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Speaker 1: had communicated to bar that that was not a factor,

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Speaker 1: meaning the laws or the policies that would govern whether

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Speaker 1: a sitting president and be indicted or not. This is

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Speaker 1: a travesty of justice. This is the witch hunt on steroids.

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Speaker 1: But it's none of it matters. It's all noise. And

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Speaker 1: if the Democrats go down the impeachment route, I say

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Speaker 1: more power to them, because they will garantee the election

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Speaker 1: re election of Donald Trump. That will be an act

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Speaker 1: of political suicide the likes of which we've never seen

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Speaker 1: in our life. The Special Council's Office is part of

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Speaker 1: the Department of Justice, and by regulation it was bound

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Speaker 1: by that department policy. Charging the president with a crime

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Speaker 1: was therefore not an option we could consider. And beyond

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Speaker 1: department policy, were regarded by principles of fairness. It would

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Speaker 1: be unfair to potentially it would be unfair to potentially

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Speaker 1: accuse somebody of a crime when there can be no

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Speaker 1: court resolution of the actual charge. So that was Justice

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Speaker 1: Department policy. Those were the principles under which we operated,

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Speaker 1: and from them we concluded that we would would not

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Speaker 1: reach a determination one way or the other about whether

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Speaker 1: the president committed a crime. That is the offices. That

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Speaker 1: is the officer's final position, and we will not comment

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Speaker 1: on any other conclusions or hypotheticals about the president. All right,

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Speaker 1: our two Sean Hannity Show, glad you are with us.

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Speaker 1: Right down our toll free telephone number. It's eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and nine four one, Sean. If you want to be

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Speaker 1: a part of the program, understand what's happening here. Understand

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Speaker 1: that this is exactly the opposite of how justice in

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Speaker 1: America works. And all this was was the Special Council

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Speaker 1: literally just giving just dropping little nuggets, innuendo hits. When

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Speaker 1: under our system of justice in America, if you don't

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Speaker 1: have the evidence, you don't say we can't convict, you

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Speaker 1: just don't charge. It's really that simple. And what Mueller

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Speaker 1: did here is nothing but pure politics. If they had

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Speaker 1: the evidence at all in any way, shape, matter, or

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Speaker 1: form to prove any crime, be a collusion, conspiracy, whatever,

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Speaker 1: so on and so forth, they would have brought those

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Speaker 1: what has happened here is it is just gone in

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Speaker 1: the opposite direction for them. So it is, you know,

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Speaker 1: how do you defend against a never ending cloud of

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Speaker 1: innuendo over your head? And one of the long term

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Speaker 1: ramifications about us, now, look, the effort to unseat a

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Speaker 1: duly elected president continues, it's never gonna stop. You know,

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Speaker 1: if Donald Trump cured cancer, if Donald Trump gave every

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Speaker 1: American ten million dollars and he adopted even the Green

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Speaker 1: New Deal, in every left wing policy that exists, they'd

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Speaker 1: still hate him. And nor does it in any way

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Speaker 1: deflect from all that we now know is coming with

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Speaker 1: the declassification. That means the FISA warrant applications will come out.

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Speaker 1: That means the three O two's will come out. That

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Speaker 1: means the exculpatory evidence that was hidden will come out.

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Speaker 1: That means that all the closed or testament, it's all

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Speaker 1: coming out. There's a second act to this, and it

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Speaker 1: is going to be devastating to all of these deep

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Speaker 1: state collaborators. Those you know how Robert Muller had time

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Speaker 1: to look into let's see loan applications, taxes going back

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Speaker 1: to the eighties, Farah violations, taxi medallions, but ignored what

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Speaker 1: The New York Times was now suggesting was a Hillary

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Speaker 1: Clinton bought and paid for, put together by a foreign agent,

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Speaker 1: Russian disinformation that was used for the very specific reason

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Speaker 1: of creating interference and even outcome of the twenty sixteen election.

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Speaker 1: In favor of Hillary. To ignore it all is unconscionable. Now,

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Speaker 1: all of that is coming into the fray. As I said,

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Speaker 1: you know, go back to when Lindsay Graham interviewed the

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Speaker 1: Attorney General Barr. Barr said there was no consideration given

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Speaker 1: when he made the decision along with the Deputy Attorney

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Speaker 1: General Rod Rosenstein, with input from the Office of Legal Counsel.

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Speaker 1: That this whole Justice Department policy issue of whether you

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Speaker 1: And what Robert Mueller said is dead wrong. If Robert

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Speaker 1: Muller wanted to come out and say this is what

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Speaker 1: we found, he wouldn't have punted it to the Department

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Speaker 1: of Justice. Anyway. We got full analysis, a lot of

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Speaker 1: different angles to get to today. Andy McCarthy, the Great Attorney.

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Speaker 1: He is formerly of the Southern District of New York

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Speaker 1: and of course number one best selling author, legal analyst,

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Speaker 1: Greg Jarrett the Russia Hoax, and David Shown criminal and

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Speaker 1: Civil Liberties defense attorney. How are you all? Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the program. Greg, Why don't we start with you today

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Speaker 1: and your thoughts overall as we begin our analysis of this, well,

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Speaker 1: once again, as he did. In his report, the Special

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Speaker 1: Counsel Robert Mueller seems to have reversed the burden of

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Speaker 1: proof and inverted the presumption of innocence. You know, once

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Speaker 1: again he is saying, we cannot prove the president did

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Speaker 1: not commit a crime. Think about what that really means.

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Speaker 1: It's a double negative. Mueller was contending he can't prove

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Speaker 1: something that didn't happen. You know what if that's the

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Speaker 1: standard for all investigations. Let's say you deposited your paycheck

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Speaker 1: at a bank on Monday, the same day it's robbed,

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Speaker 1: and then the prosecutor makes a public announcement he can't

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Speaker 1: prove you didn't rob the bank, So you're neither criminally

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Speaker 1: accused nor exonerated. The burden of proof has been shifted

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Speaker 1: to you to disprove the negative. That's not the way

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Speaker 1: our system of justice operates. But Mueller maligned Trump with

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Speaker 1: a taintive criminality and depriving him of the presumption of innocence.

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Speaker 1: And he did it once again today. You're take David

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Speaker 1: Chelm several points real quickly. Why did Muller never say

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Speaker 1: this before, that the sitting president couldn't be indicted? This

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Speaker 1: president's lawyers. How outrageous this was. Number Two, if there

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Speaker 1: never could be a criminal prosecution of the president, and

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Speaker 1: Muller understood that, why was six hundred point one of

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Speaker 1: the regulations triggered that requires a criminal finding that there's

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Speaker 1: a criminal prosecution or investigation of a personal matter that

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Speaker 1: justice had a conflict with Under six hundred point two.

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Speaker 1: There were alternatives to this, including just an initial investigation.

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Speaker 1: As Greg said, innuendo is tougher than a specific charge

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Speaker 1: to defend against. You can't defend against it, and they

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Speaker 1: make it worse by saying if there were no crime

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Speaker 1: than they would have made that clear. Last thing is,

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Speaker 1: you can bet your bottom dollar that if they had

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Speaker 1: evidence of a crime here with people like Andrew Weissman,

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Speaker 1: Robert Muller on this committee in Special Counsel's Office, they

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Speaker 1: would have laid that out. They would have said what

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Speaker 1: the crimes were. They would have said, their evidence, but

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Speaker 1: we can't charge them because he's a sitting president. Well,

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Speaker 1: and your take, Andy McCarthy, I mean, if you decided

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Speaker 1: when you work for the Southern District of New York

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Speaker 1: not to indite somebody, you decided not to indite them.

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Speaker 1: Do you go out there and say, well, do you

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Speaker 1: leave a cloud of suspicion? Well, we think we might

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Speaker 1: have been there, but we weren't there. And how do

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Speaker 1: you reconcile all the varying statements. I mean, if Rod Rosenstein,

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Speaker 1: office illegal Counsel, the Attorney General in made what was

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Speaker 1: a pretty clear, quick decision that had no basis or

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Speaker 1: even considering this question of Justice Department policy about indicting

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Speaker 1: a president of the United States while in office, he

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Speaker 1: was clear that was not a consideration. Well, Sean, I

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Speaker 1: think now we have to really look at the timeline

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Speaker 1: of that, because what happened here it looks to me

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Speaker 1: like is Muller met with Barr on March fifth. That's

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Speaker 1: when they say they had their first conversation. According to

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Speaker 1: Barr's testimony, and as I understand it, it it was at

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Speaker 1: that meeting that Muller repeatedly told Barr I think Barr

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Speaker 1: the OLC guidance was not the reason why Muller had

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Speaker 1: decided not to make a decision about obstruct And then

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Speaker 1: Barr asked him, well, what is your reasoning and Mueller said,

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Speaker 1: we're still formulating that. And then by two and a

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Speaker 1: half weeks later, on March twenty second, when Mueller delivers

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Speaker 1: of the obstruction part of the report that really lays

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Speaker 1: it at the feet of the OLC guidance. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that's probably what happened. That's probably why the

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Speaker 1: Attorney General said what he said. And you know, it

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Speaker 1: seems to me that Mueller. The one thing that Mueller

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Speaker 1: decided was he wasn't going to decide. He didn't want

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Speaker 1: couldn't come up with a coherent reason for not making

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Speaker 1: the only decision that he was really arguably needed to make.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think there should be a special counsel at all.

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Speaker 1: And then at the last minute he obviously decided, well,

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Speaker 1: we'll lay it at the feet of the OLC guidance. Well,

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Speaker 1: but Muller, everybody knew about Justice Department policy anyway, correct, Well,

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Speaker 1: they did, Sean. But you know, look, there's a big difference.

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Speaker 1: And this is one of the things that really bothers

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Speaker 1: me about Muller. There is a big difference between the

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Speaker 1: the Justice Department that has to enforce Justice Department policy.

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Speaker 1: It was none of Mueller's concern that there's OLC guidance

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Speaker 1: that says you can't indict a sitting president. The only

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Speaker 1: thing Mueller needed to do, as the prosecutor who was

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Speaker 1: handling the case was tell the Justice Department, yes, there's

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Speaker 1: enough evidence to charge, or no, there's not enough evidence

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Speaker 1: to charge. And if he thought there was enough evidence

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Speaker 1: to charge, then you tell the Justice Department that. And

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Speaker 1: if the Attorney General at that point wants to invoke

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Speaker 1: the policy that says a sitting president can't be indicted,

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Speaker 1: then the Attorney General can invoke it. But there was

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Speaker 1: no reason for the prosecutors working on the case to

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Speaker 1: worry about that. And he's one hundred percent right, And

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Speaker 1: that decision, by the way by the Attorney General would

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Speaker 1: be made, should have been made on the front end.

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Speaker 1: And that's the first point he made that the Special

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Speaker 1: Council never should have been appointed the Attorney General, the

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Speaker 1: assistant Attorney General and this point, at this point, Rosenstein

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Speaker 1: well knew OLC policy and knew that there wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: a criminal prosecution of the president under that policy. What

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Speaker 1: Mueller told us today, what we knew he has cost

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Speaker 1: to taxpayers millions of dollars and paralyze the presidency for

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Speaker 1: two years for nothing. Well, John, could I say, what

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Speaker 1: could do one other thing? Something that's got to be

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Speaker 1: decided now that I think Barr was trying to sidestep.

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Speaker 1: There's clearly a difference between Barr and Muller about what

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Speaker 1: the legal requirements are for obstruction, and I think Barr

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Speaker 1: tries to sidestep that by saying, even if we apply

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Speaker 1: Mueller's looser standard on the facts of the case here,

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Speaker 1: the government would not be able to prove obstruction beyond

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Speaker 1: a reasonable dab. Now, I think with Mueller's report out there,

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Speaker 1: and with Mueller saying I can't say that this isn't

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Speaker 1: a crime, it's really incumbent on the Justice Department and

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Speaker 1: the Office of Legal Counsel at this point to step

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Speaker 1: in and tell us what is the Justice Department's position

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Speaker 1: on what obstruction law says. Is it Muller's position or

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Speaker 1: is it some other position. You know. One of the

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Speaker 1: interesting things, Greg Jarrett, is, you know Mueller takes this

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Speaker 1: position today, but if we look at the whole case.

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Speaker 1: Nobody was charged. He didn't even return one charge because

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Speaker 1: there was no evidence as it relates to any of

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Speaker 1: these issues. And you know, and then we get to

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Speaker 1: the whole issue, Well, what does the law mandate? I mean,

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Speaker 1: then we get to the double standard issue, because okay,

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Speaker 1: if there was no underlying crime, you never believed there

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Speaker 1: was an underlying crime. You believed in your innocence. You

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Speaker 1: proclaimed your innocence, as the president did every single day.

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Speaker 1: And while you know, Don mcgane could say that he

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Speaker 1: might have suggested firing Muller, well somebody else would have

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Speaker 1: replaced Mueller because of a conflict of interest that would

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Speaker 1: be within the president's power is under article too. But

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Speaker 1: the president never fired Mueller, never fired Rod Rosenstein, let

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Speaker 1: the investigation go forward. He encouraged everybody in the White

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Speaker 1: House publicly and privately to testify. They all did one

644
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Speaker 1: point five million documents handed over in the process of

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Speaker 1: all this. And saying that this is a witch hunt,

646
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Speaker 1: hardly is obstruction. Where is the obstruction, Well, there is none.

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Speaker 1: First of all, there are two US Supreme Court decisions

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Speaker 1: that say general statutes don't apply to a president who's

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Speaker 1: exercising his constitutional authority unless those statutes say so. If

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Speaker 1: you look at all of the obstruction statutes, they do

651
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Speaker 1: not expressly apply as president. So is a constitutional matter

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Speaker 1: in things like firing James Comey and the words allegedly

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Speaker 1: uttered about Michael Flynn, those as a constitutional proposition to

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Speaker 1: not qualify under obstruction of statute. But even if you

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Speaker 1: accept some sort of expansive, elastic interpretation of obstruction as

656
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Speaker 1: it applies to the president, for every allegedly incriminating finding

657
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Speaker 1: in Mueller's report, there is a corresponding exculpatory explanation. So

658
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Speaker 1: even there, there's no corrupt intent or improper purpose as

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Speaker 1: obstruction requires. So on all fours obstruction has no application

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Speaker 1: to the president. What concerns me here is that Mueller's

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Speaker 1: peddling two different stories. He you know, he says to

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Speaker 1: the public that the OLC opinion that he can't charge

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Speaker 1: a sitting president prevented him from doing his job, and yet,

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Speaker 1: according to Bill Barr's testimony and his statement to the media,

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Speaker 1: he was specifically told by Mueller on three occasions that

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Speaker 1: the OLC opinion has nothing to do with his decision.

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Speaker 1: So somebody, you know, somebody's not telling the truth here,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know who it is, but

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this much. Mueller's story doesn't really stand up,

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Speaker 1: and I want to pick up on that point when

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Speaker 1: we get back Greg Jarrett, Andy McCarthy, David Shone with

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Speaker 1: US eight hundred and nine f one. Shawn told free

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Speaker 1: telephone number. We'll get Bill O'Reilly's take at the top

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Speaker 1: of the next hour. Conducted an independent criminal investigation and

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Speaker 1: reported the results to the Attorney General as required by

676
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Speaker 1: Department regulations. Now, I hope and expect this to be

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Speaker 1: the only time that I will speak to you in

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Speaker 1: this matter. I am making that decision myself. No one

679
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: has told me whether I can or should testify or

680
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: speak further about this matter. There has been discussion about

681
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: an appearance before Congress. Any testimony from this office would

682
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: not go beyond our report. It pains our findings and

683
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Speaker 1: analysis and the reasons for the decisions we made. We

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Speaker 1: chose those words carefully, and the work speaks for itself,

685
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Speaker 1: and the report is my testimony. I would not provide

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Speaker 1: information beyond that which is already public in any appearance

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Speaker 1: before Congress. Yeah, but I'd love to get answers to questions,

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Speaker 1: when did he know there was no collusion. I'd like

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Speaker 1: to know, Well, if you had time for taxi medallions,

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Speaker 1: loan applications, taxes, and Pharaoh violations, why didn't you have

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Speaker 1: time for a foreign put together phony Russian dossier that

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Speaker 1: was used as the basis of a Faizo warrant before

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Speaker 1: the election and after the election, paid for by the

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Speaker 1: opposition party? Was that not? Is the New York Times

695
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Speaker 1: right in their description that it was very likely Russian disinformation.

696
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Speaker 1: Maybe that's a little bit more important than taxi medallions

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Speaker 1: and a little bit more important than Pharao violations. I

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Speaker 1: don't think Mueller wanted to answer any of these questions.

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Speaker 1: So Democrats are doing what they do, which is, you know,

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Speaker 1: of course, as Nadler out there, of course peach and

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Speaker 1: peachment is on the table. Muller found substantial evidence of

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Speaker 1: obstruction of justice. No, he did not point out to

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Speaker 1: me where that evidence is. Mueller could not charge Trump

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Speaker 1: because of Justice Department rules. That's not even what he's saying.

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Speaker 1: And the Attorney General, which again people like Nadler never wanted.

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Speaker 1: The Star report with eleven specific charges that Congress should

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Speaker 1: look into. With Bill Clinton, he didn't want that public

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Speaker 1: and the former law was changed into the current law,

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Speaker 1: which was you know, we used to have, you know,

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Speaker 1: very different way of handling all of this, and we've

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Speaker 1: gone over in detail. So okay, what does this all mean? Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we continue with Andy McCarthy, David Shoon and Greg Jarrett,

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Speaker 1: where it looks to me like Muller just made a

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Speaker 1: quick political statement with no substance in fact, when in fact,

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Speaker 1: the current law as it is written, the call was

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Speaker 1: to be made by the Attorney General if he decided

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Speaker 1: not to make one. Greg Jarrett absolutely, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure I understand the whole point of Muller's

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Speaker 1: statement today that lasted about ten minutes. Not going to

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Speaker 1: take any questions, I'm not going to testify, which by

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Speaker 1: the way, he has no choice of doing if he

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Speaker 1: receives his subpoena. He's not above the law. But so

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Speaker 1: you know, this strikes me as yet another effort by

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Speaker 1: Muller to smear the president with a taint of criminality,

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Speaker 1: when in fact, to his report, if you really dig

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Speaker 1: through it, as I have three times, demonstrate that there's

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Speaker 1: no obstruction of justice. And let me make one other point,

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Speaker 1: about the Office of Legal Counsel opinion. Go back and

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Speaker 1: look at bars testimony before the Senate. He said that

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Speaker 1: told him that there might be a case in which

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Speaker 1: president can be charged while sitting in office, and that

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Speaker 1: the OLC opinion can be quote unquote abandoned. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: this whole thing strikes me as a bit of a

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Speaker 1: charade by Mueller again to smear Trump and Andy McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: Your take on that part, well, Sean, I thought it

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Speaker 1: was pretty presumptuous of him to say that, you know,

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Speaker 1: my testimony is the report, so I wouldn't have anything

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Speaker 1: else to say. Can you mention a lawyer telling the

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Speaker 1: Court of Appeals when they ask you at a legal

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Speaker 1: argument some questions about the position you've taken in your

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Speaker 1: brief and you're are you going to tell them? Sorry,

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Speaker 1: your honor, I've already said everything I had to say

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Speaker 1: in the brief, and you know, how dare you ask

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Speaker 1: me any more questions? Of course, if he gets subpoened,

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Speaker 1: he's going to have to come in and he's going

746
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Speaker 1: to have to answer questions, and he's going to have

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Speaker 1: to answer questions about his investigative decisions, which include I

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Speaker 1: think the Act that he probably knew that there was

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Speaker 1: no collusion case as early as I'd say probably September

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, when they didn't go back to the FISA

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Speaker 1: court and ask for another warrant on Carter page. So

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Speaker 1: there's a pretty important question here about especially if they're

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Speaker 1: going to try to push a lot of obstructive obstructive

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Speaker 1: conduct that happened after that point, according to Muller's own report,

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Speaker 1: Why wasn't the president and why wasn't the country told

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Speaker 1: that there was no collusion case against the president. I

757
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Speaker 1: think I think things would have gone a lot differently

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Speaker 1: if that had happened. Yeah, and David, what were you

759
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Speaker 1: going to say? Two things? I think, First of all,

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Speaker 1: Mueller owed if this is his position, He owed that

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Speaker 1: to the American public almost two years ago when the

762
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Speaker 1: president's lawyers were saying it that about the OLC policy.

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Speaker 1: But think about this other angle that what Mueller said today.

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Speaker 1: He said, first of all, that Barr made more of

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Speaker 1: the report public than he had to, and that he

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Speaker 1: Mueller appreciated that, and that he Mueller would not go

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Speaker 1: beyond any testimony, give any testimony beyond what's been made

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Speaker 1: public in the report. Now, when mister Barr took that position,

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Speaker 1: Nadler and Schiff called them essentially a traitor. He's going

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Speaker 1: to be thrown out of office. Etat. Let's see what

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Speaker 1: they say about mister Muller taking that same position, because

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Speaker 1: he's been their hero for quite a while. So basically,

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Speaker 1: we're dealing with politics, not the law, Greg That is

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Speaker 1: the way I'm hearing this. Oh absolutely. And you know, again,

775
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Speaker 1: if you read the Special Counsel report, it's four hundred

776
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Speaker 1: and forty eight pages of politics and not so much

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Speaker 1: the law. And it's almost as if you can tell

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Speaker 1: that that Muller and his team of partisans knew that

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Speaker 1: there was no legal basis for an obstruction case against

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Speaker 1: the president, and so they sort of twisted the facts

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Speaker 1: and tried to contort the law to create the suggestion

782
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Speaker 1: to imply that it might be possible. But but you know,

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Speaker 1: trust me, if if they had evidence of a case

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Speaker 1: against the president, Muller would have said so explicitly, and

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Speaker 1: he would have moved to as he told Bar abandoned

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Speaker 1: the Office of Legal Counsel opinion that you can't charge

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Speaker 1: a sitting precedent. That's an advisory opinion. It is not binding.

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Speaker 1: It is not mandatory, you know it is. This is

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Speaker 1: our opinion, But according to Muller, he is free to

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Speaker 1: abandon it in a case where there's solid evidence. Well,

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Speaker 1: it seems to me that any investigation if this is

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Speaker 1: the practice, and Andy, I mean, you've run some very

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Speaker 1: high profile cases, the blind Shake among them in the

794
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Speaker 1: First World Trade Center issues. If that's the case, then

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Speaker 1: basically prosecutors can leave a cloud hanging over anybody any time,

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Speaker 1: even though there is not evidence that rises to the

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Speaker 1: level of an indictment. And that is a troublesome I

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Speaker 1: think precedent for the country either you've got it or

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Speaker 1: you don't. And we know that there's no hidden indictment,

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Speaker 1: and we know that the Attorney General's decision did not

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Speaker 1: even factor into any consideration Justice Department policy. But based

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Speaker 1: on the facts is presented in the report, it did

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Speaker 1: not rise to any level of any crime. Yeah. Well, Sean,

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Speaker 1: That's why I think you really have to now get

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Speaker 1: straightened out what the Justice Department's position is on obstruction,

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Speaker 1: because I don't think Muller's position on the legal elements

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Speaker 1: of obstruction is the same as the Attorney generals And

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Speaker 1: I think that has to be straightened out. But as

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Speaker 1: to your other point, you know, look, it's the rule

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Speaker 1: of the road in the Justice Department that the government

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Speaker 1: speaks in court. You speak when you are ready to

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Speaker 1: formally charge someone, because it's at that point in our

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00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: system that an accused is given all of the rights

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Speaker 1: that are guaranteed under the Constitution to confront a government's charge.

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Speaker 1: So at that point it's a fair fight. What prosecutors

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Speaker 1: are not supposed to do is collect information for the

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Speaker 1: sake of collecting it and then publicize it in a

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Speaker 1: way that taints and convict someone in the court of

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Speaker 1: a public opinion. That's that's simply not supposed to happen.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I would point out that Rod Rosenstein,

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Speaker 1: who ran this investigation in the sense of supervising it

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Speaker 1: for a very long time, fired Jim Comey as the

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Speaker 1: FBI director for speaking about the evidence in the Hillary

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Speaker 1: Clinton case because Missus Clinton hadn't been charged. That was

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Speaker 1: the whole rationale for removing comy. So, you know, to

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Speaker 1: take that position and then to see this happen here

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Speaker 1: is really it's difficult to square. All right, quick break

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Speaker 1: more with Andy McCarthy, Greg Jarrett and David Shone on

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Speaker 1: the other side, and Bill O'Reilly at the top of

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Speaker 1: the hours. All right, as we continue with David shown,

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Speaker 1: Greg Jarrett, Andy McCarthy, let's go back to Barr's testimony

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Speaker 1: and an exchange that he had with Lindsey Graham, because

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Speaker 1: from this day forward, once the Attorney General Deputy Attorney General,

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Speaker 1: once they made their decision after the Mueller report came in,

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Speaker 1: it was made quickly that they were not moving forward

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Speaker 1: with any prosecution in any way. Whether with all the

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Speaker 1: noise that we'll hear from Congress in the media, mob

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Speaker 1: Mueller is still a dead issue, but all of these

839
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Speaker 1: other issues are very much alive, and we know the

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Speaker 1: Inspector General awaits Hubert Awaits, We now have Durham investigating

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Speaker 1: on his side, and we have the Attorney General promising

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Speaker 1: full investigations into all of this. Do you share my

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00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: concerns about the FISA warrant process. Yes? Do you share

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Speaker 1: my concerns about the counter intelligence investigation, how it was

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Speaker 1: opened and why it was opened? Yes? Do you share

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Speaker 1: my concerns at the professional lack of professionalism in the

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Speaker 1: Clinton email investigations, something we should all look at. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Do you expect to change your mind about the bottom

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Speaker 1: line conclusions of the Muller report. No. Do you know

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Speaker 1: Bob Mueller? Yes? Do you trust him? Yes? How long

851
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: have you known him? Thirty years roughly. Do you think

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Speaker 1: he had time he needed yes? You think he had

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Speaker 1: the money he needed? Yes? You think he had the

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Speaker 1: resources he needed? Yes. Do you think he did a

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Speaker 1: thorough job. Yes, and I think he feels he did

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Speaker 1: a thorough job and had adequate evidence to make the calls.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the president's campaign in twenty sixteen was

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Speaker 1: thoroughly looked at in terms of whether or not they

859
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Speaker 1: colluded with the Russians? Yes, and the answer is no

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Speaker 1: according to Bob Muller, that's right. He couldn't decide about obstruction.

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Speaker 1: You did, Is that correct? That's right? You feel good

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Speaker 1: about your decision? Absolutely so andy to me. I hear

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Speaker 1: that the Attorney general, I mean, they'd love to smear him,

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Speaker 1: But the bottom line is he had the final say

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Speaker 1: on this. It's still over. Well, it's over as far

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Speaker 1: as a prosecution matter is concerned. You know the problem here, Sean,

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Speaker 1: is that what Mueller essentially said today was and this

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Speaker 1: is exactly the political signaling that I think my fellow

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Speaker 1: panelists are pointing to what Muller said was if I

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Speaker 1: could have said there was no obstruction, I would have.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say that. I didn't say there was obstruction.

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Speaker 1: But that's because there's Office of Legal Counsel guidance that

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Speaker 1: prevented me from saying that. And by the way, in

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Speaker 1: this system, it's for Congress, not federal prosecutors, to discipline

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Speaker 1: a president who has been accused of committing misconduct. So

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Speaker 1: it seems to me that what he has basically done

877
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Speaker 1: for the Democrats is to signal to them, Hey, look, guys,

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Speaker 1: you know I could have found felonies here, and the

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00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: only thing that stopped me was the Office of Legal

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Speaker 1: Counsel guidance. And you guys don't even need felonies. So

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00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: here you go, and the constitution says it's on you

882
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: to take or the president you don't have at it.

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Speaker 1: And you know, it just seems to me that that

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Speaker 1: is the that's the argument that got made today, which

885
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Speaker 1: is why as far as people who are pushing for

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00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: impeachment or concerned, I think they got you know, they

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Speaker 1: got a turbo charge today. Yeah. Well, again, that's a

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Speaker 1: political process, and that's very different Greg We have spoken

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Speaker 1: at length with the declassification last week, and now the

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Speaker 1: Attorney General having access to everything, I would assume the

891
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: big five buckets we always talk about will become public.

892
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Speaker 1: And when that happens, as I've been saying, well, the

893
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Speaker 1: curtain is now rising in the second act of this

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00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: entire saga, and it is going to be brutal in

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Speaker 1: terms of what people are going to learn. That was

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Speaker 1: done to in the twenty sixteen election, What was done

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00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: to save a failed candidate that should have been indicted,

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Speaker 1: What was done with real Russian this information paid for

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Speaker 1: and leaked to the media to impact the twenty sixteen elections,

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Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. I think the Russian

901
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: hoax is about to unravel, and we will, I think,

902
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Speaker 1: learn the details and it'll come to us not only

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Speaker 1: through these declassifications that you refer to, but the Inspector

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Speaker 1: General's report as well. I mean, I think there is

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Speaker 1: a lot of evidence of corrupt acts, improper acts by

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Speaker 1: officials at the FBI and to some extent, the Department

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Speaker 1: of Justice that they were putting their thumb on the

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Speaker 1: scales in a presidential election. So much discussion about Russian

909
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Speaker 1: interference in the election. How about FBI and Department of

910
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Speaker 1: Justice interference in the election by using opposition research paid

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Speaker 1: for by Hillary Clinton and Russian disinformation in order to

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Speaker 1: damage a presidential candidate, and thereafter, upon his election, to

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Speaker 1: try to frame him for something he didn't do. And

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Speaker 1: I think Americans will be surprised by this, and I

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Speaker 1: think they'll probably be some criminal referrals and evidence will likely,

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Speaker 1: I think, be presented to a grand jury if William

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Speaker 1: barges in that direction. All right, I want to thank

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Speaker 1: you all for the time today, Greg Jarrett, David Shone,

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Speaker 1: Andy McCarthy, three of the smartest attorneys I know, well

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Speaker 1: of a lot more in Hannity tonight. Thank you all

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Speaker 1: for joining us. We did, not, however, make a determination

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Speaker 1: as to whether the president did commit a crime. The

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Speaker 1: introduction to the Volume two of our report explains that decision.

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Speaker 1: It explains that, under longstanding Department policy, as president cannot

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Speaker 1: be charged with a federal crime while he is in office.

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Speaker 1: That is unconstitutional. Even if the charge is kept under

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Speaker 1: sealed and hidden from public view, that too is prohibited.

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Speaker 1: The Special Council Office, as part of the Department of Justice,

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Speaker 1: and by regulation, it was bound by that Department policy

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Speaker 1: charging the president with a crime was therefore not an

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Speaker 1: option we could consider. Special Counsel Mola today repeated three

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Speaker 1: central points which are critical for the American people. One,

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Speaker 1: the Special Counsel did not exonerate the President of the

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Speaker 1: United States of obstruction of justice. Two, obstruction of justice,

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Speaker 1: of which Special Counsel Mola found substantial evidence, is a

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Speaker 1: serious crime that strikes at the core of our justice system. Three,

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Speaker 1: the Constitution points to Congress to take action to hold

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Speaker 1: the president accountable where his misconduct. Unfortunately, Special Counsel Moulla

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Speaker 1: was unable to pursue criminal charges against the President because

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Speaker 1: Department of Justice policy prevents a sitting president from being prosecuted.

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Speaker 1: That policy, in my opinion, is wrong, but it prevented

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Speaker 1: the Special Counsel from pursuing justice to the fullest extent possible. Therefore,

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Speaker 1: as Mueller again highlighted this morning, it falls to Congress

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Speaker 1: to respond to the crimes, lies, and other wrongdoing of

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Speaker 1: President Trump. We will do so. Make no mistake. No one,

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Speaker 1: not even the President of the United States, is above

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Speaker 1: the law. Okay, so what's the evidence, Because we've all

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Speaker 1: read the Mueller report. He says that is his testimony.

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Speaker 1: We know that we know that the Attorney General that

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Speaker 1: would be Barr, and we know the Deputy Attorney General

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Speaker 1: that would be Rod Rosenstein, and the Office Illegal Counsel

952
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Speaker 1: all said there's nothing here that rises to the level

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Speaker 1: of obstruction, and Bill Barr could not be any more

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Speaker 1: clear that it's over. You know, Barr's testimony before the

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Speaker 1: statement was well. Mueller stated three times to us in

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Speaker 1: a meeting in response to our questioning that he emphatically

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Speaker 1: was not saying that but for the Office of Legal

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Speaker 1: Council opinion, he would have found obstruction. So not saying

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Speaker 1: any of these things. But in the end that decision

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Speaker 1: was given. Now that we you know, we have a

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Speaker 1: new special Council law because people like Jerry Nadler didn't

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Speaker 1: like the old law that was used under Clinton that

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Speaker 1: had eleven specific felonies listed by Ken Starr And in fact,

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Speaker 1: you can't infer it is now the decision of the

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Speaker 1: Attorney General of the United States, but it was made

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Speaker 1: along with the Deputy Attorney General, with the input of

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Speaker 1: the Office of Legal Counsel, and Barr said there were

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Speaker 1: several people in that meeting that confirm all this, joining

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Speaker 1: us now with all things. O'Reilly bill, O'Reilly dot com

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Speaker 1: is with us? How are you, sir? Busy? Just like you?

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Speaker 1: We're always busy? Yeah, I am alis so you. We're

972
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Speaker 1: too busy irish guys, which is good because we weren't busy,

973
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Speaker 1: we'd be getting into trouble, which we don't want to do.

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Speaker 1: I have a few observations. I want to run by

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Speaker 1: you and see if you agree. Okay, let's do one

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Speaker 1: at a time, That's what I'll answer. Yeah, I'll do

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Speaker 1: one at a time, like the lightning round. Okay, O'Riley

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Speaker 1: lightning round. Upon his appearance today, in body language and inflection,

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Speaker 1: tone of voice, I think Muller despises Donald Trump, Okay,

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Speaker 1: but he likes apparently Attorney General Barr respects him, Bob,

981
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: but don't know like would be the right word. Respects

982
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: him all right. But he took no cheap shots and

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Speaker 1: made no snide remarks, and in the end basically said

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Speaker 1: he didn't have a problem with anything Bars said or done. Correct. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So he loathes Trump, he likes Bar or respects Bar.

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Speaker 1: So that's almost incompatible because Bar basically looked at his

987
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Speaker 1: report and deep brief Muller, as you just pointed out

988
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: in person, and came to the conclusion that after two years,

989
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: Mueller had no evidence that would rise to an indictment. Ever,

990
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: not during a president's term or after he leaves office. Correct, correct,

991
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: so far, you're on your game, mister O'Riley, keep going.

992
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: So then why are we going through this exercise? That's

993
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: the next question the American people, those with open minds,

994
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: Why why are we doing this? Why is a special

995
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: counsel implying that maybe there was a crime, Because that's

996
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: not what a prosecutor does or an investigator. Basically, they

997
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: come to a conclusion. And if they don't have enough evidence,

998
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Speaker 1: that in itself is a conclusion in our system of justice.

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Speaker 1: If you don't have enough to charge, the person is

1000
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Speaker 1: completely not guilty. That is the most important statement that

1001
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 1: you have now made. And that is this the way

1002
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 1: American justice works if you don't have the evidence. And

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Speaker 1: remember he said, and Barr said, when he and Rosenstein

1004
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Speaker 1: and the Office of the Legal Counsel made their decision,

1005
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Speaker 1: Justice Department policy about whether you can or cannot indict

1006
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Speaker 1: a sitting president was never factored into their decision. Doesn't matter,

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Speaker 1: It doesn't because Muller is not barred from doing what

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Speaker 1: ken Store did. That is saying in his report we

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Speaker 1: found this, this, and this to be felonious. He can

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Speaker 1: absolutely say that it'd state that, backing it up with

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Speaker 1: whatever they found. Now, let's advance the story a little bit. Well,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you one question and then we'll go back.

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Speaker 1: We'll go back to your lightning round. Do you also believe,

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Speaker 1: as I do, if they had the evidence that Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump had committed any crime. Now, the fact that you're saying, well,

1016
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Speaker 1: I can't exonerate somebody does not make you guilty, nor

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Speaker 1: does it rise to the level of an indictment, which

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Speaker 1: was very important. But do you doubt the team that

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Speaker 1: Muller put together only Democratic donors, somebody with one of

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Speaker 1: the most atrocious track records in terms of unethical behavior.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Weissman, Genie Ray, Clinton's former attorney at the Clinton Foundation,

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Speaker 1: do you have any doubt they would have been clear

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Speaker 1: that they thought the president committed a crime. No, but

1024
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 1: let's take politics out of it. Let's advance the story

1025
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Speaker 1: into the legal realm. If Robert Mueller had evidence Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump committed a crime and didn't state that evidence in

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Speaker 1: his report. Then Robert Muller himself is guilty of obstruction

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Speaker 1: of justice. That's a good point. Robert Mueller could be

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01:08:56,680 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 1: prosecuted himself if he has it in there was a

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Speaker 1: crime committed and did not state that evidence under his mandate,

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Speaker 1: under the charge he was given, you could bring him

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Speaker 1: in and charge him with a felony. That's how absurd

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Speaker 1: this whole thing was today. It even gets worse. And

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you one of the things. And it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Nadler seems to now be in protective mode of Mueller

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Speaker 1: because they can compel him to testify. You know, they

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Speaker 1: could hold him in contempt. Now, Mueller's that going to

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Speaker 1: say anything you didn't say today? Well, but here's the bill,

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Speaker 1: here's the problem. You also have guys like Jim Jordan

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Speaker 1: and Mark Meadows. He would have to answer, when did

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Speaker 1: you know there was no collusion between the Trump campaign

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Speaker 1: and Russia? He would have to answer, well, hang on

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Speaker 1: those whatever he wanted to site did a total waste

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Speaker 1: of time. Okay, But the next question, I don't think

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Speaker 1: he can go back to the report. How is it

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Speaker 1: you had time for insignificant Farah violations and taxi medallions?

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Speaker 1: Loan applications and taxes. And your main mandate was Russian interference.

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Speaker 1: And you never looked at the dirty Russian dossier that

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton pay for. He could just wipe that out

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Speaker 1: of the park. It was that, and we were on

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Speaker 1: this court. The mandate gave him clearance to go in

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Speaker 1: any direction he needed to go. But he's got He's

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Speaker 1: gonna say our guidelines were this, we did this. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it would be stupefying not to say that neither. It

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Speaker 1: won't call him, but Mueller covered himself on that. Realm

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Speaker 1: Muller will stay within his eight minute statement. He will.

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Speaker 1: And I don't even think that's important. You know what

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Speaker 1: I think is important that is that the American people

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Speaker 1: understand the bigger picture that's going on here. Number One,

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Speaker 1: the president of the United States is being denied due

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Speaker 1: priests unto the law. I mean, that's pretty outrageous itself,

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Speaker 1: all right. Number Two, the obstruction that Nadler's talking about

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Speaker 1: coming to If you read the report, there are just

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Speaker 1: two things that Muller cited that could rise. The firing

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Speaker 1: of James Comey and the order to the counselor McCann.

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Speaker 1: The President's counselor to get rid of X, Y and

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Speaker 1: Z or do something to sen which was never, of

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Speaker 1: course carried out. Because you and I know Donald Trump

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01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: and events. He vents as most people do, by the way,

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Speaker 1: most innocent people, and in this case, the president saying

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01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 1: loudly every day, I never did this, that's right, and

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Speaker 1: you can imagine his frustration on certain days and he's

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Speaker 1: we gotta get rid of this one, or we got

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Speaker 1: to do this. That's not obstruction of justice. There must

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Speaker 1: be an act now if you're going to pin a case,

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Speaker 1: a felonious case, on the firing of James Coomy. Here's

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Speaker 1: Mueller's big problem. Here's why he couldn't have that in

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Speaker 1: his report, because it's more than likely that William Barr

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Speaker 1: is going to release an Inspector General's report that says

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Speaker 1: Coomy broke the law that's coming. Muller could not be

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Speaker 1: on Komy's side and could not cite Coomy as part

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Speaker 1: of an obstructive situation. Because Komy, I firmly believe, is

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Speaker 1: going to be indicted himself, and you know you and

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Speaker 1: I have talked about this. This is the time for

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration to get that Inspector General's report out tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why. Let the Nadlers of the world

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Speaker 1: right Donald Trump in the court of public opinion. So

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Speaker 1: get it out. It's done, release it all right, quick,

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Speaker 1: break up. We'll come back more with Bill O'Reilly on

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Speaker 1: the other side, Bill O'Reilly dot com for all things

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Speaker 1: O'Reilly world. All right, as we continue, Bill O'Reilly is

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Speaker 1: with us, going over the news Robert Mueller's press conference

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01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 1: from earlier today. You know, we both covered on Fox

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01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 1: at the same time the whole Clinton impeachment saga. The

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01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 1: day Bill Clinton did get impeached. Now, remember when you

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Speaker 1: go back to the old Independent Council statute and versus.

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01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 1: You know, people like Nadler didn't want the Star report out.

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Speaker 1: There were eleven specific crimes laid out in that report

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Speaker 1: by Ken Starr specific and the day that Bill Clinton

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Speaker 1: was impeached, and he also had to pay nearly a

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Speaker 1: million dollars to Paul Jones, and he lost his law license,

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Speaker 1: he had suborned perjury. He had a seventy three percent

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Speaker 1: approval rating. The next day, Bill, I say, let the

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Speaker 1: Democrats do this politically and they will guarantee the reelection

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Speaker 1: of Donald Trump. Well, nattle shaky. Say did you see him?

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01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: Did he was he didn't know what to do? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was really shaky. And Muller looked tense, real tense.

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Speaker 1: Muller was not confident. There, no, all right, So they

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01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: understand that if you're going to put the nation through

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Speaker 1: two years of maybe could a, shoulda, would a, but

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01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 1: we really don't have it. But it might have happened,

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Speaker 1: you know. Number One, fair minded people are going to

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Speaker 1: say this is unfair and what Muller I want to reiterate,

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01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 1: what Muller did today was unfair, okay. And number two,

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Speaker 1: the Independence which will decide the election twenty twenty, I

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01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 1: think are going to shift over and say, you know,

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01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 1: we may not like Donald Trump as a person, but

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01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 1: the machine up against him is corrupt and we're not

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Speaker 1: going to vote for a corrupt machine. And that's what

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Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi knows. That you put up Biden or anybody,

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Speaker 1: any of these people, and if that machine is perceived

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01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: to be a corrupt one, you're gonna lose. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's very interesting, Bill, because there's something that's called overreach

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Speaker 1: here and the Democratic Party. I really believe that it's

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Speaker 1: like a Donald Trump lives in the brains of every

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Speaker 1: Democrat on Capitol Hill, but also in the media mob

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01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 1: separate and apart, but also important to me, And they

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Speaker 1: cannot at this point even help themselves from the compulsion

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01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 1: that that waits for them the moment their eyes open

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01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 1: every day. Which is what am I going to hate

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01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:35,879
Speaker 1: this guy about today? That? I mean, it is that bad.

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01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 1: It is. We've gotten to a point where this rage psychosis.

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01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: It is they cannot believe they didn't get what they

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01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: wanted from Muller, and they can't believe the guy became president.

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01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 1: But they're still hopeful. See, the hardcore cadre on the

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01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 1: progressive left is still hopeful that something will emerge to

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01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: destroy Donald Trump. So they want to keep this thing going.

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01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: And of course they don't want to make a mistake.

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01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't want to admit it. So the

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Speaker 1: New York Times, how many articles did they convict Donald

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01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 1: Trump of the most heinous things you could convict them of?

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01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 1: How many times have they done it? New York Times

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01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: is going to turn around and go, ah, you know, well,

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01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 1: we might have been wrong on that. Never never, And

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01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: you know what is really fascinating to watch entities like CNN,

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01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 1: go down and down and down and still do it. Bill,

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01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 1: putting a baseball team on the field and you do.

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01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: You have nine guys, none of them can hit, and

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01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: you keep them on the field every single day and

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01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 1: you never win a right starting, you have a few

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01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 1: more minutes that you got work to do, because I

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01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 1: want to hold you through the break. No, I mean

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01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 1: this is fun. I like doing this. Hang on, Bill

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01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 1: O'Reilly's with us, Bill o'reiley dot com. He's got his

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01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 1: trump coming out in the fall. If you go to

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01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 1: his website you'll see it all right. Twenty five now

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01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: till the top of the hour. Eight hundred and nine

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01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: for one seawn is our number. If you want to

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01:16:58,160 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 1: be a part of the program, we'll get to a

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Speaker 1: few calls in a minute. Just a couple and more minutes.

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Speaker 1: Two more questions with Bill O'Reilly and his website, Bill

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01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 1: oreilly dot com. You know, look, you have spent your

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01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 1: entire career in media, and I've had enough you know,

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01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 1: private conversations with you that I can literally say when

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01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: it comes to television audiences, ratings. Um, Look, there's a

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01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 1: reason you were number one in cable for all those years.

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01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 1: By the way. You're welcome to take it back from

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Speaker 1: me anytime you want, because you can have all the

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01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 1: fire and incoming that I get every day since you left.

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01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, appreciate it. Yeah, let me tell gives

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01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 1: me as a human shield. Well, you know what you're doing,

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01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 1: there's definite benefits and being number two, you know, because

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01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 1: just go after the top guy, leave me alone. I understand.

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01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: That's why I'm kind of glad I'm out of it now.

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01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 1: Every day of my life I had to deal with it.

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01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 1: But what you're saying is that I understand the audience.

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Speaker 1: You understand television. Okay, So here's what my question. How

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Speaker 1: do these so called news networks get away with what

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01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: turns out to be outright lying for two years, nothing

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01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: but a web of conspiracy theories that they peddled, mostly

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01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 1: with anonymous sources, hype and hyper ventilation any moment they

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01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 1: think they've got this president on the ropes because the

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01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 1: management condones it and at one point thought it was

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01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:31,639
Speaker 1: going to make money off of it. So MSNBC was nothing,

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01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 1: nothing for seventeen years. All right, So all of these

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01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:41,719
Speaker 1: networks that say that they are news and they peddle

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01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories lies for two plus years and then I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna get to a second part of the question after

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01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:52,759
Speaker 1: but how do they ever recover or do they never recover?

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Speaker 1: They don't recover. It's like Time magazine, Newsweek, Magazine, now

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01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated just got sold. Once the consumer believes that

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01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 1: he or she is not getting a fair presentation, then

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01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:15,799
Speaker 1: most will leave and not buy or watch or whatever

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01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 1: it may be. The zealots will stay. So if you're

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Speaker 1: a far left media concern, that far left will watch you.

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01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 1: So Rachel Maddow is the best example of this. On

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01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 1: a hot day where the left thinks they've got a

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01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 1: new surround President Trump's neck, her ratings go up. But

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Speaker 1: on an ordinary day when that doesn't exist, she doesn't

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01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: do very well. So it's all her whole constituency is

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01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 1: based on can we get rid of Donald Trump? That's

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01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:51,719
Speaker 1: not the recipe for success long term. And the reason

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01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: at Fox News Channel, I can say whatever they want

1204
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,799
Speaker 1: about Fox News Channel, but I was one for sixteen

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01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 1: consecutive years is because I was perceived to be. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I'm only number one for three years and

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Speaker 1: I'm not. There's no I mean, but let me tell

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Speaker 1: you something. I have no plans to stay that long

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01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,719
Speaker 1: to break your record. I'm just telling everybody now, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well I hope you do. Yeah, I really do. I mean,

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01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna play golf. Go ahead. You base your

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Speaker 1: analysis on facts, yes, and that is the difference, not

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01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:25,919
Speaker 1: a hatred, not emotion, not I wanted a socialist government.

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01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 1: You basically see the world the way you see it.

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01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 1: Everybody knows what that is. But then when you present thing,

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01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 1: it's fact based. That's a key to success. Bill. Ninety

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01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 1: nine percent of the news media in this country went

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01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 1: in one direction. You know, there have been times in

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01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 1: my career and your career as well, both of us,

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01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 1: we come at something from an entirely different angle. When

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Speaker 1: I vetted Obama the last two years, we've been up

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Speaker 1: peeling this onion. And with the declassification last week, it's

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01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 1: not a matter of if anymore America is going to

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01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 1: see the FISA applications. America is gonna see the three

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Speaker 1: O two's, the Gang of eight, the exculpatory evidence. It's

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01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 1: all coming. But here's my big problem, and I want

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Speaker 1: you to really dig into this now. If these people

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Speaker 1: on the left, in the media, democrats, if they cared about,

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Speaker 1: let's say, obstruction of justice. How did they all ignore

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01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 1: Hillary's behavior an underlying crime the Espionage Act, and then

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01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 1: when she deletes thirty three thousand subpoenat emails, bleached, bit

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Speaker 1: hammers and simcards removed. If they care about Russian interference,

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Speaker 1: how do you ignore the dirty dossier? Even the New

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Speaker 1: York Times is suggesting that Christopher Steele will put this

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Speaker 1: together paid by Hillary, that it was Russian disinformation, but

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Speaker 1: then it's used in a FISA warrant application to spy

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Speaker 1: on the opposition party candidate to influence an election, and

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01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 1: also spreading it out to media members so it would

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Speaker 1: impact the twenty sixteen election. How do you ignore? You know,

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01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 1: how do you say I'm a believer when you talk

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01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: about Justice Kavanaugh in high school? But there's no eye

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01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 1: believers when it comes to the Lieutenant governor of the

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Speaker 1: Commonwealth of Virginia, who is has credible allegations of rape

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01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 1: and violent sexual assault. Not you don't hear a peep

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01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 1: out of them. Where is some desire in here to

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01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 1: get to the truth rather than just being a total

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01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 1: hack for a Democratic party socialist agenda? Zealots do not

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01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 1: seek the truth? If you are a political zealot, and

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01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 1: you could be one on the right as well as

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01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 1: the left. You are not interested in what really happens,

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01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:01,440
Speaker 1: or what's fair or what's good for the entire country.

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01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:05,719
Speaker 1: The only thing you are interested in is imposing your

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01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 1: view of the world on everybody else. So that's the

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01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 1: answer to your question. If you're not a rational person,

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Speaker 1: you're not sitting down as examining evidence. No, you want socialism,

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01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 1: So anyone who doesn't, you're going to try to destroy them.

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Speaker 1: You don't care how because the end justifies the means,

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01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:32,799
Speaker 1: and that, unfortunately has taken root in about twenty twenty

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01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:37,600
Speaker 1: five percent of the American population. That's pretty scary, you know,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day. In the reason, for example,

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Speaker 1: what do I do for a living? If somebody asked me,

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Speaker 1: I'll say, I'm a talk show host. Well, you're not

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01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 1: a journalist. No, I'm a talk show host. You're a

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Speaker 1: well maybe you're an opinion journalist. I said, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: part of being a talk show host. Bill. I can produce,

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Speaker 1: as you can, hundreds of hours of straight reporting whatever

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Speaker 1: it maybe a war, God forbid, or maybe a natural disaster,

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Speaker 1: and there's no opinion We've done investigative work the last

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Speaker 1: two years on the deep state or vetting Obama two examples.

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Speaker 1: We give opinion, but we're honest about the opinions and

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Speaker 1: why I am a conservative because conservatism works, i e.

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Speaker 1: The economy under Trump after tax cuts and ending burdens

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Speaker 1: and regulation. We also talk sports and culture and everything

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Speaker 1: in between. In other words, I view what I do

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Speaker 1: as the entire newspaper. They're supposed to be objective. They're not.

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Speaker 1: Can you think of anybody on cable today that you

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Speaker 1: would say, meaning a host in primetime that is objective.

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Speaker 1: I think Bridge Hume is pretty fair well, but and

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Speaker 1: I think a guy like that is who you want

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Speaker 1: to put up. He's a thinker, leans a little bit conservative,

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Speaker 1: but doesn't allow doesn't let that influences a reportage. But

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Speaker 1: there are very few of them because they take order sannity.

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Speaker 1: I mean, guys like me and you. We're lucky in

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Speaker 1: the sense that we started this business and we didn't

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Speaker 1: get interference. I mean I never got interference view Riley Facker.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you got interference with sanity and calms

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Speaker 1: when you started, No, none at all. Okay, so we

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Speaker 1: didn't have corporate masters telling us what to do. Again.

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Speaker 1: I'll go back. If you're in a reporter for the

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Speaker 1: New York Times and you are seen on the street

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Speaker 1: in your off hours wearing a mega hat, you're through

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Speaker 1: that done. By the way, the mega hat is now

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Speaker 1: the new trigger of the left in American's hilarious. I know,

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Speaker 1: but there wasn't that culture when we started the Fox. Okay,

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Speaker 1: But but you work for like I knew PE, you're Jennings.

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Speaker 1: I worked for Jennings, right, and I worked for rather okay,

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Speaker 1: and I knew in both organizations, CBS much more than

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Speaker 1: ABC UM. But they and once in a while they

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Speaker 1: crossed the line with me and they got pushedback. I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't brook it, but most of the reporters did,

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Speaker 1: most of the reporters working over there, if they got

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Speaker 1: told by management, this is how you skew the story.

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Speaker 1: They did it, and now all of them do it

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Speaker 1: on cable and that's what you're seeing. It's fascinating, though,

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Speaker 1: because I got to know Jennings and Brokaw and Tim Russer.

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Speaker 1: Tim Russer he moderated m a debate between me and

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Speaker 1: James Carvill, but more importantly, I would interview him. I

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Speaker 1: just happened to love his two books that he wrote,

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Speaker 1: Big Us. He was a fair guy. But those But

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Speaker 1: but Bill Peter Jennings came in my radio studio highlighting

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Speaker 1: every page of the book that I had recently written.

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Speaker 1: Tim Russ would seek my opinion as a conservative to

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Speaker 1: understand it. Tom Brokaw, he was great until now he's

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Speaker 1: in a mode where he has to protect the MSNBC

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Speaker 1: for some reason. But I don't think he was a

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Speaker 1: rigid radical ideologue. Although I think they all slant and left. Well,

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Speaker 1: for Brokaw, it was a social thing, I have to say,

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Speaker 1: because I know them all. Rather was a committed liberal, right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Sam Donaldson, same thing. Right. Brokaw is a social liberal.

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Speaker 1: Love the parties, love the salons. Jenny's didn't like any

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Speaker 1: of that. Jenny, you know, he went out and he

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Speaker 1: schmoozed around. But he was real suspect of all of that,

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Speaker 1: and so he was the least ideological of all of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's just we're never going. I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's a path back. No, there isn't, because corporate

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Speaker 1: America controls it. Now. It's a big money maker. Now

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Speaker 1: it's not a news uh calling. It's not like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're here for the people. We want to give the

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Speaker 1: people the truth. That's not what's happening. It's like, we

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Speaker 1: want to make as much money as we can make,

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Speaker 1: and along the way, I want to have friends that

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Speaker 1: will invite me to all the parties in the Hampton's,

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Speaker 1: Manhattan and Hollywood. So I'm going to be liberal. But

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Speaker 1: what they but what they're gonna do Bill, just from

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Speaker 1: a just like looking at it from a business model perspective,

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Speaker 1: is they're gonna kill the goose that laid the golden egg.

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Speaker 1: It's already dead. It's already dead, and it's already dead.

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Speaker 1: Well here's the thing though, I mean, in many ways,

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Speaker 1: I think we'll look at the golden age of cable

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Speaker 1: and even broadcast news. But I will tell you what

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Speaker 1: they The biggest shock for all of them is the

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Speaker 1: day that Donald Trump leaves office, which is going to

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Speaker 1: be no, no, it's over. They nobody will watch him.

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Speaker 1: If Joe Biden never gets elected president, cable ratings are

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Speaker 1: going to call fall fifty. I won't be on the air,

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Speaker 1: so it won't matter. I don't care. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: never gonna see him. Has anybody seen him since May seventeenth,

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Speaker 1: he made as an asser for president. It's gone ten

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Speaker 1: days in a row. He must have been tired from

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Speaker 1: that one appearance in Philly. You know, look, he didn't

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Speaker 1: have to campaign. I've said that from the jump. You're

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Speaker 1: not going to see him in a diner. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: do name recognition. And I'm Obama. You know, I'm the

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Speaker 1: return of Obama. Vote for me. That's all he's gonna do.

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Speaker 1: Not gonna work bill, not in this day and age,

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Speaker 1: No way. The order appointing me special counsel authorized us

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Speaker 1: to investigate actions that could obstruct the investigation, and we

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Speaker 1: conducted that investigation, and we kept the Office of the

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Speaker 1: Acting Attorney General apprized of the progress of our work,

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Speaker 1: and as a fourth in the report. After that investigation,

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Speaker 1: if we had had confidence that the president clearly did

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Speaker 1: not commit a crime, we would have said so. We did, not, however,

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Speaker 1: make a determination as to whether the President did commit

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Speaker 1: a crime. The introduction to the Volume two of our

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Speaker 1: report explains that decision. It explains that, under longstanding Department policy,

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Speaker 1: as president cannot be charged with a federal crime while

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Speaker 1: he is in office that is unconstitutional. Even if the

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Speaker 1: charge is kept under seal and hidden from public view,

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Speaker 1: that too is prohibited. The Special Counsel's Office is part

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Speaker 1: of the Department of Justice, and by regulation it was

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Speaker 1: bound by that department policy. Charging the president with a

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Speaker 1: crime was therefore not an option we could consider. All right,

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna have so much more on this debacle

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Speaker 1: today and the news and information that you really need

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Speaker 1: to know about, and all the noise is not and

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Speaker 1: will not be what you think it is, and where

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Speaker 1: this is all really heady. That's tonight at nine on

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Speaker 1: Hannity on the Fox News Channel. I hope you join us.

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Speaker 1: We've got a great lineup tonight as well as usual,

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Speaker 1: and we will be joined tonight, yes, the great one,

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Speaker 1: Mark Levin, Jay Sekulo, the President's Attorney, Alan Dershowitz, Gregan

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Speaker 1: Sarah and John Solomon, Jim Jordan, and Mike Huckabee. That's

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Speaker 1: all ninety Eastern tonight, Hannity, Fox. See you then, thanks

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Speaker 1: for being with us. Back here tomorrow