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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 4: Here we are, baby, getting ready for another big Saturday

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Speaker 3: Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 4: And uh, here's the deal, because coming up would be

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Speaker 4: a lot of fun. We're gonna get into a lot

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Speaker 4: of NTAA basketball stuff today because it's starting to heat up.

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Speaker 4: The conference tournaments one of my favorite times. They're starting

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Speaker 4: to heat up a little bit. So we're gonna get

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Speaker 4: a little bit into that today.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: President Trump yesterday had its meeting about and this great

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Speaker 4: roundtable they had about trying to fix college sports. And

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Speaker 4: it was interesting because one of the offshoots was to

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Speaker 4: And I gotta tell you, I don't know how that's possible.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how you can you could possibly do that,

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Speaker 4: like once you know, once you're once this whole thing's out,

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Speaker 4: I don't know how you do it.

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Speaker 3: It's really it was really interesting, right.

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Speaker 4: President Trump said Friday he will write an executive order

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Speaker 4: within a week that will solve all the problems brought forth.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't know how that works. We have

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Speaker 4: our man, Good morning, It's Danny d the a d.

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Speaker 4: Daniel de Bernie denis athletic director of Penn Charter High.

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Speaker 3: School in Philadelphia. Good morning, Danny d.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, sir.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how you can fix this. I don't

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Speaker 4: know how he's going to write an executive order to

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Speaker 4: fix this in a week.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's there's some lofty expectations over there.

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Speaker 5: But you know, at least there's some progress, you know,

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Speaker 5: I think the least they're you know, we're going in

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Speaker 5: the right direction. I think conversations being had very important.

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Speaker 5: So I'm enjoying that. I don't think you fix it.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's a very confident man. I think, you know,

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Speaker 5: his confidence is coming through. But I'm hoping that, you know,

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Speaker 5: we continue to have some conversation, we continue to work

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Speaker 5: at it, because it's not going to be solved overnight,

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Speaker 5: right and we got to just stay at it, and

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Speaker 5: we got to you know, keep meeting, and I hope they,

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Speaker 5: you know, can come together and figure out a way

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Speaker 5: to you know, make this better for everybody, because right

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Speaker 5: now the system is fractured. It's not it's it's broken,

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Speaker 5: you know, and we got to make sure that we

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Speaker 5: can figure it out.

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Speaker 4: So this is what he said, so you know you quote,

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Speaker 4: I will have an executive order within one week, and

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Speaker 4: it will be very all encompassing, and we're going to

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Speaker 4: put it forward. We're going to get sued. We're going

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Speaker 4: to see how it plays. Okay, but I'll have an

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Speaker 4: executive order which will solve every problem in this room,

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Speaker 4: every conceivable problem, within one week, and we'll put it forward.

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Speaker 4: We'll get sued. That's the only thing I know for sure.

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Speaker 4: All Right, I don't know how that works. Nick Saban

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Speaker 4: said his goal was to prepare the players for success

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Speaker 4: personal development academic support. And he said, quote, I think

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Speaker 4: we need to come up with this system, but we

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Speaker 4: obviously have to do with the president's leadership and also

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Speaker 4: Congress probably whether it's antitrust legislation or whatever it is,

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Speaker 4: to allow student athletes in all sports, including women's and

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Speaker 4: Olympic sports, to enhance their quality of life while going

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Speaker 4: to college, but still provide opportunity to advance.

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Speaker 3: Themselves beyond their athletic career.

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Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I know he brought up education and

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Speaker 4: nobody talks about education, and I get it. I don't

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Speaker 4: know how you go back overnight to the what it was,

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Speaker 4: and that's what it feels like that they that they

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Speaker 4: were trying to do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, agreed, And we can't act like it just didn't happen, right,

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Speaker 5: We can't act like well like.

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Speaker 3: No, I said, nobody's getting paid.

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Speaker 5: Yeah we can we scholar ship right, Yeah, that's dead, right,

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Speaker 5: We're not. We're not going back to that. But the

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Speaker 5: question is, like, we got to find a middle ground

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Speaker 5: I think, and hopefully through conversation and people you know,

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Speaker 5: from all different you know, avenues will be really important

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Speaker 5: hopefully they don't act too swiftly, right cause I think

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Speaker 5: if you just try, you know, fixing it overnight, like

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Speaker 4: It's a big time trouble. Like you're not gonna fix

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Speaker 4: this overnight. You need a excuse me, you need a

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Speaker 4: a real committee, a governing body, and they need to

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Speaker 4: be empowered for sure.

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Speaker 2: I completely agree.

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Speaker 4: So that means like you got to stop the lawsuits, right,

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Speaker 4: because the n c double A lost all its power

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Speaker 4: because of the lawsuits. So there has to be some

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Speaker 4: sort of agreement, right, Like at some point, if you

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Speaker 4: play college athletics, you're either going to have to be

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Speaker 4: part of a union or like there's got to be something.

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Speaker 3: That will allow.

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Speaker 4: An agreement between student athletes and the universities in the

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Speaker 4: system alone.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and agree we needed and we need to figure

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Speaker 5: out the right balance. And that's I think that's what

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Speaker 5: comes back to it. Again, It's not going to happen overnight.

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Speaker 5: We got to continue to work at it. But I did, like,

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Speaker 5: you know, the diverse room that they had, right, there's

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Speaker 5: a lot of different people that have different backgrounds that

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Speaker 5: were you know, tied into this roundtable. So I'm interested

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Speaker 5: to see what they might have come up with like

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Speaker 5: this early round the stages, and you know, hopefully we

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Speaker 5: can you know, grow it and have them stay involved.

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Speaker 2: Right, It's not just all right, meet once.

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Speaker 5: I hope it's it's an open dialogue that continues to

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Speaker 5: the best balance for it too.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know though who I mean.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like I'm skeptical the whole thing. Like, I

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Speaker 4: think the one of the issues is they're lumping everything together.

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Speaker 4: This is why I'm dubious they're lumping the whole thing together.

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Speaker 3: They need to they need to add.

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Speaker 4: Split everything up by sports and have the main sports,

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Speaker 4: the money drivers, stand alone. Then you have everything else

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Speaker 4: and you could group those sports together. But football can't

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Speaker 4: coexist with basketball, with baseball and field hockey.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we talked about that last week, like breaking at

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Speaker 5: I understand we want uniformity and we want to make

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Speaker 5: every sport to flourish, flourish, So whether that be volleyball, softball,

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Speaker 5: baseball to you know, squash and cricket. Right, we want

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Speaker 5: And I know it's a little bit more work in it,

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Speaker 4: But I think overall, question, let me ask you question,

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Speaker 4: what you have your main drivers, and then you have

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Speaker 4: everything else. Can't you group cricket and yeah, squash and

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Speaker 3: Can't you lump those sports together? Right?

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Speaker 4: And then you got the TV sports because there is

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Speaker 4: a dramatic difference between men's and women's basketball and squash.

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Speaker 5: Yes, So I think, yeah, I don't think it's like

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Speaker 2: It might be like four buckets.

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Speaker 5: And I think there's a lot of sports that are

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Speaker 2: But also I don't think it's just one and two.

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Speaker 5: I think there's probably a three or four tier scheduling

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Speaker 4: We'll go through it, right. Let's go through it like

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Speaker 4: to me, you should be. You got football and we

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Speaker 4: went through it last week. It's the tier system, right.

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Speaker 4: You know the leagues are A through e all right,

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Speaker 4: that wants a college football program gets slotted in a tier, right,

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Speaker 4: And it's you know the SEC, Big ten, ACC, Big twelve,

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Speaker 4: and you know then everything follows from there. Same thing

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Speaker 4: with basketball. You have you know, four to five levels

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Speaker 4: the tournament. I mean, you know that could be bigger.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's only three three leagues in basketball, or two

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Speaker 4: But that's men's and women's together, right, Okay, so you

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Speaker 4: put your group men's and women's together, then you have

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Speaker 4: baseball because baseball is different, right, it's got to be

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Speaker 3: And baseball.

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Speaker 4: You have to decide whether you want to be a

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Speaker 4: a pretty good program and they went to a club team.

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Speaker 3: Right, So either you've got to be a club team

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Speaker 5: And softball can go with baseball because obviously seasons aligned, right,

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Speaker 2: Like what they need for success.

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Speaker 5: They align right, similar sports, so you can put them

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Speaker 5: like you did with men's and women basketball baseball.

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Speaker 4: You're not you're not paying them the same though. I

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Speaker 4: mean you can't because one generates more revenue than the other.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean in that happens right now, right, like right,

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Speaker 3: It's basketball is huge.

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Speaker 4: Uh it's bigger than softball, but it's just it's a

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Speaker 3: But you're right, like you you have that tier, so

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Speaker 3: you could group those together.

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Speaker 2: You put them together.

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Speaker 5: And again, I think what's important, Like we talked about

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Speaker 5: like certain sports, it's easier to travel because it's once

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Speaker 5: a week, but like there're sports that happened like baseball

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Speaker 5: and softball, you could play three four games in a week, right,

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Speaker 5: So we can't have that travel set up. We have

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Speaker 5: to be more strategic with it. Like we can't have

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Speaker 5: west on a Tuesday, just not sustainable.

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Speaker 2: It's too much money.

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Speaker 4: Uh So after that, so you got you got that

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Speaker 4: whole crew, right, you have all that going on now

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Speaker 4: what Now you have all the other sports golf, right,

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Speaker 4: because college golf is a pretty big deal, right, so

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Speaker 4: you my assumption would that's its own and all those

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Speaker 4: sports volleyball, golf can be in its own conference, though.

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Speaker 2: They could, but it varies.

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Speaker 5: I think it varies because again, travel becomes important. Like

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Speaker 5: And again, we opened up Pandora's box. Right, we didn't

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Speaker 5: I thought I thought there was gonna be a Cowboys overpay.

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Speaker 5: To life the last couple of weeks without the NFL,

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Speaker 4: to think about it, and I agree with you. I think, gohead,

442
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Speaker 4: expand it if you if you add twelve teams, say right,

443
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 4: because you got to go within in criminton four yep.

444
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Speaker 4: And you could then whack up the games and extend

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Speaker 4: Thursday Friday into Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday for the first round.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, that's all you're doing is adding on

447
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Speaker 5: that first week a couple of dates, which I love.

448
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Speaker 5: And this is and we'll get into it, but my

449
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 5: big thing is like these mid majors, right, like this Miami, Ohio,

450
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Speaker 5: if they don't win their conference tournament.

451
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Speaker 2: People are talking about them not getting in.

452
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Speaker 3: I mean that's ridiculous. It's crazy.

453
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Speaker 5: So that you could go, you know, thirty and one

454
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Speaker 5: and losing your conference tournament and they're saying, well, that's

455
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Speaker 5: a bad conference.

456
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Speaker 2: We're only gonna give them one.

457
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Speaker 5: And basketball, it's it's like, not like every sport you

458
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Speaker 5: got a fighters chance.

459
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Speaker 2: Man, it's not.

460
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 5: It's not football, right, it's not. You know, you guys

461
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 5: got to you gotta shot. Especially. You see that every

462
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Speaker 5: year in a tournament, and some of these conferences just

463
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Speaker 5: get overlooked.

464
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Speaker 2: And I think it's unfair.

465
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Speaker 5: And that's why conferences are kind of trying to stack

466
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Speaker 5: their tournament so their best team is rewarded to get there.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, conferences are changing.

468
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Speaker 5: You know, the Sun Belt did this Gauntlet tournament conference tournament.

469
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Speaker 3: You think it's cool, the Gauntlet tournament.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 4: But wherever, what place you come into, where you you

472
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Speaker 4: finish in the standings, is the amount of buys you get, right, Like,

473
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Speaker 4: so it's about to get So what's funny.

474
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Speaker 3: So the top team you came in.

475
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Speaker 2: First one and two, go to the semi finals, boom.

476
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 4: Right automatically, and everything else is all bought. Everybody makes

477
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 4: a tournament too.

478
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're just playing.

479
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 5: You're playing each other like everyone plays, and you have

480
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 5: to work your way up. So it's a it's a

481
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 5: pretty it's like a baby March madness where.

482
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Speaker 2: You gotta work your way, but you're playing.

483
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 5: So if you truly get hot, you deserve it, but

484
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 5: you were gonna pull you through the gauntlet to get there.

485
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Speaker 5: And it also ensures their best teams are set up

486
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Speaker 5: the best way right to to you know, get that bit,

487
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 5: because they know they're only going to get one and

488
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Speaker 5: if a team goes well in the tournament, it's good

489
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Speaker 5: for their conference. They don't want their team to go

490
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Speaker 5: there and just get spanked. So this way it kind

491
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Speaker 5: of ensures their better teams have the best opportunity and

492
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Speaker 5: then that way their conference is represented. And if you

493
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Speaker 5: win a game or two, that's tons of revenue for

494
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Speaker 5: your conference and it gives a different prestige and it

495
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 5: elevates you. So that's why it's important, and I understand

496
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Speaker 5: why teams are going that way now.

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Speaker 4: So you know the idea that Miami l gets you show,

498
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Speaker 4: it's Miami oh one last night to go thirty one

499
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Speaker 4: to oh.

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Speaker 3: They finished.

501
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 4: The RedHawks finish their regular season thirty one and oh

502
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Speaker 4: they won in overtime in.

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Speaker 5: The last four games and have been like overtime or

504
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 5: one by two. Right, they're impressed. They got the you know,

505
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 5: they got the aim. You know, everyone's got their aim

506
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 5: on them. They're getting them their best shot and they're surviving.

507
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 5: But what happens if they lose in their first round

508
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 5: of the conference tournament?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can't go thirty one to oh and

510
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Speaker 3: not make the tour.

511
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Speaker 2: I agree they have to be I mean.

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Speaker 4: Bruce Pearl went out was talking about eleven team from

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Speaker 4: the SEC.

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Speaker 3: Are we serious?

515
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 4: That's like, I know his kid coaches coaches the team,

516
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 4: but yeah, stop stop, that's ridiculous.

517
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: No chance.

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00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 5: And even they historically get one team, that's a good conference,

519
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 5: they're two teams, right, Like, but if you know, you

520
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 5: know at the top of a ten is a VC

521
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 5: used the two seed, and uh, who's the one seed

522
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 5: this year?

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think, I know, Saint Joseph the three seed.

524
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Speaker 5: But yeah, if that team loses, there's a good chance

525
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 5: they don't get in the tournament.

526
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Speaker 3: I mean that's insane.

527
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy.

528
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 4: I mean that that would be That would be ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: All right, So let me ask you about these conference torments.

530
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Speaker 4: You mentioned the Gauntlet, right, so what do you think

531
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Speaker 4: tell me about you know that conference, these conference ornaments

532
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 4: still matter. You sent me, Uh we were texted, and

533
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 4: you sent me a thing about how you still believe

534
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Speaker 4: that these conference tournaments are important.

535
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: I do. I think they're important for a lot of

536
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: different reasons.

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00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 5: Right, we give everyone an opportunity, but we wouldn't they

538
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 5: wouldn't There wouldn't be such an emphasis on it if

539
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 5: we expanded the field like to eight, like you said, Adam,

540
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 5: twelve teams. I think that it alleviates some of the

541
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 5: the stress of these tournaments.

542
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: But they're they're great for the conference. They create buzz.

543
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 5: You know, it kind of gets everyone repped up for

544
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Speaker 5: what's to come next.

545
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: And uh, it gives everyone, you know, a fighter's chance,

546
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Speaker 2: which I love.

547
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 5: You know, we got to keep room for the underdogs,

548
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 5: and you know see how it all shakes out. And

549
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 5: but you know, everything in this field is you know,

550
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 5: they put so much value on these quad one wins.

551
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 5: But you know they these smaller schools also, which people

552
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 5: don't know, they struggle to get games sometimes there's a

553
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 5: good teams in these mid majors the low majors, the

554
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 5: bigger schools aren't going to play them. So you say

555
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 5: you don't have enough quad one wins. It's like they

556
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 5: can't schedule them because they're dangerous, so they don't want to.

557
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 5: The bigger teams don't want to.

558
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Speaker 2: Have a loss to admit to low major.

559
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 5: But also for them, it's like, we can't schedule those games.

560
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 5: We can't get them.

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00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, how we're supposed to, you know, make a name

562
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Speaker 4: and get in and then if we're you, we can't

563
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 4: get it. We can't get a schedule.

564
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And then that's not fair to them either.

565
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 5: So that's why I think expansion is something that could

566
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 5: go over well. And again it would only affect that

567
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Speaker 5: first week.

568
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Speaker 4: It's somebody tell me that the conference tournaments are on that.

569
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Speaker 2: Sorry, no, I disagree with that.

570
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 5: It brings in some like these these conferences need revenue.

571
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Speaker 5: Their conference tournament bring in revenue.

572
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Speaker 2: You know, and it kind of.

573
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Speaker 5: It's good for the game, you know, like what what's

574
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 5: the alternative? Just the top team for the regular season

575
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 5: goes to the tournament or we just stop it there.

576
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what this is not.

577
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Speaker 3: What I agree with you. I I like it.

578
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Speaker 4: I think it's a little baby, like you said, baby tournament,

579
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Speaker 4: and I think it's fun.

580
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 3: I think there's a listen.

581
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Speaker 4: Back in the day, you know, acc Big East tournaments

582
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 4: were unbelievable, man, Yeah, you know, legendary like those, those

583
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 4: were legendary moments, right of these schools like Yukon going

584
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 4: on a run in the Big East and they carrying

585
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 4: it over to the DNC Double A tournament and winning

586
00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 4: the whole thing, like they got hot, they played, you know, played,

587
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 4: you got hot, you had a great week, and you

588
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 4: carried it over into the big dance.

589
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

590
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 5: No, and the and usually teams that get hot then

591
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 5: they're going a little bit of run there, so they

592
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 5: start dancing a Y're in the sweet sixteen before you

593
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 5: know it, right, So I kind of like that momentum

594
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 5: because there is already a gap. So I woll they

595
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 5: just I don't know the alternative. Maybe it's just they

596
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 5: just pushed the you know games until you know.

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Speaker 4: They get you just have a couple more regular yeah,

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Speaker 4: the couple regular season games.

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00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

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00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 4: And people say, well, devalues the regular season, and I

601
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 4: mean I don't think it does. I mean, you know,

602
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 4: it's like the NBA where the regular season.

603
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Speaker 3: You know, goes on all you know, another month and

604
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Speaker 3: a half.

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00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think again.

606
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 5: And it gives college basketball in NCAA tournament. You know,

607
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 5: it's famous for the madness, right.

608
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Speaker 2: This is that That's part of it, right, that's the

609
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: lure of it.

610
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 5: This conference, these conference tournaments mean a lot to these

611
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 5: the schools.

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00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: You know, you know, you're not you're not done, ntil

613
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Speaker 2: you're done.

614
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 5: You could have injuries and your season could be you know,

615
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 5: not what you think. But if you get hot in

616
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 5: the right time, man, it's it's it's a fun time.

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00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 5: So I love that part about college basketball, and I

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Speaker 5: think it's important to keep keep it at its core.

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Speaker 4: All right, coming up, I want to shift back down

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Speaker 4: to youth and high school stuff, uh, particularly baseball. So

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Speaker 4: I had a dad said, he sent me an email

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Speaker 4: talking about reimagining sports. We reimagined college football. He said,

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Speaker 4: I want you to reimagine youth baseball because it's that

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Speaker 4: time of the year where kids are going to start

625
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Speaker 4: going into tournaments and it is ridiculous. I want to

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Speaker 4: lay this out to you. Okay, So we'll dive into

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Speaker 4: youth base ball coming up next project, Nil, Danny d Dad,

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Speaker 4: D So, I get a note from one of our

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Speaker 4: listeners who is who really wanted us to reimagine youth baseball,

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Speaker 4: And I'm down with this because I've lived youth baseball.

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Speaker 4: Six you we started t ball, right, yeah, like we

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Speaker 4: started t ball, and I've coached it up almost every level, right,

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Speaker 4: now we're at thirteen U. All right, So what happens

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Speaker 4: is you go and you have your you play these tournaments,

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Speaker 4: and these are weekend tournaments where you can play, you know,

651
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 4: anywhere from guarantee three games up until like six to

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Speaker 4: sometimes eight games right over course of a weekend, depending

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Speaker 4: on the size. Oh man, Well, and it's and it's

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Speaker 4: completely ridiculous, right because you travel, you know, in my case,

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Speaker 4: I mean, you'll travel up to you know, across the

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Speaker 4: tri state area, right we're in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware,

657
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 4: so we'll travel across that. And then of course there's

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Speaker 4: these bigger tournaments that are national tournaments. We've been in

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Speaker 4: South Carolina, We've been to Pigeon Fork in Tennessee. There's

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Speaker 4: one in Florida. There's a great one in Ripken in

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Speaker 4: Maryland at the Ripkin Facility. So you have perfect game tournaments.

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Speaker 4: And I like all the PG stuff, and I like

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Speaker 4: all the stuff, but here's the thing. The tournament play

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Speaker 4: is antithetical to the sport because you burn kids' arms off.

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Speaker 4: You're burning you can't play multiple multiple games.

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Speaker 2: Not healthy to be out of the weekend.

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Speaker 3: It's not good. It's not healthy.

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Speaker 2: And then were these kids are growing, they're still developing.

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Speaker 2: We we've talked about before, like they don't know what.

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Speaker 5: Their body is yet and they're not a naturally not

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Speaker 5: going to have that the perfect motion are perfect slot.

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Speaker 2: So they're just putting a lot of wear and tear.

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Speaker 2: And if you're making them play up to six.

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Speaker 5: Games and you know, three four day's, it's it's not

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Speaker 5: sustainable because a lot of these teams don't have the

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Speaker 5: arms like you know, use ball. I mean when I play,

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Speaker 5: we like two three pitchers max, right, And that's kind

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Speaker 5: of we kind of rolled with it. But yeah, especially

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Speaker 5: you know if someone you know don't have their stuff

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Speaker 5: that day, you're going to go back to the other kid.

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Speaker 5: And uh, it's not it's not it's not a sustainable operation,

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Speaker 5: especially for these kids if we want them to if

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Speaker 5: the you know, the main thing is for them to

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Speaker 5: grow and develop, and this is part of you know,

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Speaker 5: this is what they're here for. It is this use

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Speaker 5: ball to grow and you know, push your love of

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Speaker 5: the game and help them understand things. That's not sustainable

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Speaker 5: and that's not the way to go about.

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Speaker 4: It, right, So if you play it, I guess it,

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Speaker 4: max would be six games right for unless there's I.

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Speaker 5: Think one weekend, because sometimes if you go to the

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Speaker 5: losers bracket, you gotta play more now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, lose early on and you got it.

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Speaker 4: All depends Some of them don't have losers brackets, some do,

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Speaker 4: and it depends on the size of the tournament. The

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Speaker 4: worst thing, dude, is when and this is what nobody

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Speaker 4: talks about, is that you get to the field by

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Speaker 4: eight o'clock, right, which means that we got an eight

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Speaker 4: am game, so we gotta get to the field by seven.

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Speaker 3: We gotta hit, we gotta warm up right then, and

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Speaker 3: then you win and then you go.

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Speaker 4: You're playing again at noon, right, so you're waiting around

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Speaker 4: a little bit, and you're playing again at three, and

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Speaker 4: you're playing again at six. It's a it's an all

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Speaker 4: day marathon. These kids lose focus and interest.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, agree, Like what.

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Speaker 3: Are we doing? Like these kids they're not even they're

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Speaker 3: now going through the motions. They're not even enjoy themselves.

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Speaker 3: Locked in.

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Speaker 5: It's mentally too like it's just a it's too much

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Speaker 5: for anyone to be to expect it.

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Speaker 4: Can't play three games in the day, sometimes four, but

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Speaker 4: most of the time you're playing two to three games.

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Speaker 3: On a Sunday. You can't play three games on a Sunday.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I agree, I think they have to again.

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Speaker 5: And part of the reason they're doing this is it's

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Speaker 5: you know, it's a cash cow.

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Speaker 3: So there's a money grab.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're paying whatever it is, you know, six

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Speaker 4: thousand for uh A spring league, right, so every family's

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00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 4: got to pay you around six grand. And that includes

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Speaker 4: the entry feed, all the tournaments and everything else.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's expensive.

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Speaker 4: Then you and then they have the goal to charge

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Speaker 4: parents to come in and watch the team, watch their

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Speaker 4: kids play.

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Speaker 5: That that's the new you know that that's more recent,

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Speaker 5: but that's the that's the.

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Speaker 4: Model though, that's a the model to just shake parents

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Speaker 4: money out of.

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Speaker 5: It's crazy, but that's how these they they've found a way.

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Speaker 5: They say, all right, we're going to charge you for

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Speaker 5: the tournament, but then also we're going to charge an

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Speaker 5: entry fee.

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Speaker 2: And that is the I've seen it more and more.

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Speaker 3: It's you know what I mean, like that basketball a lot.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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Speaker 5: There's basketball events where you know you're paying au and

739
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 5: it's fifty dollars to come in for the day.

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Speaker 2: Say, oh, you have a you have to get a

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Speaker 2: day pass.

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Speaker 5: Your kid might be playing one game that day day

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Speaker 5: pass like that.

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Speaker 4: That's ridiculous, that's shameful, shameful. Yact like dact like it's

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Speaker 4: the it's it's the NBA. Like who's watching these kids

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Speaker 4: other than parents and family.

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Speaker 5: Now, it's a racket, and we've talked about it. Some

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Speaker 5: of the first is we need to invest in the

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Speaker 5: local community. And you know, these city leagues and these

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Speaker 5: county leagues need to be stronger where we can you know,

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00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 5: invest in them through you know, the local government or

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Speaker 5: local you know, city council. Because it's a racket out there,

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Speaker 5: and it's totally it's not fair.

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Speaker 4: It's it's not right. It's not right that parents get

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Speaker 4: gowles this way. It's terrible. You want to President Trump

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Speaker 4: needs to get into into use sports.

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Speaker 5: Let's get a round table, me and round table with

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Speaker 5: President Trump and a gang.

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Speaker 4: I love it. I love it, boy goes by face. Everybody,

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Speaker 4: thanks for hanging the fellas. Coming up next,