1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Live from our nations. This budget thing is going to 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: do nothing spaceports. I still think it's interesting President Trump 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: not playing his cards yet headlines Policy and Politics colliding 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: to sound on with Kevin's relate the insiders, the influencers, 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: the insides. I would rather see a congressional solution. It's 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: part of my DNA. The Senate map in looks a 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: lot different than it looked in. You really have a 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: divide within Team Trump. The president has to do exactly 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: what people send him here to do, which is to 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: get it done. He's sound on with Kevin's related on 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: Bloomberg one and one seven F M h D two 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: Boltimore Trade optimism, Trade optimism. Treasury Secretary Stephen Venusian testified 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: before the Senate a Senate subcommittee earlier today. We'll take 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: you to Capitol Hill where he also briefly spoke with 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: me after the hearing. What he had to say about 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: the status of not just the US China trade talks, 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: but also you m c A not the two point 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: oh and these tariffs auto tariffs, Will they or won't 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: they impact the stealing aluminum commodities markets? Will they already have? 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: Are they gonna keep doing it. Meanwhile, tensions mounting higher 21 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: between the US and Iran. The US has pulled Iraq 22 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: embassy staff as the tensions climb higher over Iran. I'll 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: take you to an interview that I did earlier today 24 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Television with Democratic presidential candidate Seth Malton. He's 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: a Congressman Democrat from Massachusetts. We have an all star 26 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: panel on a policy driven show. Brad Blakeman is a 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: Republican strategist and former deputy assistant to former President George W. 28 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: Bush and Antoine Seawright. Making his debut on the program. 29 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: He is a Democratic strategist and the founder and CEO 30 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: of Blueprint Strategy. He's a former advisor to the Hillary 31 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: Clinton campaign. Speaking of Democratic presidential candidates, Steve Bullock, the 32 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: governor of Montana, who just announced this week he's throwing 33 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: his name into the race. He's going to check in 34 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: with us on the phone line before we get to 35 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: a jam Pact show. Awesome show. Breaking news tonight. President 36 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: Donald Trump signing an executive order on Wednesday that could 37 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: restrict Chinese telecommunication firms Huawei and Zte from selling their 38 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: equipment in the US. Folks, the headlines are crossing the 39 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: Bloomberg terminal now on this it is absolutely going to 40 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: ratchet up the battle for control over the new five 41 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: G technology networks and cast a shadow over the US 42 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: China trade talks. Coming up. On the program, I'll play 43 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: for you a portion of my interview with Senator Marcia Blackburn. 44 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: She's a Republican from Tennessee. She had a lot to 45 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: say about Huahwei uh and critical of Huawei and US 46 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: companies doing business with Huawei. With me in studio for 47 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: the hour All Star panel. Brad Blakeman, Republican strategist, former 48 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: deputy assistant to President George W. Bush, and Antoine Seawright. 49 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: It's his first time on the program. We're thrilled to 50 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: have him here. Democratic strategist, founder and CEO of Blueprint Strategy. 51 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: I always see him on MSNBC, and his former advisor 52 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: to the Hillary Clinton campaign. Bratt, I'll start with you. 53 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: This executive order breaking tonight really restricting could restrict how 54 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: US businesses do business with whilweh with CT. How's it 55 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: going to play out on the trade front. Well, it's 56 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: it's long overdue, and I think, as you correctly stated, 57 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: it is a ractioning up of UM leverage on China. 58 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: But I've written extensively on on the perils of dealing 59 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: with Wahwei and zt because of the fact that their 60 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: Chinese controlled industries that are are basically UM agents of 61 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: the Chinese government. Uh, we don't need their five G. 62 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: We can develop our own five G. And if you 63 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: put their put our eggs in their basket, then we're 64 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: subject to their spying, of them using their technology against us. 65 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: So I'm all Forard. You know what I find interesting 66 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: Antoine is most folks, and trust me, I'll level with you. 67 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: I was one of those folks. They hear Huawei, they 68 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: hear z t E, and they don't really know the 69 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: backstory and just how crucial Huawei and z t E 70 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: r to Chinese economy. I mean, these are like the 71 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: crown jewels of China's economy and they're they're penetrating technology 72 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: into everyday Americans phones and whatnot. So for the President 73 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: to do this type of executive order, this is a rare, 74 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: nonpartisan aspect of the type of national security threat that 75 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: many folks have, people like Senator Mark Warner, a Democrat 76 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: from Virginia, who have these concerns. So on the issue 77 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: of cyber Antoine, it would appear that there is nonpartisan 78 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: consensus that something has to be done with China. I 79 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 1: think this is one of the rare occasions in Washington, 80 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: d C. And what you see Democrats and Republicans agree 81 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: on something. It may not be a lot of them, 82 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: that a few of them. Uh, And I think that 83 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: says everything. But uh brat he mentioned ramping up the 84 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: pressure on China. I think that's part of it. But 85 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: I also think is part of Trump's political efforts, right 86 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: to to get a reaction to uh, to get motivation 87 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: from his salty owt and to bring some somewhat calmness 88 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: to these trade talks, because, believe it or not, this 89 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: thing is going to impact all of us in some way, 90 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: shape or form, and I think this is his way 91 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: of trying to get a hit of it. We've got 92 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: Antoine ce right, his first time on the show. He's 93 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: a Democratic strategist, founder and CEO of Blueprint Strategy, a 94 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: former advisor to the Clinton campaign. He's here in studio. 95 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: He's got a South Carolina pin on his lapel. We'll 96 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: talk presidential politics with him coming up. I'm not key 97 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: Battleground State. But earlier today Secretary Minution he testified at 98 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: a Senate subcommittee hearing. I was outside of the hearing room, 99 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: and when he comes out, I wanted to ask him 100 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: specifically about the timetable of the talks with US and China. 101 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: Now we've got the Zte and Huawei news that was 102 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: anticipated to happen today, the headlines crossing the terminal. But 103 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: I asked him about the time period in terms of 104 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: whether or not he has plans to go to China 105 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: ahead of the Japanese June June twenty nine Osaka Japan 106 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: G twenty summit where President she and President Trump are 107 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: going to meet, and he says he doesn't have a date. 108 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: Here's the Treasury Secretary after I caught up with him, 109 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: I have no plans yet to go to China. We 110 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: don't know if they've said. I would expect that Ambassador 111 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: Lighthiser and I, who have been doing this together, we 112 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: go together at the appropriate time. Meanwhile, the U s 113 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: Trade Representative Bob Lightheiser at the Traders as President Trump 114 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: calls him Brad uh that he was negotiating with the 115 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: Canadians on US m c A and I gotta be honest, Brad. Look, 116 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: you're a Republican. I can't find I'm hard pressed to 117 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: find a Republican who like these tariffs. Secretary Minution commented 118 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: on the issue of tariffs and whether or not they 119 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: were going to lift them, particularly on the steal an 120 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: aluminum front. Take a listen to what he said. And 121 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: I didn't say we were lifting tariffs. What I said 122 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: was we were trying to resolve the teriff issues as 123 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: part of an agreement with U. S m c A 124 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: H And that's something that we are we are focused on. 125 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: Can Secretary of Unition ken President Trump, Brad, can they 126 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: get a deal on U S M c A and 127 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: get it ratified? If they're stealing a luminium tariffs are 128 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: still in place, It's really up to the Democrats in 129 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: the House. Um, we can, we can. We can pass 130 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: these agreements through the Senate. But unless we get action 131 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: through the House, these deals are going nowhere. The fact 132 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: that a president can make a deal and not close 133 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: a deal because of the partisan politics of the Democrat 134 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: is where we stand today. So yes, this could all 135 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: be ended by a ratification by both Democrats in the 136 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: House and the Senate. Right, you're making an assumption. Uh, 137 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: Democrats don't want to play ball on things that really 138 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: matter to everyday people. And when you talk about playing politics, 139 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: who played more politics than the Senate controlled by Republicans 140 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: and the President when it comes to every major issue 141 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: that I think the American people want, immigration, whatever it 142 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: is Republicans have played. Coming up, we're gonna talk much 143 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: more trade policy. We're also going to switch gears talk 144 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: about iron and the race. You don't want to miss it. 145 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: We've got some great interviews that are coming up, including 146 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: with Congressman Seth Malton. He's a Democratic presidential candidate. You 147 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: can download the sound on podcast on Apple iTunes as 148 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: well as on the Bloomberg Business app. Check us out 149 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: on radio dot Com, I Heart Radio, and Spotify. I'm 150 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: Kevin CURRELLI Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. 151 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg. This is Sound On with Givin's 152 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: really on Bloomberg and HD to Baltimore. Breaking news tonight, 153 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: President Trump signing an order that could limit Chinese telecom 154 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: sales in the United States, ratcheting up trade attentions between 155 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: the US and China and citing national security concerns. President Trump, 156 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: according to my colleague Margaret Talib, signing an executive order 157 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: that could restrict Chinese telecommunication firms Huawei Technologies and Zte 158 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: Corporation from selling their equipment in the United States. This 159 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: obviously has clear impacts for the new five G technology networks. 160 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent from Bloomberg Television and 161 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio, and earlier today I interviewed Senator Marsha Blackburn, 162 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: She's a Republican from Tennessee, about this looming five G 163 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: five tacklesm to what you told me. What came out 164 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: of it was that there is bipartisan concern about how 165 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: we advanced with five G, what the Chinese are doing, 166 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: uh Huawei, and their participation in this. So what you 167 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: heard was that people want to really focus on this. 168 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: Another thing, Kevin, that was very important in the hearing 169 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: was agreement, again by partisan, that we need a national strategy, 170 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: but we do not need or want to federalize the 171 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: five G network. President Trump. According to my colleague Margaret's 172 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: Hello on Bloomberg, she's reporting the President Trump plans in 173 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: the coming days to sign an executive order that would 174 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: prohibit American firms from using gear made by foreign telecom 175 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: telecommunication companies that pose a security threat. Good move, good move. 176 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: It is the right move. And right now as we're 177 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: looking at what we need to do to recoup spectrum, 178 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: repackaged spectrum, especially this mid band spectrum that is going 179 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: to be so important to expansion of a durable, sustainable 180 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: five gen network. Uh, this is the right thing to 181 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: go ahead and say do not use wahwey equipment to 182 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: our allies. Do not use Wahwey equipment because they are 183 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: going to use that to spy on you. And in 184 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: the long run, this is going to be the most 185 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: expensive equipment you would ever buy. I was struck by 186 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: how this is such a non partisan issue on the 187 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: Senate Traditional Committee. I'm also struck by the backdrops all 188 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: of this US SHIA trade talks. And this is the 189 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: one area that I think even Sentimentarity Leader Chuck Schumer 190 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: would agree with on with President Trump. But when you 191 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: talk about terroriffs, when you talk about agricultural I know 192 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: these issues are crucial to your state. What would you 193 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 1: like to see happen? Not moving away from the cyber 194 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: issue for a second, but in the broader conversation of 195 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: US China trade talks. In the broader conversation, we would 196 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: hope that the Chinese realize that they are a very 197 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 1: creative people and very resourceful, and they can compete without 198 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: stealing our technology, our intellectual property. They can compete without 199 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: embedding spyware and malware into their hardware. And what they 200 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: need to do is compete and abide by the rules 201 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,599 Speaker 1: that every other market economy uses in abides by. I 202 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 1: think that would be great. And on tariffs, terrorists have 203 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: an adverse effect. I really look at tariffs is Texas 204 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: and when it comes We've been working this week on 205 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: issues with wire products and with charcoal grills and some 206 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: of the soybean issues, chemicals that are exported from Eastman chemical, 207 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,599 Speaker 1: poly silicon from vodka. We are dealing with all of 208 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: these issues this week, and the tariffs are not helpful. 209 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: That was Senator Marsha Blackburn, or Republican from Tennessee, speaking 210 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: earlier on Bloomberg Television with me. I'm Kevin Severi, chief 211 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: Washington correspondent from Blomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. We were 212 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: talking about tariffs. Blab Blakeman as a Republican strategist and 213 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: former deputy assistant to President George W. Bush. And Antoine 214 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: Cwright is a Democratic strategist, founder and CEO of Blueprint Strategy. 215 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: Advised the Hillary Clinton campaign. So, Brad, it's grilling season. 216 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: We just heard from Senator Blackburner. I mean, listen, I'm 217 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 1: actually in the market for a new drill. But I 218 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: was like struck by this. I mean, the impacts of 219 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: these tariffs are being felt now on everyday items. Is 220 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: that going to put pressure on this White House, especially 221 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: with the August recess coming up? Well, of course, and 222 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: I think now is the time for Republicans to to 223 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: stand up with Democrats and help those people who are affected. 224 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: China is certainly going to do it in their markets, 225 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: and we should be doing in our markets. We should 226 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: be helping the farmers, manufacturers. We should make sure that 227 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: our people get over this hump until such time as 228 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: we're able to make an agreement. You know, and this, 229 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 1: this short term pain idea is even more painful for 230 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: people who are already in pain. Right. If you've ever 231 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: been to a doctor and you felt pain and somebody 232 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: says you're gonna feel more, Uh, it hurts, right, and 233 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: then when you think about time for some patriotism, and 234 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: it's I know, it's it's time for the president to 235 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 1: stop creating unnecessary fights for checking up a little. This 236 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: is a fight that we need to take. Bottom A 237 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: better way to fight is from a position of strength. 238 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: The bottom line is Republicans who should be thinking about 239 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: life afi Donald Trump with us in twenty four should 240 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: get back to doing the basic things right, and that 241 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: we should be content to being screwed. We should not 242 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: let a gentleman, gentleman, gentlemen here we are talking about grills, 243 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: and it's getting heated. It's getting heated, all right. But 244 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: on the issue of trade policy, what I want to 245 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: know is in this crowded democratic field, I mean, there 246 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: are areas, as we've identified, especially on national security, on 247 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: cyber on intellectual property, on allowing to open up markets 248 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: into China, in particular to allow US businesses to penetrate 249 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: those emerging markets. But on the issue of trade as 250 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: a whole, there are there is that populous rhetoric that 251 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: exists when I hear Senator Bernie Sanders, I'm take back 252 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: to the cycle where Senator Sanders and Canada Donald Trump 253 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: are going after the same votes in upstate New Hampshire. 254 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: So what is the Democratic doctrine on trade policy. I 255 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: don't think it's yet to be determined. And let me 256 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: tell you why it's sir, believe it or not. I 257 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: know it's late for us in the bubble, but it's 258 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: still early for everyday people. And I don't think you've 259 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: seen people really flesh out their thoughts or ideas about 260 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: trade policies from a holistic example. And I don't think 261 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: you will, because while most people are trying to introduce 262 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: themselves to voters, and others are really focused on quality 263 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: life issues and things that voters care about. And I'm 264 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: not sure trade is on the top of your minds. 265 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: You know what is on my mind the charcoal grills. 266 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: I want to know how these tariffs. First, we hear 267 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: from Senator King earlier in the week, and he's saying 268 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: lobster lobster prices are going up because that Derriff's now 269 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: I've got to worry about my grill, all right. I'm 270 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent, fro Bloomberg TV and Radio. 271 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: Antoine Sea Rights gonna stay our Democratic strategists as well 272 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: as Brad Blakeman are Republican strategist and coming up, we're 273 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: gonna hear from Senator John Kennedy. He's a Republican US 274 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: some issues. He was on Air Force one last night 275 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: with President Trump. I spoke with him after that Monuan hearing. 276 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: So stick around download the sound on podcast on Apple iTunes, 277 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: at I Heart Radio, Spotify. You can also check us 278 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: out on Bloomberg dot com, as well as on the 279 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. I'm Kevin Serelli. You're listening to Bloomberg. 280 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: You're listening to Sound On with Kevin's really on Bloomberg 281 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: one and one oh five point seven f M h 282 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: D two, Baltimore. Just see this. President Trump was campaigning 283 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: in Louisiana the other night and he made like this 284 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: promise that he would build a bridge in Louisiana if 285 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: if if he's reelected. Can't make it up. Can't make 286 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: it up as they talk about infrastructure. Joining him on 287 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: Air Force One was the Louisiana Senator, another outspoken politician, 288 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: Senator John Kennedy. He's a republic looking from Louisiana. He 289 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: chaired the subcommittee hearing earlier today with Treasury Secretary Stephen 290 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: Manusian and I caught up with them for Bloomberg Television 291 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: earlier today, right after the hearing, actually to get his talk, 292 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: to get his take on the US China trade talks. Here, 293 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: Senator Kennedy, the Secretary was as candidate as he could be. 294 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: He's in the Melbourne negotiations. Look, no, nobody wants the 295 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: trade war. The only want to winter trade wars. Don't 296 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: fight the dead gum thing, Okay, And the President knows that, 297 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: and certainly Secretary Manutition knows that. And yes, the dispute 298 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: we have with our friends and China is about trade, 299 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: but it's it's about something bigger and more important. It's 300 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: about the rules for a global economy. Now, China is 301 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: the second largest economy in the world. We're first, uh 302 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: that China is not a developing country anymore. There have 303 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: to have to be rules in a global economy. And 304 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: and let me just make this spart because it's important. 305 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: We invited China to join the w t O on 306 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: December month, two thousand and one. China started cheating December twelve, 307 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: and they've done it, and then the it's got to stop. 308 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: When you yesterday you traveled with the President on Air 309 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: Force one. He's spoke in Louisiana. I know trade as 310 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: crucial to your state as it is to many states. 311 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: Would you be supportive if the President uh put pressure 312 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: on the w w t O or even withdrew from 313 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: the w t O as these trade talks continuing. Is 314 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: that something that you think the President is considering. I 315 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: did talk to the President yesterday about this, and without 316 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: violating any confidences, he is resolute. He's firm. Uh. He 317 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: believes passionately that that this is important, not just to 318 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: the American economy, to the global economy. Uh, these are 319 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: my words, not he is, but he doesn't see China 320 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: is an enemy. He sees some China as a friend. 321 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: A competitor, yes, but you know what, competition makes all 322 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: of us better. But China's guy to play by the 323 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: rules now, and they're not playing by the rules. And 324 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: the President is going to keep doing whatever he's got 325 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: to do, whatever he's got to do to make sure 326 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: that everybody plays by the rules. Just the final question 327 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: on this point, I don't want you to violate the 328 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: conversation of trust that you had with someone, especially the President. 329 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: But in terms of whether or not there would be 330 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: support in the Republican Party should the President decide to 331 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: withdraw from w t O. I'm hearing that that you 332 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: would be supportive of the president became But I'm not 333 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: going to speculate on that because that hasn't even been 334 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: talked about to my knowledge, and I certainly didn't talk 335 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: about that with the President. But if your question is 336 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: is the president serious? Is four heart attacks on a stroke? 337 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: The answers yes on the scale one to ten, ten 338 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: being uh the firmst he's a he's a the ten. 339 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: He's serious now And and this fight has been coming 340 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: for a long time, and we don't want to have 341 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: a fight. We want to get this worked out. But 342 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: this has got to be worked out. And our friends 343 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: in Anna I have got to stop me Nick good 344 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: lighting currency and subsidizing companies. They have to our companies 345 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: have to compete with and they've got to stop stealing 346 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: our intellectual property. And this spoichman coming for a long time. 347 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: That was Senator John Kennedy, a Republican from Louisiana. He 348 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: chaired the subcommittee hearing and the Senate today with Treasury 349 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: Secretary Stephen manution Uh. Speaking of that hearing, I was 350 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: at that hearing, uh, and Democrats pressed Secretary Manution for 351 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: information about if they're gonna release President Trump's tax returns. 352 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: He said, it's going to be up to the courts. 353 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: Joining me in studio brab Blakeman, Republican strategist and former 354 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: deputy assistant to President George W. Bush. Antoine C. Wright 355 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: as a Democratic strategist, founder and CEO of Blueprint Strategy, 356 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: former advisor to the Hillary Clinton campaign. Antoine, I watched 357 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: you as you listen to that interview from the senator 358 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: from the Great state of Louisiana. Your response, Uh, he 359 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: makes me laugh. Uh. You know, anytime a member of 360 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: Congress has one on one time with the president, I 361 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 1: think they use it as an opportunity to probably educate 362 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,239 Speaker 1: him a little about the process because he didn't come 363 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: from this world, and that's I know, that's the past 364 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: that Republicans want to give him. Educate him about the process, 365 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: but also educate him about the impact it will have 366 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: on them. The Senate map looks a lot sexier for Democrats, uh, 367 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: in twenty than it did an eighteen and so when 368 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: the president takes action and it has impact on the 369 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: politics and guess what it can hurt. UH, they're standing 370 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: in the majority. I think the president gets and you 371 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: know as I do, that it's every man and woman 372 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: for themselves. The president has to do what's in the 373 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: right interests of the party. But also, UH paramount is 374 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: the country, and I think we lose that sometimes in 375 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: the political debate that it's it's it's the country that 376 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: we should be putting above politics. Alright, So we're talking 377 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: about the U. S. China trade talks coming up. We're 378 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: gonna check in with the Montana governor Steve Bullock. He's 379 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: just announced that he's running for president. We're also going 380 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: to talk about, uh, the Iran situation and the escalating 381 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: tensions between the US and Iran. I do want to 382 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: note that the President did sign that executive order within 383 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: the last hour and a half or so that would 384 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: restrict UH the U S. Companies from being able to 385 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: do businesses with Chinese telecommunication firm Shuawei and zte I. 386 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: Just got a statement from a source at the f 387 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: c C Chairman Pia G. Pie statement of the f 388 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: c C. He says, quote, protecting America's communication networks is 389 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: vital to our national, economic, and personal security. I applaud 390 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: the President for issuing this EO to safeguard the communications 391 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: supply chain given the threats presented by certain foreign companies, 392 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: equipment and services. This is a significant step towards securing 393 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: America's networks. Obviously, he's talking about five G. I'm Kevin Sireli, 394 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: chief Washington correspondent from Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. You're 395 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: listening to Bloomberg. This is Sound On with Kevin cur 396 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: really on Bloomberg one and one oh five point seven 397 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: of m h D two. Boltemore, I'm Kevin Sereli, chief 398 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: Washington correspondent from Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. Joining us 399 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: on the phone line. Montana Governor Steve Bullock. He announced 400 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: earlier this week that he is throwing his name in 401 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: the crowded Democratic presidential primary field. But he's standing out 402 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: and here's why he's the twenty three candidate to enter 403 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: the race. But he's got a different message, Governor. Thanks 404 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: for calling in. We appreciate the time with Bloomberg. How 405 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: are you different than the other twenty two candidates? Kevin, 406 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: It's great to be with you, for sure. And no, 407 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: I just got in the Rainfield Day. But I'm different 408 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: from what I can bring to this and it all do. 409 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: I think I'm the only one of the field that 410 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: actually done re elected, are elected in the home state, 411 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: certainly where Trump was on the ballot, he won in 412 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: twenty or by twenty points intobout sixteen. I won by 413 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: four more than just that, though. I've also been able 414 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: to bridge divides in state of Montana to get things done. 415 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: I let's fait, she's almost six Republican. Yet We've actually 416 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: been able to do things like medicate expansion, preasing college tuition, 417 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: creating a really good business climate. And really, when you 418 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: look at it, I think that what we need to 419 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: do is both beat Donald Trump at also big some 420 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: of these divides economy and the political system are democracy 421 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: is really working for folks because a lot of folks 422 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,959 Speaker 1: don't see that this country actually does work for them 423 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: and look to Washington, see and it stopped working too 424 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: well either. You know, Governor, you were through the former 425 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: chairman of the National Governor's Association, uh and you mentioned 426 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: that you that you ran in a state that President 427 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: Trump carried and look, you know this, I'm here inside 428 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: of the belt Way. I don't come from Washington, But 429 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: I'm here inside of the belt Way, and all of 430 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: the chatter from the talking heads is that the progressive 431 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: base is screaming so loud, they are moving the party 432 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: so far to the left that someone like you, sir, 433 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: might not be able to break through. Why are they wrong? Well, 434 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: I think and yeah, still the association where we've really 435 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: focused on good jobs for all Americans, looking for the 436 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: urban world, disconnect training, and the career workers. But I 437 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: think they're wrong because when you want, you know, that's 438 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: really the core of the work. Progressive is making progress. 439 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,719 Speaker 1: When it comes to healthcare, we've not only increased coverage 440 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: to mediquet expansion, we've lowered costs. When it comes to 441 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: taking on sort of the corrupting influences of our system, 442 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: it's probably know what it's done more post citizens he died, 443 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: But than I have to make sure that elections are 444 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: actually decided by folks like you and I um or 445 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: people out there are not the money to interest. So 446 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: so I think that uh, ultimately we're gonna be looking 447 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: for somebody that can not only win, but also can 448 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: move get DC working again, because it fundamentally doesn't. What's 449 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: your number one issue? What's gonna be your thing is 450 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: that you're going to be known for well, I think 451 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: as a governor, that's one of the things that every 452 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: issue out there, Kevin. But you know, I mean, one 453 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: thing that I would tackle right away, and we've done 454 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: a lot is um sort of the corruption influences outside money, 455 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: because once we deal with campaign finance from then we're 456 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: actually going to be able to build a fair tax system, 457 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: will be able to actually address climate, will actually be 458 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: able to move things forward. So I think that there 459 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: are things that you can do, certainly things I've been 460 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: able to do in Montana UM and that's everything from 461 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: ninety days out. If you want to spend their elections, 462 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: you have to disclose where that money is coming from. 463 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: A few other states have done that. Even with that 464 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: legislature that just got done a couple of weeks ago 465 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: we passed. I think we're the third state to do 466 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: a foreign money band for nationals and others can't spend 467 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: in our elections. So I think folks will should certainly 468 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: know me for that, but they will also know me 469 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: for the fact that really trying to make sure that 470 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: everybody has a fair shot in this economy. When you 471 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: look at Americans don't have four hundred bucks in your 472 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: pocket in case of family emergency, or if you look 473 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: at in real chairms in the last forty years. Uh So, 474 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: the average American hasn't gotten the wage. That's something that 475 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: I've always focused on been governor, and while last chair 476 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: National Governed Association focus on go ahead, Yeah, thank you. 477 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Know what I what I find interesting 478 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: is is most folks don't know this, but when I 479 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,959 Speaker 1: think of Citizens United, you were the guy. I mean, 480 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: you were the Attorney General at the time, but you 481 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: were the guy who really was the voice of that 482 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: I mean. And it's interesting to see the dynamics of 483 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: play here because you're your cast is a centrist Democrat, 484 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: but you were the guy at Citizens United. Is that 485 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: going to be a pitch that you were going to 486 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: Erry with you? Uh and and and part of your 487 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: messaging in South Carolina, in Iowa, New Hampshire that that 488 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: you're hoping maybe Will we'll push back against some of 489 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: the attacks that you know you're gonna get it will Kevin. 490 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm not too concernous about the attacks, 491 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get because I've really put my record 492 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: accomplishment against anyone. But like if you it's not. Two 493 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: of the outside spending was from groups that didn't disclose 494 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: where that money's coming from. This last mid terms over half. 495 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: I mean, if elected officials are essentially an in defect NASCAR, 496 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: you know, bott and paid for buyout kinds of folks, 497 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: we ought to know who's doing to find So I 498 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: think that that is something that not only UM you know, 499 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: will I be talking about, but I have a career 500 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: of doing. But there's also a lot more that we 501 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: can be doing to make sure that you know, when 502 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: you look at UM or the person that works at 503 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: a restaurant or secretary of an office paid more in 504 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: Amazon and taxes last year from corpording im side, you know, 505 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: at some point and once you start addressing what the 506 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: influences on DC that make it work or doesn't work, 507 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: I think then we can start addressing a lot of 508 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: the other things we need to be all right, what 509 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: would you do on trade? Well, I mean the big 510 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: story for US trade policy US and China. What would 511 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: you do? How would you negotiate with the Chinese? Well, 512 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: it's a big story in Montana and of course places 513 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: all over the state. Country, right, I mean getting hit 514 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: on both ends and losing markets. Don't kid yourself. A 515 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 1: payment from the Department of Agriculture isn't gonna make up 516 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: for the market loss when Brazil takes over and they're 517 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: getting hit on the influence, I mean, steal aluminum. Things 518 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: are that much more expensive, and then all of us 519 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: will get hit if these TIFFs go in um Ultimately 520 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: it hits every family directly, A families in America for 521 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: two thousand bucks a year. So I think you've gotta 522 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: be tough on China. But you don't just have a 523 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: blunt instrument of a terror and think that that's going 524 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: to solve it. And you actually work with your partners, 525 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: not just take it along. I mean, this idea of 526 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: America first is kind of becoming America along and that's 527 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: not the way that it actually can make movements. And 528 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm trying to hit it for a long game, and 529 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: we need to be tough on him. But you can't 530 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: just think that this is gonna solve it. Governor Steve Bullock, 531 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: he's a Democratic presidential candidate, just threw his name into 532 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: the into the race. He's the governor of Montana. We're 533 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: talking with him. We're thrilled that he was able to 534 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: call him. We appreciate the time. Gov. You're about to 535 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: hit the trail. You're gonna travel the country. What is 536 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: the what is the best food on the campaign or 537 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: what are you most looking for to I covered the 538 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: last campaign, I ate my way through it. What are 539 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: you most looking forward to getting when you're in New 540 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: Hampshire or South Carolina? Well, I always good barbecue and 541 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: I wa get you can't tell complaining about pork for sure, 542 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: And um, you know, I think I'm good. I had 543 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: a good and I think you can't argue with either. Yes, no, 544 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: you really can't. Governor Steve Bullock, everybody, we appreciate the time. Governor, 545 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: thanks for checking in, and I'm sure i'll talk with 546 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: you later as the race heats up. Maybe I'll see 547 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: out there on the trail at the Ioa State Fair 548 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: and we'll have a fried Twinkie ken. Thanks for having 549 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: me out today, of course. Anytime. That's Montana Governor Steve 550 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: Bullock checking in. He just announced that he's running for president. 551 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: Switching gears. I want to talk international policy because with 552 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: me in studio we have Brad Blakeman. He's a Republican 553 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: strategist and Antoine Seawright, a Democratic strategist, and the situation 554 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: Gentleman is escalating in regards to the US and Iran. 555 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: The US ordered its non emergency government staff to leave 556 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: Iraq amid increasing Middle East tensions that American officials are 557 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: blaming on Iran. This according to the Bloomberg Terminal, as 558 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: fears rise that the region maybe heading toward another conflict. 559 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: Earlier today, I spoke with Congressman Seth Malton. He is 560 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: a Democrat from Massachusetts also running for president. He served 561 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: four tours in Iraq. Thank you listen to what he said. 562 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: We need to hold or increase our sanctions on their 563 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: ballistic missile program, which has been very effective. We need 564 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: to make sure that our allies have protections like Patriot 565 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: missile batteries from their ballistic missiles, which we have done 566 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: both under the Obama administration and under the Trump administration. 567 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: But what we should not be doing is sending a 568 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty thousand troops to the Middle East, the 569 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: same number that we sent to start the Iraq War. 570 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: Based on the administration's spin of car intelligence. That was 571 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: Congressman Seth Malton, Democrat from Massachusetts. Spread you listen to that. 572 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: This is the the Iraq war vote is going to 573 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: be an issue, Uh, even in the Democratic primary. Right. 574 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: I think this president is doing the right thing. You know, 575 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: government's first and foremost responsibilities to prevent harm, not merely 576 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: respond to it. And the Presidence intelligence tells him that 577 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: we needed to protect our personnel. Iran's work is lashing 578 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: out White because sanctions are working. And uh, Antoine, I 579 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: gotta be honest here. I mean to hear Congressman Malton 580 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: who served for tours in Iraq. I mean he's going 581 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: to be debating against people potentially who voted to send 582 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: him there. I'll just tell you this is a tweet 583 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: for everything. And in two thousand eleven, Donald Trump tweeted 584 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: that Barack o'boment is going to start a war with 585 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: that ran to get get elected. Uh so we'll see 586 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: maybe this is the president of posturing uh as we 587 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: get closer to re election. That was a great show, everybody. 588 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: We covered a lot of ground, Antoine, see right, first 589 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: time on the program. How was it, Jeff fun? I 590 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: had a lot of fun. I hope you have me back. 591 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: Of course, anytime he's a Democratic strategist, founder and CEO 592 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: of Blueprint Strategies, and a former advisor to Hillary Quincy campaign. 593 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: We didn't even get to talk about South Carolina barbecue. Brad. 594 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: That's that's Antoine Sneck of the Woods. I mean, it's 595 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: all about that. Brad Blakman, Republican strategist, former deputy assistant 596 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: to President George W. Bush fulcome back anytime. And that's 597 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: it for me. I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent for 598 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. No show for us tomorrow. 599 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: We're in pg A tour mode for the rest of 600 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 1: the week. Thanks for listening.