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I'm Terrence Bates filling in 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 4: for Steve Gruber. It is Monday, September first, and Happy 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 4: Labor Day to all of those of you who are 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 4: tuning in right now. 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: All right, let's get right to it. 19 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 4: The backbone of any flourishing economy as the workers, as 20 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 4: they are the ones who generate revenue and get the 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 4: job done. While we recognized the importance of workers here 22 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 4: in the United States, things weren't always this way. 23 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: Back then. 24 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 4: Work conditions for the average Americans saw really long hours, 25 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 4: longer work weeks, and a general disregard for safety. Children 26 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 4: were even subject to working these growing stretches. A labor 27 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 4: union made up of thousands of Americans, including brick layers, jewelers, topographers, 28 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 4: and railroad workers, ultimately showed their support for a new 29 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 4: proposed work structure by not showing up and going on 30 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 4: strike until legislation or some other measure by the government 31 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 4: was instated. 32 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: Well. 33 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 4: The effort saw success as the holiday was officially recognized 34 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 4: on the federal level in eighteen ninety four, which marked 35 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 4: a win for the workers as the eight hour work 36 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 4: week in five day work week, eight hour work day 37 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 4: excuse me, and five. 38 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 3: Day work week became standard. 39 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 4: So here to walk us through more of Labor Day's history, 40 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 4: as historian Bill Federer. 41 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: Bill, welcome, char It's great to be with you. 42 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 4: So put into context for us the importance of labor 43 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,919 Speaker 4: Day and from whence we've come. 44 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 5: Well, for most of world history people were having jobs 45 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 5: like butcher, baker, cabinet maker. But then the Industrial Revolution happened. 46 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 5: What's that Well, Ireland they burned peat in their fireplaces, 47 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 5: but in England they burned coal and coal mines would 48 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 5: fill up with water. So in seventeen sixty a Scottish 49 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 5: inventor James Watt developed a steam pump to pump water 50 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 5: out of the coal. 51 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: Mines, and the steam engines. 52 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 5: Quickly developed and they ran factories, and you saw the 53 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 5: fastest rise in the standard of living in human history, 54 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 5: where instead of ladies sitting at a mill making thread 55 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 5: to weave together to make a sweater, you could buy 56 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 5: whole entire bolts of cloth. Well there were in America 57 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 5: bringing in these goods from England. You would have tearff 58 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 5: taxes to make it more expensive, which would help the 59 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 5: factories in the North. And that was some of the 60 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 5: animosity that led up to the Civil War. But what 61 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 5: happened was workers that came over from Germany had some 62 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 5: of Karl Marx's ideas of redistributing the wealth, and so 63 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 5: they began to organize into unions, and then they had strikes. 64 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 5: What was that Pulban Railroad car Company Chicago. There's a 65 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 5: downturn in the economy and the workers got paid less, 66 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 5: and so Eugene Debs organize strikes and one of them 67 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 5: in eighteen ninety four, destroyed eighty million dollars worth of 68 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 5: railroad cars in twenty. 69 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: Seven states, killing a bunch. 70 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 5: Of people and so you had Eugene Debs was arrested 71 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 5: because it interrupted the transferring of mail across the country. 72 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 5: And the president was a Democrat. It was Grover Eveland, 73 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 5: and his advisors told him that because of this that 74 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 5: the Democrats might lose the mid term elections, and so 75 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,559 Speaker 5: he decided to come up with a day where workers 76 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 5: could take the day off, and he called it Labor Day. Now, 77 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 5: the workers wanted it on May first because that was 78 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 5: to coordinate with the International Workers Day and the Haymarket 79 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 5: riots where in Chicago you had the police were killed 80 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 5: when there was a riot, somebody threw a bomb, and 81 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 5: so they wanted to celebrate that on May first. 82 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 2: But instead Grover. 83 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 5: Cleveland said, I want to pick the first Monday in September. 84 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:53,679 Speaker 5: And so that's how September, the first Monday in September, 85 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 5: got to be chosen as Labor Day. 86 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 4: Okay, So as I'm listening to you, I'm sorry to interrupt, 87 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 4: But as I'm listening to you, the thing that the 88 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 4: mind is that organized labor, which is a term I 89 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 4: think most of us are used to, has been a 90 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 4: political and social movement in this country for centuries now, 91 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 4: almost since the inception of our country. 92 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: Is that accurate? 93 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 5: Right? Well, at the beginning, you had trades and people 94 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 5: would apprentice. So Ben Franklin was apprenticed to be a 95 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 5: printer for his older brother, James Franklin, and then they 96 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,239 Speaker 5: got into an argument and he left, which was illegal. 97 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 5: You were not supposed to leave the place you're apprenticed to. 98 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 5: And then that's why Ben Franklin fled to Philadelphia. But 99 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 5: there were no factories. It wasn't till you had this 100 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 5: Industrial revolution that you had factories. And yes, they had 101 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 5: the work conditions that would be you know, child labor 102 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 5: working long hours, unsafe equipment. And so they would organize 103 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 5: and the Eugene Debs was the one who organized the strike. 104 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 2: So strikes were sort of a new thing. 105 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 5: Eugene Jebs was put in prison, but while he was 106 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 5: in prison, he read. 107 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 2: Karl Marxist dos Copytowl. 108 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 5: And so he comes out of prison and Eugene Debs 109 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 5: founds the Socialist Party of America in nineteen oh one. 110 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 5: He runs for president five times up until nineteen twenty. 111 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 5: He gets zero electoral votes, and so that's why he 112 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 5: started the movement to get rid of the electoral college. 113 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: Then World War one starts, and. 114 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 5: Eugene Debs is an objector to the draft, and so 115 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 5: he tells people don't get drafted. One of the people 116 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 5: that followed Eugene Debs was Roger Baldwin, and so he 117 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 5: was a draft dodger, and he started the ACLU to 118 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 5: defend agitators who were of socialist organizers wanting to redistribute 119 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 5: the wealth. And then, interestingly enough, Eugene Debs's works were 120 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 5: read by Vladimir Lenin, and so he said, hey, let's 121 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 5: get rid of the czar, which killed twelve million people. 122 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: And Lennon wrote, look at America. 123 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 5: Apart from everything else, they have Eugene Debs, an American 124 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 5: rebel who declares that the only war he wants to 125 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 5: be involved in is a civil war for socialism. And 126 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 5: so Eugene Debs is charged with ten counts of sedition, 127 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 5: put in jail for ten years, and then they riot 128 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 5: to get him out, and it's called the May Day Riots. 129 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 5: In nineteen nineteen, they asked Woodrow Wilson to let him out, 130 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 5: and Woodrow Wilson says denied. 131 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: While the flower of. 132 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 5: The American youth were pouring out their blood over in 133 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 5: World War One, deb stood behind the lines, sniping, attacking, 134 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 5: and denouncing them. 135 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: Warren G. 136 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 5: Harding said that he is a dangerous man. And then, 137 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 5: interestingly enough, Bernie Sanders has a picture of Eugene Debs 138 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 5: when he was mayor there in the city hall in Burlington, 139 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 5: Vermont did a documentary film praising you Debs, and had 140 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 5: a plaque. 141 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: To him in his congressional office. 142 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 5: So, off of the Socialist Party of America comes the 143 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 5: Communist Party of America and they run candidates for president 144 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 5: every year until nineteen forty, but then they start supporting 145 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 5: Franklin Roosevelt because of his socialist New Deal programs. And 146 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 5: then Franklin Rooselt made a treaty with Stalin during World 147 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 5: War Two, and so it's one of these holidays that 148 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 5: has sort of an interesting history to it. 149 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 2: Now, you have to give credit. The unions did come 150 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: up with an eight. 151 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 5: Hour work day, a forty hour work week, got rid 152 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 5: of the child labor, improved the benefits, made it safer. 153 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 5: But there were consequences, and one was Henry Ford and 154 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 5: his Ford Motor Company that were being forced by the 155 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 5: unions to give all these new benefits. Henry Ford is 156 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 5: overseas and there is a a Muslim man, a Yemeny 157 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 5: muslim man who help put luggage on the boat. And 158 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 5: Henry Ford says, hey, come to Detroit, I'll give you 159 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 5: a job five bucks a day. And then Henry Ford 160 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 5: began to bring the Muslims into Detroit to break the unions, 161 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 5: and so the unions ended up being anti immigrant. And 162 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 5: then you had businesses wanting to cut expenses because of 163 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 5: these new benefits, so they began to automate with machines 164 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 5: and outsources, and so they could now begin to outsource 165 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 5: all the factories to overseas to avoid paying the higher 166 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 5: labor costs and the higher wages and all the rest 167 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 5: of it. 168 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 2: So yes, it benefited the. 169 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 5: Jobs in America, but it created this thing called outsourcing. 170 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 5: But you know, it's important to understand that we have 171 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 5: to have jobs in America. So you have to make 172 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 5: it more prosperous for the factory to have its location 173 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 5: in a America then overseas. And so that's where Trump 174 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 5: is coming in saying, okay, look, we got to have 175 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 5: tariffs on these foreign produce goods I because then the 176 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 5: factors will move back to America and we can have 177 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 5: more American jobs. And one of the people that often gets. 178 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: Overlooked is Booker T. Washington. 179 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 5: My son and I did a book about it, and 180 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 5: Booker T. Washington said, I don't want you to just 181 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 5: get a job. I want you to create jobs. And 182 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 5: so he started the National Negro League. It was ten 183 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 5: years before the US Chamber of Commerce, and. 184 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: Booker T. 185 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 5: Washington said this. He wrote it started the year nineteen hundred. 186 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 5: He says, anyone can seek a job, but it requires 187 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 5: a person of rare ability to create a job. What 188 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 5: we should do in our schools is turn out a 189 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 5: fewer job seekers and more job creators. And so it's 190 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 5: a whole different mental attitude. 191 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: And Ronald Reagan. 192 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 5: In nineteen eighty eight said, I believe God did give 193 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 5: mankind unlimited gifts to invent. 194 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: Produce, and create. 195 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 5: And for that reason, we shouldn't have a government which 196 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 5: penalizes people for creating jobs. So labor dates a little 197 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 5: bit more than hot dogs and picnics. It has this 198 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 5: sort of mixed history, but we do appreciate working and 199 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 5: being able to keep the fruits of your labor. 200 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 2: We're in socialist countries. You don't own anything. 201 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 5: The government takes it all away, and there's a demotivation 202 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 5: to work. So in America you get to work, keep 203 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 5: the fruit of your labor, and if you want, you 204 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 5: can give away some of your money as charity. 205 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: There you go. 206 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 4: And one of the things that this history lesson that 207 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 4: you just kind of gave me kind of taught me 208 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 4: is that we truly have transitioned from the industrial revolution 209 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 4: to entrepreneurism and small business as part of the US 210 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 4: labor history. 211 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, the Little Spiritual Insight one Corinthians fifteen says, therefore, 212 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 5: my brother and be steadfast, unmovable, abounding in the work 213 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 5: of the Lord, for as much as you know that 214 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 5: your labor is not in vain in the Lord. So 215 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 5: we work, and then we also work for the Lord, 216 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 5: and he blesses us. 217 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 4: Absolutely, because being able to work and having a job 218 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 4: is a blessing if you really want to look at 219 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 4: it from a spiritual perspective. Thanks so much for the 220 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 4: history lesson. That was super interesting, a lot that I 221 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 4: didn't realize. 222 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for you to have a book. 223 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 5: Okay book, sorry, it's called Socialism the Real History from 224 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 5: Plato to the present and it covers all this stuff. 225 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 5: And Americanmanute dot com is my website. 226 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 4: All Right, give us that book title again so that 227 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 4: we can google and go ahead and buy it. 228 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 5: It's called Socialism, The Real History from Plato to the Present. 229 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 5: And Plato's the first one that talked about everybody owning 230 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 5: everything in common. And it sounds good until you think 231 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 5: it through. Somebody has to be in the government handing 232 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 5: out the common stuff, and they're always going to be 233 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 5: favoring their family and friends and holding back from someone 234 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 5: they don't like, and it gets discretionary, and the saying 235 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 5: is he who ows the purse strings. 236 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: That's the power. 237 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 5: So every attempt that everybody owning everything equally always ends 238 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 5: up with a deep state bureaucracy passing out favors to 239 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 5: their friends and weaponizing government against their enemies. 240 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 4: All Right, thank you so much for joining us this afternoon. 241 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 4: We appreciate you being here. 242 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 3: Enjoy your Labor day. 243 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: Thanks Terrence. 244 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: Thank you. 245 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 4: All right, folks, don't go anywhere more. America's Voice Live 246 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 4: coming away shortly. Thanks so much for sticking around for 247 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 4: America's Voice Live on this Labor Day. We appreciate you 248 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 4: being here with us. Seven months have passed since President 249 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 4: Trump was sworn into office and after the major victory 250 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 4: over Kamala Harris. Doing the twenty twenty four campaign, President 251 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 4: Trump immediately got to work to make good on his 252 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 4: promises of making America great again, from his crackdown on 253 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 4: illy legal immigration to peace talks with key world leaders, 254 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 4: including Vladimir Putin. These past seven months have been very, very, 255 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 4: very busy for the President. Joining me now to discuss 256 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 4: all of the wins and the victories is Conservative Caucus 257 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 4: President Jim Path. 258 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: Jim, good to see you. 259 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 2: Good to see you too, sir. 260 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 4: So, look, there have been victories upon victories upon victories. 261 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 4: You can barely count all the wins that President Trump 262 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 4: has collected over the last seven months. But in your estimation, 263 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 4: what's the most significant? You know, I honestly. 264 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 6: Believe changing the course and direction of the government has 265 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 6: been a very significant one. And what I mean by 266 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 6: that is both in terms of what you see Tulca 267 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 6: Gabber doing in kind of rooting out these deep state 268 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 6: actors who were attempting to overthrow Donald Trump's literally his 269 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 6: president his first presidency and have continued that effort ever since. 270 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: That's a really key thing that's taken place. 271 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 6: But maybe even more importantly is that He's changed the 272 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 6: direction and course that takes place. 273 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: In the way we spend money, the way we. 274 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 6: Decide where and when and if we need government employees. Remember, 275 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 6: the Biden administration was growing the federal payroll by hundreds 276 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 6: of thousands throughout his administration. That's been reversed to great 277 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 6: consternation from Democrats, But that has been a key factor. 278 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 6: But I will say this, the legacy of Donald Trump, 279 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 6: I believe, is not just going to lay in areas 280 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 6: like that and changing our immigration policy. I really believe 281 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 6: these peace deals he's made are going to be a 282 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 6: long lasting legacy, particularly the Abraham Accords, where we're told 283 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 6: that there are going to be some expanded names given 284 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 6: into that, into that organ that group, that agreement. So 285 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 6: I think it's really significant and we're gonna be talking 286 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 6: about Donald Trump for decades to come. 287 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 4: All right, So I'm going to follow you down that road. Then, 288 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 4: the Peacemaker, if he's been nicknamed that. A number of leaders, 289 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 4: some from Africa and elsewhere in the world, have said 290 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 4: that they think he should get the Nobel Peace Prize 291 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 4: because of the kind of peace that he's broken and 292 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 4: because he truly stands for peace. It truly is monumental, 293 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 4: and he has done so quickly. I guess I'm couching that. Yes, 294 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 4: there is no peace deal in place yet for Russian Ukraine, 295 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 4: but he's working on it. There is no peace plan 296 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 4: in place yet between Israel and Moss, but he's working 297 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 4: on it. He's interceding in these huge, uh, these huge 298 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 4: years long wars. 299 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, we have been in a Cold War trajectory, 300 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 6: even after the Cold War has been long gone by 301 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 6: nearly forty years. Remember when the Berlin Wall fell, there 302 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 6: was a limited need for NATO at all. Like it 303 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 6: continued on, and you can understand for a few years 304 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 6: that it might continue on. But Russia was trying to 305 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 6: come in to the normal grouping of nations. And yet 306 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 6: we kept NATO going and looked at Russia continually as 307 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 6: a threat when for all their flaws, the worrish Elson 308 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 6: in the early leadership of the Russian Federation, we're really trying. 309 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: To figure out how to come into. 310 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 6: The normal group of nations post Soviet Union. So that 311 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 6: set a trajectory of continuing Cold War military structures, cold 312 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 6: War style engagement in other countries. Of course, the whole 313 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 6: concept of you know of conquering countries and bringing them 314 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 6: in as democracies. I mean, that was all something that 315 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 6: was a Cold War initiative. We continued trying to do 316 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 6: those things and determining that America's role in the world, 317 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 6: or at least Clinton and Bush and Obama thought it was, 318 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 6: to intervene in the. 319 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: Politics of nations. 320 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 6: Donald Trump has changed paradigm, and I think somewhat permanently. 321 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 6: I think it's going to be very hard for any 322 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 6: future president after him to reassert any of that because 323 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 6: those structures are changing. But that leads to peace, like 324 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 6: the kind of piece that he's been bringing about. 325 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 3: Jim, as I'm listening to you, I've been thinking to. 326 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 4: Myself, President Trump really has changed the culture of what 327 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 4: it means to be a US president. We've never seen 328 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 4: this sort of presidency before, and the main thing that 329 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 4: comes to mind as a reporter is a sort of 330 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 4: transparency that we're seeing out of the White House. 331 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 6: Well, I'm glad you said that, because these things that 332 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 6: I've just been talking about certainly are changes to the 333 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 6: presidency as well, because of the structural things that he's 334 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 6: put into place, which could always be easily broken down. 335 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 6: But one thing that just may as well. Stick is transparency. 336 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 6: Just look at last week's cabinet meeting, a I think 337 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 6: about a three hour affair where there was open discussion 338 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 6: about everything that the cabinet's doing, and yeah, you weren't 339 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 6: getting absolutely everything that's talked about in private discussions, but 340 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 6: you were getting a lot of that. And Trump rightly 341 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 6: pointed out during that Cabinet meeting that it's historical what 342 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 6: he's doing there. Other presidencies have got to duplicate that, 343 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 6: and they're likely to be Republican presidencies moving forward because 344 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 6: the Democrat coalition is breaking part which is another structural 345 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 6: change in the presidency, like Democrats are losing the ability, 346 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 6: mostly because Joe Biden flubbed it up so badly, but 347 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 6: also because they're not making that transition very well. During 348 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 6: twenty twenty five, they're going to lose touch with what 349 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 6: the presidency is, which means the next Democrat that comes 350 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 6: in there is likely to be someone who is going 351 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 6: to have this continued legacy of transparency and the expectation 352 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 6: of that continuing. So I think that is one of 353 00:19:55,600 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 6: the big modifications. Not to mention the way of president 354 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 6: approaches the media and approaches how he makes deals in 355 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 6: and around government and with international relations. I think, you know, 356 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 6: no one's going to be a Donald Trump, but everyone's 357 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 6: going to be trying to mimic that because of the success. 358 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 4: You must have been reading my mind because I was 359 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 4: thinking to myself, no one's going to be a Donald Trump. 360 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 4: How difficult is it going to be for whoever succeeds 361 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 4: a Democrat or Republican. I'm to be able to fill 362 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 4: those shoes, because he's got some pretty big shoes to fill. 363 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: Well, impossible in many ways. 364 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 6: Look at what Gavin Newsom, for example, has been trying 365 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 6: to do, seeking to sort of mimic in a fashion, 366 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 6: the Donald Trump way of doing things. 367 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: The person who's going to. 368 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 6: Be able to carry forward the approach that Donald Trump 369 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 6: has had is to be themselves while trying to do that. So, 370 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 6: in other words, Gavin Newsom's trying to pretend like he's 371 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 6: Donald Trump. He puts up his merchandise store, he says 372 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 6: thank you for your attention to this matter, after saying 373 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 6: some smarmy, provocative thing, and it just doesn't fly. 374 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: It doesn't work. But if you do it in. 375 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 6: Your way, and you know JD Vance does that, well, 376 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 6: I think even Ron De Santis does that well. Marco Rubio, 377 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 6: I think pretty much does that well. These are three 378 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 6: people that have ever been talked about recently in terms 379 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 6: of the next potential Republican presidential candidate. Those are three 380 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 6: guys who are their own man and have limited success 381 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 6: or have some success in that, but. 382 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: No one's going to quite do it like Donald Trump has. 383 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 6: It will be a standard that people are going to 384 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 6: look to, particularly in the Republican Party. But the way 385 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 6: to make that happen is to be yourself while determining 386 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 6: to have the fundamental approach that Donald Trump has, which 387 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 6: is learning how to make deals and know what deals 388 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 6: need to be made, determining that you're going to assert 389 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 6: the executive authority of the president rather than deciding that 390 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 6: all of your underlings are going to determine what the 391 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 6: president ought to do, which is what we had gotten 392 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 6: into for so long, and a few other factors as 393 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 6: well too. 394 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: Do the fundamentals, but be yourself. 395 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 6: It's never going to be as good as Donald Trump, 396 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 6: but there are some very real lessons to learn. 397 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 4: And those fundamentals, Jim, I would imagine you would agree, 398 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 4: are going to be America first. Whatever is done particularly 399 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 4: from a Republican president, is going to have to be 400 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 4: rooted in America. 401 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: First well, without a doubt. 402 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 6: And in fact, one of the things I didn't talk 403 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 6: about earlier in terms of long run, long term changes 404 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 6: is how he has reset the trade situation with other countries. 405 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 6: I come from a libertarian minded mindset. I believe in 406 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 6: open free trade. The problem is people from that mindset 407 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 6: have been arguing from the wrong base. 408 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: They've been trying to pretend like these. 409 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 6: Zero trade deals that we have with other countries is 410 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 6: free trade, which that's not what happened at all. Other 411 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 6: countries had free trade with US. We didn't have free 412 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 6: trade with other countries. Donald Trump has reset. So yeah, 413 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 6: I mean that and other things I think really point 414 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 6: to as an answer to what you're. 415 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 4: Saying, Jim, I appreciate your time. I could probably go 416 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 4: twenty more minutes. I think this is an intriguing conversation, 417 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 4: but we got some bills to pay, so we got 418 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 4: to go. 419 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 3: Have a great holiday, Jim, we'll talk soon. 420 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 2: You two terns. 421 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 3: All right, don't go anywhere, folks. 422 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 4: America's Voice Live will continue after this break. New York City, 423 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 4: Good afternoon. The Congressional Budget Office estimates the President Trump's 424 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 4: tariffs on imports could reduce the national deficit by about 425 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 4: four trillion dollars over the next ten years. This decline 426 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 4: in the deficit is something that many Americans likely support. 427 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 4: The added revenue from those tariffs could also impact the 428 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 4: interest payments the US. 429 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: Has to make on its debt. 430 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 4: Joining me now to discuss is the man known as 431 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 4: America is a countant. He's also the founder of Geltrude 432 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 4: and Company. Dan Geltrude, Dan, Good. 433 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 3: To see you. 434 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 2: Good to see you, Terrence. 435 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 4: So what is your assessment of President Trump's tariff policy? 436 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 4: Were you always on board or were you a little 437 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 4: skeptical initially? And what are your thoughts now? 438 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 7: Well, I was skeptical, and I'll tell you why is 439 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 7: because when I looked at it and said, all right, 440 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 7: we're gonna put these taxes on products that are coming 441 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 7: into the United States, So aren't the prices then going 442 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 7: to rise and Americans are gonna feel more inflation? That 443 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 7: was my first reaction, and I think that was what 444 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 7: a lot of investors were thinking related to the near term. 445 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 7: But let's really look at what happened here when these 446 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 7: companies are bringing product into the United States. If they 447 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 7: want to retain market share, they're gonna have to be 448 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 7: priced competitively, which means they're gonna have to eat those 449 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 7: costs of those additional tarrant and we are seeing that happen. 450 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 7: That's why we are not seeing the impact that many 451 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 7: had anticipated on inflation. So in that regard, it's working. 452 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 7: And by the way, that's also related to fuel costs 453 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 7: coming down, which was part of President Trump's plan, right, 454 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 7: because if you bring down the cost of fuel, you 455 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 7: are automatically going to bring down the price of products 456 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 7: across the board. Because everything moves from point A to 457 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 7: point B and it needs fuel, those costs come down, 458 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 7: prices should come down. So what we're seeing here is 459 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 7: the net effect, prices for the most part are remaining stable, 460 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 7: and the federal government is now collecting those taxes those 461 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 7: tariffs from these companies that are doing business from outside 462 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 7: the United States. 463 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: So it's working. 464 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 4: And that last point you made, I think is a 465 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 4: critical point because it puts more more money back in 466 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 4: our coffers that we can use to bring down this 467 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 4: major debt that we've got and hopefully even pay off 468 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 4: some of the interest, or at least pay less interest. 469 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 7: So when the CBO broke this down the Congressional Budget 470 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 7: Office over a ten year period, they said, look, we're 471 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 7: going to actually reduce debt by three point three trillion dollars. 472 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 7: On top of that, there's going to be an interest 473 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 7: savings of seven hundred billion. That's what gives us the 474 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 7: four trillion dollar savings over a ten year period. Now, 475 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 7: let's make no mistake, the national debt is an absolute 476 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 7: threat to the security of the United States, no doubt 477 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 7: about it. Because remember, going back to the Cold War 478 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 7: war with the Soviet Union, the reason we won that 479 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 7: war is we bankrupted them. So don't think that it's 480 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 7: not possible for a major world power to have that happen. 481 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 7: So we have to be mindful of this debt. We're 482 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 7: at thirty seven thirty seven trillion dollars and counting. That 483 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 7: is a crazy amount of money that we owe and 484 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 7: we have to start reversing that trend if we want 485 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 7: to be a solvent nation. 486 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 4: And Dan, I've got to be a little cynical. Even 487 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 4: three point three say, let's put it at four trillion 488 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 4: dollars over ten years. That doesn't sound a whole lot 489 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 4: when you're talking about thirty seven trillion in debt. 490 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 7: Well, you're exactly right, and that's what we're saying. We 491 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,479 Speaker 7: have dug a very very deep pull. So you have 492 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 7: to ask the question how do we get here in 493 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 7: the first place, because if you can figure that out, 494 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 7: then you could start working against that problem. 495 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 3: The reason we got. 496 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 7: Here was is that we have had a crazy amount 497 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 7: of spending from both sides of the aisle. Democrats and 498 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 7: Republicans are not exercising the fiscal restraint that we need. 499 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 7: So you have to start. It's somewhere, so we stopped 500 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 7: the bleeding and then we start to make progress. So, yes, 501 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 7: four trillion compared to thirty seven trillion, all right, well 502 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 7: a right around ten percent or so, but it's some 503 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 7: place to start to reverse this terrible trend. 504 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 4: Then we'll have to leave the conversation there. Appreciate your 505 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 4: time once again, folks. We're going to take another quick break, 506 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 4: but we're back momentary, so good to have you along 507 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 4: for America's Voice Live. We appreciate you being here with us. 508 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 4: One of the key aspects that many Americans were concerned 509 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 4: about during the last election cycle was border security and 510 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 4: whether or not the next president would be able to 511 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 4: address the matter. During Joe Biden's term, the border was 512 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 4: seemingly open. Thousands of migrants were crossing with little to 513 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 4: no intervention from border officials. And again those thousands, that's 514 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 4: a daily figure. In addition, Democrat majority cities doubled down 515 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 4: on sanctuary city policies, seeing motels and hotels repurposed for housing. 516 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 3: Units to accommodate illegal aliens. 517 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 4: Upon being elected, though President Trump swiftly got to work 518 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 4: on that issue and turn things around, the administration continues 519 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 4: to tout the fact that border crossings are at the 520 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 4: lowest level they have ever been here to discuss this 521 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 4: with me as a former deputy in charge of the. 522 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 3: Border Patrol, JJ Carroll, JJ, welcome to the show. 523 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 8: Thank you for having me. This is great, unexpected greatness 524 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 8: from Donald Trump, the greatest border president in the history 525 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 8: of the United States America. And I say that from 526 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 8: a guy that's been down there. My last year in 527 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 8: the border as in a borbitral agent, was Joe Biden's 528 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 8: first year in office. So I witnessed the trees and yes, 529 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 8: it was treason what he did to America. 530 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 4: All Right, we're going to delve into the whole idea 531 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 4: of treason and your experiences at border patrolman. But one 532 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 4: of the things that I always like to ask people 533 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 4: who've worked along the border. The thing that we continue 534 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 4: to hear is that ICE agents and other immigration officials 535 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 4: feel like now under President Trump, they can just do 536 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 4: their job. 537 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 3: They're not handcuffed. 538 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 8: Yes, the morale is off the chart because now we're 539 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 8: actually enforcing the law. There was no laws that needed 540 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 8: to be created by Congress. All the laws we needed 541 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 8: are in the Immigration Nationality Act, the INA. All we 542 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 8: really needed was a leader, and we had him from 543 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 8: twenty sixteen to twenty twenty, and then we had a 544 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 8: trader under Joe Biden that destroyed, literally destroyed the border 545 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 8: in our sovereignty of America and should be held accountable, 546 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 8: and I doubt that he ever will be. 547 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 4: Give me some examples of how you see Joe Biden 548 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 4: having been a trader and if he were to be 549 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 4: held accountable. You just made it clear you don't see 550 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 4: that happening. But if he were to be held accountable, 551 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 4: what kind of accountability or what would accountability look. 552 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 8: Like in your eyes? Well, let's define what he did. 553 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 8: What was treason? What is trees? And that's injuring the 554 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 8: United States of America, injuring one's country purposely. So he 555 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 8: did this intentionally, strategically, purposely. Let's make sure we all 556 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 8: have the right numbers that we're dealing with. The United 557 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 8: States Border Patrol arrested almost twelve million people in four 558 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 8: years and released ninety five to ninety seven percent of 559 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 8: everyone another. At least fifteen million illegal ailiens cross the 560 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 8: border undetected and absconded. The federal government admits the three 561 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 8: million they admit. The federal government admits in four years 562 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 8: that they brought in seventeen to eighteen million. Now, if 563 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 8: you believe the government and don't want to believe a 564 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 8: guy that's been there, done it, researched it, wrote books 565 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 8: about it, and want to believe the government, fine, you 566 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 8: can believe the government. Are you okay with eighteen million 567 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 8: people being brought into America illegally and then knowing per 568 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 8: government data that they release two hundred thousand, two hundred 569 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 8: thousand special interest ailiens, those are terrorists into America. That's treason. 570 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 8: What do I want to see? I want to see him. 571 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 8: I want to see Harris and maorc Is brought in 572 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 8: to court. I want them and dieted, and if they're 573 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 8: found guilty in the court of law, then I want 574 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 8: them punishable to the highest level of treason and that's death. 575 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 3: All right. So I listened very well. 576 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 4: You said, if you believe the federal government, which says 577 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 4: to me, you don't necessarily believe the numbers that the 578 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 4: federal government gave out during the Biden administration, do you 579 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 4: even believe them during this particular administration. 580 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 8: I do believe in this administration because I'm not just 581 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 8: going off what the government's saying. I'm verifying from my research, 582 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 8: from my experience talking to the agents. Now, all the 583 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 8: borbitual agents that I talked to from Texas to California 584 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 8: tell me they're bored. There's no one crossing, no one. 585 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 8: This is the best, most secure border in the history 586 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 8: of the United States of America. Even when right before 587 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,959 Speaker 8: I left under Donald Trump, which I experienced as the 588 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 8: greatest border security ever, my buddies now on the border say, 589 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 8: and I've been down there again, said there's no one crossing. 590 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,239 Speaker 8: There's no one here. So I trust the numbers of 591 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 8: what Donald Trump is putting out. He has not released 592 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 8: anyone in the last three to four months into America. 593 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 8: Now everyone's clapping and saying that's a great thing, and 594 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 8: I applaud that is a great thing. 595 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: However, the reason. 596 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 8: Why Donald Trump's border patrol does not release illegal aliens 597 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 8: into America is because it's against the law. You can't 598 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 8: do it in the Immigration Nationality Act. Joe Biden and 599 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 8: my Orcus they just made policy out of whole cloth 600 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 8: and they just released everybody into America. Now, why would 601 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 8: you do that? If you loved America? Why would you 602 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 8: You're showing a picture. I want your audience to understand. 603 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 8: You're coming from Denver. I want you to understand, every 604 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 8: single week in America, Denver's Mile High Stadium was packed 605 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 8: to capacity to seventy five thousand people every single week, 606 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 8: and they were released into America. And that happened week 607 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 8: over week over week for four solid years. 608 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 4: You pose the question rhetorically, but I'm going to ask 609 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 4: you this question directly. So why why did the administration, 610 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 4: in your opinion, allow all of these people into the 611 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 4: United States even though they knew it broke the law. 612 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 8: All we have to do is listen to what they 613 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 8: wanted to do, and they said, we want to fundamentally 614 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 8: transform America. And how are they going to do that 615 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 8: is through absolute massive demographic shift and change. They're not 616 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 8: going to change the way you and me and your 617 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 8: audience is going to believe the First Amendment, Second Amendment. 618 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 8: So what do they do? They need to replace us. 619 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 8: So now we have fifty million illegal aliens in America. 620 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 8: We have fifty five million foreigners in America on visas 621 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 8: and they're overstayed. So what did they want to do? 622 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 8: We have something called the census coming in twenty thirty. 623 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 8: If they're able to count every single illegal alien in America, 624 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 8: they will flip up to sixty to sixty five seats 625 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 8: in the House to Democrats that fast. And that's what 626 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 8: they're doing. They're going to demographically change America. And I 627 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 8: argue anyone, I challenge anyone to argue with me about that. 628 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 8: The numbers do not lie. 629 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 4: Do you fear that four years just isn't long enough 630 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 4: first of all to get all of the illegals who 631 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 4: are here out, but secondly to create a blueprint, to 632 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 4: create a footprint that's going to be lasting and could 633 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 4: withstand even another Democrat administration. 634 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 8: Now, if the Democrats win in the next three years 635 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 8: of presidential and take the House and Senate. 636 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 3: It's over. 637 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 8: They're going to come back and go. They're going to 638 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 8: go full steam. Do I trust that Jade Vance and 639 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 8: Marco Rubio and people like that are going to follow 640 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 8: the suit of Donald Trump. 641 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: I pray they are. 642 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 8: But the question that should be asked is if I 643 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 8: remove Donald Trump right now and he never was the president, 644 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 8: would anything, even one thing on the border or in 645 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 8: the world be changed. And the answer is no, because 646 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 8: no one had the fortitude, the courage, or the strength 647 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 8: to do it like Donald Trump. Do I pray that 648 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 8: Donald Trump has enough time to do it under the 649 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 8: current way he's doing it. For interior arrest, the answer 650 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 8: is no. He's averaging. He being the president is averaging 651 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 8: between one thousand and fifteen hundred arrest and deportations every 652 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 8: single day. 653 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 3: That's not enough. 654 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 8: It is never ever going to scratch a surface of 655 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 8: fifty million illegal aliens in America. 656 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 3: Wow. 657 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 4: JJ Carroll, We appreciate your time and your insight. Good 658 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 4: to talk to you, my friend. Thank you very much. 659 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 3: Thank you. All right, folks, don't go anywhere. We've got 660 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 3: more America's Voice Live coming up after this break. 661 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 4: Our nation's capital here's some great architecture there. Welcome back 662 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 4: to America's Voice Live. We appreciate you being here with us. 663 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 4: Generational gaps are most apparent with smaller things like music, taste, 664 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 4: and fashion. But now the gap specifically between millennials and 665 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 4: so called boomers is the most apparent, as the trends 666 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 4: in the economy make it really hard for millennials to 667 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 4: buy a home compared to baby boomers friends. The trend 668 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 4: sees millennials becoming resentful and leaning towards more socialist ideals. 669 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 4: What's appealing to them is promises of government intervention, especially 670 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 4: when it comes to housing. However, many don't account for 671 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 4: the logistics of implementing socialist based ideals. Here to discuss 672 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 4: is restoring America. Editor at The Washington Examiner Jeremiah Poff. Jeremiah, 673 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 4: welcome to the show. 674 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. 675 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 3: So let's start here. 676 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 4: Does the current generation see the American dream or what 677 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 4: the American dream of the baby boomer generation was as attainable? 678 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 9: I don't think so. I think a lot of young 679 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 9: people are disillusioned. They see what their parents were able 680 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 9: to accomplish, establish roots and buy a home and build 681 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 9: a family, and they find that that's very unreachable for them. 682 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 9: They can't buy a home, even they work hard. They 683 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 9: may work hard and get jobs, but they those jobs 684 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,720 Speaker 9: don't offer the same economic security that they did before. 685 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 9: And I think I think that that's you know, it's 686 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 9: creating a very it's creating a wealth gap between the 687 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 9: older generations and the newer and younger generations. And it's also, 688 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 9: as you said, bringing out a sense of resentment, and 689 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 9: it's making ideas of socialism much more appealing. 690 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 4: We're going to dive into that momentarily, but in general, 691 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 4: what is the American dream then today? For the younger, 692 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 4: younger generation, for the millennials, obviously my generation, the boomers, 693 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 4: it was the proverbial two point two kids, a dog, 694 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 4: a white picket fence in the house. 695 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 9: You know, I think a lot of young people will 696 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 9: still still aspired to that. I think that's you know, 697 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 9: I think you know a lot of people who say 698 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 9: that they want to have children, say, you know, don't 699 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 9: say that they can't afford it, you know, because they 700 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 9: can't buy a house. They can't you know, they have 701 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 9: to buy a used car that breaks down in three years. 702 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 9: And you know, those are all decisions that they have 703 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 9: to make in their with their incomes that are you 704 00:38:55,480 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 9: know proportionally much much go far, don't go nearly as 705 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 9: far as they did, you know, fifty sixty years ago. 706 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 4: So, Jeremiah, how does that get to get us to 707 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 4: a point where we're seeing more young people who really 708 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 4: kind of aspire to an espouse socialist ideas well? 709 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 9: If you if the system as it stands is not 710 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 9: currently working for you, capitalism, right, you know, we support 711 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 9: the free market, we want to see it thrive. But 712 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 9: if that system is not working for you, you're going 713 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 9: to start thinking that. 714 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 2: It's a system's fault. 715 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 3: Okay. 716 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 9: And it's not just it's not just individuals that are 717 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 9: having this experience. It's large numbers of people who do 718 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 9: hold you know, what we would think of as decently 719 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 9: paying jobs, but they go into you know, places like 720 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,760 Speaker 9: where I live in Washington, in the Washington, DC area, 721 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 9: or in New York City or or you know, or 722 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 9: Los Angeles, places that used to be eat you know, 723 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 9: people could buy a house there and live on a 724 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 9: middle class income, and they just simply can't do that anymore. 725 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 9: I mean, a studio flat in New York is going 726 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 9: to set you back three four thousand dollars month. 727 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 3: That's not a. 728 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:07,959 Speaker 9: Sustainable model for building wealth for anyone. And it's why 729 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 9: young people are so drawn to the ideas of people 730 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 9: like Zoron Mamdani who say, you know, the system screwed you. 731 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 9: The corporations and the business of billionaires, they're all they're 732 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 9: all out to get you, and you know what, we're 733 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,320 Speaker 9: going to screw them back. That's really appealing. 734 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 4: Okay, So what needs to happen then in your mind 735 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 4: in order to shift the pendulum back to the right 736 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 4: or even closer to the center. 737 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 9: You know, I think the first thing is that we 738 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 9: just have to be more adamant about building and expanding 739 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 9: the housing supply. You know, housing is one of the 740 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 9: most one of the ways that people owning your house 741 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 9: is how you are able to have tangible economic results. 742 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 9: People who own their homes are much more likely to 743 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 9: be content with their economic situation because it gives them 744 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 9: a tangible asset that they can point to and say, 745 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 9: I bought that, and I own it and no one 746 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 9: can take it for me. And when you have you know, 747 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 9: older generations that bought their houses for you know, a 748 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 9: one hundred thousand dollars, you know, thirty years ago, you know, 749 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 9: the same house today would sell for four to five 750 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,399 Speaker 9: times that much, which is far out pacing the rate 751 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 9: of inflation. And that's you know, if we can get 752 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 9: back to a point where you can actually buy a 753 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 9: home on a single income and support a family on 754 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 9: that income, I think that would go a long way 755 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 9: to making sure to bringing the wealth gap back into 756 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 9: into a manageable means that won't where socialism won't be 757 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 9: so appealing. 758 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 3: Despite what you've described. 759 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 4: Is there a sense within your generation, and I'm assuming 760 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,359 Speaker 4: you're fairly young, you look at you look good, But 761 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 4: is there a sense within the millennial generation, within the 762 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 4: younger generation of hope? Is there a sense that, Okay, 763 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 4: it's going to be okay. Times might be difficult right now, 764 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 4: times might not necessarily be beneficial, but eventually things will 765 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 4: work out for me. 766 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 9: You know, I think generally those who have that attitude, 767 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 9: like myself, tend to be a lot more religious than 768 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,399 Speaker 9: most of the other people in my generation. But by 769 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 9: and large, I think there's a lot there's a lot 770 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 9: of nihilism among young people, you know, that there's just 771 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 9: no way that this is going to work out that 772 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 9: this is the way things are now. And you know, 773 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 9: when it comes to politics, that has effects where the 774 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 9: guy who's going to break the system is going to 775 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,919 Speaker 9: be a lot more you know, interesting than the guy 776 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,240 Speaker 9: who's going to keep the status quo. And I think Trump, 777 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 9: you know, President Trump, for a lot of what he's 778 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 9: been able to do is been able to tap into 779 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 9: that that feeling and I think, you know, give an 780 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 9: actual solution that people might be able to focus on 781 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 9: because they want to see they want to be able 782 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 9: to be successful. 783 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 3: In their lives. 784 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and the economy is starting to look a lot 785 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 4: better under President Trump, so hopefully there will be some 786 00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 4: more hope and optimism within the millennial generation and younger generations. Jeremiah, 787 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,479 Speaker 4: we appreciate your time. Thanks so much for being you much. 788 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,839 Speaker 4: It's a pleasure. Enjoy your day, all right, folks, don't 789 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 4: go anywhere. We'll have more America's Voice Life coming up. 790 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:24,240 Speaker 4: Right after this brink We're back with our daily segment, 791 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,720 Speaker 4: What Makes America Wonderful. Today's story comes to us from Manchester, Missouri, 792 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 4: where a lost wedding ring was returned and restored hope 793 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 4: for the family that it belonged to Cal, Blank always 794 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 4: had the habit of looking down in an effort to 795 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 4: spot and collect trinkets, and this time was no different, 796 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 4: as he had found a shiny object in a shopping 797 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 4: cart at the local Costco. Cal pocketed the ring without 798 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 4: thinking much about it, but it was his mother, doctor 799 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 4: Kelly Blank, who called the store to report what her 800 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 4: son had found, and after the store manager confirmed the 801 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 4: ring was reported missing, the Blanks were determined to personally 802 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,800 Speaker 4: deliver the ring back to its owner. 803 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 3: The ring ended up belonging to a May and Alan Pratzel. 804 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 4: May had recently undergone surgery which made her lose a 805 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 4: lot of weight, and as a result, the ring that 806 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 4: had once fits snugly was now loose, and that explains 807 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 4: how she lost it in the first place. 808 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,399 Speaker 3: Well, Cal wrapped the ring up. 809 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 4: He even took the initiative to polish it, making the 810 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 4: return just that much more special. Additionally, the Blanks and 811 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 4: Pratzels were more connected than was initially thought, as a 812 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 4: granddaughter of the Pratzels attends the same school as Cal's sister, 813 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 4: and Alan had professional ties to Cal's father. Honesty is 814 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 4: a virtue not practiced by many, and Cal's heartwarming gesture 815 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,879 Speaker 4: reminds us of just what makes America wonderful. Well, that's 816 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 4: going to do it for the show today. As always, 817 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 4: we appreciate you being along for the ride. Enjoy the 818 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 4: rest of your labor day, and make sure to join 819 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 4: us again tomorrow, same time, same place. We'll see you then.