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Speaker 1: It's a big day. We've sang our guests song in

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Speaker 3: This is and we're not like big dogging in front

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Speaker 1: Is our first time we've seen our award twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Four Webby Award winner Best Podcast Individual Episodes Comedy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is really good. So we were we were

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Speaker 1: thinking that maybe our guests could present us with the award. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you give us our Webby Award.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course what's a Webby.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so much award is if you do anything on

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Speaker 2: You can get nominated for a Webby.

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Speaker 1: Anyone with any online activity is sort of up for this. Wow,

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Speaker 2: Congratulations, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: The twenty twenty four Webby Award winner goes to Matt

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Speaker 2: Rogers and Bowie to get this from Tate McCray. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: you guys just want to thank Tate McCray for gifting

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Speaker 3: We're in, the so close to what we're in, the

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Speaker 3: mispossessive era, misposinessive tour.

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Speaker 2: Era as it were, And we've been in the era.

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Speaker 1: We've been in the era Okay.

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Speaker 3: I think by the time this episode comes out, we

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Speaker 3: comes out February twenty. First hitting tour.

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Speaker 1: Starts March eighteenth, even the season tour, PISCE season tour.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right after we got to talk.

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Speaker 1: About your your signs and please, we got to talk

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Speaker 2: There's there's, there's three, we bring out the tarot cards.

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Speaker 3: She is someone who we've spoken up about on this podcast.

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Speaker 3: Is an equally balanced three header just three hyphen it.

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Speaker 3: I guess it's two hyphens, but it's three tight singer, songwriter, dancer,

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Speaker 1: She's truly incredible. The album hadn't come out. I think

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Speaker 1: I'd heard Greedy obviously had heard you Broke Me first.

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Speaker 2: I'm an asthma legend. Yeah, that's a crazy asthma legends.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, you embrace it?

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Speaker 2: I do embrace it, thank you. Yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: You've had to embrace it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I think you wrote me first changed like

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Speaker 2: I think it unlocked a lot from me. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: I was hearing Kelly singing. I was like, well, these

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Speaker 1: It's like it's kind of like complicated. So just songwriting

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think my my real fans know that. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: I'm singing this whole shah.

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Speaker 2: I've been singing, and someone they just like they only

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Speaker 2: You don't know, you don't know the whole picture. I think.

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Speaker 3: I think the rollout for this album has been like

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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Do you have a car? Thing?

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Speaker 2: It was mostly just because I feel like the album

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Speaker 2: And then sports car has happened to be the car.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay you literally you're saying tour felt never ending?

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Speaker 1: You just finished? Yeah, you're you're about to go back?

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Speaker 2: is also my first time doing arenas, yeah, which has

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00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 2: been like a lifelong dream of mine. So I'm very

443
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 2: like excited for that. That have to be It's like

444
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 2: feels like a new chapter. I also, as a dancer,

445
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 2: I feel like you are just used to just say

446
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:41,160
Speaker 2: never stopping.

447
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 1: Oh so yeah, the pace of life is is it

448
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,120
Speaker 1: will be daunting for anyone, but it's something that you're

449
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 1: accustomed to. Yeah, I think so as a dnswer because

450
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 1: the ballet training is like you might as well be

451
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 1: living in like a nunnery.

452
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 2: That's yeah.

453
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:57,360
Speaker 1: Discipline it is.

454
00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 2: It's crazy. It's exhausting, honestly that about ballerinas. I think

455
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 2: I have like one of the hardest jobs in the world. Right, Yeah,

456
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 2: this is easier to sometimes being a pop star feels

457
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,679
Speaker 2: a little easier in some way, like a little bit

458
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 2: like a little more relaxing.

459
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 1: Do you find that you can connect with like other

460
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 1: pop girls, like because I would have like because it

461
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 1: sounds like of course for fans being like, oh, like

462
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 1: they think about the pop girly thing and like, you know,

463
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,439
Speaker 1: there's that discussion obviously about like Charlie and Lord and

464
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 1: like them bridging the gap and everything. How have you

465
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 1: felt it's been like entering that lexicon of people, you

466
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like pop girls, I feel like

467
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 1: there's like support and it's cool.

468
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we luckily, I think right now, are

469
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 2: in a time of just like there's so much hate

470
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 2: on the internet and so much hate in the world

471
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 2: that like, internally, it's just like very supportive, the most supportive,

472
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 2: and all we want to do is see each other

473
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 2: when yeah, like all my friends and I we just

474
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 2: have very wholesome relationships. Anytime we hang out. It's just

475
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 2: very very wholesome. I think that's very lucky right now

476
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 2: because it is like we all know how much we

477
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 2: get like beat up on the internet, So it's like

478
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 2: nice to have friends that like are.

479
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 1: Actually real demonic outside of your.

480
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 2: We're like knit. Like it's literally like very sweet because the.

481
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 3: Only thing you guys have in common is that you

482
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 3: are getting insane energy from the internet.

483
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 1: That is the only thing you guys. But because of

484
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: them in that circumstance, you know what I mean, Like

485
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: that is like that's the thing.

486
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It is weird. It is weird because

487
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 2: sometimes like you're just like I just started writing for

488
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 2: fun and then.

489
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it becomes this fucking thing.

490
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 2: It becomes huge, like whoa, Like you don't expect to

491
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 2: get We know that you're like meant to be judged

492
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 2: and music is subjective, but you never expect like the

493
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 2: personal attacks that breaks out, Like you're like, oh, this

494
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 2: is a huge deal for no reason. Rites and that

495
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 2: is crazy.

496
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Speaker 1: Was Amy Allen?

497
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Speaker 2: She was?

498
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: She was She was on Think Later too, or you

499
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: guys were working together even before that.

500
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I started working with her on Think Later and

501
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 2: this album.

502
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: And this album.

503
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 3: I feel like she's getting this like shine now because

504
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 3: of the Grammy. Yeah, you just want and like like

505
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 3: working through you and like sabrin it. It's like talk

506
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 3: about that process because it seems like you two are

507
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 3: very keyed into each other in terms of like the

508
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 3: work ethic.

509
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Amy Allen is one of the most

510
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 2: talented songwriters I've ever met in my life. She's so incredible,

511
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 2: such a badass girl. I worked with her and Julia

512
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 2: Michael's a lot on this album. I think it's just interesting,

513
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 2: like no one understands a girl perspective quite like another girl.

514
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 2: So like you can like have other producers in the room,

515
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 2: but it's just like she gets it. Like I can

516
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 2: kind of just like say this is happening with my

517
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 2: boyfriend em and she'll be like, oh my god, exactly

518
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: the same and it's easier.

519
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 1: To like put in towards yeah, totally, but it is.

520
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: It's very inspiring. We have two different like processes in

521
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 2: songwriting and obviously different perspective is because we're just have

522
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 2: grown up differently. So it's it's been really fun. I

523
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 2: just feel like I get new knowledge every time I

524
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: work with her.

525
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 1: So when you guys are together, is it like she

526
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: hops on keys and like what is it?

527
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 2: Like? What M say?

528
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: No, I'm literally like sometimes when I see these people,

529
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: like I just wonder, like who actually plays in the room?

530
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 2: You know?

531
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: I mean the process to me is what's so interesting?

532
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 2: Okay, Well it kind of depends. So if I'm in

533
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 2: the studio alone and I'm just writing on my own,

534
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 2: someone will play chords or whatever, and I'll like sit

535
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: in the corner for like a couple hours, right, go

536
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: into the studio track and that's it. If I'm with

537
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 2: like a co writer like an Amy or Julia or Ryan,

538
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 2: usually will start a beat or whatever. We'll kind of

539
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: get like the vibe for the song. Then we'll discuss

540
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 2: what the song is about. I see, you need to

541
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: be on the same page, right, You're working towards the

542
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 2: same goal, right, And then it usually just becomes like this,

543
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 2: like you find the magic at some point of what

544
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: the song is and what you both relate on and

545
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: then you kind of just like spit back and forth.

546
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 2: It's like different lyrics back and forth and until the

547
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: song is like built.

548
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: But a lot of times that like starting with a

549
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: beat in a track and then like a feeling develops

550
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 1: around it for sure. Yeah, yeah cool.

551
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 3: Is there a preference on a style? Is it like

552
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 3: is solo? Because speaking this is not quite the same thing.

553
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 3: Like I always prefer writing with people. Yeah, when it

554
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 3: comes to like you know, comedy or scripts or whatever.

555
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 3: It's like I've learned to like not feel so bad

556
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 3: about like, oh I don't do so well.

557
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 2: On my own.

558
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: But do you have one preference?

559
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: It's honestly just different like you other people have different strengths.

560
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: Like Ryan Teddor is so good at a pop chorus,

561
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: like and that is his strength. So I'm just like god,

562
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 2: if I'm yeah, like if I want to walk into

563
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: a room and I want to write a pop song

564
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 2: like Ryan Amy, those are like pop choruses that like

565
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 2: usually write the first thing they sing is like feels

566
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: really good. But if I'm writing something that I feel like,

567
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 2: is it hard to communicate? Like sometimes I feel like

568
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: I can't really have a hard time discussing my emotions totally,

569
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 2: so explaining it to someone is really even more complicated.

570
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 2: So what I do is I need to be alone.

571
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 2: I need to like have my subconscious thoughts like spit

572
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 2: it out for me, and then I can like find

573
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 2: perspective on the situation the relationship because I just really

574
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: am not great at communicating and that's like why I

575
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: started writing in the first place. But if I have

576
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: like a concept it's less deep, deep deep in the

577
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: back of your head, then it's it's fine with another person.

578
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, because either way, you're just making sense of what

579
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 3: the song is about, whether it's just you needing to

580
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 3: like spill it out, like spill for a couple hours,

581
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 3: or that you're like reconvening with Ryan and Amy and

582
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 3: Julia to be like, what is this going to be? Yeah,

583
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 3: it's the same destination.

584
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of times where concepts are really

585
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: obvious and they're like, oh, this is what I need

586
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: to write about whatever. And then there's a lot of

587
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: times where you can only fine perspective at the end

588
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: of the process because then you figure out what you

589
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 2: actually meant, and that just takes a lot of digging,

590
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 2: like and that's where I need to be alone. But

591
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 2: but like if it is an obvious like concept and

592
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: it it's just like a something that is happening in

593
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: my everyday life. There's some things that are sometimes like

594
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 2: buried so deep that you're just like, I don't even

595
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: know where this came from.

596
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: What's an example of an obvious concept on the album?

597
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 2: I would say an obvious concept like a song called Signs.

598
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 2: I love Favorites. Signs is like the most obvious because

599
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, can you please fucking read my mind?

600
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: Like you need to just like do better.

601
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: You need to be able to read me if this

602
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: is going to move forward, I shouldn't have to do anything.

603
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: Literally, you should just know. You should know already. So

604
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: this was me and Amy walking in. It was a

605
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 2: five minute combo being like literally read my mind, and

606
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 2: then we started writing the song. So that was very obvious. Yes,

607
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: quick conversation, nothing too deep. I would say a song

608
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 2: like Purple lce Bram Yeah, took a second to Like.

609
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: It was me writing some concepts on my own and

610
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 2: then came into the room and I cracked it with

611
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: Amy because I had an idea and she helped me,

612
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: like shape it a little yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

613
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 2: So that one was like a little less obvious.

614
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: So just like connect all this to when you were younger,

615
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: because like songwriter is something you find out of like

616
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: the camera, break camera, but before that, like you're doing

617
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: dance and we'll ask you like the central question of

618
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: the podcast in a second. But I just wonder, like

619
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: as someone who was around you know, girls doing dance

620
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: contests all the time, and like that was such a

621
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: fun thing that we all did with each other as kids,

622
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: Like did you have a long period of dance being

623
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: really fun for you before it became like a job,

624
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: and if so, or if not, how did you find

625
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: the fun in it?

626
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: Again, I've always just been obsessed with dance.

627
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got like it's too much on the schedule,

628
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: Like I'm hating dance right now.

629
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: It's not really. It only started to get ugly at

630
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: like age sixteen seventeen, where I was like I want

631
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: to go to high school. I hear and I want

632
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: to be a kid. And I remember feeling that was

633
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: like I want to go to school with my brother.

634
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: I want to go to a party. Yeah, I wanted

635
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 2: do alcohol. I want to like it was just like

636
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: that feeling of like I need to be normal.

637
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: Right, and yet you have this extraordinary gift and opportunity.

638
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like it was a catch shooting two

639
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: because I felt like the coolest I ever felt was

640
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: when I was like in my element, Like I didn't

641
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: feel like cool in school or like my personality always

642
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: felt like a little awkward. And so I was like, oh,

643
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: I'll feel myself when I am in my art and

644
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: in my craft, and that's when people will like fully

645
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: understand me. So it was weird because then I went

646
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: to high school and I was like, oh my god,

647
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: like now I've even more feelings because I feel so

648
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: out of place. Yeah, and it was like not at

649
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: ballet school anymore. And so then it drove me after

650
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: that to like, you know, I think, really get into

651
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: it again, like so to go.

652
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: Back to it, yeah, because high school is a fucking beast. Yeah,

653
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: I still think looking back, it was the hardest time. Yeah,

654
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: And they they really tried to make you think this

655
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: is the best four years ever. You're always gonna want

656
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: to be You couldn't pay me to go back. No, No,

657
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: I felt the same. High school was interesting.

658
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 3: Calgary High School was interesting, like what's the vibe in

659
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 3: Calgary High School?

660
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: Probably the same ke No, Honestly, it was like it

661
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: was like normal. It was just like the.

662
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: Vibe okay, because I grew up in first a quick

663
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 3: little second, I grew up in Brastward in Quebec. Oh whoa, okay,

664
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 3: and maybe it's a French Canadian thing, but it's like

665
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 3: it always seemed a little bit ironically. It seemed a

666
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 3: little bit grittier, okay, like more in your face. But

667
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: that's maybe the French, the French Canada thing.

668
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: Like probably Calgary, I don't know, but Calgary feels like

669
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: it's like it's not it's not BC.

670
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: It's like it feels like for real Canadian. It's like Canada.

671
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It is the streets, the

672
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: streets in Canada.

673
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, one Street so okay. So but it just it

674
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: was rough.

675
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 3: It was just hard. It was it made you feel

676
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: like it made us feel like crazy.

677
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah it didn't. It does didn't make me feel a

678
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: little crazy because I was just like, oh, I feel

679
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: really out of place, and I I feel so I thought,

680
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: I like overthought and over analyzed myself before this. Now

681
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: I'm like my personality is like the biggest problem in

682
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: the world.

683
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: So would you say, like, did that be the songwriting

684
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: at all?

685
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? So that that's when I like really started. So,

686
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: I mean I loved writing since I was a little kid.

687
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: I'd write short stories and poems all the time. But

688
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: that's when I really started to get into a songwriting

689
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: because I felt so fucking crazy and I was just like,

690
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: people need to understand me.

691
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: It's like the second or third time you've said that

692
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: it's about being understood. It's not about being like impress

693
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: or anything, which I think is so interesting because your

694
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: skills are so impressive. But it's not about that. It's

695
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: about more you getting yourself across and being understood for sure.

696
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 2: That's what it has always been for me. Is just

697
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: like literally not being able to explain myself and then

698
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: being able to explain myself fully through dance and singing

699
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: and feeling so seen exactly how I want. Yeah, that's weird.

700
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: You feel like when you listen to your albums, like,

701
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: is that the number one thing you want? Is like

702
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: I feel like I got myself across there, like or

703
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: what is it that's the goal?

704
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: I think it's hard to do that because sometimes you're

705
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: so locked in a bubble that of perfecting songs that

706
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: you're just like, WHOA, what was that? Yeah, But that's

707
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: I think, at the end of the day, the goal

708
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: out of about every album.

709
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: I think last time we were like, I have a

710
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 3: harder time writing from a place of like joy and

711
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 3: happiness because I is that so true?

712
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think.

713
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 3: I asked that in such a crazy way. I'm just saying, like,

714
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 3: because you do write in this place like I need

715
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 3: to get these emotions out, I need to process in

716
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: this way. And totally I don't need to process happiness

717
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 3: because I'm feeling happy.

718
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: It's hard to be driven to express.

719
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: You know, I am. I think I'm a pretty happy person.

720
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: Like I asked that in such a crazy way, I'm saying, no, No,

721
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: it was.

722
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: A great way. I mean, it's exactly what it is.

723
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm a very normally happy and like

724
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: stable person, but then there's like one little hole instead

725
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: of me that's so fucking sad. Yeah, And I don't

726
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: know what that is, and it's just like that's what

727
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: I write from.

728
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: Do you get closer to figuring it out?

729
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: Like is it? Like?

730
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: What is it?

731
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: Is it?

732
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: Men?

733
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 5: Well, it's not now the answer is always yes, yes, no,

734
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 5: I really don't know what it is.

735
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: It's always like it's been since I was like a

736
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: little little kid. It may be because I'm a cancer yeah,

737
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: okay Scorpio Okay, yeah, what I know more about Piscis

738
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: than I do Scorpio.

739
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: Scorpio is the dark piss whoa And I say that

740
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: and and and like all positive ways, Like Scorpio has

741
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: the edge that Pisces can't muster up. And I feel

742
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: that way about cancer too.

743
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: That we don't have the edge.

744
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you have cancer queens.

745
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 2: Right, we're like a little spicy but really sense it's protective, right, like,

746
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: so that's the hard shell, whereas like Scorpio, that's it's

747
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: more of the stinger, you know what I mean. It's

748
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: like Scorpio.

749
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: Don't cross because I mean I always say about him,

750
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't suffer fools, right, Whereas I'm like I I

751
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: will give everyone of the benefit of the doubt until

752
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: and blame myself until I'm a puddle. Right.

753
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: But cancer and pieces get along really well, same with Scorpios.

754
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: We're worthy three water signs. Yeah cool, we all belong

755
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 1: to splashing around together in those and we can protect

756
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 1: each other but also open each other up.

757
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.

758
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I feel like when you do write from

759
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: a place of joy and happiness, it like it is

760
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: a huge sort of success because is like two hands.

761
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: I feel like it's so joyful.

762
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah it is. Well, I think then that clicks into

763
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: my like performer side. Yeah, it feels like my alter

764
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: ego feels like my side on tour, feels like the

765
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: mode that isn't my like sensitive self is like what

766
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: I turn on when it's time to perform. Yes, and

767
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: that's if I'm going to write that kind of song,

768
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: I have to be in that headspace.

769
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: So my question is, like when when you are like

770
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: creating a record that like pretty much already beforehand because

771
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: you've had such huge success on streaming and radio and everything,

772
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: and you're such an exciting artist and you're creating a

773
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: new album, is there the pressure every time to go

774
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: in there and like write a hit or is it

775
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: more just about like today we're writing a single, or

776
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: like today we're right, we're trying to fill out like

777
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: something that I want to explore. Like, I guess how

778
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: intentional is the process of writing something that's meant to catch.

779
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 2: I mean, it's so hard because I try not to

780
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: approach it that way because you just want to like

781
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 2: go in and experiment for like months, and there hits

782
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: a point where your labels like okay, experimentation is done,

783
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: where's the single? And then it becomes really fucking stressful

784
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: because then then you're just like, oh my god, what's

785
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 2: the song? And this is where I become the most

786
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 2: indecisive person. Of course, like my team like wants to

787
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: shoot me when I'm picking a single because I can't

788
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: decide and I can't hurt.

789
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: But it's crazy like that they do turn to you

790
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: and then they're like I even for me and my

791
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: like comedy album, Like they turned to me and they

792
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: were like, so, what's the single? And I was like, oh,

793
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: I was supposed to pick. I feel like isn't that

794
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: Don't you feel like it's kind of nice that it's

795
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: your responsibility, but also you're.

796
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: Like, oh god, you see it. It's like you can

797
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: see your own work when you're in the middle of

798
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: creating it, like yeah, so many words and jumbles and

799
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: you're like hearing yourself talk and sing back. That's like

800
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: you can't pick right, you.

801
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: Can't pick it's also like such a ready made rag

802
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: from the fan community, like, oh, she picked the wrong

803
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: you know. We we as like people that talk about

804
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: pop culture like all the time, like we're guilty of it,

805
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: like you, I mean, like when our fave like in retrospect,

806
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 1: like clearly should have picked something else as the first single.

807
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: It's like you know you you're like it's like a thing,

808
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: but it's not as easy as it's so.

809
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 2: It's a special skill and I don't have it. Really

810
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: cannot make a single. It's so not obvious to me.

811
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: It also sounds the same.

812
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: But that shouldn't be part of your job.

813
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: No, but literally that sucks. It is literally part of

814
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: my job and very important.

815
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, how have you felt about the singles this this

816
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: go around? Like are you excited about the ones you picked?

817
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so. Yeah, I think everything happens for

818
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: a reason. Yeah, what's the reason? The reason is like

819
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 2: I think you can always have doubts about songs, not

820
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: like things about some songs, like things about other songs

821
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: and wish The worst part is like you love things

822
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 2: and then it's like the week to release. You know,

823
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: this is the worst fucking song I've ever heard in

824
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: my life.

825
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: Because you've listened to it too much at that.

826
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: Point, yes, and now you're just like processing it too much.

827
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 2: But I think Single Type for a reason. I think

828
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: they've like they make sense and the album will make

829
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: it all come together. Yeah.

830
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite song off the album? Like,

831
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 1: what's the one you can't wait for everyone.

832
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 2: To get to? Okay, I'm excited for Blood on my Hands. Yeah,

833
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 2: And I'm excited for Like I Do because I feel

834
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 2: like it's a little different.

835
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: Like I Do is great flow Millie I've loved forever.

836
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's great. She's got like she does sound great.

837
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: I've just also never done a song like that with

838
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: a rapper, right.

839
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: It's your first time with like a hip hop feature.

840
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: Oh great, I know it's fun major.

841
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I want to shout out green Light because

842
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: the bridge on that there's is it a vocal effect

843
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: because there's like.

844
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: A like you know what I'm talking about?

845
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, seck, thank you green Light too.

846
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: I think that was another one of our favorites. Shout

847
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: it out.

848
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 2: Green Light was one that I wrote on my own

849
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: that was a hidden one where I was like, I

850
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: don't know how I feel right now in this relationship,

851
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: and not in not in a bad way, not in

852
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 2: like I don't know how I feel. It was more

853
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 2: or less just being like what am I feeling? And

854
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: what I had felt was I was like still hurt

855
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: from a past relationship. Yeah, and then I was like, fuck,

856
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm like waiting at it a green

857
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: light and I literally just can't press the gas. And

858
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: I thought that was such a weird feeling, and that

859
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 2: was like the road metaphor, But that one was that

860
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: almost funch right. I like that one too.

861
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: It's like there's wow, there's like the poetry in that

862
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: is like huge, thank you. Yeah. I feel that way

863
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: so many times. Yeah, it's just it's hard to believe

864
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: in yourself, Like it's hard to believe that you're like, yeah,

865
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: sure you're giving me the go ahead, but is it

866
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: gonna be worth it once you like really get on

867
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 1: the ride with me. Totally's and it's scary of course.

868
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also you just like can't unhear or undo

869
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: things that have happened to you in the past. Care

870
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 2: just stuck with you like you are now just a

871
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: reflection of your past, and you have to learn how

872
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 2: to like have a better experience and overshadow that, or

873
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: you know, fall in love again and feel the good

874
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 2: things again, but you have to like jump off first

875
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: before you fall in love.

876
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: I think the scary thing is it's like when you

877
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: see how much you can give and how much it

878
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: can go away, it's like, why would you ever do

879
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: that again?

880
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 2: I know?

881
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: And also knowing that the people who give you the

882
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: most also you lose the most from them because they

883
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: gave the most.

884
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: It's so weird, like you never do this with friendships

885
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: things in life where you are the closest person and

886
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: then it's all of a sudden, just like nothing.

887
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, like that is so shocking to them. Death, Like

888
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 5: it isn't death, that's heartbreak is so awful. Yeah, there's

889
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 5: like I was talking about this the other day and

890
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 5: I was just like, that was one of the worst

891
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 5: feelings ever. Like any type of heartbreaks, You're just like,

892
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 5: what is this? I shouldn't care this much? But I

893
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 5: care so much.

894
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 1: You care so much because also it's because because it's

895
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: not actually a death, then people come in with their

896
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: opinions on like you know, how much what you should

897
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: be doing to get over it? How much time is okay?

898
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: But it's literally grief. It is the loss of a person,

899
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: and you wouldn't talk about someone's grief about an actual

900
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: like loss to death in that way. So I don't

901
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: think people should necessarily be judging it, like, yeah, every

902
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: time I think of myself in my past being like girl,

903
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: come on, move on, like you know what it is,

904
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: it's like now that I've been through stuff like you can't.

905
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 3: You can't I've ever got into like the it takes

906
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 3: this long to get over something, what do they.

907
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: Say, like half the duration of what it was.

908
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: It's like, really, it's just wrong.

909
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: And don't listen to people who tell you that.

910
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: I agree.

911
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 1: Okay, So it's time for us to ask the question

912
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: that we ask of all of our guests. This is

913
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: Tate McCray. What was the culture that made you?

914
00:41:59,239 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 2: Say?

915
00:41:59,520 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: Culture?

916
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: For you?

917
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: This is when you can pinpoint. I think I started

918
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: to become myself when that moment of pop culture like entered.

919
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: Okay. I've thought long and hard about this because I'm

920
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: really not like that into pop culture, like any culture, Okay,

921
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: but I will say like one moment, I was like

922
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: a big Disney Channel kid girl, and I really do

923
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: think that that shaped my personality, and I remember that

924
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: Hannah Montana was life changing for sure, just like me

925
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 2: being like, well I have to become a pop girl now. Yeah,

926
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 2: I have no other option, Like I have to become

927
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: a pop star now, because that is so sick. I

928
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 2: love a place, I like it. I love a place

929
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: where I can put that version of me.

930
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, she kind of was doing what you talked about,

931
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: which is like I do want to be a kid,

932
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: but also I know I'm a star and that's how

933
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: they'll understand me totally.

934
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, that's how I kind of felt like

935
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: in high school, Like not to that extent, of course,

936
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: but like a little bit.

937
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 3: Did that open up a country music for you too

938
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 3: in a way or no, Like did.

939
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: It make me want to do country music?

940
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 3: Or just liked to give you an appreciation, like you're

941
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 3: like Billy Ray, Like who's this man?

942
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: This man doing country?

943
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: You know what I can too, because Calgary for some

944
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: reason is kind of country. Like we have like this

945
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 2: one month in the summertime where literally the whole place

946
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: is like haystacks, cowboy hats only country music. Isn't there

947
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: a festival? Yeah stampede? Yeah, so weird, like it's just

948
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: for one month, like awesome. The whole town goes like

949
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: this ghoest country, straight country, there's whatever. So I'm like

950
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 2: actually into country music. Yeah, but I did feel that

951
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: like coming home, like when Miley would come home and

952
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: she'd sing the climb and she takes off at just

953
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: me like yeah, I just like remember being like this

954
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 2: is going to be me one day, like but literally

955
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 2: look yeah right?

956
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: Was it also a little bit like seeing Mile and

957
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: also seeing her as someone that was because I would

958
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: imagine that it's like the Disney star thing looms so

959
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: much around the Disney Channel and like kind of Montana.

960
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: It's like you see kids that are your age or

961
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: kids that you can identify with, like in the industry,

962
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: proving that it's somehow possible.

963
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think that was really shoved in our

964
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: faces at that age of like Disney Channel was glamorizing

965
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 2: pop stars every show like camp Rock even like that

966
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: was our era. Yeah, like oh my god, they were

967
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 2: using yes yes exactly, just being like whoa, like this

968
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: is legit?

969
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 1: Like yeah you want to yes?

970
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: Right. I just remember that feeling like this is the ship.

971
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 2: This is the only thing in life is music.

972
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 3: Miley and Hannah are like the Locust and does it

973
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 3: then bring in like Selena and z and Dane r

974
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 3: And Yeah, I think that's.

975
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: The whole lore. I think that's what I wish I

976
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: could like go back and be like, oh, it was

977
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 2: an earlier pinpoint, but really it was Disney Channel.

978
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: That was one.

979
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: It like my brain was forming and I was that

980
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 2: was I was watching that every day being like Alex

981
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 2: and was what really places my personality is my life

982
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna go do camp Rock with Joe Jonas

983
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: Like that was like, this is going to be my life.

984
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's powerful, right, that's like, No, I'm by the way,

985
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 3: did we get Disney Channel in Canada?

986
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

987
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: When I grew up there, it was like why TV was?

988
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: You didn't get it? Oh? Y TV is uh.

989
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: Like a Whit was like Canada' Nickelodeon.

990
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: We had. My family had Disney Chow. He didn't.

991
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 3: You didn't have cap I don't even have cable, but

992
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 3: like go to school and you would stay after school

993
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 3: and would watch y TV. And there was a show

994
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 3: called oh like you get.

995
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: TV? Yeah?

996
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: No, we we had different versions of it. Can I

997
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: tell you what? You would have been absolutely obsessed with

998
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: because we're obviously the same age. You would have rowed

999
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: so hard for Lizzie McGuire, I know, I know, I

1000
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: know I would have.

1001
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1002
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lizzie McGuire was she was everything.

1003
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was, she was sleep over.

1004
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: Were in the fifth grade. It was all boys, mind

1005
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 3: you okay, And for some reason it was like midnight,

1006
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: one of the boys, straight as an arrow, allegedly decides

1007
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 3: to put on Lizzay maguire the movie or the just

1008
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 3: the show, and then it's all of these boys talking

1009
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 3: about how hot Hillary Duff is. Yeah, and I was

1010
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 3: just like, but she's being funny.

1011
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: You can't see her talent. I can't like, but she's

1012
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: so but first and foremost, she's a talent. And they

1013
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, but all these guys are like yanking it.

1014
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 1: It's so weird to think about the concept of teen idol,

1015
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: because that's essentially what that is. It's like all the

1016
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: girls wanting to like, for example, someone like Hillary Duff.

1017
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 1: She's so famous at a time when everyone is going

1018
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: through puberty.

1019
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 2: Yes, that's weird. I know, it is weird. That's crazy.

1020
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: It is crazy. The very formative years in your life.

1021
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember my friend, my friend, my friend, my

1022
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: friend's older brother.

1023
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 2: How did a life size cut out of Hillary Duff?

1024
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: And I was now looking back, I'm like, what happened?

1025
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 2: There no red flag? But then it's like it's.

1026
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: I was so into her music too, right, Come Clean?

1027
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: I still think Come.

1028
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: Clean it's one of the great songs, the club remix

1029
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: of that. So we're just seeing the talent.

1030
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 3: We're just seeing literally, Okay, how did you meet current boyfriend?

1031
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: How did I meet current boyfriend? I have known him

1032
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 2: for three years, We've been friends, and it wasn't until

1033
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 2: last year. I was in Cabo and he happened to

1034
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 2: be in Cabo at the same time. And we have

1035
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,959
Speaker 2: never had one good interaction. We're in the same friend group,

1036
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: so we have the same like and we hang out

1037
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: all the time, and we had never had one non

1038
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: awkward experience like romance kind of like a little bit.

1039
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: He's like, we weren't enemies. I'm like, yes, we were,

1040
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 2: Like Wow, we just had this feeling where like every

1041
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 2: time we would say something to each other, it was

1042
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: just like not what we planned to say, Like the

1043
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: most social suicide moments of all time, Like I would

1044
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: trip every time I see him. I like try to

1045
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 2: dap him up. I'm like, why the fuck did I

1046
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 2: just dap him up? So weird? Anyone else? Literally, I'm

1047
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: like what was that? Like? I was so out of character.

1048
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 2: And I remember he used to be like why do

1049
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 2: I Why do these friends like liked Tate? And I'd

1050
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 2: be like, why did my friends like Leroy? And how

1051
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: do we all get along? And then Klo came.

1052
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: You just happen to be in cop at the same time.

1053
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing, And he texted me and he was

1054
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 2: like are you here and I was like yes, and then.

1055
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: We got together. He's great on the album too.

1056
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so great. Thank you.

1057
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say, do you think, looking back now,

1058
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: you like it was a subconscious you liked him the

1059
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: whole time?

1060
00:48:52,000 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 2: No? I think I'm so about personality, Like, yeah, if

1061
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 2: we have like a funny connection or like you like

1062
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: get me, that's when I'll really get a crush on someone. Okay,

1063
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 2: it's never from like first glance.

1064
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, like ever, and so she like got you eventually, Yeah.

1065
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: Because we actually had good conversations that trip and like, yeah,

1066
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 2: it felt like we finally clicked, we finally got each other.

1067
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 3: Was this after SNL yes, okay, because I remember at

1068
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 3: sn out the after but do you remember this. You

1069
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 3: and I were like in the room trying to like

1070
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 3: scope out. You were like, oh.

1071
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: That's so fun. I was like, I was like, well

1072
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: that was really a nice single era.

1073
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of eligible bachelors around there.

1074
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 3: What I told you it was, I don't think there

1075
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 3: are a lot.

1076
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was sitting beside some people and I was like,

1077
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: we are not hitting it off.

1078
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 1: Like one of one of my favorite stories is it

1079
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: was like SNL after party. It was the Lizzo episode.

1080
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: And remember this. We were all at the after party

1081
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: and Lizzo came in ready to party. She came she

1082
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: had changed her dress, she came in ready to sligh.

1083
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: Twenty minutes later she leaves going guests not the party

1084
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 1: was dead. But sometimes alchemy just doesn't happening.

1085
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 2: Again, I've heard it's like can be the craziest thing

1086
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 2: on Earth. That night, it was like it was like

1087
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: mid level your words.

1088
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, sure, it's like any party. It's like

1089
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 1: if there's if there's an alchemy, there's an alchemy.

1090
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 2: Totally. Yeah.

1091
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: I can't speak ill of the S and L after

1092
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 3: party because it's you know this hallowed thing.

1093
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: You were you were supposed to come with the Birds

1094
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: of View on the actual eligible guys there, but apparently

1095
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: and I pitched a few, but I was like, but no,

1096
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: like they weren't working, they weren't working something special. And

1097
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 1: then look now now you're with Yeah, but that was tough.

1098
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: I really don't like looking for guys like it's.

1099
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: So it's the worst. You would rather be.

1100
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: Pursued much rather much rather it be like natural, like

1101
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: it just happens. Yeah, totally like friends to lovers. I'm

1102
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: like that that vibe, but.

1103
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: That's that's the Royd Away.

1104
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: That was that vibe for sure, which felt way more

1105
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 2: natural totally. I'm not like a big like like flirt

1106
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 2: up frontway like that's not me. So the on stage,

1107
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 2: it is so funny. The tate on stage is like

1108
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 2: so polar opposite to my actual personality. Yeah, I'm gonna

1109
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 2: get dragged for compared.

1110
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: We all wanted to be her, we all wanted to.

1111
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 2: Be here, and she's an icon. But yeah, yeah, so

1112
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: I don't know this like person that I am on stage.

1113
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: My mom is always just like what who is this?

1114
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, I don't know, you're too sexy or

1115
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 2: you're too like it's too much, like the eyes are

1116
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: too intense, like not me, like because I have like

1117
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: these like lock in eyes. Like when you're on stage,

1118
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 2: it's just like it's happening. Yeah, it's time, but it's

1119
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 2: just like very different from my actual personality. So it's

1120
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 2: like shocking, similar to my family, because you're so you.

1121
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 3: Are very like chill and mellow and conversation and then

1122
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 3: like in videos on stage, it's like you are. It's

1123
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 3: the eyes. You're right, you're locked in. We're locked in,

1124
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 3: but like two hands, it's okay, okay. I'm just like

1125
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 3: even like run for the Hills. I'm just like you are.

1126
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: You are dialed in in an amazing way, and I'm like,

1127
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: it's so interesting to hear state that, like it literally

1128
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: is Hannah Montana train conclusion. Imagine you like went on

1129
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: stage for the first time ever, performed like locked in,

1130
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: were galvanized and came off and it never went away.

1131
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: Like your mom would be really freaked out.

1132
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: That my daughter's locked in, right I do, can.

1133
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: You please help? My daughter's locked in?

1134
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 2: So locked my daughter's.

1135
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: Too locked YEA Describe the PERSONA who is she?

1136
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 2: What? What what's she about my alter ego? Yeah, yeah,

1137
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 2: Sasha Fierce. Literally it's I've made it into like a joke,

1138
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 2: so I talk about it like way too much, like

1139
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: probably way more than I should. But it's I colored

1140
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: Tatiana for her, Yeah, Tasiana. And it's just when I

1141
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: go on stage, I black out, Like I don't actually

1142
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: remember that much.

1143
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: You just like perform, you know what you're saying, because

1144
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: I we leave our bodies sometimes or like you feel this.

1145
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 2: Way, yes, right, like you feel like you're it's now

1146
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 2: just like a thing with your body and God like

1147
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 2: in the universe, and it's just like you get possessed.

1148
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 2: And that's the best performance. When I become too aware

1149
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 2: of like I always say, this is like the craziest example.

1150
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 2: When you're on stage and you become too aware and

1151
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 2: too in your body, it feels like you're like manually breathing,

1152
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: you know, when you're in bed and you're like, yeah,

1153
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 2: you remember that you have to breathe, and then you

1154
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 2: stop breathing because you're like, this is really this is

1155
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 2: an automatic thing. Wait, you know, I've.

1156
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: Never heard someone describe it this way. This is this

1157
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: is huge.

1158
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 2: Well, kay, don't think about it before bed if you

1159
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 2: because you'll die, Because you'll die if you think about

1160
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 2: breathing before bed, you will stop breathing. Yeah, oh, because

1161
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: it is so automatic.

1162
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: When you become aware of yourself, it's over. Yeah, So

1163
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: like that's I mean, that's that's just it.

1164
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 2: You're just it's And then when you're on stage and

1165
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 2: people watching you and you're like you forget how to

1166
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 2: like walk and move.

1167
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: You have to turn into someone else.

1168
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 2: I have to otherwise I become way too aware, and

1169
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 2: then I could do nothing normal, Like nothing is It's

1170
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 2: just like you have to be in a different body

1171
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 2: or a different space.

1172
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 3: Like it's crazy conceptually to think about the fact that

1173
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 3: you wrote a song for two hours in your room

1174
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 3: and then weeks later it was like okay, like a

1175
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 3: bunch of people saw this, and now they're knocking on

1176
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 3: my door to like get me to sign Yeah, And

1177
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 3: then that's the kind of the same thing where it's

1178
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 3: like you wrote wrote for a song you ever wrote,

1179
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 3: But there's just like it kind of translates to this

1180
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 3: idea of like you wrote something and you like it's

1181
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 3: very intimate interior experience. And then you're doing a Reno

1182
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 3: tour with all these songs that you wrote in of

1183
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 3: your own studio.

1184
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, it's it's bizarre.

1185
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's like a stoner thought, but you

1186
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 3: know what I mean, It's like it's crazy.

1187
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: It's exactly perform It's so crazy.

1188
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: It's really crazy. No, but that's where I get like

1189
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 2: all like the that's where I feel like the universe

1190
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: is just like planning everything out because I'm like, these

1191
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: coincidences and these things happening like aren't aren't just like random,

1192
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 2: like they're just meant to happen, like and I think

1193
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 2: that Like, yeah, I feel like I feel like you

1194
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: like know that from a young age you kind of

1195
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: like know what you're gonna do.

1196
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: What's the venue that you're most gagged about performing like

1197
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: that you can't really believe it's happening.

1198
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: Well, the Forum will be fun, doing a couple of

1199
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 2: nights there, which will be fun. And MSG again, I

1200
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 2: love that's wild. I know MSG is just special. Just

1201
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 2: New York. I just bought a place in New York.

1202
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 2: Thank you. New York is just like my place. Yes,

1203
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 2: it's so magical there.

1204
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: I love to hear it. Yeah, honestly, oh god, just

1205
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: that there is nothing like it. Did you do you

1206
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: see a lot of live shows too? Do you go

1207
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff?

1208
00:55:58,719 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 2: I try.

1209
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm just like, did you see the Sweat Tour?

1210
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 2: Yes? I did.

1211
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: Did you see that in Madison Square Garden? I saw

1212
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: the Forum? Okay, the Forum was great. Madison Square Garden.

1213
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna flip over. Really, yes, it

1214
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 1: was so crazy. Charlie's I mean, Troy's music just sounds

1215
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: different in there because it's more of a vibe, like

1216
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: it was kind of breathing. I love like the Charlie

1217
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: and Troy show because it was like, when Troy was

1218
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: out there, it was like cool and like pillowy and gorgeous,

1219
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: and then Charlie came out and just like punched you

1220
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: in the face and it was rotating between that. But

1221
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: when she was in that venue, I thought it was

1222
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna flip over.

1223
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: That was one of the best shows I've seen it

1224
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 2: very long. Absolutely, it was so good. Yeah, so well.

1225
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 2: I loved the two of them flipping on. I haven't

1226
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 2: seen a.

1227
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: Show like that before. That needs to happen more often,

1228
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: I think so too. Not since Justified stripped or the

1229
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: then scrapped Kanye Gaga tour, Oh wow. It's crazy to

1230
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: think about that as it wasn't happen and then it

1231
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: got canceled after the after I'm gonna let you finish

1232
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: something split in the fabric of culture. At that night,

1233
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: we were just talking about that, just like that was

1234
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: so consequential for like all of pop culture history.

1235
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 2: That night that was wild.

1236
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, wait. You did Tokyo for the last tour. Yes,

1237
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 3: they did ye everything. I think we just went to

1238
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 3: Tokyo for the first time. We ate so much steak. Yes,

1239
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 3: I turned into a green of rice as like we

1240
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,479
Speaker 3: just like but we had like the best time ever.

1241
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 3: Like Tokyo is one of my favorite places.

1242
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: It's magical, it's crazy.

1243
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I've never seen it. We we played with pigs.

1244
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: Yes, you went to a micropic that was like.

1245
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 2: Number micro pick. Yeah, they're like, well there maybe not

1246
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 2: micro there, there're a Macro.

1247
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: Big macro pigs. There's like a straight and Harrazuku or

1248
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1249
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is when you went on,

1250
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 3: but there's like there's like multiple places in Tokyo where

1251
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 3: it's like the Puppy Cafe no problem, the Kitten Cafe problem,

1252
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 3: the New animal is the micro pigs.

1253
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: Yes, and then the even newer one is Otter.

1254
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 2: Cafe where those are crazy.

1255
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: Those are crazy. Yeah, it's a cafe with otters.

1256
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 3: You eat, you pay, you like order some food, you eat,

1257
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 3: you sip your tea, and they run around and they

1258
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 3: come up.

1259
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 2: To you and they like sit in your lap.

1260
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: Okay, this is too precious.

1261
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 2: No, it was perfect. And then then they all stack

1262
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 2: on top of each other, so there's like there's like

1263
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 2: eight in your lap at once.

1264
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: So what animal are you? You can't stay micro pig

1265
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: because I'll fight you.

1266
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, but that's fine.

1267
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: I'm so not a micro pig.

1268
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 2: What do you think yours? Is? What are your guys?

1269
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: People that wanted to really drag me to hell would

1270
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: be like, I'm some sort of reptile okay, but I

1271
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: don't think.

1272
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: I don't really see it.

1273
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: I would like to be some sort of crazy bird.

1274
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I could see that, you can while you're laughing.

1275
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 2: I'm I'm just like picturing it.

1276
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a bird. I feel like definitely

1277
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: giving rich. They don't even a fly, bitch, they don't

1278
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: have to. I was gonna say, eagle, I was gonna

1279
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: say falcon.

1280
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 2: I'm a falcon.

1281
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, a falcon. So with that, what are you?

1282
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: I might be a pig. I might be a pick

1283
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: of some kind, Okay, I don't know.

1284
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: I feel like you're more of like a koala or something.

1285
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: Oh that's so Nate. I'll take Kuala down. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1286
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: I'll be Kuala.

1287
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 2: I feel like I would be a hmmm, don't look

1288
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:30,439
Speaker 2: at him.

1289
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: I feel like you're.

1290
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 2: I want to be a cheetah, but I'm not. You

1291
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 2: are You don't think you're a cheetah. I don't think

1292
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 2: I'm that fast.

1293
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: It's not about speed. It's just about the demeanor, right energy. Yeah,

1294
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: like when you're on stage, like that's that that who?

1295
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: That girl becomes a leopard.

1296
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 2: I could be more of like a rhino or something.

1297
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: Have some respect for yourself.

1298
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 2: And they're like you don't. We're asking her what.

1299
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll take it together.

1300
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, cheatah, because the cheetah writes to it's a little.

1301
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: Slower, take a little slower than maybe mountain lion. Okay,

1302
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: I like that mountain lion is good and above seize

1303
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: the world for what it is.

1304
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, you call.

1305
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: Her tatis sometimes or is it full on Tatiana.

1306
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: I call her Tatiana.

1307
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't stay Tati to her, Tatiana will.

1308
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 2: Funk you up.

1309
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay getting rested? Was that tap that?

1310
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 2: Tiana?

1311
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: For sure, you would never get arrested. What are your

1312
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: crimes that you've committed.

1313
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 2: I've actually never committed crime ever. I'm a big goodie

1314
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 2: two shoes really yeah, I don't. I really do not

1315
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: cause any trouble.

1316
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: I will say that's good Disney Channel vibes. Yeah, like

1317
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm one of those good kids.

1318
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 2: I am good. I'm pretty wholesome. Is this true? Yeah? Okay, yeah,

1319
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 2: I'm pretty good. Tushes like that. That arrest scene was

1320
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 2: it was funny. My parents were on set too, were

1321
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 2: but but was vibe. It wasn't even naked. It was

1322
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 2: let me say this, that's a reference. This like like

1323
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 2: the editing was so good that it looked like I

1324
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 2: was super naked. I was in like full on like

1325
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 2: a workout set, just base. Yeah yeah yeah, so I

1326
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 2: was sitting there and I'm just doing my acting like whatever.

1327
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 2: So it wasn't even that intense.

1328
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: So my parents were like whoa, Like yeah, so they

1329
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: were like, we're so.

1330
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 2: Down, We're so down, this is pop Like my dad

1331
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 2: was like yes, like like they were just like this

1332
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 2: is really cool. And then the editing came back and

1333
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 2: it looked so realistic. It was it was giving like whoa,

1334
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 2: like they did too good?

1335
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: Sure, they did too good.

1336
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 2: And the final edit wasn't until like two days before

1337
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 2: we had been all the edits. Everyone was like, oh,

1338
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 2: this is great. It was like beige and the final

1339
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 2: edit was like so realistic that all of us were

1340
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 2: kind of numb to it. So when I was like

1341
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 2: when the internet became like shocked, I was like, oh,

1342
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 2: like I didn't really like think too hard about this,

1343
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: are you?

1344
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: But they'll the internet will always think too hard. Of

1345
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: course that's their job.

1346
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 2: So that was that was funny because it wasn't actually

1347
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 2: like it wasn't that like on set.

1348
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: Shit, I'm sorry that I said tits out earlier.

1349
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 2: It's okay, I was.

1350
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: I'm apologizing all throughout this episode offense to it. Okay,

1351
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: now she was cool, it's cucumber cu number.

1352
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 3: I have a question, how long does Corey you live

1353
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 3: in you like, could you like do you need to

1354
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 3: be refreshed? How much do you need to be refreshed?

1355
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 2: Okay, So I can pick up pretty fast. I would say,

1356
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 2: like I can learn it right before, memorize it, and

1357
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 2: perform it. Like like for when we were mirrored, it's okay,

1358
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 2: I'm okay, Like we learned it the day before, wow,

1359
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 2: and then did it Once I do the performance, it's

1360
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 2: out of my head, Like, yeah, I don't remember unless

1361
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 2: we rehearse it for weeks and then it.

1362
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: Like sticks because something else has to go up in

1363
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: the brain.

1364
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have like no memories, so for sure, Like

1365
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 4: I was gonna ask if you have a favorite dance

1366
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 4: break of all time, like if you have a favorite

1367
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 4: pop music dance break.

1368
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 2: Of all time?

1369
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: Like, what's what's one that you're like that she or

1370
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: he shredded that?

1371
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 2: I need to think, I know.

1372
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: Because now it's gonna that. That's the thing is, it's

1373
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: like whatever you say is gonna have weight because now

1374
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: you're the queen of the dance break.

1375
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 2: That's a hard question and to think on that first thing. Yeah,

1376
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 2: think because that's a big one. That is a big

1377
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 2: one jumps to.

1378
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: Mind for me. This isn't probably it, but I think

1379
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: one that because it was so dance contest me the

1380
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: gay little gay boy and my girlfriend's culture. Janat Jackson

1381
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: all for You, Oh, Jana Jackson, all for You, Like

1382
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: that was a song that probably was a hit primarily

1383
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: because of aptively little girls and gay boys doing dance

1384
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: contest when she's in the train station. Just now, that's

1385
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: what I call music. I don't know, let's call it

1386
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: four like just track one. Boom boom boom, boom boom.

1387
01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: That was a deep I'm gonna get with my sister. Yeah, yeah,

1388
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: that's a huge one.

1389
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still thinking commitment. It is a big commitment.

1390
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 2: I know that's a huge I mean I would say,

1391
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,919
Speaker 2: like single Ladies by Beyonce, Like, I just think that

1392
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 2: that was big for me. Did you learn it immediately?

1393
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 2: I don't think I did, but I just remember watch

1394
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 2: just appreciated it.

1395
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 3: Yeah okay, but I'm saying like for tour, like I

1396
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 3: was this close to trying to learn the dance break

1397
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 3: for two hands, okay, because I was trying.

1398
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: To do like the like okay, but like you're literally

1399
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: like upside down like across the window. Wait, what do

1400
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: you do it again?

1401
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 2: I don't know a movie you're referring.

1402
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: Well, wow, she she didn't even know what you were referring.

1403
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: I didn't do that. She's like, I never because you

1404
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: went like this. Well she I'm like, which is kind

1405
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: of like we're kind of cool. When when when when

1406
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: you say the word too, I try to remember the choreo.

1407
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: I want you to.

1408
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 2: Wow.

1409
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm watching Wow. Oh my gosh, cool

1410
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: this one.

1411
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 2: Yes, wait, the again answers hands. It's like the handwave

1412
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 2: and then you drive.

1413
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so I'm obsessed because it's like it's hand,

1414
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 1: it's giving car.

1415
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 2: It is it's like giving like hip wave and then car.

1416
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: So what would happen if would you be proud of us?

1417
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: If let's say we did the two hands choreo? Yes, yes,

1418
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it.

1419
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 2: You should.

1420
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you my idea for later. Okay, okay,

1421
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: maybe you can be involved. Okay on tour, you'll be

1422
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,919
Speaker 1: on tour. Okay when when it's tour until for now

1423
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: makes sense?

1424
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 2: They laughed.

1425
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 1: The scene laughs, because it's going for four years October

1426
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 1: because you want to have a Halloween.

1427
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 2: I of course I won't have all Yeah, so November

1428
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 2: because we just announced new dates.

1429
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: Wow, gradually, And that's why I said for now, for now.

1430
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: I knew y'all had to trick up your the team

1431
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: was going to push it.

1432
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. So now it's November and I don't get a Halloween.

1433
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: No, you'll get a Christmas.

1434
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 2: I'll get a Christmas. You need to spend.

1435
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 3: Halloween in New York and then you're gonna sell your

1436
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 3: house and be like, I never want to live here.

1437
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: Why you're going by the time you get to like, actually, well,

1438
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: you spend time in New York, you've been home, and

1439
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: you get to like acclimated and make it your home.

1440
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 2: I actually haven't moved in yet, but to offer in

1441
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 2: like two days.

1442
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 1: Ago, congrats, Oh nice, And so it's going to happen.

1443
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 2: I hope. So yeah, sometimes they pull out.

1444
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: No, yeah, it's it's a whole thing New York. New

1445
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: York real estate is inly and nasty. But when you

1446
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: finally finished tour in November, like then you're gonna move.

1447
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: And I think that November December, actually actually September, October,

1448
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: November December, that the fall month quadrant thank you, is

1449
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: the best time to.

1450
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 2: Be in New York. Yes, I think so too. I

1451
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 2: think I'm going to really enjoy it there. And then

1452
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 2: in the next year in New.

1453
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: York, and you do have a place here too, Yes.

1454
01:06:59,400 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 2: You gotta.

1455
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got it.

1456
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 2: I got it.

1457
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: Favorite dance break of all time?

1458
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 2: Wait, didn't I say single ladies?

1459
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: Okay, didn't I answer this hard question that's going to

1460
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: cause me to get dragged online because now I didn't

1461
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: say these other girls? Yeah exactly, Hello, I can't win

1462
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: in this town. I didn't realize that that's what we

1463
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 1: were putting you through. That was a very bowen response,

1464
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: cancer vib Well, I think you're.

1465
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 2: Hand in this award right now. I know you believe well.

1466
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're going to do this episode's winning a webbi.

1467
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 1: This episode is winning a webbe by the way, we're

1468
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 1: going to do the choreo of two hands.

1469
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 3: Huh where we'll tell you later. Okay, you know I'm

1470
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 3: not too brad. There might be eyes on it, like

1471
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 3: people are gonna.

1472
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: Be eyes on it. We're just saying, we hope we

1473
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: don't disappoint you.

1474
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 2: Well, do you need some help, like how to learn it?

1475
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 2: Are you going to teach us? Yeah? I can help

1476
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 2: if you're gonna if it's like.

1477
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 1: We should learn from you. Excuse you?

1478
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 2: This is so ambiguous like this, we'll be in touch.

1479
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 3: We just told Tate the idea and we had to

1480
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 3: skip past it and cut.

1481
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 2: That out, and she approves. I approve.

1482
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be good. Okay, well this has been,

1483
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: you know, very sweet time. But now we have to

1484
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: get all the last ANDRETTI with I don't think so honey.

1485
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 2: That's right.

1486
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: This is I don't think so honey.

1487
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 3: This is our segment where we each take one minute

1488
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 3: to rail against something in culture.

1489
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 1: Now do you have something? You know what I do

1490
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 1: have something? It's time? Okay, okay, is.

1491
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 2: It in culture? It can just be, it can be anything.

1492
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: Mine is mine is very much in life. I'm not

1493
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: doing in life.

1494
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll all do life.

1495
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 1: I don't think this is Matt Rogers. I don't think

1496
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: so many. As time starts now, I don't think so honey, man.

1497
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 1: I still see some of you doing it, and can

1498
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 1: I say like it's it was never it It was

1499
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: the tiny little man bum was never. And I'm looking around.

1500
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: I don't think I see anyone here that's giving a

1501
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 1: man bun.

1502
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 2: I see the potential on a couple of people.

1503
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,639
Speaker 1: I see the potential hair length where you could give

1504
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: that as someone who is starting to wade into the

1505
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: might grow my hair out community, have a buzz right

1506
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: now for people that are only listening I may grow

1507
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: my hair out. I'm committed to the second, no little bun,

1508
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna show you a video of me with

1509
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: long hair and it actually looks good. I put a

1510
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 1: wig on. Okay, if you're gonna grow your hair out,

1511
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 1: just give it a style, give it something. Just the

1512
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: tossing it up into a messy bun. You are not

1513
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 1: iconic girls from my high school. Second, you're not, Like.

1514
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 1: The only way you can toss your hair up into

1515
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 1: a messy blund and come out and have it Bestleigh

1516
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,839
Speaker 1: is if you are an iconic girl from my high school.

1517
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1518
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 1: Two girls that came in like the sweatpants with the

1519
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 1: top rolled down on the slides and the messy, messy

1520
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 1: but on lacrosse sweatshirt. Only you with the messy bun.

1521
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 1: Everyone else, especially you gentlemen. It's got to stop. That's

1522
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: one minute, okay, Okay, That's where I'm at on them.

1523
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 1: And you know what has really pushed me over the edge.

1524
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 1: It's you know, the old photos of Justin Valdoni, like

1525
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 1: when he had the hair in Jane the Virgin when

1526
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 1: the version, yes, and he will do when he would

1527
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 1: know about pop culture when he would serve a bun.

1528
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: I was like, see, I can't believe we ever did

1529
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,679
Speaker 1: this right. But you're and you are thinking about growing

1530
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: your hair.

1531
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about growing my hair.

1532
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: And I'm just saying, if it ever gets to the

1533
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: point where you see me and I have long hair,

1534
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know what, guys, hold on a

1535
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: second and you see me toss it up into a bun,

1536
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: please stop me and remind me of this place you

1537
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: tel you like a buzz Yeah, it looks really good.

1538
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1539
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: Compliments your your skull shape.

1540
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 2: It does if you have a good shape structure, and

1541
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 2: so you wish. That's hard because a lot of people

1542
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 2: like don't have an actually good skull shape.

1543
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 1: Could you buzz no?

1544
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

1545
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 1: Well, you have this great hair, Why would you.

1546
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 2: I don't think I could buzz No. I feel like

1547
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 2: I have a strange head shape.

1548
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,560
Speaker 1: Did you get any time as a child, Yeah, you

1549
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 1: must have gotten any times when he when your baby,

1550
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 1: they flip you over on your tummy so that you're

1551
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 1: not lying on your on the back of your had

1552
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: the whole.

1553
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like they must have got mine.

1554
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: Give me so many time. I have a little bit

1555
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 1: of a flathead too.

1556
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 2: I'm telling about that hip for babies is. My mom

1557
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 2: says that your hips form before you're two years old.

1558
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 2: So if you stretch your baby's hips before your two

1559
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 2: years old. She did this to me. She was stretched

1560
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 2: my splits before I was too.

1561
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 4: Wow.

1562
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 2: And so my hips are naturally open because she formed

1563
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 2: my hips that way. Whoa wow. That's the trick.

1564
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 1: If you want to have you got it from your mama.

1565
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 2: I did get it from my mom.

1566
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: You got it from your mom. Put me on the clock.

1567
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 2: I've got something.

1568
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Wait, hold on, she's about to go against

1569
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: his mother.

1570
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 2: I know this.

1571
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: No, he's about to drag Okay, wait, hold on, okay,

1572
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 1: this is Bowen. Why don't I have my thing? This

1573
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: is Bowen yangs. I don't think so, honey. His time

1574
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,719
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey. Not my mom,

1575
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:53,839
Speaker 1: but just the hip architecture in human beings in general.

1576
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: Do you know we have our hip flexures go from

1577
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: back to front, and we have side to side like

1578
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 1: going across.

1579
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 3: It's it's crazy. It's the I think it's where I'm

1580
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 3: going to go. It's how I'm gonna die. Is something's

1581
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 3: going to happen to me in the hips, like I'm

1582
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 3: trying to use them in dance settings and maybe a

1583
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 3: sexual setting, and it's maybe not. It's it's not I'm

1584
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:21,520
Speaker 3: not executing the way I want to execute on the hips.

1585
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 3: I've been doing the same split stretch routine for the

1586
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 3: past two years. I'm no closer to getting into the splits.

1587
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 3: My mom should have done this.

1588
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: What your mom did, what I'm Tatiana's mom did, men

1589
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 1: flop and I can't believe I listen, it's it's it's

1590
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 1: like the one childhood trauma that stays with.

1591
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 2: Me and is your hips.

1592
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 3: All these girls and boys were doing the splits in

1593
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 3: front of me, and I was like, I want to

1594
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 3: do that. I still, after a lifetime of stretching, can't.

1595
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 1: That's what mal That's that's really how I can't do

1596
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 1: it either.

1597
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 3: I guess I guess you can answer how you got

1598
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:57,640
Speaker 3: to do it because your mom kind of did the

1599
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 3: work for you.

1600
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 2: Well, but then I you you just stresch. I did

1601
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 2: really gymnastics when I was younger. I was gonna say

1602
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 2: so they would they would take your like first leg

1603
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 2: on a chair, your back leg on a chair, and

1604
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 2: they'd sit on your knees.

1605
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 1: It's just crazy. Need just be sobbing for like, just

1606
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,600
Speaker 1: like why is this happening? And they're like, so you

1607
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 1: can one day become the queen of.

1608
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 2: The dance break literally like actually this.

1609
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 1: Is for your own good, Tate McCray.

1610
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that whole of pain is from this is

1611
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:30,600
Speaker 2: from them.

1612
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: You So you were that girl who could just whip

1613
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:33,959
Speaker 1: out a carwheel.

1614
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, I was so jealous of you growing up.

1615
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 2: I was that bitch.

1616
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were that bitch flipping in the back. Yeah,

1617
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: you were always upside down.

1618
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1619
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: Well, for reading, you literally shot your leg up like

1620
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: a full one eighty like straight line up and down,

1621
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: And I was like, how do you do this?

1622
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 2: Right?

1623
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 1: It's that after you slay so hard, do you just

1624
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: laugh because you're like did it again?

1625
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 2: Is that a weird question? I wish it was that easy. Yeah.

1626
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is if I was you and I

1627
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: just tore it up, could.

1628
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 2: You imagine me? Just like yes, that's what we're saying.

1629
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 2: When I just came out, it was like.

1630
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 1: And just like eight I would be like, whatever, maybe

1631
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 1: that's what I should start doing. You have a very

1632
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 1: high degree of that girl ability.

1633
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, that's the word. I made a little

1634
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 2: giggle at the end.

1635
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 1: That girlable. Like all your music videos are very that girlable.

1636
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1637
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 1: The songs have a high degree of that girl ability.

1638
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 2: Here.

1639
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 3: I think you should consider like the long black middle

1640
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 3: part like you have in sports car.

1641
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:45,959
Speaker 1: Really that looked incredible.

1642
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 2: Yes, I think it made my face a little long.

1643
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking that.

1644
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 2: No one was thinking.

1645
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: That's the voice in your head.

1646
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 2: The voice in my head. I felt like I needed

1647
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 2: like a layer or something. We didn't have enough time

1648
01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 2: to cut a layer.

1649
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 1: Though, really, because because that was you next to the horse. Yep,

1650
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: how was that horse look scary?

1651
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 2: He was super nice. Actually, he was really cute and sweet.

1652
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 2: A horse girl. I'm allergic to horses, but I do

1653
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,679
Speaker 2: love them. I love that interaction. You're a horse girl.

1654
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:16,560
Speaker 2: I'm allergic to horses.

1655
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 1: But I do love them.

1656
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 2: I just can't help but feel like.

1657
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: I always when I was my sisters did gymnastics, and

1658
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 1: so all of her friends did gymnastics, and they were flipping, turning,

1659
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 1: screaming through the skies like I was just like, why

1660
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 1: can't I move? Yeah, it's because my mom didn't sit

1661
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 1: on my hips. Yeah, which is not what I don't

1662
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 1: think that's what you did. So you did rhythmic gymnastics,

1663
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 1: not like competitive gymnastics with the ribbon.

1664
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 2: And I had a ball routine, yes, were you like

1665
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 2: put the ball in between your back? And you was like,

1666
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 2: He's like literally like like do a summersault with it?

1667
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 1: Do you like who thought of that? Who thought to

1668
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 1: do that?

1669
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 2: I have no idea, And I also have don't understand

1670
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 2: the reason for it, Like I don't understand why I

1671
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 2: trained that hard to like fit a ball between my

1672
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:10,560
Speaker 2: back and do it? Crazy?

1673
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: Can we first second, think about every gymnastics event. It's

1674
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 1: all insane bar It's like what it's like Someone's someone

1675
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 1: one day was like, you know what it's going to be.

1676
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: Girls are gonna run as fast as they can towards

1677
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 1: a brick. They're going to fly off the brick hands first,

1678
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: flip in the air, and land on their feet, and

1679
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 1: if they don't, it's flop.

1680
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 2: It is, but it is. It's such an interesting thing

1681
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 2: because it's the same with dance. Like I did a

1682
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 2: music video say I'm like, I am literally dying for

1683
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 2: dance right now, and then dance just like exhausted, bruised,

1684
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 2: like like literally killing myself and just for a dance break.

1685
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that is such a weird concept. Yep, you

1686
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: gotta knock.

1687
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have bruises everywhere.

1688
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't believe you came here.

1689
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1690
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 1: What you didn't see is she had to drag herself

1691
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: to the seat. It did, and we didn't help.

1692
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 2: We sat.

1693
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 1: We were like, yeah, it was cold, cold, all Okay,

1694
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: it is your opportunity and time to do it out, okay, okay,

1695
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 1: and I can tell that you're gonna tear.

1696
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 2: Okay.

1697
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is Tate mccray's I don't think so, honey,

1698
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: her time starts now.

1699
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 2: Okay. So I'm only doing this because my mom just

1700
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 2: came into town, and it's just a frustration I've had

1701
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 2: with car play in my in my car so whenever

1702
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 2: my parents, So it's a little finicky, like the USB

1703
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 2: and the Bluetooth switches on and off a little bit,

1704
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 2: but then I get to a point where it's pretty

1705
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 2: consistent and walk in it clicks whatever. My parents come

1706
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 2: into town and every single phone hooks up all of

1707
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 2: a sudden and they're like, guys, turn off your Bluetooth,

1708
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:50,640
Speaker 2: and they have no idea how to turn off the

1709
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 2: so it just like swipes up. My mom and dad

1710
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 2: I grab their phones and like it is the most frustrating,

1711
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,040
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, why does the why does the

1712
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 2: car have to click to their phones? They don't live

1713
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 2: here their car, why is it connecting to this fifteen?

1714
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 2: And it's just really hard because I feel like I

1715
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 2: lose ownership of my car when they come into town

1716
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 2: because I can't listen to my music. I can't my

1717
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 2: navigation is off, and it just really frustrating.

1718
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 1: And that's when I'm gonna say, I don't think so, honey.

1719
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 2: I don't think so honey.

1720
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 1: Car Now it's officially Exchton time. Now, it's exton time. Car.

1721
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 1: Play should know that it's a it's a dad phone

1722
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 1: or a mom phone.

1723
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 2: It also should just be better. I don't understand why

1724
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:30,679
Speaker 2: it's not better.

1725
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 1: No, it's going to kill us. Play is going to

1726
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: kill us because when it starts to act up and

1727
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: they're driving and you kind of.

1728
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 2: From being like my turn is it? Yeah? Yeah?

1729
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 1: Well for me, it's like I need music to be

1730
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 1: playing in the car like I'm not not maybe a

1731
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 1: podcast but usually no, usually music and when and for

1732
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 1: to say nothing of directions, yeah, which is also a

1733
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 1: thing with car play. It's like you cut off my

1734
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 1: music and directions? Why am I in the car to

1735
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 1: begin with?

1736
01:18:58,760 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1737
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 1: The road like hello, doing surgery like on my car,

1738
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 1: And I'm like, this was supposed to be easier. Yeah,

1739
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: it's not like everything they say that makes things easier.

1740
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 1: That's why I don't trust the self driving cars. I'm

1741
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 1: like scary, Like that is really scary.

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01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 1: Every time they have made an advancement in cars, I'm like,

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01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 1: I feel as though we can go back to basics.

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01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 2: I think so too.

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01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:23,879
Speaker 1: Are you doing Google Maps for Apple Maps?

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01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 2: For Apple Maps? Why are you guys google Maps?

1748
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 1: No, no, we're not. I'm so sweet about that, are

1749
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 1: you guys?

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01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 2: Google Maps? Google Maps?

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01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 1: But I just like Apple Maps is so tough actually

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01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 1: sweet opposite really sometimes Apple Maps is really really good.

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01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 2: I think it's just a cleaner layout. I think that

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01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 2: when you it's just like less like clunky, all right,

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01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 2: like you zoom in on Google. Yes, Apple Maps is

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01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:53,520
Speaker 2: just automatic.

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01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what came and went ways people, it's

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01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 1: still still use It was still still out there. We

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01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 1: just lost a huge ways sponsored the podcast and we

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01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 1: were struggling. So they're going to ask for our webby back.

1761
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 2: We needed that.

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01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: Here take our webbie back. Okay, did you want it?

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01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 2: Sure?

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01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 1: Tate McCrae accepts this webby on our behalf.

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01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 2: Thank you.

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01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: You know, if you if you, if you flick it, it springs.

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01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 2: Look do that. Doesn't it feel kind of good to

1768
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 2: put your hand see like this.

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01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 1: To justify that he was doing it. It feels great.

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01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 1: Slip it not really? Yeah, exactly exactly. This has been

1771
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 1: such a nice time getting to know you. You're fucking cool

1772
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 1: as hell, You're so talented. Thanks guys, and we're going

1773
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 1: to come see you.

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01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:43,839
Speaker 2: Please would love.

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01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 1: We want to come see what m s g.

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01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 2: Please come. Yes, that would be so fun.

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01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 1: And maybe even by then we'll have the two hands

1778
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 1: choreo down.

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01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 2: I think we will.

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01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to do that. You'll see us in the

1781
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 1: crowd literally hurting everyone around us. I think that's gonna

1782
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 1: We're going to start up the tech talk trend.

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01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna do it perfect. Has there not been

1784
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 2: a tech talk trunks step started at this point I

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01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 2: think there is for that dance.

1786
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 1: Probably do you dictate what the trend is?

1787
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,679
Speaker 2: I don't think you really can, Like, yeah, you can

1788
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 2: do like just post stuff and if it trends, trends.

1789
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 1: Because like it wasn't there wasn't Charlie someone else made.

1790
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 1: Okay, that was good.

1792
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 2: It was so good. That was good.

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01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 1: That's what you want. I mean, we'll be that girl

1794
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 1: for you, you know.

1795
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you want.

1796
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: That's what that's what you want to have someone else.

1797
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 2: This is a marketing meeting.

1798
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 1: The team's all here, well, so close to what is

1799
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 1: out right now. Please do have some fun for once

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01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 1: in your life. Yeah, go listen to Flow Milly.

1801
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 2: Have a glass of wine. Listen to the album sit back.

1802
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 1: Is that your optimal vibe for it? Like, have a

1803
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 1: less of one?

1804
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:54,679
Speaker 2: I think, so you make a chill.

1805
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think too hard.

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01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 2: I mean, but thank harder.

1807
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: Had Like we're getting mixed messaging from tap.

1808
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 2: Translation myself every album.

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01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 1: Okay, we had every episode with a song.

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01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 2: We already missed up. It's you started it and one

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01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 2: that's the best part of the and I do love

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Speaker 2: the m one. Yeah, so that's for you to do.

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01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 2: It Home, Bye Bye.

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Speaker 1: Last Culture. Reciss is the production by Will Ferrell's Big

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01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 1: Money Players and I Heart Radio podcasts, created and hosted

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01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 1: by Matt Rogers and bowen Ye, executive produced by Anna

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01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:43,639
Speaker 1: Hasnier and produced by Becker Ramos, edited mixed by Duck

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01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 1: Bam and Manila Board. And our music is by Henryk

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Speaker 1: Murski