1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: First Day to follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Attorneys online at Advocateslaw dot com. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: Stephen is on the phone today for our first Day 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Yasmin. 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: So in a few minutes, we'll call her and see 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: if you'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: get him a second date. But first, Stephen, how long 8 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: has it been since your date? 9 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 3: So, uh, it's been like a week. 10 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: Just be that she's working. 11 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 3: No, I know she's working because we work together. 12 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: Oh that makes it awkward. 13 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: Okay, so you went out on a date with the coworker, 14 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: but now she's ghosting you. 15 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you still see her at work, right, exactly awkward. 16 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's figure out how we got here. So how 17 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 4: did you guys end up going on a date. 18 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 3: So I just kind of liked her. I always at work, 19 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 3: like I just you know, we were we were always 20 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: kind of vibing. It seemed like when we were at work, 21 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: and I was just thinking, like why not mix Maybe 22 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: we can mix them like some fall vibes and romance, 23 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: you know. And so I invited her over for pumpkin 24 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 3: carving and scary movies. Yeah, I thought it was I 25 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: thought it was a good idea. 26 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: What happened on the I mean. 27 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 3: It's uh, first, she looked so good by the way 28 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 3: she came over, like one of these oversized sweaters, like 29 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: the cozy kind but still make you look hot kind 30 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: of you know what I mean. She just looked, Yeah, 31 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: she's I really, I really did. She's awesome. So the 32 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 3: night it started out great. We had some whiskey, we 33 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: had some popcorn, and like before the first pumpkin even 34 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 3: made its appearance, things got kind of steamy on the couch, 35 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: Like it kind of just happened a little bit. But 36 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 3: since we worked together, we agree to like sort of 37 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: pump the brakes a little bit. You know. It was 38 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: like we kind of it was, it got going and 39 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: then it we kind of backed off, but we were 40 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 3: still having like a really fun, like a flirty night. 41 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: You know, we're still kind of like charged up from that. Anyway, 42 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: Then came the incidents, as I'd like to refer to it. 43 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: All Right, Yeah, so. 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: I was kind of like, you know, I was very 45 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 3: in a very like whiskey fueled creative mode, and I 46 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 3: ended up carving a lopsided grin into my pumpkin when 47 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 3: I was hiring the other it looked like flaws from 48 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 3: goonies and that was not what I was going for, 49 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 3: and I kind of lost it. I sort of had 50 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: to melt down over the pumpkins. And I think what. 51 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: Kind of melt was probably meltown talking. 52 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 5: I mean like I was just like I was, I 53 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 5: was kind of worked up. I was like, yeah, I said, 54 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 5: twenty minutes in the phase and like, I may or 55 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 5: may not have launched the pumpkin off the balcony. 56 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 3: Belted his mother, possibly. 57 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: In those situations before. 58 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: I worked. I worked so hard on the pump and 59 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 3: it came out terribly and I just kind of. 60 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 4: You know, sorry, what is she doing though, Like, while 61 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 4: you're freaking out over your pumpkin and tossing it off 62 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 4: of a balcony. 63 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: Meanwhile her pumpkin looks perfect, It's great. She's like really 64 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 3: good at this. Obviously she's better at this than I am. 65 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 3: And she's just kind of like snipped her drink quietly 66 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 3: and was like are you okay? You know, and then 67 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 3: she left soon after, like no, okay, it's not even 68 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: like just the beginning. Yeah, to the day, I was like, 69 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: oh man, like I just scared away. I got us 70 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: with a gourd. 71 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: All right, well, we'll see if that is the reason 72 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: that you're getting ghosted. We'll play a song come back, 73 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: and then call her and see if she'll tell us 74 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: why she's ghosting you and maybe get you a second date. 75 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: Okay, I got't really walk. 76 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll see if we can patch that up before 77 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: you All right, we'll get your first day follow up next. 78 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: Right in the middle of your first day fall up, 79 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: And if you're just joining us, Steven is on the 80 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: phone and he is getting ghosted by a woman named Yasmin. 81 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: So we're about to call her in a second and 82 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and 83 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: maybe get him a second date. But first, Stephen, why 84 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: don't you remind us about your date again? 85 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: Real quick? 86 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: Who I work with? My coworker invited her to come 87 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 3: over for like, you know, pumpkin carving and scary movies, 88 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 3: and everything seemed like it was going well until I 89 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: screwed up my pumpkin pretty bad and kind of ended 90 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 3: up throwing it over the box and yelling at it. 91 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: That is pretty It might have been too much for 92 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 2: you know, she might have been like, Wow, if this 93 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 2: guy reacts like that with a pumpkin, you know. 94 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: Might be a little high strung. All right, are you 95 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: ready for us to call her? 96 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it. 97 00:04:49,839 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 2: Okay, here, here we go. Hello, Hi, man, I speak 98 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: to Yasmin. Please, Hey, Yasmin. 99 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: How are you? This is a radio show. It's called 100 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: The Jewbil Show. Hi, Yasmen, I'm na. Hi, I'm Victoria 101 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: and my name is Jewbul. What's up? 102 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 3: Okay, what's going on? 103 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: Have you ever listened to the show before? 104 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 3: I have? I have caught it before. 105 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: Okay, cool. 106 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: Why are you calling me? 107 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: Well, we're calling you because we got an email about 108 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: you from somebody. 109 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: Okay, So I don't know how. 110 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: Much you've listened to the show, but we do a 111 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 2: segment that's called the first Date follow Up. 112 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: That's where if you. 113 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: Go out on a date with somebody and you would 114 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: up ghosting them, that person can email us to get 115 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting them. 116 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: So we got an email about you from somebody that 117 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: you're not talking to after you went out on a 118 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 2: date with them. 119 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, do you have any ideas here? 120 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: It might be? 121 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty sure, okay, Stephen. 122 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: Yes, it is your coworker, Stephen, and we talked to 123 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: him about your date. 124 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: He told us a little bit about it. 125 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: He said, it's been very awkward at working out because 126 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: you're not really talking to him, and he really liked you, 127 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: and he's wondering why he's getting ghosted. 128 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: Would you mind telling us? 129 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: Okay, this is kind of weird to explain. 130 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 6: There was a song in his laundry hamper like hanging 131 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 6: out like hello stage. 132 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: Like a female. 133 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: It's not. That's not what you think it was. Hold 134 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 3: on a minute. 135 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and that's Stephen. He's on the phone. Listen. 136 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: He wants to talk to you. 137 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: Oh my god, but you're here. Okay, this is we are. 138 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: That song is not what you think like that? Oh man, 139 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: I can't believe. Okay. 140 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 2: So it wasn't the pumpkin thing because Stephen told us 141 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 2: about how he like kind of like freaked out on 142 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 2: a pumpkin because he carved a bat and threw it 143 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: out to the balcony and started yelling at it. 144 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: You thought that was it, and I could have been it. 145 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: No, it's not. It is not. It was a song 146 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 3: like it wasn't. I mean it wasn't just a song. 147 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 6: It was neon pink and sparkling like it wanted to 148 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 6: introduce itself. 149 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 4: Wait, hold on, just so we can all have a 150 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 4: clear pictures even before you defend the song. 151 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: Where did you see this thong yasmine? 152 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 6: Well, I was going to the bathroom and it was 153 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 6: in a hamper like hanging like it was like over 154 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 6: the edge like you could see it. It was just 155 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 6: clear as day. 156 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: Oh all right, all right now, Stephen. 157 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is also going to sound strange, but 158 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: that was part of my Halloween costume. I was going 159 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 3: as a sexy lumberjack. That was the plan. And it 160 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: came in a costume kit. All right, a kit was 161 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: glitter Lingerie. Yeah, I liked. I was, so I was 162 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: gonna do is like pull the songs up, you know. 163 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 3: So it was kind of like knowing so you know, 164 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: my pants are down, like showing off the sexual thong. 165 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 3: That was kind of the idea. Yeah, yeah, right, listen, 166 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: they gave me a bunch of options. Don't costume shame you, Okay. 167 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 6: It was shining halfway out of the hamper like a trophy. 168 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 6: If I didn't know if it was bad or evidence. 169 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: Evidence of what like you could have just said something 170 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: and they're like, hey, what's with the think Sparkley felt 171 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: like you think I'd leave it out like a random 172 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 3: you know song trap Like I don't, it's not. The 173 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: reason was the himper. I I spent like thirty minutes 174 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 3: trying on the thong and the mirror and stuff, but 175 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: I just in the end, it just didn't look right 176 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: on me. I felt like it wasn't for me. 177 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: Season's fine. Do you believe him? 178 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 6: Yes? 179 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 3: I don't know what to believe. I mean, does he 180 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 3: have a girlfriend? 181 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 6: You have random girls come by. I don't know if 182 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 6: you thought it was going to look more appealing to 183 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 6: me you thought, I if I thought other women wanted you. 184 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 3: It's just kind of weird. It was really a costume. Yeah, 185 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: it was just like, why didn't you say anything like 186 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 3: we were having a good time. I mean, besides the 187 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 3: pumpkin thing, but we're having a good time. You should 188 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 3: need to say something about the thought. Yeah, I just 189 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: I already felt weird. Okay. 190 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 6: I mean we worked together, and the second I saw 191 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 6: that thing hanging out of your hamper, I was like, Nope, 192 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 6: this is the universe telling me to back off. Just 193 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 6: didn't want drama at work or to start asking questions 194 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 6: that would make things, you know, messy. 195 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 3: Look, I promise you it was I don't have a girlfriend, 196 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 3: I don't have visitors other than like door dash or whatever. 197 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: Like the Tholl thing. It wasn't. It wasn't like I 198 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: was trying to like show off or show you something 199 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 3: like it was just something for a dumb Holly, And like, 200 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 3: I don't want things to be awkward to work. But 201 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 3: I also really like you, like we have there's a reason, 202 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: you know you came over in the first place. We 203 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 3: like each other. We've had a good time at work. 204 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: We were having a good time that night. Like, don't 205 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: I don't want this silly, stupid, little costume malfunction to 206 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: ruin any of that. 207 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: Well, yes, then would you like to go on another 208 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 2: date with Steven? We'll pay for it. 209 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, this is so insane. But I don't. 210 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 6: I mean, seriously, I I am just you're really something. 211 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 6: I don't know what to think. 212 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: Should you try it again and find out it's not 213 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: a bad thing? 214 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 3: Listen, I'm it's just I swear to the costume, like 215 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 3: go the laundry hamper. I can even show you the package. 216 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: Like I I'll dig through my trash and find the 217 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: package that it came in for the costume, and like 218 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 3: I'll let you, you know, help me figure out what 219 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 3: you know, underwear. It looks good with the costume thing. 220 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean if that's not incentive to go on 221 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: another date, I don't know what it is. 222 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 3: Well, you know what, Let's do it friends. That's it. 223 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: Let's start just hanging out. 224 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 6: No whiskey, no pumpkins, no war drum alsumptions, and let's 225 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 6: do that. 226 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 3: Okay, thank you fair, I'm terrible at just being friends. 227 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 6: Okay, then start practicing because we're going slow. 228 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: This is great. I'm so excited. This is the happiest 229 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 3: I've ever been to get friend zoned. Jub first Fall