WEBVTT - Kim Emch: The Only 3 Generation Family ESL Program (Pt 1)

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<v Speaker 1>All the tutoring I did at that inner city school,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew they got a free lunch. I knew it.

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<v Speaker 1>I never asked them, what are you doing in the summer?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to an army of normal volks. I'm Bill Courtney.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a normal guy. I'm a husband, I'm a father,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm an entrepreneur, and I've been a football coach in

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<v Speaker 2>inner city of Memphis. And that last part is somehow

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<v Speaker 2>led to an oscar for the film about our team.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called Undefeated. I believe our country's problems will never

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<v Speaker 2>be solved by a bunch of fancy people in nice

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<v Speaker 2>suits using big words that nobody ever uses on CNN

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<v Speaker 2>and fogs, but rather by an army of normal votes.

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<v Speaker 2>That's us, just you and me deciding, Hey, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I can help. That's what Kim impsch the voice.

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<v Speaker 2>You just heard his stuff. Well, she found out that

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of kids in her suburban community were going hungry

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<v Speaker 2>in this summer. Kim couldn't look away from the problem,

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<v Speaker 2>and she dove in. Her nonprofit Festa now feeds over

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<v Speaker 2>eight hundred children in the summer. But as Kim puts it,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't just want to help people live a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit better in poverty. So they serve over eleven hundred

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<v Speaker 2>people with after school tutoring in English as the second

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<v Speaker 2>language classes to help their families escape pography. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>wait for you to meet Kim right after these brief

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<v Speaker 2>messages from our general sponsors, Kim Impsh, Welcome to Memphis.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Phil emcch pronounced impsh. What on God's green planet is that?

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<v Speaker 1>My husband I actually have whole conversations about this. His

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<v Speaker 1>family swears it's Swiss, but I understand that half of

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<v Speaker 1>the people in Swiss speak German, so I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was that side.

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<v Speaker 2>So your husband has no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, I tease them that they have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you're from an interesting place that I think

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<v Speaker 2>when you grow up there you have to drink scarlet

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<v Speaker 2>and silver juice. Just outside of this place called Columbus, Ohio,

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<v Speaker 2>where they seem to worship a football team.

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<v Speaker 1>They do, the Ohio State Buckeyes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's a buckeye? Isn't that like a pea or something?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a nut from a tree. It's a what it's

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<v Speaker 1>a nut from a tree? I see comes off of

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<v Speaker 1>a tree. And we also make them into candies of

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate peanut butter, which are delicious.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they really all? Right? Well, Kim imps everybody from

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<v Speaker 2>the Columbus area. She's actually from Hillard, Ohio, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a suburb. And fair warning, we're going to go through

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<v Speaker 2>Kim's story, but you're going to hear some terminology today

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<v Speaker 2>that you've probably never heard. And before I read all

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<v Speaker 2>about you, I guess I probably knew this thing existed,

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<v Speaker 2>but I wasn't really in tune with it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think not only the work that you do and all

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<v Speaker 2>that you've all it's evolved, which obviously we're gonna unpack,

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<v Speaker 2>I think is incredibly interesting, but just the genesis of

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<v Speaker 2>it is eye opening and I think something we can

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<v Speaker 2>all learn from. But before we get to that, as

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<v Speaker 2>everybody knows, we're going to learn a little bit about you.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me about you, where you come from? And you

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<v Speaker 2>and I, by the way, I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 2>know my story, but you and I have something in

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<v Speaker 2>very incommon in terms of the way we came up.

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<v Speaker 2>But so go with little Kim. Where from what did

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<v Speaker 2>growing up as Kim? What was your maiden names? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you go from Woods to ips. Oh my goodness, tell

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<v Speaker 2>me about what Kim Woods looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up, I grew up in Mammy, Ohio, a suburb

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<v Speaker 1>of Toledo, and I experienced five divorces by my parents

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<v Speaker 1>by the time I was seventeen, and growing up in

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<v Speaker 1>a suburb, I had godparents who were from Spanish was

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<v Speaker 1>their first language, and I was completely unchurched until middle school.

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<v Speaker 2>The godparents was that from mom's friends, god's friends, Mom's.

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<v Speaker 1>Friends, mom's friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, how did I don't know how, Jorn, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to ask, but I would think back then that

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<v Speaker 2>having Spanish speaking friends was unique.

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<v Speaker 1>I think about that often because you know in your

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<v Speaker 1>childhood what is normal to you is normal to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Right when you grew up and meet people as an adult,

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<v Speaker 1>you realize it was maybe unique. So I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was unique. My godfather was from Mexico and he became

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<v Speaker 1>a juvenile court judge in Toledo, Judge Joe Flores, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I remember every time he campaigned, we had these

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<v Speaker 1>bright yellow shirts with the black writing vote for Judge Flores,

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<v Speaker 1>and they actually he's passed and there's a street named

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<v Speaker 1>after him in downtown Toledo. So he was very passionate.

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<v Speaker 1>He grew up at the YMCA. He grew up that

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<v Speaker 1>was the YMCA, was his extracurricular, his group of friends,

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<v Speaker 1>his safe place, and of course then he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>give back and pour into young people. So that was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely very left a huge lasting impression on me.

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<v Speaker 2>Clearly, that's your godfather. So I am the product of

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<v Speaker 2>five divorces on my mom's side and three on my

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<v Speaker 2>father sad. So you said your parents had five divorces.

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<v Speaker 2>What was that like for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very tumultuous, I mean, very life shaking, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out who's here, who's coming, who's leaving, lots of greed,

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<v Speaker 1>lots of loss, and trying to navigate it and figure

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<v Speaker 1>out where my place was in all of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>who could be trusted, who could be depended on. It

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<v Speaker 1>was rough.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you experience in yourself an unwillingness to trust consistency?

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm, that's a great question. I would say being expecting

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<v Speaker 1>or being ready for the next big crisis became sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a norm for me for sure. My last stepfather

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<v Speaker 1>from my mom took us to church when I was

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<v Speaker 1>in middle school, and that was definitely life changing for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we didn't even though I had godparents and I

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<v Speaker 1>had been baptized when I was two or three, but

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't go to church. We didn't We weren't around

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<v Speaker 1>people who were Christians, or I didn't know. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what I didn't know. And as he took us

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<v Speaker 1>to church at a little Lutheran church in Mommy. Later

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<v Speaker 1>on I learned that it was called youth group, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just knew it was this group of people who

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<v Speaker 1>were inviting me to hang out with them. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was some youth leaders, some adults who actually were studying

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<v Speaker 1>to become doctors. I don't know how they found the

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<v Speaker 1>time to run this group, and then a bunch of teenagers,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly from my school. But we hung out and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a great community for me, and they started saying

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<v Speaker 1>things to me like, oh my gosh, you are a

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<v Speaker 1>natural leader and started honing my leadership. They said, you're

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<v Speaker 1>smart in your studious you could go to college. No

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<v Speaker 1>one my family had been to college. And I just

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<v Speaker 1>loved being there. I loved going there. We went to

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<v Speaker 1>Appalachia to retar coal miners' homes for a service trip,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll never forget I'm standing on the roof in

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<v Speaker 1>the valley of the Appalachian Mountains. It's one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>ten degrees, no breeze, huge humidity, humidity. I'm standing on

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<v Speaker 1>this roof, tarring this roof, and the owner comes out,

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<v Speaker 1>little old man with white hair, with an oxygen tank,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's praying for me on the roof. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>when I learned that serving God is this three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty degree circle where everyone has a need and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone can give.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of cool. Did that stepdad hang around for

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of your life or was he another divorced person.

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<v Speaker 1>They divorced, but I still have a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>With him, So clearly not affluent. Nobody's graduated from college,

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<v Speaker 2>you said, Is that right? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>My mom went to nurses training and so she was

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<v Speaker 1>a registered nurse. She always had a good job. She

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<v Speaker 1>could always find a job, and it was always a

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<v Speaker 1>good job. So we I was never worried about food, clothing,

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<v Speaker 1>or shelter. I wasn't worried about those things.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it. So a little bit of chaos, a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of trauma, probably some disassociation. And the only reason

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying all those things is because I'm just projecting

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<v Speaker 2>on you what I experienced, and you're shaking your head

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<v Speaker 2>up and down. So I guess that experience growing up

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<v Speaker 2>that way leaves those impressions. Church obviously became integral in

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<v Speaker 2>how it formed the way you thought and clearly which

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know. The relationship with your godparents I think

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<v Speaker 2>also was formulative, which is interesting. So what do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you go to college? What happens?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I'm in this Lutheran church going to this again.

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<v Speaker 1>What I learned later was a youth group getting confirmed

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<v Speaker 1>because in middle school and Lutheran religion, they're teaching you

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<v Speaker 1>everything and I knew nothing. So it was perfect timing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I fit right in with the other young people

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<v Speaker 1>because they were learning it all too And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>thinking to myself, I knew there was something else going

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<v Speaker 1>on here. I knew it. I knew it wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>what I could see, that there was a bigger picture.

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<v Speaker 1>I just felt like someone took me from the acorns

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<v Speaker 1>in the forest up to the airplane level and it

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<v Speaker 1>just completely fad and God just completely made sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm sitting in this Lutheran church every week,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had these cards about Capitol University, this little

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<v Speaker 1>Lutheran school college in Columbus. Again, the youth leaders are saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you should go to college, you should get a four

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<v Speaker 1>year degree. You could do it, you have good grades

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<v Speaker 1>in school. So I fill out this card at church

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<v Speaker 1>and put in the offering plate, and Kathleen University starts

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<v Speaker 1>sending me back in the day paper mail, and I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>we would love to have you at our school. So

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<v Speaker 1>as I get into college or get into high school,

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<v Speaker 1>I think to myself, well, Capital University wants me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm certainly going there. And I remember my guidance counselor

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<v Speaker 1>had a meeting with me and she said, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing after high school? And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go to Kaperney University. And she said,

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<v Speaker 1>have you applied to Capitol University because I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>any pain of work. And I said, well no, but

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<v Speaker 1>I've been email or email snail mail corresponding with them

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<v Speaker 1>for years. Certainly that's where I'm going in she said, well, dear,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to fill out an application. It's a private college,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's expensive. I don't know if your family can

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<v Speaker 1>afford that. You need to fill out some financial aid,

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<v Speaker 1>so she really walked me through it and encouraged me

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<v Speaker 1>to go to other schools just in case I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go there, Like applied to other schools just in case

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't let me in, And so I went. I

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<v Speaker 1>applied to Kent State, but I never went to visit

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<v Speaker 1>because I just knew I was going to Capital. So

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<v Speaker 1>I got into Capital, and I say a lot that

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<v Speaker 1>was a whole testament of God because my parents, my

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<v Speaker 1>dad never was able to pay anything for my school.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom was single mom at that time. She could

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<v Speaker 1>pay a little bit, but she could not have paid

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<v Speaker 1>the full amount of a private school. And they had

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<v Speaker 1>said to me, if you keep your grades up, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you can go here all four years. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I got hell grants. I got scholarships from people

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<v Speaker 1>that I wrote thank you letters to that I never met. Somehow,

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<v Speaker 1>I went to college for four years and had about

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<v Speaker 1>six thousand dollars worth of debt when I left. It

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<v Speaker 1>was amazing, wow, And that was an amazing experience because

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<v Speaker 1>I went to a new city, a much larger city

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<v Speaker 1>than Toledo, and met tons of people who really were

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<v Speaker 1>influential in my life. Professors and students and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what to study, but I liked economics and sociology

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<v Speaker 1>and public speaking, so they said, well, why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>just do all that? So that's what I studied, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's your degree in?

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<v Speaker 1>My major was economics and then had miners in public

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<v Speaker 1>speaking and sociology.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a minor in public speaking. That's very cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was really fun because people said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>most people don't want to speak in front of people,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, I love to. So they said you

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<v Speaker 1>should study that.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, So what do you go do for a living

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<v Speaker 2>out of college?

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<v Speaker 1>What happens next economics? People thought banking seemed like a

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<v Speaker 1>good next step for me. So I applied at Huntington

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<v Speaker 1>National Bank and I worked there for eight years and

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<v Speaker 1>again great experience. Met a ton of really wonderful mentors,

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<v Speaker 1>people who poured into me and gave me advice on

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<v Speaker 1>how to grow my career. Every nine to twelve months,

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<v Speaker 1>I applied for another position and kept going in the bank.

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<v Speaker 1>I went through a management training program. It just I

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<v Speaker 1>finally got to corporate training and I loved it. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to corporate training and I really figured out that

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy explaining something to someone. When I can see

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<v Speaker 1>the light bulb go off and they get it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of like right now you with me, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>be right back. So the point is, you grow up,

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<v Speaker 2>you overachieve where your life started and came from. You

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<v Speaker 2>clearly have developed a faith that has helped guiding you.

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<v Speaker 2>You have this interesting relationship with godparents, and I assume

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere along here you get married, right yep? Is that

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<v Speaker 2>banking time?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? That was in college my very final year in college,

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<v Speaker 1>I went home in the summers to live with my

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<v Speaker 1>mom in Toledo, and actually my dad before he passed away,

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<v Speaker 1>introduced me to who is now my husband for thirty

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<v Speaker 1>one years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this impsh thing, Yeah, the m Sky. Yeah, what's

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<v Speaker 2>the's name?

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<v Speaker 1>Scott?

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Scott, the m S guy.

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<v Speaker 3>It must be pretty great to overcome that last name.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So we're just establishing all of this is to

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<v Speaker 2>simply set up kind of who you are. You're a

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<v Speaker 2>person who grew up with a broken family, a godparent

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<v Speaker 2>you loved who had an impact on you stepdad. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it's one, two, three, four or five

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<v Speaker 2>step parent, but one of them introduced to the church,

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<v Speaker 2>and through the church, you end up in college and

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<v Speaker 2>you do a good job there and you're in a bank,

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<v Speaker 2>and you get married and you start in your family

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<v Speaker 2>and you have this quintessential normal folk American life clipping

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<v Speaker 2>or wrong up where they chocolate cover buckeyes. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>I had two children then, a daughter and a son,

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<v Speaker 1>and living in Lydia and Jared they live in and

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<v Speaker 1>we lived in Hilliard again, that suburb of Columbus, and

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<v Speaker 1>just doing our thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing your thing, lovely, rewarding, blessed, but like most people,

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<v Speaker 2>fairly unremarkable, and nobody's really taken note of your life

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<v Speaker 2>except you, because that's what we all do. Yep, A

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<v Speaker 2>normal person, normal folks and Midwest living in an Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>life and probably loving life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. And then I was tutoring in the inner

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<v Speaker 1>city at a school because one of my best friends

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<v Speaker 1>was a principal there, and she basically was begging for

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<v Speaker 1>people to come help because over ninety percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>children got a free reduced lunch. They were facing poverty.

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<v Speaker 1>She had some Somali Bantu children who came to town

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<v Speaker 1>and they had never seen a flush toilet. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to even use a bathroom. So she was

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<v Speaker 1>just begging people from her life, her church, to say,

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<v Speaker 1>would you come and help tutor mentor these children? They

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<v Speaker 1>need more grown ups in their lives who can just

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<v Speaker 1>love them. So I'd been doing that for a seen years.

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<v Speaker 2>Pepe speaking of children who probably came from trauma. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Samoian children uprooted from Samoya, dropped in Ohio. And here's

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<v Speaker 2>a toilet. This is toilet paper. And oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>the world is nothing like what you've grown up to

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<v Speaker 2>and let's be honest, Samoia is not the safest place

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, so they'd probably seen all kinds of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, So I had been volunteering there for some

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<v Speaker 1>years and then.

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<v Speaker 2>This again in your unremarkable normal life, but just doing

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<v Speaker 2>some gift back at this.

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<v Speaker 1>Point, Yeah, because after that experience in Appalachia, we went

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<v Speaker 1>back and started a teen crisis telephone line. As teen

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<v Speaker 1>I just service and my religion went hand in hand

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<v Speaker 1>for me from day one. And so I'd been again

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<v Speaker 1>volunteering in this inner city school and that was two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and six. I was starting back in the school

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<v Speaker 1>year and I thought, well, I guess I can do

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<v Speaker 1>that again. And I felt like God laid in my heart,

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<v Speaker 1>bring your neighbors with you. And most of my neighbors

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<v Speaker 1>were just like me, Caucasian American women who had been

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<v Speaker 1>raising their children for many years, and most had not

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<v Speaker 1>gone back to work yet, and so I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>God was asked me to bring them, and I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they're going to want to go,

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<v Speaker 1>so I put it off. Finally I asked them. They

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<v Speaker 1>all said yes. So I drove them in my van

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<v Speaker 1>every week to tutor in the inner city. They weren't

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable driving themselves, so I took them with me and

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<v Speaker 1>we tutored. And then my dad died suddenly the Monday

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<v Speaker 1>before Thanksgiving of two thousand and six, suddenly, and we

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<v Speaker 1>had been estrange. She was an alcoholic. I didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>get to say goodbye. It was pretty had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of grief with it. And one of the women that

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<v Speaker 1>I was taking with me to tutor, she came to

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<v Speaker 1>me in December and she said, what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>happens when someone dies? Because her mother was diagnosed with

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<v Speaker 1>stage four cancer and was terminal, and she knew my

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<v Speaker 1>dad had just died. And I started telling her about

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<v Speaker 1>my faith and where my hope comes from, and what

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<v Speaker 1>I believe happens when you die, and what God had

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<v Speaker 1>shown me about my dad, and so we had this

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<v Speaker 1>whole conversation, and I said to her, there's this thing

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<v Speaker 1>at my church for people have questions, and you sound

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<v Speaker 1>like you have questions. I've been a Christian since middle school.

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<v Speaker 1>I still have questions. Would you want to come with me?

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Alpha. It's dinner. We can kind of get

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<v Speaker 1>away from our kids and our husbands and just have

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<v Speaker 1>a night out once a week and have dinner. Would

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<v Speaker 1>you want to come with me? And she said, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I would want to come with you, and so we

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<v Speaker 1>started that in January. It's eighteen weeks and accumulates in

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<v Speaker 1>this Holy Spirit Retreat at the end. And I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>she's not going to want to go to the Holy

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<v Speaker 1>Spirit Retreat. She's completely on churched lady. I thought that'll

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<v Speaker 1>seem too churchy for her. And she called me and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go to that weekend at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, okay, we're going. So we went to

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend and they challenged her, you know, after eighteen weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>lots of discussion, lots of information, would you want to

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<v Speaker 1>just say a prayer that goes something like this, God,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're real, show me, like, show me that you're real?

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<v Speaker 1>And she said I'd like to do that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they said, to people like me who'd been a Christian

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<v Speaker 1>since middle school, maybe you'd like to pray God light

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<v Speaker 1>my heart on fire in a whole new way. And

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, okay, I've prayed a lot, but I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>prayed like that. So I said that prayer. March thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and seven, and I went home and didn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel any different, went back to work Monday, didn't feel

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<v Speaker 1>any different. And then on March fourteenth, so eleven days later.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe you remember the dates.

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<v Speaker 1>So powerful, the dates. God has used those dates again

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<v Speaker 1>in my life, that's while they're ingrained in my brain.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a Saturday, March third, by the way, and

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<v Speaker 1>so March eleventh, I learned that there were twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty eight children in my suburban town who are

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<v Speaker 1>getting your free reduced lunch. And I was completely blown

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<v Speaker 1>away by that.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about that. This is the at the top,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, there's a phrase it kind of turns the

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<v Speaker 2>national narrative a little bit on its ear. And is

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<v Speaker 2>this what is it? Suburban?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you call it suburban poverty?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that doesn't sound right. It's supposed to be urban

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<v Speaker 2>poverty and white flight to the suburbs and everything's okay

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<v Speaker 2>in the suburb. And what you discovered is suburban poverty. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't you explain that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was sitting at a wooden desk in my house

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<v Speaker 1>when I called the school district and said, how many

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<v Speaker 1>children get a free lunch in the suburb? Of Hilliard,

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<v Speaker 1>the ninth largest school district in the state of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>And they satuted a suburb of Columbus, a university town,

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<v Speaker 2>which typically means fairly affluent, well paid, clean sidewalks, no blight,

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<v Speaker 2>and then a suburb of that place should be really nice. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And they said, well, good news, it's only fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>point seven percent. And I said, well, I stayed economics,

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<v Speaker 1>you can do a lot with percentages. How many human

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<v Speaker 1>beings is that, because we're not talking about ballpoint pens here,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about people, children with faces and names. And

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<v Speaker 1>they said, well, we'll have to call you back. And

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<v Speaker 1>they called me back and said, well, it's twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty eight. And I was shocked. I was grieved.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt a call in my life in that exact

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<v Speaker 1>instant to do two things. One love, serve and feed

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<v Speaker 1>the children facing poverty in my town body, mind and spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>And two bring the community with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Tie the unchurched lady that went through the eighteen weeks

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<v Speaker 2>and said the prayer to the story, she.

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<v Speaker 1>Was really involved and helped. I mean, as this started

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<v Speaker 1>happening in my life, I mean, she cared a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Is she has become a Christian. She's been

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<v Speaker 1>involved in women's Bible study for years and years and

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<v Speaker 1>years now. And her son even went to a Christian

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<v Speaker 1>college in Michigan and she was she's been an encourager

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<v Speaker 1>to me since then.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty incredible. All right. So I'm no economist. You are,

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<v Speaker 2>so I gotta be careful with what I say because

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<v Speaker 2>you'll probably come up with some fancy economic statistic metrics

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<v Speaker 2>that makes me stupid. But here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Two thousand and what or two thousand and seven?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, twenty one hundred and.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh fifty eight children suburban?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, out of if that's fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Percent, it's about sixteen thousand total students.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, twenty one hundred and something is a big number,

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<v Speaker 2>But when you think of it, out of sixteen, that's

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<v Speaker 2>one in eight. One in eight suburban children are growing

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<v Speaker 2>up in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and now it's much higher.

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<v Speaker 2>It can't be true.

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<v Speaker 1>It's much higher. Now it's over thirty percent.

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<v Speaker 2>But hang tight, that cannot be true. The news doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>say that. I know. The images we see all day

0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:19.800
<v Speaker 2>every day about children in poverty look like stuff on

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<v Speaker 2>the inner city, Memphis and Queens and Albuquerque, pick a town,

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<v Speaker 2>and the movies depict heavily black and brown high schools

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<v Speaker 2>where there's poverty and gangs, and that's where the free

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<v Speaker 2>lunches are, not in suburbia.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I thought too.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is two thousand and seven. So you said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going back what you said. Immediately you decided three

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<v Speaker 2>things that you wanted to do here, which was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I felt like God was calling me to love,

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<v Speaker 1>serve and feed those children body, mind and spirit, and secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>to bring the community with.

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<v Speaker 2>Me right there. Yeah, okay, So what happened when you

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<v Speaker 2>told mister.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny because I couldn't. I was so obsessed thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about it. That's how I knew it was the answer

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<v Speaker 1>to that prayer eleven days prior, because I was I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>The last thing I thought of when I was falling asleep.

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<v Speaker 1>The first thing I thought of when I woke up

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning was could this possibly be true? And

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<v Speaker 1>what am I going to do about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I asked myself that for about a decade, Why me?

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like God showed me that Why me?

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<v Speaker 1>And it ties back to that community that the church

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:50.119
<v Speaker 1>youth group provided for me. God taught me about the

0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 1>aces study. Now is lovely science that proves it. But

0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:57.560
<v Speaker 1>a loving, supportive community like that can heal people from

0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 1>their trauma. And that's what God, you know, to heal.

0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:06.119
<v Speaker 2>How would you know? How would how would the child

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:11.639
<v Speaker 2>who grew up in trauma healed by a church community?

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 2>How would you know?

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>That?

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 2>It's a very personal thing, isn't it.

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's the blessing you don't know you need that

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 1>you get exactly at the right moment of your life.

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:28.959
<v Speaker 1>And and he showed me. I taught you that community,

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:31.919
<v Speaker 1>and I healed you in it, and I want you

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:36.159
<v Speaker 1>to create that exact community for thousands and thousands of people.

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:58.439
<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back your story. But I'm just going

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:01.480
<v Speaker 2>to tell you. People will have hatted me on the

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:05.200
<v Speaker 2>back and congratulated me. They've actually made an Oscar winning

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:08.159
<v Speaker 2>movie about it. I speak around the country about it.

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:10.920
<v Speaker 2>I've written a book about it, and people always want

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 2>to pat me on the back about all this football

0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:16.919
<v Speaker 2>coach and stuff that I've done, and I don't I

0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:20.120
<v Speaker 2>still don't think people really get it. I tell them

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 2>it has been the salve to the trauma that damn

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 2>near broke my spirit. I know you do I can

0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 2>hear it and see it in your face when you

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 2>talk about this. And we haven't even gotten into it yet,

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:37.159
<v Speaker 2>but I completely get why you. But I want our

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 2>listeners to understand why you're crying. I'm sure it's okay.

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 2>You still feel it all, don't you.

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so do I.

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.360
<v Speaker 2>So do I. It's something about that kind of trauma

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 2>that you learn to cope with and deal with and

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.640
<v Speaker 2>compensate for, but you never fully get over it.

0:27:57.119 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Just layers of grief. And I think that's I

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 1>as an adult. There's so many people, for so many reasons,

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 1>that carry around layers of grief for all kinds of reasons,

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's a connection point that builds really deep

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 1>relationships with lots of people.

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 2>For sure, so irety stricken, suburban kids. It's one thing

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 2>to know a number, it's another thing to have a face. Yeah,

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:28.880
<v Speaker 2>will tell me about how that happened.

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>So I used my really big mouth to tell as

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 1>many people.

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 2>You have a minor in it, you're supposed to use

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 2>your big mouth. You were, you were.

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Educated in how Yeah, teachers, you didn't.

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Answer a question. I'm sorry, I what did Scott say? Oh?

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Because I know what my family. You have two beautiful

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 2>children and a husband who loves you have been married

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 2>to for thirty years now but less back then. But

0:28:55.880 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 2>still I have the same Did they under stand what

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 2>they were bargaining and reckoning for when you decided you

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 2>were going to love certain feed and bring the community along?

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what was their initial reaction?

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think any of us knew clearly where this

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 1>was headed. But I had said, God, if you're going

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 1>to get a hold of my heart for this, you're

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 1>going to need to get a hold of my immediate

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>family's hearts for this, because being a wife and a

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 1>mother is of utmost importance to me and I'm not

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 1>going to sacrifice that for this. So I would not

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:39.959
<v Speaker 1>to get a hold of their hearts too. If you

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 1>really want me to do this, and that has definitely happened,

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>it is I say all the time, it's been a

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 1>family affair. They have been with me, arm in arm

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 1>with me from day one and still are after eighteen years.

0:29:55.800 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 1>So I can motivate people, I hope around things that

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 1>are really important in life, but I can't motivate those

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 1>three people. The only explanation is that God drew them

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>as much as he drew me to this cause.

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 2>So but a face to it. Now, Okay, you're awakened

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 2>to this. Yeah, you feel like it's an answer to

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 2>a prayer. So now you feel called. You have a

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 2>goal that just popped in your head to love, serve,

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 2>and feed and bring the community with you. But right

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 2>now it's numbers. How does it first start becoming a

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 2>face and fully with the backdrop understanding that you very

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 2>deeply in your soul feel this because you know what

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 2>that trauma is.

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I worked part time for a church, so that's the

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 1>timing of that was really perfect because it's a big church,

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest Lutheran churches in the country, and

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 1>so I had a reported directly to the senior pastor.

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 1>So I started straight away saying to him, I feel

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 1>his call in my life. There's this huge problem in

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 1>our town. I feel called to do something about it.

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.720
<v Speaker 1>And he was like, okay, let me know what you

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 1>figure out, and so gim me abreast and so then

0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I wrote, I went to the Chamber of Commerce, learned

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 1>they were twenty two churches in town. Because I thought,

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>we'll bring the community with me. What does that mean.

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 1>I've always served at my church but it didn't say

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 1>bring your church with you. In my mind, it was

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 1>bring the community with you. So I wrote letters to

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty two churches and said, here's the problem I found

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:37.719
<v Speaker 1>in our town. Twenty one hundred fifty children facing poverty

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 1>getting a free lunch and then hungry all summer. Because

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I never asked Bill. All the tutoring I did at

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 1>that inner city school, I knew they got a free lunch.

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I knew it. I never asked them what do you

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 1>do in the summer.

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 2>That's the big question. Oh my gosh, when you just

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 2>said it, it's huge. Great, they get a free lunch

0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 2>during the school. What do they do during the summer.

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 1>It's twelve weeks. It is twelve weeks that it's gone.

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>It's a one in fact is friend reduce lunch is

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 1>the second best way we feed people in our country

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 1>after food stamps. It works great now, it's breakfast and lunch.

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 1>It's lovely, but it stops for twelve weeks in the summer.

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 1>And that's where I knew the gap was in understanding this.

0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Then I learn when they are gathering food, what kind

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 2>of food is it? Yeah, it's cheese puffs and whatever

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 2>you can get your hands on.

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the Oh they're ugly underbelly. Yeah, it's the

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 1>unhealthy food in the store. I mean it's the cheap

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 1>stuff at the cheapest grocery stores that the family can

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 1>spread along the summer.

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 2>So the question is not just rhetorical, what did you

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 2>find out that these kids do? What were not unrhetorically

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 2>what did you find out that kids do? Poverty stricken

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 2>kids from the suburb who depend on that free lunch

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 2>probably the best meal that get the day, what do

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 2>they do during the summer? Not rhetorically, actually what did

0:32:57.400 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 2>you find out? Well?

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I found out in the urban city there were these

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 1>things called free summer lunch camps, and in fact, in

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the inner city where I had been tutoring, there were

0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 1>two or three within walking distance from the school where

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I was shooting. So a child could choose, I could

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>want to go to this one or this one, and

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 1>they could get them their hunger needs and likely camp

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 1>needs met in the urban city. Then I looked in

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:25.239
<v Speaker 1>suburbia and there was nothing, literally nothing. Then I did

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 1>some research. I learned that the Brookings Institute had done

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 1>a study in two thousand and five that showed there

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:33.920
<v Speaker 1>were more human beings, children and families living in poverty

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 1>in the suburbs than in the urban cities in the

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 1>United States of America.

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, when I read that, I was like, what come on?

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 2>There are more poverty stricken children in the suburbs than

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 2>there is the urban areas in our country.

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Since two thousand and five, they proved it was that.

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Well.

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 1>I met a historian one time and I said to

0:33:56.440 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 1>him all of this, and he said, Kim, do you

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 1>ever watch HGTV? I said, of course, Guilty Pleasure. He said,

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:06.240
<v Speaker 1>you ever watched the European version? I said, of course,

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Guilty Pleasure. And he said, so in Europe when you're

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>watching that show and someone's in England or France, what

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 1>city are they in? I said, Paris and London. He

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:16.919
<v Speaker 1>said exactly. He said, no, the people on the show

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 1>have money, otherwise they wouldn't be on the show. And

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 1>they're in the biggest cities in those countries. That's where

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 1>they're looking for their housing. He said, Europe is older

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>than America. Money started in the inner city, it moved out,

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Doubt and Abbey, it's moved back in. He said. Our country,

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 1>United States is young. This is the first time we've

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 1>ever done it. When we started our country, money was

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:40.279
<v Speaker 1>in the inner city. Then it moved out suburbia, and

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 1>now it's moving back in. So wherever wealth moves, poverty

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:45.240
<v Speaker 1>moves in the opposite direction.

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's interesting. So what this historian is telling you

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:57.919
<v Speaker 2>about economics macro economics of our country is money moved out.

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Now money is moving back in, and it's leaving behind

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:04.240
<v Speaker 2>poverty in suburbia.

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Right, well, and pushing poverty out of the urban cities

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:09.719
<v Speaker 1>or school is wrong.

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 2>It's not leaving it because money's coming in. It's pushing.

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 2>It's gentrification.

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 1>It's right, that's right.

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 2>It's now I'm coming up with the phrase. But it's

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 2>almost what it's reversed. It's almost completely mind shifted. You

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:32.320
<v Speaker 2>think of gentrification as coming into some historical or older

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 2>community building, making the building is so expensive that the

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:41.879
<v Speaker 2>people have to leave, Right, But here's the question where

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 2>do they go? That's right, And you're saying they're getting

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:51.800
<v Speaker 2>pushed into quote suburbia, right, Is that that's really the fact.

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 1>That's it, that's it, that's right.

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 2>And so where are the kids from Hillard being pushed

0:35:57.080 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 2>from Columbus? Is that really it? Yes?

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Yep, and all the other suburbs around. So there are

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 1>another nine ten other suburbs around Columbus And it's the

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:11.839
<v Speaker 1>same way. In fact, all the lovely little lines that

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 1>people draw on maps. So half of the children who

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:18.400
<v Speaker 1>live in Columbus City proper go to suburban schools.

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:23.359
<v Speaker 2>Why, how how does that work? District wise? I would think,

0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 2>if you're registered for a district, how do you go

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 2>to suburban school?

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? It's all these lines on maps. So the suburban town,

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 1>for example, Hilliard is about fourteen zero point seven eighty

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:40.360
<v Speaker 1>nine square miles. That's that's it. It's a tiny little town.

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:43.480
<v Speaker 1>The school district is sixty square miles.

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:47.319
<v Speaker 2>The Hilliard school district is four times the size of

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:52.320
<v Speaker 2>the town itself. Right, So is it bringing in poverty

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:54.839
<v Speaker 2>stricten kids into the school system.

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's so the map of these school districts, it

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:00.879
<v Speaker 1>used to be where the school and the city were

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 1>perfectly lined up.

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the families and the community were around it, right,

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 2>and we have.

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Lost that, right, it's much The school districts are much

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:13.800
<v Speaker 1>larger than the cities, and so they encompass a larger

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 1>geograggraphic area, and so you have some children living in

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Columbus who are facing poverty, who go to Hilliard schools.

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 1>But you also have apartment complex, trailer parks, duplexes, which

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 1>again I think is lovely city planning quite honestly, because

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 1>mixedosoeconomic environment is really healthy for everyone. But in that

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 1>scenario in suburbia, there are people who live in the

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 1>city of Hilliard who are facing poverty too. So it's

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 1>not just the Columbus children, it's also some Hilliard children.

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:48.200
<v Speaker 1>But again it's that regentrification of the urban community that

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 1>is shifting a huge population shift in our country.

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:57.440
<v Speaker 2>All Right, the study test, as it pertains to you,

0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 2>is Columbus Hillard. But this to be true than in

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Memphis and South Haven and Little Rock in North Little

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Rock or Jacksonville or I'm just trying to pick places

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:13.520
<v Speaker 2>I know, but pretty much every urban area has a

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:18.319
<v Speaker 2>suburban area. And you would argue then that this population

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:22.320
<v Speaker 2>shift is happening in all of these areas across our country,

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:26.240
<v Speaker 2>leaving poverty stricken suburban children.

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's what Brookings Institute has shown. It wasn't

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 1>just a study on Columbus. It was a national United

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 1>States study that showed that poverty had moved from not

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent. Let me be clear, there are still

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:44.759
<v Speaker 1>poverty in urban cities for sure, but their point is

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 1>there are more human beings living in poverty in the

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:50.120
<v Speaker 1>suburbs than in the urban cities, which again is an

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 1>enormous populationship that our country has not seen before.

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<v Speaker 3>Well an example where your kids are at. I think

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<v Speaker 3>there's actually a decent amount in Arlington and Alexandria too,

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<v Speaker 3>outside of DC. Really, there's actually amount of poverty in

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<v Speaker 3>Arlington and Alexandria.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you think of Arlington and Alexandria.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's nice there's nice areas there too, but there's

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<v Speaker 3>also a lot of poverty.

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<v Speaker 2>There's both. Yeah. I would just think when you hear that,

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, really, because you think of young white professionals.

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<v Speaker 3>City school districts are actually not good in a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of Arlington and Alexandria.

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<v Speaker 2>Really yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I challenge people to just call their school district. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>as a tax beayer, as a parent, you can call

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<v Speaker 1>your school district and say how many children get a

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<v Speaker 1>free reduced lunch not percentage but number of human.

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<v Speaker 2>Beings and you might be shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you'd be shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm shocked. I'm standing here beside myself. I am shocked,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. So that sets up the facts about the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>We still hadn't put a face to it. We still

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't figured out what love, certain feed and bring the

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<v Speaker 2>community means in Kim's world eighteen years ago through today.

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<v Speaker 2>And we will learn all all of that and more

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<v Speaker 2>in Part two that's now available to listen to. Together, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>we can change the country, but it starts with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll see in Part two.