1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: This is the almost Famous podcast with. 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio Almost Famous The Ogs. I figure i'll start this 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: one because I am going to be talking a lot 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: to you, Trista Sutter, Nay Wren. I gotta tell you 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: almost Famous the Ogs. We do a lot of things 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: on this show. We've been recapping the Special Forces, but 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: last night was the departure of my beautiful and talented 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: co host, Trista Sutter. 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: And I was texting you in the middle of the. 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: Show because I was so worried about you last night, 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: thinking of watching this show and knowing how desperately you 12 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: wanted to go. 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: To the end, and you. 14 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 2: Know last night obviously the show kicks off with us 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: seeing that Ali's gone, and then as they're getting ready 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: for the first mission, you leave the show and you're 17 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: medically I guess it was technically a medically left the 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: show writer. Was it a voluntary It was voluntary. 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: I had to hand him my arm band. 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 21 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 4: It was based in uh medical issues, or part of 22 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 4: it was. And I can share that experience. But continue 23 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 4: with your question, if you had if you had more. 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: Well, no, all I was going to say was I 25 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: was texting you last night because I was concerned about 26 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: how you might feel, you know, just knowing you, and 27 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: I mean, you and I are both people pleasers, and 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: you know, it's so hard to walk away from. 29 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: Something you committed to. 30 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 2: And I wanted you to know how I felt watching it, 31 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: which was what you said and how you composed yourself 32 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 2: and how you handled yourself. I thought was so respectful 33 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: to the process and to our service people, and you know, 34 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: and I think they felt that way too, Like he 35 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: didn't give you any grief. 36 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, no, you know, we appreciate you know. 37 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it was like it was like their their 38 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: way of basically saying, like, if we could tell you 39 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: to go home, we would have, you know what I mean, 40 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: because you you just had hypothermia, you had just a 41 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: rough go and you know, and you said, you know, 42 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: like I have so much respect for what you all 43 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 2: do and our service people, and but I don't want 44 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: to be a burden to my team. 45 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: And I felt like that was such a very kind 46 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: thing to think. 47 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: About in that moment, because you know, especially in the 48 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: tasks that came later in this particular episode. 49 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: You know, there was hand to hand cobbat. 50 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: They were scaling the side of a wall, carrying five 51 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: hundred pound a gear up, a pulley. 52 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, more water. 53 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: Stuff, you know, which you had just had hypothermia from 54 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: being in the water. 55 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, would you have been a burden. 56 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: I'm not saying you would have been a burden, but 57 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: would you have had a very difficult time after going 58 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: through what you had just gone through? I would say yes. 59 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: And I think that it was the right time, you know. 60 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 2: And you said you were at peace with it, and 61 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: I think you know. I guess my question was, after 62 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: having seen your exit on television, are you still at 63 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: peace with it? 64 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? It's hard. 65 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 4: So a little background, I I'm leaving, we're doing for 66 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 4: everybody listening. We're doing this at six in the morning 67 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 4: Mountain standard times, so five Pacific, because Blakesley and I 68 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 4: are leaving to go to a dance competition. So I 69 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 4: watched my exit but not the rest of the show, 70 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 4: and just to see kind of what everyone everyone would see, 71 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 4: because I knew I would be getting questions and. 72 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 3: It's hard. 73 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 4: It's hard, and listen, I hate to live with regrets. 74 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: Right. 75 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 4: I went into this and I said, I wanted to 76 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 4: give myself grace and say you go as long as 77 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 4: you can, like you, obviously, the goal is to make 78 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 4: it to the end. That that was the ultimate right 79 00:03:55,120 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 4: and I really truly wanted to. But what every one 80 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 4: doesn't see, and I've said this kind of over and 81 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 4: over again, is the in betweens, the running. When I 82 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 4: did feel like a burden, truly, like you, thank you 83 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 4: so much for your sweetness last night and this morning. 84 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 3: That was very sweet. It like literally got me tierry 85 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: just now. 86 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 4: And because I did truly feel like a burden, I 87 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 4: didn't want Golden or cam or Nathan or anyone, Christy, 88 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 4: anyone feeling like they had to give any extra effort 89 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 4: to take care of me when they really need to 90 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 4: focus on taking care of themselves. And then you don't 91 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 4: see any of what happened truly with the hypothermia, and 92 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 4: there were multiple people with hypothermia by the way, the. 93 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: Exhaustion from the beach. 94 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 4: I almost fainted on the beach, and after I got 95 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 4: to the vehicle. You know, I think I've told you this, 96 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 4: but and Chris explained it, I was turning blue, I 97 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 4: was lethargic, I couldn't hold my head up, lockjaw, like 98 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 4: all of these crazy things going on uncontrollable shaking and oh, sorry, 99 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 4: I haven't. 100 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 3: Woken up yet, can you tell? 101 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 4: So even though I woke up an hour ago, I 102 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 4: haven't woken up yet, so you know, I'm on the beach. 103 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 4: I'm going through, like, what is the most grueling workout 104 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 4: I have ever done in my life? And I'm about 105 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 4: to faint. And what I was thinking about this morning 106 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 4: is when I had my seizure that was about I 107 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 4: don't know, like seven years ago, ten years ago, I 108 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 4: don't know. 109 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 3: I don't even remember the date, but. 110 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 4: They never figured out why. And part of it was 111 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 4: I think that I fainted, at least in my mind, 112 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 4: and so when I am faced with the possibility of fainting, 113 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 4: my mind automatically goes to I can't because I'll have 114 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 4: another seizure, you know. 115 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 3: So that was like weighing. 116 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 4: On my on my mind in that moment, and I 117 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 4: went up to DS Rudy and said, I think I'm 118 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 4: gonna faint. I need to see a medic and he said, okay, well, 119 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 4: then you need to give me your armband if you're 120 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 4: going to go see the medic. And I was like, 121 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 4: but I don't want to. I just want to go 122 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 4: see him. And and mind you, Jordan had like gone 123 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 4: to like talk to them about like her panic panicking 124 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 4: in the water. So I was like, I'll just ask 125 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 4: to go see a medic. They said no, and he 126 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 4: said you can either keep going or go see the medic. 127 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 4: And so I kept going and I was like, I'm 128 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 4: not ready to go home, just like I was saying 129 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 4: to Cue when he was yelling at me, like all 130 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 4: the way up the hill of the beach. I was like, 131 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 4: I'm just not I'm not ready to go home. Now 132 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 4: flash forward to getting hypothermia and then. 133 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 3: Like change it. You know, she changed me. 134 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 4: Everything I as you saw to like last night's episode 135 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 4: when I said when I was crying in the warming 136 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,119 Speaker 4: room and saying, I feel like I'm Michelle of a human. 137 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 4: I feel like a Michelle of myself. That was the 138 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 4: night before after I had come back and I just 139 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 4: had no energy. I just even even eating, I had 140 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 4: no energy. I was totally depleted and really close to 141 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 4: the I think limitations of what my body could do, 142 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 4: like truly because like having to face the possibility of 143 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 4: having another seizure just because I fainted, not that that 144 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 4: would definitely have happened. But in my mind I thought 145 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 4: it would was really really scary, and. 146 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: All they what they. 147 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 4: Kept saying to me in the mirror room interview was 148 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 4: it's going to get a lot harder. And I did 149 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 4: have the mirror room interview that nobody saw either, and 150 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 4: in that, you know, they gave me validation that they 151 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 4: saw that I was working one hundred percent for myself, 152 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 4: but also kept saying. 153 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: It's going to get harder. 154 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 4: It's going to get harder, and I think that was 155 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 4: their way of saying, go get some rest, like think 156 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 4: about what we just talked about and what you just 157 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 4: went through. And so after the mirror room, I walked 158 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 4: down with Rudy and he pulls off my hood and says, 159 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 4: I thought you were going to leave on the beach, 160 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 4: and I'm really proud of you that you didn't. That's 161 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 4: what it's all about, like just keep going, like, choose 162 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 4: to keep going if you feel like you can keep going, 163 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 4: And just like the kindness from him of saying, you know, 164 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 4: I'm proud of you. 165 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: You did really well. 166 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 4: And that's kind of like I wanted to go to 167 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 4: make myself proud, to make them proud, to make my husband, 168 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 4: my kid's proud, and I feel a little bit like 169 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 4: a like a hypocrite in talking about, you know, teaching 170 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 4: my kids to pick themselves up and keep going when 171 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 4: they are faced with hard things because I left, but 172 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 4: I also, in that moment at that night, chose to 173 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 4: keep going at least for that moment. And then we 174 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 4: you know, I took a really long shower. Ali was 175 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 4: talking about how she had the first shower and she 176 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 4: felt like she had to really be quick. 177 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: I took a long shower. Yeah. 178 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 4: I was like everyone else was already at that point, 179 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 4: like in their cots or like almost ready for bed, 180 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 4: and so I just took my time because I just 181 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 4: still had no energy. And then went to sleep for 182 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 4: I think two or three hours and woke up to 183 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 4: the like fireworks in the trash can, and and I 184 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 4: just had this piece come over me, like I it's okay, 185 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 4: okay to leeve this is your journey. You're feeling like 186 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 4: a burden. I hate that feeling. I hate that feeling. 187 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 4: And then just the kindness that I got, the fact 188 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 4: that they validated me for working one hundred percent of 189 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 4: my ability, and then just the massive amount of respect 190 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 4: that I that I gained from the already massive of 191 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 4: respect that I have for our military and special forces. 192 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 4: I gain that. And it's crazy to think it was 193 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 4: just two days, but it was a really long two days, 194 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 4: and I feel like I learned. I learned a lot. So, 195 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 4: you know, it's really hard going back to that initial question. 196 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 4: It's hard because in that moment, I did feel so 197 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 4: much peace, and I have to remind myself of that. 198 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 4: But watching it and knowing, you know, the bonding that 199 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 4: still continued to happen, and the personal challenges that they overcame, 200 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 4: and that kind of thing, and that's a whole you know, 201 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 4: one of the big reasons why we all go. I 202 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 4: do have a little bit of fomo, Like, I have 203 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 4: a little bit of a little bit of regret in that, well, 204 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 4: couldn't you have just woken up? 205 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: Oh? 206 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 4: And what you also didn't see is that, like they 207 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 4: show everyone kind of chill like at times they show 208 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 4: the chaos. But that morning when he said you have 209 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 4: fifteen minutes, and that is you got woken up like 210 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 4: out of nowhere. Right, Yeah, most of us are probably 211 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 4: dead asleep. You get woken up like in a really 212 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 4: dramatic way, right, And you have to make sure that 213 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 4: your pack, is your birkin is packed, that you get 214 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: some food, that you brush your teeth if you feel 215 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 4: like that's important, and I think most of us do that, 216 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 4: you like brush. 217 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 3: Your teeth, That you gather all of your clothes. 218 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 4: So you hear one somebody said, like someone took my sock, 219 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 4: like we were talking about with Ali yesterday. Like it's 220 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 4: really hard to just all of a sudden, you know, 221 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 4: fourteen of us or however many there were at this Yeah, 222 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 4: there were fourteen or thirteen, No fourteen because Ali was 223 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 4: still in it. Our trying to grab your clothes and 224 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 4: get dressed with your warm clothes. So anyway, I it 225 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 4: was mad chaos, and you didn't see the mad chaos. 226 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 4: You saw like Landon and Marion having a conversation, and 227 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 4: that was definitely not that morning. That morning, everyone was 228 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 4: like super focused on getting to the parade to stand 229 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 4: in parade. So anyway, I just I woke up with 230 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 4: this sense of peace. I was like, you know what, 231 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 4: this is too much for me. I don't want to 232 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 4: push my body past what it can do. And then 233 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 4: come to find out later that day after I had left, 234 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 4: after my exit interview, that they did the submersion in 235 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 4: freezing cold water and they felt and so I was like, 236 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 4: that is why they were telling me that it's just 237 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 4: going to get harder, because I think they knew that 238 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 4: I was pushed to my to my limit and and 239 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 4: they wanted me to kind of get to where I 240 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 4: where I got, I would assume it would be it 241 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 4: would be nice to talk to when we do talk 242 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 4: to Rudy and Billy, just to ask them, did they 243 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 4: know did they kind of push me a little bit 244 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 4: in that direction so that I wouldn't get hurt or 245 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 4: push my body too much? 246 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. Anyway. 247 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 4: I do have a little regret, but I have to 248 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 4: remember there were certain reasons that I left. 249 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: You know, when we talked to Q, one of the 250 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 2: things that really resonated with me was, you know that 251 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 2: he is a kind person. He's a badass, that he's 252 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 2: a kind person, and I think, you know, like they 253 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: even said, they're like, you know, our goal isn't to 254 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: ruin these people. Our goal is to give them a 255 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: glimpse as to what we've gone through in our lives 256 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 2: so that they know how to push their bodies and 257 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: they reach their full potential. 258 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: So you know, I think like you know, there was a. 259 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: Common interview question that was answered after you left the 260 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: show going into the next the milling, which is the 261 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: actual hand to hand combat, and basically they asked everybody, 262 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: you know, how do you feel about violence? And you know, 263 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: everyone starts answering that question, and you know, everybody to 264 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: the letter, you know, I mean you have professional athletes, 265 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: you have you know, I mean, well, at this point, 266 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: I guess really you got a bunch of professional athletes 267 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: and a Disney actress. You know, that's kind of where 268 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: it's at at this point. Yeah too, And and you 269 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: know they're going through the questions with everyone, and everyone 270 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: do a number was pretty much like you know, hey, man, 271 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: I I mean. 272 00:14:58,760 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: I'll do what I got to do. 273 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: I don't I don't want violence, but if someone is 274 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: coming coming for me, I got to protect myself or whatever. 275 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: And it got to Nathan and Nathan's like, I've never 276 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: never hit anyone. 277 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: I've never been in a fight. 278 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: And you could tell when we interviewed him how kind 279 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: and just gentle he was, and it was it was 280 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: really interesting to watch that segment. I mean, Carrie Hart 281 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: looked like a professional boxer. I mean, honest to god, 282 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: you know, he you could tell that dude's been in 283 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: some scraps, you know. And then you have then you 284 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: have Kayla, Kayln Nicole, and she's like, you know, look, 285 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: I've been in a couple of situations where i had 286 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: to defend myself, so I'm not afraid to do it. 287 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: And and it was like she she you could tell 288 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: she knew what she was doing. You could tell Carrie 289 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: Hart knew what he was doing. Everybody else was just 290 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: sort of doing what they had to do. I mean, Cam, 291 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 2: I think just from his his physical presence was was 292 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: you know, poor Nathan, right, he had to get in 293 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: the ring with Cam because of their size. 294 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: But even to that. 295 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: Point, you know that they at one point they go, guys, 296 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: you're supposed to be hitting each other, not running into 297 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: each other. Like they were both just sort of like 298 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: running into each other and pushing each other down. 299 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: And and you know, at the end of it, Cam 300 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: was like he was trying to find some inner piece. 301 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: He's like all zend out, you know, because he popped 302 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: Nathan in the nose, and Nathan's nose was bleeding and 303 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: that ended up being knocked Nathan out. Marion Jones her 304 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: Ribs got broken. We're assuming she got They were both 305 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: medically you know, relieved of duty or whatever you call it. So, 306 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: I mean it was but man, that was the moment 307 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: where I was like, Trista Windhle because I could never 308 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: see you. I mean, you're a scrappy person. And don't 309 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: get me wrong, I mean no disrespect by this, but 310 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: I just don't. I couldn't see you being in there 311 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: punching someone in the face. 312 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: I just couldn't. 313 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 4: No disrespect taking. Yeah, so that was part of it. 314 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 4: And mind you, I'm in the hotel that we started 315 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: at before we left, so I'm back in one of 316 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 4: my room actually, and we're hearing from producers kind of 317 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 4: what's happening and what's going on with the other recruits, 318 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 4: and we hear all of the injuries. I mean, Nathan 319 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 4: broke his nose land and broke ribs, and Marion broke 320 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 4: ribs and they were all in the hospital like we 321 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 4: I'm sitting in the hotel talking to Denise being like, 322 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 4: you know, I'm sad to be gone, but I am 323 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 4: at peace that you know, I left, And then finding 324 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 4: out about that, we were like. 325 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 3: Thank god we left when we did. 326 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, you know going into it that 327 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 4: this is going to be part of it. If you've 328 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 4: watched previous seasons, right, they do it every season. There's 329 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 4: certain things they do every season. This is one of them. 330 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 4: And I've never been in a fight before. In the interview, 331 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 4: the pre interview that Nathan was shown saying, I, I 332 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 4: don't know. I haven't dealt with violence before. I said 333 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 4: that pretty much the same thing. I've never had to. 334 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 4: But I'll you know, I'll fight if I if I 335 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 4: need to, And I'm pretty positive I would have been 336 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 4: against Kyla where you know, the smaller. 337 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 3: Actually was Jordan. 338 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 4: No that that was after the water, so we haven't 339 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 4: talked about the water yet, but yeah, Jordan was gone. 340 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 4: So if Jordan was gone, then I definitely would have 341 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 4: fought Kyla, and I feel like we would have been okay, 342 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 4: but you just you just never know. 343 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 2: They didn't show Kyla's as much like I was wondering 344 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: if you would have been against Christie. 345 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, Christy's taller, and I feel like her and 346 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 4: Alana are didn't they fight? They're a pretty good match, 347 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 4: her and Alana, and then Kayla and Marian and then 348 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,719 Speaker 4: I think the guys were odd anyway, yeah, Nathan. 349 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, Corey fought or Carrie Hart fought Brody twice and 350 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: we didn't see. 351 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: Christy and Alana, so we didn't see much of that one. 352 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: We saw them, like we saw Christie's face getting you know, 353 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: the head gear put on and stuff. I didn't rely 354 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: see it, but yeah, you know to that point, that's right. 355 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: That was the second one. The first one was actually 356 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 2: they went back to water in a sinking boat and 357 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: they have to rescue the black Box. And even at that, 358 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, thank god Tressa went home because I know 359 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: as they're going to the water, you even hear land 360 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: and you know he would he had even said He's 361 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: like I can't do more water. 362 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: I just can't. 363 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: You know, you hear a few people saying these things 364 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: and or maybe it wasn't Landed, but it was someone 365 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: but they were just like I can't. 366 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 3: You know, maybe Jordan, because she ended up going in yeah. 367 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: Well she yeah, she was not having it like she 368 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: She's just like I can't do it, and he's like 369 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: you can't. And that's when you sat, that's when you 370 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 2: sort of get a chance to see the d s's 371 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 2: you know, actually encouraging you and not just being hard 372 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 2: assd as. Like I thought it was really great to 373 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: be honest that they were like, you can do this. 374 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: You know, you could do this, Like they knew she 375 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: could do it if she just got over this this 376 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 2: fear and this panic that developed on the beach, you know. 377 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: But but you know, she couldn't get past it. 378 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: And and they were like, well then hand us, you know, 379 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: hand us your armband and we got to go. You know, 380 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 2: I really thought after after this series of uh of events, 381 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: they they brought Marion Jones into the mirrored room, and uh, 382 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 2: that was really touching for me, so to listen to her, 383 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: and you know, because she was One of the things 384 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 2: she did was, uh, she went down when she was 385 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 2: trying to undo the black box. You had to first 386 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 2: like unscrew this connector, then you had to undo both sides. 387 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: Then you had to swim up with a black box. Well, 388 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 2: she was doing great. She didn't get the connector all 389 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 2: the way on screwed, so she just physically pulled it out, 390 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 2: like pulled the cable out and swam out. And they 391 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: basically honed in on that and they were like, you know, uh, 392 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 2: physically you're gifted and you're you know, you're you're someone 393 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: that we thought was someone who would win at all costs, 394 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: but you're obviously someone who makes rash decisions and doesn't 395 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: listen or doesn't see the whole picture or something. 396 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 3: Like that to detail, doesn't listen to detail. 397 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 398 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so it got her to start talking about 399 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,239 Speaker 2: the doping scandal, which you know, she actually went to 400 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: prison for six months, she lost all of her medals 401 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 2: and records, which she's one of my favorite Olympians of 402 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: all time. 403 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: And I didn't realize all that. 404 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 3: Happened, Bob, Neither did I. 405 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 4: I had no idea, Like, honestly, I I think I 406 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 4: just my brain just pushed that stuff out about the 407 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 4: doping scandal, and all I remember when I saw her, 408 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 4: it was the same thing. She is one of my 409 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 4: favorite Olympians and and well. 410 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: I always remember her a cute smile and you know 411 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 2: all that like when she was in the Olympics. 412 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: And yeah, so it was so but you know, it 413 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: was interesting because she owns it like big time. 414 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and you're watching her in this interview 415 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 2: and she's like, it's me, I I made the choice, 416 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: like and they're like, oh, what a they gave her? 417 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 2: An opportunity to I don't know, step away from it 418 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: a little bit. They're like, you know, what a what 419 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: a horrible set of circumstances or whatever. I can't remember 420 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: what they said. And she's like, no, I made the 421 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: wrong decision in that moment. Yeah, and I shouldn't have 422 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 2: done it, but I most certainly shouldn't have, you know, 423 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: been misleading about it, and I chose to do that. 424 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: And so when all that happened, and you're just like, WHOA. 425 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 3: I love her. 426 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,239 Speaker 4: I love her. I cannot wait to talk to her 427 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 4: on the podcast. 428 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 3: But she is. 429 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 4: She's one of my favorite people from the show. She 430 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 4: was just so caring and I people make make mistakes, 431 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 4: people make more choices, were human, you know, and I 432 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 4: love that she owned. 433 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: It, you know well, especially her circumstances. 434 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: And I'm not sure we can ask her this, I 435 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: guess when we have her on the show, but she 436 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 2: mentioned that when she went away to prison for six months, 437 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: she had a baby, like a young child. Oh, and 438 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 2: Anne had to go away, and you know, she was 439 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 2: talking about how her mom came to this country and 440 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 2: all she wanted to do was make her mom proud, 441 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 2: and here she disappointed everyone and you're. 442 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 4: Just like, yeah, and she's really close with her mom. 443 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 4: She was literally just in Turks and Caicos with her mom. 444 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 4: Oh no, I think, like I don't know if any 445 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 4: more family, but this last week she was in Turks 446 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 4: and Caicos. Anyway, I love her, and I, like I said, 447 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 4: I did see like little snippets from the show last 448 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 4: night as I was walking by the TV or whatever, 449 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 4: Ryan had it on, and I could he hear it happened, 450 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 4: and I'm I'm glad she got the opportunity to speak 451 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 4: about it and that it's airing, you know what I mean, 452 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 4: because because they didn't show my my mirror room interview, 453 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 4: It's not like I had anything like really significant to 454 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 4: talk about. I was just kind of explaining who I am. 455 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 4: But the fact that she got that, I bet that 456 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 4: was like a little cathartic, you know, for sure. 457 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: I hope yeah it was. 458 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 2: I will say this, like, I think one thing this 459 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: show does very well is when they when they have 460 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: those moments, you know, like we used to call my 461 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 2: tms right in the moments, and I don't know what 462 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 2: they call them these days, but I feel like they 463 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 2: do a really great job of giving people a chance 464 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 2: to have a redemption moment and you know, or whatever 465 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 2: it is if they're there from you know, one of 466 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 2: the other teamwork tasks I want to talk about really 467 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: quickly because it was kind of when you start seeing 468 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 2: the frustration on people, like you know, the fighting thing 469 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 2: was one thing that's just you know, can you be 470 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 2: have aggression in the moment and then reel it back, 471 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: you know, which is one of the things that the 472 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: Seals were the ds as we're talking about, they split 473 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 2: the team and they split the guys the people into 474 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: two teams and remaining people into two teams, and they 475 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: basically have to go on the beach, inflate a boat, 476 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: paddle this boat out around this buoye, and come back. 477 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 2: And it's it's basically, you know, we're going to see 478 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: who who can be a good leader. And so they 479 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 2: have essentially they have Golden Tate who was picked essentially 480 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 2: as a captain, and Brody and you know, I was 481 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: anticipating Golden just to shine in this moment because he's 482 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: been a team player, you know, an athlete's whole life, 483 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: and he's been you know, I know, he's been the 484 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: captain of you know things, and but he kind of 485 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: froze in the moment, and it really kind of created 486 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 2: tension on his team. 487 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you know it's him. He had first pick. 488 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 2: He chose Cam. Then Brody had first pick or second chick, 489 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 2: he shose Carry. But like the way these teams came together, 490 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 2: you know, there were two people who were picked. 491 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: Last, obviously Christy and then I think no the actress. 492 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 3: I think Brody said. 493 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 4: I think Brody said that he when I was watching 494 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 4: that part and they were talking about Brodie's team, because 495 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 4: that's the only team that Brody has, right. 496 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: Anyway, he he Brody's team crushes it. Like they're two 497 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 2: minutes behind inflating the boat. The boat's not even fully inflated. 498 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: They gotta go on the water because they're gonna just lose. 499 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: Because yeah, uh, I think it was Team Alpha was 500 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 2: Golden's team. But anyway, they're already on the water, but 501 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: they were such a hot mess in the water. 502 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,479 Speaker 1: It was insane and they were like just meandering all 503 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: over the place. 504 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 2: And now Golden or Brodie's team jumps in and he's 505 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 2: like all right, hard on the right, you know, and 506 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 2: there and he's just like you can tell the dud's 507 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: been around water. First of all, he's a great surfer, 508 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: and he's a he's a great athlete also, but he's 509 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 2: just a natural leader, you know, and. 510 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: He really takes charge of his team. 511 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: And they get in line and they're just doing it, 512 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 2: and the other team it's like everybody is you know, 513 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 2: Cam's yelling at Golden, Christie's yelling. 514 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: Kayla's yelling. 515 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 2: You know, they're all just like all over each other. 516 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 2: And and the fact that they even finished this thing 517 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 2: was pretty remarkable. Then they have to do what's called 518 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: a I think they called it a powder doughnut, which 519 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 2: is like basically their their punishment is they have to 520 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 2: go submerge themselves in the water. Then they have to 521 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 2: come back out, lay on the beach and cover themselves. Insane, 522 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,479 Speaker 2: and it's and this just creates even more attention. So, 523 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: you know, you got Cam and Golden, who are both 524 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 2: have been in leadership positions. I'm sure their whole lives 525 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 2: for the most part, both professional athletes, kind of at 526 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: each other's you know, they're on each other's nerves pretty bad. 527 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 2: And and so you see this like tension between them. 528 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: You see, you know, Golden, one of the comments he 529 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: had made was, you know, and I've met his wife 530 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 2: once before. She's lovely, but he had said he's like 531 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 2: my wife says, I'm about her father, about her husband, 532 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: about her everything. When I've when I got something to do, 533 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 2: and he's like, he's like, I'm struggling right now. I'm 534 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 2: trying to find what I'm supposed to do next, and 535 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 2: you know, and you do. Hear this a lot with 536 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 2: professional athletes, especially in the NFL and the NBA and 537 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: MLB too. I mean all of them really, all the 538 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: all the professional sports. When they come out of those sports, 539 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, who am I now? Right, I've been 540 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: this guy my whole life? Now with the hell am 541 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 2: I supposed to do with myself? 542 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: And they struggle? 543 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 3: That was that was Ryan. That was Ryan. 544 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 4: So he chose to go into firefighting. But he you know, 545 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 4: you dedicate so much of your time. I mean he 546 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 4: was he was a walk on at CU and then 547 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 4: you know, got chosen in the draft, and I he 548 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 4: dedicated his life. Even though he got a college degree, 549 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 4: he was. 550 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 3: All about football. 551 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 4: So I think that's that's it's very similar to the 552 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 4: reason that I went and like trying to like find 553 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 4: myself and figure out what my next steps are after 554 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 4: the kids are gone, and I feel that I feel 555 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 4: like it's a great opportunity for it was a great 556 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 4: opportunity for all. 557 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 3: Of the recruits to figure that out. 558 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 4: So I think that was a great reasoning for him 559 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 4: to be on the show. 560 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: You know, they say ten percent of all high school 561 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: athletes make it into college athletics and then one percent 562 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: of those people make it to the pros. So there's 563 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 2: obviously a major commitment that goes into making it to 564 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 2: that point in your life anyway, So it's like, you know, yeah, 565 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: finding where you're going to go next, and it doesn't 566 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 2: matter if you're a professional athlete or if you're a 567 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 2: television personality or whatever, you know. I mean, we kind 568 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 2: of talked about it yesterday on the interview I had 569 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: with with the. 570 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: Almost Famous team. 571 00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, I've been being this person 572 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: and you have two for twenty some years, right, so 573 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 2: it is who we are and it and then and 574 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: then you become a parent and that becomes who you are, 575 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 2: but you're still the person that you know. And I 576 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: find it flattering that I'll be at dinner with my 577 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 2: family and someone will come over and be like I 578 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: loved you, you know, like it was yesterday time, and 579 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: it's you know, so you you do have this kind 580 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 2: of thing like Ali was alluding to when we talked 581 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: with her the other day. You know, she was talking 582 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: about you know, I tell my daughter I'm not famous, 583 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: and she's like, well, people recognize you from the you know, 584 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: and they want. 585 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: To take pictures with you. And it's like the same. 586 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: You know. I was telling Canyon that story last night. 587 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: We were laughing about it. 588 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I said, I I guess Grayson's right. 589 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 2: You know, when the girl from McDonald's drops off our 590 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 2: our milkshakes and he thinks she wants to take a 591 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 2: picture with me, I'm like, no, honey, she's fourteen dropping 592 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: off milkshakes. 593 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: Trust me. 594 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 5: You know. 595 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: It's good. 596 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,719 Speaker 2: But she doesn't know who I am, you know, but 597 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: it is you know, you do have to find yourself 598 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 2: at some point. And and that was kind of one 599 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: of the reasons why I never really left my day job, 600 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 2: was I I was afraid of if I was completely 601 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: out of the real world, so to speak. You know, 602 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 2: I grew up in the Midwest, so the real world 603 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 2: to me is you go to work every day, and 604 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 2: you know, and I struggled when all I was doing 605 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 2: was television stuff because I'd work for six months and 606 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: I'd be off. 607 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: For six months, and. 608 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 2: Everyone else be like, oh, I cry me a river, 609 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: But I'm like, that's not how I'm wired. I don't 610 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 2: know what to do with myself, and this is going 611 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 2: to get me in trouble, you know. 612 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: And so I went back. 613 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 2: To my day job, even though I kept doing all 614 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 2: the other stuff, fun stuff. But I think it's one 615 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 2: of those things, you know, you get to this point. 616 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 2: I understand why everyone's going on this show. I mean 617 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: I think not everyone. I understand why the sixteen people 618 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 2: who were selected to be on this show did it. 619 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 2: And it's the same reason I would do it. It's the 620 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: same reason that I think you did it. 621 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: You know. 622 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: It was it's time to find out who I am again, 623 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: and let's let's do this, you know. 624 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: And so I get it. 625 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: I get it, and I also get why now, especially 626 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: where the show has at, you know, with with you 627 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 2: leaving when you did, the show takes a time turned 628 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 2: to a little bit more of a physicality that that 629 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 2: kind of like the milling thing. And then it also 630 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 2: goes into this like teamwork makes a dreamwork type of phase, 631 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 2: and I think you would have done great there, you 632 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 2: know for sure. But getting to that point, they went 633 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: through these two really difficult moments that weeded out four 634 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 2: more people, you know, they I mean the show changed 635 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: considerably from the top of the episode where you leave 636 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: to the end of last night's episode. 637 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it became a totally different show. 638 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 4: I feel, yeah, yeah, I agree, and like I mean, 639 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 4: like I said, this is one of the reasons that 640 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 4: I that I keep going back to for trying to 641 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 4: you know, ease my whatever you want to call it, 642 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 4: fomo or regret, and that is just that I I 643 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 4: didn't want to come home with an injury, a permanent injury, 644 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 4: be hospitalized, you know, have to have surgery, all of 645 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 4: those things you just you just never know. So I 646 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 4: am I am glad that I chose to leave when 647 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 4: I did and all the events that kind of happened 648 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 4: as they did to lead up to my departure. But 649 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 4: it is hard to watch, you know, like you know, 650 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 4: hard to see because even though the water was freezing 651 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 4: for the boat challenge, you know, I feel like all 652 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 4: the water was freezing anytime we got in the water 653 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 4: and I actually was fine with the water challenges oddly enough, 654 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 4: which is crazy to me. 655 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: I think you would have done fine in that one. 656 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 4: Actually I feel like that one. Like but so Ryan 657 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 4: was on fear factor. They always say that I was 658 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 4: on fear factor. I literally appeared to like give him 659 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 4: a kiss, like I was not on fear factor. 660 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 2: I just talked about this yesterday because they called me 661 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 2: to do fear factor. 662 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: I think is it back? 663 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 3: Oh, oh, you mean back then? 664 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 2: Back then, and I have talked about this. I can't 665 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 2: believe I've never told you this. And I was like, 666 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 2: no way, and they go, what do you mean you're 667 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 2: an athlete. I'm like, I am not going to eat anything. 668 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 2: It was about the eating things, and I remember saying 669 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: at the time, I said, I'm not gonna sit there 670 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: and chomp on bull balls in you know whatever. And 671 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 2: they they laughed and they're like, well, Ryan Sutter is 672 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 2: gonna do what we thought the two of you together 673 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: would be great. And I'm like, I would do anything 674 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 2: with Ryan, Honestly, God, I would. 675 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, but I'm not doing that. I'll jump out 676 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: of a helicopter, I'll. 677 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 2: Do whatever, But when it comes I'm eating stuff that's moving, 678 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: I'm not doing And it was funny because I told 679 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 2: that story yesterday to somebody or to the almost famous 680 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 2: Career and they were laughing. But I was like, you 681 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 2: guys know, I know myself, like I know physical, physical 682 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 2: challenges don't frighten me. 683 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: Like I'm not afraid of heights. 684 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 2: I'm not afraid of I'm not claustrophobic like Ben was 685 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 2: saying he's pretty claustrophobic. 686 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm good with that. 687 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 2: I'm like, but if someone puts something in front of 688 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 2: me that's moving or that's foreign to me, like I'll 689 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: eat anything, like if you if you know, I've been 690 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 2: in Italy and they bring out a fish and you know, 691 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: the eyes are still in it and they're like, you know, 692 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: you should really eat the cheeks. 693 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, how do I do that? You know, 694 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: I'll try that. Yeah, I don't like it, but I'll 695 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: try it. 696 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. 697 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, you bring out something that 698 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 2: just still has steam rising off of it. 699 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 1: Not thanks, man, I'm good. 700 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 3: No, same same no. 701 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 2: So. 702 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 4: On Fear Factor, they did this challenge where they were 703 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 4: in a cage and the cage was like three quarters underwater, 704 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 4: like you maybe underwater up to here, and then they 705 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 4: spun it and you were spinning, and so you would 706 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 4: go underwater and then come back up and have a 707 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 4: breath and then spin and you had to unlock a 708 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 4: bunch of locks to get out of the cage. And 709 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 4: he was Ryan said, I the water stuff, that kind 710 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 4: of stuff, when you're locked in a cage is really hard. 711 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 4: Like mentally you have to be like legitimately. 712 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 3: Like it's okay to stay calm. 713 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 4: I kept hearing Brody say stay calm, stay calm to 714 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 4: someone whoever was doing it, maybe it was Kayla, and 715 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 4: it's true, like you, I think in those moments. The 716 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 4: only reason that I feel like I could have passed 717 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 4: that one is because I feel like in those those 718 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 4: water moments, I was able to get past the cold 719 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 4: and just focus on the task. And they give you 720 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 4: a couple opportunities to come back up, take a breath, 721 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 4: go back down, come back. So if I would be 722 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 4: would have been able to do that, then I think 723 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 4: I would have done okay. 724 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, they left that, they left that way. Yeah, 725 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: also people could go up and breathe. You know you 726 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 1: brought up Brody Jenner, I did want to make sure 727 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: we touched on this. 728 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 2: You know, I think this show is uh better for 729 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 2: some people than others, right from the standpoint of image rehab. 730 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 2: And yeah, not that he needed image rehab, but no, right, 731 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 2: I really I've always really liked Brody Jenner, but watching 732 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 2: him on this show and his Mirrored Room conversation last night, 733 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 2: he talked a lot about the Bruce Caitlyn thing. Yeah, 734 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 2: and uh, you know, he he said, he's like, I 735 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 2: felt abandoned. Uh, He's like, you know, I'll never forget 736 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 2: my dad marries into this new family and they've got 737 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 2: a bunch of kids, and next thing you know, they're 738 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 2: in and the one of the one of the DS's 739 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 2: was like, was that is that the family we all 740 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 2: know from the show. 741 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: And he's like yes, and he's like, how did that 742 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: make you feel? 743 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 2: He's like, I felt abandoned, you know, I felt like 744 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 2: I didn't have my dad anymore and he didn't come 745 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 2: around and I needed him, you know. And it's like 746 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,959 Speaker 2: then he transitions to become Caitlin, and you know, and 747 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 2: and and and Brodie is very respectful of that too, 748 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 2: and the d s's were very respectful of that as well. 749 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: I thought. 750 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 2: But it was like one of those things where you're 751 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 2: watching this this guy and you always just assume that 752 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 2: these people have they have. 753 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: It all right. 754 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 2: Oh, you know, and I've known Brody. I've known Brodie 755 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 2: for years. I met him several times. Thought he was 756 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 2: really nice. I shouldn't say I know him like we're buddies, 757 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 2: but I know of him and we have friends in common, 758 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 2: and everybody who. 759 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: Knows him loves him. 760 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 2: Man. And yeah, I will say watching him on the show, 761 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 2: I think I think it gives America a chance to 762 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 2: love him too, because some people probably just hate him 763 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 2: because he's the rich kid who you know, had a TV. 764 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: Show on the Hills. Yeah, he's in the Hills. 765 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 2: And it was like, you know, he didn't really give 766 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,720 Speaker 2: a chance to show who he was on the Hills. 767 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: He was a character, you know, they all were. And man, 768 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 1: he's just I. 769 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 2: Think coming through, at least from me from a viewership perspective, 770 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 2: I'm like loving this guy and I and I'm seeing 771 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 2: a grit about him that you wouldn't expect some you know, 772 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 2: silver spoon kid to. 773 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: Have, right and and uh. 774 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 2: And it's like it's impressive, It's really impressive. I was 775 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure I said that because I think, 776 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 2: you know, I have predictions. 777 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: Now that I think it's time for me to start 778 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: making some predictions. And I know you can't make them. 779 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 3: I can't because I know, but I will know. 780 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 4: So I do want to say that I totally agree 781 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 4: with you the Brodie thing. I think that you're right. 782 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 4: He didn't need a redemption story. It's not like he's 783 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 4: done anything you know, that needs redeeming. But I really 784 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 4: feel like like he is kind of coming into his 785 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 4: own in this show. 786 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: You know, like girl he's talking about. 787 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 3: She's adorable. 788 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 1: This for her. 789 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 4: I know, he's such a proud dad talking about his family. Yeah, 790 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 4: he just he is in love with his girls and 791 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 4: you know, they're they're adorable and amazing, and I feel 792 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 4: like they have a pretty a pretty great life. 793 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 3: And I just I've loved that too. 794 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 4: I love I loved getting to know him. Uh yeah, anyway, 795 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 4: I totally agree with you. 796 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 2: So there was a there was a statement on the 797 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 2: show last night that I totally agreed with. It was 798 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 2: they were talking about kids and he saw about his daughter, 799 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 2: and Cam was talking about his kids and Golden talking 800 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 2: about his kids, and it was it was a guy. 801 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: Thing, so you know it was. 802 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 2: But one of the guys said, you know, it doesn't matter. 803 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a DS that said this. 804 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 2: I'm not sure who said it, but I was like, 805 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 2: oh my god, it just caught my attention. And they said, 806 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't matter how great or how terrible 807 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,720 Speaker 2: of a parent you had. When you become a parent, 808 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 2: the goal has to be that you want to give 809 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 2: your kids a better life than you had, and you want. 810 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 1: To get better. Was that Carrie? 811 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so touching. I was like, oh wow, 812 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 2: that was powerful and I totally agree with it, you know. 813 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, there I go again. I cry every time 814 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,839 Speaker 2: I talk about my kids. But early, come on, guys, 815 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 2: give me. 816 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 4: A break in it's early. Okay, So what are your predictions? 817 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 2: So okay, So I I think and I don't. I'd 818 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 2: never I'll be honest. This is probably a horrible admission 819 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 2: to make. But I've never seen the end of this show, 820 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 2: like All the Sea since previous I know Bachelor people 821 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 2: have wanted a couple of times. I've not watched it, 822 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 2: so I don't know how they decide how the end 823 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 2: of this thing goes. But if I had to, you know, 824 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 2: I'm going to divide it into like like two camps here. 825 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 2: I think I think if there's does it have to 826 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 2: be two people that win? 827 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: Is that how it goes? Or not win? 828 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 3: But as many as finished? 829 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: Okay, So I think I think. 830 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 2: I think Cam Newton uh, just from his sheer physical 831 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 2: ability to do things clearly are out of his wheelhouse, 832 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 2: but he gets it done his his his pure athleticism. 833 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,439 Speaker 2: I think he's going to make it very very far. 834 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 2: I think Carrie Heart's going to make it very very far. 835 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 2: I think Brody Jenner is going to make it very 836 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,959 Speaker 2: very far. And I also think. 837 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: That Kayla is a Kayla Nicole Ka Nicole. I think 838 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: Kayla Nicole, I think those are going to be our 839 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 1: for left standing. I think I think she is a force. 840 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, she is, you know, and I think I said 841 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 2: it in an earlier episode. I was touched by, you know, 842 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 2: the way she handled the whole thing and giving compliments 843 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 2: that Taylor Swift and everything else. But I didn't know 844 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 2: who she was until this show. I had no clue, 845 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 2: you know, I'm like, why is this person there? You know? 846 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 3: No, I'll tell you my story. 847 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 4: I got to tell you my story about how so 848 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 4: we were in the vehicle and the vehicle together, I 849 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:37,720 Speaker 4: feel like the first vehicle, which was driving from the 850 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 4: boat that we got pushed into the water and had 851 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 4: to swim to the next task or going to accommodations. 852 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 4: And she was in the car with me, and I 853 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 4: was like, so, what's your sport? 854 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember you told me that. 855 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. She was like, I don't really have 856 00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 3: a sport. 857 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 4: And I was like I didn't know how to to ask, like. 858 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: How do I know you? Yeah? 859 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, how do I know you? What are you? What 860 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 3: are you known for? Why did they why? Why are 861 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,760 Speaker 3: why are you doing the show? Like what's your reason? 862 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 4: And I probably should have just said that, but I 863 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 4: just assumed because she is a physical like. 864 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,240 Speaker 3: A powerhouse. 865 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah that I was like, naturally, she she is. 866 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 4: She just seems like an athlete, right, and she is 867 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 4: an athlete, but just not in the like Olympic term, 868 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 4: you know, athlete when we have all of these other 869 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 4: Olympic athletes. So yeah, yeah, she is a powerhouse. And yeah, 870 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 4: that's a good list. 871 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 2: Now I think that's my list, But then I gotta 872 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 2: be honest. I feel like Christy Romano. She could she 873 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 2: could be at the end of that Chris Carlson Roman 874 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 2: She's tough, you know, like she was showing showing her grit, 875 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 2: you know, getting kind of pissed off when they were 876 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 2: on the on the raft and then she was a 877 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 2: team leader in one thing, and you know, she's she's 878 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 2: got her team, a bunch of really strong personalities and 879 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 2: she's trying to She was the last person picked, and 880 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 2: so was Kyla. 881 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: And they flipped the script and they let those two 882 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: lead and another segment. 883 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 2: And and Christy Carlson Romano's team wins, just barely, but 884 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 2: they win, come from behind him win, And uh, it 885 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 2: was it was interesting because she a totally different side 886 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 2: of her came out. 887 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 1: I was like, holy shit. 888 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, it's it's gonna be really interesting 889 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 2: to see as this show winds down. 890 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:52,240 Speaker 1: But but in my mind, I can, I can. Another 891 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 1: one is what's the woman's name? 892 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 2: Is it? 893 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:59,959 Speaker 1: Alana? The pro surfer model. She's been so under the radar. 894 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 2: After talking to Christy about that, you know how her 895 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 2: husband had said stay under the radar and just don't 896 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 2: don't be a show voter and a complaint. Yeah, she's 897 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 2: not she has not been any of those things, and 898 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 2: she's continuously moving forward. She might be someone actually who 899 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 2: comes from out of nowhere and surprises me on this one, because. 900 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: At one point Ystagram, I'm like, who the hell's that person? 901 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 1: Like I almost hadn't even seen him yet. 902 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 2: I hadn't even seen her yet, and then all of 903 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 2: a sudden, there she is, and and she was doing something, 904 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 2: you know, really well. 905 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: I think it was with the boat or something. 906 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 2: She was just you know, partnering, and she and Kylo 907 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 2: were just digging in. And so yeah, I think, I 908 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 2: don't know. I guess I got five still in my 909 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:48,879 Speaker 2: mind goes five at the end, but I mean it's not. 910 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,839 Speaker 1: Really a stretch, right, there's only uh, I think there's 911 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,720 Speaker 1: six seven left. 912 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 3: There's there's eight eight left, right, Yeah. 913 00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 2: Let's see, there's Brody, Brody and Carrie, Kyla and Alana. 914 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 2: Then you've got Golden, cam Christie and. 915 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: Caylen Nicole. 916 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 2: So yeah, man, I gotta be honest, I think and 917 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 2: I love Golden and I hate to say this, but 918 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 2: I think I think Golden like after this last episode, 919 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 2: he was really down on himself, like really down. 920 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, they show him like punching the burkins with all 921 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 4: the sand on his face still because didn't he lose. 922 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 4: He just didn't stand like he didn't do as well 923 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 4: as he thought he would probably in the leadership task. 924 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 1: Well he's a born leader, I mean, you know. 925 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, he thought he failed his team and and that 926 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 4: you remember when I was like consoling him, kind of 927 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 4: consoling him in the vehicle, saying it's okay, I've got 928 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 4: I've got you, You've got me, We've all got each other. 929 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 4: And and I think he just is so hard on 930 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 4: himself when when he isn't able to lift people up 931 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 4: to help them, and I think he felt bad about that. 932 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,840 Speaker 4: Obviously he was. He was upset in the in the vehicle. 933 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. 934 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 4: It is interesting, and I'm I can't wait for. 935 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 3: You to see like I want to see. 936 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 4: Obviously then I wasn't there, so I know what happens, 937 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 4: and I know the kind of task that they do 938 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 4: and who makes it to the end. 939 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 3: But it'll be really interesting to see it all unfold. 940 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 2: Kyla said something in the last night's episode that I 941 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 2: thought was great too. She's like I teach my kids 942 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 2: there's there is no failure. That word doesn't exist to me, 943 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 2: and I thought that was great too. She's like, you know, 944 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I mean, it's kind of like 945 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,399 Speaker 2: the Tom Brady addage. You know, it's not win or lose, 946 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 2: it's win or learn. And I've always loved that. 947 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:56,399 Speaker 4: Oh wow, I love that tea so and honestly, that 948 00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 4: one helps me process because you know, it's not failure 949 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 4: quote unquote. If you know, you can call me a failure. 950 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 4: I'm sure there are plenty of people on Reddit that 951 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 4: are calling me a failure, like we were talking about 952 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 4: with Ali. But I'm gonna look at it like that. 953 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,320 Speaker 4: I'm gonna look at it like it wasn't a failure. 954 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 4: It was just my journey, and my journey due to 955 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 4: you know, certain reasons. Uh, it just came to an 956 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 4: end sooner than you know, most other people and then 957 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 4: the know a. 958 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: Lot longer than a lot of people on this show. 959 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 3: I mean, uh yeah, I know, I know, I know. 960 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 4: I was the fourth well, and honestly, I was technically 961 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:54,320 Speaker 4: the third because because I we woke up that morning 962 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,760 Speaker 4: and Ali was still in it. She was still going 963 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 4: like like she was going to go on parade, and 964 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 4: so I was leaving and they were all out in 965 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 4: the parade square and she got asked to leave the 966 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 4: parade square, so I had already left, so technically I 967 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,959 Speaker 4: was the third person to leave, even though they show 968 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 4: Ali leaving as the third person. 969 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: I wonder why they made that choice. You know that 970 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 1: I don't know. 971 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. 972 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 4: I don't no idea. Yeah, I don't know. I just 973 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 4: I love that we're watching again. I love recapping these episodes, 974 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 4: and it'll be fun to watch all. 975 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 3: A'll obviously watch the next episode, but it's just it was. 976 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 4: It was crazy town yesterday, like justriving, driving here and 977 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 4: there and everywhere, and trying to pack and trying to 978 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 4: pay bills and do things that I had to do 979 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 4: before we leave until tuesday, and. 980 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 2: You lived it right, and you lived it. So it's 981 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 2: like there's a point of which I understand totally. You know, 982 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 2: I do love doing this, and I hope our listeners 983 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 2: are loving it too, because I am feeling like I'm 984 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,760 Speaker 2: learning so much about so many people. This has been 985 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 2: fascinating for me. I don't know why this one has 986 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,720 Speaker 2: been particularly gripping for me. It was kind of funny 987 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 2: they were asking me yesterday. 988 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 5: On the almost famous podcast with Ben and And and Ashley, 989 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 5: and they asked me, They're like, you know, why do 990 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 5: you think the Golden Bachelor cast seems to prefer you 991 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:23,879 Speaker 5: guys over us? 992 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, they say people like to identify, 993 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 2: like to talk with people their own age. 994 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 1: That's probably why. And I'm their age, trist is not, 995 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: but I am. And And it was funny, you know, 996 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: but it was one of those. 997 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,240 Speaker 2: Moments where you know, I don't know why this show 998 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 2: has me so just wrapped, but it does, like I 999 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 2: find myself just kind of like, you know, following it 1000 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:45,320 Speaker 2: to such a degree. 1001 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 1: It's it's like, I don't know. 1002 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to the next week's episode cause 1003 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,880 Speaker 2: I think I think a lot is going to shake out, 1004 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 2: I really do. I mean, it's going to be like 1005 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 2: the way this one was where we drop a lot 1006 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,399 Speaker 2: of people dropped. I think I think next week's probably 1007 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 2: gonna be the same way. So it'll be a saying 1008 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:00,879 Speaker 2: to see how it goes. 1009 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,759 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm dying to I'm gonna I'll go listen obviously, 1010 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 4: But you guys were talking about special forces when you 1011 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 4: talk to Ashley and Ben. 1012 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 2: Only only just in I don't even know if it'll 1013 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 2: be in the interview other than we were talking about 1014 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 2: you know. It was it was like the lead up 1015 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 2: to the new Bachelor season, and so they're interviewing all 1016 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 2: the bachelor's and we the episode is not even out yet, 1017 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 2: but we we talked. They just talked about almost famous 1018 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 2: dogs and you know what we do on the show, 1019 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 2: and you know the fact that people really seem to 1020 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 2: like it, and and I was like, yeah, right now, 1021 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,760 Speaker 2: we're we're recapping the Special Forces, you know, because Trista 1022 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 2: was on that and Trista's you know the reason I'm 1023 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 2: even here right going on Trista's. 1024 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,879 Speaker 1: Season and stop it. 1025 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 2: They didn't even they didn't even know the whole Oprah thing, 1026 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 2: you know that they didn't even know that about that. 1027 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:46,360 Speaker 3: I forget. 1028 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 2: No, they didn't know the whole Like I was like, yeah, 1029 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,240 Speaker 2: I was, you know, I was a guest on oprah 1030 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 2: show like twelve times while The Bachelorette was airing. And 1031 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 2: then Oprah's like, I want Bob to be the next Bachelor, 1032 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 2: and that was pretty much it, you know, and yeah, 1033 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 2: I'm like I was really enjoying my lovable loser role 1034 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 2: that I was playing. Oh, like, you know, everywhere I went, 1035 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 2: I'm the guy that was I can't believe she didn't 1036 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 2: pick in. 1037 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:15,279 Speaker 1: Like, trust me, she made the right choice. But I 1038 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 1: did love hearing it, right, I'm like, yeah, you're right. 1039 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:20,400 Speaker 3: I love it. 1040 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 4: Okay, yay, Well, yeah, I'm sorry that we had to 1041 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 4: wake up so early. I know it's not as early 1042 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 4: for you, but I'm sorry we had to wake up 1043 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 4: so early because of my flights. But this has been 1044 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,800 Speaker 4: so fun and I hope that everyone out there continues 1045 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,720 Speaker 4: to watch Special Forces. If you can't watch on Wednesday 1046 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 4: nights on Fox, then you can stream it on Hulu 1047 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 4: starting the day after. So hopefully everyone can watch this 1048 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 4: really like we you know, we have this text thread 1049 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 4: with everybody, and last night it was blowing up and 1050 00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 4: how funny is this one? 1051 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 3: So brody was. 1052 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 4: Like I almost spit my drink out when I heard 1053 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 4: Ben Affleck looking ass, Like when when Golden was talking. 1054 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 2: He's like, he's just handsome Hollywood Ben Affleck looking ass 1055 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:15,880 Speaker 2: walking around. 1056 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 3: I thought it was so cute. 1057 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:25,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really fun, Kayla said, I might be biased, 1058 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,919 Speaker 4: but our season and cast is definitely the best, and. 1059 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 3: I I agree. 1060 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 4: I feel like we had such we got so lucky, 1061 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 4: which is part of the reason that I have that 1062 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 4: fomo with the cast. Everyone is incredible and from such 1063 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 4: different walks of life. 1064 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 3: You know. 1065 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:49,360 Speaker 4: Even there like three or four four Olympic athletes, they're 1066 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 4: you know, they're in totally different sports. So it's like, 1067 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,359 Speaker 4: I think Landon and Marion realized that they were at 1068 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 4: the Olympics at the same time. 1069 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 1: We did those Olympics. Now that's crazy. 1070 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so cool. So I just I love our cast. 1071 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 4: I love the show. I'm just so grateful to have 1072 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 4: been part of it, and I hope everyone keeps watching. 1073 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a big fan, so I'll be watching, that's 1074 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 2: for sure. So thank you guys for joining us almost 1075 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 2: famous to OG's. We love it when you tune in 1076 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,759 Speaker 2: and get a lot of feedback, so thank you for 1077 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,839 Speaker 2: the feedback after our episodes. We always really appreciate that too, 1078 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,240 Speaker 2: So thanks for listening in and make sure. 1079 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 1: You keep on doing it, keep us, keep us around. 1080 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 2: We got more fun stuff coming and more special Forces 1081 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 2: coming too, right when more cast members and a couple 1082 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 2: more of the DS's and we've got a lot of 1083 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 2: stuff lined up. 1084 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, very excited to be bringing. 1085 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 4: It to you guys, same same, Okay, well this is 1086 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,839 Speaker 4: Lucky Number thirteen signing off. 1087 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 1: Well done recruit. 1088 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 4: Thanks