WEBVTT - The Case Is Closed

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Glass, you know, um, there's a part of

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<v Speaker 1>me that is highly entertained, and I know that it's

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<v Speaker 1>frustrating to many of you that are watching the breathless

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<v Speaker 1>hysteria reporting that is now going on this nine minute

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<v Speaker 1>press conference by Robert Muller. First of all, he's full

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<v Speaker 1>of crap. I mean, it's it's laughable on the surface

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<v Speaker 1>what he is saying. And do one thing. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>to understand if Muller and his merry band of Democratic donors,

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<v Speaker 1>including Hillary Clinton's former attorney for the Clinton Foundation, Andrew Weissman,

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<v Speaker 1>his pit bull, the guy that literally lost tens and

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<v Speaker 1>tens of thousands of jobs in the Enron accounting case

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<v Speaker 1>and was overturned nine zero in the Supreme Court, and

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<v Speaker 1>in Sydney Powell's book, she describes how he had withheld

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<v Speaker 1>exculpatory evidence in the past, no ethics there, sent four

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<v Speaker 1>Meryl executives to jail for a year until the Fifth

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<v Speaker 1>Circuit overturned that disaster of his. I promise you they

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<v Speaker 1>would have spelled it out so clearly, with zero ambiguity,

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<v Speaker 1>and there would be absolute certainty that Donald Trump had

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<v Speaker 1>committed some crime. They did not even come close to that.

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<v Speaker 1>The interesting thing is to watch all of this noise

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<v Speaker 1>begin again, because it's going to die down again because

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<v Speaker 1>there's no meat on the bone. There's no substance here

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<v Speaker 1>for any of them. And yeah, Muller's playing a political

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<v Speaker 1>game at this point, but it's a little more sinister

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot deeper than I think most people are

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<v Speaker 1>picking up on. The Real message from Muller today was

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<v Speaker 1>don't talk to me ever again. I'm done. You guys,

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<v Speaker 1>go play politics. I gave you, I'm giving you a little,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, political bone to chew on here, but no,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't have what you wanted. And I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>all disappointed, and I know you all hate the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that the Independent Council statute was changed after the Clinton case,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is actually the Attorney General's decision. The interesting

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<v Speaker 1>part is he's contradicted himself numerous times as it relates

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<v Speaker 1>to this very issue, and I don't even think he's

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<v Speaker 1>aware of it. And you know, all this is innuendo. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the way this criminal justice system in America works, if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have the evidence, you don't say we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the evidence. You don't say we can't convict, You're

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna try. You don't bring charges, and the case

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<v Speaker 1>is closed. If we have a justice system where the

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<v Speaker 1>likes of Mueller or any prosecutor for that matter, And

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<v Speaker 1>I do think there are a lot of prosecutors that

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<v Speaker 1>become zealots and they lose all human proportionality in perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>And unfortunately, again, some are great. Some do their job,

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<v Speaker 1>they follow the law and they don't deviate, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have agendas. But others it becomes like their game. It

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<v Speaker 1>becomes how many convictions can I get, how many I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take this guy down. I'm going to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where a lack of ethics occasionally comes in.

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<v Speaker 1>And now, so none of this as it relates to

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<v Speaker 1>the Mueller Report has changed the thing. Now, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to under stand here, there is nothing legally at all

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<v Speaker 1>that rises to the level of anything that would resemble

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<v Speaker 1>an indictment. It's not there. And what Mueller's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>skillfully tried to do today. And I was watching Gerald

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<v Speaker 1>Nadler after and I mean Mueller looked like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a wreck today it was. And I think what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>is he's showing up at his DC potties and he's

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<v Speaker 1>probably getting a lot of crap for the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't do what the what the left wing in

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<v Speaker 1>the DC Sewer and swam wanted him to do, and

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<v Speaker 1>he just basically washed his hands today. I'm never gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk again. This is my last. I'm never It speaks

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<v Speaker 1>for itself. Okay, If it speaks for itself, then you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a problem because there's no underlying crime based on

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<v Speaker 1>your own words, Donald Trump. You know Trey Gaudy infamously

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<v Speaker 1>he says, well, if you're innocent, act like it. Quote

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<v Speaker 1>damn it, that's what he said, not mean quoting well,

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<v Speaker 1>how do innocent people act? Well, I know, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to be accused of something that I'm innocent of,

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<v Speaker 1>I will loudly proclaim my innocence and with all the

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<v Speaker 1>noise that Well, Donald Trump vented because two years of

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<v Speaker 1>his presidency, probably fifty percent of his time was spent

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<v Speaker 1>on what he knew was a witch hunt and knew

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<v Speaker 1>that he did not do, which Muller confirmed that they

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<v Speaker 1>had no evidence. Again today, he's pissed at times when

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do your job and you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>sit with a group of lawyers and you gotta go

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<v Speaker 1>over strategy again and again and again on the same topic.

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<v Speaker 1>It gets a little bit old. But what Muller doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do, it's not that he does doesn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to explain to the Jerry Nadler's of the world. If

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<v Speaker 1>he gets called before Congress, Robert Muller is going to

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<v Speaker 1>get destroyed with really hard questions. When did you know

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<v Speaker 1>that there was no collusion of any kind? When did

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<v Speaker 1>you How is it that your mandate that said you

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<v Speaker 1>could pretty much go anywhere, which originally was about interference

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<v Speaker 1>Trump Russia, collusion, conspiracy, whatever, you had time to go

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<v Speaker 1>into FARA violations, which are like ridiculous, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>is so insignificant. And did you do that after you

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<v Speaker 1>already knew that there was no collusion conspiracy of any type.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you have time to dig into taxi medallion issues?

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<v Speaker 1>How did you have time to dig into loan application issues?

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<v Speaker 1>How did you have time to dig into all of

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<v Speaker 1>these other tack says and all these other insignificant things.

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<v Speaker 1>But you ignored the dirty Russian dossier that was paid

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<v Speaker 1>for by the other candidate in the very race. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about election interference that we know was selectively

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<v Speaker 1>leaked to members of the media, the Washington Post and

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<v Speaker 1>hacks like David Corn and Michael Izakoff. How did you ignore?

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<v Speaker 1>Even The New York Times is suggesting now that the

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary Clinton bought and paid for Russian dossier was from

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<v Speaker 1>the get go Russian disinformation designed to impact the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen election. That's far closer to his mandate than taxi medallions,

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<v Speaker 1>FARA violations, and loan applications. Why didn't you have time

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<v Speaker 1>ask just a few questions on that? That's a I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he has an easy answer there, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the specific follow ups that would occur thereafter. Mueller doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go before Jim Jordan. Now Nadler's in a

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<v Speaker 1>pickle because Nadler got the message today. I'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>this bone, but don't call me before Congress. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason really that Muller doesn't want to go because Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>are going to ask the questions that he can't really answer.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how about the Steel dossier? That's a foreign agent?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought foreign agents we're not supposed to impact our elections.

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<v Speaker 1>How is how did that become the basis for the

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<v Speaker 1>fines applications? How did that get leaked information that was

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<v Speaker 1>unverified that we now knowah's unverifiable because Christopher Steele doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>stand by his own dossier and he says, here has

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<v Speaker 1>no idea if it's true. How did you ignore all

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<v Speaker 1>of that what turned out to be Russian disinformation Russian

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<v Speaker 1>wise bought and paid for by one candidate and used

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<v Speaker 1>to bludgeon the other candidate and even people you hire

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<v Speaker 1>like Struck in page No. Thanks to Muller, we found

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<v Speaker 1>their text messages. That was because of Michael Horowitz, the

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<v Speaker 1>Inspector General. How is it possible you missed all this

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<v Speaker 1>if that was what you were supposed to be investigating.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see the answer that would ever make any

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<v Speaker 1>sense for him. And remember you know this whole issue

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<v Speaker 1>the Attorney General. So we used to have the Independent

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<v Speaker 1>Council Statute that was up in to the Clinton years.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember the Star Report. There were eleven specific crimes that

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<v Speaker 1>can Star outlined as it relates to crimes of Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton committed. And by the way, Bill Clinton, you know

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<v Speaker 1>he did all of these things, I mean these you

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<v Speaker 1>go back. It was pretty serious and that Ken Starr said,

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<v Speaker 1>there's substantial credible information supporting the following eleven possible grounds

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<v Speaker 1>for impeachment. One Clinton lied under oath in a civil

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<v Speaker 1>case when he denied a fair sexual relationship or relations

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<v Speaker 1>with Monica Lewinsky. Two the President lied under oath to

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<v Speaker 1>the grand jury about his sexual relationship. Three in a

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<v Speaker 1>civil deposition to support his false statement about the sexual relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>President Clinton lied under oath about being alone with miss

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<v Speaker 1>Lewinsky and about the many gifts exchanged between miss Lewinsky

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<v Speaker 1>and him. President Clinton lied under oath in his civil

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<v Speaker 1>deposition about his discussions between miss Lewinsky concerning her involvement

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<v Speaker 1>in the Jones case. And the President obstructed justice, had

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<v Speaker 1>an understanding with miss Lewinsky to jointly conceal the truth

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<v Speaker 1>about their relationship by concealing gifts subpoenaed by Paula Jones attorneys.

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<v Speaker 1>And it goes on from there, and we ended up

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<v Speaker 1>paying nearly a million dollars to Paula Jones, he lost

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<v Speaker 1>his law license, and he was impeached. But they're very specific,

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<v Speaker 1>and the reason we're now out of the Independent Council

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<v Speaker 1>Statute is because of people like Jerry Nadler. Jerry Nadler

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<v Speaker 1>at the time didn't want the Star report published. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>now he even wants grand jury information and the Muller

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<v Speaker 1>report published. This is not about facts, This is not

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<v Speaker 1>about truth, This is not about anything other than up.

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<v Speaker 1>We get another round of conspiracy theories until it dies again.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason we know it's dead is because the

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General, under the Special Council Statute that replaced the

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<v Speaker 1>Independent Council Statute, is the final arbiter. Now, the report

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<v Speaker 1>was handed over to the Attorney General, and the Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>General and the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and the

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<v Speaker 1>Office Illegal Counsel without They said at the time they

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<v Speaker 1>gave no consideration to Justice Department policy as it relates

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<v Speaker 1>to whether or not a sitting president can be united

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<v Speaker 1>And based on the findings of the Mueller Report, after

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<v Speaker 1>Muller didn't decide was no obstruction. Now, if all these

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<v Speaker 1>people cared about obstruction, why have none of them ever

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<v Speaker 1>brought up what we discuss Hillary Clinton, The evidence is overwhelming, incontrovertible.

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<v Speaker 1>She violated the Espionage Act, had top secret classified information

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<v Speaker 1>on a private server in a mom and pop bashop

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<v Speaker 1>bathroom closet. Then she had intention, which is a very

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<v Speaker 1>big part of any obstruction charge. What was the intent, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>she had subpoenaed emails, thirty three thousand of them, and

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<v Speaker 1>she erased them. And then her hard drive. They used

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<v Speaker 1>acid wash known as bleach bit to wipe it clean

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<v Speaker 1>if there was any forensic materials that could have otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>been recovered, and then an aid busted up blackberries and

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<v Speaker 1>iPhones with hammers, and then simcards were removed. Now, what

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<v Speaker 1>was the intent to destroy the evidence of the underlying crime. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there is no underlying crime in this case. And the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that the president, under Article two of our Constitution,

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<v Speaker 1>at full complete authority to get rid of mull or

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<v Speaker 1>anytime he wanted for conflicts of interest, but he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do it anyway, means that this is nothing but another

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<v Speaker 1>round of lying, another round of conspiracy theories, another round

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<v Speaker 1>of breathless hysteria, the creation of false hope and the

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<v Speaker 1>left in this country that they're gonna get Trump anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're not going to. And what everybody's forgotten I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to as this hour unfolds. We already have the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mueller report is done, dead and finished. Anything you

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<v Speaker 1>hear about it from now on is noise. If the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats want to try and impeach. They will guarantee a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand percent the reelection of Donald Trump. My advice to

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<v Speaker 1>them is go for it. I think that's good for them,

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<v Speaker 1>that the Green New Deal, and never focus on helping

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<v Speaker 1>the American people live in a safer, more secure, more

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<v Speaker 1>prosperous country. And then we'll compare the record. Are we

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<v Speaker 1>better off than we were four years ago? And Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump could probably win by a landslide. Oh, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>brutal takedown by Alan Dershowitz just came out from the

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<v Speaker 1>Hill and the headline is shame on Robert Mueller for

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<v Speaker 1>exceeding his role. And what he says about the statement

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<v Speaker 1>that if we had confidence the president clearly did not

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<v Speaker 1>commit a crime, we would have said so, he writes,

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<v Speaker 1>is worse than the statement made by then FBI Director

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<v Speaker 1>Komey regarding Hillary Clinton during the twenty sixteen presidential campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>When Coomy declared regarding that in July at twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>or colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of

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<v Speaker 1>classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless

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<v Speaker 1>in their handling of very sensitive, highly classed information, but

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<v Speaker 1>remember Comey was involved in taking out the legal standard

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<v Speaker 1>gross negligence. More on the other side. All right, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five now till the top of the hour, eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>nine point one sewn toll free telephone number. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to take I want to go back. In

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<v Speaker 1>one sense, there's a very entertaining side of what's unfolding

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<v Speaker 1>in the Democratic Party. And it's simple they don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what to do because Nancy Pelosi, she kind of instinctively

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<v Speaker 1>knows this is a really bad political idea to move

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<v Speaker 1>forward with impeachment on an obstruction case with no intent,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's no underlying crime. And even Mueller's statements today

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<v Speaker 1>are no different than what was in the report. And

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<v Speaker 1>just because the left gets jazzed and re energized with

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<v Speaker 1>their conspiracy theory doesn't mean it's smart politics. And you know,

0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.360
<v Speaker 1>you even Natalie looked like he was so unsure of

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<v Speaker 1>himself today and then you got the cowardly shift, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bubble and fizzing like alka seltzer and water all day

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<v Speaker 1>about Mueller's nine minute statement this morning. Nancy Pelosi is

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<v Speaker 1>the one that now finds herself at odds with the

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<v Speaker 1>lunatic base of the Democratic Party, and there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them, the New Green Deal crazies. And so after

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<v Speaker 1>Muller spoke this morning, Pelosi then continued her call for

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<v Speaker 1>Congress to move forward with investigations into the president. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we've had four separate investigations. They have all concluded the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. The FBI nine month investigation even struck in

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<v Speaker 1>page admit there was no there there and they had nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was before the appointment of Mueller nine straight months.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we had the House Intel Committee, nothing, the Bipartisan

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<v Speaker 1>Senate Committee, nothing, even Muller reiterating today, nothing. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for her to say, you know, holding firm that in

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<v Speaker 1>not advocating impeachment and the and the crazy and appeasing

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<v Speaker 1>the crazy base of the party, that would it would

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee two things, would guarantee the reelection of Trump and

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee that they are marginalized as a party for years

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<v Speaker 1>to come, maybe to a point where that they can

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<v Speaker 1>never recover that the only Democrats that will be elected

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<v Speaker 1>are the crazy Democrats. So you know, she can say

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<v Speaker 1>all she wants that they hold this you know, sacred

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<v Speaker 1>constitutional responsibility to investigate and hold the president account they're

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<v Speaker 1>nothing but words. Let's go back. Remember Muller decided not

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<v Speaker 1>to decide, and so that then again we got rid

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<v Speaker 1>of the Independent Council Statute. We now have the Special

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<v Speaker 1>Council Statute. Under the Special Council Statute, it is the

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General that makes these decisions. The Attorney General is

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<v Speaker 1>now a man by the name of Bill Barr. The

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<v Speaker 1>Deputy Attorney General has just resigned or left is Rod Rosenstein,

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<v Speaker 1>along with the Office of Legal Counsel, all concluding in

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<v Speaker 1>very short order, without any consideration of quote Justice Department

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<v Speaker 1>policy as to whether you can or cannot indict a

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<v Speaker 1>sitting president, all said the same thing. No indictment, no evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't rise to any level, not even close, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course no underlying crime. But you know, Democrats only care

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<v Speaker 1>about obstruction if it's Trump. They only care about collusion

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<v Speaker 1>with Russia if it's Trump. Let's just ignore the Hillary

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton bought and paid for Russian lies that were spread

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<v Speaker 1>to the American people and used as a weapon to

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<v Speaker 1>get a backdoor to spy on the Trump campaign and

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<v Speaker 1>then the Trump transition team and then the president. But

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<v Speaker 1>this line of questioning, Lindsay Graham, the Attorney General bar

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<v Speaker 1>says it all. And this holds today in spite of

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<v Speaker 1>noise that it's over. Muller is over. It's done. The

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<v Speaker 1>curtain has closed on Act one. And then you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to what the Attorney General is is now investigating, and

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<v Speaker 1>you understand that the curtain is rising on the deep state,

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<v Speaker 1>and that will and with the declassification last week, guarantee

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<v Speaker 1>that the American people will discover all of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I've been telling you about the abuse of power,

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<v Speaker 1>about a rigged investigation to the favored candidate that should

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<v Speaker 1>win one hundred million to zero, that will go to

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<v Speaker 1>the heart of real Russian disinformation used to impact the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen election, that power abused with the FISA courts

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<v Speaker 1>and FISA Court judges lied to by omission not telling

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<v Speaker 1>them that Hillary paid for this document put together by

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<v Speaker 1>a foreign national that doesn't stand by the document, which

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<v Speaker 1>renders that document that unverifiable because Christopher still I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if any of this is true, and then used

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<v Speaker 1>to bludgeon as an insurance policy a duly elected president.

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<v Speaker 1>That curtain is just rising. The lights are now going down,

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<v Speaker 1>The curtain is about to go up, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>its coming and with the declassification order last week, that

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<v Speaker 1>means we're gonna get it all. It's not a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of if anymore, it's a matter of when we get

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<v Speaker 1>it all. And this is this is the definitive statement

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<v Speaker 1>on this all being over except for a few zealot

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<v Speaker 1>extreme radical democratic socialists that just wake up every second, minute,

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<v Speaker 1>hour of every day, like the media mob, just hating

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<v Speaker 1>all things Donald Trump. Do you share my concerns about

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<v Speaker 1>the FISA warrant process? Yes? Do you share my concerns

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<v Speaker 1>about the counterintelligence investigation, how it was opened and why

0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:54.640
<v Speaker 1>it was opened? Yes? Do you share my concerns at

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<v Speaker 1>the professional lack of professionalism and the Clinton email investigations

0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:03.840
<v Speaker 1>something we should all look at. Yes. Do you expect

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<v Speaker 1>to change your mind about the bottom line conclusions of

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<v Speaker 1>the Muller Report? No? Do you know Bob Muller? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you trust him? Yes? How long have you known him?

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty years roughly. Do you think he had time he needed? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>You think he had the money he needed? Yes? You

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<v Speaker 1>think he had the resources he needed? Yes. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think he did a thorough job? Yes? And I think

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<v Speaker 1>he feels he did a thorough job and had adequate

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<v Speaker 1>evidence to make the calls. Do you think the president's

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<v Speaker 1>campaign in twenty sixteen was thoroughly looked at in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of whether or not they colluded with the Russians? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and the answer is no. According to Bob Muller, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't decide about obstruction. You did, Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. You feel good about your decision. Absolutely, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the reality. Legally speaking, the Attorney General, under the new

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<v Speaker 1>Special Council Statute, not the old Independent Council Statute, makes

0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:14.520
<v Speaker 1>the final determination, and in this case it was made

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<v Speaker 1>rather quickly, and in this case it was made in

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<v Speaker 1>full agreement with the Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein and

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<v Speaker 1>the Office of Legal Counsel. Now, what Alan Dershowitz is

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<v Speaker 1>arguing is very it is just dead on accurate. Now

0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:35.960
<v Speaker 1>politically speaking, that's very different from anything from a legal perspective.

0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:39.840
<v Speaker 1>The legal perspective as it relates to Muller and the

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<v Speaker 1>President is dead, it's done, it's over, it's finished. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you've got to understand that there is zero

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<v Speaker 1>reason for what Mueller did today. Accept Mueller, I could

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<v Speaker 1>tell is scared to death if he ever got before

0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 1>the committee, which now puts, you know, pressure, and puts

0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Nadler and company in a bit of a quandary because

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<v Speaker 1>what we have in all of this is a rogue

0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 1>prosecutor who picked an abusively unfair, biased team and they

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<v Speaker 1>still couldn't get the president. And you know, now he

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<v Speaker 1>can't answer questions about very specific issues about his decision

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<v Speaker 1>making in this process, who he hired, what he chose

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<v Speaker 1>to investigate. His mandate was so broad. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>ignore the Russian dossier? How do you ignore all of

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<v Speaker 1>these things? And you know, it's it's to the point

0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:50.399
<v Speaker 1>where you know, he I could tell you he's in

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<v Speaker 1>a pretzel because he's not being treated well at the

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<v Speaker 1>Washington elite parties. He's not as accepted and as a

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<v Speaker 1>steep aimed as he once was, you know, and we

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<v Speaker 1>saw all of this throughout this whole process. Now, what

0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Dersha had said about it, which I think is really important,

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<v Speaker 1>is that if we had confidence that the president did

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<v Speaker 1>not commit a crime, we would have said that, Okay,

0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:21.120
<v Speaker 1>do you have evidence he did? Do you have does

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<v Speaker 1>you have the evidence that is indictable that could lead

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<v Speaker 1>to a conviction. Well, the opinion has been rendered there too.

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<v Speaker 1>And again if you can use the Clinton standard, which

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<v Speaker 1>the media will never make, the comparison, which is warranted

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and justified and appropriate. Well, go back to when James

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<v Speaker 1>Comey did his July fifth, twenty sixteen press conference and said, well,

0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:50.879
<v Speaker 1>we did find didn't find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>or colleagues intended to violate the laws intended keyword governing

0:25:57.080 --> 0:26:02.639
<v Speaker 1>the handling of classified information. There is evidence that they

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<v Speaker 1>were extremely careless. The first draft in May of twenty

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 1>sixteen had gross negligent. Now why did they change the words?

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:16.199
<v Speaker 1>Because that is the legal standard. So they did it.

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 1>They designed it to protect Hillary Clinton, and so that

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<v Speaker 1>that was their way of doing so. And what Dershowitz

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 1>is pointing out is what Komi did you know, was

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<v Speaker 1>universally criticized for going beyond what his responsibility is in

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:37.440
<v Speaker 1>terms of stating whether or not they're sufficient evidence to indict.

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:41.159
<v Speaker 1>In this particular case Clinton, I think the evidence was

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<v Speaker 1>so overwhelming and incontrovertible, such a clear cut case of

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen USC. Seven ninety three, and certainly meeting the standard

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<v Speaker 1>of intent. Subpoin at emails deleted, acid washed, and devices

0:26:56.800 --> 0:27:01.080
<v Speaker 1>busted up, and simcards were moved anyway but Comy did

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<v Speaker 1>that and everybody criticized him. Muller does this today, going

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the conclusion of his report, to try and give

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 1>throw a bone on the way out the door, probably

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 1>so he won't be called to testify, because I think

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Muller is afraid of having to testify. I want Muller

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<v Speaker 1>to go testify. I think Muller under oath will be

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>a disaster for Robert Muller, and I think deep down

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 1>he knows it. He now has to justify the team

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 1>he appointed. He now has to justify why he would

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 1>have prioritized, you know, loan applications and taxi medallions and

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:45.880
<v Speaker 1>FARA violations over a dirty Russian dossier that The New

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 1>York Times is suggesting was in fact Russian disinformation paid

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<v Speaker 1>for by the one candidate that we know was saved

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 1>by rogue upper echelon people in the FBI, because she should,

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:02.399
<v Speaker 1>after all, win one hundred million to zero, and Trump

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>is lonesome, and you know, if he wins, he can't win.

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 1>But we have to have an insurance policy. He knows

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<v Speaker 1>all of that comes into play. And Dershowitz said, until today,

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:16.919
<v Speaker 1>I defended Mueller against the accusation that he's partisan. I

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:20.919
<v Speaker 1>didn't believe he personally favored the Democrats or Republicans. I

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 1>think one look I like professional Dershowitz. I think it

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>was a little naive here, and I saw you can't

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<v Speaker 1>appoint only Democratic donors and Hillary's attorney and a guy

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 1>like Weissman and not have a partisan agenda. He just can't.

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 1>But he said by putting his thumb, indeed his elbow,

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<v Speaker 1>on the scale of justice in favor of impeachment based

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>on obstruction, I'll add without an underlying crime, Muller has

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 1>revealed his partisan bias. It's clear he hates Donald Trump, okay,

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 1>but he does have respect for bar bar has been

0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:00.520
<v Speaker 1>respectful to him, and he was trying to be respectful

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 1>towards the Attorney General. But in any normal case, a

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<v Speaker 1>prosecutor never goes beyond publicly disclosing that there's insufficient evidence

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 1>to indict and Dershowitz's words, no responsible prosecutor would ever

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 1>suggest that the subject of his investigation might be guilty,

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>even if there is insufficient evidence or other reasons not

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>to indict. So it is beyond unethical what Robert Muller

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<v Speaker 1>did today. And I think what he's going to get

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 1>in return is probably a pass for testifying, because if

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Jim Jordan gets a hold of him and Mark Meadows

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 1>gets ahold of them, and he has to answer under

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>oath a lot of serious questions about his decision making

0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>and about when he knew that there was no collusion.

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I think Robert Mueller's story is going to collapse under

0:29:57.320 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 1>its own weight. And why did he hire this his team?

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, no prosecutor would ever do this, And

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter that it's a political statement that he made.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, federal investigations by prosecutors, including a special counsel,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, by their very nature, or one sided because

0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 1>they only hear the evidence of one side, not the

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<v Speaker 1>exculpatory evidence. Witnesses are not subject to any counter you know,

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>it cost examination and evidence has taken in secret, behind

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 1>closed doors of a grand jurian. And that's why prosecutors

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>can only conclude whether or not they have the evidence

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 1>to commence a prosecution, which he did not conclude, And

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:51.719
<v Speaker 1>he contradicted his own statements in terms of what he

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 1>had communicated to bar that that was not a factor,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning the laws or the policies that would govern whether

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 1>a sitting president and be indicted or not. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a travesty of justice. This is the witch hunt on steroids.

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 1>But it's none of it matters. It's all noise. And

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 1>if the Democrats go down the impeachment route, I say

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>more power to them, because they will garantee the election

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 1>re election of Donald Trump. That will be an act

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>of political suicide the likes of which we've never seen

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<v Speaker 1>in our life. The Special Council's Office is part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Justice, and by regulation it was bound

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>by that department policy. Charging the president with a crime

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 1>was therefore not an option we could consider. And beyond

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 1>department policy, were regarded by principles of fairness. It would

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 1>be unfair to potentially it would be unfair to potentially

0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>accuse somebody of a crime when there can be no

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 1>court resolution of the actual charge. So that was Justice

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Department policy. Those were the principles under which we operated,

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<v Speaker 1>and from them we concluded that we would would not

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<v Speaker 1>reach a determination one way or the other about whether

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<v Speaker 1>the president committed a crime. That is the offices. That

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<v Speaker 1>is the officer's final position, and we will not comment

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<v Speaker 1>on any other conclusions or hypotheticals about the president. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>our two Sean Hannity Show, glad you are with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Right down our toll free telephone number. It's eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and nine four one, Sean. If you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the program, understand what's happening here. Understand

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 1>that this is exactly the opposite of how justice in

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>America works. And all this was was the Special Council

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<v Speaker 1>literally just giving just dropping little nuggets, innuendo hits. When

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<v Speaker 1>under our system of justice in America, if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the evidence, you don't say we can't convict, you

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 1>just don't charge. It's really that simple. And what Mueller

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<v Speaker 1>did here is nothing but pure politics. If they had

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<v Speaker 1>the evidence at all in any way, shape, matter, or

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<v Speaker 1>form to prove any crime, be a collusion, conspiracy, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>so on and so forth, they would have brought those

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<v Speaker 1>charges forward and they would have made it clear. And

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 1>what has happened here is it is just gone in

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite direction for them. So it is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you defend against a never ending cloud of

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 1>innuendo over your head? And one of the long term

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 1>ramifications about us, now, look, the effort to unseat a

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 1>duly elected president continues, it's never gonna stop. You know,

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:12.399
<v Speaker 1>if Donald Trump cured cancer, if Donald Trump gave every

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 1>American ten million dollars and he adopted even the Green

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 1>New Deal, in every left wing policy that exists, they'd

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<v Speaker 1>still hate him. And nor does it in any way

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>deflect from all that we now know is coming with

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 1>the declassification. That means the FISA warrant applications will come out.

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 1>That means the three O two's will come out. That

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<v Speaker 1>means the exculpatory evidence that was hidden will come out.

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<v Speaker 1>That means that all the closed or testament, it's all

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 1>coming out. There's a second act to this, and it

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 1>is going to be devastating to all of these deep

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 1>state collaborators. Those you know how Robert Muller had time

0:34:55.760 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>to look into let's see loan applications, taxes going back

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 1>to the eighties, Farah violations, taxi medallions, but ignored what

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>The New York Times was now suggesting was a Hillary

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Clinton bought and paid for, put together by a foreign agent,

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<v Speaker 1>Russian disinformation that was used for the very specific reason

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<v Speaker 1>of creating interference and even outcome of the twenty sixteen election.

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<v Speaker 1>In favor of Hillary. To ignore it all is unconscionable. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>all of that is coming into the fray. As I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, go back to when Lindsay Graham interviewed the

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General Barr. Barr said there was no consideration given

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<v Speaker 1>when he made the decision along with the Deputy Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>General Rod Rosenstein, with input from the Office of Legal Counsel.

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<v Speaker 1>That this whole Justice Department policy issue of whether you

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<v Speaker 1>can or cannot indict a sitting president never came into play.

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<v Speaker 1>And what Robert Mueller said is dead wrong. If Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Muller wanted to come out and say this is what

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<v Speaker 1>we found, he wouldn't have punted it to the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice. Anyway. We got full analysis, a lot of

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:19.840
<v Speaker 1>different angles to get to today. Andy McCarthy, the Great Attorney.

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 1>He is formerly of the Southern District of New York

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 1>and of course number one best selling author, legal analyst,

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Greg Jarrett the Russia Hoax, and David Shown criminal and

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Civil Liberties defense attorney. How are you all? Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the program. Greg, Why don't we start with you today

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:42.439
<v Speaker 1>and your thoughts overall as we begin our analysis of this, well,

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:45.360
<v Speaker 1>once again, as he did. In his report, the Special

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Counsel Robert Mueller seems to have reversed the burden of

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 1>proof and inverted the presumption of innocence. You know, once

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<v Speaker 1>again he is saying, we cannot prove the president did

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<v Speaker 1>not commit a crime. Think about what that really means.

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>It's a double negative. Mueller was contending he can't prove

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:08.400
<v Speaker 1>something that didn't happen. You know what if that's the

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 1>standard for all investigations. Let's say you deposited your paycheck

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<v Speaker 1>at a bank on Monday, the same day it's robbed,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the prosecutor makes a public announcement he can't

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.800
<v Speaker 1>prove you didn't rob the bank, So you're neither criminally

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:24.080
<v Speaker 1>accused nor exonerated. The burden of proof has been shifted

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:27.399
<v Speaker 1>to you to disprove the negative. That's not the way

0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:32.440
<v Speaker 1>our system of justice operates. But Mueller maligned Trump with

0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 1>a taintive criminality and depriving him of the presumption of innocence.

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 1>And he did it once again today. You're take David

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<v Speaker 1>Chelm several points real quickly. Why did Muller never say

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:47.440
<v Speaker 1>this before, that the sitting president couldn't be indicted? This

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 1>was the subject of discussion day after day by the

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 1>president's lawyers. How outrageous this was. Number Two, if there

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 1>never could be a criminal prosecution of the president, and

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Muller understood that, why was six hundred point one of

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<v Speaker 1>the regulations triggered that requires a criminal finding that there's

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 1>a criminal prosecution or investigation of a personal matter that

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:09.359
<v Speaker 1>justice had a conflict with Under six hundred point two.

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<v Speaker 1>There were alternatives to this, including just an initial investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>As Greg said, innuendo is tougher than a specific charge

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 1>to defend against. You can't defend against it, and they

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<v Speaker 1>make it worse by saying if there were no crime

0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 1>than they would have made that clear. Last thing is,

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:26.759
<v Speaker 1>you can bet your bottom dollar that if they had

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<v Speaker 1>evidence of a crime here with people like Andrew Weissman,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Muller on this committee in Special Counsel's Office, they

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:35.600
<v Speaker 1>would have laid that out. They would have said what

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<v Speaker 1>the crimes were. They would have said, their evidence, but

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<v Speaker 1>we can't charge them because he's a sitting president. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and your take, Andy McCarthy, I mean, if you decided

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<v Speaker 1>when you work for the Southern District of New York

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<v Speaker 1>not to indite somebody, you decided not to indite them.

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:52.799
<v Speaker 1>Do you go out there and say, well, do you

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 1>leave a cloud of suspicion? Well, we think we might

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 1>have been there, but we weren't there. And how do

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:04.359
<v Speaker 1>you reconcile all the varying statements. I mean, if Rod Rosenstein,

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<v Speaker 1>office illegal Counsel, the Attorney General in made what was

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty clear, quick decision that had no basis or

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<v Speaker 1>even considering this question of Justice Department policy about indicting

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<v Speaker 1>a president of the United States while in office, he

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<v Speaker 1>was clear that was not a consideration. Well, Sean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think now we have to really look at the timeline

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<v Speaker 1>of that, because what happened here it looks to me

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<v Speaker 1>like is Muller met with Barr on March fifth. That's

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<v Speaker 1>when they say they had their first conversation. According to

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<v Speaker 1>Barr's testimony, and as I understand it, it it was at

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<v Speaker 1>that meeting that Muller repeatedly told Barr I think Barr

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<v Speaker 1>said three times, and he was emphatic about it, that

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<v Speaker 1>the OLC guidance was not the reason why Muller had

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<v Speaker 1>decided not to make a decision about obstruct And then

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Barr asked him, well, what is your reasoning and Mueller said,

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<v Speaker 1>we're still formulating that. And then by two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half weeks later, on March twenty second, when Mueller delivers

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the report, he has this whole section in the beginning

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 1>of the obstruction part of the report that really lays

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<v Speaker 1>it at the feet of the OLC guidance. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's probably what happened. That's probably why the

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General said what he said. And you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems to me that Mueller. The one thing that Mueller

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<v Speaker 1>decided was he wasn't going to decide. He didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be the one to pull the trigger, and he

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't come up with a coherent reason for not making

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<v Speaker 1>the only decision that he was really arguably needed to make.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think there should be a special counsel at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And then at the last minute he obviously decided, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll lay it at the feet of the OLC guidance. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>but Muller, everybody knew about Justice Department policy anyway, correct, Well,

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:07.800
<v Speaker 1>they did, Sean. But you know, look, there's a big difference.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is one of the things that really bothers

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<v Speaker 1>me about Muller. There is a big difference between the

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<v Speaker 1>role of the prosecutor who was investigating the case and

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<v Speaker 1>the Justice Department that has to enforce Justice Department policy.

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<v Speaker 1>It was none of Mueller's concern that there's OLC guidance

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<v Speaker 1>that says you can't indict a sitting president. The only

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 1>thing Mueller needed to do, as the prosecutor who was

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<v Speaker 1>handling the case was tell the Justice Department, yes, there's

0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 1>enough evidence to charge, or no, there's not enough evidence

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 1>to charge. And if he thought there was enough evidence

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<v Speaker 1>to charge, then you tell the Justice Department that. And

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<v Speaker 1>if the Attorney General at that point wants to invoke

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<v Speaker 1>the policy that says a sitting president can't be indicted,

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<v Speaker 1>then the Attorney General can invoke it. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>no reason for the prosecutors working on the case to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about that. And he's one hundred percent right, And

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<v Speaker 1>that decision, by the way by the Attorney General would

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<v Speaker 1>be made, should have been made on the front end.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the first point he made that the Special

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<v Speaker 1>Council never should have been appointed the Attorney General, the

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<v Speaker 1>assistant Attorney General and this point, at this point, Rosenstein

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<v Speaker 1>well knew OLC policy and knew that there wouldn't be

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 1>a criminal prosecution of the president under that policy. What

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<v Speaker 1>Mueller told us today, what we knew he has cost

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:25.879
<v Speaker 1>to taxpayers millions of dollars and paralyze the presidency for

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 1>two years for nothing. Well, John, could I say, what

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<v Speaker 1>could do one other thing? Something that's got to be

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<v Speaker 1>decided now that I think Barr was trying to sidestep.

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<v Speaker 1>There's clearly a difference between Barr and Muller about what

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<v Speaker 1>the legal requirements are for obstruction, and I think Barr

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:46.480
<v Speaker 1>tries to sidestep that by saying, even if we apply

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Mueller's looser standard on the facts of the case here,

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the government would not be able to prove obstruction beyond

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 1>a reasonable dab. Now, I think with Mueller's report out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and with Mueller saying I can't say that this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a crime, it's really incumbent on the Justice Department and

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:07.359
<v Speaker 1>the Office of Legal Counsel at this point to step

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 1>in and tell us what is the Justice Department's position

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:14.799
<v Speaker 1>on what obstruction law says. Is it Muller's position or

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:16.880
<v Speaker 1>is it some other position. You know. One of the

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:21.920
<v Speaker 1>interesting things, Greg Jarrett, is, you know Mueller takes this

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:25.400
<v Speaker 1>position today, but if we look at the whole case.

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Nobody was charged. He didn't even return one charge because

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:34.239
<v Speaker 1>there was no evidence as it relates to any of

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 1>these issues. And you know, and then we get to

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:41.279
<v Speaker 1>the whole issue, Well, what does the law mandate? I mean,

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 1>then we get to the double standard issue, because okay,

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:47.759
<v Speaker 1>if there was no underlying crime, you never believed there

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 1>was an underlying crime. You believed in your innocence. You

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:53.239
<v Speaker 1>proclaimed your innocence, as the president did every single day.

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 1>And while you know, Don mcgane could say that he

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 1>might have suggested firing Muller, well somebody else would have

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 1>replaced Mueller because of a conflict of interest that would

0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 1>be within the president's power is under article too. But

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:11.319
<v Speaker 1>the president never fired Mueller, never fired Rod Rosenstein, let

0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the investigation go forward. He encouraged everybody in the White

0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:18.799
<v Speaker 1>House publicly and privately to testify. They all did one

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 1>point five million documents handed over in the process of

0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:25.759
<v Speaker 1>all this. And saying that this is a witch hunt,

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:32.440
<v Speaker 1>hardly is obstruction. Where is the obstruction, Well, there is none.

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 1>First of all, there are two US Supreme Court decisions

0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:40.880
<v Speaker 1>that say general statutes don't apply to a president who's

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 1>exercising his constitutional authority unless those statutes say so. If

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:49.239
<v Speaker 1>you look at all of the obstruction statutes, they do

0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:53.720
<v Speaker 1>not expressly apply as president. So is a constitutional matter

0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:58.800
<v Speaker 1>in things like firing James Comey and the words allegedly

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 1>uttered about Michael Flynn, those as a constitutional proposition to

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 1>not qualify under obstruction of statute. But even if you

0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 1>accept some sort of expansive, elastic interpretation of obstruction as

0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:21.000
<v Speaker 1>it applies to the president, for every allegedly incriminating finding

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 1>in Mueller's report, there is a corresponding exculpatory explanation. So

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:33.359
<v Speaker 1>even there, there's no corrupt intent or improper purpose as

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 1>obstruction requires. So on all fours obstruction has no application

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 1>to the president. What concerns me here is that Mueller's

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:45.560
<v Speaker 1>peddling two different stories. He you know, he says to

0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:50.600
<v Speaker 1>the public that the OLC opinion that he can't charge

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:53.640
<v Speaker 1>a sitting president prevented him from doing his job, and yet,

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:58.360
<v Speaker 1>according to Bill Barr's testimony and his statement to the media,

0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 1>he was specifically told by Mueller on three occasions that

0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the OLC opinion has nothing to do with his decision.

0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:09.480
<v Speaker 1>So somebody, you know, somebody's not telling the truth here,

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:12.760
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I don't know who it is, but

0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you this much. Mueller's story doesn't really stand up,

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:19.399
<v Speaker 1>and I want to pick up on that point when

0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:22.719
<v Speaker 1>we get back Greg Jarrett, Andy McCarthy, David Shone with

0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:25.399
<v Speaker 1>US eight hundred and nine f one. Shawn told free

0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:27.719
<v Speaker 1>telephone number. We'll get Bill O'Reilly's take at the top

0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 1>of the next hour. Conducted an independent criminal investigation and

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:35.839
<v Speaker 1>reported the results to the Attorney General as required by

0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:39.319
<v Speaker 1>Department regulations. Now, I hope and expect this to be

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 1>the only time that I will speak to you in

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:45.120
<v Speaker 1>this matter. I am making that decision myself. No one

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:48.480
<v Speaker 1>has told me whether I can or should testify or

0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 1>speak further about this matter. There has been discussion about

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:56.200
<v Speaker 1>an appearance before Congress. Any testimony from this office would

0:46:56.200 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 1>not go beyond our report. It pains our findings and

0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:05.560
<v Speaker 1>analysis and the reasons for the decisions we made. We

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 1>chose those words carefully, and the work speaks for itself,

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and the report is my testimony. I would not provide

0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 1>information beyond that which is already public in any appearance

0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:20.520
<v Speaker 1>before Congress. Yeah, but I'd love to get answers to questions,

0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:23.279
<v Speaker 1>when did he know there was no collusion. I'd like

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:25.600
<v Speaker 1>to know, Well, if you had time for taxi medallions,

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:30.759
<v Speaker 1>loan applications, taxes, and Pharaoh violations, why didn't you have

0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 1>time for a foreign put together phony Russian dossier that

0:47:37.840 --> 0:47:42.520
<v Speaker 1>was used as the basis of a Faizo warrant before

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:45.360
<v Speaker 1>the election and after the election, paid for by the

0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:50.160
<v Speaker 1>opposition party? Was that not? Is the New York Times

0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:53.960
<v Speaker 1>right in their description that it was very likely Russian disinformation.

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's a little bit more important than taxi medallions

0:47:57.320 --> 0:48:01.319
<v Speaker 1>and a little bit more important than Pharao violations. I

0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:05.040
<v Speaker 1>don't think Mueller wanted to answer any of these questions.

0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:08.120
<v Speaker 1>So Democrats are doing what they do, which is, you know,

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 1>of course, as Nadler out there, of course peach and

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 1>peachment is on the table. Muller found substantial evidence of

0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:17.960
<v Speaker 1>obstruction of justice. No, he did not point out to

0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:21.520
<v Speaker 1>me where that evidence is. Mueller could not charge Trump

0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:25.720
<v Speaker 1>because of Justice Department rules. That's not even what he's saying.

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:30.400
<v Speaker 1>And the Attorney General, which again people like Nadler never wanted.

0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 1>The Star report with eleven specific charges that Congress should

0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:38.040
<v Speaker 1>look into. With Bill Clinton, he didn't want that public

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:42.279
<v Speaker 1>and the former law was changed into the current law,

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:45.920
<v Speaker 1>which was you know, we used to have, you know,

0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:49.120
<v Speaker 1>very different way of handling all of this, and we've

0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:55.880
<v Speaker 1>gone over in detail. So okay, what does this all mean? Anyway,

0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:58.800
<v Speaker 1>we continue with Andy McCarthy, David Shoon and Greg Jarrett,

0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:03.279
<v Speaker 1>where it looks to me like Muller just made a

0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:08.160
<v Speaker 1>quick political statement with no substance in fact, when in fact,

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:13.719
<v Speaker 1>the current law as it is written, the call was

0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:16.480
<v Speaker 1>to be made by the Attorney General if he decided

0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:19.759
<v Speaker 1>not to make one. Greg Jarrett absolutely, and you know,

0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure I understand the whole point of Muller's

0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:25.719
<v Speaker 1>statement today that lasted about ten minutes. Not going to

0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:28.399
<v Speaker 1>take any questions, I'm not going to testify, which by

0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 1>the way, he has no choice of doing if he

0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:33.719
<v Speaker 1>receives his subpoena. He's not above the law. But so

0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:37.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, this strikes me as yet another effort by

0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:41.240
<v Speaker 1>Muller to smear the president with a taint of criminality,

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:44.520
<v Speaker 1>when in fact, to his report, if you really dig

0:49:44.560 --> 0:49:48.040
<v Speaker 1>through it, as I have three times, demonstrate that there's

0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:52.040
<v Speaker 1>no obstruction of justice. And let me make one other point,

0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:56.120
<v Speaker 1>about the Office of Legal Counsel opinion. Go back and

0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 1>look at bars testimony before the Senate. He said that

0:50:00.320 --> 0:50:02.719
<v Speaker 1>told him that there might be a case in which

0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:06.640
<v Speaker 1>president can be charged while sitting in office, and that

0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:11.839
<v Speaker 1>the OLC opinion can be quote unquote abandoned. So, you know,

0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:14.160
<v Speaker 1>this whole thing strikes me as a bit of a

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:19.400
<v Speaker 1>charade by Mueller again to smear Trump and Andy McCarthy.

0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Your take on that part, well, Sean, I thought it

0:50:21.920 --> 0:50:25.319
<v Speaker 1>was pretty presumptuous of him to say that, you know,

0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:28.040
<v Speaker 1>my testimony is the report, so I wouldn't have anything

0:50:28.080 --> 0:50:32.080
<v Speaker 1>else to say. Can you mention a lawyer telling the

0:50:32.080 --> 0:50:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Court of Appeals when they ask you at a legal

0:50:35.920 --> 0:50:39.560
<v Speaker 1>argument some questions about the position you've taken in your

0:50:39.560 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 1>brief and you're are you going to tell them? Sorry,

0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:44.319
<v Speaker 1>your honor, I've already said everything I had to say

0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:46.879
<v Speaker 1>in the brief, and you know, how dare you ask

0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 1>me any more questions? Of course, if he gets subpoened,

0:50:49.840 --> 0:50:51.600
<v Speaker 1>he's going to have to come in and he's going

0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:53.759
<v Speaker 1>to have to answer questions, and he's going to have

0:50:53.760 --> 0:50:58.160
<v Speaker 1>to answer questions about his investigative decisions, which include I

0:50:58.160 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 1>think the Act that he probably knew that there was

0:51:03.160 --> 0:51:07.960
<v Speaker 1>no collusion case as early as I'd say probably September

0:51:08.000 --> 0:51:11.040
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen, when they didn't go back to the FISA

0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:14.640
<v Speaker 1>court and ask for another warrant on Carter page. So

0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:18.919
<v Speaker 1>there's a pretty important question here about especially if they're

0:51:18.920 --> 0:51:22.640
<v Speaker 1>going to try to push a lot of obstructive obstructive

0:51:22.680 --> 0:51:26.720
<v Speaker 1>conduct that happened after that point, according to Muller's own report,

0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Why wasn't the president and why wasn't the country told

0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:32.840
<v Speaker 1>that there was no collusion case against the president. I

0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:35.120
<v Speaker 1>think I think things would have gone a lot differently

0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:37.279
<v Speaker 1>if that had happened. Yeah, and David, what were you

0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:38.960
<v Speaker 1>going to say? Two things? I think, First of all,

0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Mueller owed if this is his position, He owed that

0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:43.480
<v Speaker 1>to the American public almost two years ago when the

0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:46.480
<v Speaker 1>president's lawyers were saying it that about the OLC policy.

0:51:46.560 --> 0:51:48.840
<v Speaker 1>But think about this other angle that what Mueller said today.

0:51:49.040 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 1>He said, first of all, that Barr made more of

0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:53.200
<v Speaker 1>the report public than he had to, and that he

0:51:53.280 --> 0:51:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Mueller appreciated that, and that he Mueller would not go

0:51:56.040 --> 0:51:59.359
<v Speaker 1>beyond any testimony, give any testimony beyond what's been made

0:51:59.400 --> 0:52:02.480
<v Speaker 1>public in the report. Now, when mister Barr took that position,

0:52:02.800 --> 0:52:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Nadler and Schiff called them essentially a traitor. He's going

0:52:05.960 --> 0:52:08.600
<v Speaker 1>to be thrown out of office. Etat. Let's see what

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:11.640
<v Speaker 1>they say about mister Muller taking that same position, because

0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:14.360
<v Speaker 1>he's been their hero for quite a while. So basically,

0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:17.719
<v Speaker 1>we're dealing with politics, not the law, Greg That is

0:52:17.960 --> 0:52:21.320
<v Speaker 1>the way I'm hearing this. Oh absolutely. And you know, again,

0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:24.200
<v Speaker 1>if you read the Special Counsel report, it's four hundred

0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:29.359
<v Speaker 1>and forty eight pages of politics and not so much

0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:32.600
<v Speaker 1>the law. And it's almost as if you can tell

0:52:32.680 --> 0:52:36.520
<v Speaker 1>that that Muller and his team of partisans knew that

0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:40.360
<v Speaker 1>there was no legal basis for an obstruction case against

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:43.280
<v Speaker 1>the president, and so they sort of twisted the facts

0:52:43.280 --> 0:52:47.200
<v Speaker 1>and tried to contort the law to create the suggestion

0:52:47.280 --> 0:52:51.680
<v Speaker 1>to imply that it might be possible. But but you know,

0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:54.839
<v Speaker 1>trust me, if if they had evidence of a case

0:52:54.840 --> 0:52:58.239
<v Speaker 1>against the president, Muller would have said so explicitly, and

0:52:58.360 --> 0:53:02.360
<v Speaker 1>he would have moved to as he told Bar abandoned

0:53:02.400 --> 0:53:05.680
<v Speaker 1>the Office of Legal Counsel opinion that you can't charge

0:53:05.680 --> 0:53:09.240
<v Speaker 1>a sitting precedent. That's an advisory opinion. It is not binding.

0:53:09.280 --> 0:53:12.799
<v Speaker 1>It is not mandatory, you know it is. This is

0:53:12.840 --> 0:53:16.200
<v Speaker 1>our opinion, But according to Muller, he is free to

0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:19.680
<v Speaker 1>abandon it in a case where there's solid evidence. Well,

0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:22.960
<v Speaker 1>it seems to me that any investigation if this is

0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:26.319
<v Speaker 1>the practice, and Andy, I mean, you've run some very

0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:31.759
<v Speaker 1>high profile cases, the blind Shake among them in the

0:53:31.800 --> 0:53:35.440
<v Speaker 1>First World Trade Center issues. If that's the case, then

0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:41.840
<v Speaker 1>basically prosecutors can leave a cloud hanging over anybody any time,

0:53:42.040 --> 0:53:45.759
<v Speaker 1>even though there is not evidence that rises to the

0:53:45.880 --> 0:53:50.319
<v Speaker 1>level of an indictment. And that is a troublesome I

0:53:50.360 --> 0:53:54.040
<v Speaker 1>think precedent for the country either you've got it or

0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:57.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't. And we know that there's no hidden indictment,

0:53:57.800 --> 0:54:01.279
<v Speaker 1>and we know that the Attorney General's decision did not

0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:06.080
<v Speaker 1>even factor into any consideration Justice Department policy. But based

0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:08.799
<v Speaker 1>on the facts is presented in the report, it did

0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:11.840
<v Speaker 1>not rise to any level of any crime. Yeah. Well, Sean,

0:54:11.920 --> 0:54:14.359
<v Speaker 1>That's why I think you really have to now get

0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:18.000
<v Speaker 1>straightened out what the Justice Department's position is on obstruction,

0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:21.560
<v Speaker 1>because I don't think Muller's position on the legal elements

0:54:21.560 --> 0:54:24.560
<v Speaker 1>of obstruction is the same as the Attorney generals And

0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:27.280
<v Speaker 1>I think that has to be straightened out. But as

0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:30.080
<v Speaker 1>to your other point, you know, look, it's the rule

0:54:30.120 --> 0:54:33.760
<v Speaker 1>of the road in the Justice Department that the government

0:54:33.800 --> 0:54:36.800
<v Speaker 1>speaks in court. You speak when you are ready to

0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:40.839
<v Speaker 1>formally charge someone, because it's at that point in our

0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:44.520
<v Speaker 1>system that an accused is given all of the rights

0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:49.000
<v Speaker 1>that are guaranteed under the Constitution to confront a government's charge.

0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:51.600
<v Speaker 1>So at that point it's a fair fight. What prosecutors

0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:55.319
<v Speaker 1>are not supposed to do is collect information for the

0:54:55.360 --> 0:54:58.640
<v Speaker 1>sake of collecting it and then publicize it in a

0:54:58.719 --> 0:55:02.040
<v Speaker 1>way that taints and convict someone in the court of

0:55:02.040 --> 0:55:05.800
<v Speaker 1>a public opinion. That's that's simply not supposed to happen.

0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:09.279
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I would point out that Rod Rosenstein,

0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:12.680
<v Speaker 1>who ran this investigation in the sense of supervising it

0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:16.560
<v Speaker 1>for a very long time, fired Jim Comey as the

0:55:16.640 --> 0:55:22.640
<v Speaker 1>FBI director for speaking about the evidence in the Hillary

0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Clinton case because Missus Clinton hadn't been charged. That was

0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:30.080
<v Speaker 1>the whole rationale for removing comy. So, you know, to

0:55:30.120 --> 0:55:32.399
<v Speaker 1>take that position and then to see this happen here

0:55:32.440 --> 0:55:35.959
<v Speaker 1>is really it's difficult to square. All right, quick break

0:55:36.040 --> 0:55:38.920
<v Speaker 1>more with Andy McCarthy, Greg Jarrett and David Shone on

0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:41.440
<v Speaker 1>the other side, and Bill O'Reilly at the top of

0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:43.919
<v Speaker 1>the hours. All right, as we continue with David shown,

0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:48.279
<v Speaker 1>Greg Jarrett, Andy McCarthy, let's go back to Barr's testimony

0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:52.840
<v Speaker 1>and an exchange that he had with Lindsey Graham, because

0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:57.120
<v Speaker 1>from this day forward, once the Attorney General Deputy Attorney General,

0:55:57.160 --> 0:56:01.440
<v Speaker 1>once they made their decision after the Mueller report came in,

0:56:01.480 --> 0:56:03.880
<v Speaker 1>it was made quickly that they were not moving forward

0:56:03.960 --> 0:56:08.480
<v Speaker 1>with any prosecution in any way. Whether with all the

0:56:08.560 --> 0:56:12.080
<v Speaker 1>noise that we'll hear from Congress in the media, mob

0:56:12.440 --> 0:56:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Mueller is still a dead issue, but all of these

0:56:15.160 --> 0:56:19.040
<v Speaker 1>other issues are very much alive, and we know the

0:56:19.120 --> 0:56:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Inspector General awaits Hubert Awaits, We now have Durham investigating

0:56:26.719 --> 0:56:29.480
<v Speaker 1>on his side, and we have the Attorney General promising

0:56:29.600 --> 0:56:32.319
<v Speaker 1>full investigations into all of this. Do you share my

0:56:32.400 --> 0:56:36.400
<v Speaker 1>concerns about the FISA warrant process. Yes? Do you share

0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:39.480
<v Speaker 1>my concerns about the counter intelligence investigation, how it was

0:56:39.520 --> 0:56:42.240
<v Speaker 1>opened and why it was opened? Yes? Do you share

0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:46.960
<v Speaker 1>my concerns at the professional lack of professionalism in the

0:56:47.000 --> 0:56:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Clinton email investigations, something we should all look at. Yes.

0:56:51.400 --> 0:56:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you expect to change your mind about the bottom

0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:58.400
<v Speaker 1>line conclusions of the Muller report. No. Do you know

0:56:58.520 --> 0:57:02.799
<v Speaker 1>Bob Mueller? Yes? Do you trust him? Yes? How long

0:57:02.840 --> 0:57:06.399
<v Speaker 1>have you known him? Thirty years roughly. Do you think

0:57:06.400 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 1>he had time he needed yes? You think he had

0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the money he needed? Yes? You think he had the

0:57:11.560 --> 0:57:14.719
<v Speaker 1>resources he needed? Yes. Do you think he did a

0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:18.280
<v Speaker 1>thorough job. Yes, and I think he feels he did

0:57:18.280 --> 0:57:22.880
<v Speaker 1>a thorough job and had adequate evidence to make the calls.

0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Do you think the president's campaign in twenty sixteen was

0:57:26.800 --> 0:57:29.040
<v Speaker 1>thoroughly looked at in terms of whether or not they

0:57:29.080 --> 0:57:33.360
<v Speaker 1>colluded with the Russians? Yes, and the answer is no

0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:37.880
<v Speaker 1>according to Bob Muller, that's right. He couldn't decide about obstruction.

0:57:38.240 --> 0:57:41.120
<v Speaker 1>You did, Is that correct? That's right? You feel good

0:57:41.120 --> 0:57:45.520
<v Speaker 1>about your decision? Absolutely so andy to me. I hear

0:57:45.560 --> 0:57:48.960
<v Speaker 1>that the Attorney general, I mean, they'd love to smear him,

0:57:49.000 --> 0:57:51.560
<v Speaker 1>But the bottom line is he had the final say

0:57:51.560 --> 0:57:54.760
<v Speaker 1>on this. It's still over. Well, it's over as far

0:57:54.800 --> 0:57:58.800
<v Speaker 1>as a prosecution matter is concerned. You know the problem here, Sean,

0:57:59.600 --> 0:58:04.360
<v Speaker 1>is that what Mueller essentially said today was and this

0:58:04.560 --> 0:58:10.120
<v Speaker 1>is exactly the political signaling that I think my fellow

0:58:10.120 --> 0:58:15.000
<v Speaker 1>panelists are pointing to what Muller said was if I

0:58:15.040 --> 0:58:18.360
<v Speaker 1>could have said there was no obstruction, I would have.

0:58:19.040 --> 0:58:22.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't say that. I didn't say there was obstruction.

0:58:22.400 --> 0:58:25.680
<v Speaker 1>But that's because there's Office of Legal Counsel guidance that

0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:29.360
<v Speaker 1>prevented me from saying that. And by the way, in

0:58:29.400 --> 0:58:35.200
<v Speaker 1>this system, it's for Congress, not federal prosecutors, to discipline

0:58:35.720 --> 0:58:40.439
<v Speaker 1>a president who has been accused of committing misconduct. So

0:58:40.520 --> 0:58:43.080
<v Speaker 1>it seems to me that what he has basically done

0:58:43.080 --> 0:58:46.600
<v Speaker 1>for the Democrats is to signal to them, Hey, look, guys,

0:58:47.800 --> 0:58:50.560
<v Speaker 1>you know I could have found felonies here, and the

0:58:50.600 --> 0:58:53.120
<v Speaker 1>only thing that stopped me was the Office of Legal

0:58:53.160 --> 0:58:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Counsel guidance. And you guys don't even need felonies. So

0:58:56.280 --> 0:58:58.880
<v Speaker 1>here you go, and the constitution says it's on you

0:58:58.960 --> 0:59:01.920
<v Speaker 1>to take or the president you don't have at it.

0:59:02.360 --> 0:59:05.200
<v Speaker 1>And you know, it just seems to me that that

0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:09.439
<v Speaker 1>is the that's the argument that got made today, which

0:59:09.520 --> 0:59:11.640
<v Speaker 1>is why as far as people who are pushing for

0:59:12.400 --> 0:59:14.920
<v Speaker 1>impeachment or concerned, I think they got you know, they

0:59:15.000 --> 0:59:18.240
<v Speaker 1>got a turbo charge today. Yeah. Well, again, that's a

0:59:18.280 --> 0:59:22.880
<v Speaker 1>political process, and that's very different Greg We have spoken

0:59:22.920 --> 0:59:27.400
<v Speaker 1>at length with the declassification last week, and now the

0:59:27.440 --> 0:59:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Attorney General having access to everything, I would assume the

0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:34.920
<v Speaker 1>big five buckets we always talk about will become public.

0:59:35.520 --> 0:59:39.400
<v Speaker 1>And when that happens, as I've been saying, well, the

0:59:39.480 --> 0:59:42.840
<v Speaker 1>curtain is now rising in the second act of this

0:59:43.320 --> 0:59:47.000
<v Speaker 1>entire saga, and it is going to be brutal in

0:59:47.120 --> 0:59:50.160
<v Speaker 1>terms of what people are going to learn. That was

0:59:50.320 --> 0:59:54.280
<v Speaker 1>done to in the twenty sixteen election, What was done

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<v Speaker 1>to save a failed candidate that should have been indicted,

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<v Speaker 1>What was done with real Russian this information paid for

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<v Speaker 1>and leaked to the media to impact the twenty sixteen elections,

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<v Speaker 1>and so on and so forth. I think the Russian

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<v Speaker 1>hoax is about to unravel, and we will, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>learn the details and it'll come to us not only

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<v Speaker 1>through these declassifications that you refer to, but the Inspector

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<v Speaker 1>General's report as well. I mean, I think there is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of evidence of corrupt acts, improper acts by

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<v Speaker 1>officials at the FBI and to some extent, the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice that they were putting their thumb on the

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<v Speaker 1>scales in a presidential election. So much discussion about Russian

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<v Speaker 1>interference in the election. How about FBI and Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Justice interference in the election by using opposition research paid

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<v Speaker 1>for by Hillary Clinton and Russian disinformation in order to

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<v Speaker 1>damage a presidential candidate, and thereafter, upon his election, to

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<v Speaker 1>try to frame him for something he didn't do. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think Americans will be surprised by this, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think they'll probably be some criminal referrals and evidence will likely,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, be presented to a grand jury if William

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<v Speaker 1>barges in that direction. All right, I want to thank

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<v Speaker 1>you all for the time today, Greg Jarrett, David Shone,

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<v Speaker 1>Andy McCarthy, three of the smartest attorneys I know, well

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot more in Hannity tonight. Thank you all

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us. We did, not, however, make a determination

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<v Speaker 1>as to whether the president did commit a crime. The

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<v Speaker 1>introduction to the Volume two of our report explains that decision.

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<v Speaker 1>It explains that, under longstanding Department policy, as president cannot

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<v Speaker 1>be charged with a federal crime while he is in office.

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<v Speaker 1>That is unconstitutional. Even if the charge is kept under

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<v Speaker 1>sealed and hidden from public view, that too is prohibited.

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<v Speaker 1>The Special Council Office, as part of the Department of Justice,

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<v Speaker 1>and by regulation, it was bound by that Department policy

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<v Speaker 1>charging the president with a crime was therefore not an

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<v Speaker 1>option we could consider. Special Counsel Mola today repeated three

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<v Speaker 1>central points which are critical for the American people. One,

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<v Speaker 1>the Special Counsel did not exonerate the President of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States of obstruction of justice. Two, obstruction of justice,

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<v Speaker 1>of which Special Counsel Mola found substantial evidence, is a

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<v Speaker 1>serious crime that strikes at the core of our justice system. Three,

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<v Speaker 1>the Constitution points to Congress to take action to hold

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<v Speaker 1>the president accountable where his misconduct. Unfortunately, Special Counsel Moulla

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<v Speaker 1>was unable to pursue criminal charges against the President because

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice policy prevents a sitting president from being prosecuted.

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<v Speaker 1>That policy, in my opinion, is wrong, but it prevented

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<v Speaker 1>the Special Counsel from pursuing justice to the fullest extent possible. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 1>as Mueller again highlighted this morning, it falls to Congress

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<v Speaker 1>to respond to the crimes, lies, and other wrongdoing of

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump. We will do so. Make no mistake. No one,

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<v Speaker 1>not even the President of the United States, is above

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<v Speaker 1>the law. Okay, so what's the evidence, Because we've all

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<v Speaker 1>read the Mueller report. He says that is his testimony.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that we know that the Attorney General that

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<v Speaker 1>would be Barr, and we know the Deputy Attorney General

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<v Speaker 1>that would be Rod Rosenstein, and the Office Illegal Counsel

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<v Speaker 1>all said there's nothing here that rises to the level

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<v Speaker 1>of obstruction, and Bill Barr could not be any more

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<v Speaker 1>clear that it's over. You know, Barr's testimony before the

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<v Speaker 1>statement was well. Mueller stated three times to us in

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<v Speaker 1>a meeting in response to our questioning that he emphatically

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<v Speaker 1>was not saying that but for the Office of Legal

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<v Speaker 1>Council opinion, he would have found obstruction. So not saying

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<v Speaker 1>any of these things. But in the end that decision

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<v Speaker 1>was given. Now that we you know, we have a

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<v Speaker 1>new special Council law because people like Jerry Nadler didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like the old law that was used under Clinton that

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<v Speaker 1>had eleven specific felonies listed by Ken Starr And in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't infer it is now the decision of the

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General of the United States, but it was made

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<v Speaker 1>along with the Deputy Attorney General, with the input of

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<v Speaker 1>the Office of Legal Counsel, and Barr said there were

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<v Speaker 1>several people in that meeting that confirm all this, joining

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<v Speaker 1>us now with all things. O'Reilly bill, O'Reilly dot com

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<v Speaker 1>is with us? How are you, sir? Busy? Just like you?

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<v Speaker 1>We're always busy? Yeah, I am alis so you. We're

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<v Speaker 1>too busy irish guys, which is good because we weren't busy,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd be getting into trouble, which we don't want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a few observations. I want to run by

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<v Speaker 1>you and see if you agree. Okay, let's do one

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<v Speaker 1>at a time, That's what I'll answer. Yeah, I'll do

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<v Speaker 1>one at a time, like the lightning round. Okay, O'Riley

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<v Speaker 1>lightning round. Upon his appearance today, in body language and inflection,

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<v Speaker 1>tone of voice, I think Muller despises Donald Trump, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but he likes apparently Attorney General Barr respects him, Bob,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't know like would be the right word. Respects

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<v Speaker 1>him all right. But he took no cheap shots and

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<v Speaker 1>made no snide remarks, and in the end basically said

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't have a problem with anything Bars said or done. Correct. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So he loathes Trump, he likes Bar or respects Bar.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's almost incompatible because Bar basically looked at his

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<v Speaker 1>report and deep brief Muller, as you just pointed out

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<v Speaker 1>in person, and came to the conclusion that after two years,

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<v Speaker 1>Mueller had no evidence that would rise to an indictment. Ever,

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<v Speaker 1>not during a president's term or after he leaves office. Correct, correct,

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<v Speaker 1>so far, you're on your game, mister O'Riley, keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>So then why are we going through this exercise? That's

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<v Speaker 1>the next question the American people, those with open minds,

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<v Speaker 1>Why why are we doing this? Why is a special

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<v Speaker 1>counsel implying that maybe there was a crime, Because that's

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<v Speaker 1>not what a prosecutor does or an investigator. Basically, they

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<v Speaker 1>come to a conclusion. And if they don't have enough evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>that in itself is a conclusion in our system of justice.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't have enough to charge, the person is

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<v Speaker 1>completely not guilty. That is the most important statement that

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<v Speaker 1>you have now made. And that is this the way

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<v Speaker 1>American justice works if you don't have the evidence. And

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<v Speaker 1>remember he said, and Barr said, when he and Rosenstein

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<v Speaker 1>and the Office of the Legal Counsel made their decision,

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<v Speaker 1>Justice Department policy about whether you can or cannot indict

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<v Speaker 1>a sitting president was never factored into their decision. Doesn't matter,

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't because Muller is not barred from doing what

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<v Speaker 1>ken Store did. That is saying in his report we

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<v Speaker 1>found this, this, and this to be felonious. He can

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely say that it'd state that, backing it up with

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they found. Now, let's advance the story a little bit. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let me ask you one question and then we'll go back.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll go back to your lightning round. Do you also believe,

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<v Speaker 1>as I do, if they had the evidence that Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump had committed any crime. Now, the fact that you're saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't exonerate somebody does not make you guilty, nor

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<v Speaker 1>does it rise to the level of an indictment, which

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<v Speaker 1>was very important. But do you doubt the team that

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<v Speaker 1>Muller put together only Democratic donors, somebody with one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most atrocious track records in terms of unethical behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Weissman, Genie Ray, Clinton's former attorney at the Clinton Foundation,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have any doubt they would have been clear

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<v Speaker 1>that they thought the president committed a crime. No, but

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<v Speaker 1>let's take politics out of it. Let's advance the story

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<v Speaker 1>into the legal realm. If Robert Mueller had evidence Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump committed a crime and didn't state that evidence in

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<v Speaker 1>his report. Then Robert Muller himself is guilty of obstruction

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<v Speaker 1>of justice. That's a good point. Robert Mueller could be

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<v Speaker 1>prosecuted himself if he has it in there was a

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<v Speaker 1>crime committed and did not state that evidence under his mandate,

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<v Speaker 1>under the charge he was given, you could bring him

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<v Speaker 1>in and charge him with a felony. That's how absurd

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing was today. It even gets worse. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you one of the things. And it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Nadler seems to now be in protective mode of Mueller

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<v Speaker 1>because they can compel him to testify. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>could hold him in contempt. Now, Mueller's that going to

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<v Speaker 1>say anything you didn't say today? Well, but here's the bill,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the problem. You also have guys like Jim Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>and Mark Meadows. He would have to answer, when did

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<v Speaker 1>you know there was no collusion between the Trump campaign

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<v Speaker 1>and Russia? He would have to answer, well, hang on

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<v Speaker 1>those whatever he wanted to site did a total waste

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<v Speaker 1>of time. Okay, But the next question, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he can go back to the report. How is it

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<v Speaker 1>you had time for insignificant Farah violations and taxi medallions?

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<v Speaker 1>Loan applications and taxes. And your main mandate was Russian interference.

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<v Speaker 1>And you never looked at the dirty Russian dossier that

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary Clinton pay for. He could just wipe that out

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<v Speaker 1>of the park. It was that, and we were on

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<v Speaker 1>this court. The mandate gave him clearance to go in

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<v Speaker 1>any direction he needed to go. But he's got He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say our guidelines were this, we did this. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be stupefying not to say that neither. It

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<v Speaker 1>won't call him, but Mueller covered himself on that. Realm

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<v Speaker 1>Muller will stay within his eight minute statement. He will.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't even think that's important. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I think is important that is that the American people

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<v Speaker 1>understand the bigger picture that's going on here. Number One,

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<v Speaker 1>the president of the United States is being denied due

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<v Speaker 1>priests unto the law. I mean, that's pretty outrageous itself,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Number Two, the obstruction that Nadler's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>coming to If you read the report, there are just

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<v Speaker 1>two things that Muller cited that could rise. The firing

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<v Speaker 1>of James Comey and the order to the counselor McCann.

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<v Speaker 1>The President's counselor to get rid of X, Y and

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<v Speaker 1>Z or do something to sen which was never, of

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<v Speaker 1>course carried out. Because you and I know Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>and events. He vents as most people do, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>most innocent people, and in this case, the president saying

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<v Speaker 1>loudly every day, I never did this, that's right, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can imagine his frustration on certain days and he's

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta get rid of this one, or we got

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<v Speaker 1>to do this. That's not obstruction of justice. There must

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<v Speaker 1>be an act now if you're going to pin a case,

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<v Speaker 1>a felonious case, on the firing of James Coomy. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>Mueller's big problem. Here's why he couldn't have that in

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<v Speaker 1>his report, because it's more than likely that William Barr

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<v Speaker 1>is going to release an Inspector General's report that says

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<v Speaker 1>Coomy broke the law that's coming. Muller could not be

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<v Speaker 1>on Komy's side and could not cite Coomy as part

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<v Speaker 1>of an obstructive situation. Because Komy, I firmly believe, is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be indicted himself, and you know you and

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<v Speaker 1>I have talked about this. This is the time for

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration to get that Inspector General's report out tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. Let the Nadlers of the world

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<v Speaker 1>right Donald Trump in the court of public opinion. So

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<v Speaker 1>get it out. It's done, release it all right, quick,

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<v Speaker 1>break up. We'll come back more with Bill O'Reilly on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side, Bill O'Reilly dot com for all things

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<v Speaker 1>O'Reilly world. All right, as we continue, Bill O'Reilly is

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<v Speaker 1>with us, going over the news Robert Mueller's press conference

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<v Speaker 1>from earlier today. You know, we both covered on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time the whole Clinton impeachment saga. The

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<v Speaker 1>day Bill Clinton did get impeached. Now, remember when you

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<v Speaker 1>go back to the old Independent Council statute and versus.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, people like Nadler didn't want the Star report out.

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<v Speaker 1>There were eleven specific crimes laid out in that report

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<v Speaker 1>by Ken Starr specific and the day that Bill Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>was impeached, and he also had to pay nearly a

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars to Paul Jones, and he lost his law license,

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<v Speaker 1>he had suborned perjury. He had a seventy three percent

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<v Speaker 1>approval rating. The next day, Bill, I say, let the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats do this politically and they will guarantee the reelection

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<v Speaker 1>of Donald Trump. Well, nattle shaky. Say did you see him?

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<v Speaker 1>Did he was he didn't know what to do? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was really shaky. And Muller looked tense, real tense.

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<v Speaker 1>Muller was not confident. There, no, all right, So they

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<v Speaker 1>understand that if you're going to put the nation through

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<v Speaker 1>two years of maybe could a, shoulda, would a, but

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<v Speaker 1>we really don't have it. But it might have happened,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Number One, fair minded people are going to

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<v Speaker 1>say this is unfair and what Muller I want to reiterate,

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<v Speaker 1>what Muller did today was unfair, okay. And number two,

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<v Speaker 1>the Independence which will decide the election twenty twenty, I

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<v Speaker 1>think are going to shift over and say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we may not like Donald Trump as a person, but

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<v Speaker 1>the machine up against him is corrupt and we're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to vote for a corrupt machine. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy Pelosi knows. That you put up Biden or anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>any of these people, and if that machine is perceived

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<v Speaker 1>to be a corrupt one, you're gonna lose. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very interesting, Bill, because there's something that's called overreach

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<v Speaker 1>here and the Democratic Party. I really believe that it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a Donald Trump lives in the brains of every

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat on Capitol Hill, but also in the media mob

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<v Speaker 1>separate and apart, but also important to me, And they

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<v Speaker 1>cannot at this point even help themselves from the compulsion

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<v Speaker 1>that that waits for them the moment their eyes open

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<v Speaker 1>every day. Which is what am I going to hate

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<v Speaker 1>this guy about today? That? I mean, it is that bad.

1:15:36.439 --> 1:15:39.840
<v Speaker 1>It is. We've gotten to a point where this rage psychosis.

1:15:40.560 --> 1:15:43.400
<v Speaker 1>It is they cannot believe they didn't get what they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted from Muller, and they can't believe the guy became president.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're still hopeful. See, the hardcore cadre on the

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<v Speaker 1>progressive left is still hopeful that something will emerge to

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<v Speaker 1>destroy Donald Trump. So they want to keep this thing going.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course they don't want to make a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they don't want to admit it. So the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times, how many articles did they convict Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump of the most heinous things you could convict them of?

1:16:10.600 --> 1:16:12.880
<v Speaker 1>How many times have they done it? New York Times

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<v Speaker 1>is going to turn around and go, ah, you know, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we might have been wrong on that. Never never, And

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<v Speaker 1>you know what is really fascinating to watch entities like CNN,

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<v Speaker 1>go down and down and down and still do it. Bill,

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<v Speaker 1>putting a baseball team on the field and you do.

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<v Speaker 1>You have nine guys, none of them can hit, and

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<v Speaker 1>you keep them on the field every single day and

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<v Speaker 1>you never win a right starting, you have a few

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<v Speaker 1>more minutes that you got work to do, because I

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<v Speaker 1>want to hold you through the break. No, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>this is fun. I like doing this. Hang on, Bill

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<v Speaker 1>O'Reilly's with us, Bill o'reiley dot com. He's got his

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<v Speaker 1>trump coming out in the fall. If you go to

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<v Speaker 1>his website you'll see it all right. Twenty five now

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<v Speaker 1>till the top of the hour. Eight hundred and nine

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<v Speaker 1>for one seawn is our number. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of the program, we'll get to a

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<v Speaker 1>few calls in a minute. Just a couple and more minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Two more questions with Bill O'Reilly and his website, Bill

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<v Speaker 1>oreilly dot com. You know, look, you have spent your

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<v Speaker 1>entire career in media, and I've had enough you know,

1:17:12.960 --> 1:17:16.599
<v Speaker 1>private conversations with you that I can literally say when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to television audiences, ratings. Um, Look, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>reason you were number one in cable for all those years.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way. You're welcome to take it back from

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<v Speaker 1>me anytime you want, because you can have all the

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<v Speaker 1>fire and incoming that I get every day since you left.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks a lot, appreciate it. Yeah, let me tell gives

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<v Speaker 1>me as a human shield. Well, you know what you're doing,

1:17:37.439 --> 1:17:41.120
<v Speaker 1>there's definite benefits and being number two, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>just go after the top guy, leave me alone. I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm kind of glad I'm out of it now.

1:17:48.240 --> 1:17:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Every day of my life I had to deal with it.

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<v Speaker 1>But what you're saying is that I understand the audience.

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<v Speaker 1>You understand television. Okay, So here's what my question. How

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<v Speaker 1>do these so called news networks get away with what

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<v Speaker 1>turns out to be outright lying for two years, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but a web of conspiracy theories that they peddled, mostly

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<v Speaker 1>with anonymous sources, hype and hyper ventilation any moment they

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<v Speaker 1>think they've got this president on the ropes because the

1:18:22.000 --> 1:18:26.880
<v Speaker 1>management condones it and at one point thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>going to make money off of it. So MSNBC was nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing for seventeen years. All right, So all of these

1:18:37.560 --> 1:18:41.719
<v Speaker 1>networks that say that they are news and they peddle

1:18:41.800 --> 1:18:46.280
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theories lies for two plus years and then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get to a second part of the question after

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<v Speaker 1>but how do they ever recover or do they never recover?

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<v Speaker 1>They don't recover. It's like Time magazine, Newsweek, Magazine, now

1:18:57.920 --> 1:19:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Sports Illustrated just got sold. Once the consumer believes that

1:19:06.479 --> 1:19:10.679
<v Speaker 1>he or she is not getting a fair presentation, then

1:19:11.479 --> 1:19:15.799
<v Speaker 1>most will leave and not buy or watch or whatever

1:19:15.840 --> 1:19:19.240
<v Speaker 1>it may be. The zealots will stay. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a far left media concern, that far left will watch you.

1:19:22.640 --> 1:19:26.080
<v Speaker 1>So Rachel Maddow is the best example of this. On

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<v Speaker 1>a hot day where the left thinks they've got a

1:19:29.040 --> 1:19:33.559
<v Speaker 1>new surround President Trump's neck, her ratings go up. But

1:19:33.680 --> 1:19:37.120
<v Speaker 1>on an ordinary day when that doesn't exist, she doesn't

1:19:37.160 --> 1:19:43.000
<v Speaker 1>do very well. So it's all her whole constituency is

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<v Speaker 1>based on can we get rid of Donald Trump? That's

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<v Speaker 1>not the recipe for success long term. And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>at Fox News Channel, I can say whatever they want

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<v Speaker 1>about Fox News Channel, but I was one for sixteen

1:19:56.840 --> 1:20:00.080
<v Speaker 1>consecutive years is because I was perceived to be. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I'm only number one for three years and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. There's no I mean, but let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you something. I have no plans to stay that long

1:20:06.040 --> 1:20:08.719
<v Speaker 1>to break your record. I'm just telling everybody now, yeah,

1:20:08.720 --> 1:20:12.400
<v Speaker 1>well I hope you do. Yeah, I really do. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna play golf. Go ahead. You base your

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<v Speaker 1>analysis on facts, yes, and that is the difference, not

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<v Speaker 1>a hatred, not emotion, not I wanted a socialist government.

1:20:26.360 --> 1:20:29.800
<v Speaker 1>You basically see the world the way you see it.

1:20:29.840 --> 1:20:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Everybody knows what that is. But then when you present thing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fact based. That's a key to success. Bill. Ninety

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<v Speaker 1>nine percent of the news media in this country went

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<v Speaker 1>in one direction. You know, there have been times in

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<v Speaker 1>my career and your career as well, both of us,

1:20:47.640 --> 1:20:52.439
<v Speaker 1>we come at something from an entirely different angle. When

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<v Speaker 1>I vetted Obama the last two years, we've been up

1:20:56.320 --> 1:20:59.920
<v Speaker 1>peeling this onion. And with the declassification last week, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a matter of if anymore America is going to

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<v Speaker 1>see the FISA applications. America is gonna see the three

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<v Speaker 1>O two's, the Gang of eight, the exculpatory evidence. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all coming. But here's my big problem, and I want

1:21:15.360 --> 1:21:19.559
<v Speaker 1>you to really dig into this now. If these people

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<v Speaker 1>on the left, in the media, democrats, if they cared about,

1:21:24.680 --> 1:21:29.280
<v Speaker 1>let's say, obstruction of justice. How did they all ignore

1:21:29.880 --> 1:21:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Hillary's behavior an underlying crime the Espionage Act, and then

1:21:35.400 --> 1:21:39.080
<v Speaker 1>when she deletes thirty three thousand subpoenat emails, bleached, bit

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<v Speaker 1>hammers and simcards removed. If they care about Russian interference,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you ignore the dirty dossier? Even the New

1:21:47.320 --> 1:21:51.360
<v Speaker 1>York Times is suggesting that Christopher Steele will put this

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<v Speaker 1>together paid by Hillary, that it was Russian disinformation, but

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<v Speaker 1>then it's used in a FISA warrant application to spy

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<v Speaker 1>on the opposition party candidate to influence an election, and

1:22:02.000 --> 1:22:05.960
<v Speaker 1>also spreading it out to media members so it would

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<v Speaker 1>impact the twenty sixteen election. How do you ignore? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you say I'm a believer when you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Justice Kavanaugh in high school? But there's no eye

1:22:17.479 --> 1:22:20.720
<v Speaker 1>believers when it comes to the Lieutenant governor of the

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<v Speaker 1>Commonwealth of Virginia, who is has credible allegations of rape

1:22:26.400 --> 1:22:29.599
<v Speaker 1>and violent sexual assault. Not you don't hear a peep

1:22:29.600 --> 1:22:32.840
<v Speaker 1>out of them. Where is some desire in here to

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<v Speaker 1>get to the truth rather than just being a total

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<v Speaker 1>hack for a Democratic party socialist agenda? Zealots do not

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<v Speaker 1>seek the truth? If you are a political zealot, and

1:22:50.040 --> 1:22:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you could be one on the right as well as

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<v Speaker 1>the left. You are not interested in what really happens,

1:22:57.520 --> 1:23:01.440
<v Speaker 1>or what's fair or what's good for the entire country.

1:23:01.560 --> 1:23:05.719
<v Speaker 1>The only thing you are interested in is imposing your

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<v Speaker 1>view of the world on everybody else. So that's the

1:23:10.000 --> 1:23:13.559
<v Speaker 1>answer to your question. If you're not a rational person,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not sitting down as examining evidence. No, you want socialism,

1:23:20.439 --> 1:23:23.800
<v Speaker 1>So anyone who doesn't, you're going to try to destroy them.

1:23:24.040 --> 1:23:28.040
<v Speaker 1>You don't care how because the end justifies the means,

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<v Speaker 1>and that, unfortunately has taken root in about twenty twenty

1:23:32.800 --> 1:23:37.600
<v Speaker 1>five percent of the American population. That's pretty scary, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day. In the reason, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>what do I do for a living? If somebody asked me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say, I'm a talk show host. Well, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>a journalist. No, I'm a talk show host. You're a

1:23:51.760 --> 1:23:54.920
<v Speaker 1>well maybe you're an opinion journalist. I said, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>part of being a talk show host. Bill. I can produce,

1:23:58.840 --> 1:24:02.920
<v Speaker 1>as you can, hundreds of hours of straight reporting whatever

1:24:02.920 --> 1:24:07.240
<v Speaker 1>it maybe a war, God forbid, or maybe a natural disaster,

1:24:07.640 --> 1:24:11.599
<v Speaker 1>and there's no opinion We've done investigative work the last

1:24:11.640 --> 1:24:14.840
<v Speaker 1>two years on the deep state or vetting Obama two examples.

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<v Speaker 1>We give opinion, but we're honest about the opinions and

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<v Speaker 1>why I am a conservative because conservatism works, i e.

1:24:24.439 --> 1:24:27.960
<v Speaker 1>The economy under Trump after tax cuts and ending burdens

1:24:27.960 --> 1:24:31.599
<v Speaker 1>and regulation. We also talk sports and culture and everything

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<v Speaker 1>in between. In other words, I view what I do

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<v Speaker 1>as the entire newspaper. They're supposed to be objective. They're not.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you think of anybody on cable today that you

1:24:44.400 --> 1:24:50.960
<v Speaker 1>would say, meaning a host in primetime that is objective.

1:24:53.439 --> 1:25:00.280
<v Speaker 1>I think Bridge Hume is pretty fair well, but and

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<v Speaker 1>I think a guy like that is who you want

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<v Speaker 1>to put up. He's a thinker, leans a little bit conservative,

1:25:08.760 --> 1:25:13.559
<v Speaker 1>but doesn't allow doesn't let that influences a reportage. But

1:25:13.640 --> 1:25:16.559
<v Speaker 1>there are very few of them because they take order sannity.

1:25:16.800 --> 1:25:18.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, guys like me and you. We're lucky in

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<v Speaker 1>the sense that we started this business and we didn't

1:25:22.160 --> 1:25:26.080
<v Speaker 1>get interference. I mean I never got interference view Riley Facker.

1:25:26.160 --> 1:25:28.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you got interference with sanity and calms

1:25:28.520 --> 1:25:30.880
<v Speaker 1>when you started, No, none at all. Okay, so we

1:25:30.920 --> 1:25:35.599
<v Speaker 1>didn't have corporate masters telling us what to do. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go back. If you're in a reporter for the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times and you are seen on the street

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<v Speaker 1>in your off hours wearing a mega hat, you're through

1:25:45.479 --> 1:25:48.320
<v Speaker 1>that done. By the way, the mega hat is now

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<v Speaker 1>the new trigger of the left in American's hilarious. I know,

1:25:52.439 --> 1:25:57.439
<v Speaker 1>but there wasn't that culture when we started the Fox. Okay,

1:25:57.439 --> 1:26:00.679
<v Speaker 1>But but you work for like I knew PE, you're Jennings.

1:26:00.840 --> 1:26:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I worked for Jennings, right, and I worked for rather okay,

1:26:04.240 --> 1:26:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and I knew in both organizations, CBS much more than

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<v Speaker 1>ABC UM. But they and once in a while they

1:26:12.120 --> 1:26:16.639
<v Speaker 1>crossed the line with me and they got pushedback. I didn't.

1:26:16.680 --> 1:26:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't brook it, but most of the reporters did,

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<v Speaker 1>most of the reporters working over there, if they got

1:26:24.600 --> 1:26:27.280
<v Speaker 1>told by management, this is how you skew the story.

1:26:27.320 --> 1:26:29.760
<v Speaker 1>They did it, and now all of them do it

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<v Speaker 1>on cable and that's what you're seeing. It's fascinating, though,

1:26:34.080 --> 1:26:38.679
<v Speaker 1>because I got to know Jennings and Brokaw and Tim Russer.

1:26:38.920 --> 1:26:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Tim Russer he moderated m a debate between me and

1:26:43.280 --> 1:26:47.400
<v Speaker 1>James Carvill, but more importantly, I would interview him. I

1:26:47.439 --> 1:26:49.320
<v Speaker 1>just happened to love his two books that he wrote,

1:26:49.840 --> 1:26:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Big Us. He was a fair guy. But those But

1:26:54.200 --> 1:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>but Bill Peter Jennings came in my radio studio highlighting

1:26:58.880 --> 1:27:01.479
<v Speaker 1>every page of the book that I had recently written.

1:27:02.840 --> 1:27:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Tim Russ would seek my opinion as a conservative to

1:27:07.640 --> 1:27:13.320
<v Speaker 1>understand it. Tom Brokaw, he was great until now he's

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<v Speaker 1>in a mode where he has to protect the MSNBC

1:27:16.080 --> 1:27:18.479
<v Speaker 1>for some reason. But I don't think he was a

1:27:18.600 --> 1:27:23.439
<v Speaker 1>rigid radical ideologue. Although I think they all slant and left. Well,

1:27:23.520 --> 1:27:28.080
<v Speaker 1>for Brokaw, it was a social thing, I have to say,

1:27:28.120 --> 1:27:33.240
<v Speaker 1>because I know them all. Rather was a committed liberal, right, Okay,

1:27:33.520 --> 1:27:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Sam Donaldson, same thing. Right. Brokaw is a social liberal.

1:27:38.120 --> 1:27:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Love the parties, love the salons. Jenny's didn't like any

1:27:41.760 --> 1:27:44.760
<v Speaker 1>of that. Jenny, you know, he went out and he

1:27:44.960 --> 1:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>schmoozed around. But he was real suspect of all of that,

1:27:50.560 --> 1:27:54.920
<v Speaker 1>and so he was the least ideological of all of them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's just we're never going. I don't

1:27:58.360 --> 1:28:02.320
<v Speaker 1>think there's a path back. No, there isn't, because corporate

1:28:02.320 --> 1:28:05.080
<v Speaker 1>America controls it. Now. It's a big money maker. Now

1:28:05.120 --> 1:28:10.280
<v Speaker 1>it's not a news uh calling. It's not like, Okay,

1:28:10.400 --> 1:28:12.880
<v Speaker 1>we're here for the people. We want to give the

1:28:13.000 --> 1:28:16.519
<v Speaker 1>people the truth. That's not what's happening. It's like, we

1:28:16.560 --> 1:28:18.639
<v Speaker 1>want to make as much money as we can make,

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<v Speaker 1>and along the way, I want to have friends that

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<v Speaker 1>will invite me to all the parties in the Hampton's,

1:28:25.439 --> 1:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Manhattan and Hollywood. So I'm going to be liberal. But

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<v Speaker 1>what they but what they're gonna do Bill, just from

1:28:31.680 --> 1:28:36.520
<v Speaker 1>a just like looking at it from a business model perspective,

1:28:37.040 --> 1:28:39.760
<v Speaker 1>is they're gonna kill the goose that laid the golden egg.

1:28:40.000 --> 1:28:42.559
<v Speaker 1>It's already dead. It's already dead, and it's already dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Well here's the thing though, I mean, in many ways,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we'll look at the golden age of cable

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<v Speaker 1>and even broadcast news. But I will tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>they The biggest shock for all of them is the

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<v Speaker 1>day that Donald Trump leaves office, which is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be no, no, it's over. They nobody will watch him.

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<v Speaker 1>If Joe Biden never gets elected president, cable ratings are

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<v Speaker 1>going to call fall fifty. I won't be on the air,

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<v Speaker 1>so it won't matter. I don't care. I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 1>never gonna see him. Has anybody seen him since May seventeenth,

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<v Speaker 1>he made as an asser for president. It's gone ten

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<v Speaker 1>days in a row. He must have been tired from

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<v Speaker 1>that one appearance in Philly. You know, look, he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to campaign. I've said that from the jump. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to see him in a diner. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do name recognition. And I'm Obama. You know, I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>return of Obama. Vote for me. That's all he's gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>Not gonna work bill, not in this day and age,

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<v Speaker 1>No way. The order appointing me special counsel authorized us

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<v Speaker 1>to investigate actions that could obstruct the investigation, and we

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<v Speaker 1>conducted that investigation, and we kept the Office of the

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<v Speaker 1>Acting Attorney General apprized of the progress of our work,

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<v Speaker 1>and as a fourth in the report. After that investigation,

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<v Speaker 1>if we had had confidence that the president clearly did

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<v Speaker 1>not commit a crime, we would have said so. We did, not, however,

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<v Speaker 1>make a determination as to whether the President did commit

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<v Speaker 1>a crime. The introduction to the Volume two of our

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<v Speaker 1>report explains that decision. It explains that, under longstanding Department policy,

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<v Speaker 1>as president cannot be charged with a federal crime while

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<v Speaker 1>he is in office that is unconstitutional. Even if the

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<v Speaker 1>charge is kept under seal and hidden from public view,

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<v Speaker 1>that too is prohibited. The Special Counsel's Office is part

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<v Speaker 1>of the Department of Justice, and by regulation it was

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<v Speaker 1>bound by that department policy. Charging the president with a

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<v Speaker 1>crime was therefore not an option we could consider. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna have so much more on this debacle

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<v Speaker 1>today and the news and information that you really need

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<v Speaker 1>to know about, and all the noise is not and

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<v Speaker 1>will not be what you think it is, and where

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<v Speaker 1>this is all really heady. That's tonight at nine on

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<v Speaker 1>Hannity on the Fox News Channel. I hope you join us.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a great lineup tonight as well as usual,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will be joined tonight, yes, the great one,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Levin, Jay Sekulo, the President's Attorney, Alan Dershowitz, Gregan

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah and John Solomon, Jim Jordan, and Mike Huckabee. That's

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<v Speaker 1>all ninety Eastern tonight, Hannity, Fox. See you then, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for being with us. Back here tomorrow