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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode A point Game with Isaiah Thomas

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Speaker 1: and CJ Toldano. I'm of course your host, CJ Toldano,

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Speaker 1: and I'm joined here by the man.

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Speaker 2: Everyone is here to see it. Isaiah Thomas. It how

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Speaker 2: you feeling, man, Man.

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Speaker 3: I'm good. Always good to be back with you.

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Speaker 1: Found.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you know, just being here talking hoops, good vibes,

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Speaker 4: good energy.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to say, like, I've been doing

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Speaker 1: this podcasting game for a little bit in basketball, and

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Speaker 1: it's an incredible opportunity to be potting with you. But

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Speaker 1: like I just want to say, like you've only done

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Speaker 1: one episode, and you said you're a rookie, but you're

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Speaker 1: already showing off veteran vibes just even like on social

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Speaker 1: and stuff like sharing the clips, getting the stuff out

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Speaker 1: there to the people, Like I've got nothing, but my

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Speaker 1: dms are full of just people like loving the pot

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Speaker 1: already only had one episode, So what's your feeling like

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Speaker 1: after one episode and seeing everything come out and get

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Speaker 1: to the people.

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Speaker 3: I'm just excited.

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Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing is just you know, talking

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Speaker 4: the game of basketball at the level we're talking to.

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Speaker 4: I am a rookie in this space. But when it

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Speaker 4: comes to talking basketball, I'm able to you know, just

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Speaker 4: be able to communicate what we're speaking about and go

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Speaker 4: from there. But I was excited about the feedback as well.

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Speaker 4: I was getting a lot of d ms. Everybody excited

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Speaker 4: about me being able to talk the game on this platform.

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Speaker 3: Is only going to be, you know, great for the fans.

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Speaker 4: We just need everybody to tune in, tap in every

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Speaker 4: week and we're gonna get it right to you.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get some exclusive content, all that stuff going.

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Speaker 1: So this is just the beginning, So I'm excited. I

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Speaker 1: did want to start off this episode on a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a somber note. We talked on the last

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Speaker 1: episode that you from Seattle, you live in Seattle, still

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Speaker 1: Seattle basketball legend Lenny Wilkins passed away sadly, and you

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Speaker 1: I'd love to just spend the.

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Speaker 2: Show right up top here sort of, you know, discussing.

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Speaker 1: The connection you had with him, and also just I

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Speaker 2: But I would just love to hear.

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Speaker 1: From your mouth, like why he was so important and

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Speaker 4: First off, my condolences to the family. My thoughts and

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Speaker 4: prayers are out to the family. Lenny was not only

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Speaker 4: And he's a lefty like myself, so somebody I definitely

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Speaker 4: able to I guess somewhat mentored me throughout those times

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Speaker 3: Forever. Be grateful for the relationship I had with.

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Speaker 4: Him, and to be able to just interact with him

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Speaker 1: Man, you mentioned you dub and him calling your games,

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Speaker 1: Were there any specific stories or like just to get

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Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing with him being you know,

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Speaker 4: The biggest thing he gave me was like just believing yourself.

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Speaker 4: I know that sounds so cliche, but like what got

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Speaker 4: Like obviously I always believe myself before a guy of

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Speaker 1: I think you're right you talked in the last episode

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Speaker 1: like that that connection has continued to run deeper ifan

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Speaker 2: So that's great.

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Speaker 1: And again just to any young hooper watching this, like

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Speaker 1: I you know, when when this news happened, I was like,

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Speaker 2: But his track record was crazy.

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Speaker 1: I just wrote some of them down here, Like he

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Speaker 4: That just that just says the type of person he is.

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Speaker 4: Everybody had the ultimate respect for him, not just only

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Speaker 2: Kids. You got the YouTube, you got you got the internet.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to Point Game. I t we

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Speaker 2: And that's your ultimate goal. So uh we posted that

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Speaker 1: So I loved reading the comments of people tagging all

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Speaker 1: So I would just love to hear from from your

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Speaker 2: Yeah, be like pacers.

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Speaker 3: But there's a lot this out there. We ain't gonna

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Speaker 4: So I'm right here, baby, I'm right here, with no

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Speaker 3: And they know that though they know that.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's very nice to you to say,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to hear what that G league experience is.

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Speaker 1: It's like you've like the closest evidence that you can

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Speaker 4: The biggest thing, like the forties, that's just who I am.

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Speaker 4: The people who are watching know that I really haven't

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Speaker 4: Now that the two way contractors came in, it's kind

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Speaker 4: We cannot give him too much, especially if it's a

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Speaker 3: And you know, I'm not hurt by it. I understand it.

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Speaker 4: But I do know the guys that are my age,

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Speaker 3: So it's it's a.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I love that you mentioned, you know, like the two

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Speaker 4: A call, I think early on in guy's career, when

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Speaker 4: It's probably a lot more difficult for me. My family's

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Speaker 4: ten day. I think it gives my family opportunity to

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Speaker 4: Because that's the you know, that's the situation I'm in

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Speaker 4: I think that would have been a situation where they

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Speaker 3: Each and every day. This ain't that situation.

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Speaker 4: It's me staying ready as I can, stay in shape,

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Speaker 2: That was my big break in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Great organization, great city that is rich in basketball, history.

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Speaker 4: they're a young and an up and coming team. I

440
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Speaker 4: think they got that pedigree the old Detroit Detroit Pistons

441
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Speaker 4: had to where they're a physical, feisty team that's not

442
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Speaker 4: backing down from anybody. I think that starts with the

443
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 4: head of the snake, and that's Kate Cunningham.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we just watching him, like you see,

445
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 1: he's sixty six point guard. He can obviously score, but

446
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,199
Speaker 1: he's averaging almost ten assists a game right now. And

447
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,640
Speaker 1: if you have a guy like that's that's a guy

448
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 1: that's a franchise player right there, you know. And then

449
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,919
Speaker 1: like I said, like watching Social or like looking at

450
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,639
Speaker 1: Social and watching highlights and stuff, these aren't guys around

451
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Speaker 1: them that are like you know, getting top ten dunks

452
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 1: or whatever, ankle breakers. It's just it's solid role players

453
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 1: got a star, Thompson, Jalen Duran, they picked up Duncan Robinson,

454
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Speaker 1: all these guys, And I guess what I'm sort of

455
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 1: teeing up here is, you know, are these teams with

456
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Speaker 1: the older superstars, like.

457
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Speaker 2: Are they are they as much contenders as they used

458
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Speaker 2: to be?

459
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Speaker 1: Or is it all about kind of getting like that

460
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Speaker 1: one guy and really building a deep roster that can

461
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Speaker 1: you know, I guess, like sort of survive a playoff run.

462
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Speaker 1: Like what's your sort of viewpoint of like what the

463
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Speaker 1: new NBA and the team that can contend?

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Speaker 2: What does that look like? Is it the Detroit Pistons.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a little bit of both, Like his

466
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Speaker 4: development is drafting is obviously signing key free agents. So

467
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Speaker 4: it's a little mixture of all of those things. And

468
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Speaker 4: I think those dynamics change with the with with each team,

469
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Speaker 4: like Detroit obviously through the draft they've been They've been

470
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Speaker 4: amazing with Kad, with Ivy, with Ashure Thompson, a guy

471
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Speaker 4: that I watched when he played at Ote in high

472
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Speaker 4: school and I was able to commentate his games when

473
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 4: I was doing that when him and his brother was

474
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Speaker 4: out there putting on shows. So I think they're just

475
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Speaker 4: doing it the right way. This isn't the formula for

476
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Speaker 4: every team. I think okay See is another team that's

477
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Speaker 4: worked their way through the draft and obviously had some

478
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Speaker 4: good trades with s G A and was able to

479
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Speaker 4: find guys that fit around him.

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Speaker 3: I think the Detroit Pistons are doing that to a t.

481
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Speaker 4: They're finding the right guys that are gonna fit around Kid,

482
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Speaker 4: and they're moving forward with that Duncan Robinson, who is

483
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Speaker 4: a shooter who spaces the floor for a guy like

484
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Speaker 4: Kid who goes downhill and gets in the paint and

485
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Speaker 4: scores that will. So I think they're they're they're they're

486
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Speaker 4: signing and they're getting complimentary players for their main guys.

487
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Speaker 3: And then you gotta you can't forget.

488
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Speaker 4: A guy like Isaiah Stewart, like a guy like Duran

489
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Speaker 4: those are forces that protect guys like Ky Cunningham. Those

490
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Speaker 4: are guys that you know you go in to pay

491
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Speaker 4: and you think twice. And I think it dates back

492
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Speaker 4: to having guys like Rashie Wallace, having guys like Ben Wallace,

493
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Speaker 4: like those type of guys that are physical and you

494
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Speaker 4: know they got a culture over there, and like I said,

495
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Speaker 4: you got to give a big shout out to Treasure

496
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Speaker 4: Langdon You got to give a big shout out to

497
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Speaker 4: their front office, like it seems like they're doing all

498
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Speaker 4: the right things over there to start the season off

499
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Speaker 4: the way they have.

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Speaker 2: And not to you know, advertise too much.

501
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Speaker 1: But it's that slow grind like building building slowly, you know,

502
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: of like you don't need to go and chase give

503
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Speaker 1: up all your pieces that are working for that one superstar.

504
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Speaker 2: So it's been fun.

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Speaker 1: It's been fun, honestly to watch this East be open

506
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Speaker 1: and the team sort of shift to the top. And

507
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Speaker 1: I do want to sort of shift gears a little

508
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Speaker 1: bit to another Eastern Conference team. Not too much basketball,

509
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Speaker 1: but there's a bit of a beef going on that

510
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: I would love to hear your take on. But you know,

511
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: the Pacers had made a run to the finals, obviously

512
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 1: with their squad last year, Tyrese got hurt and so

513
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: people were kind of considering an off year and in

514
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Speaker 1: the offseason they were unable to sign Miles Turner as

515
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Speaker 1: he decided to go sign over with the Bucks.

516
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: Obviously. We saw the.

517
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Speaker 1: Bucks play in Indiana recently and during the tribute video,

518
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Speaker 1: they booed Miles let's be the rest of the books,

519
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Speaker 1: and then there's been some jabs back and forth over

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Speaker 1: social media, like what do you what do you take

521
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Speaker 1: in this whole situation with if you were a Miles shoot, Like,

522
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Speaker 1: how would you do that?

523
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Speaker 2: Do you understand some of what he's going through and

524
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Speaker 2: how he's reacting.

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Speaker 3: I understand it.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand the booze though, Like I get it

527
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Speaker 4: as a I get it as a fan, like you

528
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Speaker 4: don't want your players to leave and go to another team,

529
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Speaker 4: especially in the same conference, So I understand that, but

530
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Speaker 4: like show your appreciation for what he's done for that

531
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Speaker 4: organization over the however many years he was there. But

532
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 4: I think Miles Turner is doing it to himself too,

533
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 4: like he's he sneaked this in at times, like he's

534
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Speaker 4: he's not being the one that's just doing everything right

535
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 4: and they're just picking on them.

536
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Speaker 3: So I think it's a tell of both sides.

537
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Speaker 4: But I have been in those those shoes before, and

538
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 4: I think Miles Turner's like as a human and a

539
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 4: human feelings, you feel a way as well, So like

540
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 4: it's two sides to it. But yeah, it's it's a

541
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Speaker 4: tough situation. I think fans are just really upset. You

542
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Speaker 4: go to the finals, then you leave a team that

543
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Speaker 4: you compete it against all year in the last few

544
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Speaker 4: years at that. So I think after that situation, I.

545
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Speaker 3: Think they're both gonna move on.

546
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Speaker 4: Every time he goes to Indiana, they might boo here

547
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 4: and there, but I think they really have love and

548
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 4: support for Miles Turner.

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Speaker 3: It's just they gotta do that. As a fan.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you, have you ever been booting

551
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Speaker 1: an arena and had you overcome?

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Speaker 2: Have you ever been a villain? Which is definitely not

553
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: anything would ever think of you, But have you ever

554
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Speaker 2: been a villain?

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00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 3: I haven't been a villain. No, I haven't.

556
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Speaker 4: I've always liked the fans for the most part, kind

557
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 4: of kind of always showed some love. Like there's been

558
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Speaker 4: times like when I was in Cleveland, I wasn't playing well.

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Speaker 3: They booed a little bit.

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Speaker 4: They boo when I played for the Cows, but I

561
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 4: was hurt, so I understood it. I didn't take it

562
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Speaker 4: personal because you're not booing when I'm one hundred percent,

563
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 4: there's no way so and then I'm just I interact

564
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Speaker 4: with the fans and that that part of the game.

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Speaker 3: So I haven't been booed.

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Speaker 4: I remember early on in my career, I played for

567
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Speaker 4: the Kings and we played in Madison Square Garden. They

568
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 4: booed me because of my name. They didn't like the

569
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Speaker 4: older Isaiah Thomas. So every time I touched the ball,

570
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Speaker 4: especially my first time, I was like, they was boring me.

571
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Speaker 3: I was like, what did I do?

572
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Speaker 4: And then I go to the bench they say, oh,

573
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Speaker 4: they're boring you because your name. I'm like, oh, I

574
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 4: get it because it's crazy. Like a quick story, I

575
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 4: was in prep school in Connecticut. My friend Jamal Crawford

576
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 4: was on the Knicks. So when I had open weekends

577
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 4: in prep school I would take a train to New

578
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 4: York and go to the Knicks games or stay at

579
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 4: Jamal's house. And I'm sixteen seventeen at this point and

580
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 4: Isaiah Thomas is the coach. So it was that year

581
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 4: when you would go to the games and they would

582
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 4: just bow Isaiah Thomas the whole the whole season. They

583
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 4: wanted them fired. The fans didn't like them. And so

584
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 4: fast forward when I was on the Kings. My first time,

585
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,479
Speaker 4: I remember touching the ball and they just they just

586
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 4: booing me right, And then I remember walking by Spike

587
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 4: Lee and he's like, you know, we got to do

588
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 4: it to you.

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00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: It's just your name. It's all good. And it just

590
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 3: that was crazy.

591
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 4: Spike Lee even knew who I was and mentioned me,

592
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 4: and it was it was definitely a little joke. But

593
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 4: they just don't like that name around there, so I

594
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 4: was definitely smiling.

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Speaker 3: I remember after the game my mom calling me. She

596
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 3: was mad. She was like, why are they boring you?

597
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 3: I was like, you got to just relaxed. It's just

598
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: the name, that's all. So, yeah, it's semi you and

599
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 3: my dad's fault, but it's all good.

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00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just take it because everybody don't get booed

601
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 4: in Madison Square gardens, So I'm gonna just you know,

602
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take that one to the chin.

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00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 3: I was.

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00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: I mean, man, that's another impressive thing. Like you had

605
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: that pressure on you from birth to be named Isaiah Thomas.

606
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 1: And I know You've been asked this a million times,

607
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: but I guess, just like, what how much did that

608
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: affect you growing up? And was it a pretty quick

609
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: switch of just like it's it's my name, I spell

610
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: it differently, but like, yeah, what was that like growing

611
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: up with that name it was.

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00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 3: It wasn't bad.

613
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 4: Like obviously, if when I would say my name, people

614
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 4: especially older people, would be like, are you his son?

615
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 4: Are you named after him? Things like that. But I

616
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 4: loved the game of basketball so much. Early on, all

617
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 4: I knew was basketball, So it was kind of like

618
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 4: when my name was Isaiah Thomas, I wasn't.

619
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Speaker 3: Really tripping on it.

620
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 4: It's just when I got older and say, like especially

621
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 4: like when I first got in the league, when I'm

622
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 4: calling a restaurant and trying to get a you know,

623
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 4: a reservation or anything like that, everybody always thought I

624
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 4: was the older Isaiah Thomas.

625
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 3: In two I was.

626
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 4: Able to solidify who I was as a basketball player,

627
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 4: and you know, my career, then the flip, the switch

628
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 4: started to flip for me where they kind of knew

629
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 4: who I was. In case, it was like somebody a

630
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 4: lot older, They're always thinking it's the older Isaiah Thomas.

631
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 4: And you know, to piggyback on that is like when

632
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 4: I got to college, I started to build a relationship

633
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,479
Speaker 4: with Isaiah Thomas. So it was like super cool to

634
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 4: be able to pick up the phone.

635
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 3: To call Isaiah.

636
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 4: And he's always been since college, he's been a big

637
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 4: mentor of mine. So it's super cool to be named

638
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 4: after such a legend as somebody who paved a way

639
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 4: for myself.

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Speaker 3: Love that.

641
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: I'm glad we got that that story on the record.

642
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Speaker 2: Here for the pod.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna get through some more where we'll do

644
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Speaker 1: a rapid fire a new segment for a final segment

645
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: here on point game called restricted Area. When we come

646
00:29:53,880 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: back on point game for Center by Draft Games all right,

647
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: Time for our Draft Kings King of the Court segment

648
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: where you pick who will lead the league in total points,

649
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: rebounds and assists on Tuesday Night, and if you get

650
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: it right, you can split a million bucks. So this week,

651
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: I think I'm liking Sja at home against the Warriors,

652
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: But of course you can watch out for Jalen Brown and.

653
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: Tyrese Maxey in that Celtic Sixers game.

654
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Speaker 4: It Who are you thinking, I'm gonna go with two

655
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 4: of my former teams. I'm gonna go with the Sacramento

656
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 4: Kings versus the Denver Nuggets. And you know, anytime you

657
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 4: gotta go with the Denver Nuggets, you're gonna go with

658
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 4: Joker because he's gonna dominate the whole game. Rebounds, points, assists,

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to point game.

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Speaker 1: We're debuting a new segment here with Isaiah where it's

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Speaker 1: called restricted area. I'm going to bring up a hot

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Speaker 1: topic or something that just broke or happened in the NBA,

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Speaker 1: and then Isaiah has the option to either discuss it

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Speaker 1: and break it down, or he could be like, no,

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Speaker 1: let's keep it moving.

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Speaker 2: That's restricted area. We're not going there.

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Speaker 1: But I have a feeling he's been an answering everything

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Speaker 1: open book here, So we're going to go through this.

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Speaker 1: I'll bring up a story in it. You let me

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Speaker 1: know you ready, got you? Got you all right? So

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Speaker 1: this was all over the feed yesterday. DeAndre Hunter on

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Speaker 1: the Calves had an insane ankle breaker and I'm saying

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Speaker 1: ankle breaker on Josh Giddy because it hurt Josh Gitty

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Speaker 1: Hunter works?

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Speaker 2: Whoa Jiddy?

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Speaker 3: Hold home? Hi? Right? Real mood? Why?

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Speaker 2: DeAndre Hunter as he buckled Giddy and roars of the

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Speaker 2: whole had the Poles need the time out.

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Speaker 1: Oh Mersey, he was limping off the court and apparently

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Speaker 1: he's listed at day to day so restricted area or

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Speaker 1: do you want to break this down?

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Speaker 4: Now, we're gonna break this down because unfortunately he got hurt. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but as a hooper, that that that whole that whole

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Speaker 4: possession was crazy.

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Speaker 3: The move by.

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Speaker 4: Hunter was amazing. It was definitely surprising. I don't even

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Speaker 4: know he had that in his game. So the timing

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Speaker 4: of it was just bad for Giddy. And then Hunter

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Speaker 4: goes in bangs on him and he might have got

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Speaker 4: fouled on the dunk too, which is crazy, but but

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Speaker 4: that was luckily, like more plays come throughout the next

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Speaker 4: few days and you can like shuffle that to the back.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Giddy.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully he's doing his rehab and getting some treatment. Hopefully

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Speaker 4: he's you know, he's first and foremost he's healthy and okay.

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Speaker 4: But man, that was a bad That was a bad

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Speaker 4: possession to be a part of. Shout out to hundred though.

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Speaker 2: Man, that was sick. But also guy's having a good

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Speaker 2: season start to the season two.

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Speaker 4: But let me ask you, Giddy and the Bulls are

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Speaker 4: having a good start to their season, So shout out

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Speaker 4: to Giddy.

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Speaker 1: As a I don't know, we've never seen it, I

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Speaker 1: don't think. But being a recipient of a of an

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Speaker 1: ankle breaker or a crossover, what what's like the etiquette afterwards?

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Speaker 1: How do you like actually recover? And I guess the

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Speaker 1: most adequate, adequate way possible.

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Speaker 4: It's funny because like I've never been I've been crossed over,

733
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Speaker 4: I never failed or anything like that. Yeah, but I

734
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Speaker 4: was having a talk with my team this week and

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Speaker 4: my AAU team Slow Grind Eleague, my son's eighth grade team,

736
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Speaker 4: and somebody got dropped, right, So you know, especially in grade,

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Speaker 4: like in around that age, if somebody get dropped, it's

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Speaker 4: so embarrassing to where you might not get up because

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Speaker 4: you don't want to look bad.

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Speaker 3: I had a real talk with them.

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Speaker 4: I said, as we get older and you play against

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Speaker 4: high level players, somebody's going to get crossed, somebody's going

743
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Speaker 4: to get dropped where you sit down, somebody's gonna get

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Speaker 4: dunk done, and you're going to feel like it's the

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Speaker 4: most embarrassing thing. But as you play against high level players,

746
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Speaker 4: that's going to happen, like it's inevitable.

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Speaker 3: It's going to happen.

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Speaker 4: The best thing to do is get up, move on,

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Speaker 4: try to do something at the other end. So in

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Speaker 4: the NBA that happens on a day to day basis,

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Speaker 4: the best thing to do is keep it pushing, like,

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Speaker 4: get up, figure it out, go on the other end,

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Speaker 4: try to make something happen and move on. Because everybody's

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Speaker 4: seen it, so it's like it's not like you can

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Speaker 4: take it away.

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Speaker 3: So I always tell, especially young.

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Speaker 4: Kids, it's like the best, the better players you play against,

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Speaker 4: that's gonna happen. But to answer your question, the reason

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Speaker 4: why you never seen it on me, I've never been dropped.

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Speaker 4: I've never been dunck on. There's a picture of me

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Speaker 4: going up against Lebron. It looks like I'm about to

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Speaker 4: get dunked on. My kids clowned about that too, but

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Speaker 4: I found him and he missed the layup, so the

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Speaker 4: poster looks like he's gonna turn it on me, but

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Speaker 4: he never did. And I don't think I'm ever gonna

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Speaker 4: be the guy that gets ducked done just because and

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Speaker 4: if you ever dunk on me, it's like you're supposed to.

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Speaker 3: I'm five nine, so I'm not tripping. I'm not tripping

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Speaker 3: at all.

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Speaker 1: I remember speaking of Lebron because I was a big

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Speaker 1: Bulls fan.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 1: I was living in Chicago during those like Bulls heat,

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Speaker 1: those Bulls heat serious les and I remember John Lucas

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Speaker 1: he had that one.

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Speaker 3: Oh choked over him.

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Speaker 2: But you know, shout out to guys like you.

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Speaker 1: The fact that you even contest that is like you

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Speaker 1: know you could like that just was it was.

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Speaker 3: It was a frustrating play.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't the smart play for me to do, but

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Speaker 4: I did it anyway, just out of frustration. And luckily,

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Speaker 4: like I was like this for the basketball guys, thank you,

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Speaker 4: thank you for not putting me on a poster.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna show We're gonna bring up the video and

786
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Speaker 1: we'll show people that it's not a posters a lot.

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Speaker 3: To bring out the video.

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Speaker 4: You could show the picture at first, because the picture's

789
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Speaker 4: gonna look like it because even my kids, my kids

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Speaker 4: would make fun of me, like dang you got it's

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00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 4: like nah, my brother, I did not get dunk young

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Speaker 4: he I fouled him and he missed the layupat So.

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Speaker 2: This is why it's great to have an editing team.

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Speaker 2: Our editing team will.

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Speaker 4: Get to work and you'll show it to make me

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Speaker 4: look good, all right.

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Speaker 1: Next one, so brandon Ingram frustrated, he threw a water

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Speaker 1: bottle down the sideline that bouncing it hit a staff.

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Speaker 3: All right, watch out incoming well Ingram upset.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're cleaning up the floor over there.

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Speaker 2: So you want to break this down or is this

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Speaker 2: restricted area?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: It down too, because that's obviously frustration is going to happen.

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Speaker 4: That's gonna be, that's gonna be, that's gonna happen throughout

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Speaker 4: the game.

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Speaker 3: B I man, be, I's my guy. I hope you gave.

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Speaker 4: That that attendant, that that locker room attendant, that ball boy.

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Speaker 3: I hope you gave him about five.

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Speaker 4: Hundred dollars or something for that, because I was embarrassing

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Speaker 4: and that was not cool.

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Speaker 3: He's just in there doing his job.

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Speaker 4: I know you're frustrated, and I think he got water

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Speaker 4: on his teammate too, So it's like, you gotta be

815
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 4: a little better than that. So I know, be I

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure he apologized, gave the guy you know

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Speaker 4: some probably some a little bit of bread, and they

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Speaker 4: moved on.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful. Okay, this next one.

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Speaker 1: I love your take on this, but Bradley Beal, who

821
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: we all know who watched the game, he didn't really

822
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Speaker 1: have much of a successful stint over with the Sons.

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Speaker 3: He went on.

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Speaker 1: Recording quote he said, I wasn't Bradley Beal. I was

825
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Speaker 1: asked to play like someone else. So someone who's been

826
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Speaker 1: over with the Sons, I would love to hear what

827
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Speaker 1: you think about that quote.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's just right, like he was

829
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Speaker 4: definitely asked to do stuff he normally doesn't do, and

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Speaker 4: especially coming from the Wizards where he was averaging whatever

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Speaker 4: he was averaging, being one of the top guys in

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Speaker 4: the league in terms of putting the ball in the

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Speaker 4: basket and making plays, and from experience and being there

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Speaker 4: with Phoenix, I mean, he wasn't asked to do those

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Speaker 4: things that you know, he's been doing his whole career,

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Speaker 4: and just knowing that situation, that type of team, Yes,

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Speaker 4: everybody's going to have to sacrifice and take a back

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Speaker 4: seat into, you know, the things that they're used to doing.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think.

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Speaker 4: He was put in position to be Bradley Beal, and

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Speaker 4: I think he states it, and I think it's been

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Speaker 4: known in the media, especially like last year with you know,

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Speaker 4: coach Budenhauser, like there was a conversation of him asking

844
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Speaker 4: him to do other things other than what you know

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Speaker 4: he's special at doing. So that's always hard to do,

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Speaker 4: especially if you're still around your prime and in the

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Speaker 4: same age and you feel like you can do those things.

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Speaker 4: It's hard to take a step back, and not just

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Speaker 4: a step back, but just to like be a shell

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Speaker 4: of yourself, be the defender, get guys involved, and when

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Speaker 4: you haven't really done that at a.

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Speaker 3: High level for most of your career.

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Speaker 4: So hopefully you know this year with him being on

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Speaker 4: the Clippers, you know, they could showcase him in the

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Speaker 4: way he wants to be showcased, knowing.

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Speaker 3: That he still has to sacrifice.

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Speaker 4: But I think Bradley will adjust and he'll figure it

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Speaker 4: out nice.

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Speaker 1: Okay, moving on to Okay, so you being a dad,

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Speaker 1: would love your take on this as well. So Kaya

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Speaker 1: and Anthony over at Syracuse Carmelo Anthony's son, who I

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Speaker 1: think for a lot, you know, the clips come out

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Speaker 1: of Oh he's dunking or he's working out with Chris

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Speaker 1: Brickley or whatever, and he's never going to be as

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Speaker 1: good as his as his dad, and then he decides

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Speaker 1: to go over to Syracuse, people are like, Oh, it's

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Speaker 1: all nepotism and whatnot. But he just started in his

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Speaker 1: first college start with Syracuse dropped nineteen nineteen points, foist

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Speaker 1: and three rebounds. So restricted area or do you want

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Speaker 1: to break this down about the pressures of Kayne Anthony

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Speaker 1: and what he's he's already starting.

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Speaker 2: To do with rest Eracuse.

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Speaker 4: No, Usually when we're gonna talk, nothing is going to

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Speaker 4: go to the restricted area.

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Speaker 3: We are I'm gonna find one.

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Speaker 4: But kay Kaye Anthony is is amazing young talent. I

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Speaker 4: think for guys like himself, Lebron Jameson, even like Michael

878
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 4: Jordan's kids at one point, like those Hall of Fame guys,

879
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 4: I think the kids are always going to be in

880
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 4: lose lose situations for people from the outside looking in.

881
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 4: I don't think there's no pressure in kaya Kayae. Anthony's

882
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 4: in himself.

883
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: He's being a kid.

884
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 4: He's going to the school his dad went to. He

885
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 4: knows he's really good at basketball. I think the opportunity

886
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 4: is going to present himself to show that he's really

887
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 4: good at basketball. I think that the outside pressure is

888
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 4: what what what there is with the media him betting

889
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 4: being compared to his dad. Let him follow his own footsteps,

890
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 4: Like let him Like you're talking about him being compared

891
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 4: to a Hall of Fame basketball player, Like how many

892
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 4: Hall of Famers are in the world today, Like there's

893
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 4: not a lot, Like how.

894
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: Many are in the Hall of Fame?

895
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 4: So why would we have to compare a eighteen or

896
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 4: nineteen year old kid to a Hall of famer just

897
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 4: because he's his dad.

898
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: So I like to break it down like that.

899
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 4: I think the kid from the outside looking in is

900
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 4: going to lose, lose, but for him himself, and even

901
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 4: like my kids, I don't think there's no pressure. There's

902
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 4: pressure on the pressure you put on yourself. There's no

903
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 4: pressure in our family, in our household, like we ain't

904
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 4: asking you to be me. I know Carmelo isn't action,

905
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 4: it's signed to be him. I know Lebron isn't action,

906
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 4: it's signed to be him. So that's just outside pressure.

907
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 4: I think he's being a kid. He's enjoying the experience.

908
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 4: He's going to showcase his skill at a high level,

909
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 4: and the game is going to dictate where he goes.

910
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 4: Like if he does all the right things, he's going

911
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 4: to be an NBA player, he's going to be a pro.

912
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 4: He's going to have a hell of her career because

913
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 4: he's really talented and he seems like.

914
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: A good kid.

915
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:09,959
Speaker 4: So that goes for all you know, professional sports kids. Like, yes,

916
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 4: you're going to be compared to the father or to

917
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 4: the to the mother, But like that's only from the

918
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 4: outside looking in in terms of those types of pressures.

919
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Speaker 2: I like that.

920
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, I just hate the nepotism thing

921
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: about NBA basketball, about basketball in general. It's like they

922
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: they could, yeah, say nepotism existed, and they get it

923
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: put on these rosters these teams, Like nepotism doesn't allow

924
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: them to score nineteen points, you know, for like in

925
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 1: high level D one basketball or at Browny of like

926
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 1: maybe he got drafted because of Lebron, but he's still

927
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: playing minutes in the second season with the Lakers, and

928
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: the Lakers are at the top, you know, one of.

929
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: The top two teams in the West.

930
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: So like I think it's you know, these guys still

931
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 1: got to play basketball. And I think that's great advice

932
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: that you had said, Like remember you just love playing

933
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: the game.

934
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: You get out there and you.

935
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Speaker 4: Hoop exactly and like the nepotism thing, like that's happening

936
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Speaker 4: in all walks of life, first ormost and I bet

937
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 4: if anybody was in those positions, say Lebron did get

938
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 4: his son drafted. We ain't saying he did because that's

939
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 4: hard to do, but say he did, who.

940
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 3: Else wouldn't do that? Exactly? Yeah, I bet one.

941
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 4: Hundred percent of each parent would be able to try

942
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 4: to put their kid in a position to be successful

943
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 4: in whatever field that they want to do if they

944
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 4: can help. But yeah, the nepotism thing is like, man,

945
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 4: he's going out there putting his hard hat on each

946
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 4: and every day and working for his opportunity. And if

947
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 4: he gets the opportunity and takes advantage of it, like

948
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 4: you got to give give you give your hat off

949
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 4: to the kid, not the father or not the parent.

950
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 4: It's like the kid is putting the work in each

951
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 4: and in the every day. The parent is not there

952
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 4: at the gym looking at him like, oh, we got

953
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 4: to do this. It's like it's the kid's time to

954
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 4: take to take the reins on the situation.

955
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Speaker 3: I think they're doing the hell of a job with it.

956
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: That's dope. I'm excited to watch them all right.

957
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: That's been restricted area and this has been another episode

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Speaker 1: of Point Game with Isaiah Thompson's toldo, I t any

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Speaker 1: parting words in this episode.

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Speaker 4: Man, tap in with us, subscribe with us. We're gonna

961
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 4: be bringing the heat to every episode and I'm getting

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Speaker 4: a little more comfortable, So don't don't allow me to

963
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 4: get comfortable in this space. Man, we're gonna be talking

964
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 4: about everything. I'm like I said from the jump, I'm

965
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 4: super excited. I appreciate you, I appreciate.

966
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Speaker 3: The team, and let's keep building on this.

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Speaker 1: Yup and the Rolodex. You open up the Rolodex to

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Speaker 1: all your your friends. We've got some big guests coming.

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Speaker 1: That's all awesome.

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Speaker 3: We got some We got some exciting guests coming.

971
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