1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Ron Anian, it's probably the difference as an educated guest 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: between spending three grand or five grand. But I'm sure 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: the after market would have something like that. I'm sure 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Facebook could help fix that. I'm sure all the experts 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: out on Facebook could solve this for three dollars and 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: eighty three cents, because they're all geniuses. The Car Doctor. 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: I have a twenty twenty two four diade and in 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: the first eighteen thousand miles I put on three catalytic converters. Wow, 9 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: catalytic converters don't go bad. Something breaks them. 10 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio home of ron Ananian, the Car Doctor. 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 12 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 13 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: the phone and call in the garage doors. 15 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: Are open, but I am here to take your call 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: at eighty five five five six, ninety nine hundred and now. 17 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: Running. 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: Do you have trouble driving at night? I think a 19 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: lot of us. Do you know? A recent article by 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: the American Optometric Association optometry optometric actually is what they 21 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: call themselves, reports that many drivers compare about glare due 22 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: to the HID and LED lights the vehicles now have now. 23 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: And I read the article and it's interesting they actually 24 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: talk about, Tom, do you have problems seeing at night? 25 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: To you, right, you're on the road a lot. You're 26 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: you're traveling all over creation in your in your weekday job. 27 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 3: Right. Well, you know it's funny. 28 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: I went to the eye doctor yesterday and she asked 29 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: that question. 30 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 3: I said, not really, I said, until I encounter those 31 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: led headlights coming right at. 32 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: Me, right, and then that's a problem. Now they're saying, 33 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: and where did it say it in this article? I 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: have it in front of me. They talk about that 35 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: we have problems with because there's strategies for improving night vision, 36 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: and they talk about dry eye if you have dry eyes, 37 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: and they talk about using drops to improve your night vision, 38 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: that if your eye is lubricated, it will affect how 39 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: the vision is distorted or how the light is perceived 40 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: by the eye and whether or not it's allowed to 41 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: be distorted and thereby help improve night vision. But this, 42 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: this is a real thing the article talks about, is 43 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: difficulty driving at night, the same as night blindness. And 44 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: it also says, no, there's there's actually two different versions 45 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: of this because it has to do with pupil dilation, 46 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: and you know that's that's difficulty driving at night. But 47 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: night blindness, which is and I'm gonna I'm going to 48 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: destroy this word is Niceetellopia n y C T A 49 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: l O p i A is a condition which someone 50 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: is extreme difficulty or loses the ability to see in 51 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: the darker, dimly lit areas. One of the more common 52 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: eye conditions that cause night blindness is called retinopus retinitis 53 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: pigmentosa or RP. You understand why I'm not a medical doctor, right, 54 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: And this affects the eye in a way that makes 55 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: the patient literally blind at night. According to sources, rettiness 56 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: ret to night as pig mendosa is a genetic disease 57 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: in which symptoms often manifest in childhood. So it's interesting, right, 58 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: all this time, I thought it was related to the 59 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: bright lights, because it seems like the lights on cars 60 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: it's just getting worse. You know, this is like a 61 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: battle of who's going to be the brightest winds. It 62 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: just seems like the manufacturers just keep on adding more 63 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: and more light output and more. I've got this crazy 64 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: idea I think if we wanted to improve it, let's 65 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: get rid of the street lights. Okay, let's just put 66 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: giant umbrellas under over the overall the cars, and then 67 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: we'll have lights shooting straight up against the umbrellas, and 68 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: everybody will be like their own little white bubble going 69 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: down the road. Then you'll be able to see what's 70 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: in front of you. It's it's uh, it's crazy. 71 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: It's a. It's a. 72 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: It's definitely a. It's definitely a problem. So there's a 73 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: great article. Where was this, Oh, this is on Yahoo 74 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: News Research. Kathy sent this to me this week, and 75 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: you know they talk about it. They also had some suggestions. 76 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: The American Optametric Association a few nighttime driving tips to 77 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: include to improve your nighttime driving experience. When oncoming headlights 78 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: are bright, ease off the gas and maintain your position 79 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: on the road by monitoring the lanemarker until the vehicle passes. 80 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: You know, and I know someone she has a problem 81 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: with glare right with the lights coming up behind her. 82 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: So you have to be careful with the rear view 83 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: mirror too. You want to clean the windshield inside and out, 84 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: and that's true. I can't tell you how many cars 85 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: I get in for customers to go on a road test, 86 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: and you know, if I take it home at night 87 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: the next morning, when you're driving and it's dimly lit, 88 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: the amount of dirt on the inside of the windshield, 89 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: you just you wonder what they're doing in there. You 90 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: could try using fog lights instead of high beams during 91 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: a foggy night. I never really saw a value in 92 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: fog lights. I got to be honest. I've got a 93 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: couple of vehicles with fog lights. I don't think they 94 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: do anything. I think, you know, if it's an outside application, 95 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: if it's a jeep, then you're mounting fog lights up higher. 96 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: You're putting an aftermarket fog light on something, a vehicle 97 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: and suv whatever. I think, then you've got a chance. 98 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: But I think fog lights from manufacturers personally, I think 99 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: they've been newter to the point that it's just it's 100 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: there for show and to be able to say, hey, 101 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: we've got fog lights on the carts an extra five 102 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: hundred bucks. I don't think they do anything in real life. 103 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: I really don't. I don't. I just don't see it. 104 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: The article then continues. You can turn down dashboard lights 105 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: to reduce glare. Yeah, I agree with that. Sometimes we 106 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: have the dashboard lights up too bright. Wear prescription glasses 107 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: with an anti reflection coating. Now that I hadn't thought about, 108 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: you know, and I wear glasses. I wonder if I 109 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: have an anti reflection car. I probably do. Most glasses 110 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: probably are that way. Keep blinking while driving to wardoff 111 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: dry eye and aim dashboard vents away from the face 112 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: to keep the eyes from getting dried out. I never 113 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: realized that that your eyes could be dry enough that 114 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: it would, you know, cause nipe blindness like that, or 115 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: discomfort driving, and it is. I have to say. This 116 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: article talks about you know, in your twenties on up. 117 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: I you know. Now I'm a little older, a little 118 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: older than the twenties, And yeah, there's an uncomfortableness driving 119 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: at night. Sometimes it sure is dark out quick, you know, boy, 120 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it gets. It gets dark out fast, 121 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: it seems so just just something to be aware of, 122 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: you know. So if you if you suffer from that, 123 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: if you go to Yahoo and look up you know, 124 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: night driving, you'll get to read the whole article in 125 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: its entirety. But I thought that was I thought that 126 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: was a good piece, you know, I thought that was interesting. 127 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: I would share that with you. I want to tell 128 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: you about quick update the O eight Jeep, the OA 129 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: Jep Grand Cheroke SRT eight that we were waiting for. 130 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: The drive shift finally came in this week, six and 131 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: a half weeks to get a drive shift. That vehicle 132 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: has been sitting six and a half weeks for a 133 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: dry shift that we couldn't find anywhere else, and put 134 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: the drive shift in. The vehicle's gone. It's perfect. Down 135 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: the road, customers very happy, and it just made me think, 136 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, is this a sign of the future. Is 137 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: this a sign of the times? Are we just going 138 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: to not be stuck but for lack of lack of parts? 139 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: You know? 140 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: Is it those vehicles that we're hanging on to? And 141 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: I think it is if you know, you start to 142 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: think about the critical areas. You know, I've done it 143 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: with some of my older vehicles. I have purchased parts 144 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: and I have them stored in nice dry areas, you know, 145 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: just because I know the things that are going to 146 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: go away, and you know, six weeks to get a 147 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: drive shift just just terrible. By the way, the dry 148 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: shift was twenty three or twenty four hundred dollars at 149 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: a Chrysler. So yeah, that's the other problem. I think 150 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: that's how they're going to get us out of the 151 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: older cars. They're just going to, you know, make the 152 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: cost of using them so expensive that you'll be forced 153 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: to buy something new. And whether or not you like 154 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: it or not, that's that's a conversation for a whole 155 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: nother day. Anyway, Let's open up the phones before we 156 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: go to the break real quick. Let's talk to Tom 157 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: in Arizona because the list is long today and see 158 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: what's going on here. Tom. Welcome to back to the 159 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: car doctor, sir. What's going on with the buick today? 160 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: Thank you? 161 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: Master flow sensor failed. I saw it with my parents 162 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 4: and it fixed it. So I'm looking to buy another one. 163 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 4: What do you recommend? Original are after Mark market? They're 164 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 4: pretty expensive. They're over one hundred dollars. Uh, aftermarket with 165 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 4: the part stores have lifetime warranties. The other ones that 166 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 4: are OE are one your warranty? 167 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 168 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: And how how much is the OE? 169 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:19,559 Speaker 4: Close to two hundred dollars? 170 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: Can you still get one? 171 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? You know? 172 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: Are you you planning to keep the car? 173 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? The heads up display. 174 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I get it. I'm just asking the questions. Brother, Listen, 175 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a matter of obviously, 176 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: it's a matter of what's in the budget, all right, 177 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: I I think I think the other part of this 178 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: is is the aftermarket mass airflow sensor is it? Is 179 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: it remanufactured or is it manufactured as new? 180 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: Nope? New, it says. 181 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: New, And then I'd probably go for the aftermarket version 182 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: just to save the hundred bucks. Why not? All right? 183 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: It comes with a warranty. You're you're good that way. 184 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, lifetime warranty. Right, so, but I don't want to 185 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 4: take it back. 186 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: Every year, you know. 187 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: Well, no, I understand that too, you know. Just make 188 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: sure you know that whenever you put well, I always 189 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: think about this with mass any mass airflow car. Just 190 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: make sure you've got a good air filter in the car. 191 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're aware of that. I always, you know, 192 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: the majority of mass airflow sensor failures occur as a 193 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: result of or can o car. I shouldn't say the majority, 194 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: but can occur as a result of either a poor 195 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: fitting air filter, an overloaded air filter, or a poor 196 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: quality air filter. 197 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, I think this one's just the miles. Okay, 198 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 4: two hundred and sixty thousand. 199 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's time, it's time. So, yeah, you knows. Mass 200 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: airflow censers operate. Here's a here's a useless piece of 201 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: trivia you'll never need to know. You're ready. Mass airflow 202 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: sensors operate on something called the Wheatstone Bridge and electronics. 203 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: Don't ask me, don't ask me how I remember this. 204 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: When I was in taking electronics classes, they started talking 205 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: about the wheatstone Bridge and wheatstone Bridge is a variable 206 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: resistor platform that they There are four resistors. They know 207 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: what three of the resistance values are. The fourth resistor 208 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: is the unknown that's calculated by the electronics in the sensor, 209 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: and that's how they know how much error is flowing 210 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: through it. I actually wrote a paper on it in 211 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: college that was more pages long than I care to remember. 212 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: And you know it's it's but that's that's also like 213 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: in Ford ignition modules, there's a remember the old four 214 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: distributors where you had the gray ignition module on the 215 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: side of the distributor way back when right there was 216 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: a wendel Meyer trigger with a Schmidt relay. I'll never 217 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: forget that in class too. Some of the names they 218 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: came up with for some of these things. It's just 219 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: you look at the electronics. But anyway, so that's the 220 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: deal Tom, all right. 221 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 4: Sir, So you don't you don't rebuild them then. 222 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: Now, no, we don't. We throw them away. We hope 223 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: for a good warranty and down the road. And if 224 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: you want to see how curate it is, you know 225 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: what you could do is if your parents your parents 226 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: have the same vehicle, I assume the one you borrow 227 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: the mass airflow off of. So just for giggles, you know, 228 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: take out your OBD two scan tool, go into mass 229 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: airflow grams per second. That's a three point eight leader 230 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: in that view of correct, right, see what your mass 231 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: airflow grams per second is at idle. Typically you will 232 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: see grahams per second airflow on a hot engine base 233 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: idol with all things being equal, pretty close to that 234 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: leader displacement size of the engine. So I would expect 235 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: anywhere from three and a half to four and a 236 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: half grams per second at idle. All right, Now, if 237 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: the vehicle runs fine at five, then that's what that's 238 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: the way yours works out. If you're getting optimal performance, 239 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: gas mileage. You know rough, the idol's not smooth, it's 240 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: are the idle smooth? It's not rough, you know what. 241 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: But that's the number you want to know because sometimes 242 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: you'll learn you'll sit as as the wheatstone bridge starts 243 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: to fail, all right, from age the resistance value changes 244 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: that you will see the grams per second change, and 245 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: it's just an easy enough thing to keep track of, 246 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: you know. We we have started a long time ago. 247 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: For regular customers. We will look at certain specific you know, 248 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: sensor values and record them in their file. It's sort 249 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: of like sort of like taking heart rate and blood 250 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: pressure when you go to the doctor. Same same thing, 251 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: different model, all right, kitto. 252 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: Yep, Hey, thanks for the great information document. 253 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. 254 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: Tom. 255 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: You'd be well, I'm running any in the car doctor. 256 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. 257 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: When you gain keep Rhyn's number handy eight five five 258 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 3: five six zero nine nine zero. 259 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: Zero for when you really need advice on your car. 260 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: Here's rock. 261 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: Hey, let's go over to Maryland. Talk to esther oh 262 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: three Corvette Estra. Welcome to the car doctor. How can 263 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: I help? 264 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 5: Thank you? 265 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: You're welcome. 266 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 5: I'm looking for an HVAC control head and they're not 267 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 5: easy to come by. 268 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, your mechanics told you this is what you need, 269 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: and he's saying the parts obsolete? 270 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, okay. 271 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: So where where have you looked under? You know what? 272 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: You know, what sort of distribution have you? Have you 273 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: sourced yet? 274 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 5: I've looked on the internet, but a lot of them 275 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 5: seem like they're they repair the display instead of the 276 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 5: control unit itself. 277 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: What's what's wrong? 278 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 5: And I was thinking that maybe I could go to 279 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 5: a junk yard and fine. 280 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: Well you find one, you could. The problem is you're 281 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: still you know, and I just got to bang the 282 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: drum here a second. This is this is the conversation 283 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: I always have with you guys, right about the electronics 284 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: or what's going to keep us from driving these cars 285 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: in the future, because how can they possibly keep up 286 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: with the electronics. It's just going to make it more 287 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: and more difficult. That that being said, Uh, you know, 288 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: I don't know that they will. You could look at Dormant, 289 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: take a look at Dorman Products dot com. Does Dorman 290 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: happen to remanufacture a control head for this vehicle? That's 291 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: one source. Go to Dorman. Yes, ma'am Dorman Products dot com. Uh, 292 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: you know, I was actually looking for a control head 293 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: for my four suburban and they had one. So I 294 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: was able to purchase a new, all right new, not recondition, 295 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: not remanufacturer, but a new control head from dormant from 296 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: my own oh for suburban and it works fine. So 297 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: you know that's one possibility. Now the other place, you know, 298 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: have you been out to eBay and looked at eBay 299 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: as a consideration, right, and everybody there saying it's refurbished, 300 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: And I agree with you. What's refurbished about it? All right? 301 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: The other thing you could try is up here in 302 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: North Jersey. There's a company by the name of Model Electronics. 303 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: Now I believe they're nationwide. I don't know that for 304 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: a fact, but if you Google searched Model Electronics, they 305 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: are the rebuild center for GM dealers. I've got to 306 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: think they're nationwide, all right. And you know you could 307 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: possibly make arrangements through your mechanic to have him send 308 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: the control head into them and have them go through 309 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: it electronically and refurbish it. If they say they can 310 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: rebuild it, they will rebuild it. For the example that 311 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: as matter of fact they did. My four suburban and 312 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: a lot of my generation suburbans are suburbans of my generation. Tahoes, Silverados, 313 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: et cetera. Had the problem with the instrument cluster where 314 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: the you know, the spinometer, the odometer would go out 315 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: or one of the control motors for the spinometer of 316 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: the tack would fail. Model Electronics was able to go 317 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: through and refurbish and rebuild the whole unit, So you know, 318 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: there's always that possibility. There are electronic rebuilders out there 319 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: of it like this. Once that vehicle is probably more 320 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: than three years old. I don't know too many car 321 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: companies that are still manufacturing new parts for them if 322 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: they're different than a current model. So you know there's 323 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: a there's a chain of or there's a they set 324 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: up rebuilders to rebuild what's out there per se, all right, 325 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: something as old as this, it's twenty years old. I'm 326 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: sure there are sources that will that have been set 327 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: up or that continue to be set up, you know, 328 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: to to refurbish this. Have you looked at Corvette Central? 329 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 5: I did, okay what they have I'm want to say, 330 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 5: I did I have it written down? I don't. I've 331 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 5: got so many nits right now, right, but I had 332 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 5: that written down, Okay. 333 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Corvette Central, because they'll they'll you know, and then 334 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: where are they sourcing it from? Would be the question? 335 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: All right, because you're right sometimes and this is why 336 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of a junk yard part, per se. 337 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: I don't really want to call them junk yards. I 338 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: think they're salvage yards. Uh, you know, they're recyclers. You know, 339 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: junk yard is junk. It's not junk, it's a you know, 340 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: but then you know, where has it been stored? Has 341 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: it been sitting out in a you know, has it 342 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: been sitting out in an environment? Is it is it 343 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: been in a dry room? And then if you get 344 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: a salvage yard part, you know, what do the buttons 345 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: look like? Is display beat up? You know, there scratches 346 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: on it? You know, obviously you care about this vehicle. 347 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: Let's face it, it's a Corvette. It's a fiftieth anniversary edition. 348 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: You know, you're you're you're looking to you know, make 349 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: this into something more, uh than just a part replacement? Correct, Yeah, yeah, 350 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: so all right, but try that. You can also look 351 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: I think it's is it gmobsolete dot com or gmpartsobsolete 352 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: dot com. GM does have an obsolete obsolete parts line 353 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: or website. You can also look. I think it's Vintage 354 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: Auto Parts. Have your mechanic call his GM dealer and 355 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: ask them about the Vintage Auto Parts line, because GM 356 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: has a division in a company relationship with a place 357 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: called Vintage Auto Parts and they house all GM's obsolete parts, 358 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: and maybe they've got it there. But I don't think 359 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: this is an impossible fine. It's just a matter of 360 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: getting the best one for you and hopefully those those 361 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 1: put you on the right trail. Good luck, Esther. I'm 362 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: ronn Andy and the Car Doctor. We're back right after this. 363 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: Don't go away. 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So if we decide to take 373 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: a weekend off, we will give you a fresh show. 374 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: And you know, good information has always that's what we're 375 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: trying to do here. I want to talk a little 376 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: bit about I want to talk about Gene. I'll start here. 377 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: Jean called the shop this week to make an appointment 378 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: for service on his daughter's Toyota Venza, and first words 379 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: out of his mouth were, Hey, you know, since you 380 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: change the trans fluid on my daughter's car, the trans 381 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: shifts better and the problem is gone. And I want 382 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: to comment on that because we've had a few calls 383 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: this weekend from listeners that have fluid, that have had 384 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: fluid changes or are thinking of fluid changes. I don't 385 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: think we talk enough about that that it's really important. 386 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 3: You know. 387 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: We tend to talk about how vehicles. We run vehicles 388 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: into the ground. That's what everybody says. I want to 389 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: drive it into the ground. I want to drive it 390 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: till it stops. Well, yeah, but you know how far 391 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: is the ground and where does the ground exist, and 392 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: where is that moment where it's going to fail? And 393 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: we don't want to get to that point of failure, 394 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: to get to the point where we can, you know, 395 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: continue to drive it safely and not wait until it fails. 396 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: In terms of you know, gee it blew up. Okay, 397 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: let's go buy a new car. How about we keep 398 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: it going even longer. Fluid changers are part of the 399 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: answer to that piece of the puzzle. And it's just 400 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: critical now, just you know, I just want to change 401 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: the transfluid. There is no something is just all right. 402 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: Everything is specific today. There is no universal fits all 403 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: transfluid all right. Everything has to have specific at it is. 404 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: It seems that the newer the vehicle, the more specific 405 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: they get, and the same can be said in the 406 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: majority of cases for drive line fluids, transfer case differentials 407 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: and so on. It's important, you know, I'm not going 408 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: to say it's anyone particular make or model. I see 409 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: it with Toyota, I see it with Ford, I see 410 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: it with GM, I see it across the board. If 411 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: you're changing fluid, make sure it's rated for the vehicle. 412 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: It's specific to the vehicle, all right. Doesn't have to 413 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: be OE because the Oees don't make their own fluids anymore. Anyway. 414 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: They're having for years and years. They're just summing it out. 415 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: The contractors that are you know, marketing under that manufacturer's 416 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: bottle or their own bottle. As long as the bottle 417 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: says meets manufacturerspect for your vehicle, you're good, all right. 418 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: But changing drive line fluids is important, and it's something 419 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: depending upon how you drive, you know, I think about 420 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: drive line fluids at the at the fifty thousand mile mark, 421 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: sixty thousand mile mark, in a lot of cases, you know, 422 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: depending upon what we're driving. I think it's a good 423 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: I think it's a good I think it's a good 424 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: way to go. I really do. I think it's something 425 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: to think about and something to be aware of. So 426 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: just think about drive line fluids. Welcome back to this 427 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: in a minute. Let's go over to Kurt in Pennsylvania, 428 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: Oh seven Volvo x C seventy and a bit of 429 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: a mystery. Kurt, Welcome to the car doctor, sir, How 430 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: can I help? 431 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm good. 432 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: What's going on? 433 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 3: Well? I had a reverse light out that popped it 434 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 3: up at a new ball bin, and I know, I'm 435 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: just when I pulled the light bulb out of the socket, 436 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 3: the whole uh put it back in tail it came 437 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 3: back on. But if I put in reverse the hotel 438 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 3: it goes out again, and the and the bulb does 439 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 3: not go on. 440 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so this started out as a Hey, the bull 441 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: was out, you went to put a new bull then 442 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: and now you put the new bullban and your phone 443 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: broke up? There, Kurt, what happened when you put the bull. 444 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 4: beIN the nothing? 445 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 3: I mean, it's still the same. 446 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: If I put in a reverse, Well, it's always Kurt, 447 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: you there kind of dark. Yeah, you're on a I'm here. Yeah, 448 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: I think you're on a bad cell connection. Try it again, brother, 449 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: when you put it in, you put it in reverse, 450 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: what happens. 451 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 3: The whole tail? It goes out? 452 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: Okay, So somewhere we've somewhere we've got a voltage drop. 453 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: We're we've got a bad we've got a bad connection, 454 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: or we've got an easier path for voltage to take 455 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: than to go across the the the element of the bull, 456 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: the filament of the b. So is there resistance in 457 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: the socket? So my first thought is, you know, do 458 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: you own a test light? Do you have any sort 459 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: of testing equipment where we could pin. 460 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 3: Up I'm not real good or electrical? 461 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, then you. 462 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 3: Know my friend's thing is a bad ground. 463 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: Maybe well, yeah, it could be absolutely absolutely, it could 464 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 1: be a bad ground I would I would go through 465 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: a wiring diagram and look to see, how is that 466 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: How is that socket? Uh, you know grounded? All right? 467 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: What I would what I would actually do is I 468 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: would take the tail light out or find that tail 469 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: light is going to have a body plug all right, 470 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: where it's connected to the rest of the wiring harness, 471 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: and I would go across the contacts of that body plug. 472 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: There's going to be a hot coming back to the 473 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: bulb and a ground I would put my meter across 474 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: that and put it in reverse. Do I see. 475 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 3: Voltage original tailight too? Right? 476 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: Well yeah, but you know the question is is their 477 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: corrosion inside the socket? Is their coron inside the connector? 478 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: All right? So I would start there, does the other 479 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: side work correctly? 480 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 3: Yes? 481 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 1: Okay? Then I would also sit down with a wiring 482 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: diagram and a couple of different colored markers and I 483 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: would I would map everything out how does this circuit work? 484 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: All right? This is that you always hear me talk 485 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: about I always you know, I'll take anywhere from twenty 486 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: minutes to an hour to research a problem before I 487 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: attack it. And this is that twenty minutes and a 488 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: cup of coffee, cup of tea for me. 489 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 3: But you know, take hold out and see take a 490 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 3: battery and do the tests. 491 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: Well that and I would also I also want to 492 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: look at a wiring diagram. I have that luxury all right, 493 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: where you know, how does the circuit work if if 494 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: it's a For example, if it's a common hot back 495 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: from the printle switch that feeds the reverse lights, and 496 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: then the connector splits off at the back of the trunk, 497 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: then I know the feed coming out of the switch 498 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: the prindle the harness come back is all good because 499 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: if it's affecting one it's not affecting the other, then 500 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: it has to be where it splits off and the 501 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: harness becomes separate legs. But if it's a if it's 502 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: two separate shots coming back from the switch, then I 503 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: might have to trace it all the way back up 504 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: to where the connection is made at the switch when 505 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: you move the shifter if you make If you understand 506 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So here's the advantage of where a 507 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: wiring diagram, would you know, break it out? How does 508 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: the circuit split? 509 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: You know? 510 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: Or does the circuit split? So and I think it does. 511 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: I think it's a straight shot coming back if I 512 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: remember correctly. And then it becomes it becomes two connectors, 513 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: one going to the left, one going to the right 514 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: type of a thing. So, but yeah, you sounds like 515 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: you've got a classic case of a bad ground, you know, 516 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: a voltage drop problem. And I'm gonna just say it, 517 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: even though I don't think so. Do you have the 518 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: right bulb? All right? 519 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 3: Just to be sure I do, because it came out 520 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 3: of another bubble tailate, Well, it doesn't. 521 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: That doesn't. That doesn't make it right unless it's the 522 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: one from the other side. Was it the one from 523 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: the other side. 524 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 3: No, it was from a fair tale light that I had. 525 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 3: It was a new bulb. I had replaced the other light, 526 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,479 Speaker 3: and I put the new bulbs. It had came with bulbs, 527 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 3: so I put all the new bulbs in the other one. 528 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: You know, never never assume if it came out of 529 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: a car that it's the right part. Someday I'll tell you, 530 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: guys the story. I'll tell you the story. 531 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 4: Now. 532 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: We had a FOURD pickup truck a couple of weeks 533 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: ago where the customer had to ask for a battery 534 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: replacement and we couldn't determine whether it was supposed to 535 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: be an a GM battery or a conventional battery. And 536 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: we looked at it and it had an AGM battery 537 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: in it, but it was right on the fuzzy edge 538 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: of where Ford started putting a GM batteries in their 539 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: pickup trucks, and we had to actually trace it down 540 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: by then that vehicle actually called for a conventional battery, 541 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: and we put a conventional battery back in. That's what 542 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: the customer wanted. They wanted it as it came out 543 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: of the factory, and that's what we gave them. But 544 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: you can't look at the car and say, you know, 545 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: it's it works, it's right. 546 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 3: You know. 547 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: I'm not saying the AGM or the conventional ones better 548 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: than the other, you know, but I just I never 549 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: assume that's why my back bristles anytime somebody says that. 550 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: So I'm not picking on your current. 551 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 3: Well, I tried to put in one of the LED 552 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 3: kits for the interior lights, right that really screwed everything up. Well, 553 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 3: I had to put the old bubbles back in. 554 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: You're you're pretty gutsy for a guy who's not good 555 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: with electrical. 556 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 3: But just replacing a ball. 557 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: How hard could it be? Famous famous last words, how 558 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: hard could I? 559 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 3: Because when I put the LEDs up, like the lower 560 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 3: feet panels wouldn't light up because I guess the whole 561 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 3: circuitry revolves in voltage feedback. And since you're not only 562 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 3: using partial the voltage, Yeah, it just screw screwed everything up. 563 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: Well, and wait till you find out with all the LEDs. 564 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: And it's also based on it's looking at if it's 565 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: coming out of the body computer, it's looking at voltage 566 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: drop or current draw and to decide what circuits to 567 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: turn on and off and the electronics. That's why they 568 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: have us put resistors in with led kits to get 569 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: the b cms or the one computers to do certain things. 570 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: So LEDs versus conventional lighting is a whole nother story. 571 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 3: Go ahead, I left a message on your thing. I 572 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 3: was watching it. There's a twenty nineteen Dodge Ram, but 573 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 3: only drive thirty three miles and shut down and have 574 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: all these alarms go off. Go to the dealer immediately 575 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 3: pull over and if you put it in park then 576 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 3: it would be locked in the park and they push 577 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 3: a button to stop the engine. It wouldn't stop, and 578 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 3: then after about ten minutes it would shut down automatically. 579 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 3: You could start to think, back up, no alarms, drive 580 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 3: thirty three miles, then you do it all over again. 581 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 3: Do you ever see that video. 582 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that video, but I would have to 583 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: think that's a computer fall, because if it's that precise 584 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: that it's happening like clockwork, I don't think it's the 585 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: thirty three miles. I think it's the timeframe, and I 586 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,959 Speaker 1: would sit there. I would sit there in time. I'll 587 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: tell you what. Let me pull over, take a pause. 588 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, Kurt, because we're runningup against the clock. 589 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: We'll be back to talk about it right after this. 590 00:28:55,200 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: Don't go away. Hey, welcome back. Let's finish up with Kurt. Kurt, 591 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: you're still there, sir, Yes, sir, I have not seen 592 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: that video of the nineteen RAM that goes thirty three 593 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: miles and then dies, you know. 594 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 3: To address yeah, thirty minute video. It took him to 595 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 3: explain it all right. 596 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: I would be thinking about which part of the computer 597 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: network is shutting down, because to me it sounds more 598 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: computer and in terms of failure that it's so specific 599 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: to a mile at a time fence. 600 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 3: It was a failure. It was a wire of three 601 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 3: point five vault something on a block where all the 602 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 3: modulars are plugged into. Okay, he goes, they section the 603 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 3: modulars because there's just so many of them, so they 604 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 3: take them down to like a ten modular per block. 605 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 3: So then he had to pull the blocks out that 606 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 3: he had a list of errors, probably as long as 607 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: your armed, but they they were all canceled when the 608 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 3: cars start back up again. 609 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: Right well, And and and to explain it from a 610 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: different perspective, what what you're talking about and what you 611 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 1: were seeing was when you hear me talk about how 612 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: computer networks go down and pull the whole componentry down, 613 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: that's what you're seeing. So they were they were breaking 614 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 1: it down into section by section trying to figure out 615 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: where the fault was. And that's why I said it 616 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: sounded computer in nature or electrical in nature, that it's 617 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: so specific. It only runs, well, you know, it only 618 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: runs up to a certain point where there's a default value. 619 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: You know. The issue is all the vehicles today have specific, 620 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: shall we say, fail safe modes, and when they reach 621 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: that specific fail safe mode, that's when it you know 622 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: that's when it it will allow it to you know, 623 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: go into that mode and then it resets when you 624 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: when you cycle the key. So but yeah, wiring right, 625 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: it's it's your strong point, Kurt. We could send you 626 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: out to fix that next. 627 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 3: Now narrowed it down to one block. Yeah, and the 628 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 3: unplugged the whole block and all the codes cleared right now. 629 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 3: He checked everything on that block. He checked a wire 630 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,479 Speaker 3: going to the block and here he checked the block. 631 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 3: But I guess this one diode if he checked it 632 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 3: over and over and over or whatever it's called, the 633 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 3: voltage kept climbing up. It was three point five, three 634 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: point six, you know, and he's figuring because of all 635 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 3: at idle it will cool down and be fine. But 636 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 3: when you're driving fifty five and all this information is 637 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 3: going through these things, it would go over four volts 638 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 3: and then shut it down, right, And he just changed 639 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 3: that block out and the guy never had a problem. 640 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 3: He couldn't totally prove it, but it never happened again. 641 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 3: So it was in that. It was it was interesting 642 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 3: as far as you know, not knowing electrical hardly at all, 643 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 3: and how you know it took it took him quite 644 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 3: a while to figure it out. 645 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: Oh sure, listen, I the amount of electronics. I read 646 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: an article the other day that they were talking about 647 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: circuit boards. It was it was return. It was referring 648 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: to a circuit board. I see twelve, and now how there? 649 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: I see thirteen and it started talking in depth. It 650 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: was an in depth electronics conversation that, frankly, was over 651 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: my pay grade to some level. That tells me that 652 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: the vehicles were fortunate they run as good as they 653 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: do for as long as they do because the amount 654 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: of electronics for depending on is is slight overkill in 655 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: my opinion. But they're accomplishing the job. I guess, Kurt, 656 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: I got to go them up against the clock. Good 657 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: to hear from you, man, I make out with your vote. 658 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 3: Thank you too, sir. 659 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: Be well, I'm running any In The Card Doctor. We're 660 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: back right after this. Don't go away. It's second Welcome 661 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: back Running the Card Doctor. The list segment of this week. 662 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: Keep in mind for the future if you want us 663 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: eight five five, five six zero nine nine zero zero, 664 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: and look for the classic Card Doctor posts coming up midweek, 665 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: as well as podcast today's show. We'll get those up 666 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: right after the show today in a couple hours. Let's 667 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: segment I want to talk about it. I've just got 668 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: a question up on Facebook from Bob in the Bronx 669 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: New York ron I've got a twenty three Ford Maverick 670 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: hybrid pickup. My plans are to relocate the truck from 671 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: New York to Fort Myers, Florida, where the truck will 672 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: only be used four months of continuous followed by a 673 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: period of seven to eight months sitting in my garage 674 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: without any usage. Is there any risk of the hybrid 675 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: battery due to non use for many months? I usually 676 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: disconnect the twelve old battery when I store vehicles for 677 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: long periods, But what can you do to save the 678 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: hybrid battery? Thanks Bob. Bob, First of all, look at 679 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: the owner's manual. I know this question has been posed 680 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: to a lot of hybrid owners, and I'm almost certain 681 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: that Ford's got a section in the Owner's manual dedicated 682 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: to long term storage and concerns. I don't know of 683 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: a hybrid concern a hybrid battery concern that they have there. 684 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: Of course, letting it sit like that might cause it 685 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: to discharge over a long period of time, and then 686 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: obviously running the vehicle. We'll obviously charge it back up. 687 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: My biggest concern, quite honestly, is the quality of the gasoline, 688 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: because you know, we've seen issues where even on hybrids 689 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: that are used on a regular basis, certain vehicles driven 690 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: as a hybrid, it can go thirty days. I've seen 691 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: cases of this where they can go thirty days before 692 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: they switch and they run on the gas engine on 693 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: a regular basis, so much so that the gasoline is older. 694 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: And you know, how often do you fill up that hybrid? 695 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: Is it a I know people that tell me, hey, 696 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: I go thirty days forty days between phillips because they 697 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: don't go anywhere. They're going three to six miles a day, 698 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 1: and you know the longevity, the quality of the fuel. 699 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: And I would be more concerned with long term storage 700 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: effects on the gasoline than I would be on the 701 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: hybrid battery. As far as disconnecting the twelve vault battery, 702 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: Bob and for everybody else, I'd put a battery tender 703 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: on it. I wouldn't disconnect it. I'd be that battery 704 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 1: connected because I'd like the vehicle to maintain its memory. 705 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: I think the learning curve is going to be too 706 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: tedious when you get back to it. They have to 707 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: do that every time. Ug I don't want to do that. 708 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: I want to try a battery tender, but I think 709 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: I'd be more concerned the long term storage effects of 710 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: the gasoline, not the other two batteries. I'm not an 711 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: ay and the car doctor reminding you till the next time. 712 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: Good mechanics are inexpensive, they're priceless. See you