it. So yeah, And I thought

553
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 6: the week before when I saw him doing his rehab

554
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 6: on the cords, he was moving really well. And part

555
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 6: of that is not just step step step after the

556
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 6: chord comes out, they have him running like run run,

557
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 6: and he was running pretty well. So yeah, I think

558
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 6: he should be he should be good to go. Obviously,

559
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 6: Booker just needs to run five yards, right, he'll be

560
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 6: good to go. We'll see on sandboard. And then same

561
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 6: thing with Cavante Turpin. He was running in the drills

562
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 6: very well. Yeah, and that's a good thing that even

563
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 6: if you just say go out there and catch it,

564
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 6: at least he's got experience in the NFL doing that, right.

565
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 6: And then after that everything so uh, and I'm sure

566
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 6: Washington will have a bullseye on him.

567
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 5: When you look at the matchups between wide receivers and cornerbacks.

568
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 5: Obviously we have the advantage offensive, I would think. So

569
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 5: now you're talking about giving these guys a little bit

570
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 5: of assistance, whether it's from a linebacker or whether it's

571
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 5: from a safety, and that bodes well for our running

572
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 5: game because now you can't crowd the line of scrimmage

573
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 5: with anyone you take it. You're just messing with fire

574
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 5: if you do that. And so I think our offense

575
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 5: knows that. I think Shoddy knows that's what's gonna happen.

576
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 5: They're gonna be double team in one or the other

577
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 5: or both.

578
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 4: They're gonna double team George Pickens.

579
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 7: Because he's feeling it right now.

580
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 4: He's feeling it.

581
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 3: I mean, every team that's coming that's gonna come in

582
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 3: is going to because he gives you the viable threat

583
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 3: from everywhere because for who he is as a wide receiver.

584
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb in this matchups like saferest they have with

585
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 3: Marshall Latimore. You know Marshall, Yeah, so great for this

586
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 3: to play for the Saints, but also a good to

587
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 3: great cornerback in the NFL. That's a matchup for me.

588
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb one on one with Marshall and Laddimow. I'm

589
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: gonna expose that all day, every day. And so that's

590
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: where I think. Now when Ceedee Lamb getting back on

591
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 3: the runway, it's going to be so much more dangerous

592
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 3: for this offense. Oh and by the way, if you

593
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: are a Commander's fan, to watch any Commander's football, they

594
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 3: have a linebacker by the name.

595
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 4: Of Frankie Louvu, number four.

596
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know much about this young

597
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 3: man ever since he is the real deal. He is,

598
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 3: and they dan Quinn moves him around and from the edge,

599
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 3: blitzing from the middle. He does a lot of different

600
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 3: things for them. But they have Drince Armstrong, don't forget

601
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 3: about DNAs Deron Payne, you know Deron Payin. But they

602
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: have Javon kin Law. They have a bunch of weapons

603
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 3: over there defensively, but for some reason it just hasn't

604
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 3: been coming together.

605
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 5: For them well defensively. That number twenty seven, twenty sixth

606
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 5: in the NFL. I'm man, If I'm DAK, I'm I'm ready.

607
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 5: If I'm c D, I don't care who's over there.

608
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 5: I'm ready. So once again I'm looking for the running

609
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 5: game to improve from last week, because there's no way

610
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 5: they're going to leave our guys out there that they're

611
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 5: guys out there against our guys one on one. So

612
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 5: Ferguson look forward to having another good game because they're

613
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 5: gonna be they're going to be doubling those guys on

614
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 5: the out side.

615
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: Bill Jones is back with us. No oh no, you

616
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: can still hear. He got all dressed up, all dressed up.

617
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 7: I should have done that for you, man, I should

618
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 7: have done that for you.

619
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 11: Hi.

620
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 6: They're probably in the apartment when we take that break.

621
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we'll spray that down after you take my mind.

622
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 5: That's love right there. But that's love. But I give

623
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 5: you the back to the cliff notes, Phil. So we've talked, Yes,

624
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 5: we start, Yeah, we definitely.

625
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: We definitely him and the threat that he is against

626
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 3: this defense. Talk about getting healthy and having ceedee Lamb back.

627
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 3: Everson has decided, you know, figured out that he does

628
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: have a pulse and he's breathing, so he's gonna play.

629
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 7: Yeah.

630
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 3: So for the most part, we're looking at all the

631
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 3: all of our weapons back to go against the commanders.

632
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 11: And I think also having Pickens having had this opportunity

633
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 11: the last few weeks to work with dak Is makes

634
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 11: Pickens an even better player than he was a month ago.

635
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 6: And the other thing they can't count on is who's

636
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 6: going to be in the slot, because they ran Pickens

637
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 6: out of the slot, by the way, and they had

638
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 6: been doing that with Lamb, So they can't just assume, well,

639
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 6: we got these two guys on the out side, right,

640
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 6: is it more difficult to double the guy coming out

641
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 6: of the slot or you do it with a linebacker.

642
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 5: And well, yeah, no movement. Movement will will dictate a

643
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 5: lot of things. Yeah, so it is more difficult on

644
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 5: the defense and subside because you got to show your cards.

645
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 5: It's easy for the offense to make you show your

646
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 5: cards with most shocking by slot guy, whether it's motion

647
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 5: or whatever. And most of the time when you're talking slot,

648
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 5: whoever that guy is, they used to double him all

649
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 5: the time because you had a safety coming down or

650
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 5: a third cornerback coming down. If that's what they're gonna

651
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 5: do with us, I love that going against Turpin, I

652
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 5: love that, bring that third corner down, bring that safety down.

653
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 7: That would be fun. That'd be fun for Turpin.

654
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 6: And they get a free release.

655
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 7: Can't jam them, especially if you give them nine yards.

656
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: Of you're supposed to in a safety in but you

657
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 3: say at Chapel Hill, I think you can do pretty good.

658
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 11: For you starting nineteen yards and winds up twenty five

659
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 11: yards deepens.

660
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 4: Safeties lined up at the Pentagon.

661
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 5: Tapa Bay used to have their safeties do that. They

662
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 5: were not even in the film. You thought they only

663
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Speaker 5: had ten guys playing because the safety was about twenty.

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Speaker 11: Five years single high or single high too.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Beasley Reees, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I was thinking they gave new meeting to cover two

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Speaker 5: Were Yeah, yeah, not with with the with the no,

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Speaker 5: we're talking to old school Beasley reees.

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Speaker 11: Can you think of any reason why he would be

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Speaker 11: playing that deep because in fourth and three, oh no for.

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Speaker 7: Three, I mean I can.

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Speaker 11: I can understand from the Chicago game where you know

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Speaker 7: The Giants Giants game. Yeah, to me, that's what he's

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Speaker 7: got to be thinking. He's got to be thinking, you may.

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Speaker 11: Have just decided that we're just going to start your

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Speaker 7: When I told you that.

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Speaker 5: But I told you earlier situational line and work your

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Speaker 7: So from the goal line and work your way up

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Speaker 5: Look at how the giants did this, you know the

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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, well they got you another way.

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Speaker 6: I mean from the sideline of you see that, what

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Speaker 11: Segment three of a free Thursday edition of Mixed Shots. Sure, Luke,

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Speaker 11: did you yeah? And the coach is in good mood? Good, Okay,

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Speaker 11: he's gotten over ad night rule. Sounds like we're going

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Speaker 11: to have better run fits on defense this week. Okay,

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Speaker 11: that's been the point of emphasis run fits.

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Speaker 6: Did you wish him happy birthday?

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Speaker 11: We did wish happy birthday number fifty two for him

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Speaker 11: and try to quit counting birthdays at a certain point.

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Speaker 6: No, we Yeah, he was and he's only fifty two.

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Speaker 11: Uh yeah, And we talked about I read the chapter,

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Speaker 11: which was a short chapter in his dad's book, Marty

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Speaker 11: Ball and Their Time Spent in Washington, which was twenty

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Speaker 11: four years ago. One season Marty Schottenheimer was the head

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Speaker 11: coach Washington, hired by Dan Snyder, And the best thing

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Speaker 11: that came out of it is Brian met his wife

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Speaker 11: who work for.

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Speaker 7: You know, so he hasn't a shot game. He has

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Speaker 7: an infinity for the commander shotty goy game.

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Speaker 11: It was funny how many years ago and that was

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Speaker 11: two thousand and one.

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Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, back daddy line.

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Speaker 4: What was the line that? Oh?

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Speaker 7: What was the line that? Come on?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know it had to alone something like.

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Speaker 11: It is a funny story.

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Speaker 7: How how he was he was.

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Speaker 5: Had to shot, try to be pool, to put it,

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Speaker 5: put ad down, try to be cool.

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Speaker 11: He was the other day in the press, comed you

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Speaker 11: talk about six seven six seven, yeah, six seven.

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Speaker 3: Six seven, yeah, six seven, it's the young thing. Okay,

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Speaker 3: six seven Okay, y'all got me on that. We have

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Speaker 3: to talk about that. Bill knows what he's talking about.

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Speaker 11: I had to look it up.

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Speaker 7: Google's his friend. Also, I had I had to be told, okay,

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Speaker 7: I'll check that out. It is a thing, got a

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Speaker 7: new thing.

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Speaker 3: It is and it is for real and if you

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Speaker 3: don't know, it really is confusing, really say it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, it's a young thing. And if it's confusing

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Speaker 5: to us, then yes. So I had to score the

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Speaker 5: other day.

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Speaker 3: It was six to seven and our and I lie

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Speaker 3: in the in the chat line blew up with six

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Speaker 3: seven sixty seven. I'm like, what is going on any yeah? People,

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Speaker 3: but we figured it.

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Speaker 7: Out this what real quick? Uh.

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Speaker 11: Schottenheimer is a funny story on how he got the

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Speaker 11: quarterbacks coaching job with Washington twenty four years ago. His

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Speaker 11: dad gets hired as the head coach, and he had

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Speaker 11: been on the staff in Kansas City and after his

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Speaker 11: dad was out of coaching for two years, worked for ESPN,

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Speaker 11: actually for one.

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Speaker 7: Year and uh, but.

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Speaker 11: Brian had coached at Syracuse and then for Paul Hackett

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Speaker 11: at USC and so he then goes to his dad

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Speaker 11: after he got the head coaching job at Washington, said hey,

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Speaker 11: how about me as your quarterbacks coach? And Dad's like, well, well,

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Speaker 11: and he finally relented and gave him an interview. So

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Speaker 11: he comes for an.

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Speaker 7: Interview and who his dad?

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Speaker 11: His dad's coming for coming for the interview. Town comes

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Speaker 11: in for the interview, okay, And they get into the

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Speaker 11: interview and then Dad looks at us, well, I got

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Speaker 11: Chris Palmer coming in for his interview here. So kicks

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Speaker 11: him out of the office and says, we'll have to

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Speaker 11: continue this interview later because I got Chris Palmer coming in.

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Speaker 11: He's interviewing for this job. And uh so the interview

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Speaker 11: resumes at four a m. The next morning before he

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Speaker 11: had an early flight out the next morning, and so

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Speaker 11: four am. And it's the first first guy who ever

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Speaker 11: got a job interviewing. And the guy interviewing was wearing

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Speaker 11: a robe, so they got.

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Speaker 6: The dress that's good at dinner.

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Speaker 3: Right, had to make a swift though. You got to

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Speaker 3: make him SWI can't just give it to him.

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Speaker 7: But what he did did he say? Why?

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Speaker 4: Why? Why?

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Speaker 11: He got the job because he's Brian Shunn.

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Speaker 6: And then he followed him to San Diego and Mama

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Speaker 6: probably called, so what's the hold up?

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Speaker 7: Right? Yeah, thank you job.

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Speaker 3: Now, now that you're reading the book and you have

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Speaker 3: a little bit more experience with Brian, what is the

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Speaker 3: like the difference that you've seen so far between the coaching.

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Speaker 6: I want some chicken, But but what was the last part?

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Speaker 11: You were rudely interrupted.

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Speaker 4: What's the difference between their coaching styles?

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Speaker 11: Oh, but Marty and Brian, I think their personalities there's

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Speaker 11: a there's a difference there.

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Speaker 4: Although although and I've got a.

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Speaker 11: Great friend who worked in Kansas City at the Fox affiliate.

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Speaker 11: There and just thinks the world of the Schottenheimers. So

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Speaker 11: Marty was always a great guy to cover from a

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Speaker 11: media standpoint, and a great guy. He treated his employees

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Speaker 11: just uh yeah, tremendously whatever. In fact, there's a story

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Speaker 11: from Washington in that book where Dan Daniel Snyder wanted

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Speaker 11: to cut costs on the media guide. Okay, and so

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Speaker 11: they wanted to make a smaller media guide, and so

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Speaker 11: they were going to take certain pages out of the

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Speaker 11: media guide of people they had, people like people that

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Speaker 11: work for the Washington Organization. Well, they're the head head

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Speaker 11: groundskeeper at the stadium had a page devoted to him.

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Speaker 11: And so they come to Marty and said, how about, okay,

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Speaker 11: we'll take out this page. He's like, no, we are

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Speaker 11: not taking the page out for the head grounds keeper.

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Speaker 11: Every employee in this building deserves a page in that

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Speaker 11: media guide. And so that's kind of person that Marty is. Well,

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Speaker 11: Brian has that same attitude.

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Speaker 5: The former owner and you want to get rid of

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Speaker 5: all the yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Right, once they get rid of the owner, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: what they did.

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Speaker 4: Took a while, yeah, but it happened.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, And I don't know, I meant, I think Brian

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Speaker 11: probably got I don't know if his uh personality, you know,

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Speaker 11: he's got the he's a very relationship driven, you know,

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Speaker 11: which I think is a great trait, especially taking over

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Speaker 11: this job, connecting with the scouting staff, connecting with every

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Speaker 11: different departments in the organization where everybody's on the same page.

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Speaker 11: Probably he's got a lot of that from his dad too.

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Speaker 6: So who would have been the quarterback at that time?

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Speaker 11: Jeff George was there. I think Jeff George may have

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Speaker 11: been there the previous year because North Turner was the

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Speaker 11: head coach and I was just trying to think Tony

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Speaker 11: Banks was there and who lives here locally.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but Marty, Marty have the reputation has been

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Speaker 5: a you know, a harday yeah coach, which is completely

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Speaker 5: different than what you think of Brian Schottenhamer As far

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Speaker 5: as his reputation, I.

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Speaker 11: Think, but I don't think he was like that off

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Speaker 11: the field. It was his reputation. Was that was his

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Speaker 11: coaching style as far as the way his team plays, Yes,

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Speaker 11: you know, was.

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Speaker 6: He had a stern look.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think Brian took uh more after from a personality

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Speaker 6: of his mom's mom. Yeah, joy right, I believe that

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Speaker 6: was it anyway, But yeah, he's because when she was

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Speaker 6: here when he got hired, she was really outgoing.

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Speaker 7: And I said, okay, Mark.

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Speaker 5: It seemed like he was always yelling at somebody sideline.

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Speaker 5: I mean that's what I remember, not nothing good or bad.

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Speaker 5: I just know he wanted to be heard and we

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Speaker 5: want to make sure everyone was communicating.

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Speaker 6: I remember him more from Cleveland, right was Cleveland his

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Speaker 6: Cleveland in the early ages, and then he was in

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Speaker 6: Kansas City and then Washington and San Diego.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so now this relationships are important, and obviously I

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Speaker 3: don't know if you guys read it or saw it.

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Speaker 3: Dan Quinn's relationship with Brian Schottnhaimer going back over eighteen years.

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Speaker 3: Between those two, they've known, yeah, that they've been together

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Speaker 3: for quite a while, and they said, look, you know,

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Speaker 3: friendship be damn when we get out here on this field,

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Speaker 3: is you know, me versus him.

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Speaker 11: Quinn was the d line coach for the Jets when

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Speaker 11: Schottenheimer was the offensive coordinator. So two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 11: two thousand and eight is when Quinn was with the Jets.

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Speaker 11: Then he went to the Seahawks from there under Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 11: But remember in the press commers. The other day, Brian

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Speaker 11: said something about going back to Hofstra and then I

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Speaker 11: asked him, Okay, so because dan Quinn played at Hofstra

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Speaker 11: and then he coached at Hofstra for five years from

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Speaker 11: like ninety six to two thousand. Okay, so where were

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Speaker 11: the connection to come there?

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Speaker 4: He said?

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Speaker 11: It was because the Jets trained at Hofstra.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and so.

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Speaker 11: When Dan was there, he was a big man on

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Speaker 11: campus and during training camp because he knew all the

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Speaker 11: people at Hofstra.

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Speaker 4: So look at us connecting all the dots, uh huh.

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Speaker 11: And then he and more recently twenty twenty two, I

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Speaker 11: mean we talk about we talked about Mike McCarthy's relationship

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Speaker 11: with I heard it Mike McCarthy's relationship with Schottenheimer coming here,

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Speaker 11: But truly it was dan Quinn's relationship with Schottenheimer that

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Speaker 11: got Brian here in twenty twenty two, and why he

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Speaker 11: was working with the defense more so than the offense.

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Speaker 11: Not to say that Mike didn't want him here, but

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Speaker 11: what real, what sold it was he was going to

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Speaker 11: be working hand in hand with dan Quinn, and he

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Speaker 11: was helping dan Quinn with the defense by basically being

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Speaker 11: an advanced scout and.

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Speaker 5: But they said know a lot about each other. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: they know a lot about each other. How they play

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Speaker 5: calling and everything.

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Speaker 11: Well, and Joett Junior is a play caller and defense

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Speaker 11: and he was here too, and so yeah.

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Speaker 6: So that cancels everything out.

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Speaker 7: It does? It does?

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Speaker 6: No one's got it. Okay, you need another copy of

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Speaker 6: the book on the Rivalry, or he got enough.

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Speaker 7: I seemed to bring that.

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Speaker 6: I seemed to bring it to you every year.

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Speaker 4: He's another one.

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Speaker 6: I got one.

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Speaker 11: Bring it tomorrow.

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Speaker 7: I'll bring it tomorrow.

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Speaker 11: Okay, on it's already Friday. We're not playing their fight song,

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Speaker 11: are we No, we're not playing that fight song. That

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Speaker 11: will play other fight songs.

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Speaker 6: So even though the rivalry started with their fight song.

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Speaker 11: Right, Okay, that story tomorrow on the next edition of

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Speaker 11: Mixed Shots Old Cowboys.

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