1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: All the tutoring I did at that inner city school, 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: I knew they got a free lunch. I knew it. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: I never asked them, what are you doing in the summer? 4 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 2: Welcome to an army of normal volks. I'm Bill Courtney. 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 2: I'm a normal guy. I'm a husband, I'm a father, 6 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: I'm an entrepreneur, and I've been a football coach in 7 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: inner city of Memphis. And that last part is somehow 8 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 2: led to an oscar for the film about our team. 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: It's called Undefeated. I believe our country's problems will never 10 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: be solved by a bunch of fancy people in nice 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: suits using big words that nobody ever uses on CNN 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: and fogs, but rather by an army of normal votes. 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: That's us, just you and me deciding, Hey, you know what, 14 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: maybe I can help. That's what Kim impsch the voice. 15 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: You just heard his stuff. Well, she found out that 16 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: thousands of kids in her suburban community were going hungry 17 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: in this summer. Kim couldn't look away from the problem, 18 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: and she dove in. Her nonprofit Festa now feeds over 19 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: eight hundred children in the summer. But as Kim puts it, 20 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 2: they don't just want to help people live a little 21 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: bit better in poverty. So they serve over eleven hundred 22 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: people with after school tutoring in English as the second 23 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: language classes to help their families escape pography. I can't 24 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 2: wait for you to meet Kim right after these brief 25 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: messages from our general sponsors, Kim Impsh, Welcome to Memphis. 26 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 27 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: Phil emcch pronounced impsh. What on God's green planet is that? 28 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: My husband I actually have whole conversations about this. His 29 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: family swears it's Swiss, but I understand that half of 30 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: the people in Swiss speak German, so I think it 31 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: was that side. 32 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: So your husband has no idea. 33 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: Really, I tease them that they have no idea. 34 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're from an interesting place that I think 35 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 2: when you grow up there you have to drink scarlet 36 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: and silver juice. Just outside of this place called Columbus, Ohio, 37 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 2: where they seem to worship a football team. 38 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: They do, the Ohio State Buckeyes. 39 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's a buckeye? Isn't that like a pea or something? 40 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: It's a nut from a tree. It's a what it's 41 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: a nut from a tree? I see comes off of 42 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: a tree. And we also make them into candies of 43 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: chocolate peanut butter, which are delicious. 44 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: Are they really all? Right? Well, Kim imps everybody from 45 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: the Columbus area. She's actually from Hillard, Ohio, which is 46 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: a suburb. And fair warning, we're going to go through 47 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: Kim's story, but you're going to hear some terminology today 48 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 2: that you've probably never heard. And before I read all 49 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:18,279 Speaker 2: about you, I guess I probably knew this thing existed, 50 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: but I wasn't really in tune with it. And I 51 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: think not only the work that you do and all 52 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: that you've all it's evolved, which obviously we're gonna unpack, 53 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: I think is incredibly interesting, but just the genesis of 54 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: it is eye opening and I think something we can 55 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: all learn from. But before we get to that, as 56 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: everybody knows, we're going to learn a little bit about you. 57 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: Tell me about you, where you come from? And you 58 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: and I, by the way, I don't know if you 59 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: know my story, but you and I have something in 60 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: very incommon in terms of the way we came up. 61 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: But so go with little Kim. Where from what did 62 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: growing up as Kim? What was your maiden names? Well, 63 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: you go from Woods to ips. Oh my goodness, tell 64 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: me about what Kim Woods looks like. 65 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: Coming up, I grew up in Mammy, Ohio, a suburb 66 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: of Toledo, and I experienced five divorces by my parents 67 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: by the time I was seventeen, and growing up in 68 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: a suburb, I had godparents who were from Spanish was 69 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: their first language, and I was completely unchurched until middle school. 70 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: The godparents was that from mom's friends, god's friends, Mom's. 71 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: Friends, mom's friends. 72 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: Yep, how did I don't know how, Jorn, I'm not 73 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 2: going to ask, but I would think back then that 74 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: having Spanish speaking friends was unique. 75 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: I think about that often because you know in your 76 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: childhood what is normal to you is normal to you. 77 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: Right when you grew up and meet people as an adult, 78 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: you realize it was maybe unique. So I think it 79 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: was unique. My godfather was from Mexico and he became 80 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: a juvenile court judge in Toledo, Judge Joe Flores, and 81 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: so I remember every time he campaigned, we had these 82 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: bright yellow shirts with the black writing vote for Judge Flores, 83 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: and they actually he's passed and there's a street named 84 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: after him in downtown Toledo. So he was very passionate. 85 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: He grew up at the YMCA. He grew up that 86 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: was the YMCA, was his extracurricular, his group of friends, 87 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: his safe place, and of course then he wanted to 88 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: give back and pour into young people. So that was 89 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: definitely very left a huge lasting impression on me. 90 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 2: Clearly, that's your godfather. So I am the product of 91 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: five divorces on my mom's side and three on my 92 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: father sad. So you said your parents had five divorces. 93 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: What was that like for you? 94 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, very tumultuous, I mean, very life shaking, trying to 95 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: figure out who's here, who's coming, who's leaving, lots of greed, 96 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: lots of loss, and trying to navigate it and figure 97 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: out where my place was in all of it, and 98 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: who could be trusted, who could be depended on. It 99 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: was rough. 100 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: Did you experience in yourself an unwillingness to trust consistency? 101 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: Hmm, that's a great question. I would say being expecting 102 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: or being ready for the next big crisis became sort 103 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: of a norm for me for sure. My last stepfather 104 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: from my mom took us to church when I was 105 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: in middle school, and that was definitely life changing for me. 106 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: Because we didn't even though I had godparents and I 107 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: had been baptized when I was two or three, but 108 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: we didn't go to church. We didn't We weren't around 109 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: people who were Christians, or I didn't know. I didn't 110 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: know what I didn't know. And as he took us 111 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: to church at a little Lutheran church in Mommy. Later 112 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: on I learned that it was called youth group, but 113 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: I just knew it was this group of people who 114 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: were inviting me to hang out with them. And it 115 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: was some youth leaders, some adults who actually were studying 116 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: to become doctors. I don't know how they found the 117 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: time to run this group, and then a bunch of teenagers, 118 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: mostly from my school. But we hung out and it 119 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: was a great community for me, and they started saying 120 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: things to me like, oh my gosh, you are a 121 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: natural leader and started honing my leadership. They said, you're 122 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: smart in your studious you could go to college. No 123 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: one my family had been to college. And I just 124 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: loved being there. I loved going there. We went to 125 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: Appalachia to retar coal miners' homes for a service trip, 126 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: and I'll never forget I'm standing on the roof in 127 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: the valley of the Appalachian Mountains. It's one hundred and 128 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: ten degrees, no breeze, huge humidity, humidity. I'm standing on 129 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: this roof, tarring this roof, and the owner comes out, 130 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: little old man with white hair, with an oxygen tank, 131 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: and he's praying for me on the roof. And that's 132 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: when I learned that serving God is this three hundred 133 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: and sixty degree circle where everyone has a need and 134 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: everyone can give. 135 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: That's kind of cool. Did that stepdad hang around for 136 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: the rest of your life or was he another divorced person. 137 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: They divorced, but I still have a relationship. 138 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: With him, So clearly not affluent. Nobody's graduated from college, 139 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: you said, Is that right? Right? 140 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: My mom went to nurses training and so she was 141 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: a registered nurse. She always had a good job. She 142 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: could always find a job, and it was always a 143 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: good job. So we I was never worried about food, clothing, 144 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: or shelter. I wasn't worried about those things. 145 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: Got it. So a little bit of chaos, a little 146 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: bit of trauma, probably some disassociation. And the only reason 147 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,479 Speaker 2: I'm saying all those things is because I'm just projecting 148 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: on you what I experienced, and you're shaking your head 149 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: up and down. So I guess that experience growing up 150 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: that way leaves those impressions. Church obviously became integral in 151 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: how it formed the way you thought and clearly which 152 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: I didn't know. The relationship with your godparents I think 153 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: also was formulative, which is interesting. So what do you do? 154 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: Do you go to college? What happens? 155 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm in this Lutheran church going to this again. 156 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: What I learned later was a youth group getting confirmed 157 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: because in middle school and Lutheran religion, they're teaching you 158 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: everything and I knew nothing. So it was perfect timing. 159 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: But I fit right in with the other young people 160 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: because they were learning it all too And I remember 161 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, I knew there was something else going 162 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: on here. I knew it. I knew it wasn't just 163 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: what I could see, that there was a bigger picture. 164 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: I just felt like someone took me from the acorns 165 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: in the forest up to the airplane level and it 166 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: just completely fad and God just completely made sense to me. 167 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: And so I'm sitting in this Lutheran church every week, 168 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: and they had these cards about Capitol University, this little 169 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: Lutheran school college in Columbus. Again, the youth leaders are saying, 170 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: you should go to college, you should get a four 171 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: year degree. You could do it, you have good grades 172 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: in school. So I fill out this card at church 173 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: and put in the offering plate, and Kathleen University starts 174 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: sending me back in the day paper mail, and I'm saying, 175 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: we would love to have you at our school. So 176 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: as I get into college or get into high school, 177 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: I think to myself, well, Capital University wants me, and 178 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm certainly going there. And I remember my guidance counselor 179 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: had a meeting with me and she said, you know 180 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: what are you doing after high school? And I said, well, 181 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to go to Kaperney University. And she said, 182 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: have you applied to Capitol University because I don't see 183 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: any pain of work. And I said, well no, but 184 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: I've been email or email snail mail corresponding with them 185 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: for years. Certainly that's where I'm going in she said, well, dear, 186 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: you need to fill out an application. It's a private college, 187 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: so it's expensive. I don't know if your family can 188 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: afford that. You need to fill out some financial aid, 189 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: so she really walked me through it and encouraged me 190 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: to go to other schools just in case I didn't 191 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: go there, Like applied to other schools just in case 192 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: they didn't let me in, And so I went. I 193 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: applied to Kent State, but I never went to visit 194 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: because I just knew I was going to Capital. So 195 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: I got into Capital, and I say a lot that 196 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: was a whole testament of God because my parents, my 197 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: dad never was able to pay anything for my school. 198 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: My mom was single mom at that time. She could 199 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: pay a little bit, but she could not have paid 200 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: the full amount of a private school. And they had 201 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: said to me, if you keep your grades up, we'll 202 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: make sure you can go here all four years. And 203 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: so I got hell grants. I got scholarships from people 204 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: that I wrote thank you letters to that I never met. Somehow, 205 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: I went to college for four years and had about 206 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: six thousand dollars worth of debt when I left. It 207 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: was amazing, wow, And that was an amazing experience because 208 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: I went to a new city, a much larger city 209 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: than Toledo, and met tons of people who really were 210 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: influential in my life. Professors and students and I didn't 211 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: know what to study, but I liked economics and sociology 212 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: and public speaking, so they said, well, why don't you 213 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: just do all that? So that's what I studied, and 214 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: I just enjoyed it. 215 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 2: So what's your degree in? 216 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: My major was economics and then had miners in public 217 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: speaking and sociology. 218 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: There's a minor in public speaking. That's very cool. 219 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: I thought it was really fun because people said, you know, 220 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: most people don't want to speak in front of people, 221 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: and I said, I love to. So they said you 222 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: should study that. 223 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: Then, So what do you go do for a living 224 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: out of college? 225 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: What happens next economics? People thought banking seemed like a 226 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: good next step for me. So I applied at Huntington 227 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: National Bank and I worked there for eight years and 228 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 1: again great experience. Met a ton of really wonderful mentors, 229 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: people who poured into me and gave me advice on 230 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: how to grow my career. Every nine to twelve months, 231 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: I applied for another position and kept going in the bank. 232 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: I went through a management training program. It just I 233 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: finally got to corporate training and I loved it. I 234 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: got to corporate training and I really figured out that 235 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: I enjoy explaining something to someone. When I can see 236 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: the light bulb go off and they get it. 237 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: That's kind of like right now you with me, I'm like, oh, 238 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 2: I get that. And now a few messages from our 239 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 2: general sponsors. But first, our next live interview in Memphis 240 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 2: will be on June twelfth with Father Mark Hannah. Father 241 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 2: Mark and a team of four other civilians saved over 242 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: fifty lives on nine to eleven, and the rest of 243 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: us team died while trying to save more people. After 244 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: nine to eleven, Mark became a Coptic priest and hence 245 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: the father title. It's part of our lunch and listen 246 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 2: series that we've been doing at Crosstown Concourses Myphis Listening Lab, 247 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: and you can learn more at RSVP at Fathermark dot 248 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: Eventwright dot com. We hope to see you there. We'll 249 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: be right back. So the point is, you grow up, 250 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: you overachieve where your life started and came from. You 251 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: clearly have developed a faith that has helped guiding you. 252 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: You have this interesting relationship with godparents, and I assume 253 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: somewhere along here you get married, right yep? Is that 254 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: banking time? 255 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? That was in college my very final year in college, 256 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: I went home in the summers to live with my 257 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: mom in Toledo, and actually my dad before he passed away, 258 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: introduced me to who is now my husband for thirty 259 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: one years. 260 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, this impsh thing, Yeah, the m Sky. Yeah, what's 261 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: the's name? 262 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: Scott? 263 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: Scott Scott, the m S guy. 264 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: It must be pretty great to overcome that last name. 265 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. So we're just establishing all of this is to 266 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: simply set up kind of who you are. You're a 267 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: person who grew up with a broken family, a godparent 268 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: you loved who had an impact on you stepdad. I 269 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: don't know if it's one, two, three, four or five 270 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: step parent, but one of them introduced to the church, 271 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: and through the church, you end up in college and 272 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: you do a good job there and you're in a bank, 273 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: and you get married and you start in your family 274 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: and you have this quintessential normal folk American life clipping 275 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: or wrong up where they chocolate cover buckeyes. Yep. 276 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: I had two children then, a daughter and a son, 277 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: and living in Lydia and Jared they live in and 278 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: we lived in Hilliard again, that suburb of Columbus, and 279 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: just doing our thing. 280 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: Doing your thing, lovely, rewarding, blessed, but like most people, 281 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: fairly unremarkable, and nobody's really taken note of your life 282 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: except you, because that's what we all do. Yep, A 283 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: normal person, normal folks and Midwest living in an Ohio 284 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: life and probably loving life. 285 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And then I was tutoring in the inner 286 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: city at a school because one of my best friends 287 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: was a principal there, and she basically was begging for 288 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: people to come help because over ninety percent of the 289 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: children got a free reduced lunch. They were facing poverty. 290 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: She had some Somali Bantu children who came to town 291 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: and they had never seen a flush toilet. They didn't 292 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: know how to even use a bathroom. So she was 293 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: just begging people from her life, her church, to say, 294 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: would you come and help tutor mentor these children? They 295 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: need more grown ups in their lives who can just 296 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: love them. So I'd been doing that for a seen years. 297 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: Pepe speaking of children who probably came from trauma. Yeah, 298 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: Samoian children uprooted from Samoya, dropped in Ohio. And here's 299 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 2: a toilet. This is toilet paper. And oh, by the way, 300 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: the world is nothing like what you've grown up to 301 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 2: and let's be honest, Samoia is not the safest place 302 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 2: in the world, so they'd probably seen all kinds of stuff. 303 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So I had been volunteering there for some 304 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: years and then. 305 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: This again in your unremarkable normal life, but just doing 306 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 2: some gift back at this. 307 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: Point, Yeah, because after that experience in Appalachia, we went 308 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: back and started a teen crisis telephone line. As teen 309 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: I just service and my religion went hand in hand 310 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: for me from day one. And so I'd been again 311 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: volunteering in this inner city school and that was two 312 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: thousand and six. I was starting back in the school 313 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: year and I thought, well, I guess I can do 314 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: that again. And I felt like God laid in my heart, 315 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: bring your neighbors with you. And most of my neighbors 316 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: were just like me, Caucasian American women who had been 317 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: raising their children for many years, and most had not 318 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: gone back to work yet, and so I felt like 319 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: God was asked me to bring them, and I thought, well, 320 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're going to want to go, 321 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: so I put it off. Finally I asked them. They 322 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: all said yes. So I drove them in my van 323 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: every week to tutor in the inner city. They weren't 324 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: comfortable driving themselves, so I took them with me and 325 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: we tutored. And then my dad died suddenly the Monday 326 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: before Thanksgiving of two thousand and six, suddenly, and we 327 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: had been estrange. She was an alcoholic. I didn't really 328 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: get to say goodbye. It was pretty had a lot 329 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: of grief with it. And one of the women that 330 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: I was taking with me to tutor, she came to 331 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: me in December and she said, what do you think 332 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: happens when someone dies? Because her mother was diagnosed with 333 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: stage four cancer and was terminal, and she knew my 334 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: dad had just died. And I started telling her about 335 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: my faith and where my hope comes from, and what 336 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: I believe happens when you die, and what God had 337 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: shown me about my dad, and so we had this 338 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: whole conversation, and I said to her, there's this thing 339 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: at my church for people have questions, and you sound 340 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: like you have questions. I've been a Christian since middle school. 341 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: I still have questions. Would you want to come with me? 342 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: It's called Alpha. It's dinner. We can kind of get 343 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: away from our kids and our husbands and just have 344 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: a night out once a week and have dinner. Would 345 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: you want to come with me? And she said, yes, 346 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: I would want to come with you, and so we 347 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: started that in January. It's eighteen weeks and accumulates in 348 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: this Holy Spirit Retreat at the end. And I thought, 349 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: she's not going to want to go to the Holy 350 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: Spirit Retreat. She's completely on churched lady. I thought that'll 351 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: seem too churchy for her. And she called me and said, hey, 352 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: I want to go to that weekend at the end, 353 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: and I thought, okay, we're going. So we went to 354 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: the weekend and they challenged her, you know, after eighteen weeks, 355 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: lots of discussion, lots of information, would you want to 356 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: just say a prayer that goes something like this, God, 357 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: if you're real, show me, like, show me that you're real? 358 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: And she said I'd like to do that. And then 359 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: they said, to people like me who'd been a Christian 360 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: since middle school, maybe you'd like to pray God light 361 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 1: my heart on fire in a whole new way. And 362 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: I thought, okay, I've prayed a lot, but I haven't 363 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: prayed like that. So I said that prayer. March thirty, 364 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, and I went home and didn't 365 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: feel any different, went back to work Monday, didn't feel 366 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: any different. And then on March fourteenth, so eleven days later. 367 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 2: I believe you remember the dates. 368 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: So powerful, the dates. God has used those dates again 369 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: in my life, that's while they're ingrained in my brain. 370 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: It was a Saturday, March third, by the way, and 371 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: so March eleventh, I learned that there were twenty one 372 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: and fifty eight children in my suburban town who are 373 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: getting your free reduced lunch. And I was completely blown 374 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: away by that. 375 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 2: So let's talk about that. This is the at the top, 376 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 2: I said, there's a phrase it kind of turns the 377 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: national narrative a little bit on its ear. And is 378 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: this what is it? Suburban? 379 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: What do you call it suburban poverty? 380 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't sound right. It's supposed to be urban 381 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 2: poverty and white flight to the suburbs and everything's okay 382 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: in the suburb. And what you discovered is suburban poverty. Yeah, 383 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: why don't you explain that? 384 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? 385 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: I was. 386 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: I was sitting at a wooden desk in my house 387 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: when I called the school district and said, how many 388 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: children get a free lunch in the suburb? Of Hilliard, 389 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: the ninth largest school district in the state of Ohio. 390 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 2: And they satuted a suburb of Columbus, a university town, 391 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 2: which typically means fairly affluent, well paid, clean sidewalks, no blight, 392 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 2: and then a suburb of that place should be really nice. Yeah. 393 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, And they said, well, good news, it's only fourteen 394 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 1: point seven percent. And I said, well, I stayed economics, 395 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: you can do a lot with percentages. How many human 396 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: beings is that, because we're not talking about ballpoint pens here, 397 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: we're talking about people, children with faces and names. And 398 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: they said, well, we'll have to call you back. And 399 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: they called me back and said, well, it's twenty one 400 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty eight. And I was shocked. I was grieved. 401 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: I felt a call in my life in that exact 402 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: instant to do two things. One love, serve and feed 403 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: the children facing poverty in my town body, mind and spirit. 404 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: And two bring the community with me. 405 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: Tie the unchurched lady that went through the eighteen weeks 406 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 2: and said the prayer to the story, she. 407 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: Was really involved and helped. I mean, as this started 408 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: happening in my life, I mean, she cared a lot 409 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: about it. Is she has become a Christian. She's been 410 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: involved in women's Bible study for years and years and 411 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 1: years now. And her son even went to a Christian 412 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: college in Michigan and she was she's been an encourager 413 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: to me since then. 414 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 2: That's pretty incredible. All right. So I'm no economist. You are, 415 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: so I gotta be careful with what I say because 416 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: you'll probably come up with some fancy economic statistic metrics 417 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: that makes me stupid. But here we go. 418 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: Two thousand and what or two thousand and seven? 419 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 2: No, No, twenty one hundred and. 420 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: Oh fifty eight children suburban? 421 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, out of if that's fourteen. 422 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: Percent, it's about sixteen thousand total students. 423 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 2: Okay, twenty one hundred and something is a big number, 424 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 2: But when you think of it, out of sixteen, that's 425 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: one in eight. One in eight suburban children are growing 426 00:23:59,600 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: up in. 427 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and now it's much higher. 428 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: It can't be true. 429 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: It's much higher. Now it's over thirty percent. 430 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: But hang tight, that cannot be true. The news doesn't 431 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 2: say that. I know. The images we see all day 432 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: every day about children in poverty look like stuff on 433 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: the inner city, Memphis and Queens and Albuquerque, pick a town, 434 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: and the movies depict heavily black and brown high schools 435 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: where there's poverty and gangs, and that's where the free 436 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 2: lunches are, not in suburbia. 437 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: That's what I thought too. 438 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: And this is two thousand and seven. So you said, 439 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: I'm going back what you said. Immediately you decided three 440 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 2: things that you wanted to do here, which was. 441 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt like God was calling me to love, 442 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: serve and feed those children body, mind and spirit, and secondly, 443 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: to bring the community with. 444 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 2: Me right there. Yeah, okay, So what happened when you 445 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: told mister. 446 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: It's funny because I couldn't. I was so obsessed thinking 447 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: about it. That's how I knew it was the answer 448 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: to that prayer eleven days prior, because I was I couldn't. 449 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 1: The last thing I thought of when I was falling asleep. 450 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: The first thing I thought of when I woke up 451 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: in the morning was could this possibly be true? And 452 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: what am I going to do about it? 453 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: Why are you? 454 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: I asked myself that for about a decade, Why me? 455 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: And I feel like God showed me that Why me? 456 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: And it ties back to that community that the church 457 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: youth group provided for me. God taught me about the 458 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: aces study. Now is lovely science that proves it. But 459 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: a loving, supportive community like that can heal people from 460 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: their trauma. And that's what God, you know, to heal. 461 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: How would you know? How would how would the child 462 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 2: who grew up in trauma healed by a church community? 463 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: How would you know? 464 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: That? 465 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: It's a very personal thing, isn't it. 466 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the blessing you don't know you need that 467 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: you get exactly at the right moment of your life. 468 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 1: And and he showed me. I taught you that community, 469 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: and I healed you in it, and I want you 470 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: to create that exact community for thousands and thousands of people. 471 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 2: We'll be right back your story. But I'm just going 472 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: to tell you. People will have hatted me on the 473 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: back and congratulated me. They've actually made an Oscar winning 474 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 2: movie about it. I speak around the country about it. 475 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 2: I've written a book about it, and people always want 476 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: to pat me on the back about all this football 477 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 2: coach and stuff that I've done, and I don't I 478 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 2: still don't think people really get it. I tell them 479 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: it has been the salve to the trauma that damn 480 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: near broke my spirit. I know you do I can 481 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: hear it and see it in your face when you 482 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: talk about this. And we haven't even gotten into it yet, 483 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 2: but I completely get why you. But I want our 484 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 2: listeners to understand why you're crying. I'm sure it's okay. 485 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: You still feel it all, don't you. 486 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so do I. 487 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 2: So do I. It's something about that kind of trauma 488 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: that you learn to cope with and deal with and 489 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 2: compensate for, but you never fully get over it. 490 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Just layers of grief. And I think that's I 491 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: as an adult. There's so many people, for so many reasons, 492 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: that carry around layers of grief for all kinds of reasons, 493 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: and it's it's a connection point that builds really deep 494 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: relationships with lots of people. 495 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: For sure, so irety stricken, suburban kids. It's one thing 496 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: to know a number, it's another thing to have a face. Yeah, 497 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 2: will tell me about how that happened. 498 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: So I used my really big mouth to tell as 499 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: many people. 500 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: You have a minor in it, you're supposed to use 501 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 2: your big mouth. You were, you were. 502 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: Educated in how Yeah, teachers, you didn't. 503 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 2: Answer a question. I'm sorry, I what did Scott say? Oh? 504 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 2: Because I know what my family. You have two beautiful 505 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: children and a husband who loves you have been married 506 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: to for thirty years now but less back then. But 507 00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: still I have the same Did they under stand what 508 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: they were bargaining and reckoning for when you decided you 509 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: were going to love certain feed and bring the community along? 510 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: I mean, what was their initial reaction? 511 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: I don't think any of us knew clearly where this 512 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: was headed. But I had said, God, if you're going 513 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: to get a hold of my heart for this, you're 514 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: going to need to get a hold of my immediate 515 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: family's hearts for this, because being a wife and a 516 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: mother is of utmost importance to me and I'm not 517 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: going to sacrifice that for this. So I would not 518 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,959 Speaker 1: to get a hold of their hearts too. If you 519 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: really want me to do this, and that has definitely happened, 520 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: it is I say all the time, it's been a 521 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: family affair. They have been with me, arm in arm 522 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: with me from day one and still are after eighteen years. 523 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: So I can motivate people, I hope around things that 524 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: are really important in life, but I can't motivate those 525 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: three people. The only explanation is that God drew them 526 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: as much as he drew me to this cause. 527 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: So but a face to it. Now, Okay, you're awakened 528 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: to this. Yeah, you feel like it's an answer to 529 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 2: a prayer. So now you feel called. You have a 530 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: goal that just popped in your head to love, serve, 531 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: and feed and bring the community with you. But right 532 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: now it's numbers. How does it first start becoming a 533 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: face and fully with the backdrop understanding that you very 534 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 2: deeply in your soul feel this because you know what 535 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: that trauma is. 536 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: I worked part time for a church, so that's the 537 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: timing of that was really perfect because it's a big church, 538 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: one of the biggest Lutheran churches in the country, and 539 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: so I had a reported directly to the senior pastor. 540 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: So I started straight away saying to him, I feel 541 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: his call in my life. There's this huge problem in 542 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: our town. I feel called to do something about it. 543 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: And he was like, okay, let me know what you 544 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: figure out, and so gim me abreast and so then 545 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: I wrote, I went to the Chamber of Commerce, learned 546 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: they were twenty two churches in town. Because I thought, 547 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: we'll bring the community with me. What does that mean. 548 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: I've always served at my church but it didn't say 549 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: bring your church with you. In my mind, it was 550 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: bring the community with you. So I wrote letters to 551 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: twenty two churches and said, here's the problem I found 552 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,719 Speaker 1: in our town. Twenty one hundred fifty children facing poverty 553 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: getting a free lunch and then hungry all summer. Because 554 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: I never asked Bill. All the tutoring I did at 555 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: that inner city school, I knew they got a free lunch. 556 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: I knew it. I never asked them what do you 557 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: do in the summer. 558 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 2: That's the big question. Oh my gosh, when you just 559 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: said it, it's huge. Great, they get a free lunch 560 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: during the school. What do they do during the summer. 561 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: It's twelve weeks. It is twelve weeks that it's gone. 562 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: It's a one in fact is friend reduce lunch is 563 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: the second best way we feed people in our country 564 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: after food stamps. It works great now, it's breakfast and lunch. 565 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: It's lovely, but it stops for twelve weeks in the summer. 566 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: And that's where I knew the gap was in understanding this. 567 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: Then I learn when they are gathering food, what kind 568 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 2: of food is it? Yeah, it's cheese puffs and whatever 569 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 2: you can get your hands on. 570 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the Oh they're ugly underbelly. Yeah, it's the 571 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: unhealthy food in the store. I mean it's the cheap 572 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: stuff at the cheapest grocery stores that the family can 573 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: spread along the summer. 574 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: So the question is not just rhetorical, what did you 575 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: find out that these kids do? What were not unrhetorically 576 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 2: what did you find out that kids do? Poverty stricken 577 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: kids from the suburb who depend on that free lunch 578 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 2: probably the best meal that get the day, what do 579 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 2: they do during the summer? Not rhetorically, actually what did 580 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: you find out? Well? 581 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: I found out in the urban city there were these 582 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: things called free summer lunch camps, and in fact, in 583 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: the inner city where I had been tutoring, there were 584 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: two or three within walking distance from the school where 585 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: I was shooting. So a child could choose, I could 586 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: want to go to this one or this one, and 587 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: they could get them their hunger needs and likely camp 588 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: needs met in the urban city. Then I looked in 589 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,239 Speaker 1: suburbia and there was nothing, literally nothing. Then I did 590 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: some research. I learned that the Brookings Institute had done 591 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: a study in two thousand and five that showed there 592 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: were more human beings, children and families living in poverty 593 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: in the suburbs than in the urban cities in the 594 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: United States of America. 595 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: Okay, when I read that, I was like, what come on? 596 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 2: There are more poverty stricken children in the suburbs than 597 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 2: there is the urban areas in our country. 598 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: Since two thousand and five, they proved it was that. 599 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 2: Well. 600 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: I met a historian one time and I said to 601 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: him all of this, and he said, Kim, do you 602 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: ever watch HGTV? I said, of course, Guilty Pleasure. He said, 603 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: you ever watched the European version? I said, of course, 604 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: Guilty Pleasure. And he said, so in Europe when you're 605 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: watching that show and someone's in England or France, what 606 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: city are they in? I said, Paris and London. He 607 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,919 Speaker 1: said exactly. He said, no, the people on the show 608 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: have money, otherwise they wouldn't be on the show. And 609 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: they're in the biggest cities in those countries. That's where 610 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: they're looking for their housing. He said, Europe is older 611 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: than America. Money started in the inner city, it moved out, 612 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: Doubt and Abbey, it's moved back in. He said. Our country, 613 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: United States is young. This is the first time we've 614 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: ever done it. When we started our country, money was 615 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: in the inner city. Then it moved out suburbia, and 616 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: now it's moving back in. So wherever wealth moves, poverty 617 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 1: moves in the opposite direction. 618 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 2: Wow, that's interesting. So what this historian is telling you 619 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 2: about economics macro economics of our country is money moved out. 620 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 2: Now money is moving back in, and it's leaving behind 621 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 2: poverty in suburbia. 622 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: Right, well, and pushing poverty out of the urban cities 623 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: or school is wrong. 624 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 2: It's not leaving it because money's coming in. It's pushing. 625 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 2: It's gentrification. 626 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: It's right, that's right. 627 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 2: It's now I'm coming up with the phrase. But it's 628 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 2: almost what it's reversed. It's almost completely mind shifted. You 629 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 2: think of gentrification as coming into some historical or older 630 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 2: community building, making the building is so expensive that the 631 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 2: people have to leave, Right, But here's the question where 632 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 2: do they go? That's right, And you're saying they're getting 633 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 2: pushed into quote suburbia, right, Is that that's really the fact. 634 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: That's it, that's it, that's right. 635 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 2: And so where are the kids from Hillard being pushed 636 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 2: from Columbus? Is that really it? Yes? 637 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: Yep, and all the other suburbs around. So there are 638 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: another nine ten other suburbs around Columbus And it's the 639 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: same way. In fact, all the lovely little lines that 640 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: people draw on maps. So half of the children who 641 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: live in Columbus City proper go to suburban schools. 642 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 2: Why, how how does that work? District wise? I would think, 643 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 2: if you're registered for a district, how do you go 644 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 2: to suburban school? 645 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? It's all these lines on maps. So the suburban town, 646 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: for example, Hilliard is about fourteen zero point seven eighty 647 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: nine square miles. That's that's it. It's a tiny little town. 648 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: The school district is sixty square miles. 649 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 2: The Hilliard school district is four times the size of 650 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 2: the town itself. Right, So is it bringing in poverty 651 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 2: stricten kids into the school system. 652 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: Well, that's so the map of these school districts, it 653 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 1: used to be where the school and the city were 654 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: perfectly lined up. 655 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, the families and the community were around it, right, 656 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 2: and we have. 657 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: Lost that, right, it's much The school districts are much 658 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 1: larger than the cities, and so they encompass a larger 659 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: geograggraphic area, and so you have some children living in 660 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: Columbus who are facing poverty, who go to Hilliard schools. 661 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: But you also have apartment complex, trailer parks, duplexes, which 662 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: again I think is lovely city planning quite honestly, because 663 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: mixedosoeconomic environment is really healthy for everyone. But in that 664 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: scenario in suburbia, there are people who live in the 665 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: city of Hilliard who are facing poverty too. So it's 666 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: not just the Columbus children, it's also some Hilliard children. 667 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: But again it's that regentrification of the urban community that 668 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: is shifting a huge population shift in our country. 669 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 2: All Right, the study test, as it pertains to you, 670 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 2: is Columbus Hillard. But this to be true than in 671 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 2: Memphis and South Haven and Little Rock in North Little 672 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 2: Rock or Jacksonville or I'm just trying to pick places 673 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 2: I know, but pretty much every urban area has a 674 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 2: suburban area. And you would argue then that this population 675 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 2: shift is happening in all of these areas across our country, 676 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,240 Speaker 2: leaving poverty stricken suburban children. 677 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what Brookings Institute has shown. It wasn't 678 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: just a study on Columbus. It was a national United 679 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: States study that showed that poverty had moved from not 680 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Let me be clear, there are still 681 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: poverty in urban cities for sure, but their point is 682 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: there are more human beings living in poverty in the 683 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: suburbs than in the urban cities, which again is an 684 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: enormous populationship that our country has not seen before. 685 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 3: Well an example where your kids are at. I think 686 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 3: there's actually a decent amount in Arlington and Alexandria too, 687 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 3: outside of DC. Really, there's actually amount of poverty in 688 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 3: Arlington and Alexandria. 689 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 2: And when you think of Arlington and Alexandria. 690 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,919 Speaker 3: Well, there's nice there's nice areas there too, but there's 691 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 3: also a lot of poverty. 692 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 2: There's both. Yeah. I would just think when you hear that, 693 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 2: you're like, really, because you think of young white professionals. 694 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 3: City school districts are actually not good in a lot 695 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,720 Speaker 3: of Arlington and Alexandria. 696 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 2: Really yeah. Yeah. 697 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: I challenge people to just call their school district. I mean, 698 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: as a tax beayer, as a parent, you can call 699 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: your school district and say how many children get a 700 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: free reduced lunch not percentage but number of human. 701 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 2: Beings and you might be shocked. 702 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 1: I think you'd be shocked. 703 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 2: I'm shocked. I'm standing here beside myself. I am shocked, 704 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 2: all right. So that sets up the facts about the problem. 705 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 2: We still hadn't put a face to it. We still 706 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 2: hadn't figured out what love, certain feed and bring the 707 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 2: community means in Kim's world eighteen years ago through today. 708 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 2: And we will learn all all of that and more 709 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 2: in Part two that's now available to listen to. Together, guys, 710 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 2: we can change the country, but it starts with you. 711 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 2: I'll see in Part two.